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Speaker 1: And welcome in. Lake Kick is Live. It is Tuesday night,

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Speaker 1: January thirty first, Dear our Lord, twenty twenty three. People

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Speaker 1: are gonna get paid. Players are gonna get paid. You

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Speaker 1: this might not be one of those players that according

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Speaker 1: to major head coaches all around the country. You're just

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Speaker 1: now starting to hear it. We are jam packed. We

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Speaker 1: are high top and icy downtown Nashville, Tennessee. We are

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Speaker 1: so jam packed. We've actually got a guest on the

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Speaker 1: warm bodies into this studio, but we're gonna have one.

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Speaker 1: He's out in the hallway as we speak. Nick Saban's

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Speaker 1: been saying it. I guess you just finally heard it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I caught win of that little nio kerfuffle. Those those terms,

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Speaker 1: those phrases, those sentences. Dare Nick Saban say them? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I heard it. I've got some things to say about

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Speaker 1: it tonight. If you don't know what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 1: you will in just a second. The Big Twelve release

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Speaker 1: their schedule, The ACC release their schedule. They're like forty

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Speaker 1: seven teams in the Big Twelve. Now, don't worry, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna make sense. Of it. I got everything you need

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Speaker 1: to know on that. There are some things, quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: we couldn't even fit in the show tonight, so we

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Speaker 1: pushed it till Thursday cause National signing days tomorrow. So

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Speaker 1: I want you to get fully up to speed on

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Speaker 1: all the latest scoop that's going on there, and you

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Speaker 1: won't have to hear it from me. You'll hear it

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Speaker 1: from Wilfong because we're gonna bring him right in here.

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Speaker 1: And well, I don't know how long the show's gonna go,

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Speaker 1: but we'll bring him in here before the end of

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Speaker 1: the show. Also, this Jalen Hurts argument that shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: is permeating around the college football sphere. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna waste much time tonight on the isy Alabama izzy Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: There are other places you could go for that. But

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Speaker 1: I do have some stories. I promised I was gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you one in particular about that SEC championship game,

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Speaker 1: not the national title game in twenty seventeen, the SEC

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Speaker 1: title game the next year, and and dare I even

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Speaker 1: mention a story that everyone has forgotten. Dare I mention

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Speaker 1: the story that maybe made Alabama fans little restless going

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Speaker 1: into the twenty eighteen season. See everyone remembers a couple

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Speaker 1: of dates. Title game, Title Game. There was some stuff

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Speaker 1: in the middle that people have forgotten about. We didn't forget.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it tonight. Sureview, Minnesota is tuned in.

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Speaker 1: We thank you so much, as is Savannah, Georgia and Hickory,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. National Signing Day is tomorrow. I can't in

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Speaker 1: strong enough term stress you gotta be following the twenty

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Speaker 1: four seven Sports YouTube channel that is separate from the

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Speaker 1: one you're watching right now, So I appreciate you being here.

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Speaker 1: Please don't get me wrong. It's just nice if you

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Speaker 1: go subscribe to the twenty four to seven channel too,

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Speaker 1: because that's where I'll be tomorrow. That's where a cast

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Speaker 1: of seemingly thousands will be tomorrow and gonna be wall

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Speaker 1: to wall coverage. Still got commitments coming up, Still got

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff breaking. I mean, there is intel

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Speaker 1: being gathered about thirty feet from me even as we speak,

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Speaker 1: and I hope fingers crossed that we can get some

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Speaker 1: of it on the show tonight. In the meantime, let's

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Speaker 1: dive in. I have some things that I need to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about before we talk National Signing Day?

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Speaker 1: Where should I Where should I be with this? You

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Speaker 1: know what, There's no easy way, so I'll just dive

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Speaker 1: into it. Nick Saban had some stuff to say about

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Speaker 1: Nil that Matt, and that'd be great breaking news to you.

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban, quite frankly, has been saying the same stuff

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Speaker 1: a lot of you have been saying. Now, you may

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Speaker 1: on Sabin for saying stuff that you actually agree with.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Ever since that little Jimbo Fisher

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban incident where he was supposed to be off

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Speaker 1: ten or eleven months ago, he hasn't spoken publicly about

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Speaker 1: it a whole lot. But Nick Saban doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: call a press conference to get messaging out. He could

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Speaker 1: do something like, for example, head to Montgomery at the

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban said. He talked about two instants with Nil

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Speaker 1: He was an offensive lineman. And Nick Saban said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: He was basically responding in a Q and A format

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Speaker 1: for those of you who had not heard that, I

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to fly off the handle. Gather

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Speaker 1: in your own mind. How you feel about that? Saban

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Speaker 1: essentially saying a high school player's representatives hit him up

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Speaker 1: but also he didn't use the word extort, but I

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Speaker 1: Not that it happened. I'm asking you how you feel

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Speaker 1: about Saban's comments because I got, quite frankly, a reaction

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Speaker 1: In fact, I did a segment Jesse Colin. I'd say

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Speaker 1: at the time the opposite is actually true. I didn't

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Speaker 1: In fact, they're offering thirty forty fifty percent less in

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Speaker 1: over saying you're saying those programs have never been the

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Speaker 1: They just never push back with tangible evidence. I'm suggesting,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of comments section and they're saying, look at

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Speaker 1: Saban holier than now, acting like they're not paying out

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Speaker 1: NIO money. No, he's not. I've actually listened to him

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Speaker 1: this is about as well as you can have it

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Speaker 1: set up. First off, you get to play the Camels.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you get Campbell on your schedule, it is celebratory

429
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: because not everyone gets to play the Camels. Everyone feels

430
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: like they get to play food Rice is on everyone's schedule.

431
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: The Camels of Campbell not so much. So you got

432
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Speaker 1: Campbell on there anyway, I want you to just listen

433
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Speaker 1: to this. I don't have to look at my piece

434
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: of paper. Collins got it pulled up here. You tell

435
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: me where the road games are. They play South Carolina

436
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: and I think that's in Charlotte. So that's a neutral

437
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: site game. App State at home, Minnesota at home. They've

438
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Speaker 1: got pitt on the road. Then there's a bye week.

