WEBVTT - Part Three: The Fall of Alex Jones

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<v Speaker 1>M hey, everybody, welcome to Behind the Bastards. I'm Robert Evans,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the show where we tell you everything

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know about the very worst people in all

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<v Speaker 1>of history. I'm gonna take a quick bite from a

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<v Speaker 1>delightful derrito, and I'm going to introduce our guests for

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<v Speaker 1>the day. M hmm. Do you hear the sound of

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<v Speaker 1>it biting back? It feels so good to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Benjamin No co hosts of ridiculous history

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff they don't want you to know. Also a

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<v Speaker 1>little punchy right now because here we're on the East

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<v Speaker 1>coast and so it's eight o'clock right now, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>been here since about eight am, and uh so if

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<v Speaker 1>but it's fine, I just I'm like writing it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a great time. Also, we can see each

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<v Speaker 1>other on video, so every time that Robert eats a derrito,

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<v Speaker 1>we we noticed the pause, we get the whole gravitas

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<v Speaker 1>of the performance, you know, and take a shot of whiskey.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm personally very excited that we, you know, want

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome all the listeners, uh to this episode that

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<v Speaker 1>that we've teased for a little bit, because that last

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<v Speaker 1>episode had some really heavy, emotionally powerful and uh, despair

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<v Speaker 1>worthy stuff, and I think we're finally setting ourselves up

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<v Speaker 1>for some catharsis right, Robert, Yes, we are so. Just

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<v Speaker 1>in case you're tuning in for the part three for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason and haven't watched the first two, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Alex Jones. In part one, we talked about his

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<v Speaker 1>rise and how he's sort of invented a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the field that we're all currently employed in and figured

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<v Speaker 1>out how to market stuff using the Internet and podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>in the radio and really revolutionary ways. In part two,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about how he built an empire selling supplements,

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<v Speaker 1>some of which contained six times the recommended daily dose

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<v Speaker 1>of lead, and how his empire was heavily dependent on

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<v Speaker 1>convincing people that the government was attacking them and that

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<v Speaker 1>they were under threatened about to be destroyed, and that

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<v Speaker 1>this sparked a number of mass shootings, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>was a factor potentially in a number of mass shootings,

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<v Speaker 1>because a whole lot of his fans have committed mass shootings.

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<v Speaker 1>We ended by talking about the Sandy Hook conspiracy theory,

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<v Speaker 1>which Alex Jones was one of the origin points for,

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<v Speaker 1>and which resulted in a massive lawsuit that is still ongoing.

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<v Speaker 1>So as as you talked about today, is the schadenfreude

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<v Speaker 1>episode of of Alex Jones, the Fall of the House

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<v Speaker 1>of Jones, where we talk about sort of the collapse

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<v Speaker 1>or what appears to be the collapse of this empire

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<v Speaker 1>that he has built. But before we get into all

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<v Speaker 1>of the lawsuits, I'm going to go back in time

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit to the election. It is possible that

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones did not want Donald Trump to win the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and sixteen election. Uh you will remember back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and twelve, there was some suspicion by

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<v Speaker 1>people close to Alex that he actually voted for Barack

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<v Speaker 1>Obama because he was afraid that he would make less

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<v Speaker 1>money with a Republican in the White House. And when

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<v Speaker 1>on election night it started to look like Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>going to win, one staffer who was with Jones on

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<v Speaker 1>that night reported later, quote, he looked depressed. You could

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<v Speaker 1>tell when he found out that Trump was going to win.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see his mood change. This employee noted that quote,

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<v Speaker 1>his business is based on a fear of the left

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<v Speaker 1>taking over a conservative way of life. He has to

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<v Speaker 1>have that power of fear, that idea that they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take your guns. Trump winning put it all in jeopardy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how true that is. I suspect the

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<v Speaker 1>employee who said that may have been Ashley Lynn Beckford,

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<v Speaker 1>who filed an e O C claim against Alex this

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<v Speaker 1>year that we'll be talking about in a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe not. We don't know if that quote is true.

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<v Speaker 1>We do know that, on paper, at least late two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand sixteen was the apex of Alex Jones's influence. He

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<v Speaker 1>claims to have had eighteen million viewers watching the returns

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<v Speaker 1>come in live on election Night. Now. A few weeks later,

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<v Speaker 1>in mid December, Alex filmed one of the most incredible

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<v Speaker 1>videos I've ever seen in my entire life. I thoroughly

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<v Speaker 1>suggest you listeners find this video on our website because

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<v Speaker 1>it shows Alex Jones looking like an unhinged, goddamn maniac,

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<v Speaker 1>and more so than he has ever looked before. In

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<v Speaker 1>this video that we're about to play the audio from,

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<v Speaker 1>he is shirtless wandering our round the woods near his

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<v Speaker 1>studio in the dead of winter. One of his cameraman says,

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<v Speaker 1>it's twenty five degrees outside Jones is an asset or something.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like it. Man, I think he looks like

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<v Speaker 1>he's about to change into a wolf. He's like mid metamorphoustamorphouses.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine Alex Jones about to burst into werewolf dum and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have a good idea of how he looks in this. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>In the part of the video right before I play this,

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<v Speaker 1>Jones claims that the media would freak out if they

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<v Speaker 1>knew how connected he was to the New Halls of

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<v Speaker 1>Power and the President Trump. And now we're gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>a good chunk of this video for y'all the experience.

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<v Speaker 1>This feels fantastic. This is what it is to be alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Her answers, run, run. It's a lot of colder than this,

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<v Speaker 1>taking animals hall on them back to the y. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it's. I'm not here bathing in the night forest,

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<v Speaker 1>bathing as it's all about. I don't need. He's on

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<v Speaker 1>heavy drugs. He did a couple times in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is harding an anxiety attack. He might

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<v Speaker 1>be on that. This this is what it is to

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<v Speaker 1>take on the global It's to have Hillary attack you

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<v Speaker 1>and attack you when the communist Chinese attack you and

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<v Speaker 1>call for your censorship. Dart the dark heart right there,

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<v Speaker 1>It is right there. I do have greight hair, only

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<v Speaker 1>my heart. But the point is is that this is

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<v Speaker 1>what it's all about. This is what it's like when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't sit in front of video games all day

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<v Speaker 1>and act like you're intellectual and act like you're tough.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not criticizing you you playing video games. The

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<v Speaker 1>point is it's designed and it's to humanize you in

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<v Speaker 1>every single way. And it feels so good to break

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<v Speaker 1>free from the matrix. It feels so good to be alive.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels so good to be involved, and it feels

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<v Speaker 1>so good to just feel my humanity rising as we

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<v Speaker 1>resist the globlest Him is the spirit of humanity re

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<v Speaker 1>enters the earth and the enemy. Just the looks on

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<v Speaker 1>both of your faces right now are priceless. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I wish this was a video podcast or whatever. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, he keeps it is just that is the

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<v Speaker 1>most bonkers thing I've ever seen in my life. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt he He's like on Hiawaska or some ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like that. I don't know what is going

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<v Speaker 1>on with him. Forest bathing forest bathing, Yes, he continues.

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<v Speaker 1>The video goes on for quite a while and he

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<v Speaker 1>continues to wander around in the woods, followed by a

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<v Speaker 1>giggling camera crew. H Jones suggests staying outside for hours.

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<v Speaker 1>He repeatedly says how good he feels in the cold.

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<v Speaker 1>He says at one point, quote people jump into buckets

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<v Speaker 1>of ice. That's what's cold, which is not an untrue statement.

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<v Speaker 1>That is cold. Uh. He tells an elaborate story about

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<v Speaker 1>going hunting with his dad, all in the same manic tone.

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<v Speaker 1>He suggests marching down to Barton Creek and then he says,

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird your body doesn't get cold if you wear gloves.

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<v Speaker 1>What he's wearing gloves and nothing else on his chest

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<v Speaker 1>in that video. And apparently we have a lot Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>where our podcasts are based, beautiful city. Um, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of very interesting people struggling with drug addiction.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's totally sounds like crackhead logic, Like I could

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<v Speaker 1>see somebody assuring us that it's okay, they're not cold,

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<v Speaker 1>or they can't get wet or something because they have gloves.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that. He does definitely seem like he could

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<v Speaker 1>be on crack. If you were to tell me this

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<v Speaker 1>is a video of Alex Jones having just smoked a

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<v Speaker 1>big rock of crack, I would say, yeah, that's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna play one more clip from that video. So

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<v Speaker 1>right before this next clip, he starts talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going bald, and then he throws in an ad offering

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<v Speaker 1>off of coloeal silver. Because even wandering around on drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>shirtless in the woods, Alex Jones knows how to plug

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<v Speaker 1>his fucking products. All Right, calm, these are really badass stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>people asked. I mean, I turned into a blob. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not in great shape now, but I lost it almost

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<v Speaker 1>seventy pounds sixty a lot of muscle. Uh. And it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't taken any brain forces. I just didn't need it.

