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Speaker 1: M hey, everybody, welcome to Behind the Bastards. I'm Robert Evans,

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Speaker 1: and this is the show where we tell you everything

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Speaker 1: you don't know about the very worst people in all

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Speaker 1: of history. I'm gonna take a quick bite from a

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Speaker 1: the day. M hmm. Do you hear the sound of

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Speaker 1: it biting back? It feels so good to hear that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Benjamin No co hosts of ridiculous history

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Speaker 1: and stuff they don't want you to know. Also a

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Speaker 1: little punchy right now because here we're on the East

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Speaker 1: but it's fine, I just I'm like writing it out.

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Speaker 1: I'm having a great time. Also, we can see each

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Speaker 1: other on video, so every time that Robert eats a derrito,

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Speaker 1: And I'm personally very excited that we, you know, want

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Speaker 1: to welcome all the listeners, uh to this episode that

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Speaker 1: that we've teased for a little bit, because that last

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Speaker 1: episode had some really heavy, emotionally powerful and uh, despair

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Speaker 1: for some catharsis right, Robert, Yes, we are so. Just

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Speaker 1: in case you're tuning in for the part three for

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Speaker 1: some reason and haven't watched the first two, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Alex Jones. In part one, we talked about his

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Speaker 1: rise and how he's sort of invented a lot of

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Speaker 1: in the radio and really revolutionary ways. In part two,

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Speaker 1: we talked about how he built an empire selling supplements,

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Speaker 1: some of which contained six times the recommended daily dose

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Speaker 1: of lead, and how his empire was heavily dependent on

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Speaker 1: convincing people that the government was attacking them and that

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Speaker 1: they were under threatened about to be destroyed, and that

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Speaker 1: this sparked a number of mass shootings, or at least

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Speaker 1: We ended by talking about the Sandy Hook conspiracy theory,

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Speaker 1: which Alex Jones was one of the origin points for,

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Speaker 1: and which resulted in a massive lawsuit that is still ongoing.

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Speaker 1: So as as you talked about today, is the schadenfreude

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Speaker 1: episode of of Alex Jones, the Fall of the House

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Speaker 1: that he has built. But before we get into all

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Speaker 1: of the lawsuits, I'm going to go back in time

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Speaker 1: a little bit to the election. It is possible that

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones did not want Donald Trump to win the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen election. Uh you will remember back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and twelve, there was some suspicion by

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Speaker 1: people close to Alex that he actually voted for Barack

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Speaker 1: that night reported later, quote, he looked depressed. You could

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Speaker 1: You could see his mood change. This employee noted that quote,

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Speaker 1: his business is based on a fear of the left

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Speaker 1: have that power of fear, that idea that they're going

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Speaker 1: thousand sixteen was the apex of Alex Jones's influence. He

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Speaker 1: come in live on election Night. Now. A few weeks later,

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Speaker 1: in mid December, Alex filmed one of the most incredible

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Speaker 1: videos I've ever seen in my entire life. I thoroughly

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Speaker 1: it shows Alex Jones looking like an unhinged, goddamn maniac,

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Speaker 1: This feels fantastic. This is what it is to be alive.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not criticizing you you playing video games. The

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Speaker 1: But it's a remarkable thing. You should watch this video

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Speaker 1: going like the gamnet of human emotions here. He deserves

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Speaker 1: For one thing, that dude held up the Comet Ping

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Speaker 1: accurate it all is, but she does claim on this

431
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Speaker 1: official legal document that she has audio tapes of much

432
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: of the harassment. Former info Wars video editor Rob Jacobson,

433
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 1: who is Jewish and that's will be relevant in a minute,

434
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: claims that he was discriminated against during his thirteen years

435
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: working with Alex Jones. He says he was called the

436
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: studios quote resident jew quote, the Jewish individual, and Jacobson,

437
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 1: which I don't know why that's an anti Jewish thing,

438
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: but anyway, you get the picture. A lot of anti

439
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Speaker 1: Semitism at the Info Wars office. Rob says this about

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00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: Alex Jones, quote my employer also inserted my face onto

441
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Speaker 1: a photo of a Hasidic Jewish man and circulated that

442
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: picture around the office. So holy ship. The idea that

443
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: he's coding the term globalists and uses it to mean

444
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: Jewish people seems pretty plausible when he really really does.

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00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: The least surprising thing in the world would be that

446
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: Alex Jones believes in a Jewish conspiracy. Yeah, that would

447
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: not shock me at all, although I would actually be

448
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: a little bit shocked. I go back and forth on

449
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: this because part of me thinks he has never at

450
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: least never that I've come up with. I've never run

451
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: into him in a video making a very clear direct

452
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: sort of reference to anti Semitism or a Jewish conspiracy,

453
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: and part of me note wonders, does Alex Jones have

454
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: the discipline if he really believes in this conspiracy two

455
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: hide it that much? Maybe he like is anti Semitic

456
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: enough to find some jokes about it funny, but really

457
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: doesn't believe in a conspiracy, because if he did, I

458
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: feel like it might have leaked out more. I don't know.

459
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: I go back and forth and saying I don't think

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00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: he's disciplined enough to keep it under wraps. He would just, like,

461
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, just poop out of his mouth and come

462
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: out with some fucking like anti Semitic garbage. I think

463
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: that if Alex Jones has believed this whole time in

464
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: a giant Jewish global conspiracy, the most impressive thing about

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00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: him is that he's been so disciplined enough to never

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Speaker 1: be direct about it that that would almost be kind

467
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: of impressive to me. Does he use uh the other

468
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: dog whistle words like does he say Zionists and stuff

469
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: like that. I haven't run into that he's more pro

470
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: Israel now that Trump's because he's he's become a lot

471
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: more conservative, especially since Trump got into the White House.

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Speaker 1: He used to be very critical of Israel, but it

473
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: was always critical of Israeli foreign policy. And of course,

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Speaker 1: obviously you don't have to be anti Semitic to have

475
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Speaker 1: criticisms of Israel Um. And when I've listened to those videos,

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Speaker 1: I have not run into anything where it sounds like

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00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: he's an anti Semitic crank um. Other than that, it

478
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: certainly seems like you could replace globalists with Jewish people

479
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: in a rant and you would have a Nazi rand.

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00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's Alex's intent or not.

481
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: I really go back and forth on this, because if

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00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: it is, he's hiding it. Well. Yeah, So here's another

483
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: thing that could be possible. If the profile that we

484
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: are painting of this dude is accurate to a high

485
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: enough degree, then it's completely possible that he would be

486
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: able to have a disciplined approach due to the bottom line,

487
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: Because what we're really asking about here is the nature

488
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Speaker 1: of belief. How much does he believe his own bullshit?

489
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: And it may well be that he just performs the

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00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: belief when he feels like it will help him in

491
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: a situation. So maybe behind closed doors with employees, he's

492
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: not quite straight out saying Jews, but he says you

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00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: know them and like nods a little bit so you

494
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: can hear the italics when he speaks. He also does

495
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: hilarious photoshop jobs, you know, with Jewish employees. I mean,

496
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: there's there's no question I have no I'm believing that whatsoever.