439
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: We got to recover from a trip to Pittsburgh. Sarahcuse home,

440
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 1: Miami home, Virginia home. They go to Georgia Tech. Hoops

441
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: is intimidated by that. Right now. They go to Georgia Tech,

442
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: return home against Campbell, home against Duke. North Carolina does

443
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: not play their third true road game until November eighteenth.

444
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: They end the year at Clemson at NC State. Congratulations

445
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: to mac Brown. I don't know who you have pictures

446
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: on in the league office, but congratulations there. I think

447
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: that if you look at the biggest land mine on

448
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Speaker 1: the entire conference schedule, at least among the contenders. To

449
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: go back to Clemson schedule for just a second, there's

450
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Speaker 1: a game on October twenty eighth where Clemson goes to

451
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Speaker 1: NC State. That was the circle game in the conference

452
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Speaker 1: this past year, and it will be one of the

453
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Speaker 1: circle games this upcoming year. They go to NC State

454
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Speaker 1: and you may be thinking, oh, Devin Leary's moved on.

455
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: What's the big deal Brendan Armstrong down there now? Well,

456
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the big deal is. That is

457
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Speaker 1: the second leg of a back to back road stretch.

458
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: So Clemson goes at Miami, then they go at NC State,

459
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: and they've got Notre Dame on deck. Guess who North

460
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: Carolina State plays the week before they play Clemson. Approximately nobody.

461
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: They're off a bye. Anytime you got the back to

462
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: back road stretch and you're playing a team off a by,

463
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Speaker 1: just be heads up about that. These are college football players.

464
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: It matters. November fourth, that weekend is the one I

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Speaker 1: have circled. You got Notre Dame, Clemson, Miami, North Carolina State,

466
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: FSU Pitt and the best week. Also, you could look

467
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Speaker 1: at rivalry week because of course you've got Clemson, South Carolina. Hey,

468
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: that matters again, you got FSU Florida, you got NC

469
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Speaker 1: State North Carolina. So the ACC schedule, that one's finally out.

470
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Speaker 1: And somewhere somebody's saying, you can't talk about schedules in January,

471
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't. Mem meanwhile, used to always tell me

472
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Speaker 1: schedules or a year round thing in college football? You

473
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Speaker 1: know what, cause college football is a year round thing. Period.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mema. Except that we're not done because we're

475
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Big Twelve here. Do you know,

476
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Speaker 1: as of tonight, could you name every team in the

477
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Speaker 1: Big Twelve? Some of you may think you can, and

478
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Speaker 1: many of you actually can. We've got a very informed

479
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: and sharp audience around here, but others amongst us, maybe

480
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Speaker 1: not so much. For instance, Colin, here's your endpoint. The

481
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Speaker 1: Big Twelve schedule has been released. I also credit the

482
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Speaker 1: Big Twelve. Love the timing. Now, I don't know what

483
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Speaker 1: the circumstances were in the room that dictated you had

484
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Speaker 1: to wait this long, but I would tell you, guys,

485
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: just pretend you did it on purpose, because this was

486
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 1: really good. This is really well timed. You pushed it

487
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: all the way to right before signing day, and look,

488
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: everyone's still standing. It's a fact that there have been

489
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Speaker 1: zero fatalities because of schedules being released late, and that

490
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Speaker 1: is courtesy of stats and info. So keep doing it,

491
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Speaker 1: and if anyone complains, tell them, do you guys want

492
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Speaker 1: to secede? Because we've got other folks knocking on the

493
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Speaker 1: door to try and get in the Big twelve nine

494
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Speaker 1: conference games. They're keeping it, but they've gone to fourteen teams.

495
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Speaker 1: Did you hear me? You hear what I said? Yeah,

496
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: they got fourteen teams in this conference now, no divisions.

497
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: UCF is a Big twelve team now, Brigham Young Big

498
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: twelve team, Houston Big twelve, Cincinnati Big twelve. YEP. In

499
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Speaker 1: case you had forgotten which year that was set to

500
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: kick in, it's this one. They're in. They're in as

501
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Speaker 1: of now. There are several big out of conference games

502
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Speaker 1: in the first few weeks of the season. Producer Jesse

503
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Speaker 1: looked at me and said, hey, before you talk about

504
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: the league schedule, listen to this, and he just starts

505
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Speaker 1: rattling off all these games. Everything I'm about to tell

506
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Speaker 1: you happens in the first two or three weeks of

507
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Speaker 1: the season. I think it's the first two weeks of

508
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Speaker 1: the season, easily. The first three weeks. Oregon plays at

509
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech, West Virginia is at Penn State, Colorado at TCU,

510
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Texas is at Bama, Utah at Baylor, Cincinnati at Pitt,

511
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Speaker 1: Iowa at Iowa State, Pitt at West Virginia, and Brigham

512
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: Young at Arkansas. All that happens in the first three

513
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Speaker 1: weeks of the season. God bless the Big Twelve. While

514
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Speaker 1: the ACC is out here playing all kinds of non

515
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Speaker 1: Power five teams, they are stepping up here. There was

516
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Speaker 1: a stat Jesse, you gave me where the ACC. Oh,

517
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it was. Here it is, it's

518
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Speaker 1: on the post. It So the ACC is playing six

519
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: non power five road games this year. They played ten

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00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: of them last year they went seven and three. Jim

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Speaker 1: Phillips is saying, please stop that. There's nothing to be

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Speaker 1: gained from North Carolina going to app State, nothing to

523
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Speaker 1: be gained from that. Please stop that. The Big Twelve

524
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Speaker 1: not doing that, as far as I can see, Oklahoma

525
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: is going to have a rough landing here. And by

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Speaker 1: rough landing, I mean, well, I guess a rough takeoff

527
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: because they're leaving the Big Twelve. But before they do,

528
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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve put a giant headwind in their face

529
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: and said take off against this. Now, I understand that

530
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Speaker 1: for those of you in the Big Ten who have

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Speaker 1: to play Ohio State and Michigan, or those of you

532
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: in the SEC who have to play Georgia Orbama, know

533
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: what I'm about to read you is not going to

534
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: be a murderer's road. I'm trying to save you time.