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<v Speaker 1>Had had coffee uh today, and I'm just hired to

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<v Speaker 1>cock with what's happened in the world. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>battling the globless, we're affecting world change. As a man,

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<v Speaker 1>my body just goes, this is great, here's more energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job. I almost want to play the whole video,

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<v Speaker 1>but that would be too much for the people listening.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a remarkable thing. You should watch this video

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<v Speaker 1>of Alex Jones, shirtless, wandering in the woods and screaming,

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<v Speaker 1>going like the gamnet of human emotions here. He deserves

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<v Speaker 1>an Emmy for that video. I don't know what emmy,

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<v Speaker 1>but just someone should give him one. This is right

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<v Speaker 1>after the election. He certainly doesn't seem bummed about Trump

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<v Speaker 1>winning in this video, so who knows what his actual

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<v Speaker 1>feelings were. There's obviously been a lot of debate recently

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<v Speaker 1>and over the last couple of years about how much

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<v Speaker 1>influence Alex Jones now has in the White House. UH

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousands seventeen, BuzzFeed made a good case for

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<v Speaker 1>how his ideas at least regularly spread to the president.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote in early March, in response to claims that the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration was potentially colluding with Russia, and info Wars

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<v Speaker 1>editor tweeted an old photo of New York Senator Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Schumer looking chummy with Vladimir Putin. Twelve hours later, the

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<v Speaker 1>image was splashed atop the Drudge Report, and less than

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hours after that, Trump's presidential account had tweeted it.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the first time something like this had happened.

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<v Speaker 1>In November two sixteen, info Wars published a story citing

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<v Speaker 1>an unverified claim from a former Texas Health and Human

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<v Speaker 1>Services Commission deputy commissioner that three million non citizens had

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<v Speaker 1>voted illegally. The info war story was leaked by the

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<v Speaker 1>Drudge Report, and thirteen days later wound up the subject

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<v Speaker 1>of a tweet from Trump's account. As Jones put it

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<v Speaker 1>last summer to the journalist John Ronson, quote, I put

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<v Speaker 1>out a video a message to Trump, and then two

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<v Speaker 1>days later he lays out the case. It's like sending

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<v Speaker 1>up the bat signal. So Alex Jones is able to

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<v Speaker 1>get information to Donald Trump, but it's possible and very

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<v Speaker 1>likely in fact, that the two have not had communicated

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<v Speaker 1>directly since that time Trump called him right after the election.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it doesn't look like the direct line to

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump that Alex was hoping for in that shirtless

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<v Speaker 1>video ever, came to pass. In March of two seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>in an interview on the Travis County Courthouse steps, Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Jones total reporter quote, we don't speak much since he

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<v Speaker 1>became president. It's unclear if Jones is happy with the

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<v Speaker 1>influence he has or angry because he doesn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>communicate directly and formally to the President. I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>In any case, the first hundred days of the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration were actually not a good time for Alex Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>For one thing, that dude held up the Comet Ping

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<v Speaker 1>Pong pizzeria with an a R fifteen, believing child sex

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<v Speaker 1>slaves were hidden in its basement. Jones wound up having

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<v Speaker 1>to apologize for helping to spread the theory in order

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid liability for his actions. Then he still wound

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<v Speaker 1>up in a court fighting a vicious custody battle. Two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand seventeen was the spark for a so far endless

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<v Speaker 1>series of lawsuits from Mr Jones. Now during these episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>I've repeatedly referenced to two thousand eleven Rolling Stone article

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<v Speaker 1>Meet Alex Jones. I told you that while it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>took the stance that Jones was a crank, it presented

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty fond picture of the guy quotes like this.

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<v Speaker 1>People think I'm depressive and angry, but it's the opposite,

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<v Speaker 1>Jones tells me over Margarita's at his favorite Mexican joint.

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<v Speaker 1>My life is a love letter to humanity, with the

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<v Speaker 1>globalist do as a hate letter a curse. The article

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<v Speaker 1>describes Jones as a doting father, a devoted husband, and

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not a racist. Quote. Unlike many of his conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>minded predecessors, Henry Ford, the Ku Klux Klan, the Militia movement,

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<v Speaker 1>Jones has no tolerance for racism or anti Semitism. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no globalist command center, and I never make it about

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<v Speaker 1>certain groups, says Jones, whose wife is of Jewish descent

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<v Speaker 1>and whose adopted sister, Marley is Asian American. So Jones

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<v Speaker 1>denies being racist. Uh, and Rolling Stone was willing to

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<v Speaker 1>give him credit on that in two thousand eleven. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>now in two thousand eighteen, we have some evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>he may in fact be a little bit racist. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're going to get into right now. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>We're about to read some excerpts from a complaint made

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<v Speaker 1>by Ashley Lynn Beckford, a black former employee of Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Jones and Info Wars. She made this complaint to the

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<v Speaker 1>Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in two thousand eighteen. The complaint

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<v Speaker 1>does not portray a man with no tolerance for racism. Ashley,

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<v Speaker 1>who I believe was the third ever black employee at

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<v Speaker 1>Info Wars, filed this in February of two eighteen. You

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<v Speaker 1>can find a link to the whole report on our site,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna read some quotes to it from it.

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<v Speaker 1>To my knowledge, I was the only African amer Arcan

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<v Speaker 1>woman ever to work at Free Speech Systems LLC. I

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<v Speaker 1>was at the forefront of info wars news reports as

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<v Speaker 1>a broadcast news analyst during the Trump election season and

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<v Speaker 1>transition period. Both African American men ever to work for

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<v Speaker 1>the production team were fired within the same month July

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand seventeen. I believe that certain actions, such as

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<v Speaker 1>underpaying me, were taken against me because I am a

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<v Speaker 1>black individual. I was repeatedly mocked for my skin tone,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was denied promotions to match the salary of

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<v Speaker 1>other coworkers who did less work in a similar job.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no trouble believing this story, although I am

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<v Speaker 1>certain that Alex Jones and Info Wars deny it. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the report of an employee with the grievance.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not an objective reporter, but she paints a fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>picture of working at info Wars. Here's how she describes

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<v Speaker 1>the hostile work environment. I was intimidated by the constant

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<v Speaker 1>open carry and display of guns by co workers in

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<v Speaker 1>the workplace. My supervisors and pure colleagues often brandished guns

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<v Speaker 1>to scare away crazed fans, which made me feel uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>and unsafe at work every day. So apparently people regularly

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<v Speaker 1>show up to info Wars and have to be waved

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<v Speaker 1>off by gun wielding Info Wars employees. That's insane. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it really paints a vivid picture of the working environment there.

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<v Speaker 1>She claims that she and other employees were ordered to

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<v Speaker 1>work longer weekday and weekend hours without pay. She claims

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<v Speaker 1>they were repeatedly called motherfucker's by Alex's cousin Buckley Hammond.

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<v Speaker 1>She says that she was once called a coon. She

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<v Speaker 1>recalls having to stop a colleague from calling black people

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<v Speaker 1>colored on the air, and she recalls a colleague showing

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<v Speaker 1>her a pair of swastika covered shoes that he received

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<v Speaker 1>as a gift from a fan. So it certainly seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of racism going on in the Info

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<v Speaker 1>Wars office. Jesus Christ, and I guess the m O then,

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<v Speaker 1>would at that point be for Alex Jones to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't tolerate that, and I'm not aware of it, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he would deny any sort of awareness of of anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And he does deny any sort of awareness

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<v Speaker 1>of that, but the complaint is still there. So Ashley

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<v Speaker 1>tells the story of an ugly interaction she had when

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<v Speaker 1>she was ordered to question people outside of a pro

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary rally in two thousand sixteen. My cameraman, Josh Owens,

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<v Speaker 1>who had worked in full Wars for years compared to

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<v Speaker 1>my less than three month tenure, consistently pressured me to

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<v Speaker 1>engage with the Hillary Clinton supporters as a black Trump promoter.

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<v Speaker 1>I was subsequently subject to multiple people hurling insults and

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<v Speaker 1>racial slurs at me, including Uncle Tom by one of

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<v Speaker 1>the gay, white male attendees. Another Clinton supporter, a white

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<v Speaker 1>lesbian woman, told me that she knew more about black

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<v Speaker 1>issues than I did because she is married to a

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<v Speaker 1>black woman who was also present. I went back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Info Wars office in tears, incredulous at how I

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<v Speaker 1>was being racially attacked because of my support for a

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<v Speaker 1>political candidate, and Alex Jones, taking advantage of my fragility

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, forced me to share what had happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me on the air for YouTube and other social

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<v Speaker 1>media That same night feigning his own tears of empathy. So, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty gross. I will say there's some reasons to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit suspicious of this lady, Like she

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<v Speaker 1>claims that this video she feels like damaged her ability

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<v Speaker 1>to be hired as a journalist in the future. And

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, lady, working for info worce damaged your

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<v Speaker 1>ability to be hired as a journalist in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not the thing you want on your resume

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<v Speaker 1>if you're shooting for a job with The New York Times. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't have any trouble believing that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>hostile work environment. Ashley goes on to claim that during

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<v Speaker 1>this obviously traumatic and pretty fucked up time, Alex Jones

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<v Speaker 1>copped to feel quote after the broadcast, I was with

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones, Rob do and several other members in Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Dow's office. I was talking about how I didn't agree

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<v Speaker 1>with the white woman who had said that she knows

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<v Speaker 1>about the black community better than I do because she

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<v Speaker 1>has a black wife. Alex Jones was still pretending to

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<v Speaker 1>feel sympathy for my plight as a black female Trump supporter,

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<v Speaker 1>and he put his arm around my shoulder to initiate

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<v Speaker 1>a side hug after he pulled me to his side,

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of removing his arm from my shoulder, he allowed

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<v Speaker 1>his arm to slide down my back and he grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>my butt with his right hand. Simultaneously, he was commenting

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<v Speaker 1>to those in the room who wouldn't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a black wife to response to my comment. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed and nervous, but I knew that he had specific

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<v Speaker 1>He touched my behind at that moment as a sly

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<v Speaker 1>come on that other people may not notice. It was

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<v Speaker 1>extremely ironic because it was the lesbian, white woman with

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<v Speaker 1>the black wife who had mentioned earlier that night on

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<v Speaker 1>camera how Alex Jones is a womanizer who loves gray goose.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know then that later on that same night,

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<v Speaker 1>he would be drunk enough to feel confident about fondling

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<v Speaker 1>his female staffers parentheses. Most of the staff was drinking

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol that night in the office, as was the usual

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<v Speaker 1>on late nights. Alex Jones was in possession of his

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<v Speaker 1>trademark mugs and paper cups, which the staffer is often

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<v Speaker 1>alleged contained alcohol infused beverages. So Alex Jones, well, what Fuckory,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy? Yeah, well so So the the idea then,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the guys I guess, trying to act as

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<v Speaker 1>though he is a champion, and maybe it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to diffuse the situation with the wife joke.