497
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: But no, I think to your point, he probably does

498
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: a better job of like holding that character when it

499
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: suits him. But I do feel like in this part

500
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: of the story, we're starting to see that unravel a

501
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: little bit, and I think that's interesting and I want

502
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: to I want to see more of that. Yeah, and

503
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: that is definitely the story of post Alex Jones, is

504
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: him unraveling and the things that he's clearly kept in

505
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: check and hidden to a degree over the years starting

506
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: to fall apart. So, yeah, this is actually the point

507
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: where we get to the piece to resistance of this episode,

508
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: Alex Jones's custody hearing. Oh here would go wasting for

509
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: this one, right. Yeah, And now, I never thought I

510
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: would cover a custody hearing in in one of my episodes.

511
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit even was hesitant to talk about

512
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: this stuff just because everybody has a private life custody

513
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: hearings are always ugly, but after everything I read about

514
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: what happened in this hearing, you really can't get the

515
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: whole story of Alex Jones without talking about this custody hearing.

516
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: It is a critical moment in the study of jones oology.

517
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about this custody be hearing.

518
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: In two thousand seven, Kelly Rebecca Nichols married Alex Jones.

519
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: So they got together when he was starting to be prominent,

520
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: but before he was super rich. You know, that's like

521
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: the year after he started the Info Wars store, but

522
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: before he was starting in full War's life, which is

523
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: when he really started to make money. So they split

524
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: up in two thousand thirteen and divorced in two thousand fifteen,

525
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: and they've been fighting over custody of their three children

526
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: ever since. They had a big courtroom hearing in April

527
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: of last year. Charlie Warzle of BuzzFeed was there. Here's

528
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: how he opened his article about the fateful day that

529
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: that started. Quote. Alex Jones's cross examination in his ten

530
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: day custody trial began today with an unusual question. You

531
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: haven't had any chili this morning? Have you, Mr Jones,

532
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: Is that a serious question? Jones shot back, Now, that

533
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: may seem weird to you, but that was a reference

534
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: to something that had happened during Alex's deposition. In March

535
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: of two thousand eighteen, Alex Jones, unofficial adviser to the President,

536
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: self declared revolutionary, millionaire and forty three year old man,

537
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: claimed that he couldn't remember the names of his children's

538
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: teachers because he's eaten an enormous bowl of chili the

539
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: night before. That was the argument of courtroom for why

540
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: he couldn't remember the teachers of his children is he

541
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: he was gassy? You know it? Did that does things

542
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: to your Brainia. He was asked by the judge in

543
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: a court of law if chili impacted his memory, and

544
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: Alex Jones replied, big old bowl of chili, Sure does. Yeah,

545
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: which when I read the transcript, I can hear it

546
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: in his voice. Really SAPs your memories the globalists in

547
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: the chili It off comes the shirt. Yeah, well we're

548
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: about to talk about that. Yeah. Although I will say

549
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: one of the craziest things is that after fifty or

550
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: six accumulative hours spent in Alex jones land, I don't

551
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: know that he's lying about chili impacting his memory. He

552
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: might be telling like that may just be the way

553
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: Alex Jones works, as he ate so much chili and

554
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 1: he forgot the names of his children's teachers, and then

555
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: it was like, fucking like elk chili here, you know

556
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: something super gamy. I think it if it was elk chili,

557
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: it was an elk that he wrestled to the ground

558
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: while hunting, naked in the woods and ripped its heart

559
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: out and ate it like racky style. I mean, if

560
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: I were wandering around in the woods of central Texas

561
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: and I saw a naked Alex Jones run past me,

562
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: chasing after a deer, I don't think I'd be surprised,

563
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: and he'd be like, Okay, this is a piece of

564
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: a puzzle, thank you. So it seems like over the

565
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: course of this custody hearing, Alex and his wife have

566
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: spent a combined at least four to five million dollars

567
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: on legal fees, maybe more like ten million. His ex

568
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: wife also already gets something like five dollars a year

569
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: from him, So I don't believe that money is the

570
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: thing at states in this custody hearing. It really does

571
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: seem that his wife is legitimately worried for the kids

572
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: who Alex had primary custody of during the you know,

573
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: the time when this custody hearing started. Um, he got

574
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: to pick where they lived full time, and she spent

575
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: two and a half million dollars to try to get

576
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: them out of his house, which I think is a

577
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: sign of real concern on her part. She argued that

578
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Alex is an unstable monster trying to turn their children

579
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: against her and inculcate them into being the heirs to

580
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: his conspiracy empire. She claims also that Alex has been

581
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. Yeah, that's not a long walk.

582
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: It's really not that surprising. I did learn that fact

583
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: when I stumbled upon his wife's website. Do you want

584
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: to guess what his wife's website is? Oh my gosh,

585
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: is it a pun on info wars? It sure is, buddy,

586
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: custody wars dot com. How is that not already taken?

587
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: It's amazing genius. Yeah, um, so there are a ton

588
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: of articles on custody wars dot com. I try not

589
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: to use it as a major source for this episode,

590
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: just because she has a very clear bias being you know,

591
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: his ex wife finding him in a case. And I

592
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: wanted to try to get as unbiased to sources as

593
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: I could for the life of Alex Jones. But I

594
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: had to look around it a little bit, and I

595
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: had to click on an icle titled why did Kelly

596
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: Moore mary Alex Jones? Because my god, I wanted to know.

597
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: I was expecting a wild and salacious rant when I

598
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: clicked on the article, and I was expecting her to

599
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: be essentially the female version of Alex Jones, just you know,

600
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: focused on hating Alex Jones rather than on hating the globalists.

601
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: That's not what I found. Uh, it was a very

602
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: reasonable article. She calls him a narcissist in it, but

603
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: she also spends most of the article breaking down in

604
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: a very rational way what narcissistic personality disorder is and

605
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: how it's easy for someone to trap you without you

606
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: really realizing at first about it. Actually, she doesn't seem

607
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: crazy at all. Having read some of her website, I'm

608
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: going to read a quote from that article. Sadly, Alex

609
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: has been professionally diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder and Alex,

610
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: like most narcissists, is good at pulling wool over people's eyes.

611
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Narcissists use a variety of verbal and emotional abuse in

612
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: their relationships, including gas lighting and manipulation. Their abuses constant,

613
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: and it wears you down to the point that you

614
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: question things you think you know to be true and

615
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: don't know which way is up. So it's like this,

616
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: this checks out because this is how he treats his

617
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: audience exactly. I was expecting, like creating a website custody

618
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: wars dot com. She was married Alex Jones. First I

619
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: was I was waiting for her to be a crazy person.

620
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: She seems really reasonable. You can watch interviews with her

621
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: that she's done for other journalists, and she's definitely media trained.

