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Speaker 1: Welcome in out kick the show.

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Speaker 2: I teased yesterday we were going to have a special guest,

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Speaker 2: and he is with me here in my hometown of Nashville.

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Speaker 2: He is Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, running for the Republican nomination.

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Speaker 2: Has done a heck of a job so far as governor.

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Speaker 2: We've had him on a bunch of times over the

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Speaker 2: years on the shows. Now, and I want to start.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get into a bunch of different cool topics,

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Speaker 2: but I want to start with this. I was just

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Speaker 2: in Cooperstown, New York. My twelve year old is playing

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Speaker 2: in a tournament there over twenty fields. I know you

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Speaker 2: did little league baseball. You played in Williamsport. It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: All my eight year old wanted to do because the

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Speaker 2: twelve year old stay in bunks. All my eight year

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Speaker 2: old wanted to do was go buy baseball cards. And so,

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Speaker 2: not surprisingly, everywhere in Cooperstown sells baseball cards.

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Speaker 1: And I know you are.

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Speaker 2: A lifelong, long time baseball fan. I bet also you

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Speaker 2: loved baseball cards back in the day. So have you

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Speaker 2: gotten to share baseball cards at all with your kids?

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Speaker 2: I know the campaign did baseball cards. Have you shared

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Speaker 2: it with your kids yet are they interested? And when

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Speaker 2: you go back in time and think about when you

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Speaker 2: were a kid, what was your favorite baseball card set?

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Speaker 1: What was your favorite baseball cards? What do you remember

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 3: So I was born in nineteen seventy eight, I started collecting,

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Speaker 3: and probably eighty three eighty four, so you had like

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Speaker 3: the Don Mattingley Rokie, you know, and the tops and

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Speaker 3: Don Russ. You had the Wade Bogs eighty three cal

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Speaker 3: Ripkens I guess the year before. And then it got

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Speaker 3: into when the hobby really took off in like eighty six,

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Speaker 3: when they overproduced everything.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're buying, like you.

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Speaker 1: Could still buy those guys. I knows, it was crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you had and they had a lot

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Speaker 3: of good players in that year too, So we did

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Speaker 3: that and and and that that that kind of kind

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Speaker 3: of crashed. But then up or when Upper Deck came

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Speaker 3: in eighty nine, they had the crank Can Griffy Junior.

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Speaker 3: So that was kind of like the big deal for

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Speaker 3: that car that I have one graded ten that I

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Speaker 3: just keep for a souvenir.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not like, you know, trying to trade.

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Speaker 3: Cards you I have not, But he's a Florida resident.

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Speaker 2: So that card that you're talking about. Anybody who has

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Speaker 2: ever collect did baseball cards nineteen eighty nine Upper Deck,

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Speaker 2: first ever set they made for people who don't know

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Speaker 2: number one card, number one Junior. Do you remember opening

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Speaker 2: up the packs and how exciting that.

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Speaker 3: Because they were so much nicer than the tops at

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Speaker 3: the time because they were glossy or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you it was hard to pull a

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Speaker 4: griffy man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I remember doing packs it up and

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Speaker 3: they were much more expensive than tops, tire ten to

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Speaker 3: mean that was kind of the big, the big problem

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Speaker 3: with you know, I look back at at my childhood

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Speaker 3: and I just say, you know, why did you not

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Speaker 3: buy eighty six fleeer basketball and just squirrel.

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Speaker 4: Some of that away? I mean imagine like if you

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Speaker 4: just would have done you know.

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Speaker 2: Four five boy ten, the Jordan rookie card for people

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Speaker 2: out there in the eighty six fleer and there are

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Speaker 2: tons of great rookie cards because they had a couple

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Speaker 1: Did you have any of those at all? Because I

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Speaker 1: didn't never can't back.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember even seeing them, and that may have

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Speaker 3: been a little bit before I liked basketball. I kind

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Speaker 3: of got into basketball once Jordan started winning the slam

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Speaker 3: dunk contests and stuff.

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Speaker 4: But you know, it's a type of thing.

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Speaker 3: If you just have an unopened box of eighty six Flayer,

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Speaker 3: it's over one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: I think it goes for so, I mean it's like believable.

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Speaker 3: And that's actually one of those because I've seen people

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Speaker 3: but I mean, you know, you had all these other

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Speaker 2: You said, you still have the PSA eighty nine, uh

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Speaker 2: number one card, the King Grify Junior. Are there any

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Speaker 2: cards that you don't own now that just based on

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I at one point I think I

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Speaker 3: think I traded it away. I had a Nolan Ryan

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Speaker 3: rookie in nineteen sixty eight Tops, and it just you know,

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Speaker 3: just because he's just the man and that that was

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Speaker 3: pretty cool to have. I don't think I I mean,

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Speaker 3: I liked it as a kid, but like now looking back,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, you should have just kept that like that.

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Speaker 4: That's a that's a good one. And then you know,

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Speaker 4: we did.

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Speaker 3: I actually did a lot of stuff with with with Tiger,

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Speaker 3: So I got a lot of Tiger rookie cards. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, and those of those of held value pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Over your wood you're talking, oh yea yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when the golf came out. I should have gotten

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Speaker 3: more into some football back in the day. I didn't

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Speaker 3: really do that. It was kind of baseball. We started

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Speaker 3: I don't think any of that's worth very much, but uh,

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Speaker 3: but I kind of wish I would have done some football.