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00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: You don't have to peck away in the comments and

536
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: trash talk Oklahoma schedule. I am simply telling you that

537
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: going to Kansas to Oklahoma State home against West Virginia,

538
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: and then making a trip to Provo, Utah against Brigham

539
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: Young as your third road game in four weeks is

540
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: not the easiest thing in the world to do. Oh

541
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Speaker 1: and by the way, you then come home if you

542
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: survive all that and you get to play the conference's

543
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: loan playoff representative last year TCU on short rest, they

544
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: get six days prep after three road games in four weeks,

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Speaker 1: including one of them being in Provo, Utah. So I'm

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00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: just saying it's not easy, That's all I'm saying. Also,

547
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: TCU did not get the easiest of draws. The horn

548
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: Frog's last four games at Texas Tech rapidly improving program

549
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: by the way, against Texas at home, against Baylor at

550
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: home at Oklahoma. I mean, look at that November Texas Tech, Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma.

551
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: That's how TCU ends the year. Baylor only four road games, Yo, Dave,

552
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: only four road games. They only leave the state of

553
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: Texas thrice and you know how rarely I use that word.

554
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: They also get to play Long Island, for whatever that's worth.

555
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: They go at UCF, at Cincinnati, at Kansas State, at TCU.

556
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: That trip to Cincinnati, by the way, as you can see,

557
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: is off a bye week. So I feel pretty darn

558
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: good about Baylor this upcoming year. Said it last year,

559
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: I'll say it again this year, and eventually I will

560
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: be right again. The best week I think I'm partial

561
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Speaker 1: to November eleventh, But truthfully, we deliberated about like three

562
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: or four different weekends because this is a very competitive conference.

563
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: It's a pretty balanced conference, and with the additions, you

564
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: have to train your eyes look at Houston or Cincinnati

565
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: on the schedule, and you got to remember, oh, that's

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00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: a conference game now. But this November eleventh weekend, we

567
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Speaker 1: get Baylor at Kansas State, we get Iowa State at

568
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: Brigham Young, we get Central Florida at Oklahoma State, we

569
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: get Texas at TCU and Oklahoma at West Virginia, and

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00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: all that's just happening on one Saturday in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: I love the Big twelve. They don't call me Big

572
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: twelve pay yet, but I love the Big Twelve. They're

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Speaker 1: watching us in Virginia Beach, Virginia tonight, Thibodeaua, Louisiana, and Marilla, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. Got a lot of it.

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00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: I got an inordinate amount of post its. How about

576
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: the first ever post it pop on the show. So

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00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: that's just indicative of a lot of research being done

578
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: by stats. And thank you so much. I got to

579
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Speaker 1: warn you about something before I get into this. This

580
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: is so terrible saying I'm too much on the show tonight,

581
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: but but this still deserves a great big This is

582
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: me just stalling because I don't want to say what

583
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm about to say. The biggest, the biggest moment of

584
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: humiliation in the history of bold predictions on my end

585
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: is forthcoming. That is the tease. Let me give you

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Speaker 1: the five bold predictions we're going back to. These were

587
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: your predictions from August, and some of them crashed and burned.

588
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: But there was one that I gave a nine and

589
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: a half on the boldness scale, and it I'll give

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Speaker 1: you the quotes. I deserve everything I'm about to put

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Speaker 1: myself through. But the first one, the first bold prediction,

592
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Speaker 1: was Hunter saying Arkansas is gonna finish ten or two.

593
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: Ten and two are better and this was never gonna happen. Schedule. Schedule, schedule,

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Speaker 1: That's all I kept saying. I think I said it

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Speaker 1: three times, then I'm going to say it three more times. Now.

596
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: They had the entire SEC slate. Then they had a

597
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Speaker 1: trip to bring me on, and they had liberty on

598
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: the schedule, and it was it was borderline a dereliction

599
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: of all that is holy against the player and coaches

600
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: up there, because there's no real shot against this. Quite frankly,

601
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: seven and six is not even a disaster against the

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00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: schedule they played. And here's the thing about what Hunter predicted.

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Speaker 1: Consider what Arkansas was in twenty twenty one a great

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00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: success story. Right, they went eight and four in the

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00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: regular season, So we're asking them to do two games

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00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: better than they did in their successful year, and we're

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00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: asking them to do it against that schedule. That is

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Speaker 1: just never gonna happen. So I put an eight on that.

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00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: And even with the Liberty Bowl win, they went seven

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00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: and six, so that was not in the cards. Next up,

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00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: this isn't it either, but it's coming. Uh. We had

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Speaker 1: a prediction about Power five champs here Austin said, there

613
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: will be a Power five conference champ that's currently at

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00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: eight and a half wins or less in the over

615
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: under betting line, and this happened. It did, indeed happen.

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Speaker 1: We did have a Power five Conference champ Cavansas State,

617
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: of course, because their preseason over under win total was

618
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: six and a half and they just go on and

619
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Speaker 1: win the Big twelve, a very big twelve thing to

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00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: have happened. The reason why I put a five on this,

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Speaker 1: the reason why I absolutely thought it was going to happen,

622
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: was because in twenty twenty one it happened four out

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Speaker 1: of the five conferences. Think about what I just said.

624
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: That's how crazy the renaissance year was in twenty twenty one.

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00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: Four out of five Power five Conference champs had preseason

626
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: win totals of under eight and a half wins. Pretty wild,

627
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: And so I looked at this prediction and I thought

628
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: it was going to happen. I thought the ACC was

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Speaker 1: the best shot because here's the thing. Clemson was the

630
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: only team in the ACC that had a preseason win

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Speaker 1: total above eight and a half. So my thinking was,

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Speaker 1: if it's anyone other than Clemson, this prediction hit. Well,

633
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: it turns out it wasn't anyone other than Clemson, but

634
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: the prediction still did hit. And with that in mind

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00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: we began. My two were of shame here, Colin, Let's

636
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: just show them the prediction and then I'll tell you

637
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: what I said about it. Adam said, Texas A and

638
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: M is gonna struggle. They will barely become Bowl eligible.