622
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 1: She's very media savvy. She clearly has memorized a lot

623
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: of different sort of speeches to go on because she

624
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: but but she seems genuinely concerned for him and for

625
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: their kids, and she definitely seems like the same person

626
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: in the relationship. I'll say, how long were they married?

627
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: Like seven years? They split up in two thousand and thirteen,

628
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: married in two thousand seven, but divorced in Yeah, so

629
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: he was he was still he was already batshitt Alex

630
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: Jones by this point though, right was right around the

631
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: pivot point. You know, she got with him right before

632
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: the Obama election, which is really sort of oh wow,

633
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: imagine learning that after you're married. Watching that transformation, I

634
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: just hear the Curb your Enthusiasm music playing, you know. Well,

635
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: but it was almost a little bit like the journey

636
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: we've had in this podcast, because you remember when I

637
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: played the first thing from him in the late nineties,

638
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: you were like, he's he's fun. I kind of want

639
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: to like see more of this guy. I want to, like,

640
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm just worn down, dude. I mean,

641
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: if you see me right now, I'm just like the

642
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: skin is hanging off my face right now. I'm so

643
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: beat down by this whole this guy. Yeah, I wanna

644
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: want to write a letter to him, a strongly worded letter. Well, yeah,

645
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: we're all I like that, we're all going on the

646
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: Kelly Jones journey right now. Like we can empathize with

647
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: her a little bit because we started out at like,

648
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Alex Jones, this guy is fun. I'd like to have

649
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: him at a party to like, oh my god. Yeah, anyway,

650
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: Kelly alleges that Alex Jones has been surveilling her since

651
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: the divorce, and ironically enough, leaving cameras on her property

652
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: in order to spy on her. She's found been documented

653
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: at least one of these cameras. Now, Alex has a

654
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: bodyguard who is a former Blackwater mercenary. Kelly alleges that

655
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: Alex has had this mercenary essentially tracking her. This guy

656
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: shows up with Alex in court. He's always whenever Alex

657
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: is in public, there's this big bearded looking, fucking mercenary

658
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: looking guy like he's got those I don't know, if

659
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: you've spent a lot of time around really scary fucking people.

660
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: He's got scary fucking person eyes. Um, he's got that.

661
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: I've destroyed people looking his eyes. Ye Ye, he's a

662
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: scary looking guy. And uh, I don't have any trouble

663
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: believing that Alex has used him to intimidate his ex wife.

664
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 1: That doesn't not a lot of a stretch, although again

665
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: this is all unconfirmed. Now, Alex claims that his ex

666
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: wife is unstable and emotionally unwell. H He has brought

667
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: some therapists into court who have described her that way. Uh,

668
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe she maybe she is, maybe she's

669
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: got some stuff loose. I don't know the woman. She

670
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: alleges that he bribed those therapists and I can't know

671
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: what happen. And his ex wife says that there's a

672
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: lot of corruption in the court system in Austin. I

673
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, it may just be that she's paranoid

674
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: after being married to Alex Jones for years and years,

675
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: which is entirely possible. And that's a specific genre of

676
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: gas lighting that narcissists use, where they will accuse people

677
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: of having the issues or behaviors that they themselves exhibit, right, Yeah,

678
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: to the point where it can make that person feel

679
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: is if they do have those sort of problems, Which

680
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: is part of why people stay with narcissistic abusers, is

681
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: that they can convince you that like you're the bad

682
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: one and that you're the one doing fucked up stuff

683
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: not only that, and only I can help you. Yeah,

684
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's again, it's the same thing he does

685
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: to his followers. It's bonkers to me the parallels here,

686
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: only not at all. It makes absolute sense. Yeah he

687
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: is well, no, he's not even consistent, but he's consistent

688
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: in the tactics he uses, for sure. So Alex bought

689
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: the best Texas lawyers that Texas money can buy. One

690
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 1: of his attorneys for this custody battle was a former

691
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Texas State Supreme Court justice. Another came from an old

692
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: Texas law family, so old that there are streets in

693
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Austin around the courthouse named after this guy's family. So

694
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: he spent the big money on this ship. But even

695
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: these men, these top dollar lawyers, were not able to

696
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: restrain Alex Jones. Charlie Warzl from BuzzFeed, who watched the

697
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: whole ship show, makes it sound like a pretty fun

698
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: custody hearing quote. His frustration with the opposing legal team

699
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: was theatrical and palpable. When irritated, which was often, he'd

700
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: narrow his eyes into a piercing squint and sometimes point menacingly.

701
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Eventually he was ordered to switch chairs to be out

702
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: of the attorney's eyeline. The judge admonished him at least

703
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: a dozen times and out of the courtroom. Jones ignored

704
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: a court gag order posting YouTube videos about the media's

705
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: coverage of the case, even when he's spending millions of

706
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: dollars on lawyers, he can't turn it off. It's remarkable.

707
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: So when we come back, we're going to talk about

708
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: how shirtlessness played a role in the Alex Jones custody hearing,

709
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: because you better bet shirtlessness played a role in his

710
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: court battles. Because if there's one thing that we know

711
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: for sure about Alex Jones, it's that the only thing

712
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: he hates more than globalists is his own shirt. So

713
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: all that and more after we sell you some products

714
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: and uh services, and we're back and we're talking about

715
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: Alex Jones and his epic court battle with his ex

716
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: wife Kelly. So yeah. At the start of the testimony,

717
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: Jones's lawyers claimed that he was a performance artist and

718
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: compared him to John Stewart. This was because a major

719
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: chunk of his wife's case rested on the unhinged and

720
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: often threatening content of his videos. On the second day

721
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: of the trial, Jones in the entire courtroom watched a

722
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: video of him wearing only his underwear selling male vitality supplements. Yeah,

723
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: it's a pretty special video. They also played a video

724
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: from two thousand sixteen with a title Alex Jones takes

725
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: off his clothes for the FBI and that's the title

726
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: Alex Jones gave the video. This video includes several minutes

727
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: of Alex Jones ranting about you and carbon taxes and

728
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: Amazon end user license agreements. Then he talks about how

729
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: your webcam is watching you, which sure maybe probably sometimes.

730
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: Alex rants about biometrics and the increasing dehumanization of modernity

731
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: and claims, quote, once they've got you cashless, they've got everything,

732
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: and they're going to take your humanity down to the

733
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: bone and blow it away. Then ten minutes and forty

734
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: seconds into this shirtless video Alex Jones made for the FBI,

735
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: he starts to strip and we're gonna play that clip here.

736
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just going to take my shirt off. Hey,

737
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: you will notice I've lost even more way, but a

738
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: slow process and forwards life dot Com. We've got the

739
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: great DNA force back in stop. We've got the great

740
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: supermail about Cally back in stop. I'll tell you the

741
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: same amount of exercises I ever did, but taking the

742
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: great things that Mother Nature has created and concentrating on

743
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: much super mevitality has really helped me louse. As you

744
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: can see right here now Again, I was not this

745
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: tonight I have lost a lot of wight if you

746
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: compare this to past video. So while we're here with

747
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: government looking on our surf history, looking at what emails

748
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: we send, Google reading your emails, suicide, sat factories, murdering people, death,

749
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: forced abortion, baby parts being sold. Oh, but I'm so dehumanized.