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<v Speaker 1>But surely there's some kind of HR thing there or No.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of trouble believing that info Wars

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<v Speaker 1>has a particularly dedicated HR team. Um, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's not one of the things they do really well.

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<v Speaker 1>My read on that is that he was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>making that joke while he was groping her, almost as

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<v Speaker 1>like a distraction. But I don't I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. That seems to be what she's saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated by the picture. This also paints at the

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<v Speaker 1>office because now we know everyone is always armed at

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<v Speaker 1>info Wars. People regularly wave guns around and whenever they

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<v Speaker 1>work late nights, which is often, they're drunk. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a compound near the woods in Austin filled with drunken,

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<v Speaker 1>armed people ranting about conspiracies and I can't believe I

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<v Speaker 1>hate them, And it sounds like a terrible place because drunken,

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<v Speaker 1>heavily armed commune in the Woods. Sounds like it could

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of fun if it wasn't Alex Chimes.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like there's also some potential for these people

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<v Speaker 1>waving their dicks around, so, oh my god, that has

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<v Speaker 1>to be right. Yeah, yeah, oh no, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>rife for misogyny and and ask grabbery, even just waving

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<v Speaker 1>their dicks around at each other literally just for fun. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have trouble imagining someone working for Alex for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time and not seeing his dick like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, we don't see below the belt for

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<v Speaker 1>most of these shirtless VIDs. I conjecture that it's possible

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<v Speaker 1>that he's full nude, especially in that Woods video. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's anything in that Woods video. That guy hates clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>just unless they're gloves. Wandering around naked except for a

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<v Speaker 1>pair of gloves in the winter. Ah. That does a

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<v Speaker 1>nice job of scrubbing the sexual harassment complaint out of

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<v Speaker 1>my memory. Yeah, so what happens to her, Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into that right now. It seems to be an

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate time to sell some products and services, So I

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<v Speaker 1>got to move that product. Gotta move the products and

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<v Speaker 1>those services, So we will talk more about Ashley's complaint

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<v Speaker 1>and then the litany of other lawsuits that Alex is

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with right now. But first consumerism. We are back.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just talking about some potential names for Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Jones products that we we think might might sell really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we know he does DNA force and iodine shield. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Vitamin B twelve assault and battery that's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>And trespass yeah, yeah, potassium genocide that's the mic drop. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we just discovered my new favorite improv game

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<v Speaker 1>as like a warm up. So we were just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Ashley Lynn Beckford's pretty detailed complaint about sexual harassment

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<v Speaker 1>and rampant racism at the infoler's office. She also alleges

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<v Speaker 1>that the term quote black bitch was repeatedly used both

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<v Speaker 1>by info Wars writers and articles, and if you google

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<v Speaker 1>info Wars and those words, you will find a number

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<v Speaker 1>of articles where that term comes up, usually referring to

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<v Speaker 1>Black Lives Matter activists, but she says that it was

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<v Speaker 1>also used repeatedly in the office and used around her,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically people trying to get a rise out of her

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. Just to clarify, I'm sorry to interrupt so

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<v Speaker 1>this term was used by actual paid writers and staff,

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<v Speaker 1>not by just people dropping not on the forum. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a number of paid writers and staff. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>number of articles. She lists them in the complaint where

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<v Speaker 1>the term fat black bitch was used in info Wars articles.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy smokes. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad. She reported her

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<v Speaker 1>coworkers for using this term in the office, but nothing

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<v Speaker 1>was done. She says that guns were brandished on a

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<v Speaker 1>daily basis. When she complained, her supervisor told her it

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<v Speaker 1>was part of the company culture and advised her to

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<v Speaker 1>quote keep her head down, which is good advice when

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of drunken men are waving guns around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>keep read. Do maybe buy some of that Alex Jones

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<v Speaker 1>body armor. She he was told not to complain about

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<v Speaker 1>things that made her uncomfortable, and Alex Jones, of course

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<v Speaker 1>continued to hit on her. Here's another story of that quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones came to my desk on one occasion to

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<v Speaker 1>find out what I like to do for fun outside

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<v Speaker 1>of work. It's my opinion that it was his intention

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<v Speaker 1>to see if he could groom me for sexual exploitation,

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<v Speaker 1>because he also mentioned that I quote had a good

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<v Speaker 1>body that looked like I worked out a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>was concerned that these unwanted sexual advances would eventually result

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<v Speaker 1>in a request for sexual favors in exchange for promotions

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<v Speaker 1>In the office, it was rumored that he may have

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<v Speaker 1>had inappropriate relationships with other female production staff employees. In addition,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones himself has alluded to the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>loves to grab women's backsides and videos that he has

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<v Speaker 1>made and uploaded to YouTube. Alex often spent time shirtless

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<v Speaker 1>and endlessly leering with or without a shirt at female

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<v Speaker 1>guests and employees, while creating a disgusting, hostile environment that

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<v Speaker 1>openly encourages his staff to stare at and make inappropriate

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<v Speaker 1>comments towards women. I definitely believe that he spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time shirtless in the office. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>trouble whatsoever believing that Alex Jaron's was regularly shirtless, shirtless

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<v Speaker 1>and leering. The Alex Jones story shirtless and leering and

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<v Speaker 1>probably carrying a gun. Alex Jones the complaint is a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty remarkable document. Again, I can't claim to know how

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<v Speaker 1>accurate it all is, but she does claim on this

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<v Speaker 1>official legal document that she has audio tapes of much

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<v Speaker 1>of the harassment. Former info Wars video editor Rob Jacobson,

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<v Speaker 1>who is Jewish and that's will be relevant in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>claims that he was discriminated against during his thirteen years

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<v Speaker 1>working with Alex Jones. He says he was called the

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<v Speaker 1>studios quote resident jew quote, the Jewish individual, and Jacobson,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't know why that's an anti Jewish thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, you get the picture. A lot of anti

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<v Speaker 1>Semitism at the Info Wars office. Rob says this about

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones, quote my employer also inserted my face onto

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<v Speaker 1>a photo of a Hasidic Jewish man and circulated that

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<v Speaker 1>picture around the office. So holy ship. The idea that

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<v Speaker 1>he's coding the term globalists and uses it to mean

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish people seems pretty plausible when he really really does.

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<v Speaker 1>The least surprising thing in the world would be that

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones believes in a Jewish conspiracy. Yeah, that would

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<v Speaker 1>not shock me at all, although I would actually be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit shocked. I go back and forth on

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<v Speaker 1>this because part of me thinks he has never at

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<v Speaker 1>least never that I've come up with. I've never run

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<v Speaker 1>into him in a video making a very clear direct

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<v Speaker 1>sort of reference to anti Semitism or a Jewish conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of me note wonders, does Alex Jones have

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<v Speaker 1>the discipline if he really believes in this conspiracy two

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<v Speaker 1>hide it that much? Maybe he like is anti Semitic

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<v Speaker 1>enough to find some jokes about it funny, but really

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't believe in a conspiracy, because if he did, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it might have leaked out more. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I go back and forth and saying I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's disciplined enough to keep it under wraps. He would just, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just poop out of his mouth and come

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<v Speaker 1>out with some fucking like anti Semitic garbage. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that if Alex Jones has believed this whole time in

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<v Speaker 1>a giant Jewish global conspiracy, the most impressive thing about

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<v Speaker 1>him is that he's been so disciplined enough to never

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<v Speaker 1>be direct about it that that would almost be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of impressive to me. Does he use uh the other

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<v Speaker 1>dog whistle words like does he say Zionists and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I haven't run into that he's more pro

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<v Speaker 1>Israel now that Trump's because he's he's become a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more conservative, especially since Trump got into the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to be very critical of Israel, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was always critical of Israeli foreign policy. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you don't have to be anti Semitic to have

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<v Speaker 1>criticisms of Israel Um. And when I've listened to those videos,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not run into anything where it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>he's an anti Semitic crank um. Other than that, it

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<v Speaker 1>certainly seems like you could replace globalists with Jewish people

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>in a rant and you would have a Nazi rand.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if that's Alex's intent or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I really go back and forth on this, because if

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<v Speaker 1>it is, he's hiding it. Well. Yeah, So here's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that could be possible. If the profile that we

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<v Speaker 1>are painting of this dude is accurate to a high

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<v Speaker 1>enough degree, then it's completely possible that he would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to have a disciplined approach due to the bottom line,

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<v Speaker 1>Because what we're really asking about here is the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of belief. How much does he believe his own bullshit?