639
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: My response was catastrophic. I put a nine and a

640
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: half on this. I laughed at Adam, who, in reality

641
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: was too kind to Texas A and m Adam himself

642
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: was not willing to predict in reality how bad it

643
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: turned out to be. But I put a nine and

644
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: a half on this. In other words, I said This

645
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: is as bold a prediction as we have gotten. There

646
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: is no way that team is about to miss a

647
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: bowl game or border on missing a bowl game. And

648
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: Jesse provided me with the exact quote I used quote

649
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: Texas A and M has a disaster proof roster. Josh Pate,

650
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: August twenty twenty two. What have I done to myself?

651
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: You've heard of glass ceilings before in world was trying

652
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: to break through them, and it's a noble cause. You

653
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: don't think about the glass floor so much, though. Texas

654
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: A and M did, and they took a few sticks

655
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: of dynamite and they blew right through that thing. And

656
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: whatever you thought was worst case scenario, jimbo Fisher said,

657
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: m M, watch this. And they proceeded to miss a

658
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: bowl game. They didn't struggle to make one. They missed it,

659
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: and they beat LSU at the end of the year,

660
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: and that still wasn't good enough. So Texas A and

661
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: M made fools out of a lot of you excuse me,

662
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: a lot of us, because a lot of us looked

663
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: at him and said a bad year would be seven wins, right,

664
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. I thought seven wins would be

665
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: a bad year. And no, seven losses was a bad year,

666
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: so that one went really sideways. That is the by

667
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: far the highest boldness rating I put on a prediction

668
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: that actually came true as far as we can tell.

669
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 1: Next up, it's depressing. Sammy said, for the second ever,

670
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: we will have five different outright Power five conference champs

671
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: than last year. So all five of the conference is

672
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: going to have a different champ than they did last year.

673
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: I put a seven on this. He went three for

674
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: five SEC. Yes, new conference champ, ACC, Yes, new conference champ,

675
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Big twelve, yep, got a new conference champ. Pac twelve,

676
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: Same old Utah, Big Ten, same old Michigan. And so

677
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: that's that. I you know, I thought that this was

678
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: only a seven, and I thought it was very possible

679
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. If Bama won the SEC, that

680
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: would have qualified for this. If Clemson won the ACC,

681
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: which they did, that would fit this description. If Ohio

682
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: State won the Big Ten, that would fit this description.

683
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: Those were the three preseason favorites in those conferences. I

684
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: needed Texas or Oklahoma to win the Big twelve, and

685
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: this would have fit the prediction. Those were the preseason

686
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: one twos, and in that conference, I needed USC or

687
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: Oregon to win the Pac twelve and that would have

688
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: fit this description. So basically, if nothing more than chalk

689
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: would have held, the prediction would have come true. But

690
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: chalk did not hold. It's a funny thing when you

691
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: start playing those games, not on paper but on real

692
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: football fields. Lastly, Rand said, Auburn will have two one

693
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: thousand yard rushers again for the first time since twenty seventeen.

694
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: I put a nine point nine to eight on this.

695
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: I thought it was unfathomable. It didn't happen, but it

696
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: wasn't quite as unfathomable as I thought. Now, take Bigsby.

697
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: I had no problem picturing him top in a thousand.

698
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: He almost did. He had nine hundred and seventy. That

699
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: wasn't where my problem was, ooh, it's like a I

700
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: got a hiccup streak going on the show. It's crazy.

701
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Robbie Ashford was not necessarily the guy I had in

702
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: mind when I pictured Auburn's second leading rusher. I was

703
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: thinking Jarquest Hunter, who had six hundred and sixty eight yards.

704
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: But Robbie Ashford it had seven hundred and ten. So

705
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: the prediction was two guys over one thousand. We got

706
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: nine seventy seven, ten and six sixty eight, so you

707
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: had three pretty good rushers. They all were over four

708
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: point six yards per carry. I think it's just we

709
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: never got one single one over the one thousand yard mark.

710
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: I will be haunted for days, possibly weeks by that

711
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: Texas and m prediction. I hope the rest of you

712
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: are happy. I hope it was fun for you, because

713
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: it wasn't fun for me. It has been very fun

714
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: for me to watch the guy who is at the

715
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: center of the next conversation we're gonna have, though, keep

716
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: in mind, I got Steve Wolfong coming up. I mean, like,

717
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: I am going to stall as he walks his happy

718
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: little self in here and sits down at the desk,

719
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: live and in person, in like fifteen minutes, maybe less.

720
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that because National Signing Day is

721
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: nearly upon us, and there are still several dominoes left

722
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: to fall. In the meantime, Jalen Hurts is going to

723
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Bammerman eighty five hits us up and says, hey,

724
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: who gets to claim Jalen Hurts Oklahoma or Bama. The

725
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: hook is not in my mouth. I am not gonna

726
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: get drawn into this. This has been possibly the dumbest

727
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: sports debate of our time. It has made me miss

728
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: MJ versus Lebron. It has made me long for Barry

729
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: bondser Babe Ruth, which which previously took the cake. But

730
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: we got a dead serious, like not down, drag out

731
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: social media fight in the streets right now about whether

732
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: Oklahoma or Alabama should be able to claim Jalen Hurts,

733
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: which quite frankly delves into conversation that makes me feel

734
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: a little icky. How about this, how about I watched

735
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: him play for both programs at a pretty high level.

736
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: So if I were Oklahoma, you know what I do.

