Speaker 1: M hey, everybody, welcome to Behind the Bastards. I'm Robert Evans,
Speaker 1: and this is the show where we tell you everything
Speaker 1: you don't know about the very worst people in all
Speaker 1: of history. I'm gonna take a quick bite from a
Speaker 1: delightful derrito, and I'm going to introduce our guests for
Speaker 1: the day. M hmm. Do you hear the sound of
Speaker 1: it biting back? It feels so good to hear that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Benjamin No co hosts of ridiculous history
Speaker 1: and stuff they don't want you to know. Also a
Speaker 1: little punchy right now because here we're on the East
Speaker 1: coast and so it's eight o'clock right now, and we've
Speaker 1: been here since about eight am, and uh so if
Speaker 1: but it's fine, I just I'm like writing it out.
Speaker 1: I'm having a great time. Also, we can see each
Speaker 1: other on video, so every time that Robert eats a derrito,
Speaker 1: we we noticed the pause, we get the whole gravitas
Speaker 1: of the performance, you know, and take a shot of whiskey.
Speaker 1: And I'm personally very excited that we, you know, want
Speaker 1: to welcome all the listeners, uh to this episode that
Speaker 1: that we've teased for a little bit, because that last
Speaker 1: episode had some really heavy, emotionally powerful and uh, despair
Speaker 1: worthy stuff, and I think we're finally setting ourselves up
Speaker 1: for some catharsis right, Robert, Yes, we are so. Just
Speaker 1: in case you're tuning in for the part three for
Speaker 1: some reason and haven't watched the first two, we're talking
Speaker 1: about Alex Jones. In part one, we talked about his
Speaker 1: rise and how he's sort of invented a lot of
Speaker 1: the field that we're all currently employed in and figured
Speaker 1: out how to market stuff using the Internet and podcasts
Speaker 1: in the radio and really revolutionary ways. In part two,
Speaker 1: we talked about how he built an empire selling supplements,
Speaker 1: some of which contained six times the recommended daily dose
Speaker 1: of lead, and how his empire was heavily dependent on
Speaker 1: convincing people that the government was attacking them and that
Speaker 1: they were under threatened about to be destroyed, and that
Speaker 1: this sparked a number of mass shootings, or at least
Speaker 1: was a factor potentially in a number of mass shootings,
Speaker 1: because a whole lot of his fans have committed mass shootings.
Speaker 1: We ended by talking about the Sandy Hook conspiracy theory,
Speaker 1: which Alex Jones was one of the origin points for,
Speaker 1: and which resulted in a massive lawsuit that is still ongoing.
Speaker 1: So as as you talked about today, is the schadenfreude
Speaker 1: episode of of Alex Jones, the Fall of the House
Speaker 1: of Jones, where we talk about sort of the collapse
Speaker 1: or what appears to be the collapse of this empire
Speaker 1: that he has built. But before we get into all
Speaker 1: of the lawsuits, I'm going to go back in time
Speaker 1: a little bit to the election. It is possible that
Speaker 1: Alex Jones did not want Donald Trump to win the
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen election. Uh you will remember back
Speaker 1: in two thousand and twelve, there was some suspicion by
Speaker 1: people close to Alex that he actually voted for Barack
Speaker 1: Obama because he was afraid that he would make less
Speaker 1: money with a Republican in the White House. And when
Speaker 1: on election night it started to look like Trump was
Speaker 1: going to win, one staffer who was with Jones on
Speaker 1: that night reported later, quote, he looked depressed. You could
Speaker 1: tell when he found out that Trump was going to win.
Speaker 1: You could see his mood change. This employee noted that quote,
Speaker 1: his business is based on a fear of the left
Speaker 1: taking over a conservative way of life. He has to
Speaker 1: have that power of fear, that idea that they're going
Speaker 1: to take your guns. Trump winning put it all in jeopardy. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know how true that is. I suspect the
Speaker 1: employee who said that may have been Ashley Lynn Beckford,
Speaker 1: who filed an e O C claim against Alex this
Speaker 1: year that we'll be talking about in a little bit,
Speaker 1: but maybe not. We don't know if that quote is true.
Speaker 1: We do know that, on paper, at least late two
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen was the apex of Alex Jones's influence. He
Speaker 1: claims to have had eighteen million viewers watching the returns
Speaker 1: come in live on election Night. Now. A few weeks later,
Speaker 1: in mid December, Alex filmed one of the most incredible
Speaker 1: videos I've ever seen in my entire life. I thoroughly
Speaker 1: suggest you listeners find this video on our website because
Speaker 1: it shows Alex Jones looking like an unhinged, goddamn maniac,
Speaker 1: and more so than he has ever looked before. In
Speaker 1: this video that we're about to play the audio from,
Speaker 1: he is shirtless wandering our round the woods near his
Speaker 1: studio in the dead of winter. One of his cameraman says,
Speaker 1: it's twenty five degrees outside Jones is an asset or something.
Speaker 1: He looks like it. Man, I think he looks like
Speaker 1: he's about to change into a wolf. He's like mid metamorphoustamorphouses.
Speaker 1: Imagine Alex Jones about to burst into werewolf dum and
Speaker 1: you'll have a good idea of how he looks in this. Now.
Speaker 1: In the part of the video right before I play this,
Speaker 1: Jones claims that the media would freak out if they
Speaker 1: knew how connected he was to the New Halls of
Speaker 1: Power and the President Trump. And now we're gonna play
Speaker 1: a good chunk of this video for y'all the experience.
Speaker 1: This feels fantastic. This is what it is to be alive.
Speaker 1: Her answers, run, run. It's a lot of colder than this,
Speaker 1: taking animals hall on them back to the y. That's
Speaker 1: what it's. I'm not here bathing in the night forest,
Speaker 1: bathing as it's all about. I don't need. He's on
Speaker 1: heavy drugs. He did a couple times in high school.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is harding an anxiety attack. He might
Speaker 1: be on that. This this is what it is to
Speaker 1: take on the global It's to have Hillary attack you
Speaker 1: and attack you when the communist Chinese attack you and
Speaker 1: call for your censorship. Dart the dark heart right there,
Speaker 1: It is right there. I do have greight hair, only
Speaker 1: my heart. But the point is is that this is
Speaker 1: what it's all about. This is what it's like when
Speaker 1: you don't sit in front of video games all day
Speaker 1: and act like you're intellectual and act like you're tough.
Speaker 1: And I'm not criticizing you you playing video games. The
Speaker 1: point is it's designed and it's to humanize you in
Speaker 1: every single way. And it feels so good to break
Speaker 1: free from the matrix. It feels so good to be alive.
Speaker 1: It feels so good to be involved, and it feels
Speaker 1: so good to just feel my humanity rising as we
Speaker 1: resist the globlest Him is the spirit of humanity re
Speaker 1: enters the earth and the enemy. Just the looks on
Speaker 1: both of your faces right now are priceless. I wish
Speaker 1: I wish this was a video podcast or whatever. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, he keeps it is just that is the
Speaker 1: most bonkers thing I've ever seen in my life. No,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt he He's like on Hiawaska or some ship.
Speaker 1: I mean like that. I don't know what is going
Speaker 1: on with him. Forest bathing forest bathing, Yes, he continues.
Speaker 1: The video goes on for quite a while and he
Speaker 1: continues to wander around in the woods, followed by a
Speaker 1: giggling camera crew. H Jones suggests staying outside for hours.
Speaker 1: He repeatedly says how good he feels in the cold.
Speaker 1: He says at one point, quote people jump into buckets
Speaker 1: of ice. That's what's cold, which is not an untrue statement.
Speaker 1: That is cold. Uh. He tells an elaborate story about
Speaker 1: going hunting with his dad, all in the same manic tone.
Speaker 1: He suggests marching down to Barton Creek and then he says,
Speaker 1: it's weird your body doesn't get cold if you wear gloves.
Speaker 1: What he's wearing gloves and nothing else on his chest
Speaker 1: in that video. And apparently we have a lot Atlanta
Speaker 1: where our podcasts are based, beautiful city. Um, we have
Speaker 1: a lot of very interesting people struggling with drug addiction.
Speaker 1: And that's totally sounds like crackhead logic, Like I could
Speaker 1: see somebody assuring us that it's okay, they're not cold,
Speaker 1: or they can't get wet or something because they have gloves.
Speaker 1: You know that. He does definitely seem like he could
Speaker 1: be on crack. If you were to tell me this
Speaker 1: is a video of Alex Jones having just smoked a
Speaker 1: big rock of crack, I would say, yeah, that's maybe
Speaker 1: We're gonna play one more clip from that video. So
Speaker 1: right before this next clip, he starts talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: going bald, and then he throws in an ad offering
Speaker 1: off of coloeal silver. Because even wandering around on drugs,
Speaker 1: shirtless in the woods, Alex Jones knows how to plug
Speaker 1: his fucking products. All Right, calm, these are really badass stuff,
Speaker 1: people asked. I mean, I turned into a blob. I'm
Speaker 1: not in great shape now, but I lost it almost
Speaker 1: seventy pounds sixty a lot of muscle. Uh. And it is.
Speaker 1: I haven't taken any brain forces. I just didn't need it.
Speaker 1: Had had coffee uh today, and I'm just hired to
Speaker 1: cock with what's happened in the world. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: battling the globless, we're affecting world change. As a man,
Speaker 1: my body just goes, this is great, here's more energy.
Speaker 1: Great job. I almost want to play the whole video,
Speaker 1: but that would be too much for the people listening.
Speaker 1: But it's a remarkable thing. You should watch this video
Speaker 1: of Alex Jones, shirtless, wandering in the woods and screaming,
Speaker 1: going like the gamnet of human emotions here. He deserves
Speaker 1: an Emmy for that video. I don't know what emmy,
Speaker 1: but just someone should give him one. This is right
Speaker 1: after the election. He certainly doesn't seem bummed about Trump
Speaker 1: winning in this video, so who knows what his actual
Speaker 1: feelings were. There's obviously been a lot of debate recently
Speaker 1: and over the last couple of years about how much
Speaker 1: influence Alex Jones now has in the White House. UH
Speaker 1: In two thousands seventeen, BuzzFeed made a good case for
Speaker 1: how his ideas at least regularly spread to the president.