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Speaker 3: I have done just since I was a kid, just

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Speaker 3: for kicks, like we've done I think it's like eighty

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Speaker 3: one tops football with Montana's rookie So I've actually gotten

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Speaker 3: Montana rookie cards, like as an adult. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: this is probably like fifteen years ago. You're like one

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Speaker 3: of the it's just that like a sports show or

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Speaker 3: so I'd go, and I don't know how much it costs,

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Speaker 3: but you get it, and like I mean I got

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Speaker 3: it's a neat thing.

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Speaker 2: We did because my boys are getting old enough now

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Speaker 2: they're fifteen, twelve, and eight. We bought the eighty seven

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Speaker 2: set that you're talking about, the top set.

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Speaker 4: With the wood the wooden cards.

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Speaker 2: Ef they're massively overproduced, but we opened them with my boys.

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Speaker 2: Have you gotten old cards and set around? That's actually

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Speaker 2: really fun because it's almost like you're going back in

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Speaker 1: And like, for instance, we pulled the Bo Jackson future

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Speaker 4: That's right, that was a good one.

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Speaker 2: So I was still excited as a forty plus year

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Speaker 2: I was eight or nine years old, and my kids

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Speaker 2: thought it was super cool. They have Barry bonds, like,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of good cards. Even though that set

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Speaker 2: was mad, that was a lot of great plays.

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Speaker 3: So my son, he's five, but for Christmas, he was four,

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Speaker 3: so you know, I got him a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I did get him some cards. He kind of liked it,

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Speaker 3: but didn't get in. So I think he probably needs

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Speaker 3: another year, right, But I mean he got into I

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Speaker 3: mean he was so into football season and all that

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Speaker 3: we went. I took him to the Jags Chargers playoff

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Speaker 3: thinking to myself, I'm like, look, I'm a Bucks fan.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in the Tampa area Brady. But Brady's

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Speaker 3: gonna retire, the Bucks aren't going to be as good.

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Speaker 3: Jags have a young quarterback. So if my son's getting

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Speaker 3: follow the Jags. So we did it and that was

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Speaker 3: So then I'm like, all right, well they're playing the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: He's like, can we I was like, it's not in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: taking my six and five.

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Speaker 1: I saw you guys walking around, So.

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Speaker 3: We took him the Arrowhead and so that was the

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, it's a loudest as heck.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a great stadium, and you know it

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Speaker 3: was you know, the Jags played him pretty good because

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm carrying my four year old son. He's

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Speaker 3: so into football, watch the Super Bowl everything. Then that

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Speaker 3: he's the youngest kid in the coach pitch, so he's

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Speaker 3: they're not like underhand, the coach will just kind of

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Speaker 4: So it was good.

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Speaker 3: So I think I think maybe this Christmas he probably

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Speaker 2: The coach pitch there's so much stress on the dad.

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Speaker 2: I know, you know, because you got to throw a

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Speaker 2: good pitch and you only get I've coached you only

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Speaker 2: get six pitches. So you got four or five and

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Speaker 2: they're not very good or they haven't swung yet. You

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Speaker 2: I've been in games where they've had to pull the

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Speaker 1: It to your head.

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Speaker 3: It's just like, it's just like the catcher on Major League.

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Speaker 3: You can throw the ball the pitcher when you have

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Speaker 3: in baseball, you have the mental blocks. But I was

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Speaker 3: doing underhand with him and hitting, and then this league

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Speaker 3: was that, and he likes the overhead better, so I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't do overhand. I don't do underhand anymore.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Baseball Hall of Fame, I'm curious what

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Speaker 2: you think because you played baseball at Yale.

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Speaker 1: Sho heo Tani.

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Speaker 2: Is he the most underrated, underdiscussed baseball player of a

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Speaker 2: modern era? Because I look at what he's doing and

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Speaker 2: the numbers are off the charts. He's basically the reason

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Speaker 2: why I was thinking about it so much is I

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Speaker 2: took my kids and we're standing in front of the

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Speaker 2: old Babe Ruth in jerseys and everything else.

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Speaker 1: He's basically Babe Ruth.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like we're under rating and underdiscussing how

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Speaker 2: incredible he is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, whenever I'm asked about who the goat in

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Speaker 3: Ted Williams the best hitter all this, and I say, look,

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Speaker 3: Ruth was the greatest home run hitter of his era,

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Speaker 4: Like that's true, and that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like, as you're running for president that

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Speaker 2: Should Kevin McCarthy, in your mind, in the House Republicans

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Speaker 2: open an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden? Is that justified?

439
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Speaker 2: Based on the allegations that are out there, there's.

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Speaker 3: Way more basis to do Biden than they had to

441
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Speaker 3: do Trump. I mean the Trump was very flimsy. Yeah,

442
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,680
Speaker 3: they went ahead, guns blazing Biden. You're talking about really

443
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Speaker 3: significant corruption at stake with him and his family. And

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Speaker 3: it also raises the issue apart from that, because I

445
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Speaker 3: do think one of the issues is people see Kamal

446
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Speaker 3: awaiting in the wings and I don't know the Senate

447
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Speaker 3: would convict him, but they like, are we really trying.