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<v Speaker 1>And it may well be that he just performs the

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<v Speaker 1>belief when he feels like it will help him in

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 1>a situation. So maybe behind closed doors with employees, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not quite straight out saying Jews, but he says you

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<v Speaker 1>know them and like nods a little bit so you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear the italics when he speaks. He also does

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious photoshop jobs, you know, with Jewish employees. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's no question I have no I'm believing that whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I think to your point, he probably does

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<v Speaker 1>a better job of like holding that character when it

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>suits him. But I do feel like in this part

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<v Speaker 1>of the story, we're starting to see that unravel a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and I think that's interesting and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to I want to see more of that. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is definitely the story of post Alex Jones, is

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<v Speaker 1>him unraveling and the things that he's clearly kept in

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<v Speaker 1>check and hidden to a degree over the years starting

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<v Speaker 1>to fall apart. So, yeah, this is actually the point

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<v Speaker 1>where we get to the piece to resistance of this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones's custody hearing. Oh here would go wasting for

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<v Speaker 1>this one, right. Yeah, And now, I never thought I

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<v Speaker 1>would cover a custody hearing in in one of my episodes.

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit even was hesitant to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff just because everybody has a private life custody

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.920
<v Speaker 1>hearings are always ugly, but after everything I read about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in this hearing, you really can't get the

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<v Speaker 1>whole story of Alex Jones without talking about this custody hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a critical moment in the study of jones oology.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to talk about this custody be hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand seven, Kelly Rebecca Nichols married Alex Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>So they got together when he was starting to be prominent,

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>but before he was super rich. You know, that's like

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the year after he started the Info Wars store, but

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 1>before he was starting in full War's life, which is

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 1>when he really started to make money. So they split

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<v Speaker 1>up in two thousand thirteen and divorced in two thousand fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've been fighting over custody of their three children

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<v Speaker 1>ever since. They had a big courtroom hearing in April

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<v Speaker 1>of last year. Charlie Warzle of BuzzFeed was there. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>how he opened his article about the fateful day that

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 1>that started. Quote. Alex Jones's cross examination in his ten

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<v Speaker 1>day custody trial began today with an unusual question. You

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had any chili this morning? Have you, Mr Jones,

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Is that a serious question? Jones shot back, Now, that

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<v Speaker 1>may seem weird to you, but that was a reference

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<v Speaker 1>to something that had happened during Alex's deposition. In March

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand eighteen, Alex Jones, unofficial adviser to the President,

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>self declared revolutionary, millionaire and forty three year old man,

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<v Speaker 1>claimed that he couldn't remember the names of his children's

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<v Speaker 1>teachers because he's eaten an enormous bowl of chili the

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<v Speaker 1>night before. That was the argument of courtroom for why

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't remember the teachers of his children is he

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<v Speaker 1>he was gassy? You know it? Did that does things

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<v Speaker 1>to your Brainia. He was asked by the judge in

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<v Speaker 1>a court of law if chili impacted his memory, and

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones replied, big old bowl of chili, Sure does. Yeah,

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>which when I read the transcript, I can hear it

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<v Speaker 1>in his voice. Really SAPs your memories the globalists in

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<v Speaker 1>the chili It off comes the shirt. Yeah, well we're

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>about to talk about that. Yeah. Although I will say

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the craziest things is that after fifty or

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>six accumulative hours spent in Alex jones land, I don't

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>know that he's lying about chili impacting his memory. He

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>might be telling like that may just be the way

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones works, as he ate so much chili and

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.239
<v Speaker 1>he forgot the names of his children's teachers, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, fucking like elk chili here, you know

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<v Speaker 1>something super gamy. I think it if it was elk chili,

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>it was an elk that he wrestled to the ground

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>while hunting, naked in the woods and ripped its heart

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>out and ate it like racky style. I mean, if

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I were wandering around in the woods of central Texas

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and I saw a naked Alex Jones run past me,

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>chasing after a deer, I don't think I'd be surprised,

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and he'd be like, Okay, this is a piece of

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a puzzle, thank you. So it seems like over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of this custody hearing, Alex and his wife have

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<v Speaker 1>spent a combined at least four to five million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on legal fees, maybe more like ten million. His ex

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<v Speaker 1>wife also already gets something like five dollars a year

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>from him, So I don't believe that money is the

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<v Speaker 1>thing at states in this custody hearing. It really does

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<v Speaker 1>seem that his wife is legitimately worried for the kids

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>who Alex had primary custody of during the you know,

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the time when this custody hearing started. Um, he got

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<v Speaker 1>to pick where they lived full time, and she spent

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half million dollars to try to get

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<v Speaker 1>them out of his house, which I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>sign of real concern on her part. She argued that

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<v Speaker 1>Alex is an unstable monster trying to turn their children

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>against her and inculcate them into being the heirs to

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>his conspiracy empire. She claims also that Alex has been

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. Yeah, that's not a long walk.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really not that surprising. I did learn that fact

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<v Speaker 1>when I stumbled upon his wife's website. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to guess what his wife's website is? Oh my gosh,

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>is it a pun on info wars? It sure is, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>custody wars dot com. How is that not already taken?

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing genius. Yeah, um, so there are a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of articles on custody wars dot com. I try not

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<v Speaker 1>to use it as a major source for this episode,

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>just because she has a very clear bias being you know,

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>his ex wife finding him in a case. And I

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted to try to get as unbiased to sources as

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I could for the life of Alex Jones. But I

0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>had to look around it a little bit, and I

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>had to click on an icle titled why did Kelly

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Moore mary Alex Jones? Because my god, I wanted to know.

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting a wild and salacious rant when I

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>clicked on the article, and I was expecting her to

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<v Speaker 1>be essentially the female version of Alex Jones, just you know,

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>focused on hating Alex Jones rather than on hating the globalists.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>That's not what I found. Uh, it was a very

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>reasonable article. She calls him a narcissist in it, but

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>she also spends most of the article breaking down in

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<v Speaker 1>a very rational way what narcissistic personality disorder is and

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>how it's easy for someone to trap you without you

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>really realizing at first about it. Actually, she doesn't seem

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>crazy at all. Having read some of her website, I'm

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.719
<v Speaker 1>going to read a quote from that article. Sadly, Alex

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>has been professionally diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder and Alex,

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>like most narcissists, is good at pulling wool over people's eyes.

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Narcissists use a variety of verbal and emotional abuse in

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<v Speaker 1>their relationships, including gas lighting and manipulation. Their abuses constant,

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and it wears you down to the point that you

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<v Speaker 1>question things you think you know to be true and

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know which way is up. So it's like this,

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>this checks out because this is how he treats his

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>audience exactly. I was expecting, like creating a website custody

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<v Speaker 1>wars dot com. She was married Alex Jones. First I

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>was I was waiting for her to be a crazy person.

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.719
<v Speaker 1>She seems really reasonable. You can watch interviews with her

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that she's done for other journalists, and she's definitely media trained.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.239
<v Speaker 1>She's very media savvy. She clearly has memorized a lot

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>of different sort of speeches to go on because she

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<v Speaker 1>but but she seems genuinely concerned for him and for

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>their kids, and she definitely seems like the same person

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<v Speaker 1>in the relationship. I'll say, how long were they married?

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<v Speaker 1>Like seven years? They split up in two thousand and thirteen,

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>married in two thousand seven, but divorced in Yeah, so

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>he was he was still he was already batshitt Alex

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Jones by this point though, right was right around the

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>pivot point. You know, she got with him right before

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the Obama election, which is really sort of oh wow,

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>imagine learning that after you're married. Watching that transformation, I

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>just hear the Curb your Enthusiasm music playing, you know. Well,

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>but it was almost a little bit like the journey

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>we've had in this podcast, because you remember when I

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>played the first thing from him in the late nineties,

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you were like, he's he's fun. I kind of want

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to like see more of this guy. I want to, like,

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just I'm just worn down, dude. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you see me right now, I'm just like the

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<v Speaker 1>skin is hanging off my face right now. I'm so

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>beat down by this whole this guy. Yeah, I wanna

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>want to write a letter to him, a strongly worded letter. Well, yeah,

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>we're all I like that, we're all going on the

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Jones journey right now. Like we can empathize with

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>her a little bit because we started out at like,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones, this guy is fun. I'd like to have

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>him at a party to like, oh my god. Yeah, anyway,

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Kelly alleges that Alex Jones has been surveilling her since

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<v Speaker 1>the divorce, and ironically enough, leaving cameras on her property

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>in order to spy on her. She's found been documented

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>at least one of these cameras. Now, Alex has a

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>bodyguard who is a former Blackwater mercenary. Kelly alleges that

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Alex has had this mercenary essentially tracking her. This guy

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>shows up with Alex in court. He's always whenever Alex

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>is in public, there's this big bearded looking, fucking mercenary

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>looking guy like he's got those I don't know, if

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you've spent a lot of time around really scary fucking people.

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>He's got scary fucking person eyes. Um, he's got that.

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I've destroyed people looking his eyes. Ye Ye, he's a

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 1>scary looking guy. And uh, I don't have any trouble

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>believing that Alex has used him to intimidate his ex wife.

