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Speaker 1: At least is the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and this is the drive on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. And Matt, it is time to put

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Speaker 2: together with.

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Speaker 3: Dfslan feels all disjointed. Remember he's playing who again.

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Speaker 2: Only twelve games on Sunday and Monday, so it's a

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Speaker 2: smaller site, but six teams. Obviously the Steelers now not

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Speaker 2: part of that. So let's take a look at the

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Speaker 2: streaming defenses. We liked a lot of these defenses earlier

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 3: My mind rate on this because that wasn't.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are thirty nine hundred, the Lions are thirty

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Speaker 2: seven hundred.

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Speaker 3: They play the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Texans against Tennessee are thirty six hundred. The Commanders against

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Speaker 2: Dallas are thirty five hundred, The Vikings against Chicago are

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Speaker 2: thirty four hundred. The Buccaneers against the Giants are thirty

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Speaker 2: three hundred.

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Speaker 3: It's not bad man Jones released today, by the way, folks.

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Speaker 2: The Broncos against the Raiders thirty two hundred.

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Speaker 3: I like that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dolphins against New England thirty one hundred, forty nine,

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Speaker 2: Ers against Green Bay three thousand, Ravens against the Chargers

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Speaker 2: three thousand, Eagles against the Rams twenty nine hundred, the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks against the Cardinals twenty nine hundred, Packers on the

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Speaker 2: other side of that San Francisco game twenty eight hundred.

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Speaker 3: Pretty gonna play that. It seems highly suspect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Rams against the Eagles is twenty eight hundred,

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Speaker 2: the Patriots against Miami twenty seven hundred, Chargers against Baltimore

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Speaker 2: twenty seven hundred, Cardinals twenty six hundred, Bears twenty five

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Speaker 2: hundred Raiders. I'm just looking to see if there's not

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Speaker 2: really a standout here that I look at and go

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Speaker 2: oh on at the bottom. Yeah, although Tennessee Tennessee is

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Speaker 2: twenty three hundred against Houston.

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Speaker 3: It's not terrible sacks look get sacks. I mean the

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Speaker 3: de O linees rough. I don't love that Nico's back

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Speaker 3: and rate a roll. It was kind of a pricey one,

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Speaker 3: but I thought Denver stood out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the cheapest of the of the expensive one

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Speaker 2: AND's still only thirty two hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that one stood out to me. And if you

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Speaker 3: knew Party wasn't playing, that has some interest in Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: But I also think Jarry Alexander's not gonna play, And yeah,

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Speaker 3: then you'd have to shuffle things around if Party does

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Speaker 3: play and all that kind So we'll go.

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Speaker 2: We'll go to Denver. We'll go to the Broncos. They're

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Speaker 2: playing well defensively.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure he'll certain no guard Meyers and no rush.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback at quarterback. Lamar Is eight thousand.

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Speaker 3: Oh it just came across my phone. Brock perty and

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Speaker 3: Nick Bosa out, Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Well does that change our change our minds? On the

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Speaker 2: deep much cheaper of the Packers than Denver. The Packers

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Speaker 3: I should probably double check and make sure that's true,

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Speaker 3: but I think it is as opposed to thirty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're going to keep it in mind. We'll keep it

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Speaker 2: We need some extra money, we can go get him

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Speaker 2: quarterback lamar Is eight thousand, Jalen Hurts seventy eight hundred,

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Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels seven thousand, Patrick Mahomes sixty eight hundred, Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love sixty seven hundred. Jared Goff sixty six hundred.

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Speaker 3: Not bad. I don't like that. He's on fire.

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Speaker 3: That's not bad. He's running.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray sixty two hundred against Seattle, Baker Mayfield against

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Speaker 2: the Giant sixty one hundred, Matthew Stafford fifty nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: Darnold against the Bears fifty nine hundred to against New

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Speaker 3: He's playing well.

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Speaker 2: Gino Smith fifty seven hundred, Anthony Richardson against Detroit fifty

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Speaker 2: Herbert against Baltimore fifty four About that? Why is he

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Speaker 3: Yet they throw a lot now? And that pass defense

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Speaker 3: Country probably believe the Chargers don't run the ball very well, no,

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Speaker 2: Lot, and now they did early, but now it's not

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Speaker 2: been not as good. Cooper Rush against Washington is five

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Speaker 3: I don't trust that.

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Speaker 2: Will Levice against Houston is forty nine hundred.

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Speaker 3: I'd rather go Herbert, and they're twenty second against opposing quarter.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew against Denver forty one hundred. Nah, who would

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Speaker 2: start for Who's I don't even know who San Francisco's

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Speaker 3: I don't either. I think they picked somebody up or

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Speaker 3: promoted someone off the practice squad. But I'm that doesn't

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Speaker 2: I mean, we started Herbert the last two weeks and

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Speaker 3: I know it's all his fault.

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Speaker 2: It's all his fault. We Goeta, We're gonna shake things up.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I didn't mind golf a little price here Golf

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Speaker 2: knicks at sixty three hundred against the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: the Denver is gonna beat up on the Raiders pretty

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Speaker 3: good by the sounds of things. Yeah, and he runs,

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Speaker 3: Oh he runs a lot, Yeah, a lot. I liked Richardson,

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Speaker 3: I liked uh May.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Richardson is fifty six hundred. You know, the last

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Speaker 3: He's sat for a couple of weeks. Yeah, he's only

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Speaker 3: we only have one game sample on that. Yeah, May

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Speaker 2: If you look at his game log, Uh, well, the

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Speaker 3: No, no, and the weapons are a problem. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had he had an eighteen point

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know, I've been I've been using him. Whereas Nicks,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's Knick's a little further along his development.