750
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm in my underwear. Isn't it pathetic? I just have

751
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: no doubt that he's on stimulants, right, he has to be.

752
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's yeah, he's like you know, poppin Benny's

753
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: at the very least, is something good. Lord. I think

754
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: there's a logic to it where he's narcissistic enough to

755
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: be thinking, better take my shirt off because sex cells.

756
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: You know, he might think people are attracted to it.

757
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: And I I I love that in this video that

758
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: he has made for the FBI, he's selling supplement stuff.

759
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: That's such commitment. I just think we're seeing a man

760
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: in full tail spin. He's still incorporating some of his

761
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: old tricks as he breaks down in the public eye.

762
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: Like he's like he's so married to this idea of

763
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: like cell cell cell, and like that's the only reason

764
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: that any of the stuff exists, because he doesn't really

765
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: believe any of it. I don't know that he just

766
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: can't not do it. But yet he's having a breakdown

767
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: on YouTube and still manages to throw to the fucking

768
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: ad he needs help. You know, maybe it's like a

769
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: muscle memory at this point. You know, it's reflexive. And

770
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: I really do wonder because I I've heard a lot

771
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: of allegations that he's an alcoholic. He will, you will

772
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: run into people around him. He definitely drinks, and sometimes

773
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: because he's been drunk on his show and on videos

774
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: he's posted a number of times. So it's possible that

775
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: he's a problem drinker. It's possibly as another drug problem.

776
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, I do wonder how much

777
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: of his degeneration is just the fact that he's been

778
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: fucking taking a shipload of meth or whatever. I don't

779
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: know what, But like you, you watch some of these

780
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: videos and it's like, if he's sober during this, which

781
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: he does claim to be sober in that shirtless wandering

782
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: around in the winter video, if he's sober, there's something

783
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: profound going on in him. I mean, if there was

784
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: a video of me behaving this way on the internet,

785
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: like I would not want that out in the world.

786
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: Oh good God, no, thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah.

787
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: So in the courtroom, because they played that video for

788
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: the court, um, it was one of the few videos

789
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: the judge allowed to be played. And I should note

790
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: that after the point at which we stopped, he continues

791
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: standing around in his underwear and ranting for five more minutes.

792
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: Bobby Newman, a lawyer for Kelly Jones, stated to the

793
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: court afterwards, he just takes his clothes off, and I'm

794
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess that was the way that he expressed

795
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: that I only have it type, but I'm gonna guess

796
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: it's he just stay his clothes off. That's that's Alex Jones.

797
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: That's what he did. I just picture the people like

798
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: staying up late into the night agonizing about how to

799
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: justify this, or like going through various pieces of jurisprudence

800
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: and then just saying, you know what, we're gonna have

801
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: to lose this battle if we want to win this war. So,

802
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: psychologist Alyssa Sherry, who was the case manager for the

803
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: Jones divorce, confirmed in court that Alex Jones has been

804
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. So this is not an allegation, uh.

805
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: She says that he has sought help for it. She

806
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: also says that she has seen Alex remove his shirt

807
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: in front of his children during a therapy session. She

808
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: quote didn't remember the context in which he stripped, but

809
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: noted that it was quote a rare thing to happen

810
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: in a therapy session, which would I would say, So

811
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: that's that's that's reasonable thing to say. Maybe he's going

812
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: crazy because we keep asking him to wear clothes, like,

813
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: maybe there's some sort of he's he's trying to let

814
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: the sanity into his pores and that's why he keeps

815
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: stripping when the crazy hits hardest. Oh god, yeah, maybe maybe,

816
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: maybe so. Jones's ex wife's lawyers accused him of being

817
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: as crazy off camera as he is on camera. They

818
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: also accused him of trying to turn his children against

819
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: their mother and alleged that he quote intends to unmesh

820
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: the children in his business. Jones in return, testified that

821
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: his fourteen year old son has quote done some great

822
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: reports for us. So we're gonna listen to one of

823
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: those reports that his child has done. It's titled Alex

824
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: Jones's Son Challenges David Hogg to a gun debate. So

825
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: clearly Alex wanted to attack the Parkland kids, in particularly

826
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: David Hogg, but knew that forty four year old, shirtless

827
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: Alex Jones ranting to go children would not play well,

828
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: so he had his own teenager do a video. We're

829
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: going to play a small selection from that because it

830
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: is pretty embarrassing. It is admitted they want to distrom

831
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: the American people, just as they have done with so

832
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: many rough regimes in the past. Hitler, stalin Mouth, North Korea.

833
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: Do you think those places Do you think those corrupt

834
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: leaders allowed their citizens to have guns? Do you think

835
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: that the Jews were able to protect themselves when Hitler

836
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: put them in concentration camps? No, they were disarmed and

837
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: that's why they were enslaved. Really, first of all, he's

838
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: doing the Alex Jones voice already. Yeah, yeah, And he

839
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: looks and he's got like he's got this just staring

840
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: into the void look on his face. This like indoctrinated

841
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: look at his face. It looks like very chilling looking

842
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: a fundamentalist kid who has been stuck at camp for

843
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: too long, you know what I mean, Like there's a

844
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: there's a parenting quality. Yeah, and I have no reason

845
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: to question his wife when she's worries for her son,

846
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: because I'm worried for that kid. A fourteen year old

847
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: should not be looking like that, or talking like that,

848
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: or be put on a camera in front of millions

849
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: of people saying those things. He's fourteen. It's just gross.

850
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: It's really really gross and scary. So you might have

851
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: expected Alex Jones to be on his best behavior during

852
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: the epic court battle over his children's custody. You know,

853
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: if someone's legal case rest entirely on the claim that

854
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: they're just an actor playing a crazy guy and not

855
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: really crazy themselves, maybe that person shouldn't do crazy, unhinged

856
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: things in the middle of their court case. That would

857
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: make sense, right, like good logic, solid strategy. Right. Alex

858
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: Jones took a different tact. Midway through the trial. He

859
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: published a video on Info Wars Live titled Alex Jones

860
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: responds to Sandy Hook Vampire. Sadly, this video appears to

861
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: have been scrubbed from the Internet, so I'm going to

862
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: read Rolling Stones summary of what it included. Instead of

863
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: ranting about unanswered questions around the mass shooting, he showed

864
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: scenes from the nineteen seventy three American science fiction movies

865
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: Soilent Green, and talked about his teenage sex life. So

866
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, oh wow, Yeah, So I have

867
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: a question. They said that he might be a problem

868
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: drinker and spend a lot of time on camera or

869
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: in public inebriated. Was there anything Did you see anything