448
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Speaker 4: To pack through the path.

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Speaker 3: So that helps Biden because she's good impeachment insurance for him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he actually had a really good VP. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there would be maybe yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, So so there's that. But what this

453
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Speaker 3: shows with all the whistleblower is, you know, this weaponization

454
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Speaker 3: of these agencies. You know, on the one hand, it's like, Okay,

455
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Speaker 3: there's parents going to a school board meeting in Virginia,

456
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Speaker 3: let's stick the FBI, and that's clearly an abuse weaponization.

457
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Speaker 3: But the flip side of that is when you're connected

458
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Speaker 3: to the ruling club, the DC ruling class, you know,

459
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Speaker 3: you get away scott free with stuff so many things

460
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Speaker 3: should have launched a really serious inquiry, and it's like, Okay,

461
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Speaker 3: you know you're going to go guns blazing on some

462
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Speaker 3: of these offenses against people you don't like, like a

463
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Speaker 3: massive investigation in this. Did you even send a subpoena out?

464
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Speaker 3: Did you ever even go to a grand jury? I

465
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Speaker 3: mean it's kind of like with Hillary. You know, one

466
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Speaker 3: of the things that bothered me with Hillary was not

467
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Speaker 3: just the decision, which I disagree with, not not to go.

468
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Speaker 3: Comey said, no reasonable prosecutor that's not true. They never

469
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Speaker 3: in paneled a grand jury, they never did a search warrant.

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Speaker 3: They let Hillary's staffers look at the emails, and so,

471
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Speaker 3: you know, the weaponization is, you know, if they don't

472
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Speaker 3: like you, they'll get you for jaywalking. But the flip

473
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Speaker 3: side is, you know, if you're on the team, you

474
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Speaker 3: get out of jail free.

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Speaker 1: So that builds on.

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Speaker 2: I wrote about this because I'm fat you and I

477
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Speaker 2: are basically the same age.

478
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Speaker 1: Washington Post, New York Times.

479
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Speaker 2: Whatever you think of Bill Clinton, they went after him,

480
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Speaker 2: guns blazing over Monica Lewinsky. Certainly, Watergate was before you

481
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Speaker 2: and I were born, But they went after Nixon, and

482
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Speaker 2: you lived through what they went after with Trump. Why

483
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Speaker 2: do you think so many people Washington Post, New York Times,

484
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Speaker 2: the allegations I just ran through, they're far more significant

485
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Speaker 2: than the allegations I think against Trump or against Clinton,

486
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Speaker 2: even back to Nixon. Why do you think they're giving

487
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden such.

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Speaker 1: A fair pass?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what happened was, you know, under with Clinton,

490
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Speaker 3: the press was liberal, but they they did want stories

491
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Speaker 3: and they wanted facts. Now we're in an air of

492
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Speaker 3: narrative journalism, so it's all about what narrative they can spend.

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Speaker 3: And so the Russia collusion, you know, while those allegations

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Speaker 3: quote unquote, yeah, if someone was colluding with a foreign country,

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Speaker 3: to that'ld.

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Speaker 4: Beignificant, but there was never a basis for it.

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Speaker 3: So and they knew there was never a basis for it,

498
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Speaker 3: and they would launder anonymous sources to try to keep

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Speaker 3: the feeding frenzy going. And it was like and the

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Speaker 3: whole idea was to basically mobilize the intelligence and law

501
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Speaker 3: enforcement federal communities against the sitting president or the aspiring

502
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Speaker 3: president than the sitting president. And so it's just a

503
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Speaker 3: massive abuse of power. So I think that their behavior

504
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Speaker 3: in that really I think showed who these people are now,

505
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Speaker 3: because not only were they furthering a false narrative, they

506
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Speaker 3: turned a blind eye to all the abuse that was

507
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Speaker 3: going on and they never cared about that. So what

508
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Speaker 3: they're doing with Biden is just a continuation they want

509
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Speaker 3: their narratives. This does not fit their narrative because they

510
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Speaker 3: want to focus on Republicans and all this other stuff.

511
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Speaker 3: So I think it actually flows from how they behaved

512
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Speaker 3: in Russia collusion. Because if Russia collusion, if the shoe

513
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Speaker 3: were on the other foot, they would have never given

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Speaker 3: that story a time of day.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned media narratives. You're involved in a big media narrative.

516
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Speaker 2: It's who's going to be the next president of the

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Speaker 2: United States. How do you think the media is treating

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Speaker 2: the Ron DeSantis campaign?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, and I'm not complaining about this. I mean,

521
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Speaker 3: I think it's actually somewhat of a good thing. You know,

522
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Speaker 3: they do not want me to be the nominee. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's very clear.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think they don't want you to be

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Speaker 1: the nominate?