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.959
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't not a lot of a stretch, although again

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>this is all unconfirmed. Now, Alex claims that his ex

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>wife is unstable and emotionally unwell. H He has brought

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>some therapists into court who have described her that way. Uh,

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>and you know, maybe she maybe she is, maybe she's

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>got some stuff loose. I don't know the woman. She

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>alleges that he bribed those therapists and I can't know

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>what happen. And his ex wife says that there's a

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of corruption in the court system in Austin. I

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Um, it may just be that she's paranoid

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 1>after being married to Alex Jones for years and years,

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>which is entirely possible. And that's a specific genre of

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>gas lighting that narcissists use, where they will accuse people

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>of having the issues or behaviors that they themselves exhibit, right, Yeah,

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>to the point where it can make that person feel

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 1>is if they do have those sort of problems, Which

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>is part of why people stay with narcissistic abusers, is

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 1>that they can convince you that like you're the bad

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>one and that you're the one doing fucked up stuff

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>not only that, and only I can help you. Yeah,

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's again, it's the same thing he does

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>to his followers. It's bonkers to me the parallels here,

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>only not at all. It makes absolute sense. Yeah he

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>is well, no, he's not even consistent, but he's consistent

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in the tactics he uses, for sure. So Alex bought

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the best Texas lawyers that Texas money can buy. One

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.959
<v Speaker 1>of his attorneys for this custody battle was a former

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Texas State Supreme Court justice. Another came from an old

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Texas law family, so old that there are streets in

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Austin around the courthouse named after this guy's family. So

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>he spent the big money on this ship. But even

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 1>these men, these top dollar lawyers, were not able to

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>restrain Alex Jones. Charlie Warzl from BuzzFeed, who watched the

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>whole ship show, makes it sound like a pretty fun

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>custody hearing quote. His frustration with the opposing legal team

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>was theatrical and palpable. When irritated, which was often, he'd

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>narrow his eyes into a piercing squint and sometimes point menacingly.

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Eventually he was ordered to switch chairs to be out

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>of the attorney's eyeline. The judge admonished him at least

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>a dozen times and out of the courtroom. Jones ignored

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>a court gag order posting YouTube videos about the media's

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 1>coverage of the case, even when he's spending millions of

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>dollars on lawyers, he can't turn it off. It's remarkable.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>So when we come back, we're going to talk about

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 1>how shirtlessness played a role in the Alex Jones custody hearing,

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>because you better bet shirtlessness played a role in his

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 1>court battles. Because if there's one thing that we know

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 1>for sure about Alex Jones, it's that the only thing

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>he hates more than globalists is his own shirt. So

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:18.320
<v Speaker 1>all that and more after we sell you some products

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>and uh services, and we're back and we're talking about

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones and his epic court battle with his ex

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>wife Kelly. So yeah. At the start of the testimony,

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Jones's lawyers claimed that he was a performance artist and

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>compared him to John Stewart. This was because a major

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>chunk of his wife's case rested on the unhinged and

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>often threatening content of his videos. On the second day

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of the trial, Jones in the entire courtroom watched a

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 1>video of him wearing only his underwear selling male vitality supplements. Yeah,

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty special video. They also played a video

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>from two thousand sixteen with a title Alex Jones takes

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>off his clothes for the FBI and that's the title

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones gave the video. This video includes several minutes

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>of Alex Jones ranting about you and carbon taxes and

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Amazon end user license agreements. Then he talks about how

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.280
<v Speaker 1>your webcam is watching you, which sure maybe probably sometimes.

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Alex rants about biometrics and the increasing dehumanization of modernity

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and claims, quote, once they've got you cashless, they've got everything,

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and they're going to take your humanity down to the

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>bone and blow it away. Then ten minutes and forty

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:36.240
<v Speaker 1>seconds into this shirtless video Alex Jones made for the FBI,

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>he starts to strip and we're gonna play that clip here.

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna I'm just going to take my shirt off. Hey,

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you will notice I've lost even more way, but a

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>slow process and forwards life dot Com. We've got the

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>great DNA force back in stop. We've got the great

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>supermail about Cally back in stop. I'll tell you the

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>same amount of exercises I ever did, but taking the

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 1>great things that Mother Nature has created and concentrating on

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>much super mevitality has really helped me louse. As you

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>can see right here now Again, I was not this

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>tonight I have lost a lot of wight if you

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 1>compare this to past video. So while we're here with

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>government looking on our surf history, looking at what emails

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>we send, Google reading your emails, suicide, sat factories, murdering people, death,

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>forced abortion, baby parts being sold. Oh, but I'm so dehumanized.

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm in my underwear. Isn't it pathetic? I just have

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>no doubt that he's on stimulants, right, he has to be.

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's yeah, he's like you know, poppin Benny's

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>at the very least, is something good. Lord. I think

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>there's a logic to it where he's narcissistic enough to

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>be thinking, better take my shirt off because sex cells.

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, he might think people are attracted to it.

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>And I I I love that in this video that

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>he has made for the FBI, he's selling supplement stuff.

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>That's such commitment. I just think we're seeing a man

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>in full tail spin. He's still incorporating some of his

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>old tricks as he breaks down in the public eye.

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Like he's like he's so married to this idea of

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:25.919
<v Speaker 1>like cell cell cell, and like that's the only reason

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that any of the stuff exists, because he doesn't really

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>believe any of it. I don't know that he just

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>can't not do it. But yet he's having a breakdown

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.879
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and still manages to throw to the fucking

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 1>ad he needs help. You know, maybe it's like a

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>muscle memory at this point. You know, it's reflexive. And

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I really do wonder because I I've heard a lot

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>of allegations that he's an alcoholic. He will, you will

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>run into people around him. He definitely drinks, and sometimes

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.760
<v Speaker 1>because he's been drunk on his show and on videos

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>he's posted a number of times. So it's possible that

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>he's a problem drinker. It's possibly as another drug problem.

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>And if that's the case, I do wonder how much

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>of his degeneration is just the fact that he's been

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>fucking taking a shipload of meth or whatever. I don't

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>know what, But like you, you watch some of these

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>videos and it's like, if he's sober during this, which

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>he does claim to be sober in that shirtless wandering

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>around in the winter video, if he's sober, there's something

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 1>profound going on in him. I mean, if there was

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a video of me behaving this way on the internet,

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 1>like I would not want that out in the world.

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh good God, no, thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah.

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>So in the courtroom, because they played that video for

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the court, um, it was one of the few videos

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the judge allowed to be played. And I should note

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>that after the point at which we stopped, he continues

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>standing around in his underwear and ranting for five more minutes.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Newman, a lawyer for Kelly Jones, stated to the

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>court afterwards, he just takes his clothes off, and I'm

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna guess that was the way that he expressed

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that I only have it type, but I'm gonna guess

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>it's he just stay his clothes off. That's that's Alex Jones.

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>That's what he did. I just picture the people like

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>staying up late into the night agonizing about how to

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>justify this, or like going through various pieces of jurisprudence

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and then just saying, you know what, we're gonna have

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>to lose this battle if we want to win this war. So,

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>psychologist Alyssa Sherry, who was the case manager for the

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Jones divorce, confirmed in court that Alex Jones has been

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. So this is not an allegation, uh.

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>She says that he has sought help for it. She

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>also says that she has seen Alex remove his shirt

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>in front of his children during a therapy session. She

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>quote didn't remember the context in which he stripped, but

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>noted that it was quote a rare thing to happen

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 1>in a therapy session, which would I would say, So

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's reasonable thing to say. Maybe he's going

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>crazy because we keep asking him to wear clothes, like,

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's some sort of he's he's trying to let

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.439
<v Speaker 1>the sanity into his pores and that's why he keeps

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>stripping when the crazy hits hardest. Oh god, yeah, maybe maybe,

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 1>maybe so. Jones's ex wife's lawyers accused him of being

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>as crazy off camera as he is on camera. They

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 1>also accused him of trying to turn his children against

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>their mother and alleged that he quote intends to unmesh

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the children in his business. Jones in return, testified that

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 1>his fourteen year old son has quote done some great

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>reports for us. So we're gonna listen to one of

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>those reports that his child has done. It's titled Alex

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Jones's Son Challenges David Hogg to a gun debate. So

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>clearly Alex wanted to attack the Parkland kids, in particularly

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>David Hogg, but knew that forty four year old, shirtless

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones ranting to go children would not play well,

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>so he had his own teenager do a video. We're

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>going to play a small selection from that because it

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 1>is pretty embarrassing. It is admitted they want to distrom

0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the American people, just as they have done with so

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>many rough regimes in the past. Hitler, stalin Mouth, North Korea.

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you think those places Do you think those corrupt

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>leaders allowed their citizens to have guns? Do you think

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 1>that the Jews were able to protect themselves when Hitler

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>put them in concentration camps? No, they were disarmed and

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that's why they were enslaved. Really, first of all, he's

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>doing the Alex Jones voice already. Yeah, yeah, And he

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>looks and he's got like he's got this just staring

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>into the void look on his face. This like indoctrinated

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>look at his face. It looks like very chilling looking

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a fundamentalist kid who has been stuck at camp for

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>too long, you know what I mean, Like there's a

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:41.240
<v Speaker 1>there's a parenting quality. Yeah, and I have no reason

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>to question his wife when she's worries for her son,

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 1>because I'm worried for that kid. A fourteen year old

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>should not be looking like that, or talking like that,

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>or be put on a camera in front of millions

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>of people saying those things. He's fourteen. It's just gross.