Speaker 1: Quote in early March, in response to claims that the
Speaker 1: Trump administration was potentially colluding with Russia, and info Wars
Speaker 1: editor tweeted an old photo of New York Senator Chuck
Speaker 1: Schumer looking chummy with Vladimir Putin. Twelve hours later, the
Speaker 1: image was splashed atop the Drudge Report, and less than
Speaker 1: twelve hours after that, Trump's presidential account had tweeted it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the first time something like this had happened.
Speaker 1: In November two sixteen, info Wars published a story citing
Speaker 1: an unverified claim from a former Texas Health and Human
Speaker 1: Services Commission deputy commissioner that three million non citizens had
Speaker 1: voted illegally. The info war story was leaked by the
Speaker 1: Drudge Report, and thirteen days later wound up the subject
Speaker 1: of a tweet from Trump's account. As Jones put it
Speaker 1: last summer to the journalist John Ronson, quote, I put
Speaker 1: out a video a message to Trump, and then two
Speaker 1: days later he lays out the case. It's like sending
Speaker 1: up the bat signal. So Alex Jones is able to
Speaker 1: get information to Donald Trump, but it's possible and very
Speaker 1: likely in fact, that the two have not had communicated
Speaker 1: directly since that time Trump called him right after the election.
Speaker 1: In fact, it doesn't look like the direct line to
Speaker 1: President Trump that Alex was hoping for in that shirtless
Speaker 1: video ever, came to pass. In March of two seventeen,
Speaker 1: in an interview on the Travis County Courthouse steps, Alex
Speaker 1: Jones total reporter quote, we don't speak much since he
Speaker 1: became president. It's unclear if Jones is happy with the
Speaker 1: influence he has or angry because he doesn't get to
Speaker 1: communicate directly and formally to the President. I really don't know.
Speaker 1: In any case, the first hundred days of the Trump
Speaker 1: administration were actually not a good time for Alex Jones.
Speaker 1: For one thing, that dude held up the Comet Ping
Speaker 1: Pong pizzeria with an a R fifteen, believing child sex
Speaker 1: slaves were hidden in its basement. Jones wound up having
Speaker 1: to apologize for helping to spread the theory in order
Speaker 1: to avoid liability for his actions. Then he still wound
Speaker 1: up in a court fighting a vicious custody battle. Two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen was the spark for a so far endless
Speaker 1: series of lawsuits from Mr Jones. Now during these episodes,
Speaker 1: I've repeatedly referenced to two thousand eleven Rolling Stone article
Speaker 1: Meet Alex Jones. I told you that while it definitely
Speaker 1: took the stance that Jones was a crank, it presented
Speaker 1: a pretty fond picture of the guy quotes like this.
Speaker 1: People think I'm depressive and angry, but it's the opposite,
Speaker 1: Jones tells me over Margarita's at his favorite Mexican joint.
Speaker 1: My life is a love letter to humanity, with the
Speaker 1: globalist do as a hate letter a curse. The article
Speaker 1: describes Jones as a doting father, a devoted husband, and
Speaker 1: definitely not a racist. Quote. Unlike many of his conspiracy
Speaker 1: minded predecessors, Henry Ford, the Ku Klux Klan, the Militia movement,
Speaker 1: Jones has no tolerance for racism or anti Semitism. There's
Speaker 1: no globalist command center, and I never make it about
Speaker 1: certain groups, says Jones, whose wife is of Jewish descent
Speaker 1: and whose adopted sister, Marley is Asian American. So Jones
Speaker 1: denies being racist. Uh, and Rolling Stone was willing to
Speaker 1: give him credit on that in two thousand eleven. Um,
Speaker 1: now in two thousand eighteen, we have some evidence that
Speaker 1: he may in fact be a little bit racist. And
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to get into right now. Um,
Speaker 1: We're about to read some excerpts from a complaint made
Speaker 1: by Ashley Lynn Beckford, a black former employee of Alex
Speaker 1: Jones and Info Wars. She made this complaint to the
Speaker 1: Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in two thousand eighteen. The complaint
Speaker 1: does not portray a man with no tolerance for racism. Ashley,
Speaker 1: who I believe was the third ever black employee at
Speaker 1: Info Wars, filed this in February of two eighteen. You
Speaker 1: can find a link to the whole report on our site,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna read some quotes to it from it.
Speaker 1: To my knowledge, I was the only African amer Arcan
Speaker 1: woman ever to work at Free Speech Systems LLC. I
Speaker 1: was at the forefront of info wars news reports as
Speaker 1: a broadcast news analyst during the Trump election season and
Speaker 1: transition period. Both African American men ever to work for
Speaker 1: the production team were fired within the same month July
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. I believe that certain actions, such as
Speaker 1: underpaying me, were taken against me because I am a
Speaker 1: black individual. I was repeatedly mocked for my skin tone,
Speaker 1: and I was denied promotions to match the salary of
Speaker 1: other coworkers who did less work in a similar job.
Speaker 1: I have no trouble believing this story, although I am
Speaker 1: certain that Alex Jones and Info Wars deny it. So again,
Speaker 1: this is the report of an employee with the grievance.
Speaker 1: She's not an objective reporter, but she paints a fascinating
Speaker 1: picture of working at info Wars. Here's how she describes
Speaker 1: the hostile work environment. I was intimidated by the constant
Speaker 1: open carry and display of guns by co workers in
Speaker 1: the workplace. My supervisors and pure colleagues often brandished guns
Speaker 1: to scare away crazed fans, which made me feel uncomfortable
Speaker 1: and unsafe at work every day. So apparently people regularly
Speaker 1: show up to info Wars and have to be waved
Speaker 1: off by gun wielding Info Wars employees. That's insane. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it really paints a vivid picture of the working environment there.
Speaker 1: She claims that she and other employees were ordered to
Speaker 1: work longer weekday and weekend hours without pay. She claims
Speaker 1: they were repeatedly called motherfucker's by Alex's cousin Buckley Hammond.
Speaker 1: She says that she was once called a coon. She
Speaker 1: recalls having to stop a colleague from calling black people
Speaker 1: colored on the air, and she recalls a colleague showing
Speaker 1: her a pair of swastika covered shoes that he received
Speaker 1: as a gift from a fan. So it certainly seems
Speaker 1: like a lot of racism going on in the Info
Speaker 1: Wars office. Jesus Christ, and I guess the m O then,
Speaker 1: would at that point be for Alex Jones to say,
Speaker 1: I don't tolerate that, and I'm not aware of it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he would deny any sort of awareness of of anything
Speaker 1: like that. And he does deny any sort of awareness
Speaker 1: of that, but the complaint is still there. So Ashley
Speaker 1: tells the story of an ugly interaction she had when
Speaker 1: she was ordered to question people outside of a pro
Speaker 1: Hillary rally in two thousand sixteen. My cameraman, Josh Owens,
Speaker 1: who had worked in full Wars for years compared to
Speaker 1: my less than three month tenure, consistently pressured me to
Speaker 1: engage with the Hillary Clinton supporters as a black Trump promoter.
Speaker 1: I was subsequently subject to multiple people hurling insults and
Speaker 1: racial slurs at me, including Uncle Tom by one of
Speaker 1: the gay, white male attendees. Another Clinton supporter, a white
Speaker 1: lesbian woman, told me that she knew more about black
Speaker 1: issues than I did because she is married to a
Speaker 1: black woman who was also present. I went back to
Speaker 1: the Info Wars office in tears, incredulous at how I
Speaker 1: was being racially attacked because of my support for a
Speaker 1: political candidate, and Alex Jones, taking advantage of my fragility
Speaker 1: in that moment, forced me to share what had happened
Speaker 1: to me on the air for YouTube and other social
Speaker 1: media That same night feigning his own tears of empathy. So, wow,
Speaker 1: that's pretty gross. I will say there's some reasons to
Speaker 1: be a little bit suspicious of this lady, Like she
Speaker 1: claims that this video she feels like damaged her ability
Speaker 1: to be hired as a journalist in the future. And
Speaker 1: I gotta say, lady, working for info worce damaged your
Speaker 1: ability to be hired as a journalist in the future.
Speaker 1: That is not the thing you want on your resume
Speaker 1: if you're shooting for a job with The New York Times. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't have any trouble believing that it's a
Speaker 1: hostile work environment. Ashley goes on to claim that during
Speaker 1: this obviously traumatic and pretty fucked up time, Alex Jones
Speaker 1: copped to feel quote after the broadcast, I was with
Speaker 1: Alex Jones, Rob do and several other members in Rob
Speaker 1: Dow's office. I was talking about how I didn't agree
Speaker 1: with the white woman who had said that she knows
Speaker 1: about the black community better than I do because she
Speaker 1: has a black wife. Alex Jones was still pretending to
Speaker 1: feel sympathy for my plight as a black female Trump supporter,
Speaker 1: and he put his arm around my shoulder to initiate
Speaker 1: a side hug after he pulled me to his side,
Speaker 1: Instead of removing his arm from my shoulder, he allowed
Speaker 1: his arm to slide down my back and he grabbed
Speaker 1: my butt with his right hand. Simultaneously, he was commenting
Speaker 1: to those in the room who wouldn't want to have
Speaker 1: a black wife to response to my comment. I felt
Speaker 1: embarrassed and nervous, but I knew that he had specific
Speaker 1: He touched my behind at that moment as a sly
Speaker 1: come on that other people may not notice. It was
Speaker 1: extremely ironic because it was the lesbian, white woman with
Speaker 1: the black wife who had mentioned earlier that night on
Speaker 1: camera how Alex Jones is a womanizer who loves gray goose.