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Speaker 3: They know I'd beat Biden, but I think even more

527
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Speaker 3: importantly than that, they've seen what I've done in Florida

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Speaker 3: to transform the state, and they're like, this guy would

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Speaker 3: actually get this stuff done, and they don't want to

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Speaker 3: see that. We don't want to see things like the

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Speaker 3: administrative state unraveled. They don't want to see conservative policy

532
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Speaker 3: implemented in any way. They don't want to see, you know,

533
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Speaker 3: me fix the military, all these things that are really

534
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Speaker 3: important to border. They don't want any of that. So

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Speaker 3: they know that, and I think that that's there. So

536
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Speaker 3: so their narrative is to try to ding me, and

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Speaker 3: I think that's been the case, they've they've tried to

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Speaker 3: take me out for years, starting with COVID. I mean

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Speaker 3: it that was relentless, and you know, we just stood

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Speaker 3: strong on that and basically you know, wrote it out.

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Speaker 3: But then really as soon as I won reelection so big,

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Speaker 3: they're like, oh my gosh, this guy, we got to

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Speaker 3: deal with him. I mean it's been you know, constantly

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Speaker 3: negative since then, for sure, even leading up to this,

545
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Speaker 3: and now it's you know, whatever you do, it's like, oh,

546
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Speaker 3: you know this or that. So it's a sign of

547
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Speaker 3: strength because if they didn't see me as somebody who

548
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Speaker 3: was a threat, they would ignore me, they would not

549
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Speaker 3: be so fixated. And I've been attacked by corporate press

550
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Speaker 3: this year more than Biden has or more than Trump

551
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Speaker 3: has in terms of their narratives. I mean, I've been

552
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Speaker 3: the number one target on that, and I think you know,

553
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Speaker 3: sometimes you know, there's a great static and so you

554
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Speaker 3: don't want that in a campaign. On the one hand.

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Speaker 3: On the other end, our voters do know, you know,

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Speaker 3: who are their enemies. Yeah, one of their enemies is

557
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Speaker 3: the corporate press. And if I am the one that.

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Speaker 4: The corporate press fears, that will help me in the

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Speaker 4: eyes of these voters.

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Speaker 2: Another guy who's gotten attacked a lot. You mentioned COVID.

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior. You guys would disagree on a lot across

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Speaker 2: the policy perspectives. I think you would agree on a

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Speaker 2: lot associated with COVID. You got ripped front page article

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Speaker 2: in the Sunday New York Times about COVID my argument,

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Speaker 2: my mind.

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Speaker 4: Which was just bizarre.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like literally, they admit in the article Florida

568
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Speaker 3: had lower age adjusted mortality than the national average they omitted,

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Speaker 3: which they should have put. We had the lowest excess

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Speaker 3: mortality in the Sun Belt, including less excess mortality than California.

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Speaker 3: So that's just on the health stuff. And then what

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Speaker 3: about economy, education, quality of life. Clearly they don't even

573
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Speaker 3: want to discuss those because we were totally off the

574
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Speaker 3: charts on all of that. And they tried to hit

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Speaker 3: me on saying I wasn't forcing the vax on young people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was not doing that because it wasn't the

577
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Speaker 4: right thing to do.

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Speaker 1: They didn't need it.

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Speaker 3: They didn't need it, and in some of them, we

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Speaker 3: now see what the young men myocarditis and all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: So what they are attacking me for actually would have

582
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Speaker 3: been bad health policy, and it's an inappropriate role of

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Speaker 3: government to try to push this on people. So we

584
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Speaker 3: were right on that, And especially when you had the

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Speaker 3: vaxes rolled out in Florida, was all these voluntary A

586
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Speaker 3: lot of people thought it was working for for the

587
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Speaker 3: first four or five months, right, And I thought it

588
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Speaker 3: was because COVID did go down in like May and

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Speaker 3: June of twenty twenty one. Then you have this massive

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Speaker 3: wave across the South, the delta. Those vaxes did not

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Speaker 3: stop that wave, and there were enough people that.

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Speaker 4: Had taken it.

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Speaker 3: So at that point you got to look at that

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Speaker 3: and say, Okay, how are you going to do? So

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Speaker 3: we focused on treatment in Florida. I was rolling out

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Speaker 3: these monoclonal antibody clinics whatever given people the ability to

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Speaker 3: get treatment. That was a departure from the narrative as well,

598
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Speaker 3: and I got attacked for doing that at the time.

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Speaker 3: So their narratives on COVID they were so wrong on

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Speaker 3: almost every issue. And the thing is is like, it's fine,

601
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Speaker 3: you're wrong, but you go to some of these deep

602
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Speaker 3: blue cities you will still see people walking outside with

603
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Speaker 3: masks on and Phil, look, it's a free country.

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Speaker 4: If that's what you like.

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Speaker 3: But I can't help but think these people have had

606
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Speaker 3: this put into their head. Then unless they're wearing a

607
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Speaker 3: mask outside, that somehow they're going to get COVID and die.

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Speaker 2: And that's not true. I was just on a college campus.

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Speaker 2: My oldest son is at the University of Michigan doing

610
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Speaker 2: a summer camp. I couldn't believe how many young people,

611
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Speaker 2: a teenagers and twenty somethings were still wearing masks. When

612
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Speaker 2: you see somebody who's a teenager or twenty something wearing

613
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Speaker 2: a mask, what do you think?