0:44:56.080 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 1>It's really really gross and scary. So you might have

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>expected Alex Jones to be on his best behavior during

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the epic court battle over his children's custody. You know,

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 1>if someone's legal case rest entirely on the claim that

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>they're just an actor playing a crazy guy and not

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>really crazy themselves, maybe that person shouldn't do crazy, unhinged

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:16.879
<v Speaker 1>things in the middle of their court case. That would

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 1>make sense, right, like good logic, solid strategy. Right. Alex

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Jones took a different tact. Midway through the trial. He

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>published a video on Info Wars Live titled Alex Jones

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>responds to Sandy Hook Vampire. Sadly, this video appears to

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>have been scrubbed from the Internet, so I'm going to

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 1>read Rolling Stones summary of what it included. Instead of

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 1>ranting about unanswered questions around the mass shooting, he showed

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>scenes from the nineteen seventy three American science fiction movies

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Soilent Green, and talked about his teenage sex life. So

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>here we go. Yeah, oh wow, Yeah, So I have

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a question. They said that he might be a problem

0:45:56.200 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 1>drinker and spend a lot of time on camera or

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:04.720
<v Speaker 1>in public inebriated. Was there anything Did you see anything

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:09.280
<v Speaker 1>about him possibly being drunk or inebriated during the trial

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>or during the hearing. Rather, I did not run into

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 1>any evidence of that. I think it's entirely possible, but

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Certainly, I haven't read read anyone alleging

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:20.399
<v Speaker 1>that he was drunk during the trial. They didn't play

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>a video during the trial of a drunk Alex Jones

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 1>talking about his desire to piss on a tree. And

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll defend him on that because I've spent there. Absolutely,

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I've spent a lot of my life drunk and paying

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 1>on trees. And it's a noble, noble way to spend

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>your time. Yeah, just don't get caught. Don't get caught,

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 1>or do it in the woods where it's fine to

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 1>pay on everything. That's the joy of the woods, which

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.399
<v Speaker 1>is why I think Alex is drawn to the woods. Yeah,

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>at least crazy thing about him. Okay. So at one

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 1>point during the trial, Kelly Jones took the stand and

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.720
<v Speaker 1>laid out her accusations against her ex husband. She claimed

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>that Alex was a quote angry, volatile, hateful person who

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 1>regularly went on racist, homophobic, and anti women rants. She

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>also said that their children had begun to pair it

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>his beliefs. She said that she heard her fourteen year

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:13.879
<v Speaker 1>old son say I hate women, and their twelve year

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>old daughters say women shouldn't be judges. Kelly warned presumably

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the entire world that quote they are morphing into him. Yes,

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 1>but that that is so evident, and that click you played,

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just it looks like a little mini

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones. It's he's trained a second one, which means that,

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 1>like our fucking grandkids, will probably be dealing with a

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:38.880
<v Speaker 1>crazy person last named Joan Shirtless on Info Wars screaming

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 1>about the globalists, or maybe not, depending on how the

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>as this podcast, I will see um. But yeah, that

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 1>scares the hell out of me. The idea that this

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 1>man is allowed to influence the lives of children is horrifying.

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just more apparent though with his own children, because

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 1>he's able to legally exert you know, physical influence over there.

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 1>But I think this leads to a larger quat gien

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>which is difficult to answer. How many other children are

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>being influenced? And it's not as if it's difficult for

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a twelve year old to find him on YouTube? No,

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, when I was a young teenage, like fifteen,

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>fourteen or fifteen, I ran into Alex Jones stuff on

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the Internet all the time and thought it was like

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:21.879
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was funny, but I watched a bunch

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 1>of his stuff as a kid, um, and who knows.

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do think that the globalists are poisoning

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 1>our water and that the only way to get rid

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:33.320
<v Speaker 1>of the toxins that they put into our water is

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to buy the new Bastard's pod. I had nine shield

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 1>protection potion, which again I will mail you if you

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>pay pal Me forty three dollars it'll it'll come in

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a brown envelope. That's just just a pile of pills,

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:49.799
<v Speaker 1>you know what I am sold. Yes, PayPal Me money

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and I will mail you pills. And okay, let's get

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.320
<v Speaker 1>back to Alex Jones Jones's ex wife, Kelly, complained that

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the public and controversial nature of her husband's work put

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 1>she in her children in danger. She brought up a

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>tweeted death threat Alex received in April of two thousand seventeen,

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 1>which had threatened death to Alex, his children, and Info

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Wars staff. So yeah. She basically claimed that because he's

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>so prominent and so controversial in involving their children, that

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>he's putting them in danger, which again seems fair. Uh.

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.799
<v Speaker 1>In the end, the court seems to have sided with her.

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 1>The couple remained joint managing conservators, so neither of them

0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 1>has full custody, but his wife gained the ability to

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 1>designate the primary residence of the children, which is a

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 1>big win and i this will continue to be relitigated.

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they will be back in court numerous times

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:40.320
<v Speaker 1>before their kids are eighteen. So the last year and

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a half or so of Alex's life has, as you

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 1>probably guess by now, involved a lot of courtroom time.

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Alex was actually sued in the middle of his custody

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 1>hearing by Chobani Yogurt of all people, because on April tenth,

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>while in the middle of his trial, Alex published a

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>video titled Idaho Yogurt Maker Caught Importing Migrant Rapists. The

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>video itself is pretty boring. It starts two of Jones's

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 1>lackeys rather than Alex himself. The video basically connects Chobani

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:08.400
<v Speaker 1>to a rape committed by some refugees and then spirals

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.320
<v Speaker 1>into an incoherent rant. Jones doesn't show up until the

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 1>end when he comes in to deliver a special report which,

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>rather than being about refugees, is about iodine, which he sells.

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:20.320
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna listen to a little bit of that.

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Off your family a favor and check out the importance

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 1>of iodine for yourself. I think you're gonna be blown away,

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and whatever you do, support the broadcast to get a

0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 1>bottle of survival shield Nason on on X two. Also

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>consult your physician because have you been deficient in it

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:36.759
<v Speaker 1>or have other issues. It can maps dramatic effects. As

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>for me and most folks I talked to, it's been

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.360
<v Speaker 1>a game changer in the positive column. But still consult

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 1>your physician because iodine is no joke, because a key

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>building block of the body, and if you haven't had

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 1>it for a long time and suddenly have it. Some

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>folks say they've experienced things like a detoxing effect and

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>things like that. You've got to have bottom. And so

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:55.480
<v Speaker 1>this is what he appends to the end of a

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>video accusing Chobani of importing rapists to the United States.

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Chobani sued him, and again they sued him while he

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 1>was in the middle of the custody hearing with his

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 1>wife his ex wife, Um, when you showed us this video.

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>One thing that really sticks out to me is that

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>from an editing perspective, it looks like a hastily arranged

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:19.439
<v Speaker 1>voiceover with just clips playing like it flashed. The two

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 1>shots of him at the news desk, I guess at

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the war's news desk, but he's it's clearly from an

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>earlier recording. So did he really just record a video

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 1>for iodine? Yeah? I think he recorded, because that's how

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:34.720
<v Speaker 1>he does. It is like they're doing this other report

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:38.240
<v Speaker 1>that's supposedly a news story about the dangerous refugees Chobani

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>is bringing into the United States, and then Alex makes

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>it look like he's delivering breaking news, but instead of

0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 1>he's just trying to sell you iodine. Oh wow. Remarkable.

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 1>So after Chabanni sued Alex. He immediately put out another video,

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 1>laughing at the company for daring to come after him. Uh.

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:57.400
<v Speaker 1>He claimed that he could back up all of the

0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:59.879
<v Speaker 1>claims that he had made about rapes and TV beings

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 1>bread by Chobani's refugee workers. But then in May he

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:06.360
<v Speaker 1>settled out of court with Chabani, paying them an undisclosed

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:10.640
<v Speaker 1>sum and releasing this sweet, sweet dose of schadenfreude. And

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm overwhelmingly happy to present to all of you Alex

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Jones apologizing to Chobani Yogurt on the infull Wars twitter

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>feed and YouTube channel regarding Shabani LLC that I now

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 1>understand to be wrong. The tweets and video have now

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:28.840
<v Speaker 1>been retracted and will not be reposted on half of

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the full Wars. I regret that we miss Church Rise,

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Shabani It's employees, and the people of Twin Falls, Ottaho

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 1>the way we did well. Like that he's got he's

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>got a shirt on, he's got a shirt on, he's

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:48.520
<v Speaker 1>reading copy. Clearly he I wonder how much money they

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.920
<v Speaker 1>pulled out of his hide and how much money less

0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>he had to pay as a result of apologizing publicly,

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's very It was a very clearly legally man Yeah,

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 1>really a legal mandated apology just screaming. It sounds like

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 1>his legal team probably also negotiated the language of the apology.

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>That's why I had to be explicit. And I bet

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:10.800
<v Speaker 1>he fought them for a while on whether or not

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 1>he was going to wear a shirt during that. But

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:15.360
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, He's like, look, I'll do it, but I

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.839
<v Speaker 1>gotta be greased up. Yeah, I want to get real

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 1>greasy in my underwear. Can I strip while I apologize?

0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Can I sell iodine shield while I am apologizing? I

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 1>am shocked that there was no ad for Info Wars

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Life in that apology to Chabani, you would expect, right, Okay, No,

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you absolutely would. I especially don't make these sorts of

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 1>errors in my reporting. But I haven't been taking my

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:43.760
<v Speaker 1>supplements and it's making me crazy. I've just been eaten chili.