870
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: about him possibly being drunk or inebriated during the trial

871
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: or during the hearing. Rather, I did not run into

872
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: any evidence of that. I think it's entirely possible, but

873
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Certainly, I haven't read read anyone alleging

874
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: that he was drunk during the trial. They didn't play

875
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: a video during the trial of a drunk Alex Jones

876
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: talking about his desire to piss on a tree. And

877
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: I'll defend him on that because I've spent there. Absolutely,

878
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of my life drunk and paying

879
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: on trees. And it's a noble, noble way to spend

880
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: your time. Yeah, just don't get caught. Don't get caught,

881
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: or do it in the woods where it's fine to

882
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: pay on everything. That's the joy of the woods, which

883
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: is why I think Alex is drawn to the woods. Yeah,

884
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: at least crazy thing about him. Okay. So at one

885
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: point during the trial, Kelly Jones took the stand and

886
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: laid out her accusations against her ex husband. She claimed

887
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: that Alex was a quote angry, volatile, hateful person who

888
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: regularly went on racist, homophobic, and anti women rants. She

889
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: also said that their children had begun to pair it

890
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: his beliefs. She said that she heard her fourteen year

891
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: old son say I hate women, and their twelve year

892
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: old daughters say women shouldn't be judges. Kelly warned presumably

893
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: the entire world that quote they are morphing into him. Yes,

894
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: but that that is so evident, and that click you played,

895
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it looks like a little mini

896
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: Alex Jones. It's he's trained a second one, which means that,

897
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: like our fucking grandkids, will probably be dealing with a

898
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: crazy person last named Joan Shirtless on Info Wars screaming

899
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: about the globalists, or maybe not, depending on how the

900
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: as this podcast, I will see um. But yeah, that

901
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: scares the hell out of me. The idea that this

902
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: man is allowed to influence the lives of children is horrifying.

903
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: It's just more apparent though with his own children, because

904
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: he's able to legally exert you know, physical influence over there.

905
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: But I think this leads to a larger quat gien

906
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: which is difficult to answer. How many other children are

907
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: being influenced? And it's not as if it's difficult for

908
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: a twelve year old to find him on YouTube? No,

909
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: And in fact, when I was a young teenage, like fifteen,

910
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen, I ran into Alex Jones stuff on

911
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: the Internet all the time and thought it was like

912
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny, but I watched a bunch

913
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: of his stuff as a kid, um, and who knows.

914
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think that the globalists are poisoning

915
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: our water and that the only way to get rid

916
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: of the toxins that they put into our water is

917
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: to buy the new Bastard's pod. I had nine shield

918
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: protection potion, which again I will mail you if you

919
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: pay pal Me forty three dollars it'll it'll come in

920
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: a brown envelope. That's just just a pile of pills,

921
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: you know what I am sold. Yes, PayPal Me money

922
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: and I will mail you pills. And okay, let's get

923
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: back to Alex Jones Jones's ex wife, Kelly, complained that

924
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: the public and controversial nature of her husband's work put

925
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: she in her children in danger. She brought up a

926
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: tweeted death threat Alex received in April of two thousand seventeen,

927
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: which had threatened death to Alex, his children, and Info

928
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: Wars staff. So yeah. She basically claimed that because he's

929
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: so prominent and so controversial in involving their children, that

930
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: he's putting them in danger, which again seems fair. Uh.

931
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: In the end, the court seems to have sided with her.

932
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: The couple remained joint managing conservators, so neither of them

933
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: has full custody, but his wife gained the ability to

934
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: designate the primary residence of the children, which is a

935
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: big win and i this will continue to be relitigated.

936
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure they will be back in court numerous times

937
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: before their kids are eighteen. So the last year and

938
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: a half or so of Alex's life has, as you

939
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: probably guess by now, involved a lot of courtroom time.

940
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: Alex was actually sued in the middle of his custody

941
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: hearing by Chobani Yogurt of all people, because on April tenth,

942
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: while in the middle of his trial, Alex published a

943
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: video titled Idaho Yogurt Maker Caught Importing Migrant Rapists. The

944
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: video itself is pretty boring. It starts two of Jones's

945
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: lackeys rather than Alex himself. The video basically connects Chobani

946
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: to a rape committed by some refugees and then spirals

947
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: into an incoherent rant. Jones doesn't show up until the

948
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: end when he comes in to deliver a special report which,

949
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: rather than being about refugees, is about iodine, which he sells.

950
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: So we're gonna listen to a little bit of that.

951
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: Off your family a favor and check out the importance

952
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: of iodine for yourself. I think you're gonna be blown away,

953
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: and whatever you do, support the broadcast to get a

954
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: bottle of survival shield Nason on on X two. Also

955
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: consult your physician because have you been deficient in it

956
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: or have other issues. It can maps dramatic effects. As

957
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: for me and most folks I talked to, it's been

958
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: a game changer in the positive column. But still consult

959
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: your physician because iodine is no joke, because a key

960
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: building block of the body, and if you haven't had

961
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: it for a long time and suddenly have it. Some

962
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: folks say they've experienced things like a detoxing effect and

963
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: things like that. You've got to have bottom. And so

964
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: this is what he appends to the end of a

965
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: video accusing Chobani of importing rapists to the United States.

966
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: Chobani sued him, and again they sued him while he

967
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: was in the middle of the custody hearing with his

968
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: wife his ex wife, Um, when you showed us this video.

969
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: One thing that really sticks out to me is that

970
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: from an editing perspective, it looks like a hastily arranged

971
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 1: voiceover with just clips playing like it flashed. The two

972
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: shots of him at the news desk, I guess at

973
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: the war's news desk, but he's it's clearly from an

974
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: earlier recording. So did he really just record a video

975
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: for iodine? Yeah? I think he recorded, because that's how

976
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: he does. It is like they're doing this other report

977
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: that's supposedly a news story about the dangerous refugees Chobani

978
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: is bringing into the United States, and then Alex makes

979
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: it look like he's delivering breaking news, but instead of

980
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: he's just trying to sell you iodine. Oh wow. Remarkable.

981
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: So after Chabanni sued Alex. He immediately put out another video,

982
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: laughing at the company for daring to come after him. Uh.

983
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: He claimed that he could back up all of the

984
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: claims that he had made about rapes and TV beings

985
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: bread by Chobani's refugee workers. But then in May he

986
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: settled out of court with Chabani, paying them an undisclosed

987
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: sum and releasing this sweet, sweet dose of schadenfreude. And

988
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm overwhelmingly happy to present to all of you Alex

989
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: Jones apologizing to Chobani Yogurt on the infull Wars twitter

990
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: feed and YouTube channel regarding Shabani LLC that I now

991
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: understand to be wrong. The tweets and video have now

992
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: been retracted and will not be reposted on half of

993
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: the full Wars. I regret that we miss Church Rise,

994
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: Shabani It's employees, and the people of Twin Falls, Ottaho

995
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: the way we did well. Like that he's got he's

996
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: got a shirt on, he's got a shirt on, he's

997
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: reading copy. Clearly he I wonder how much money they

998
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: pulled out of his hide and how much money less

999
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: he had to pay as a result of apologizing publicly,

1000
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: but it's very It was a very clearly legally man Yeah,

1001
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: really a legal mandated apology just screaming. It sounds like

1002
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: his legal team probably also negotiated the language of the apology.