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Speaker 3: In his last four Brandon Allen, I don't like that

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with it sixty three hundred. Yeah, I like

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Speaker 2: And they don't run the ball particularly well, not great. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, so we need probably to go a little

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Speaker 2: cheaper at running back this week. Tight end first, we

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Speaker 2: can do tight end first. Bowers is sixty three hundred,

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Speaker 2: George Kittle six thousand.

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Speaker 3: I think he's questionable. He's questionable, and I don't want

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Speaker 2: They're number one against opposing tight ends, by the way,

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Speaker 2: bro Dallas, Yeah, Dallas Goddard is forty five hundred. Rams

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Speaker 2: Hawkinson forty two hundred, John new Smith forty one hundred,

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Speaker 2: he's legit, Mark Andrews forty one hundred, Hunter Henry four thousand,

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Speaker 3: He was really quiet last week, but he's a good player.

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Speaker 2: I know, I don't expect him to be that quiet

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Speaker 2: two weeks in a row at this a nice price.

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Speaker 2: Zach Ertz thirty eight hundred, Noah Fant thirty seven hundred,

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Speaker 2: some targets. Jatavian Sanders is thirty four hundred. Kansas City

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Speaker 2: of their weaknesses there too. I kind of like Disley

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Speaker 3: Okay, if you're wanna go cheap, I'm cool with both

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Speaker 2: Which one do you like better? I mean, obviously Disley

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Speaker 2: has a better quarterback. Yeah, he gets more targets too.

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Speaker 2: I think it's more he's a little safer. He is

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Speaker 2: less competition at his own position too. Let's go Will

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Speaker 2: Disley at thirty five hundred. That gives us a little

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Speaker 2: extra cash. We'll spending money. Yeah, I still don't want

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Speaker 3: McCaffrey is eighty five hundred. I don't trust him yet.

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Speaker 2: A Chan seventy five hundred, Kyron Williams seventy four hundred,

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Speaker 3: Him a lot. He's clearly the one. It's not even

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs is sixty eight hundred, David Montgomery sixty seven hundred.

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Speaker 3: She wts some interest in Gibbs too. In that line's backfield.

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Speaker 2: Cuba Hubbard is fifty sixty six hundred.

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Speaker 3: Brooks is gonna play. They announced that today.

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Speaker 2: James Connor sixty five hundred, Aaron Jones sixty four hundred,

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Speaker 3: Turn Jones of any injury designation, uh no.

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Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy is six thousand. They're twenty seventh against opposing

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Speaker 3: He's gonna catch a ball too, They don't.

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Speaker 2: They haven't thrown him the ball, like I thought that

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Speaker 3: that changes now with the let's get the guy, let's

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Speaker 3: I think that's coming, but it might be next year. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: nineteenth against the football. Watch Tony Pollardy fifty eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter now. Eklar fifty six hundred. Dallas is twenty

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Speaker 2: ninth against opposing running backs. Brian Robinson's fifty six hundred.

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Speaker 2: Rico dal Dell against Washington fifty five hundred.

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Speaker 3: Uh Rashad a lot of like in this neighborhood. RASHAWB.

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Speaker 2: White fifty four hundred, Bucky Irving fifty three hundred.

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Speaker 3: I prefer Irving to White.

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Speaker 2: Javonte Williams against Vegas twenty fifty two hundred.

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Speaker 3: We're pretty invested in Denver. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Raheem Moster is five thousand, Devin Singletary forty nine hundred.

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Speaker 3: Just looking to see if there's a.

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Speaker 3: Maybeah, you would think you get them five targets.

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Speaker 2: We can afford a big dog. AJ Brown seventy eight hundred,

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Speaker 3: He gets a lot of targets. He's for the featured guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see what that leaves us.

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Speaker 2: Now we can average sixty five hundred for three.

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Speaker 3: The pricey guys. Nico was my favorite, but there was

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Speaker 3: My laptop just shut down. No, you gotta be kidding,

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Speaker 3: Help at the moment. No, it does not. Do you

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Speaker 3: think we lost all that? Probably? Probably? Yeah? That was

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Speaker 2: Well, oh and I remember I remember what it was.

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Speaker 3: Get something, something, something really good should get a big

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Speaker 2: Of course, if we'll put him in and he goes

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Speaker 3: Get Nico's cheaper than Saint Brown by about one thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: It's harder to read and deal with the old folks.

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Speaker 2: Like I will say this, he targeted the tight ends

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Speaker 3: No, it's an easy throw for quarterback to get it

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Speaker 2: It's a long night. I didn't get to bed last

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Speaker 3: So how long did you have to hang at the stadium?

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Speaker 2: I got out of there right around twelve thirty, go

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Speaker 3: Right the rest of it and with the rest of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty miles an hour on the interstate as you're

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Speaker 3: How about this, Why don't we go to break? Let's

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Speaker 3: do that. Yeah, it'll take you like a pretty good

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. And we did get our fantasy lineup

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Speaker 3: Made some changes in the break too, made some changes.