Speaker 1: I didn't know then that later on that same night,
Speaker 1: he would be drunk enough to feel confident about fondling
Speaker 1: his female staffers parentheses. Most of the staff was drinking
Speaker 1: alcohol that night in the office, as was the usual
Speaker 1: on late nights. Alex Jones was in possession of his
Speaker 1: trademark mugs and paper cups, which the staffer is often
Speaker 1: alleged contained alcohol infused beverages. So Alex Jones, well, what Fuckory,
Speaker 1: that's crazy? Yeah, well so So the the idea then,
Speaker 1: is that the guys I guess, trying to act as
Speaker 1: though he is a champion, and maybe it sounds like
Speaker 1: he's trying to diffuse the situation with the wife joke.
Speaker 1: But surely there's some kind of HR thing there or No.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of trouble believing that info Wars
Speaker 1: has a particularly dedicated HR team. Um, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: guess that's not one of the things they do really well.
Speaker 1: My read on that is that he was sort of
Speaker 1: making that joke while he was groping her, almost as
Speaker 1: like a distraction. But I don't I don't know. I
Speaker 1: wasn't there. That seems to be what she's saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the picture. This also paints at the
Speaker 1: office because now we know everyone is always armed at
Speaker 1: info Wars. People regularly wave guns around and whenever they
Speaker 1: work late nights, which is often, they're drunk. So it's
Speaker 1: a compound near the woods in Austin filled with drunken,
Speaker 1: armed people ranting about conspiracies and I can't believe I
Speaker 1: hate them, And it sounds like a terrible place because drunken,
Speaker 1: heavily armed commune in the Woods. Sounds like it could
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun if it wasn't Alex Chimes.
Speaker 1: It sounds like there's also some potential for these people
Speaker 1: waving their dicks around, so, oh my god, that has
Speaker 1: to be right. Yeah, yeah, oh no, it seems like
Speaker 1: rife for misogyny and and ask grabbery, even just waving
Speaker 1: their dicks around at each other literally just for fun. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do have trouble imagining someone working for Alex for
Speaker 1: a long time and not seeing his dick like I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, we don't see below the belt for
Speaker 1: most of these shirtless VIDs. I conjecture that it's possible
Speaker 1: that he's full nude, especially in that Woods video. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's anything in that Woods video. That guy hates clothes,
Speaker 1: just unless they're gloves. Wandering around naked except for a
Speaker 1: pair of gloves in the winter. Ah. That does a
Speaker 1: nice job of scrubbing the sexual harassment complaint out of
Speaker 1: my memory. Yeah, so what happens to her, Well, we'll
Speaker 1: get into that right now. It seems to be an
Speaker 1: appropriate time to sell some products and services, So I
Speaker 1: got to move that product. Gotta move the products and
Speaker 1: those services, So we will talk more about Ashley's complaint
Speaker 1: and then the litany of other lawsuits that Alex is
Speaker 1: dealing with right now. But first consumerism. We are back.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about some potential names for Alex
Speaker 1: Jones products that we we think might might sell really well.
Speaker 1: Like we know he does DNA force and iodine shield. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Vitamin B twelve assault and battery that's nice.
Speaker 1: And trespass yeah, yeah, potassium genocide that's the mic drop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we just discovered my new favorite improv game
Speaker 1: as like a warm up. So we were just talking
Speaker 1: about Ashley Lynn Beckford's pretty detailed complaint about sexual harassment
Speaker 1: and rampant racism at the infoler's office. She also alleges
Speaker 1: that the term quote black bitch was repeatedly used both
Speaker 1: by info Wars writers and articles, and if you google
Speaker 1: info Wars and those words, you will find a number
Speaker 1: of articles where that term comes up, usually referring to
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter activists, but she says that it was
Speaker 1: also used repeatedly in the office and used around her,
Speaker 1: specifically people trying to get a rise out of her
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Just to clarify, I'm sorry to interrupt so
Speaker 1: this term was used by actual paid writers and staff,
Speaker 1: not by just people dropping not on the forum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a number of paid writers and staff. There are a
Speaker 1: number of articles. She lists them in the complaint where
Speaker 1: the term fat black bitch was used in info Wars articles.
Speaker 1: Holy smokes. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad. She reported her
Speaker 1: coworkers for using this term in the office, but nothing
Speaker 1: was done. She says that guns were brandished on a
Speaker 1: daily basis. When she complained, her supervisor told her it
Speaker 1: was part of the company culture and advised her to
Speaker 1: quote keep her head down, which is good advice when
Speaker 1: a bunch of drunken men are waving guns around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: keep read. Do maybe buy some of that Alex Jones
Speaker 1: body armor. She he was told not to complain about
Speaker 1: things that made her uncomfortable, and Alex Jones, of course
Speaker 1: continued to hit on her. Here's another story of that quote.
Speaker 1: Alex Jones came to my desk on one occasion to
Speaker 1: find out what I like to do for fun outside
Speaker 1: of work. It's my opinion that it was his intention
Speaker 1: to see if he could groom me for sexual exploitation,
Speaker 1: because he also mentioned that I quote had a good
Speaker 1: body that looked like I worked out a lot. I
Speaker 1: was concerned that these unwanted sexual advances would eventually result
Speaker 1: in a request for sexual favors in exchange for promotions
Speaker 1: In the office, it was rumored that he may have
Speaker 1: had inappropriate relationships with other female production staff employees. In addition,
Speaker 1: Alex Jones himself has alluded to the fact that he
Speaker 1: loves to grab women's backsides and videos that he has
Speaker 1: made and uploaded to YouTube. Alex often spent time shirtless
Speaker 1: and endlessly leering with or without a shirt at female
Speaker 1: guests and employees, while creating a disgusting, hostile environment that
Speaker 1: openly encourages his staff to stare at and make inappropriate
Speaker 1: comments towards women. I definitely believe that he spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time shirtless in the office. I have no
Speaker 1: trouble whatsoever believing that Alex Jaron's was regularly shirtless, shirtless
Speaker 1: and leering. The Alex Jones story shirtless and leering and
Speaker 1: probably carrying a gun. Alex Jones the complaint is a
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable document. Again, I can't claim to know how
Speaker 1: accurate it all is, but she does claim on this
Speaker 1: official legal document that she has audio tapes of much
Speaker 1: of the harassment. Former info Wars video editor Rob Jacobson,
Speaker 1: who is Jewish and that's will be relevant in a minute,
Speaker 1: claims that he was discriminated against during his thirteen years
Speaker 1: working with Alex Jones. He says he was called the
Speaker 1: studios quote resident jew quote, the Jewish individual, and Jacobson,
Speaker 1: which I don't know why that's an anti Jewish thing,
Speaker 1: but anyway, you get the picture. A lot of anti
Speaker 1: Semitism at the Info Wars office. Rob says this about
Speaker 1: Alex Jones, quote my employer also inserted my face onto
Speaker 1: a photo of a Hasidic Jewish man and circulated that
Speaker 1: picture around the office. So holy ship. The idea that
Speaker 1: he's coding the term globalists and uses it to mean
Speaker 1: Jewish people seems pretty plausible when he really really does.
Speaker 1: The least surprising thing in the world would be that
Speaker 1: Alex Jones believes in a Jewish conspiracy. Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: not shock me at all, although I would actually be
Speaker 1: a little bit shocked. I go back and forth on
Speaker 1: this because part of me thinks he has never at
Speaker 1: least never that I've come up with. I've never run
Speaker 1: into him in a video making a very clear direct
Speaker 1: sort of reference to anti Semitism or a Jewish conspiracy,
Speaker 1: and part of me note wonders, does Alex Jones have
Speaker 1: the discipline if he really believes in this conspiracy two
Speaker 1: hide it that much? Maybe he like is anti Semitic
Speaker 1: enough to find some jokes about it funny, but really
Speaker 1: doesn't believe in a conspiracy, because if he did, I
Speaker 1: feel like it might have leaked out more. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I go back and forth and saying I don't think
Speaker 1: he's disciplined enough to keep it under wraps. He would just, like,
Speaker 1: you know, just poop out of his mouth and come
Speaker 1: out with some fucking like anti Semitic garbage. I think
Speaker 1: that if Alex Jones has believed this whole time in
Speaker 1: a giant Jewish global conspiracy, the most impressive thing about
Speaker 1: him is that he's been so disciplined enough to never
Speaker 1: be direct about it that that would almost be kind
Speaker 1: of impressive to me. Does he use uh the other
Speaker 1: dog whistle words like does he say Zionists and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I haven't run into that he's more pro
Speaker 1: Israel now that Trump's because he's he's become a lot
Speaker 1: more conservative, especially since Trump got into the White House.
Speaker 1: He used to be very critical of Israel, but it
Speaker 1: was always critical of Israeli foreign policy. And of course,
Speaker 1: obviously you don't have to be anti Semitic to have
Speaker 1: criticisms of Israel Um. And when I've listened to those videos,
Speaker 1: I have not run into anything where it sounds like
Speaker 1: he's an anti Semitic crank um. Other than that, it
Speaker 1: certainly seems like you could replace globalists with Jewish people
Speaker 1: in a rant and you would have a Nazi rand.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's Alex's intent or not.
Speaker 1: I really go back and forth on this, because if
Speaker 1: it is, he's hiding it. Well. Yeah, So here's another
Speaker 1: thing that could be possible. If the profile that we
Speaker 1: are painting of this dude is accurate to a high
Speaker 1: enough degree, then it's completely possible that he would be
Speaker 1: able to have a disciplined approach due to the bottom line,
Speaker 1: Because what we're really asking about here is the nature
Speaker 1: of belief. How much does he believe his own bullshit?
Speaker 1: And it may well be that he just performs the
Speaker 1: belief when he feels like it will help him in
Speaker 1: a situation. So maybe behind closed doors with employees, he's
Speaker 1: not quite straight out saying Jews, but he says you
Speaker 1: know them and like nods a little bit so you
Speaker 1: can hear the italics when he speaks. He also does
Speaker 1: hilarious photoshop jobs, you know, with Jewish employees. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's no question I have no I'm believing that whatsoever.