1003
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: That's why I had to be explicit. And I bet

1004
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: he fought them for a while on whether or not

1005
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: he was going to wear a shirt during that. But

1006
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: oh yeah, He's like, look, I'll do it, but I

1007
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: gotta be greased up. Yeah, I want to get real

1008
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: greasy in my underwear. Can I strip while I apologize?

1009
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: Can I sell iodine shield while I am apologizing? I

1010
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: am shocked that there was no ad for Info Wars

1011
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: Life in that apology to Chabani, you would expect, right, Okay, No,

1012
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: you absolutely would. I especially don't make these sorts of

1013
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: errors in my reporting. But I haven't been taking my

1014
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: supplements and it's making me crazy. I've just been eaten chili.

1015
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: On April seventeen, two thousand and eighteen, the families of

1016
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: several children who died in the Sandy Hook attack, including

1017
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: Lenny Postner and Veronica his ex wife, sued Alex Jones

1018
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 1: for more than a million dollars. Now we've already talked

1019
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: about in our last podcast, Veronica and Lenny. Another parent

1020
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: last named Hesslin, was also part of this lawsuit because

1021
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: Info Wars Alex Jones claimed that he was lying about

1022
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: seeing a bullet hole in his child's head. Alex actually

1023
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: did a whole special report where they like attempted to

1024
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: prove that he couldn't have seen his child's dead body. Which, yeah,

1025
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: so these people all joined together in a big old

1026
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: lawsuit against Info Wars. The suit on behalf of the

1027
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: Sandy Hook families came at the same time as another

1028
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: defamation suit. Marcel Fontaine sued Alex Jones for one million

1029
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: dollars because Alex had used his image on air and

1030
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: claimed that he was the Parkland shooter. He didn't even

1031
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: live in the state. I don't know if he'd ever

1032
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: even been to Florida. So two defamation suits drop at

1033
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: the same time, both for a million dollars, and in August,

1034
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: six more Sandy Hook families joined the lawsuit against August.

1035
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: I think there's nine families currently suing him for his

1036
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: role in perpetuating that particular conspiracy theory and court lawyers

1037
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: for the Sandy Hook families played an episode of Info

1038
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: Wars where Alex Jones broadcast maps to the Posner home

1039
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: using audible gasps from the jury. So Alex actually doxed

1040
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: people like claimed that they had faked their child's murder,

1041
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: and then told his viewers how to find their home.

1042
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: Alex's lawyer argued that this did not count as defamation.

1043
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: Quote what does it count as well? You're sorry, Alex's lawyer.

1044
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: I'm on the edge of my seat here, man. Maybe

1045
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: it's fringe speech, maybe it's dangerous speech, but it's not defamation.

1046
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: That is rhetoric hyperbole at its core. O. Come then,

1047
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: I do imagine that as like the country lawyer. Maybe

1048
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: it's fringe speech, maybe it's dangerous speech, but defamation declare

1049
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: there is rhetorical hyperbole at its core, rhetorical hyperbole. Here's

1050
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: a video of Alex Jones talking about the Sandy Hook parents.

1051
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: Y'all tell me if you think this seems like defamation.

1052
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: Billy off and watched him go around the corner and

1053
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: he never came back, all because of the guns. Won't

1054
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: you just turn your guns in from my son? Why

1055
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 1: did you do it to him? Gun? Own this listen,

1056
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: I didn't kill your kids. The truth is they've had

1057
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: national polls were upwards of half of Americans don't believe

1058
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: Sandy Hook because they don't believe a word the mainstream

1059
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: media says, we've sent reporters up there, man, and that

1060
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: place is like children in the corner or something. I mean,

1061
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: it is freaking weird. And then the weird videos of

1062
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: reported parents of kids laughing, and all of a sudden

1063
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: they do the high preventilating to cry, to go on TV.

1064
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: All I know is something's going on, and you don't

1065
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: like us looking at it. You don't like us questioning

1066
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: you the father, He's to clarified that n b C.

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00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: He's to clarified, clarify because the corner said none of

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00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: the parents were allowed to touch the kids or see

1069
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: the kids, and maybe they meaning at the school. I'm

1070
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: sure later maybe the parents saw their children. So um

1071
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: Alex will claim and still claims that he never accused

1072
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: the families of faking their children's deaths. You can see

1073
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: where he has a legal leg to stand on there,

1074
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: because he said study show upwards of half Americans don't

1075
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: believe anything happened at San Diego because they don't believe

1076
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: the mainstream media. But then he immediately goes into talking

1077
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: about what we've sent reporters up there, and it seems

1078
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: it's spooky. It seems like a ghost town. Like I

1079
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: would say that that meets my personal threshold for defamation

1080
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: of these families for for damn sure. Um. I don't

1081
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: know what the law is gonna wind up saying, but

1082
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: it seems pretty defamatory to me. So this is still

1083
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: in motion. This is still being adjudicated. Yeah, this is

1084
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: still in motion. It is still going on. Jones's lawyers

1085
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: at one point asked the judge to throw out the

1086
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: case and tried to sue Ronick and Lenny for a

1087
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in court fees. Now, Alex did rescind

1088
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: that attempt to get them to pay his court fees,

1089
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: and he, in an interview with a journalist, was very

1090
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: angry that the news has not reported more on the

1091
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: fact that he decided not to countersue the families that

1092
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: he defamed. His lawyer's request to have the case thrown

1093
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: out was denied in August, So we're still waiting to

1094
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: see where all of these cards are gonna fall. I

1095
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: know of at least three defamation cases going on against

1096
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: Alex Jones right now, though, so he is concurrently involved

1097
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: in at least three defamation suits. It might be more

1098
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: like five. Like a lot of people are suing him

1099
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: right now. Um and whatever these cases wind up costing him,

1100
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: if anything, you know, he might win, but that cost

1101
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: will be in addition to the millions of dollars he's

1102
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: spent on custody battles with his wife. I assume he's

1103
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: spending millions of dollars in all of these lawsuits. I

1104
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: don't know what he paid to Chibani, or if he

1105
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: paid them, but I think it's fairly safe to say

1106
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: that Alex Jones is hemorrhage in cash right now, as

1107
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: is his Info Wars operation. Like he is. He's hired

1108
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: top dollar lawyers, and he's involved this is I think

1109
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: like something seven or eight different lawsuits this year, Like

1110
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: that is enough to drain even a very rich man,

1111
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: which Alex is. All of which makes this a very

1112
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: bad time for him to suddenly get cut off from