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Speaker 3: We did tivot. Isaiah Isaiah's Schoonmaker. That's not his name,

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Speaker 3: but close to that.

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Speaker 2: Luke Schoomaker. Who's Isaiah Schoonmaker. He's somebody too.

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Speaker 2: Luke Schoonmaker is twenty five hundreds an Isaiah Scoonmaker, plenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. I mean he's starting tight end.

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Speaker 2: He's going to start this week, and they're going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have a lot of weapons.

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Speaker 2: Bo Nexit quarterback at sixty three hundred, Tyrone Tracy at

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Speaker 2: And I guess I mentioned it's kind of a.

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Speaker 3: Not a fool now obviously have one in the book.

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Speaker 3: We got six teams on buy. So there are some

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Speaker 3: and there's some good stuff. And all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: Minnesota favored by three and a half, the over under

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of games I love against the

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Speaker 2: They're getting the things figured out a little bit, yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's on the road.

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Speaker 2: It could be weather I have I'm assuming there's some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little better last week, but this

439
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: could be a Steeler like game though. Good. I don't

440
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: know that the Vikings are a great team. Oh I

441
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: don't think so.

442
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: They've been squeaking by but yeah, I do like the Vikings.

443
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 3: Well, it was a spread again three and a half. Yeah,

444
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 3: it's a good spread. I think the spreads are really

445
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 3: dead on this week.

446
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,479
Speaker 2: The Lions are at the nine to one, lines are

447
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 2: at the five and six Colts. That's a one o'clock game.

448
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: Detroit favor by seven. The over under forty nine and

449
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: a half. This is a spread that I like because

450
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: it's the Lions over the Lions. Just put it on

451
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: teams they do.

452
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 3: I think the Colts can hang. I would not pick

453
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: them even with seven. But one of my favorite things

454
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 3: of the week is the over in that game.

455
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lions might hit over. I think they're already

456
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: nine and a half. They might do it themselves. I

457
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: like them to get the thirty plus.

458
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. So this was the first time.

459
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: Since twenty seventeen that the Cults are seven point underdogs

460
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: at home. That was against the Steelers in twenty seventeen.

461
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, seven at home. It's a lot.

462
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: Lions are really hard to bet against right now, say

463
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: the least at three and eight. The Patriots are at

464
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 2: the four and six Dolphins, Miami favored by seven and

465
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 2: a half, the over under forty six and a half.

466
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 3: I think it's a really good line. I think I'm

467
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 3: playing well. I'm a big May fan. I could easily

468
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 3: see a backdoor cover. They really need to win this one,

469
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 3: and I think they do win it, and I think

470
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 3: they could sneak into the playoff conversations here in a

471
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. I'd probably go Miami, but I don't

472
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Speaker 3: love it. Yeah, I'm gonna say that about it. There's

473
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 3: a lot of these lines this week I think are

474
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 3: really tough.

475
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 2: The Buccaneers at four and six, are at the two

476
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 2: and eight Giants. Tampa Bay favored by six coming off

477
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: of bye, as are the Giants. Uh the over under

478
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: forty one and a half. Unless it's extreme weather or something.

479
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: I think Tampa rolls those guys.

480
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too. Mike Evans expected back for this one.

481
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 3: They should run all over him.

482
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito, not the guy that was in the four seasons,

483
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 2: is a quarterback. I don't think this is like when

484
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: it's better off with Tommy DeVito from the four seat.

485
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: He was a tough little sob was he? Oh yeah,

486
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: people up on stage or what he had? He was

487
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: in prison a few times.

488
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: Well, okay, that's like Leonard Skinner's lead singer. You didn't

489
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: mess with him either.

490
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito is a tough row Yeah, he was Jersey boy.

491
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: I like the Bucks in that game, though, I do too,

492
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: pretty heavily. Yeah, Tommy DeVito is not good. No, No,

493
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 3: I think they're trying to tang Yeah.

494
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: Uh and seven the Cowboys are at the seven and

495
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: four Commanders. Washington favored by ten the over under forty

496
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: five and a half.

497
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: Well, it's a lot. It's a lot of points, and

498
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 3: I think Parsons makes that defense a lot better. Washington's

499
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: come back to earth a little bit, but they're coming

500
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: off a bye. Are they ten points better than a

501
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 3: division foe? I guess I'd take Washington, but I wouldn't

502
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: touch it. Yeah, I don't. I don't love it.

503
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: But if this game does turn into a blow and

504
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: I think certainly the Commanders are capable and they've lost

505
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: two in a row, I know so maybe there's just

506
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: an opportunity for them to Hey.

507
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 3: We think the buye is good for Daniels and yeah,

508
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 3: I'm not sure he's been one hundred percent the last

509
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: couple of weeks either physically. Yeah.

510
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: I think the Ribs are much better now they get

511
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 2: Robinson back.

512
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a lot of good momentum stuff for them. Yeah,

513
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: they've lost in a row. I think I like the

514
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: Commanders big in this one. Ueah, I do. I would

515
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: take them if I had to pick the two. Yeah,

516
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: that was in a bad place.

517
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 2: The nine to one Chiefs are at the three and

518
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: seven Panthers Kansas City favored by ten and a half,

519
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: the over under forty five and a half. I wonder

520
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: what the games are going to be in Pittsburgh on Sunday.

521
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: I haven't even looked, but this is are on TV.

522
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: This is not an attractive one o'clock window.