737
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: I claim Jalen Hurts. And if I were Alabama, you

738
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: know what I would do. I claim Jalen Hurts. And

739
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: that's about the end of the debate. Now, if you're

740
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: asking me which Jersey do I see him in when

741
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: I picture Jalen Hurts, probably say Alabama. But it's not

742
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: like I have forgotten what we're watching right now. It's

743
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: not like I have ceased to remember what he did

744
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma that quite frankly vaulted him into position to

745
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: be drafted where he was drafted. Anyway, that debate if

746
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: you want to call it that. Notwithstanding, I did see

747
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: some conversation gaining traction about how Jalen Hurts and Joe

748
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: Burrow are interchangeable. What are you talking about? And then

749
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: when I asked, what are you talking about? Some people

750
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: came back and said, oh, Josh, think about it. Just

751
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: stink for a second. If Alabama claims Jalen Hurts, why

752
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: wouldn't Ohio State claim Joe Burrow? Because ninety nine point

753
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: four percent of the living, breathing American population has forgotten

754
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow ever existed at Ohio State. Everyone remembers Jalen

755
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: Hurts at Alabama. The dude played like half a dozen

756
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: title games down there. He won championships at Alabama. So

757
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: that's why it's different. So anyway, I'm not going to

758
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: get sucked into that. But what I did, i'd say

759
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: the other day when some of you were asking me

760
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: about this, is I said, you know, the twenty eighteen season,

761
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: which culminated in the SEC championship game where Jalen Hurts

762
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: ended up coming in off the bench and beating Georgia.

763
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: It's my favorite individual game memory that I've ever witnessed,

764
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: and I've seen national championship games in person. I've basically

765
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: any big game you've seen. We've been blessed enough to

766
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: be on the sideline, front and center for it over

767
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: the better part of the last decade. But that eighteen

768
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: SEC Championship game was something I'll never forget for a

769
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: few reasons. Some of them you saw and some of

770
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: them you didn't get to see, but I did. So

771
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about him right now, but I

772
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: do want to set the backstory, because everyone remembers Jalen

773
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: Hurts shut out halftime, Saban benches him, he brings into

774
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: a to a second twenty six to DeVante, Bama wins,

775
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: White and Crimson. Confetti falls all over Mercedes Benz Stadium.

776
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: Everyone remembers that, and everyone remembers the next year where

777
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has been on the bench all year and

778
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: then two it gets hurt and Jalen comes off the

779
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: bench in the SEC Championship game, and not only does

780
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: he win the game, he looks like a better quarterback.

781
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: He has worked his tail off the entire year under

782
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian and is an improved player, which I thought

783
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: spoke volumes and volumes and volumes about his character. But

784
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: there is that word character and two points I want

785
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: to make. One of them just came to me. I

786
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: saw someone talking about this earlier today, and they're dead

787
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: on the money. You know, a lot is made when

788
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: guys get in trouble, when they're from broken homes, and

789
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: everyone wants to talk about the absence of a male

790
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: role model or a father figure. And I'm there for

791
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: you if you're making that point in the right spirit,

792
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: But I also think you should be just as front

793
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: and center when you've got a phenomenal upbringing and not

794
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: only do you have a coach's son, but you've just

795
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: got a model parenting that's been done, and you've got

796
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: a guy who reflects a strong male role model in

797
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: his father. And that's Jalen Hurts. When you listen to

798
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: him talk, when you watch the way he carries himself,

799
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: understand that's not by accident and it didn't just start

800
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: when he went to the University of Alabama or Oklahoma either.

801
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: So for everyone who wants to point out the negative

802
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: side of that coin, just make sure you're there to

803
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: point out the positive side anyway that notwithstanding there was

804
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: a little situation, wasn't there After that twenty seventeen Tua

805
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: to DeVante moment, Jalen Hurst didn't graduate and go to

806
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: the NFL. He had a decision to make. And this

807
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: is where my memory goes when I think about Jalen Hurts.

808
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: The year was twenty eighteen. The month was August. I

809
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: want to say it was like August fifth. It was

810
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: right at the beginning of fall camp. Everyone and their mother,

811
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: including me, thought that Jalen Hurts was going to have

812
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: long transferred away from Alabama because who is the starter, right,

813
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: and so you're gonna transfer. Now this is kind of

814
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: pre transfer era, but it wasn't unheard of for guys

815
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: to be transferring. So everyone thinks Jalen Hurts is going

816
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: to transfer. Here's the thing, though, no one asked Jalen Hurts,

817
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: and that was his message. Come fanday in twenty eighteen,

818
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: right as Bama's open in fall camp, Jalen Hurts has

819
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: not said a word all summer. They go through springball,

820
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: they go through summer conditioning. He hadn't said a word,

821
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: hadn't posted hardly anything on social media, and reporters get

822
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: access to him on that August afternoon, right there in

823
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: Bryantonny Stadium, and he basically held like a thirty minute

824
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: impromptu press conference, and he said some things that really

825
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: rubbed BAMA fans the wrong way at the time, but

826
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: he just spoke his mind. He had some things on

827
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: his heart. He was respectful as can be about it.

828
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: But he said, you know, everyone thought I was leaving,

829
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: and maybe even the coaching staff thought I was leaving.

830
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: No one asked me how I felt. And that includes

831
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: the coaching staff. He said, no one asked me how

832
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: I felt, and I hadn't said anything about it. I've

833
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: tried to stay above board. But essentially what he was

834
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: saying is a lot of folks wanted to put words

835
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: in my mouth. They wanted to assume what I was

836
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: going to do, and no one ever checked with me.

837
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: And then he said, there's been an elephant in the

838
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: room the whole time, ever since he hit that pass

839
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: to Devonte Smith. He said, there's been an elephant in

840
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: the room. People wanted to pretend like it didn't exist,

841
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: and this was a video game. It's real life. I

842
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: want that starting job. He took the starting job from me.

843
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: I want to have it, is what he's saying. I'm

844
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: ready to be a model citizen, but I want to

845
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback at Alabama. I don't have that

846
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: right now, and so he was venting some frustration. I

847
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: appreciated it because he's just a competitor, and truthfully, I

848
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: think Nick Saban appreciated it. With that in mind. Now,

849
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: I want you to remember twenty eighteen to a starts,

850
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: I think he went virtually wired to wire. There may

851
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: have been some minor injury concerns, but it was to

852
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: his team in twenty eighteen. Until we got to Atlanta

853
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: and the SEC Championship game's happening and Tua goes down.

854
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts comes off the bench. Now hit the play button.