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I just shake my head. But there's

615
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Speaker 4: a reason they're doing it.

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Speaker 3: Somebody has put that into their head that that's something

617
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Speaker 3: that is going to be beneficial to them, and it's not.

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Speaker 3: When COVID hit Florida, you know, we had you know,

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Speaker 3: the kids came back to school or whenever for the

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Speaker 3: university's July August of twenty twenty, and I put out

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Speaker 3: the edict, don't touch their social lives, don't social distance

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Speaker 3: these kids.

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Speaker 4: Let them be kids.

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Speaker 3: Oh, some of them are gonna get COVID. Yet you

625
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Speaker 3: know what they are going to get COVID. You're going

626
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Speaker 3: to see it. You're gonna see it, Spike, You're gonna

627
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Speaker 3: see it go down. There's gonna be immunity, and none

628
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Speaker 3: of them are gonna end up in the hospital. And

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what ended up happening. But in the places

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Speaker 3: where they tried to circumscribe people's freedoms, it was bad

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Speaker 3: for kids' mental health, for their academic achievement, for their

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Speaker 3: social development. And I developed the following in Florida a

633
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Speaker 3: lot of the college kids because they're like, you saved

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Speaker 3: our You saved our experience.

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Speaker 4: And it's true, well not.

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Speaker 1: Only that, also high school.

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Speaker 2: You and I yet, when I was doing now kick

638
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Speaker 2: the Coverage show, you said, not only are we going

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Speaker 2: to open up schools. I remember a coming when you

640
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Speaker 2: came on the show. You said, kids are gonna be

641
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Speaker 2: able to play sports. And I think this is so

642
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: important because you know you went to school. You know

643
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Speaker 2: how many boys in particular stay in school so they

644
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Speaker 2: can go play on spassing Exactly. They don't have that coach,

645
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Speaker 2: they don't have that figure, they don't have that structure.

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Speaker 1: They fall apart.

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Speaker 2: You've seen that happen now all over the country because

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Speaker 2: the New York Times, while they're also ripping you for

649
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Speaker 2: COVID also will have a front page store. Sorry, hey,

650
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Speaker 2: learning loss is not gotten recovered from all the schools

651
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Speaker 2: that were shut down for so long.

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Speaker 1: And so what I think is an interesting part.

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Speaker 2: About this is they rip you, but you actually read

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Speaker 2: the studies yourself exactly. You actually did the research, and

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00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: so many other politicians just listen to the experts, and

656
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Speaker 2: I want to give you a thesis here and see

657
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Speaker 2: whether you buy it. What I saw happen that I

658
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: found so infuriating was you would have somebody who's a

659
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Speaker 2: CDC official, let's say the doctor Fauci's of the world,

660
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: the Rashoe Wolinsky's. They would come out and give you

661
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: a guidance, and then a politician would say, well, I'm

662
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Speaker 2: going to follow the guidance of the experts.

663
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Speaker 1: And then when the experts like.

664
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Speaker 2: Fauci get called on it, they say, well, we never

665
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 2: called for schools to shut down. So you have a

666
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: circle where no one accepts responsibility for the decision. My

667
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: thing is, you're elected as the governor. You're the ultimate

668
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: decider in the state of Florida. Right, That's how the

669
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: constitution works. But so many politicians out there pointed to

670
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Speaker 2: the so called experts who got everything wrong. The experts said,

671
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: we didn't do it. The politicians did. And it's like

672
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: there's never been consequences or reckoning for all those people

673
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 2: who got all those things wrong.

674
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Speaker 4: Well that's the thing. I mean.

675
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm in a situation where you elect me

676
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: to be the executive. You elect others and other parts

677
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: to be the executive. Nobody elected Fauci, Nobody elected these

678
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: health bureaucrats, and so it's fine to confer and listen

679
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: to what they're saying, but you ultimately have to make

680
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Speaker 3: the decision. And I started when I was doing this

681
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 3: because like literally three four weeks into COVID, I'm like,

682
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: kids need to be in school.

683
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Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on here.

684
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 3: In Fauci publicly reprimand you know, he attacked me and saying, oh,

685
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: kids are going to get infected and.

686
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: They're going to die.

687
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I'm just like, well, wait a minute,

688
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Sweden, I'm looking at all this stuff.

689
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: We're making a big mistake here. And obviously we pivoted

690
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: very quickly, but you know, so he's attacking and all

691
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: this stuff. But I started looking back Dwight Eisenhower's farewell address.

692
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Speaker 3: A lot of people remember it military industrial complex weren't,

693
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: and that's a great warning. But if you read that,

694
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: he talked about kind of in the post World War

695
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: two era, you started to have this mingling of federal

696
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: money and scientific research, and he said there's a danger

697
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Speaker 3: given that power, that public policy could be captive to

698
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: what he called a scientific technological elite. And he warned

699
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Speaker 3: against that because he said, the job of a statesman

700
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: is not to subcontract out to those people. Job of

701
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: a statesman is to like listen, but listen to all

702
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: different areas and harmonize all that for the greater good.