1113
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: every single major social media platform. Over the course of August,

1114
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: he was banned by Facebook and YouTube, and the iTunes

1115
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: app store, among other platforms. The bands caused an initial

1116
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: surge in traffic to infull Wars as people flocked there

1117
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: to see Jones's increasingly unhinged reactions to the banning. This

1118
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: caused him to celebrate and say, quote, the more I

1119
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: am persecuted, the stronger I get. It backfired. But that

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00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be true. Here's what The New York

1121
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: Times wrote on September four, two thousand eighteen. In the

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00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: three weeks before the August six bands in full Wars

1123
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: had an daily average of nearly one point four million

1124
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: visits to its website and views of videos posted by

1125
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: its main YouTube and Facebook pages. But quote, in the

1126
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: three months afterward, its audience fell by roughly half to

1127
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: about seven hundred and fifteen thousand site visits and video views,

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00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: according to the analysis. So it's possible that his traffic

1129
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: is down by half or more than half right now. Um,

1130
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: Because on September five, while lawmakers talked to Jack Dorsey,

1131
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: the head of Twitter, Alex Jones showed up in Washington,

1132
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: d C. His cunning plan end was to scream at everybody,

1133
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: including Jack Dorsey, the man who had, by some accounts,

1134
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: personally intervened to stop him from being banned by Twitter.

1135
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: Alex yelled at a lot of people during that trip, though,

1136
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: and one of those people was CNNs Oliver Darcy. Now,

1137
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: Darcy had documented all of the ways Alex Jones and

1138
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: info Wars had violated YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter's codes of conduct. Uh.

1139
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: He was a big part of the fact that Alex

1140
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: had been d platformed by everyone but Twitter. At this point,

1141
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: info Wars calls Darcy quote the architect of d platform

1142
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: and conservatives. Jones confronted Darcy during his DC tripped and

1143
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: streamed the whole encounter on periscope, which is owned by Twitter.

1144
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: Here is just a clip of that so you can

1145
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: get an idea of what was going on here, the

1146
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: decisions for the mess because you don't even respond, because

1147
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: we're just scum. You have him with no viewers, no followers.

1148
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: Everyone can't stand you, no matter you could shut everyone

1149
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: down on earth. No one will like you. You understand

1150
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: that he'll never have builties of relatiers, of fans and followers.

1151
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: You'll never have people that love you. Do you have

1152
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: any else you're like you? You don't. You are a

1153
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: dishonorable liar who would never even dare have me on

1154
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: your little tiny shows when you instilledor called me a virus.

1155
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: You are a virus to America and freedom. You are authoritarianism.

1156
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: Just look in those eyes. What I wanna? I really

1157
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: want to throw some props Darcy's way, because there are

1158
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: other videos you can find, even from DC of him

1159
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: arguing with people on the street. A couple of women

1160
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: confront him at one point and they get into a

1161
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: screaming argument with him, and they do the wrong thing,

1162
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: which is engaged with him. Because Alex's thing, whenever he's

1163
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: in person, he's going to throw out as many different,

1164
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: very specific accusations as possible because that's the way his

1165
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: mind works. Because then you're going to lose. If you

1166
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: try to address one thing, he's going to attack you

1167
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: for not addressing the other things. If you try to

1168
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: address everything, he's just gonna keep throwing more stuff at

1169
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: you until you don't have a response, which makes it

1170
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: look like you've lost. Darcy just doesn't say anything until

1171
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: there's a break and when he and then he will

1172
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: just say something like do you have anything else to say?

1173
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: Alex always good to see you, Alex like he really

1174
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: understands this guy and how to defying him. Um, And

1175
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 1: it turns out that that rant against Darcy was well,

1176
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: it's debatable. Some people will say that the fact that

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01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: he yelled at Jack Dorsey is why Dorsey pulled him

1178
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: from Twitter. The official reason that Jones got pulled from

1179
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: Twitter is because what he did to Oliver Darcy on

1180
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: periscope was abusive and bullying and in violation of Twitter's

1181
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: rules of conduct. So Alex Jones was banned from Twitter

1182
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: the very next day. Uh. It is impossible to know

1183
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: where the future will take Alex Jones and Info Wars,

1184
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: but I do think it's important for posterity's sake that

1185
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: we take a look at how he reacted to the

1186
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: fact that he has now been thoroughly d platformed from

1187
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: polite digital society. Here's a clip from his first post

1188
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: ban episode. He starts the clip wearing a donkey mask,

1189
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: which he rips off to reveal the reptilian mask underneath.

1190
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: So he's wearing two masks at the start of this video. H.

1191
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: That's just beautiful. H It's a long clip, but my god,

1192
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: it's full of stars and we we just have to

1193
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: play it. But no one's going to see that broadcast.

1194
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: Alex Jones you today because it's been deleted, and you

1195
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: see you've learned and you've learned very very well that

1196
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: only the Internet matters, not UHF, not VHF, nothing, Only

1197
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: our control matters. And so now you're being taught to submit.

1198
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: So let me tell you about Operations six six Sixation

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01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: six six is a fake donkey head on the whole

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01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: Aloration freed, she Destroyal I'm just a donkey on the

1201
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: sixth obviously banded four wars from twenty seven platforms, and

1202
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: now September six we band you from Twitter, and on

1203
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: October six, we will destroy your president and set fire

1204
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: to every major US city and have our communist forces

1205
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: launched our attack while Silicon Valley sits in their bunkers

1206
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: in the middle of the Pacific Ocean in New Zealand.

1207
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: Operation six six six the number of the Beast hell

1208
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: and fire raining free. Soon the West Room fall. One

1209
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: eight billion Islamis has trained in Satanism are ready to

1210
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: invade the China system road span. The Third World will

1211
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: collapse into Europe and America domination will be complete. I

1212
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: was wrong. That's not the video where he rips off

1213
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: his donkey masks to reveal an alien mask. That is

1214
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: a different video where he wears a job. There's just

1215
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: so many. I love this though, because first off, that's

1216
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: quality entertainment. That is quality entertainment. He's nothing if not

1217
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: a showman. That's that's damna. And the way he's moving

1218
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: around and being so arch with his statements really reminds

1219
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: me of um villains from old cartoons like Cobra Commander

1220
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: or um. But there's a yeah exactly, Yeah, there is

1221
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: a strong Cobra Commander vibe to Alex Jones in that

1222
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: video that is like he has gone off of the

1223
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: deep end and is digging his own swimming pool now,

1224
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: like it's yeah, for sure. Something else. I love that

1225
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: line one point three billion Islamist trained in Satanism are

1226
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: on the border or something like that, because they were like,

1227
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: we need as many as Lamis as as we can get,

1228
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: but make sure they're trained in Satanism. Yeah. I don't

1229
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: have asked this one, although that's almost woke for Alex

1230
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: Jones because he is claiming that they have to be

1231
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: trained in the Satanism, which you know, for Alex Jones

1232
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: that's progressive. So maybe he's turned a corner. No, no, so,

1233
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: do we have any idea what's going to happen to

1234
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: this guy? No idea Um, it's still too soon after

1235
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 1: the bands to know what kind of financial impact there's

1236
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: going to really be for the fact that he's been

1237
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: DP platformed, so over the next couple of months, I'm

1238
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: sure a lot of people will be watching to see

1239
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: what happens to his traffic, you know, what happens to

1240
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: the spread of his ideas. I did watch his most

1241
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: recent big broadcast, and he makes a big point of

1242
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: like there's a video out right now. The Daily Wire

1243
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: posted it first, but then Jones grabbed it of like

1244
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: this rancher put up a camera on his land for

1245
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: like two and a half years and he filmed people

1246
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: crossing the border, and so like Alex has turned like

1247
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: an army is crossing the boy. Yeah, but he he

1248
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: makes polls to like put this on your Twitter page.