523
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: No, it's not a great week. I mean, some good

524
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 3: teams on by Obviously we're not getting a Steeler action.

525
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 2: I like Carolina, the AFC North teams, Cincinnati's on by.

526
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: The Steelers in Cleveland just played, because that would one

527
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: of those would usually be and then Baltimore's Monday night.

528
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: Everyone. You're not getting that right, right, right, Sunday is

529
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: going to be.

530
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 2: Sunday is going to be like what games will we get?

531
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: We're going the national games?

532
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy, obviously, I guess the Chiefs went big. They

533
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: never beat anyone huge, but they really don't. But they

534
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I think their defense will really Yeah. The

535
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 3: Panthers offense is predicated on their ability to run the football.

536
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: I think they'll struggle to do that against against the Chiefs.

537
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: And that means it's all on young shoulders and they're

538
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: not ready for He's not ready for that. They don't

539
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: have the weapons for that. No, And I just think

540
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: the Chiefs they didn't get embarrassed, but they got dealt

541
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: their first loss. They're going to come to play. But

542
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 3: all that being said, they'll probably win by ten. Yeah.

543
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: You know there's a question for you. Do they bring

544
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: Pacheco back for this game or they wait? I have

545
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 3: we have hot in the lineup, so we we'll need

546
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 3: to Uh.

547
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: I've heard no news on that whatsoever. I mean, he

548
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: wants to come back, but I would not bring him back.

549
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: There's no rosed We need to pivot off hunt if

550
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: he does.

551
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, we'll just go to Eklar in the in

552
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: the running back and maybe throw Brian Robinson in. No.

553
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: Okay he was yeah, uh yeah, I think that. I

554
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs blow these guys out there too, the

555
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: two and eight Titans. This is also a one o'clock game,

556
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: two and eight Titans at these seven and four Texans.

557
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: What's the spread again? Houston favored by seven and a half.

558
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: The over under is forty and a half.

559
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: I thought it was over seven. I love it to

560
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: be under seven. Yeah, but I also think that Levis

561
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: is gonna throw one or two to the other team.

562
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: Will Anderson's back Hunter's playing really well. I don't like

563
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: the Titans offensive line at all. Ridley's been really good,

564
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: but he's in Gastingley. I think it's a bad matchup

565
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: for the Titans offense.

566
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: Stingley's okay, you keep talking about I think he's a

567
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: good player. I don't know he's a great player. I

568
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: think he's a top three corner.

569
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, it certains ahead of him, but not many more. Uh.

570
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 2: Moving to the four o'clock window, we got the six

571
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: and five Broncos at the two and eight Raiders. You've

572
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: got Denver favored by six the over under forty one

573
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: and a half.

574
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: That's what I do feel good about Denver all day long.

575
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raiders seem like they've rimage given up the ghost.

576
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they're in a really bad spot. Yeah,

577
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: that's actually on my favorite pickure of the week. How

578
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: about this.

579
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: The Raiders have lost to seven straight rookie starting quarterbacks

580
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: since twenty twenty. Wow, that's really hard to do it.

581
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: Think about Tomlin's record. Tomlin's what twenty six and five

582
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: or whatever against rookie quarterbacks.

583
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: A lot of those rookie quarterbacks are like the backup

584
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: because someone's got I mean, we've had so many starting

585
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 3: quarterbacks over the last couple of years, rookies have been

586
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: thrown in there. I mean that's terrible. Yeah, it's not good.

587
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: No, Bronco's four to zero against the spread his favorites

588
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: this season. They've covered five straight games in that role.

589
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: I think if people don't realize that they're good, I

590
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: think they do. Again, Yeah, I do too. Well.

591
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: I guess this will be the national game at four

592
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: thirty the five and five forty nine Ers at the

593
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 2: seven and three Panic Packers. Green Bay favor by two.

594
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: The over under forty seven and a half way bet

595
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: that changes, I definitely agree. It's probably moves up to

596
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: four or five points.

597
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, yeah, Allen, I mean it's not even

598
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: like a brand name guy Debo hasn't looked good. Bosas

599
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: out as well. Yeah, I mean that might be a

600
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: total blowout.

601
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Packers roll them. Yeah, coming off

602
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: of bye at the end, that would drop the forty

603
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: nine ers to five and six.

604
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: That might be the end of the road. I mean

605
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: maybe they could still win the division. They could, but

606
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: they also fourth in the division. Yeah, I mean they

607
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: got a lot of people to climb over to. Yeah.

608
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Uh, it's six and four. This is a big

609
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: game for them, actually, forty nine Ers. Oh, it's six

610
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: and four Cardinals at the five and five Seahawks. It's

611
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: for twenty five game. Arizona favored by one in the

612
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: over under forty seven and a half.

613
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: I think that opened with Seattle favored by it did,

614
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: and it was it's moved all over. I don't know

615
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 3: what to think of this. Shung me me neither. I mean,

616
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: it's just such a young coach and it's a tough

617
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: place to play. But their home record is as good

618
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: as you think it is.

619
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: The Cardinals play there every year, it's they're going to

620
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: be surprised.

621
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals offense is the best unit of

622
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: the group, and the defense plays hard. I think they

623
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: get a win on the road. I would stay away,

624
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: but I think I'll go. I'll go with the Cardinals

625
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: as well. I think they just have a little bit more. Yeah,

626
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: I tend to agree, but I think that's a fun

627
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: game to watch, not a fun game to bet.