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>On April seventeen, two thousand and eighteen, the families of

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.360
<v Speaker 1>several children who died in the Sandy Hook attack, including

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Lenny Postner and Veronica his ex wife, sued Alex Jones

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:56.479
<v Speaker 1>for more than a million dollars. Now we've already talked

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:59.919
<v Speaker 1>about in our last podcast, Veronica and Lenny. Another parent

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>last named Hesslin, was also part of this lawsuit because

0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Info Wars Alex Jones claimed that he was lying about

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>seeing a bullet hole in his child's head. Alex actually

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Speaker 1>did a whole special report where they like attempted to

0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 1>prove that he couldn't have seen his child's dead body. Which, yeah,

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>so these people all joined together in a big old

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.840
<v Speaker 1>lawsuit against Info Wars. The suit on behalf of the

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Sandy Hook families came at the same time as another

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:27.520
<v Speaker 1>defamation suit. Marcel Fontaine sued Alex Jones for one million

0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>dollars because Alex had used his image on air and

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:33.520
<v Speaker 1>claimed that he was the Parkland shooter. He didn't even

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>live in the state. I don't know if he'd ever

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 1>even been to Florida. So two defamation suits drop at

0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the same time, both for a million dollars, and in August,

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:45.240
<v Speaker 1>six more Sandy Hook families joined the lawsuit against August.

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I think there's nine families currently suing him for his

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:52.800
<v Speaker 1>role in perpetuating that particular conspiracy theory and court lawyers

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Sandy Hook families played an episode of Info

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Wars where Alex Jones broadcast maps to the Posner home

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 1>using audible gasps from the jury. So Alex actually doxed

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>people like claimed that they had faked their child's murder,

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:09.879
<v Speaker 1>and then told his viewers how to find their home.

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Alex's lawyer argued that this did not count as defamation.

0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Quote what does it count as well? You're sorry, Alex's lawyer.

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the edge of my seat here, man. Maybe

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.799
<v Speaker 1>it's fringe speech, maybe it's dangerous speech, but it's not defamation.

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 1>That is rhetoric hyperbole at its core. O. Come then,

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I do imagine that as like the country lawyer. Maybe

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>it's fringe speech, maybe it's dangerous speech, but defamation declare

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>there is rhetorical hyperbole at its core, rhetorical hyperbole. Here's

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a video of Alex Jones talking about the Sandy Hook parents.

0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Y'all tell me if you think this seems like defamation.

0:55:57.320 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Billy off and watched him go around the corner and

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:03.400
<v Speaker 1>he never came back, all because of the guns. Won't

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you just turn your guns in from my son? Why

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:11.240
<v Speaker 1>did you do it to him? Gun? Own this listen,

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't kill your kids. The truth is they've had

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:17.320
<v Speaker 1>national polls were upwards of half of Americans don't believe

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Sandy Hook because they don't believe a word the mainstream

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:24.640
<v Speaker 1>media says, we've sent reporters up there, man, and that

0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:26.799
<v Speaker 1>place is like children in the corner or something. I mean,

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:32.239
<v Speaker 1>it is freaking weird. And then the weird videos of

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:34.800
<v Speaker 1>reported parents of kids laughing, and all of a sudden

0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:36.759
<v Speaker 1>they do the high preventilating to cry, to go on TV.

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:39.799
<v Speaker 1>All I know is something's going on, and you don't

0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>like us looking at it. You don't like us questioning

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you the father, He's to clarified that n b C.

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 1>He's to clarified, clarify because the corner said none of

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 1>the parents were allowed to touch the kids or see

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the kids, and maybe they meaning at the school. I'm

0:56:56.480 --> 0:57:00.399
<v Speaker 1>sure later maybe the parents saw their children. So um

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Alex will claim and still claims that he never accused

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.799
<v Speaker 1>the families of faking their children's deaths. You can see

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>where he has a legal leg to stand on there,

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:13.359
<v Speaker 1>because he said study show upwards of half Americans don't

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 1>believe anything happened at San Diego because they don't believe

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media. But then he immediately goes into talking

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>about what we've sent reporters up there, and it seems

0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it's spooky. It seems like a ghost town. Like I

0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>would say that that meets my personal threshold for defamation

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of these families for for damn sure. Um. I don't

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>know what the law is gonna wind up saying, but

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 1>it seems pretty defamatory to me. So this is still

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 1>in motion. This is still being adjudicated. Yeah, this is

0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 1>still in motion. It is still going on. Jones's lawyers

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>at one point asked the judge to throw out the

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>case and tried to sue Ronick and Lenny for a

0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars in court fees. Now, Alex did rescind

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that attempt to get them to pay his court fees,

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and he, in an interview with a journalist, was very

0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 1>angry that the news has not reported more on the

0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>fact that he decided not to countersue the families that

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>he defamed. His lawyer's request to have the case thrown

0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 1>out was denied in August, So we're still waiting to

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:07.440
<v Speaker 1>see where all of these cards are gonna fall. I

0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:10.120
<v Speaker 1>know of at least three defamation cases going on against

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones right now, though, so he is concurrently involved

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:15.920
<v Speaker 1>in at least three defamation suits. It might be more

0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like five. Like a lot of people are suing him

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:22.680
<v Speaker 1>right now. Um and whatever these cases wind up costing him,

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:25.439
<v Speaker 1>if anything, you know, he might win, but that cost

0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 1>will be in addition to the millions of dollars he's

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:30.360
<v Speaker 1>spent on custody battles with his wife. I assume he's

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:32.680
<v Speaker 1>spending millions of dollars in all of these lawsuits. I

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:35.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know what he paid to Chibani, or if he

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:37.440
<v Speaker 1>paid them, but I think it's fairly safe to say

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that Alex Jones is hemorrhage in cash right now, as

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:43.320
<v Speaker 1>is his Info Wars operation. Like he is. He's hired

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 1>top dollar lawyers, and he's involved this is I think

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:48.560
<v Speaker 1>like something seven or eight different lawsuits this year, Like

0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:51.360
<v Speaker 1>that is enough to drain even a very rich man,

0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 1>which Alex is. All of which makes this a very

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 1>bad time for him to suddenly get cut off from

0:58:57.200 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 1>every single major social media platform. Over the course of August,

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 1>he was banned by Facebook and YouTube, and the iTunes

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 1>app store, among other platforms. The bands caused an initial

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:10.120
<v Speaker 1>surge in traffic to infull Wars as people flocked there

0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>to see Jones's increasingly unhinged reactions to the banning. This

0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>caused him to celebrate and say, quote, the more I

0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:20.040
<v Speaker 1>am persecuted, the stronger I get. It backfired. But that

0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to be true. Here's what The New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times wrote on September four, two thousand eighteen. In the

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks before the August six bands in full Wars

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<v Speaker 1>had an daily average of nearly one point four million

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<v Speaker 1>visits to its website and views of videos posted by

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<v Speaker 1>its main YouTube and Facebook pages. But quote, in the

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<v Speaker 1>three months afterward, its audience fell by roughly half to

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<v Speaker 1>about seven hundred and fifteen thousand site visits and video views,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the analysis. So it's possible that his traffic

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<v Speaker 1>is down by half or more than half right now. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Because on September five, while lawmakers talked to Jack Dorsey,

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<v Speaker 1>the head of Twitter, Alex Jones showed up in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. His cunning plan end was to scream at everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>including Jack Dorsey, the man who had, by some accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>personally intervened to stop him from being banned by Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex yelled at a lot of people during that trip, though,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of those people was CNNs Oliver Darcy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Darcy had documented all of the ways Alex Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>info Wars had violated YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter's codes of conduct. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a big part of the fact that Alex

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<v Speaker 1>had been d platformed by everyone but Twitter. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>info Wars calls Darcy quote the architect of d platform

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<v Speaker 1>and conservatives. Jones confronted Darcy during his DC tripped and

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<v Speaker 1>streamed the whole encounter on periscope, which is owned by Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is just a clip of that so you can

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<v Speaker 1>get an idea of what was going on here, the

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<v Speaker 1>decisions for the mess because you don't even respond, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're just scum. You have him with no viewers, no followers.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone can't stand you, no matter you could shut everyone

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<v Speaker 1>down on earth. No one will like you. You understand

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<v Speaker 1>that he'll never have builties of relatiers, of fans and followers.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll never have people that love you. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any else you're like you? You don't. You are a

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<v Speaker 1>dishonorable liar who would never even dare have me on

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<v Speaker 1>your little tiny shows when you instilledor called me a virus.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a virus to America and freedom. You are authoritarianism.