Speaker 1: But no, I think to your point, he probably does
Speaker 1: a better job of like holding that character when it
Speaker 1: suits him. But I do feel like in this part
Speaker 1: of the story, we're starting to see that unravel a
Speaker 1: little bit, and I think that's interesting and I want
Speaker 1: to I want to see more of that. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that is definitely the story of post Alex Jones, is
Speaker 1: him unraveling and the things that he's clearly kept in
Speaker 1: check and hidden to a degree over the years starting
Speaker 1: to fall apart. So, yeah, this is actually the point
Speaker 1: where we get to the piece to resistance of this episode,
Speaker 1: Alex Jones's custody hearing. Oh here would go wasting for
Speaker 1: this one, right. Yeah, And now, I never thought I
Speaker 1: would cover a custody hearing in in one of my episodes.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit even was hesitant to talk about
Speaker 1: this stuff just because everybody has a private life custody
Speaker 1: hearings are always ugly, but after everything I read about
Speaker 1: what happened in this hearing, you really can't get the
Speaker 1: whole story of Alex Jones without talking about this custody hearing.
Speaker 1: It is a critical moment in the study of jones oology.
Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about this custody be hearing.
Speaker 1: In two thousand seven, Kelly Rebecca Nichols married Alex Jones.
Speaker 1: So they got together when he was starting to be prominent,
Speaker 1: but before he was super rich. You know, that's like
Speaker 1: the year after he started the Info Wars store, but
Speaker 1: before he was starting in full War's life, which is
Speaker 1: when he really started to make money. So they split
Speaker 1: up in two thousand thirteen and divorced in two thousand fifteen,
Speaker 1: and they've been fighting over custody of their three children
Speaker 1: ever since. They had a big courtroom hearing in April
Speaker 1: of last year. Charlie Warzle of BuzzFeed was there. Here's
Speaker 1: how he opened his article about the fateful day that
Speaker 1: that started. Quote. Alex Jones's cross examination in his ten
Speaker 1: day custody trial began today with an unusual question. You
Speaker 1: haven't had any chili this morning? Have you, Mr Jones,
Speaker 1: Is that a serious question? Jones shot back, Now, that
Speaker 1: may seem weird to you, but that was a reference
Speaker 1: to something that had happened during Alex's deposition. In March
Speaker 1: of two thousand eighteen, Alex Jones, unofficial adviser to the President,
Speaker 1: self declared revolutionary, millionaire and forty three year old man,
Speaker 1: claimed that he couldn't remember the names of his children's
Speaker 1: teachers because he's eaten an enormous bowl of chili the
Speaker 1: night before. That was the argument of courtroom for why
Speaker 1: he couldn't remember the teachers of his children is he
Speaker 1: he was gassy? You know it? Did that does things
Speaker 1: to your Brainia. He was asked by the judge in
Speaker 1: a court of law if chili impacted his memory, and
Speaker 1: Alex Jones replied, big old bowl of chili, Sure does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which when I read the transcript, I can hear it
Speaker 1: in his voice. Really SAPs your memories the globalists in
Speaker 1: the chili It off comes the shirt. Yeah, well we're
Speaker 1: about to talk about that. Yeah. Although I will say
Speaker 1: one of the craziest things is that after fifty or
Speaker 1: six accumulative hours spent in Alex jones land, I don't
Speaker 1: know that he's lying about chili impacting his memory. He
Speaker 1: might be telling like that may just be the way
Speaker 1: Alex Jones works, as he ate so much chili and
Speaker 1: he forgot the names of his children's teachers, and then
Speaker 1: it was like, fucking like elk chili here, you know
Speaker 1: something super gamy. I think it if it was elk chili,
Speaker 1: it was an elk that he wrestled to the ground
Speaker 1: while hunting, naked in the woods and ripped its heart
Speaker 1: out and ate it like racky style. I mean, if
Speaker 1: I were wandering around in the woods of central Texas
Speaker 1: and I saw a naked Alex Jones run past me,
Speaker 1: chasing after a deer, I don't think I'd be surprised,
Speaker 1: and he'd be like, Okay, this is a piece of
Speaker 1: a puzzle, thank you. So it seems like over the
Speaker 1: course of this custody hearing, Alex and his wife have
Speaker 1: spent a combined at least four to five million dollars
Speaker 1: on legal fees, maybe more like ten million. His ex
Speaker 1: wife also already gets something like five dollars a year
Speaker 1: from him, So I don't believe that money is the
Speaker 1: thing at states in this custody hearing. It really does
Speaker 1: seem that his wife is legitimately worried for the kids
Speaker 1: who Alex had primary custody of during the you know,
Speaker 1: the time when this custody hearing started. Um, he got
Speaker 1: to pick where they lived full time, and she spent
Speaker 1: two and a half million dollars to try to get
Speaker 1: them out of his house, which I think is a
Speaker 1: sign of real concern on her part. She argued that
Speaker 1: Alex is an unstable monster trying to turn their children
Speaker 1: against her and inculcate them into being the heirs to
Speaker 1: his conspiracy empire. She claims also that Alex has been
Speaker 1: diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. Yeah, that's not a long walk.
Speaker 1: It's really not that surprising. I did learn that fact
Speaker 1: when I stumbled upon his wife's website. Do you want
Speaker 1: to guess what his wife's website is? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: is it a pun on info wars? It sure is, buddy,
Speaker 1: custody wars dot com. How is that not already taken?
Speaker 1: It's amazing genius. Yeah, um, so there are a ton
Speaker 1: of articles on custody wars dot com. I try not
Speaker 1: to use it as a major source for this episode,
Speaker 1: just because she has a very clear bias being you know,
Speaker 1: his ex wife finding him in a case. And I
Speaker 1: wanted to try to get as unbiased to sources as
Speaker 1: I could for the life of Alex Jones. But I
Speaker 1: had to look around it a little bit, and I
Speaker 1: had to click on an icle titled why did Kelly
Speaker 1: Moore mary Alex Jones? Because my god, I wanted to know.
Speaker 1: I was expecting a wild and salacious rant when I
Speaker 1: clicked on the article, and I was expecting her to
Speaker 1: be essentially the female version of Alex Jones, just you know,
Speaker 1: focused on hating Alex Jones rather than on hating the globalists.
Speaker 1: That's not what I found. Uh, it was a very
Speaker 1: reasonable article. She calls him a narcissist in it, but
Speaker 1: she also spends most of the article breaking down in
Speaker 1: a very rational way what narcissistic personality disorder is and
Speaker 1: how it's easy for someone to trap you without you
Speaker 1: really realizing at first about it. Actually, she doesn't seem
Speaker 1: crazy at all. Having read some of her website, I'm
Speaker 1: going to read a quote from that article. Sadly, Alex
Speaker 1: has been professionally diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder and Alex,
Speaker 1: like most narcissists, is good at pulling wool over people's eyes.
Speaker 1: Narcissists use a variety of verbal and emotional abuse in
Speaker 1: their relationships, including gas lighting and manipulation. Their abuses constant,
Speaker 1: and it wears you down to the point that you
Speaker 1: question things you think you know to be true and
Speaker 1: don't know which way is up. So it's like this,
Speaker 1: this checks out because this is how he treats his
Speaker 1: audience exactly. I was expecting, like creating a website custody
Speaker 1: wars dot com. She was married Alex Jones. First I
Speaker 1: was I was waiting for her to be a crazy person.
Speaker 1: She seems really reasonable. You can watch interviews with her
Speaker 1: that she's done for other journalists, and she's definitely media trained.
Speaker 1: She's very media savvy. She clearly has memorized a lot
Speaker 1: of different sort of speeches to go on because she
Speaker 1: but but she seems genuinely concerned for him and for
Speaker 1: their kids, and she definitely seems like the same person
Speaker 1: in the relationship. I'll say, how long were they married?
Speaker 1: Like seven years? They split up in two thousand and thirteen,
Speaker 1: married in two thousand seven, but divorced in Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he was he was still he was already batshitt Alex
Speaker 1: Jones by this point though, right was right around the
Speaker 1: pivot point. You know, she got with him right before
Speaker 1: the Obama election, which is really sort of oh wow,
Speaker 1: imagine learning that after you're married. Watching that transformation, I
Speaker 1: just hear the Curb your Enthusiasm music playing, you know. Well,
Speaker 1: but it was almost a little bit like the journey
Speaker 1: we've had in this podcast, because you remember when I
Speaker 1: played the first thing from him in the late nineties,
Speaker 1: you were like, he's he's fun. I kind of want
Speaker 1: to like see more of this guy. I want to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm just worn down, dude. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you see me right now, I'm just like the
Speaker 1: skin is hanging off my face right now. I'm so
Speaker 1: beat down by this whole this guy. Yeah, I wanna
Speaker 1: want to write a letter to him, a strongly worded letter. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all I like that, we're all going on the
Speaker 1: Kelly Jones journey right now. Like we can empathize with
Speaker 1: her a little bit because we started out at like,
Speaker 1: Alex Jones, this guy is fun. I'd like to have
Speaker 1: him at a party to like, oh my god. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: Kelly alleges that Alex Jones has been surveilling her since
Speaker 1: the divorce, and ironically enough, leaving cameras on her property
Speaker 1: in order to spy on her. She's found been documented
Speaker 1: at least one of these cameras. Now, Alex has a
Speaker 1: bodyguard who is a former Blackwater mercenary. Kelly alleges that
Speaker 1: Alex has had this mercenary essentially tracking her. This guy
Speaker 1: shows up with Alex in court. He's always whenever Alex
Speaker 1: is in public, there's this big bearded looking, fucking mercenary
Speaker 1: looking guy like he's got those I don't know, if
Speaker 1: you've spent a lot of time around really scary fucking people.
Speaker 1: He's got scary fucking person eyes. Um, he's got that.
Speaker 1: I've destroyed people looking his eyes. Ye Ye, he's a
Speaker 1: scary looking guy. And uh, I don't have any trouble
Speaker 1: believing that Alex has used him to intimidate his ex wife.