628
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: On the Sunday night game, the eight and two Eagles

629
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: are at the five and five Rams Philadelphia, favored by

630
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: two and a half. The over under forty eight and

631
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: a half. Do Philly fans take over that stadium again?

632
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: That's another one. I feel very strong about. The ones

633
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: I like a lot this week are Denver, Philly and

634
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: the over in the Lions game. I think Philly is

635
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: really good and on both sides of the ball.

636
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they I think they beat them up

637
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: and the Rams defense just isn't. Offensively, the Rams are good,

638
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: are a playoff team.

639
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, and when Cupp and the Coop are out there,

640
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: they put up number. Yeah. Defensively, they're not defensively they're not.

641
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: There could be a lot of points in that game. Yeah,

642
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: I don't know what's the over eight and a half.

643
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: I will go over on that too, Yeah. Yeah, and

644
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: the big one Monday Night. I don't know what to

645
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: think on this one either, even and four.

646
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: Ravens are at the seven and three Chargers Baltimore favored

647
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: by three, the over unders fifty and a half. Chargers

648
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: have the number one scoring defense in the league.

649
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, are the Ravens still the number one scoring offense?

650
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: Probably the Lions. I think the Lions passed. Yeah, I

651
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: think this is kind of like raven Steelers. You know,

652
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: you were just familiarity Harbor of Varus Harbaugh. I just

653
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: want points.

654
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: They get a lot of coaches from two really good quarters, right,

655
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Chargers have a bunch of former Ravens coaches.

656
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: They got a bunch of former Ravens players. Yes, and

657
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: they know Michigan ties. And I mean it's I just

658
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: want points. Yeah, I'll take the points at home in

659
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: that one.

660
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: We definitely want the Chargers to win that game.

661
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're a Steelers fan, you definitely want the

662
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: Chargers to win that one. But you've beaten both of

663
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: these teams right right, So in the Grand so you

664
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: might play one of them in the playoffs, you might

665
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: play one in the playoffs. And the only way a

666
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 2: tiebreaker comes into affect against the Chargers is if you're

667
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: a wild fare wildcard team, so whereas a tiebreaker against

668
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: the Ravens is an effect in the division. So yeah,

669
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: if you're a Steelers fan, you want the Ravens to

670
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: lose this one absolutely, And then suddenly that loss on Thursday.

671
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: Night, I think it's canceled. I think it's washed away.

672
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: Cancels out, and I think it's a tough spot for

673
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: the Ravens.

674
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it really is. Again, Herbert's playing great familiarity,

675
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: brother versus brother. Yeah, I think I'd be concerned if

676
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: I was a Ravens Yeah.

677
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean, in this situation, do they have to try

678
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: something different or outside what they would normally do because

679
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: it's the Spider Man meme?

680
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I was thinking that too, But

681
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: didn't harbaughd just pay for that against Steelers? Like I

682
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: would be like, Man, we got away from Henry last week.

683
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: Let's not do that again. Let's go back to our

684
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: bread and butter.

685
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: But Chargers run defenses ps right to.

686
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: Their strengths, and brother knows that you know, and brother

687
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: knows that I know, And I could certainly see something

688
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: wonky on special teams, fake punt, something goofy like that.

689
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: Chargers are actually good on special this year, which is

690
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: really interesting to say, because the Chargers are never good on.

691
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: Special example of why higher like that makes all the

692
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: sense of the world. Yeah, you know, I just want

693
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: points because I don't know who's gonna win. I think

694
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: the Chargers win it, outright. I could absolutely see that,

695
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: absolutely could see that. Yeah, how much I think the

696
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: Ravens are the better team, and I don't know homefield

697
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: advantage matters much, But I can't get over the fact

698
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: that these guys know each other their life, you know

699
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: what I mean, They know their tendencies. They probably talk.

700
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if they talk daily, but they probably talked.

701
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: I bet each other next year and there all the

702
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: time this week, your brother. You know, I don't know

703
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: if they text as much as we text, But no,

704
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: I like the Chargers plus points there for sure. Yeah.

705
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, overs in Ravens games this season are nine to two.

706
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: Huh, that makes sense. They've allowed a lot of big plays.

707
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: Most in the most in the league's fifty and a

708
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: half in this one, I forget was Steelers Ravens over.

709
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 3: It did not go over. Okay, I was close, right,

710
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: it wasn't right, a little under the number. No, it

711
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: was forty eight and a half. They didn't know that

712
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: was the number one. Yeah, yeah, this could be a

713
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: real low scory. I don't know.

714
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: Let's remember this is back to back road games for

715
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: the Ravens as well.

716
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, give me three points a game like that.

717
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 3: I'm impressed with the Chargers. They're further along than I expected. Yeah,

718
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: colored me shocked as well. Yeah, I just thought they

719
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: didn't have enough horses. I thought they'd be good next year. Yeah.

720
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: And Herbert's playing well to your point, and I think

721
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: he will. You know now now that the Ravens have

722
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: the changes that they put out there on the field

723
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: against the against the Steelers, well you did that now,

724
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: you just gave the Chargers okay when they did it

725
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: to the Steelers, Yeah, Steelers had no you know, we

726
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: don't know you're going to play Hamilton at free safety.

727
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: We don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well now you've seen it.