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<v Speaker 1>Just look in those eyes. What I wanna? I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to throw some props Darcy's way, because there are

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<v Speaker 1>other videos you can find, even from DC of him

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<v Speaker 1>arguing with people on the street. A couple of women

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<v Speaker 1>confront him at one point and they get into a

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<v Speaker 1>screaming argument with him, and they do the wrong thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is engaged with him. Because Alex's thing, whenever he's

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<v Speaker 1>in person, he's going to throw out as many different,

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<v Speaker 1>very specific accusations as possible because that's the way his

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<v Speaker 1>mind works. Because then you're going to lose. If you

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<v Speaker 1>try to address one thing, he's going to attack you

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<v Speaker 1>for not addressing the other things. If you try to

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<v Speaker 1>address everything, he's just gonna keep throwing more stuff at

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<v Speaker 1>you until you don't have a response, which makes it

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<v Speaker 1>look like you've lost. Darcy just doesn't say anything until

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<v Speaker 1>there's a break and when he and then he will

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<v Speaker 1>just say something like do you have anything else to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Alex always good to see you, Alex like he really

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<v Speaker 1>understands this guy and how to defying him. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out that that rant against Darcy was well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's debatable. Some people will say that the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he yelled at Jack Dorsey is why Dorsey pulled him

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<v Speaker 1>from Twitter. The official reason that Jones got pulled from

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter is because what he did to Oliver Darcy on

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<v Speaker 1>periscope was abusive and bullying and in violation of Twitter's

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<v Speaker 1>rules of conduct. So Alex Jones was banned from Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>the very next day. Uh. It is impossible to know

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<v Speaker 1>where the future will take Alex Jones and Info Wars,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think it's important for posterity's sake that

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<v Speaker 1>we take a look at how he reacted to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he has now been thoroughly d platformed from

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<v Speaker 1>polite digital society. Here's a clip from his first post

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<v Speaker 1>ban episode. He starts the clip wearing a donkey mask,

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<v Speaker 1>which he rips off to reveal the reptilian mask underneath.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's wearing two masks at the start of this video. H.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just beautiful. H It's a long clip, but my god,

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<v Speaker 1>it's full of stars and we we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>play it. But no one's going to see that broadcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones you today because it's been deleted, and you

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<v Speaker 1>see you've learned and you've learned very very well that

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<v Speaker 1>only the Internet matters, not UHF, not VHF, nothing, Only

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<v Speaker 1>our control matters. And so now you're being taught to submit.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me tell you about Operations six six Sixation

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<v Speaker 1>six six is a fake donkey head on the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Aloration freed, she Destroyal I'm just a donkey on the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth obviously banded four wars from twenty seven platforms, and

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<v Speaker 1>now September six we band you from Twitter, and on

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<v Speaker 1>October six, we will destroy your president and set fire

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<v Speaker 1>to every major US city and have our communist forces

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<v Speaker 1>launched our attack while Silicon Valley sits in their bunkers

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the Pacific Ocean in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>Operation six six six the number of the Beast hell

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<v Speaker 1>and fire raining free. Soon the West Room fall. One

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<v Speaker 1>eight billion Islamis has trained in Satanism are ready to

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<v Speaker 1>invade the China system road span. The Third World will

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<v Speaker 1>collapse into Europe and America domination will be complete. I

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<v Speaker 1>was wrong. That's not the video where he rips off

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<v Speaker 1>his donkey masks to reveal an alien mask. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a different video where he wears a job. There's just

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<v Speaker 1>so many. I love this though, because first off, that's

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<v Speaker 1>quality entertainment. That is quality entertainment. He's nothing if not

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<v Speaker 1>a showman. That's that's damna. And the way he's moving

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<v Speaker 1>around and being so arch with his statements really reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of um villains from old cartoons like Cobra Commander

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<v Speaker 1>or um. But there's a yeah exactly, Yeah, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a strong Cobra Commander vibe to Alex Jones in that

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<v Speaker 1>video that is like he has gone off of the

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<v Speaker 1>deep end and is digging his own swimming pool now,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's yeah, for sure. Something else. I love that

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<v Speaker 1>line one point three billion Islamist trained in Satanism are

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<v Speaker 1>on the border or something like that, because they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we need as many as Lamis as as we can get,

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<v Speaker 1>but make sure they're trained in Satanism. Yeah. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have asked this one, although that's almost woke for Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Jones because he is claiming that they have to be

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<v Speaker 1>trained in the Satanism, which you know, for Alex Jones

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<v Speaker 1>that's progressive. So maybe he's turned a corner. No, no, so,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have any idea what's going to happen to

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<v Speaker 1>this guy? No idea Um, it's still too soon after

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<v Speaker 1>the bands to know what kind of financial impact there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to really be for the fact that he's been

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<v Speaker 1>DP platformed, so over the next couple of months, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure a lot of people will be watching to see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to his traffic, you know, what happens to

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<v Speaker 1>the spread of his ideas. I did watch his most

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<v Speaker 1>recent big broadcast, and he makes a big point of

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a video out right now. The Daily Wire

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<v Speaker 1>posted it first, but then Jones grabbed it of like

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<v Speaker 1>this rancher put up a camera on his land for

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<v Speaker 1>like two and a half years and he filmed people

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<v Speaker 1>crossing the border, and so like Alex has turned like

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<v Speaker 1>an army is crossing the boy. Yeah, but he he

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<v Speaker 1>makes polls to like put this on your Twitter page.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we can't tweet this, but you can, is

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<v Speaker 1>what he says. And I suspect we're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that as him being like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>put this on Facebook, but you can. Um, So yeah

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<v Speaker 1>to action. Yeah, He's going to keep trying, even if

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<v Speaker 1>he has to go back to being the guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>attacking Heraldo Rivera and screaming on a bullhorn. While someone

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<v Speaker 1>else broadcast. I don't think he's going to stop doing

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<v Speaker 1>what he's done his entire adult life at this point. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>was that DC trip the same trip wherein he accosted

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Rubio, No, it was the same trip. He said

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<v Speaker 1>he had a busy day. So Alex Jones, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I got for you, guys. What did you

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<v Speaker 1>have you learned? I'm exhausted, Robert, that was that was

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<v Speaker 1>a it was a wild ride you just took us on.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the first of all. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>single most hours of podcasting I think either one of

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<v Speaker 1>us have done in a single day. Yeah, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get a donkey mask. Yeah, we all need

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<v Speaker 1>donkey masks. I think that's fair. I feel that insane

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<v Speaker 1>right now that I would totally wear a donkey mask

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the night, just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just out around the town, but with a shirt on.

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<v Speaker 1>And would people ask what it's for, Just say operations

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<v Speaker 1>six City six six run cackling. Then you can rip

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<v Speaker 1>your shirt off and run cackling into the night and

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<v Speaker 1>have a nice night bath. I need one of those

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<v Speaker 1>Hulkyogan like Haraway shirts that's like made of like orth.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised he doesn't have one of those. You'd think

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<v Speaker 1>he'd have a closet full of them by now. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very he's very restrained when he's stripping for the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that is the most restrained stripping for the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI I've ever seen. For sure. I think he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make it a little erotic. Well, Robert, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for breaking our brains and having us on your bonkers

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<v Speaker 1>three part series on Alex Jones. Well, yeah, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for letting us do this. Man, Well, thank you both

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<v Speaker 1>for enduring this with me, and thank you listeners for

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<v Speaker 1>enduring this with us. Although you've taken these I hope

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<v Speaker 1>three days apart from each other, as opposed to all

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<v Speaker 1>at once, which is a lot of Alex Jones to take. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I need, I need all the drinks. Yeah, Like now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to drink heavily and watch the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones after this, which is Mr Mr Rogers. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Ross perhaps, maybe like the Great British Baking Show,

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<v Speaker 1>just not Captain Kangaroo. That guy is a creepy. Although

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<v Speaker 1>if I IF I, IF I, IF I watch Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Ross in my current mind state. I'm sure I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see gunmen behind the happy little trees, but too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe just go walk the streets of your neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>for a while and trying to look at the stars

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I don't know, man, you know what, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I think I'm gonna do. I'm gonna find

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of cameramen, I'm gonna strip naked, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go bathe in the night. That does seem like

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea, you know, night bathing deserves a quiet night,

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<v Speaker 1>night bathing. Thank you for the r M reference. You're

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<v Speaker 1>very welcome. Yeah, and uh, thank you all for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no, Benjamin, you guys wanna wanna plug your plug

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<v Speaker 1>doubles before we uh, we'll do the we'll do the

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<v Speaker 1>quick and dirty version. God knows we need to. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got stuff they don't want you to know, conspiracy theories

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<v Speaker 1>with critical thinking. Uh, it's it's a it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a full package. You can turn back now, or

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<v Speaker 1>you can find every episode we've ever done on our website.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff they don't want, you know, dot Com or Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Podcasts or Spotify. We also have a also have a

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<v Speaker 1>great show called Ridiculous History that Nolan I host that

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<v Speaker 1>covers all the strange, bizarre, unusual, and sometimes hilarious people,

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<v Speaker 1>places and events throughout the span of human civilization. It's

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<v Speaker 1>true and you can find that on all the places

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<v Speaker 1>too at Ridiculous History. And God, Robert, this has been

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<v Speaker 1>a blast, slash and utter nightmare. Um and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank you for putting me through this. I really

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<v Speaker 1>feel like what does not kill you makes you stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I've never felt that more than I feel

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I thought you were going to say, what

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't kill you makes you bonkers. That's what I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with. And uh, I'd like to make an Alex Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should all make Alex Jones T shirt ideas

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<v Speaker 1>on our shows. It's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>send us your suggestions. Yeah. I think I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>write Alex Jones was murdered and sharpie on a white

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt and walk around Hollywood Boulevard for a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>just see what what kind of reaction that gets? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm going to conjecture, not much of one.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I write Custody Wars dot Com on the back.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Now we're cooking. Now we're working, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Robert Evans. This has been Behind the Bastards. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find this podcast on Twitter and Instagram at

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<v Speaker 1>at bastards pod. Uh. So, I hope you all have

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this little nightmare. And uh, by our T shirts

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<v Speaker 1>on t public. We don't have any Alex Jones shirts yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure we'll cook something up, you know. Send

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<v Speaker 1>us a message on Twitter if you have a good

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt idea featuring America's craziest donkey headed shirtless man.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye for now. H