703
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: So someone like Fauci, he did not care about your freedom,

704
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: That was not anything he cared about. He didn't care

705
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: about the viability of your small business. He didn't care

706
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: about your kids' education, the jobs, none of that. All

707
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: he was myopically focused on was this one virus. Which

708
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: even if that was the only concern, he still failed

709
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: with his prescription for that. But I'm sitting there saying, Okay,

710
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: wait a minute. These people have a right to work,

711
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: they have a right to do all that. So yeah,

712
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: when we when we really pushed against him in the

713
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: early part of COVID. I mean, I had the whole

714
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: world come down on me, the corporate press, the left,

715
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: the Democrats, a lot of Republicans even at the time

716
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: were saying, you know, we were nuts, but I'll tell you.

717
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: And I was getting hammered and I wasn't doing well,

718
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: and people said, oh, he's never going to do politics anymore.

719
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: He's done right. And then what happened. You know, a

720
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: few months later, Florida was the place to be. It's like, Okay,

721
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: your life's not good. Wherever go to Florida. I was

722
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: the first place people thought, and we've never done better

723
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: as a state as a result of that. But that

724
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: would never have happened if I just said and you know,

725
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: it's the politically easy thing to do, because you can

726
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: say a business owner comes up to you saying like, hey,

727
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: and I want to open my restaurant. Well, they're telling

728
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: me I can't trust me. I want you to do

729
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: it right, but they can't. So it was an easy

730
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: way for them to pass the buck. And that's just

731
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Speaker 3: not the way leadership is.

732
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Speaker 2: What do you think would have happen if Andrew Gillham

733
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Speaker 2: had won in twenty eighteen.

734
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Speaker 3: Florida would be like a New York or California, Illinois.

735
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Speaker 3: There's no question it would have been. It would have

736
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Speaker 3: been a California, Illinois New York style lockdown. The kids

737
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Speaker 3: would have been out of school for the whole year

738
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Speaker 3: because I know that because the teachers' union sued me

739
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: because they wanted the school's clothes and.

740
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Speaker 2: We'd beat And now Randy Winingarten is claiming that she

741
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: always wanted to.

742
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the biggest lies.

743
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Speaker 3: They literally had a protest and I think she was there.

744
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: But there's a bunch of union people in Florida where

745
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: they were haranguing me, saying how dangerous it was, and

746
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: the union would bring coffins and put coffins in front

747
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: of the Florida Department of Education.

748
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Speaker 2: I was on the beach in May of twenty twenty,

749
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: so when everything's shut down, I said, screw it. I've

750
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: got a place on thirty A, which, by the way,

751
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful places in the United States,

752
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: by the way, maybe the best beaches, but we're full.

753
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Speaker 1: Don't come down there.

754
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: And I took my kids down there, and one of

755
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: the guys who I think ran for Secretary of State

756
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Speaker 2: in Florida as a Democrat, was walking around dressed as

757
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: a grim reap.

758
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Speaker 1: That's right on the beach, literally.

759
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: While I was there with my kids on thirty A,

760
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: you know, hanging out and enjoying the sun. But to

761
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: your point, they now all claim that they never said

762
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: what they did. And here's what's frustrating to me, and

763
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: I bet it's super frustrating to you. You at least

764
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: won by nineteen points, so that's a validation of some

765
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: point of your leadership.

766
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: Not one Kretchen Whitmer got reelected. Gavin Newsom got reelected.

767
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: The only reason.

768
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: Andrew Andrew Cuomo didn't get reelected because of a sex

769
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: harassment scandal. It wasn't because of his failures with COVID.

770
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: Not one incumbent governor lost in other than Nevada. Not

771
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: one person actually bore the consequences of their poor decisions.

772
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: If you got.

773
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: Everything wrong on COVID and then your voter still voted

774
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: for you, what does that tell us?

775
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: Well, look, I think some of that as the Republican

776
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: Party dropped the ball in some of those races.

777
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just the reality.

778
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: There's not strong leadership and it's just you got it

779
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: to beat an incumbent governor. It requires funding, it requires

780
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff, and I don't know that they

781
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: necessarily got that done, but I think part of it

782
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: is in those states, the media gas lit.

783
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: The media would portray this as necessary.

784
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: So I think there was a resistance for some of

785
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: these voters to admit that all this was for not.

786
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: You know, wearing a mask for a year and a

787
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: half was all for not. Their kids being at a

788
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: school was all for not. I think that this human

789
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: but as a matter of human nature, they wanted to

790
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: believe that that made a difference. And I think that

791
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: was more of their inclination rather than and some would

792
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: say fight, you know, yeah, this was bad, But I

793
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: do think there was some who were kind of following

794
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: the guidance doing that, and I think they wanted to

795
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: believe that that it wasn't all for not. And so

796
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: by sticking with those governors, you know, that may be

797
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: a way to acknowledge that they may have been right

798
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: to follow it.

799
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Speaker 2: Rand Paul has referred doctor Fauci for prosecution because he

800
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: thinks he lied to Congress in fatis he did.

801
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 4: I mean, are you kidding?

802
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: Me with the gain of function research, with all these

803
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: different things, how they sent that money to WU hand

804
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: what they did to try to cover up the lab leak,

805
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: because it was like, oh, it came from the lab.