728
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: One thing it does work? Does Roquan Smith play. I

729
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: don't if my Conky plays, he's questionable. Yeah, and they're

730
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: just a little light on weapons and he's definitely their

731
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: best guy. Yeah, that's still I think it's going to

732
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: be close. Yeah. I can't stress that.

733
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, But that's what this week's slate of games.

734
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 2: It picks up, picks up for the night games. Sunday

735
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: night and Monday night games are inter being.

736
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: Out doesn't help the cause. And there's not a lot

737
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: of headliners.

738
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what what is the national game?

739
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: Vikings Bears, yuck. I bet that's going to get a

740
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: lot of views, Lions, Colts. Maybe Lions are very viewable. Yeah, Patriots, Dolphins, God,

741
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: I hope not.

742
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: I would think.

743
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 2: Buccaneers Giants. I could see them making that the national game,

744
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: and I would just want to throw up in my mouth. Uh,

745
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: Cowboys Commanders could be the national game, and that would

746
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: make me want bad though.

747
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see how Washington rebounds from there by though. Yeah,

748
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 3: there's a lot of teams.

749
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 2: I don't to watch the Chief Panthers and that doesn't

750
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: really excite me a whole lot. For the one o'clock window, Titans, Texans,

751
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: that's not going to be the national game. Yeah, there's

752
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: not much at one o'clock. I'm gonna want to watch, but.

753
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: No, oh yeah, I'll have Breadzone on.

754
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joy, we're watching my fantasy team kick Moore butt.

755
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: But anyways, let's get to another break. He is the

756
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the

757
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I

758
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: will continue to we'll get back to I should say,

759
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: decompressing the Steelers lost Thursday night at Cleveland right after this.

760
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

761
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

762
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

763
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly.

764
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson, and this is the Drive

765
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. And just getting back to

766
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: Steelers Brown's Sunday night or Thursday night. I should say,

767
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 2: my brain is just not working today.

768
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had a long one, but once you're driving

769
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: disappointing loss to be sure. Happy birthday belated. By the way,

770
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: the last time we were here was your birthday. Nobody

771
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: knew you got to drive to Cleveland. I got to

772
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: drive the Cleveland on my birthday, had a pretty exciting stuff,

773
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: a couple of cocktails at the Winking Lizard next to

774
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: the hotel. Nice. Nice did the you do the pregame

775
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: with Benzi? It was fifty fiftieth Brinday. Yeah, yesterday Bill

776
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: Hillgrove birthday mentioned that you guys are all right together.

777
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: He's now eighty four. Nice still at it. Yeah, good

778
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: for Billy, that's awesome. Yeah.

779
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: I didn't realize Benzi's birthday was the next day, but

780
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: fifty that's a milestone birthday.

781
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. We were walking in together and somehow I mentioned

782
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: the word birthdays, like, oh it happened to be my

783
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: fiftieth birthday. I'm like, that's cool.

784
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: Still looks like he's twelve, but yeah, you know, yeah, look,

785
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's not falling, folks, it's not. And again,

786
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: you look at that game. Both teams averaged five point

787
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: five yards offensively per play. The Steelers averaged three point

788
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: five yards per carry, the Browns averaged three point one.

789
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: Steelers were seven to sixteen on third downs. The Browns

790
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: were one for ten. Yeah, I can't get away from

791
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: the difference between The Steelers were one for three on

792
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: those quote unquote weighty downs on those fourth downs, so

793
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: overall they're they're eight for nineteen on those possession downs

794
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: and the Browns go four for four and fourth downs,

795
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: so they're five.

796
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: For fourteen fourth third down conversions were as much as

797
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: the story is anything, you know, and it's a small deal.

798
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 3: You got to you gotta move bodies, you got to

799
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 3: get those those plays. Some of them are a little

800
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: slow developing for my taste too. Yeah, that was the

801
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: other thing.

802
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: It was kind of like, I don't if that was

803
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: the one that I would play right.

804
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: And McCormick stepped on a foot or something when he

805
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 3: was pulling on the first one to kind of screwed

806
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: up the timing of things too. You know, these things happened,

807
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 3: but if it happens on First Island, no one cares.

808
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: If it happens on fourth, everyone cares. Yeah, I don't know.

809
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: I mean, they really struggle third Thursdays on the road.

810
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: They really struggle lately in Cleveland, and I thought the

811
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: Browns played really well, you know, for where they have

812
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: throughout the course of the year. I think that there

813
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: was some optimism around Jamis and their receivers and Conklin

814
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: played really well against Watt with a lot of help.

815
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: But I don't think all of a sudden the Steelers

816
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: forgot how to rush the passer. You know, like I'm

817
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: starting to wonder about that. You don't think you were

818
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: worried about Seelers pass rush. They got twenty three sacks

819
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 3: this year. I know it's low. I mean.

820
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: They're they're taking again, they're taking the reservation, rushing the

821
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: pastor they're getting they're getting the pressure, but they're not

822
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 2: gett Now. I understand a lot of times it's a

823
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: lot of rhythm passing and people are getting the ball

824
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: at early against and I thought.

825
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: The time to throw is really low in this game, though.

826
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: I don't know that it was, but I thought they

827
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: they the Browns did enough of it. Where Winston was,

828
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: he wasn't holding the ball like, he wasn't pushing the

829
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: ball down the field like Jameis Winston typically does.