Speaker 1: That doesn't not a lot of a stretch, although again
Speaker 1: this is all unconfirmed. Now, Alex claims that his ex
Speaker 1: wife is unstable and emotionally unwell. H He has brought
Speaker 1: some therapists into court who have described her that way. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe she maybe she is, maybe she's
Speaker 1: got some stuff loose. I don't know the woman. She
Speaker 1: alleges that he bribed those therapists and I can't know
Speaker 1: what happen. And his ex wife says that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of corruption in the court system in Austin. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, it may just be that she's paranoid
Speaker 1: after being married to Alex Jones for years and years,
Speaker 1: which is entirely possible. And that's a specific genre of
Speaker 1: gas lighting that narcissists use, where they will accuse people
Speaker 1: of having the issues or behaviors that they themselves exhibit, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to the point where it can make that person feel
Speaker 1: is if they do have those sort of problems, Which
Speaker 1: is part of why people stay with narcissistic abusers, is
Speaker 1: that they can convince you that like you're the bad
Speaker 1: one and that you're the one doing fucked up stuff
Speaker 1: not only that, and only I can help you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's again, it's the same thing he does
Speaker 1: to his followers. It's bonkers to me the parallels here,
Speaker 1: only not at all. It makes absolute sense. Yeah he
Speaker 1: is well, no, he's not even consistent, but he's consistent
Speaker 1: in the tactics he uses, for sure. So Alex bought
Speaker 1: the best Texas lawyers that Texas money can buy. One
Speaker 1: of his attorneys for this custody battle was a former
Speaker 1: Texas State Supreme Court justice. Another came from an old
Speaker 1: Texas law family, so old that there are streets in
Speaker 1: Austin around the courthouse named after this guy's family. So
Speaker 1: he spent the big money on this ship. But even
Speaker 1: these men, these top dollar lawyers, were not able to
Speaker 1: restrain Alex Jones. Charlie Warzl from BuzzFeed, who watched the
Speaker 1: whole ship show, makes it sound like a pretty fun
Speaker 1: custody hearing quote. His frustration with the opposing legal team
Speaker 1: was theatrical and palpable. When irritated, which was often, he'd
Speaker 1: narrow his eyes into a piercing squint and sometimes point menacingly.
Speaker 1: Eventually he was ordered to switch chairs to be out
Speaker 1: of the attorney's eyeline. The judge admonished him at least
Speaker 1: a dozen times and out of the courtroom. Jones ignored
Speaker 1: a court gag order posting YouTube videos about the media's
Speaker 1: coverage of the case, even when he's spending millions of
Speaker 1: dollars on lawyers, he can't turn it off. It's remarkable.
Speaker 1: So when we come back, we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: how shirtlessness played a role in the Alex Jones custody hearing,
Speaker 1: because you better bet shirtlessness played a role in his
Speaker 1: court battles. Because if there's one thing that we know
Speaker 1: for sure about Alex Jones, it's that the only thing
Speaker 1: he hates more than globalists is his own shirt. So
Speaker 1: all that and more after we sell you some products
Speaker 1: and uh services, and we're back and we're talking about
Speaker 1: Alex Jones and his epic court battle with his ex
Speaker 1: wife Kelly. So yeah. At the start of the testimony,
Speaker 1: Jones's lawyers claimed that he was a performance artist and
Speaker 1: compared him to John Stewart. This was because a major
Speaker 1: chunk of his wife's case rested on the unhinged and
Speaker 1: often threatening content of his videos. On the second day
Speaker 1: of the trial, Jones in the entire courtroom watched a
Speaker 1: video of him wearing only his underwear selling male vitality supplements. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a pretty special video. They also played a video
Speaker 1: from two thousand sixteen with a title Alex Jones takes
Speaker 1: off his clothes for the FBI and that's the title
Speaker 1: Alex Jones gave the video. This video includes several minutes
Speaker 1: of Alex Jones ranting about you and carbon taxes and
Speaker 1: Amazon end user license agreements. Then he talks about how
Speaker 1: your webcam is watching you, which sure maybe probably sometimes.
Speaker 1: Alex rants about biometrics and the increasing dehumanization of modernity
Speaker 1: and claims, quote, once they've got you cashless, they've got everything,
Speaker 1: and they're going to take your humanity down to the
Speaker 1: bone and blow it away. Then ten minutes and forty
Speaker 1: seconds into this shirtless video Alex Jones made for the FBI,
Speaker 1: he starts to strip and we're gonna play that clip here.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just going to take my shirt off. Hey,
Speaker 1: you will notice I've lost even more way, but a
Speaker 1: slow process and forwards life dot Com. We've got the
Speaker 1: great DNA force back in stop. We've got the great
Speaker 1: supermail about Cally back in stop. I'll tell you the
Speaker 1: same amount of exercises I ever did, but taking the
Speaker 1: great things that Mother Nature has created and concentrating on
Speaker 1: much super mevitality has really helped me louse. As you
Speaker 1: can see right here now Again, I was not this
Speaker 1: tonight I have lost a lot of wight if you
Speaker 1: compare this to past video. So while we're here with
Speaker 1: government looking on our surf history, looking at what emails
Speaker 1: we send, Google reading your emails, suicide, sat factories, murdering people, death,
Speaker 1: forced abortion, baby parts being sold. Oh, but I'm so dehumanized.
Speaker 1: I'm in my underwear. Isn't it pathetic? I just have
Speaker 1: no doubt that he's on stimulants, right, he has to be.
Speaker 1: I mean he's yeah, he's like you know, poppin Benny's
Speaker 1: at the very least, is something good. Lord. I think
Speaker 1: there's a logic to it where he's narcissistic enough to
Speaker 1: be thinking, better take my shirt off because sex cells.
Speaker 1: You know, he might think people are attracted to it.
Speaker 1: And I I I love that in this video that
Speaker 1: he has made for the FBI, he's selling supplement stuff.
Speaker 1: That's such commitment. I just think we're seeing a man
Speaker 1: in full tail spin. He's still incorporating some of his
Speaker 1: old tricks as he breaks down in the public eye.
Speaker 1: Like he's like he's so married to this idea of
Speaker 1: like cell cell cell, and like that's the only reason
Speaker 1: that any of the stuff exists, because he doesn't really
Speaker 1: believe any of it. I don't know that he just
Speaker 1: can't not do it. But yet he's having a breakdown
Speaker 1: on YouTube and still manages to throw to the fucking
Speaker 1: ad he needs help. You know, maybe it's like a
Speaker 1: muscle memory at this point. You know, it's reflexive. And
Speaker 1: I really do wonder because I I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: of allegations that he's an alcoholic. He will, you will
Speaker 1: run into people around him. He definitely drinks, and sometimes
Speaker 1: because he's been drunk on his show and on videos
Speaker 1: he's posted a number of times. So it's possible that
Speaker 1: he's a problem drinker. It's possibly as another drug problem.
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, I do wonder how much
Speaker 1: of his degeneration is just the fact that he's been
Speaker 1: fucking taking a shipload of meth or whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: know what, But like you, you watch some of these
Speaker 1: videos and it's like, if he's sober during this, which
Speaker 1: he does claim to be sober in that shirtless wandering
Speaker 1: around in the winter video, if he's sober, there's something
Speaker 1: profound going on in him. I mean, if there was
Speaker 1: a video of me behaving this way on the internet,
Speaker 1: like I would not want that out in the world.
Speaker 1: Oh good God, no, thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in the courtroom, because they played that video for
Speaker 1: the court, um, it was one of the few videos
Speaker 1: the judge allowed to be played. And I should note
Speaker 1: that after the point at which we stopped, he continues
Speaker 1: standing around in his underwear and ranting for five more minutes.
Speaker 1: Bobby Newman, a lawyer for Kelly Jones, stated to the
Speaker 1: court afterwards, he just takes his clothes off, and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess that was the way that he expressed
Speaker 1: that I only have it type, but I'm gonna guess
Speaker 1: it's he just stay his clothes off. That's that's Alex Jones.
Speaker 1: That's what he did. I just picture the people like
Speaker 1: staying up late into the night agonizing about how to
Speaker 1: justify this, or like going through various pieces of jurisprudence
Speaker 1: and then just saying, you know what, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to lose this battle if we want to win this war. So,
Speaker 1: psychologist Alyssa Sherry, who was the case manager for the
Speaker 1: Jones divorce, confirmed in court that Alex Jones has been
Speaker 1: diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. So this is not an allegation, uh.
Speaker 1: She says that he has sought help for it. She
Speaker 1: also says that she has seen Alex remove his shirt
Speaker 1: in front of his children during a therapy session. She
Speaker 1: quote didn't remember the context in which he stripped, but
Speaker 1: noted that it was quote a rare thing to happen
Speaker 1: in a therapy session, which would I would say, So
Speaker 1: that's that's that's reasonable thing to say. Maybe he's going
Speaker 1: crazy because we keep asking him to wear clothes, like,
Speaker 1: maybe there's some sort of he's he's trying to let
Speaker 1: the sanity into his pores and that's why he keeps
Speaker 1: stripping when the crazy hits hardest. Oh god, yeah, maybe maybe,
Speaker 1: maybe so. Jones's ex wife's lawyers accused him of being
Speaker 1: as crazy off camera as he is on camera. They
Speaker 1: also accused him of trying to turn his children against
Speaker 1: their mother and alleged that he quote intends to unmesh
Speaker 1: the children in his business. Jones in return, testified that
Speaker 1: his fourteen year old son has quote done some great
Speaker 1: reports for us. So we're gonna listen to one of
Speaker 1: those reports that his child has done. It's titled Alex
Speaker 1: Jones's Son Challenges David Hogg to a gun debate. So
Speaker 1: clearly Alex wanted to attack the Parkland kids, in particularly
Speaker 1: David Hogg, but knew that forty four year old, shirtless
Speaker 1: Alex Jones ranting to go children would not play well,
Speaker 1: so he had his own teenager do a video. We're
Speaker 1: going to play a small selection from that because it
Speaker 1: is pretty embarrassing. It is admitted they want to distrom
Speaker 1: the American people, just as they have done with so
Speaker 1: many rough regimes in the past. Hitler, stalin Mouth, North Korea.