806
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: And then immediately Fauci's trying to hit it down behind

807
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: the scenes, trying to say it was natural because they

808
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: knew that they got caught red handed on this and

809
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: it was reckless behavior, and he's made statements and so,

810
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: and then of course it's like, where's the accountability for

811
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: the damage you did to this country? And the fact

812
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: of the matter is Fauci was elevated to kind of

813
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: be the de facto ruler, where his pronouncement were viewed

814
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 3: as like the gold standard, and so like, yeah, I

815
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 3: was departing, but I mean I got hammered for doing that.

816
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: A lot of elected officials didn't want to have to

817
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: face that flack. And so he could go and say

818
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: schools shouldn't be open, and that was license for all

819
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: these school districts had just close in Florida. What I did,

820
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: I used emergency powers. You know, the governors were using

821
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: emergency powers to lock people down. I was using it

822
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: to pry open the schools. And they That's one of

823
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: the reasons they sued me. They said, you don't have

824
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: the authority to do this, and honestly it was contested.

825
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: But I'm not just gonna sit there and let these

826
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: kids toil. So I'm like, I have authority. Here's what

827
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. You do And I knew once the

828
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 3: kids got back in the parents would never let it

829
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 3: close again.

830
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: And so that that's what we did.

831
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Speaker 2: If you were president, do you think Fauci should be prosecuted, Yes.

832
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: I mean he's he is guilty of lying before Congress.

833
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: I mean, give me a break now here. This raises

834
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: an issue that you because when I look at kind

835
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: of you know, how do you get good policy to

836
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: stick whatever? What are kind of the pressure points. One

837
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: of the problems we have in d C is if

838
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: you're part of the swamp like they tried to do

839
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: that guy. Durham tried to do that guy and prosecute him.

840
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: Got quitted because he has to he has to be

841
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. With an awful jury d C. Right,

842
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: So the DC that area jury pool is people like

843
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: Fauci would be protected in that. That'd be a huge,

844
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: huge turtle. I'm not saying it's not justified to go ahead.

845
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: But that'd be a huge turtle flip side. It's like,

846
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: you know, you're a Republican, you're jaywalking. Oh man, they're

847
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna get you. They're gonna go after you.

848
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 3: So so that that and what I think, what I've

849
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: said that we should do is a defendant American defendant

850
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: in d C should have the right to remove the

851
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: case to their home district. So like if they tried

852
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: to ding you, you can move it to Nashville and

853
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: I get what is this middle district of Tennessee or

854
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: in order to or something, So you could do that

855
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: and then do it.

856
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: And I just think, by the way, I think they're

857
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: gonna ding me for something.

858
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: There you go, you never you never know, I know,

859
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: you know that's it. Well, you know, if I get elected,

860
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 3: we'll land weaponization.

861
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about that. But yeah, that's

862
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 4: the direction they're going.

863
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: So you have so you have an imbalance and accountability

864
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: where if you want to hold the swamp accountable, man,

865
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: they have an ability to nullify that accountability.

866
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: Very very bad.

867
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: So that brings in We've talked about this, you've come

868
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: on Clay and Buck as well. So you have a

869
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: strong knowledge of the Constitution, right you graduate from Harvard

870
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: Law School. Some people in politics really don't have that

871
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: good of a knowledge. So Trump now is being prosecuted

872
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: in New York City, He's going to have a super

873
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: left wing jury there. There's no doubt he may well

874
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: be prosecuted in Atlanta, going to be a left wing

875
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: jury in Fulton County in Atlanta. He is going to

876
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: be prosecuted in South Florida. And now it seems, and

877
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: you probably know the data on this better than most,

878
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: that that actually.

879
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: Might be a fair jury pool.

880
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: I think it will be.

881
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 3: I think if it's in Fort Pierce Saint Lucie County,

882
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: I think I want it by twenty points, so you

883
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: will absolutely be able to have a fair representation.

884
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's at least somewhat fair. DC would not

885
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: be if Jack Smith's the GC is.

886
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: The most unfair jury pool in America, because Fulton County

887
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: seventy thirty yep, Manhattan's eighty twenty or eighty five fifteen,

888
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: DC's like ninety eight to two. I mean, and especially

889
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 3: when you're talking about anything related with the swamp, that

890
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: is not fair. So that's why I think you remove

891
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: that to home district, I think is fair. What we're

892
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: going to do with DOJ when I go into end weaposition.

893
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things you do, but one of

894
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 3: the things we're going to do is also say, Okay,

895
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: what's our authority visa VI some of these local areas.

896
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 3: I think we're going to do civil rights against Soros

897
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: prosecutors because if they're weaponizing their office to let criminals

898
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: go and to go after political enemies, that's a civil

899
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: rights violation. You have a right in the Constitution to

900
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: live under republican form of government. That's not a republican

901
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: form of government. So we're going to lean in on

902
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: those folks because I think those local prosecutors are a huge,

903
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: huge problem. You know, the DOJ is a massive problem.

904
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: But if you go in there and spit nails and

905
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: you're willing to upset the apple cart, you can change

906
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: the direction of that. You know, I believe you can

907
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: do it if you're a determined president. But these local folks,

908
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: they get Soros cash, they get elected, and then they

909
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: just run wild and that's not.