830
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 3: One of the next Gen stats that came out about him,

831
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: I thought was interesting is he was very ordinary from

832
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: the pocket, but when he was on the run, which

833
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: they defined is moving eight miles an hour faster, So

834
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 3: you're moving pretty good. You're not just kind of trickling

835
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: to the left or right. He was really effective and

836
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: you don't think of him in that light. But he's

837
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 3: lost a lot of weight since he's coming to the league.

838
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: He's in a lot better shape. He used to have

839
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: a softer body, and you haven't seen much of him

840
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. Maybe he's gotten better, you

841
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And he can certainly throw the football. Yeah.

842
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 2: The Steelers now have twenty five sacks on the season.

843
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: That puts him in the bottom third.

844
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: Of the league. It shouldn't be there. It shouldn't be there.

845
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: It can't be there. I still think it's the best

846
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: defensive front in the league, but it needs to be

847
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: I still think they can rush the passer. Now, can

848
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: we get those into sacks. That's what I thought was

849
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: coming in this game.

850
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: That's what I did to me that that was the

851
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: biggest disappointment for me if they didn't get more pressed

852
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: because when they pressured Winston, oh yeah, bad balls.

853
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he felt it, he pushed it and you know,

854
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: through a pick and the grounding slash, you know whatever,

855
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: was under a lot of pressure. One of my things

856
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: speaking of Benzie, you know, pre pregame show, I was saying,

857
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm expecting a dozen plus sacks the next two games.

858
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: These these two Ohio team a long way to go now.

859
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: I think Burrow is gonna get his share of hits too.

860
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna all of a sudden think that they're

861
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: gonna get one sack against since he and I haven't

862
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: broke them down much, but their lines aren't very good.

863
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 3: I just thought these pocket passers would be sitting ducks

864
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: against what I think is a great pass run. But

865
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: I do think the weather affected that some. Oh yeah,

866
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: the second half, neither team was rushing the pass.

867
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all four of cleveland sacks came in the first half.

868
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: They didn't get to the quarterback in the second half.

869
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Steeter's got some pressures late, but it's

870
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 3: obviously a lot harder to do. I'm just looking harder

871
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: to change direction, I mean, get off.

872
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 2: Part of the problem. Winston only threw the ball eleven

873
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: times in the first half. Okay, right, it was eleven.

874
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: It was those guys were hardly ball, hardly hit the

875
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: ground the first half.

876
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: Ye oh yeah, I mean Wilson I think hit on

877
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: his first eleven pass, I think so.

878
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

879
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: I think his first incompletion was a throwaway. Yes, I'm

880
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: pretty sure it was. But Winston was nine of eleven

881
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: for seventy eight yards in the first half, so he

882
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: wasn't pushing the ball down. It was a lot of

883
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: sideway stuff, and I think I think they realized in

884
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: the second half that hey, the pass rushers aren't going

885
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: to get home in this instance, in this situation, and.

886
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: That's that's Shamus. Yeah, let's start. So let's start.

887
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: We can only we can go down the field a

888
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: little bit more.

889
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: Starting to come to the conclusion that Jerry Judy's better

890
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 3: than I thought too. I mean, I thought he played

891
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: well and I always thought, why did the Browns go

892
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 3: after this guy? Why did they give him that money?

893
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: Starting to get that investment back out of him. He's

894
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: not a superstar. I mean, he's never going to live

895
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 3: up to his draft status. But I thought he played

896
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: a good game too. Yeah. Now their receivers are good,

897
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: solid group, just a solid group. Yeah. And they had

898
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: some drops too, they did. I mean, they definitely had

899
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: some drops they did. About the game Elliott played, he's yeah,

900
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: I mean, playmaker And so I mentioned I did that

901
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: show with Wolf and Rob and we finished it just

902
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: by saying two were a handful of guys who were

903
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: really impressed with in this game from the Steelers, you know,

904
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 3: end on a bright note, and some of the names

905
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 3: I came up with were Warren, I liked Friar, Moose usage,

906
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: he played more snaps and use more.

907
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: He used more, yes, exactly, and I hope that's the

908
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 2: sign of things of com Yeah, four for fifty nine

909
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: because it can't all be pickings, No, they.

910
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: Need to find more. And I don't know if Mike

911
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: Williams is ever going to be that guy or what

912
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: he was out there or some but not a major

913
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: difference maker. And they used pickings on a couple more

914
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: in breakers and some quick slants and things like that.

915
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: They have to attack the middle field more because it's there. Yeah,

916
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 3: it's very much there. Some defensive guys that stood out

917
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: to me too were another really good Queen game Elliott Jackson,

918
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: Herbig you know. So, I mean there were positives. I mean,

919
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: there were some good performances for sure. Yeah, but you

920
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: need your stars to be stars, and you can't lose

921
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: in the margins on special teams and things like that too.

922
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: I mean it was the first time I would say

923
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 3: this year that they were the inferior special teams unit.

924
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: That game, that their inferior. They had a bad game.

925
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 3: Well that's what I mean. I mean, like, like I

926
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: think Browns were better on teams than the Stields were

927
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 3: in that game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I'm not saying

928
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: they have a better unit going forward.

929
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean, what did you see or did they mention?

930
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: Because I didn't get the chance to watch it. The

931
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: opening kickoff of the game, Hopkins kind of squibs it

932
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: up there. I thought it landed outside of the twenty.

933
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: It landed right around the twenty yard line, but I

934
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: couldn't tell.