855
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts does everything you remember him doing. Jalen Hurts

856
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: wins it. He has a dramatic fourth quarter comeback, takes

857
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: the lead against Georgia. There's a Hail Mary at the end,

858
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: Bama knocks it down. I'm standing like ten yards from him,

859
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: and place goes crazy. The postgame scene on the field

860
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: was as memorable as anything you'll see I think in

861
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: major college football. Because Jamie Erdal, who was sideline reporter

862
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: for CBS at the time, she goes and grabs Nick Saban,

863
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: she grabs Jalen Hurts. Saban is he's got tears in

864
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: his eyes and he's crying, and he's sitting there with

865
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: his arm around Jalen Hurts because he knew. I think

866
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: that he was seeing the last of a dying breed,

867
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: and that is a guy who has potential to be

868
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: a high caliber starting quarterback, sticking around when he's not

869
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback and being a model teammate the entire time.

870
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: And it's almost like he looked at it and had

871
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: appreciation for him as way more than a football player

872
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: by that point. Now, if you were close to the program,

873
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: you were already picking up on that. But I think

874
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: nationally people were shocked. All people knew about Nick Saban's

875
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: relationship with Jalen Hurts nationally was he benched him in

876
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: the title game. And by the way, good for Nick Saban.

877
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: But boy, man, I don't know, how can Jalen Hurts

878
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: like that guy? How can there be any strong relationship

879
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: or bond? Understand competition and you understand how there can

880
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: be You fast forward to that moment Nick Saban's fighting

881
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: back tears. That's what you saw on TV. The reason

882
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: it sticks with me is because I walked with him

883
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: right off the field. I walked with him right up

884
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: the tunnel, and once the head coach at the University

885
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: of Alabama knew that he was out of site from

886
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: cameras and out of sight from media and fans. You

887
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: want to see emotion get turned loose. You should have

888
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: been standing next to me. You should have seen what

889
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: I got to see up that tunnel. I'll never forget it.

890
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: It's one of the most vivid memories that I have

891
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: in my relatively short time covering college football relative to

892
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: what some people have been able to do. Never seen

893
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: Nick Saban like that before or since, never seen anything

894
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: like it. And so that team didn't even go on

895
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: to win the national championship, but that moment in time

896
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: and seeing kind of on the field, but then really

897
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: seeing off the field, what the bond was like between

898
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: those two, how much that player meant to Nick Saban.

899
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: You struggle to put it into words, because really he

900
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: couldn't even put him into words. And then behind the scenes.

901
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: I think part of the reason Jalen Hurts has such

902
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: appreciation for both of these programs, including the one he left,

903
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: is because on the Alabama side of things. Afterwards, everything

904
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: that could possibly be done to facilitate his exit to

905
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: a prime position like Oklahoma was done. And I don't

906
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: think you'll see that very often down the road. I

907
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: just I'm not saying you'll never see it. I said

908
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: last of a dying breed. I don't know that we'll

909
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: never see a player like Jalen Hurts. But there's a

910
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: reason people are making such a big deal about him.

911
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: There's a reason I continue to make such a big

912
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: deal about him. And there's a reason why you got

913
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: two major brands fighting over who gets to claim him.

914
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: It's cause he really is that good. And you want

915
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: someone to look up to. You got a little kiddo

916
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: at home, you want to try and find one of

917
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: those role model pro athletes. That quarterback in Philadelphia is

918
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: a pretty good place to start, all right, what I'm

919
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: about to do here, Colin, you can go ahead and

920
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: start stirring in there. What I'm about to do is

921
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: going to be a little awkward. See it's already awkward.

922
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: There's a full screen slate on your television, monitor, your computer,

923
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: your phone, if you're watching right now. We have to

924
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: make some adjustments, and so I'm gonna do the ad

925
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: read full screen, and there's going to be a lot

926
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: of movement as we bring Steve Wilfong into the studio. Otherwise,

927
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors makes everything we do possible. They

928
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: make the entire show possible. They make it possible for

929
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: us to go coast to coast. We were on the

930
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: road what like twenty eight straight weeks in a row

931
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: something like that column this season, and we've got some

932
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: more plans coming up, and I just want to remind you, guys,

933
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: it's because of that very brand you see on your screen,

934
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935
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936
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: it's about to get a lot more cheery outside. The

937
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: weather is abhorrent in Nashville and all over the Southeast

938
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: right now. But I promise you, because Climateto logically, I

939
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: can make this guarantee, Spring will come, those spring sports

940
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: seasons will come, and you will be able to enjoy

941
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: the outdoors. And I want you to do it right

942
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: after you go to Academy Sports and Outdoors. It is

943
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944
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945
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Speaker 1: a football. I don't care if you don't have the

946
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: hand eye coordination to make contact with a baseball. At

947
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: the very least, you can buy those tents or those

948
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: chairs and go watch your loved ones participate in such activities.

949
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: And also look, break out the grill. I got a

950
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: bunch of great grilling equipment there. Hit the outdoors. I

951
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Speaker 1: got a bunch of great tents out there. So Academy

952
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Speaker 1: Sports and Outdoors your one stop shop for everything that,

953
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Speaker 1: as I like to say, you could possibly need in

954
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: your life. I want you to also remember as we

955
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: get set to talk some National Signing Day here tomorrow

956
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: nine am Eastern Time, eight am where we live. National

957
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: Signing Day coverage begins on the twenty four seven Sports

958
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Speaker 1: YouTube channel. It'll be wall to wall. The affable young

959
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: man that you're about to see seed it across from

960
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: me will be dishing out scoop as he's about to

961
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: do momentarily. We got ivans here, we got a bunch

962
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 1: of people here, and so multiple studios will be taken

963
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: up and we'll bring you all the commitments and all

964
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: the final rankings movements still some things that are unsettled,

965
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: and with that in mind, I'm ready to come back

966
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: into the studio. What a brilliant job director Colin just

967
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: did well.

968
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: Fun.

969
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: How are you doing well man? Thanks for having me on. Yeah,

970
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: so you've been out in the hallway and I've been

971
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: on the show. Anything happened in the last hour.