1249
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: You know, we can't tweet this, but you can, is

1250
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: what he says. And I suspect we're going to see

1251
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: a lot of that as him being like I can't

1252
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: put this on Facebook, but you can. Um, So yeah

1253
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: to action. Yeah, He's going to keep trying, even if

1254
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: he has to go back to being the guy, you know,

1255
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: attacking Heraldo Rivera and screaming on a bullhorn. While someone

1256
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 1: else broadcast. I don't think he's going to stop doing

1257
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 1: what he's done his entire adult life at this point. So, yeah,

1258
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: was that DC trip the same trip wherein he accosted

1259
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, No, it was the same trip. He said

1260
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: he had a busy day. So Alex Jones, that's it.

1261
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: That's all I got for you, guys. What did you

1262
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: have you learned? I'm exhausted, Robert, that was that was

1263
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: a it was a wild ride you just took us on.

1264
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: And that was the first of all. This is the

1265
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: single most hours of podcasting I think either one of

1266
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: us have done in a single day. Yeah, but um,

1267
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: I gotta get a donkey mask. Yeah, we all need

1268
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: donkey masks. I think that's fair. I feel that insane

1269
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: right now that I would totally wear a donkey mask

1270
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: for the rest of the night, just like you know,

1271
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: just out around the town, but with a shirt on.

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Speaker 1: And would people ask what it's for, Just say operations

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Speaker 1: six City six six run cackling. Then you can rip

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Speaker 1: your shirt off and run cackling into the night and

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Speaker 1: have a nice night bath. I need one of those

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Speaker 1: Hulkyogan like Haraway shirts that's like made of like orth.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised he doesn't have one of those. You'd think

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Speaker 1: he'd have a closet full of them by now. Man,

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Speaker 1: he's very he's very restrained when he's stripping for the FBI.

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Speaker 1: You know that is the most restrained stripping for the

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Speaker 1: FBI I've ever seen. For sure. I think he's trying

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Speaker 1: to make it a little erotic. Well, Robert, thank you

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Speaker 1: for breaking our brains and having us on your bonkers

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Speaker 1: three part series on Alex Jones. Well, yeah, thank you

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Speaker 1: for letting us do this. Man, Well, thank you both

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01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: for enduring this with me, and thank you listeners for

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01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: enduring this with us. Although you've taken these I hope

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01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: three days apart from each other, as opposed to all

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Speaker 1: at once, which is a lot of Alex Jones to take. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I need, I need all the drinks. Yeah, Like now

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01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to drink heavily and watch the opposite of

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: Alex Jones after this, which is Mr Mr Rogers. Maybe

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01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: Bob Ross perhaps, maybe like the Great British Baking Show,

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: just not Captain Kangaroo. That guy is a creepy. Although

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Speaker 1: if I IF I, IF I, IF I watch Bob

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Speaker 1: Ross in my current mind state. I'm sure I'm gonna

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01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: see gunmen behind the happy little trees, but too much.

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01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe just go walk the streets of your neighborhood

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Speaker 1: for a while and trying to look at the stars

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Speaker 1: or something. I don't know, man, you know what, you

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Speaker 1: know what I think I'm gonna do. I'm gonna find

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Speaker 1: a couple of cameramen, I'm gonna strip naked, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go bathe in the night. That does seem like

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Speaker 1: a good idea, you know, night bathing deserves a quiet night,

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Speaker 1: night bathing. Thank you for the r M reference. You're

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Speaker 1: very welcome. Yeah, and uh, thank you all for listening.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, Benjamin, you guys wanna wanna plug your plug

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Speaker 1: doubles before we uh, we'll do the we'll do the

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01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: quick and dirty version. God knows we need to. We've

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: got stuff they don't want you to know, conspiracy theories

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01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: with critical thinking. Uh, it's it's a it's a it's

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Speaker 1: it's a full package. You can turn back now, or

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01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,919
Speaker 1: you can find every episode we've ever done on our website.

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Speaker 1: Stuff they don't want, you know, dot Com or Apple

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01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: Podcasts or Spotify. We also have a also have a

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Speaker 1: great show called Ridiculous History that Nolan I host that

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01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 1: covers all the strange, bizarre, unusual, and sometimes hilarious people,

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Speaker 1: places and events throughout the span of human civilization. It's

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01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: true and you can find that on all the places

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Speaker 1: too at Ridiculous History. And God, Robert, this has been

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01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: a blast, slash and utter nightmare. Um and I want

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: to thank you for putting me through this. I really

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01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: feel like what does not kill you makes you stronger.

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Speaker 1: This is I've never felt that more than I feel

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Speaker 1: right now. I thought you were going to say, what

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Speaker 1: doesn't kill you makes you bonkers. That's what I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with. And uh, I'd like to make an Alex Jones.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we should all make Alex Jones T shirt ideas

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Speaker 1: on our shows. It's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, so

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01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: send us your suggestions. Yeah. I think I'm just gonna

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01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: write Alex Jones was murdered and sharpie on a white

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01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: T shirt and walk around Hollywood Boulevard for a little while,

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01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 1: just see what what kind of reaction that gets? You know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm going to conjecture, not much of one.

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Speaker 1: What if I write Custody Wars dot Com on the back.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Now we're cooking. Now we're working, all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm Robert Evans. This has been Behind the Bastards. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at I right okay.

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Speaker 1: You can find my fun book about Experimenting with Dangerous

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01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: Ancient drugs, A Brief History of Ice on Amazon. You

1341
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: can find this website, all of our sources, all of

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01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: these terrible video clips on behind the Bastards dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can find this podcast on Twitter and Instagram at

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01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: at bastards pod. Uh. So, I hope you all have

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01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: enjoyed this little nightmare. And uh, by our T shirts

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Speaker 1: on t public. We don't have any Alex Jones shirts yet,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure we'll cook something up, you know. Send

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01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: us a message on Twitter if you have a good

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01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: T shirt idea featuring America's craziest donkey headed shirtless man.

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Speaker 1: Bye for now. H