935
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: I'm not sure about that at all.

936
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: And Patterson picked it up and ran with it. I

937
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: think he thought. He kind of indecisive about it a

938
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: little bit, a little bit, and then I saw him

939
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: talking to the officials. Effort was like saying, no, that

940
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: bounced outside the twenty and they never like, that's that's

941
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: never came. That's something that can be reviewed. Yeah, and

942
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be reviewed. I'll look at I'll look

943
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: into it, and I like, watch that play again, and

944
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: it looked like it landed outside of the twenty. So

945
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers should have gotten the ball in that situation

946
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: if the ball lands before the twenty, I was supposed

947
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: to get a the forty yard line.

948
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you think that Patterson thought that it did. Yeah, Okay,

949
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was even brought up or

950
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: if I was just getting geared up as the game

951
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: was starting and not paying enough attention. And I thought that.

952
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: I thought the Browns return game was like we say

953
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: that the Browns outplayed the Steelers special teams and while

954
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: you missed a kick and you a bad punt, they

955
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: had a bad punt too.

956
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did have a bad punt.

957
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: And they had a play where the back fumbles the

958
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: ball into the end zone. That was a weird one

959
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: to me too, Like they get that at the twenty.

960
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: They didn't talk enough about that on it. I mean,

961
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: that's technically the rule because if you take the ball

962
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: back into the end in that situation, if you fumbled

963
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: into the end zone and then down it, you get

964
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: at the twenty instead of the thirty. Yes, he also

965
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: fumbled another one where he got tackled at a ten right,

966
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: Like they didn't have a clean, clean special teams.

967
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 3: Now and especially after talking to Missy and the wind

968
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: and all that. I mean it was a tough kicking game,

969
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: oh no doubt. I mean there's no quite a massive challenge.

970
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 3: And I couldn't imagine trying to feel a kick or

971
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: punt with the snowfall and as heavy as it was too,

972
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 3: or even catch some of these passes, you know, through

973
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: the snow.

974
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: But it was like a Steeler's bad punt came at

975
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 2: an inopportune time.

976
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: It was probably your own end. Again, if it was

977
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: the first punt of the game, maybe it wouldn't be

978
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: a punty from the fifty.

979
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: Nobody's like, yeah, that was a bad punt, but absolutely,

980
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: but that one turned out to be costly, huge, huge.

981
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: I mean, probably the biggest play of the game in

982
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: my opinion. But there are a lot of them. There

983
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: were quite a few. I mean, Winston scramble into the

984
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: end zone, the throw to Judy, I mean those were

985
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 3: all margin plays and he made them. You know, yeah,

986
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 3: these are huge.

987
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But Matt, that's going to do it for our

988
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: show today and our shows for the week. Matt and

989
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: Now will be back on Monday. We don't have a

990
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 2: show on Thursday.

991
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: Next week.

992
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: It's Thanksgiving, so we do get to spend some time

993
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: with our family, not with each other and there'll be

994
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: lots of games to talk about next week because we

995
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: got Thursday games.

996
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to a game to break down though,

997
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: because they're on BUYE they're gonna bye, so we can

998
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: start another weird week. We'll talk.

999
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: Let's almost jump right into Bengals starting Monday and we'll

1000
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: have well, the Ravens game will be that night.

1001
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: So tonight I'm gonna start breaking down, start the stat

1002
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: pack and stuff because either one's playing between that. I

1003
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 3: expect you to have that thing to me Monday, but

1004
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 3: it might be like twenty pages this week just to

1005
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: make up for it. Keep you busy. I appreciate that

1006
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: because more time. I never have enough to do during

1007
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 3: your week, especially a short week. Yeah four day week.

1008
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: But anyways, for my partner Matt Williamson, we want to

1009
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: thank Missy Matthews for stopping by and after she had

1010
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: dried herself off and warmed up.

1011
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't sound like a funny door. No, imagine

1012
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: having to ride home in your wet clothes too. Like

1013
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 3: I think I told you the Thursday Night show that

1014
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 3: we recorded Wednesday, Merrill Hodge was telling us how the

1015
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 3: old stadium, oh that they wouldn't even shower. They'd old stadium.

1016
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: They take their pads shower the old stadium at Cleveland's

1017
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: old Cleveland brown Stadium. The visiting locker room, I swear

1018
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: to god, was as big as this studio.

1019
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: That's what I've heard. And I mentioned the wolf too.

1020
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we'd just all take our pads off

1021
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: and jump on the bus. I'm like, oh, that smelt.

1022
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: The press box was as big as this is. I mean,

1023
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 2: it was unbelievable. These jam forty people into that press box.

1024
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: There's now like five hundred people in the Cleveland press box.

1025
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: I don't know where all these media people come from

1026
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. Every year, every media person in eastern Ohio

1027
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: must go to the Browns games. Wow, it's always back.

1028
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: You could never find anywhere to sit, like sit and

1029
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: have dinner or anything like this.

1030
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: Nuts. I don't know, but anyways, to our bus ridevers

1031
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 3: smell the NFL players sounds can't be fun. Yeah.

1032
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: Uh for Justin Miller running the Justin Miller hotline for

1033
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: Tyler Viitt Meyer here uh also coolly and drying himself

1034
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 2: off after that game yesterday and warming up. I am Dale, Lolly,

1035
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of The

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Speaker 2: Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.