972
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: Well, I did a lot of research on the ACC

973
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 2: for National Signing Day, So excited to talk a little

974
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: ACC with you.

975
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: Tomorrow out there.

976
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: But nothing big on the trail, you know. Still trying

977
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: to keep up with the Nicholas Harbor recruitment right He's

978
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: the number one ranked athlete in the country out of

979
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: Washington d C. South Carolina is the program that I

980
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: still like to land his.

981
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: You're still South Carolina as.

982
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: We talk right now, and it's the highest ranked South

983
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: recruit or South Carolina recruit class in twenty four seven

984
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: sports history. I believe number sixteen.

985
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: Nationally right now.

986
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: And I really love the way that Coach Beemer and

987
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 2: that staff has bolstered up the offensive line in this hall.

988
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: Got some playmakers like the Carrie Swain at wide receiver,

989
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: and if they can add Nicholas Harbor to that, who

990
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: is you know, I had one college coach telling me,

991
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he's prettier than DK Metcalf, you know right now,

992
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 2: you know, you know that would be another big pickup

993
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: for South Carolina as that program is on the trajectory up.

994
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: But Nicholas Harbor is still talking to other programs, Josh.

995
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you had Marilyn mentioned there this morning, like

996
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: who else is in that? Yeah?

997
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: And our Jeff Erman from the Maryland site says, Mike

998
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: Loxley's going to talk to Nicholas Harbor again tonight. I

999
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: know Oregon is still in touch with the Nicholas Harbor camp.

1000
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 2: Michigan's the fourth finals there, but I think that if

1001
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: anyone's able to turn it from South Carolina, it's more

1002
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: likely that it's going to be Maryland or Oregon. And

1003
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: I think that there's people in the Harbor camp that

1004
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: really like Oregon as well. He took his official visit

1005
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: out to Eugene this past weekend, had a great experience

1006
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: out there. This is a young man that has aspirations

1007
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: of running in the Paris Olympics in two years, as

1008
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: aspirations of being a professional football player, and I know,

1009
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: you know, being a Nike athlete is something that's potentially exciting.

1010
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: Getting to spend some time with Phil Knight on his

1011
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: official visit is something that's certainly special. And you know,

1012
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: getting the role of the red carpet tour of Hayward

1013
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 2: Field and Track Capital USA with something that's awesome. But look,

1014
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 2: South Carolina, I think that's where his best relationships are.

1015
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: I think South Carolina has done the best job of

1016
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: recruiting him from start to finish, from the coaching staff

1017
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 2: for the players on the team to the current recruits.

1018
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: I think he's very comfortable with the people in Columbia,

1019
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: likes the trajectory of the you know, their track coaches.

1020
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: Has has been coaching for twenty seven years there in

1021
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: Columbia and has had a lot of success with international

1022
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: athletes as well, And so I think South Carolina has

1023
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 2: a lot going on here. Late Miami is another school

1024
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: that's still chopping wood on Nicholas Harbor as well. So

1025
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: you guys have filed recruiting for a long time. We'll

1026
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: see if there's any changes in the pulse by tomorrow.

1027
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: But right now as we talk here on Late Kick,

1028
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: I still like South Carolina for Nicholas Harbor.

1029
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: Mike's messed up with mine, not yours. Oregon Big moves tomorrow.

1030
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 2: Well, they're in on a couple of blue chippers. We

1031
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 2: talked about Nicholas Nicholas Harbor, you know, and they're they're

1032
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: also looking to add a defensive defensive back out of Texas,

1033
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: out of California, Roderick Pleasant, who's also one of the

1034
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: fast So Nicholas Harbor's maybe the fastest two hundred meter

1035
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 2: guy in the country. Roderick Pleasant is maybe the fastest

1036
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: hundred meter guy in the country. So he's also a

1037
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 2: coveted track recruit by the Organ staff. But certainly USC

1038
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: their track program is not Choppliver as well. Our colleagues

1039
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: Brandon Huffman, Greg Biggins and Blair and Gula spent time

1040
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: with them at the Polynesian Bowl. They were getting a

1041
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: heavy USC vibe. I've talked to some sources with knowledge

1042
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: of that program, and they also feel good about their position.

1043
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: But I know that Roderick Pleasant and remains in regular

1044
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: touch with Organ, and I think good vibes are being

1045
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: sent towards the Ducks as well. So that's one that

1046
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 2: I still think is a little bit of a toss

1047
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: up going into tomorrow. If you made me make a

1048
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: prediction right now, I'd probably say USC. But that's also

1049
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: kind of piggybacking off the intel of our great insiders

1050
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: out west. But I know Oregon is very alive for

1051
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: Roderick pleasant here down the stretch as well. So Oregon

1052
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: I have a top ten class right now, with a

1053
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 2: chance to move up a little bit more.

1054
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm a big douche Robinson guy, because I remember when

1055
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: we were out at the lead eleven and we're out

1056
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: there watching all these quarterbacks and there's this receiver they

1057
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: keep throwing too, in reality ended up being a tight end.

1058
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: And I eventually said Wilfong, who is that? He said, Oh,

1059
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Speaker 1: that's Duce Robinson, And so I'm looking at him now

1060
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: and he's got five of the stars next to his name.

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00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: You got some Georgia buzz there, I mean twenty four

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00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: seven sports dot Com, by the way, where you can

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00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: see Wilfong's latest signing day scoop. I assume we'll have

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00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: more there in the morning, but as of this morning,

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00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: you were talking about a lot of Georgia buzz. But

1066
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: I mean, so cow kids, so us. He had been

1067
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: a favorite at one point, So where does his recruitment

1068
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: stand well, I.

1069
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: Still think that Georgia is the college football program that

1070
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: he likes the most, and as you know, it's well documented.

1071
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: We talked about Nicholas Harbor, we talked about Roderick Pleasant.

1072
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: Those are two elite multi sport athletes. So is Deuce Robinson.

1073
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 2: You know, this is a young man that's definitely gonna

1074
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: hear his name called in the Major League Baseball Draft.