Speaker 1: Do you think those places Do you think those corrupt
Speaker 1: leaders allowed their citizens to have guns? Do you think
Speaker 1: that the Jews were able to protect themselves when Hitler
Speaker 1: put them in concentration camps? No, they were disarmed and
Speaker 1: that's why they were enslaved. Really, first of all, he's
Speaker 1: doing the Alex Jones voice already. Yeah, yeah, And he
Speaker 1: looks and he's got like he's got this just staring
Speaker 1: into the void look on his face. This like indoctrinated
Speaker 1: look at his face. It looks like very chilling looking
Speaker 1: a fundamentalist kid who has been stuck at camp for
Speaker 1: too long, you know what I mean, Like there's a
Speaker 1: there's a parenting quality. Yeah, and I have no reason
Speaker 1: to question his wife when she's worries for her son,
Speaker 1: because I'm worried for that kid. A fourteen year old
Speaker 1: should not be looking like that, or talking like that,
Speaker 1: or be put on a camera in front of millions
Speaker 1: of people saying those things. He's fourteen. It's just gross.
Speaker 1: It's really really gross and scary. So you might have
Speaker 1: expected Alex Jones to be on his best behavior during
Speaker 1: the epic court battle over his children's custody. You know,
Speaker 1: if someone's legal case rest entirely on the claim that
Speaker 1: they're just an actor playing a crazy guy and not
Speaker 1: really crazy themselves, maybe that person shouldn't do crazy, unhinged
Speaker 1: things in the middle of their court case. That would
Speaker 1: make sense, right, like good logic, solid strategy. Right. Alex
Speaker 1: Jones took a different tact. Midway through the trial. He
Speaker 1: published a video on Info Wars Live titled Alex Jones
Speaker 1: responds to Sandy Hook Vampire. Sadly, this video appears to
Speaker 1: have been scrubbed from the Internet, so I'm going to
Speaker 1: read Rolling Stones summary of what it included. Instead of
Speaker 1: ranting about unanswered questions around the mass shooting, he showed
Speaker 1: scenes from the nineteen seventy three American science fiction movies
Speaker 1: Soilent Green, and talked about his teenage sex life. So
Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, oh wow, Yeah, So I have
Speaker 1: a question. They said that he might be a problem
Speaker 1: drinker and spend a lot of time on camera or
Speaker 1: in public inebriated. Was there anything Did you see anything
Speaker 1: about him possibly being drunk or inebriated during the trial
Speaker 1: or during the hearing. Rather, I did not run into
Speaker 1: any evidence of that. I think it's entirely possible, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. Certainly, I haven't read read anyone alleging
Speaker 1: that he was drunk during the trial. They didn't play
Speaker 1: a video during the trial of a drunk Alex Jones
Speaker 1: talking about his desire to piss on a tree. And
Speaker 1: I'll defend him on that because I've spent there. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of my life drunk and paying
Speaker 1: on trees. And it's a noble, noble way to spend
Speaker 1: your time. Yeah, just don't get caught. Don't get caught,
Speaker 1: or do it in the woods where it's fine to
Speaker 1: pay on everything. That's the joy of the woods, which
Speaker 1: is why I think Alex is drawn to the woods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at least crazy thing about him. Okay. So at one
Speaker 1: point during the trial, Kelly Jones took the stand and
Speaker 1: laid out her accusations against her ex husband. She claimed
Speaker 1: that Alex was a quote angry, volatile, hateful person who
Speaker 1: regularly went on racist, homophobic, and anti women rants. She
Speaker 1: also said that their children had begun to pair it
Speaker 1: his beliefs. She said that she heard her fourteen year
Speaker 1: old son say I hate women, and their twelve year
Speaker 1: old daughters say women shouldn't be judges. Kelly warned presumably
Speaker 1: the entire world that quote they are morphing into him. Yes,
Speaker 1: but that that is so evident, and that click you played,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it looks like a little mini
Speaker 1: Alex Jones. It's he's trained a second one, which means that,
Speaker 1: like our fucking grandkids, will probably be dealing with a
Speaker 1: crazy person last named Joan Shirtless on Info Wars screaming
Speaker 1: about the globalists, or maybe not, depending on how the
Speaker 1: as this podcast, I will see um. But yeah, that
Speaker 1: scares the hell out of me. The idea that this
Speaker 1: man is allowed to influence the lives of children is horrifying.
Speaker 1: It's just more apparent though with his own children, because
Speaker 1: he's able to legally exert you know, physical influence over there.
Speaker 1: But I think this leads to a larger quat gien
Speaker 1: which is difficult to answer. How many other children are
Speaker 1: being influenced? And it's not as if it's difficult for
Speaker 1: a twelve year old to find him on YouTube? No,
Speaker 1: And in fact, when I was a young teenage, like fifteen,
Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen, I ran into Alex Jones stuff on
Speaker 1: the Internet all the time and thought it was like
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny, but I watched a bunch
Speaker 1: of his stuff as a kid, um, and who knows.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think that the globalists are poisoning
Speaker 1: our water and that the only way to get rid
Speaker 1: of the toxins that they put into our water is
Speaker 1: to buy the new Bastard's pod. I had nine shield
Speaker 1: protection potion, which again I will mail you if you
Speaker 1: pay pal Me forty three dollars it'll it'll come in
Speaker 1: a brown envelope. That's just just a pile of pills,
Speaker 1: you know what I am sold. Yes, PayPal Me money
Speaker 1: and I will mail you pills. And okay, let's get
Speaker 1: back to Alex Jones Jones's ex wife, Kelly, complained that
Speaker 1: the public and controversial nature of her husband's work put
Speaker 1: she in her children in danger. She brought up a
Speaker 1: tweeted death threat Alex received in April of two thousand seventeen,
Speaker 1: which had threatened death to Alex, his children, and Info
Speaker 1: Wars staff. So yeah. She basically claimed that because he's
Speaker 1: so prominent and so controversial in involving their children, that
Speaker 1: he's putting them in danger, which again seems fair. Uh.
Speaker 1: In the end, the court seems to have sided with her.
Speaker 1: The couple remained joint managing conservators, so neither of them
Speaker 1: has full custody, but his wife gained the ability to
Speaker 1: designate the primary residence of the children, which is a
Speaker 1: big win and i this will continue to be relitigated.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they will be back in court numerous times
Speaker 1: before their kids are eighteen. So the last year and
Speaker 1: a half or so of Alex's life has, as you
Speaker 1: probably guess by now, involved a lot of courtroom time.
Speaker 1: Alex was actually sued in the middle of his custody
Speaker 1: hearing by Chobani Yogurt of all people, because on April tenth,
Speaker 1: while in the middle of his trial, Alex published a
Speaker 1: video titled Idaho Yogurt Maker Caught Importing Migrant Rapists. The
Speaker 1: video itself is pretty boring. It starts two of Jones's
Speaker 1: lackeys rather than Alex himself. The video basically connects Chobani
Speaker 1: to a rape committed by some refugees and then spirals
Speaker 1: into an incoherent rant. Jones doesn't show up until the
Speaker 1: end when he comes in to deliver a special report which,
Speaker 1: rather than being about refugees, is about iodine, which he sells.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna listen to a little bit of that.
Speaker 1: Off your family a favor and check out the importance
Speaker 1: of iodine for yourself. I think you're gonna be blown away,
Speaker 1: and whatever you do, support the broadcast to get a
Speaker 1: bottle of survival shield Nason on on X two. Also
Speaker 1: consult your physician because have you been deficient in it
Speaker 1: or have other issues. It can maps dramatic effects. As
Speaker 1: for me and most folks I talked to, it's been
Speaker 1: a game changer in the positive column. But still consult
Speaker 1: your physician because iodine is no joke, because a key
Speaker 1: building block of the body, and if you haven't had
Speaker 1: it for a long time and suddenly have it. Some
Speaker 1: folks say they've experienced things like a detoxing effect and
Speaker 1: things like that. You've got to have bottom. And so
Speaker 1: this is what he appends to the end of a
Speaker 1: video accusing Chobani of importing rapists to the United States.
Speaker 1: Chobani sued him, and again they sued him while he
Speaker 1: was in the middle of the custody hearing with his
Speaker 1: wife his ex wife, Um, when you showed us this video.
Speaker 1: One thing that really sticks out to me is that
Speaker 1: from an editing perspective, it looks like a hastily arranged
Speaker 1: voiceover with just clips playing like it flashed. The two
Speaker 1: shots of him at the news desk, I guess at
Speaker 1: the war's news desk, but he's it's clearly from an
Speaker 1: earlier recording. So did he really just record a video
Speaker 1: for iodine? Yeah? I think he recorded, because that's how
Speaker 1: he does. It is like they're doing this other report
Speaker 1: that's supposedly a news story about the dangerous refugees Chobani
Speaker 1: is bringing into the United States, and then Alex makes
Speaker 1: it look like he's delivering breaking news, but instead of
Speaker 1: he's just trying to sell you iodine. Oh wow. Remarkable.
Speaker 1: So after Chabanni sued Alex. He immediately put out another video,
Speaker 1: laughing at the company for daring to come after him. Uh.
Speaker 1: He claimed that he could back up all of the
Speaker 1: claims that he had made about rapes and TV beings
Speaker 1: bread by Chobani's refugee workers. But then in May he
Speaker 1: settled out of court with Chabani, paying them an undisclosed
Speaker 1: sum and releasing this sweet, sweet dose of schadenfreude. And
Speaker 1: I'm overwhelmingly happy to present to all of you Alex
Speaker 1: Jones apologizing to Chobani Yogurt on the infull Wars twitter
Speaker 1: feed and YouTube channel regarding Shabani LLC that I now
Speaker 1: understand to be wrong. The tweets and video have now
Speaker 1: been retracted and will not be reposted on half of
Speaker 1: the full Wars. I regret that we miss Church Rise,
Speaker 1: Shabani It's employees, and the people of Twin Falls, Ottaho
Speaker 1: the way we did well. Like that he's got he's
Speaker 1: got a shirt on, he's got a shirt on, he's
Speaker 1: reading copy. Clearly he I wonder how much money they
Speaker 1: pulled out of his hide and how much money less
Speaker 1: he had to pay as a result of apologizing publicly,
Speaker 1: but it's very It was a very clearly legally man Yeah,
Speaker 1: really a legal mandated apology just screaming. It sounds like
Speaker 1: his legal team probably also negotiated the language of the apology.
Speaker 1: That's why I had to be explicit. And I bet
Speaker 1: he fought them for a while on whether or not
Speaker 1: he was going to wear a shirt during that. But
Speaker 1: oh yeah, He's like, look, I'll do it, but I
Speaker 1: gotta be greased up. Yeah, I want to get real
Speaker 1: greasy in my underwear. Can I strip while I apologize?
Speaker 1: Can I sell iodine shield while I am apologizing? I
Speaker 1: am shocked that there was no ad for Info Wars
Speaker 1: Life in that apology to Chabani, you would expect, right, Okay, No,
Speaker 1: you absolutely would. I especially don't make these sorts of
Speaker 1: errors in my reporting. But I haven't been taking my
Speaker 1: supplements and it's making me crazy. I've just been eaten chili.
Speaker 1: On April seventeen, two thousand and eighteen, the families of
Speaker 1: several children who died in the Sandy Hook attack, including
Speaker 1: Lenny Postner and Veronica his ex wife, sued Alex Jones
Speaker 1: for more than a million dollars. Now we've already talked
Speaker 1: about in our last podcast, Veronica and Lenny. Another parent
Speaker 1: last named Hesslin, was also part of this lawsuit because
Speaker 1: Info Wars Alex Jones claimed that he was lying about
Speaker 1: seeing a bullet hole in his child's head. Alex actually
Speaker 1: did a whole special report where they like attempted to
Speaker 1: prove that he couldn't have seen his child's dead body. Which, yeah,
Speaker 1: so these people all joined together in a big old
Speaker 1: lawsuit against Info Wars. The suit on behalf of the
Speaker 1: Sandy Hook families came at the same time as another
Speaker 1: defamation suit. Marcel Fontaine sued Alex Jones for one million
Speaker 1: dollars because Alex had used his image on air and
Speaker 1: claimed that he was the Parkland shooter. He didn't even
Speaker 1: live in the state. I don't know if he'd ever
Speaker 1: even been to Florida. So two defamation suits drop at
Speaker 1: the same time, both for a million dollars, and in August,
Speaker 1: six more Sandy Hook families joined the lawsuit against August.
Speaker 1: I think there's nine families currently suing him for his
Speaker 1: role in perpetuating that particular conspiracy theory and court lawyers
Speaker 1: for the Sandy Hook families played an episode of Info
Speaker 1: Wars where Alex Jones broadcast maps to the Posner home
Speaker 1: using audible gasps from the jury. So Alex actually doxed
Speaker 1: people like claimed that they had faked their child's murder,
Speaker 1: and then told his viewers how to find their home.
Speaker 1: Alex's lawyer argued that this did not count as defamation.
Speaker 1: Quote what does it count as well? You're sorry, Alex's lawyer.
Speaker 1: I'm on the edge of my seat here, man. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's fringe speech, maybe it's dangerous speech, but it's not defamation.
Speaker 1: That is rhetoric hyperbole at its core. O. Come then,
Speaker 1: I do imagine that as like the country lawyer. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's fringe speech, maybe it's dangerous speech, but defamation declare
Speaker 1: there is rhetorical hyperbole at its core, rhetorical hyperbole. Here's
Speaker 1: a video of Alex Jones talking about the Sandy Hook parents.
Speaker 1: Y'all tell me if you think this seems like defamation.
Speaker 1: Billy off and watched him go around the corner and
Speaker 1: he never came back, all because of the guns. Won't
Speaker 1: you just turn your guns in from my son? Why
Speaker 1: did you do it to him? Gun? Own this listen,
Speaker 1: I didn't kill your kids. The truth is they've had
Speaker 1: national polls were upwards of half of Americans don't believe
Speaker 1: Sandy Hook because they don't believe a word the mainstream
Speaker 1: media says, we've sent reporters up there, man, and that
Speaker 1: place is like children in the corner or something. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is freaking weird. And then the weird videos of
Speaker 1: reported parents of kids laughing, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they do the high preventilating to cry, to go on TV.
Speaker 1: All I know is something's going on, and you don't
Speaker 1: like us looking at it. You don't like us questioning
Speaker 1: you the father, He's to clarified that n b C.
Speaker 1: He's to clarified, clarify because the corner said none of
Speaker 1: the parents were allowed to touch the kids or see
Speaker 1: the kids, and maybe they meaning at the school. I'm
Speaker 1: sure later maybe the parents saw their children. So um
Speaker 1: Alex will claim and still claims that he never accused
Speaker 1: the families of faking their children's deaths. You can see
Speaker 1: where he has a legal leg to stand on there,
Speaker 1: because he said study show upwards of half Americans don't
Speaker 1: believe anything happened at San Diego because they don't believe
Speaker 1: the mainstream media. But then he immediately goes into talking
Speaker 1: about what we've sent reporters up there, and it seems
Speaker 1: it's spooky. It seems like a ghost town. Like I
Speaker 1: would say that that meets my personal threshold for defamation
Speaker 1: of these families for for damn sure. Um. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the law is gonna wind up saying, but
Speaker 1: it seems pretty defamatory to me. So this is still
Speaker 1: in motion. This is still being adjudicated. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: still in motion. It is still going on. Jones's lawyers
Speaker 1: at one point asked the judge to throw out the
Speaker 1: case and tried to sue Ronick and Lenny for a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in court fees. Now, Alex did rescind
Speaker 1: that attempt to get them to pay his court fees,
Speaker 1: and he, in an interview with a journalist, was very
Speaker 1: angry that the news has not reported more on the
Speaker 1: fact that he decided not to countersue the families that
Speaker 1: he defamed. His lawyer's request to have the case thrown
Speaker 1: out was denied in August, So we're still waiting to
Speaker 1: see where all of these cards are gonna fall. I
Speaker 1: know of at least three defamation cases going on against
Speaker 1: Alex Jones right now, though, so he is concurrently involved
Speaker 1: in at least three defamation suits. It might be more
Speaker 1: like five. Like a lot of people are suing him
Speaker 1: right now. Um and whatever these cases wind up costing him,
Speaker 1: if anything, you know, he might win, but that cost
Speaker 1: will be in addition to the millions of dollars he's
Speaker 1: spent on custody battles with his wife. I assume he's
Speaker 1: spending millions of dollars in all of these lawsuits. I
Speaker 1: don't know what he paid to Chibani, or if he
Speaker 1: paid them, but I think it's fairly safe to say
Speaker 1: that Alex Jones is hemorrhage in cash right now, as
Speaker 1: is his Info Wars operation. Like he is. He's hired
Speaker 1: top dollar lawyers, and he's involved this is I think
Speaker 1: like something seven or eight different lawsuits this year, Like
Speaker 1: that is enough to drain even a very rich man,
Speaker 1: which Alex is. All of which makes this a very
Speaker 1: bad time for him to suddenly get cut off from
Speaker 1: every single major social media platform. Over the course of August,
Speaker 1: he was banned by Facebook and YouTube, and the iTunes
Speaker 1: app store, among other platforms. The bands caused an initial
Speaker 1: surge in traffic to infull Wars as people flocked there
Speaker 1: to see Jones's increasingly unhinged reactions to the banning. This
Speaker 1: caused him to celebrate and say, quote, the more I
Speaker 1: am persecuted, the stronger I get. It backfired. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be true. Here's what The New York
Speaker 1: Times wrote on September four, two thousand eighteen. In the
Speaker 1: three weeks before the August six bands in full Wars
Speaker 1: had an daily average of nearly one point four million
Speaker 1: visits to its website and views of videos posted by
Speaker 1: its main YouTube and Facebook pages. But quote, in the
Speaker 1: three months afterward, its audience fell by roughly half to
Speaker 1: about seven hundred and fifteen thousand site visits and video views,
Speaker 1: according to the analysis. So it's possible that his traffic
Speaker 1: is down by half or more than half right now. Um,
Speaker 1: Because on September five, while lawmakers talked to Jack Dorsey,
Speaker 1: the head of Twitter, Alex Jones showed up in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. His cunning plan end was to scream at everybody,
Speaker 1: including Jack Dorsey, the man who had, by some accounts,
Speaker 1: personally intervened to stop him from being banned by Twitter.
Speaker 1: Alex yelled at a lot of people during that trip, though,
Speaker 1: and one of those people was CNNs Oliver Darcy. Now,
Speaker 1: Darcy had documented all of the ways Alex Jones and
Speaker 1: info Wars had violated YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter's codes of conduct. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was a big part of the fact that Alex
Speaker 1: had been d platformed by everyone but Twitter. At this point,
Speaker 1: info Wars calls Darcy quote the architect of d platform
Speaker 1: and conservatives. Jones confronted Darcy during his DC tripped and
Speaker 1: streamed the whole encounter on periscope, which is owned by Twitter.
Speaker 1: Here is just a clip of that so you can
Speaker 1: get an idea of what was going on here, the
Speaker 1: decisions for the mess because you don't even respond, because
Speaker 1: we're just scum. You have him with no viewers, no followers.
Speaker 1: Everyone can't stand you, no matter you could shut everyone
Speaker 1: down on earth. No one will like you. You understand
Speaker 1: that he'll never have builties of relatiers, of fans and followers.
Speaker 1: You'll never have people that love you. Do you have
Speaker 1: any else you're like you? You don't. You are a
Speaker 1: dishonorable liar who would never even dare have me on
Speaker 1: your little tiny shows when you instilledor called me a virus.
Speaker 1: You are a virus to America and freedom. You are authoritarianism.