1075
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 2: How high you're a big baseball guy goes on probably

1076
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: the promises he makes to an organization based on signing

1077
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: bonus and all kinds of language like that. But he's

1078
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: also obviously the number one ranked tight end in the country,

1079
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: and he wants to play football at the highest level

1080
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 2: as well. I think he's uber focused on both baseball

1081
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: and football and seeing how far he can go with Bolt.

1082
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: So I think his college decision is heavily predicated on

1083
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: player development.

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00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

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00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: No program has had better player development at the tight

1086
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 2: end position than Georgia right now.

1087
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: Has a great relationship with Todd Hartley and company.

1088
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: But as Blair and Gulo first reported that, as I'm hearing,

1089
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: I do not expect him to sign tomorrow. I think

1090
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: he's told people. He needs more time, which is a

1091
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: good thing if you're a USC or Texas or Oregon

1092
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: trying to make a move late.

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00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: All right, So take a sip your water over there.

1094
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't have a chalice for you because you have

1095
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: your own at home, but I need to ask you,

1096
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: what's the deal with Jayden and Rashada? What's the latest

1097
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: on him? Like, do I expect to hear anything on

1098
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: him tomorrow?

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00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: Well, I do think that he's going to make a

1100
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 2: decision here this week. You know, there was some talk

1101
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 2: that maybe he goes past Wednesday as well. Think that

1102
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: he's closing in on a decision. You have two finalists.

1103
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 2: You have Arizona State, where he visited two weekends ago,

1104
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: and then you have TCU, where he visited this past weekend.

1105
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 2: Now he's much more familiar with Arizona State and Kenny Dillingham.

1106
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham recruited him for a long time, first at

1107
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: Florida State, then that translated to Oregon, and during his

1108
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: time at Oregon, you know, obviously the Ducks had a

1109
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: top ten scoring offense last year, a top ten overall offense,

1110
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: and then bo Nicks emerges as one of the best

1111
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in college football under Kenny Dillingham's watch after transferring

1112
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: from Auburn where it was a bit up and down.

1113
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: So that offense in that quarterback development real exciting. Plus

1114
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: the relationship with Kenny Dillingham and his brother lives in Tempe,

1115
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: his dad played there, and perhaps Arizona State also recruiting

1116
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: his other brother. I think there's a lot of reasons

1117
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: to like Arizona State here. For Jaden Rashad, a TCU

1118
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: Kendall briles new offensive coordinator, Arkansas was an early contender

1119
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: for him, so he has a report with him, likes

1120
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: Kendall Briles' offense and likes him as a person. Goes

1121
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: to visit TCU to get more acquainted with Sonny Dyke's

1122
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: meets him. You know, they have the Davy O'Brien winner

1123
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: and Max dug and he's a Heisman finalist. They make

1124
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: it all the way to the college football National Championship.

1125
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 2: Dallas Fort Worth area also exciting there. But you know,

1126
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: the more I think about this recruitment and kind of

1127
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: what I just said out there, you know, you gotta

1128
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: like Arizona State, right, I mean I think that they

1129
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: got the most going for them. In this recruitment, and

1130
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: it's kind of up to TCU to give him that

1131
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: same comfort level that I think he knows he'll have

1132
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: at Arizona State. So I like, I like Arizona State

1133
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 2: right now for Jaden Rashada, and we'll kind of, you know,

1134
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens here going into tomorrow.

1135
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: So you and I are going to have a studio

1136
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: all to ourselves tomorrow. Just put us back here and

1137
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna be good to go, and we're gonna be

1138
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: left alone. What do you think Maybe you can call

1139
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: it a storyline if you want to. Maybe the one

1140
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: or two things that we end up talking about a

1141
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: disproportionate amount as the morning slash Early.

1142
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: Afternoon rolls on that we just talked about the biggest

1143
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: names of uncommitted guys, right, so a lot of the

1144
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: Hayes already in the barn nationally. So we're going to

1145
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: break down who had the best recruiting classes and most

1146
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: pivotal recruiting classes. And I think one class really stands

1147
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: out to me is Oklahoma. I mean, this is a

1148
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: program that did not have anywhere close to the year

1149
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: that's the standard for their football program and what they're

1150
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: used to recently under Lincoln Riley, and then just historically right,

1151
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: and then you look at that defense. Brent Venables defense

1152
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: ranked one hundred and twenty ninth in America, Josh, I

1153
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: don't know how many times his defense ranked twenty ninth

1154
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: in America, let alone one hundred.

1155
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: And twenty ninth.

1156
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: So this is a class that's ranked number four nationally

1157
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: that I think is a great foundation for them to

1158
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: start turning around. First of all, they got arguably the

1159
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: best quarterback in the country. You know how I felt

1160
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: about him at a lead eleven. I thought he was

1161
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: the best high school junior in the country going into

1162
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: Elite eleven and nothing that he had as a senior,

1163
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: I think he's a best.

1164
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: High school quarterback that I mean, he is the most upside.

1165
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: He certainly has great upside though, and I know he

1166
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: was the number one quarterback on several college boards, and

1167
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma to land him, I think that's a major

1168
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: coup at quarterback. And then I think that they across

1169
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: the board across that defense on all three levels, landed

1170
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: a lot of potential difference makers to help change the

1171
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: narrative of that defense. And finally you get get things

1172
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: going in the way that Brent Venables and his staff

1173
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: want because that was a rough season for them this year.

1174
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: But this is an.

1175
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: Awesome recruiting class, particularly at quarterback and particularly on defense.

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01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: I love it. Now we gotta get bed because we

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01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: actually have one. You've will phone pleasure at least you

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01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: give it this month for all times too. Pleasure as

1179
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: always reminder one more time twenty four seven Sports YouTube channel.

1180
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: That's where you can be tuned in wall to wall.

1181
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: You see the schedule you saw there on the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the screen until tomorrow we'll be back with Lake

1183
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Speaker 1: Kicklers for director comment for the producer Jesse, I'm Josh Payton.

1184
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Speaker 1: Take care. We'll see you bright and early tomorrow morning.

1185
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Speaker 1: Until the Doublins