Speaker 1: Just look in those eyes. What I wanna? I really
Speaker 1: want to throw some props Darcy's way, because there are
Speaker 1: other videos you can find, even from DC of him
Speaker 1: arguing with people on the street. A couple of women
Speaker 1: confront him at one point and they get into a
Speaker 1: screaming argument with him, and they do the wrong thing,
Speaker 1: which is engaged with him. Because Alex's thing, whenever he's
Speaker 1: in person, he's going to throw out as many different,
Speaker 1: very specific accusations as possible because that's the way his
Speaker 1: mind works. Because then you're going to lose. If you
Speaker 1: try to address one thing, he's going to attack you
Speaker 1: for not addressing the other things. If you try to
Speaker 1: address everything, he's just gonna keep throwing more stuff at
Speaker 1: you until you don't have a response, which makes it
Speaker 1: look like you've lost. Darcy just doesn't say anything until
Speaker 1: there's a break and when he and then he will
Speaker 1: just say something like do you have anything else to say?
Speaker 1: Alex always good to see you, Alex like he really
Speaker 1: understands this guy and how to defying him. Um, And
Speaker 1: it turns out that that rant against Darcy was well,
Speaker 1: it's debatable. Some people will say that the fact that
Speaker 1: he yelled at Jack Dorsey is why Dorsey pulled him
Speaker 1: from Twitter. The official reason that Jones got pulled from
Speaker 1: Twitter is because what he did to Oliver Darcy on
Speaker 1: periscope was abusive and bullying and in violation of Twitter's
Speaker 1: rules of conduct. So Alex Jones was banned from Twitter
Speaker 1: the very next day. Uh. It is impossible to know
Speaker 1: where the future will take Alex Jones and Info Wars,
Speaker 1: but I do think it's important for posterity's sake that
Speaker 1: we take a look at how he reacted to the
Speaker 1: fact that he has now been thoroughly d platformed from
Speaker 1: polite digital society. Here's a clip from his first post
Speaker 1: ban episode. He starts the clip wearing a donkey mask,
Speaker 1: which he rips off to reveal the reptilian mask underneath.
Speaker 1: So he's wearing two masks at the start of this video. H.
Speaker 1: That's just beautiful. H It's a long clip, but my god,
Speaker 1: it's full of stars and we we just have to
Speaker 1: play it. But no one's going to see that broadcast.
Speaker 1: Alex Jones you today because it's been deleted, and you
Speaker 1: see you've learned and you've learned very very well that
Speaker 1: only the Internet matters, not UHF, not VHF, nothing, Only
Speaker 1: our control matters. And so now you're being taught to submit.
Speaker 1: So let me tell you about Operations six six Sixation
Speaker 1: six six is a fake donkey head on the whole
Speaker 1: Aloration freed, she Destroyal I'm just a donkey on the
Speaker 1: sixth obviously banded four wars from twenty seven platforms, and
Speaker 1: now September six we band you from Twitter, and on
Speaker 1: October six, we will destroy your president and set fire
Speaker 1: to every major US city and have our communist forces
Speaker 1: launched our attack while Silicon Valley sits in their bunkers
Speaker 1: in the middle of the Pacific Ocean in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: Operation six six six the number of the Beast hell
Speaker 1: and fire raining free. Soon the West Room fall. One
Speaker 1: eight billion Islamis has trained in Satanism are ready to
Speaker 1: invade the China system road span. The Third World will
Speaker 1: collapse into Europe and America domination will be complete. I
Speaker 1: was wrong. That's not the video where he rips off
Speaker 1: his donkey masks to reveal an alien mask. That is
Speaker 1: a different video where he wears a job. There's just
Speaker 1: so many. I love this though, because first off, that's
Speaker 1: quality entertainment. That is quality entertainment. He's nothing if not
Speaker 1: a showman. That's that's damna. And the way he's moving
Speaker 1: around and being so arch with his statements really reminds
Speaker 1: me of um villains from old cartoons like Cobra Commander
Speaker 1: or um. But there's a yeah exactly, Yeah, there is
Speaker 1: a strong Cobra Commander vibe to Alex Jones in that
Speaker 1: video that is like he has gone off of the
Speaker 1: deep end and is digging his own swimming pool now,
Speaker 1: like it's yeah, for sure. Something else. I love that
Speaker 1: line one point three billion Islamist trained in Satanism are
Speaker 1: on the border or something like that, because they were like,
Speaker 1: we need as many as Lamis as as we can get,
Speaker 1: but make sure they're trained in Satanism. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: have asked this one, although that's almost woke for Alex
Speaker 1: Jones because he is claiming that they have to be
Speaker 1: trained in the Satanism, which you know, for Alex Jones
Speaker 1: that's progressive. So maybe he's turned a corner. No, no, so,
Speaker 1: do we have any idea what's going to happen to
Speaker 1: this guy? No idea Um, it's still too soon after
Speaker 1: the bands to know what kind of financial impact there's
Speaker 1: going to really be for the fact that he's been
Speaker 1: DP platformed, so over the next couple of months, I'm
Speaker 1: sure a lot of people will be watching to see
Speaker 1: what happens to his traffic, you know, what happens to
Speaker 1: the spread of his ideas. I did watch his most
Speaker 1: recent big broadcast, and he makes a big point of
Speaker 1: like there's a video out right now. The Daily Wire
Speaker 1: posted it first, but then Jones grabbed it of like
Speaker 1: this rancher put up a camera on his land for
Speaker 1: like two and a half years and he filmed people
Speaker 1: crossing the border, and so like Alex has turned like
Speaker 1: an army is crossing the boy. Yeah, but he he
Speaker 1: makes polls to like put this on your Twitter page.
Speaker 1: You know, we can't tweet this, but you can, is
Speaker 1: what he says. And I suspect we're going to see
Speaker 1: a lot of that as him being like I can't
Speaker 1: put this on Facebook, but you can. Um, So yeah
Speaker 1: to action. Yeah, He's going to keep trying, even if
Speaker 1: he has to go back to being the guy, you know,
Speaker 1: attacking Heraldo Rivera and screaming on a bullhorn. While someone
Speaker 1: else broadcast. I don't think he's going to stop doing
Speaker 1: what he's done his entire adult life at this point. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: was that DC trip the same trip wherein he accosted
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, No, it was the same trip. He said
Speaker 1: he had a busy day. So Alex Jones, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all I got for you, guys. What did you
Speaker 1: have you learned? I'm exhausted, Robert, that was that was
Speaker 1: a it was a wild ride you just took us on.
Speaker 1: And that was the first of all. This is the
Speaker 1: single most hours of podcasting I think either one of
Speaker 1: us have done in a single day. Yeah, but um,
Speaker 1: I gotta get a donkey mask. Yeah, we all need
Speaker 1: donkey masks. I think that's fair. I feel that insane
Speaker 1: right now that I would totally wear a donkey mask
Speaker 1: for the rest of the night, just like you know,
Speaker 1: just out around the town, but with a shirt on.
Speaker 1: And would people ask what it's for, Just say operations
Speaker 1: six City six six run cackling. Then you can rip
Speaker 1: your shirt off and run cackling into the night and
Speaker 1: have a nice night bath. I need one of those
Speaker 1: Hulkyogan like Haraway shirts that's like made of like orth.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised he doesn't have one of those. You'd think
Speaker 1: he'd have a closet full of them by now. Man,
Speaker 1: he's very he's very restrained when he's stripping for the FBI.
Speaker 1: You know that is the most restrained stripping for the
Speaker 1: FBI I've ever seen. For sure. I think he's trying
Speaker 1: to make it a little erotic. Well, Robert, thank you
Speaker 1: for breaking our brains and having us on your bonkers
Speaker 1: three part series on Alex Jones. Well, yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: for letting us do this. Man, Well, thank you both
Speaker 1: for enduring this with me, and thank you listeners for
Speaker 1: enduring this with us. Although you've taken these I hope
Speaker 1: three days apart from each other, as opposed to all
Speaker 1: at once, which is a lot of Alex Jones to take. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need, I need all the drinks. Yeah, Like now
Speaker 1: I'm going to drink heavily and watch the opposite of
Speaker 1: Alex Jones after this, which is Mr Mr Rogers. Maybe
Speaker 1: Bob Ross perhaps, maybe like the Great British Baking Show,
Speaker 1: just not Captain Kangaroo. That guy is a creepy. Although
Speaker 1: if I IF I, IF I, IF I watch Bob
Speaker 1: Ross in my current mind state. I'm sure I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see gunmen behind the happy little trees, but too much.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe just go walk the streets of your neighborhood
Speaker 1: for a while and trying to look at the stars
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know, man, you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what I think I'm gonna do. I'm gonna find
Speaker 1: a couple of cameramen, I'm gonna strip naked, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go bathe in the night. That does seem like
Speaker 1: a good idea, you know, night bathing deserves a quiet night,
Speaker 1: night bathing. Thank you for the r M reference. You're
Speaker 1: very welcome. Yeah, and uh, thank you all for listening.
Speaker 1: Uh no, Benjamin, you guys wanna wanna plug your plug
Speaker 1: doubles before we uh, we'll do the we'll do the
Speaker 1: quick and dirty version. God knows we need to. We've
Speaker 1: got stuff they don't want you to know, conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: with critical thinking. Uh, it's it's a it's a it's
Speaker 1: it's a full package. You can turn back now, or
Speaker 1: you can find every episode we've ever done on our website.
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Speaker 1: true and you can find that on all the places
Speaker 1: too at Ridiculous History. And God, Robert, this has been
Speaker 1: a blast, slash and utter nightmare. Um and I want
Speaker 1: to thank you for putting me through this. I really
Speaker 1: feel like what does not kill you makes you stronger.
Speaker 1: This is I've never felt that more than I feel
Speaker 1: right now. I thought you were going to say, what
Speaker 1: doesn't kill you makes you bonkers. That's what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with. And uh, I'd like to make an Alex Jones.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should all make Alex Jones T shirt ideas
Speaker 1: on our shows. It's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: send us your suggestions. Yeah. I think I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: write Alex Jones was murdered and sharpie on a white
Speaker 1: T shirt and walk around Hollywood Boulevard for a little while,
Speaker 1: just see what what kind of reaction that gets? You know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm going to conjecture, not much of one.
Speaker 1: What if I write Custody Wars dot Com on the back.
Speaker 1: There you go. Now we're cooking. Now we're working, all right.
Speaker 1: I'm Robert Evans. This has been Behind the Bastards. Uh.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at I right okay.
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