910
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 4: The rule of law.

911
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: What do you think happened to Merrick Garland.

912
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting because he wasn't.

913
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: For people out there who don't know, he wasn't a

914
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: crazy zealog Well that's the thing.

915
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 4: I mean.

916
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: So I look back and think he was always portrayed

917
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: as a more moderate Is that wrong?

918
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: It probably was. I mean I think that.

919
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: If his rulings weren't like insane.

920
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 4: But he was.

921
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: But he was.

922
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: He was an inferior court judge. He wasn't at the

923
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: court of last resort. And what happens with these guys

924
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: once they get on the Supreme Court on the left,

925
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: they cow tell to the intelligentsia, to the corporate press,

926
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: to to the law professors, and you look at how

927
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: so you have Sodomayor and Jackson. They are like like

928
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: they could be on MSNBC with their nonsense. I mean,

929
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: it is really scary. Yeah, you know, Kagan is very liberal,

930
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: but she I think at least tries to be, you know,

931
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: you know, at least grounded her version of the law.

932
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: The other two it's all political screeds, and so I

933
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: think Garland probably would have been voting with them one

934
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: hundred percent of the time. That being said, I do

935
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: think that he's become more partisan because of he didn't

936
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: get the Supreme Court's position.

937
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: I do think that that's probably true.

938
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: How do you think so he is You know that

939
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: you went to law school. I went to law school.

940
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: There are certain people who they love the law, right.

941
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: I used to talk about this is their highest aspiration.

942
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 2: There's a lot of other lawyers. They go to law school,

943
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: like I would put myself in this category. I love

944
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: the education. I knew that I didn't want to practice

945
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: law for the rest of my life. Merrick Garland is

946
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: a love the law person, right like he loves studying

947
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: the law and everything else. I look at him and

948
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: I wonder how does he sleep at night? Because what

949
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: he's done. They talk about how Trump or you or

950
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: somebody else is going to be an authoritarian dictator, right

951
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: if you end up in power. Merrick Garland is trying

952
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: to put the chief political adversary right now of his opponent,

953
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: Joe Biden, Donald Trump in prison for the rest of

954
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 2: his life.

955
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like.

956
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: That, and what to see think?

957
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: What do you think I can't imagine being him like

958
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: and making that choice because I'm afraid and I'm curious

959
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: what you think is with this weaponization nobody, you know,

960
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: de escalates if once you set the opportunity of oh,

961
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: I can put my chief political rival in prison. You're

962
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: in Florida, Like, there's so many people who fled to

963
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: Florida to try to avoid that, because it happens all

964
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: over Banana republics in Latin America.

965
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: How does he sleep at night? Like what's going on there? Well?

966
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, look with this DC case,

967
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: I immediate's report. Who knows whether there will be one?

968
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but if there is, I

969
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: think it's likely going to be they're going to talk

970
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: about everything that Donald Trump may have done, and they're

971
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: going to find some statute and stretch it to try

972
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: to do so. If you're going back to like a

973
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: reconstruction statute, like violation conspiracy against rights they call it,

974
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: and you're trying to apply it to that, you know,

975
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: here's the thing. No one's above the If somebody who's

976
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: been in high office robs a bank, we know that's

977
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: a crime. You rob the bank, they prove it. You know,

978
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 3: you have to pay the penalty. But when you contort

979
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 3: like Bragg did, the law to try to fit conduct

980
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: against somebody you don't like, that's kind of find me

981
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 3: the man and I'll find you the crime kind of deal.

982
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: And so so you know, if that's what's reported, I

983
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: think these are going to be charges that are not

984
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: traditional crimes. In other words, they're more obscure, and they're

985
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: trying to be shoehorned in here because you know, quite frankly,

986
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: the left is crazy about this stuff and they want

987
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: to do it, and that's what we got it. So

988
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: if you want to have a good justice system that

989
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: people have confidence in, you will have straightforward criminal offenses,

990
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: and particularly in a pretty politically charged environment, you will

991
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: not charge novel offenses given the dynamics that are at play.

992
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 3: And I think he's thrown that totally overboard, and we'll

993
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: see if he's doing it.

994
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: He could mean that if you were president and they try

995
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: to prosecute Trump, maybe before the election even happens, that

996
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: you would look at that. I think you said on

997
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: our show before you'd look at pardoning all the January sixth.

998
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: Well, my view, I mean with respect to like, you know,

999
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: do we really think it's good for the country to

1000
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: have an almost eighty year old former president in prison?

1001
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: Like?

1002
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 3: Is that is that going to be good for us

1003
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: to come together. Yeah, you know, that's the thing. It's like,

1004
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: you know, there is divisions in this society, but there

1005
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: is some opportunity I think, to come together on some things.

1006
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: But it's like when all this is going on, that

1007
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: makes it very difficult. So you know, I look back

1008
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: at like like Nixon pardoning for it. He took a

1009
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: lot of heat for it, but I think it was

1010
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 3: the right decision to just move.

1011
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: The country beyond that.

1012
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: And you know, they could have tried to got a

1013
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: pound of flesh out of Nixon and it wasn't that

1014
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: Nixon was.

1015
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 4: Above the law.

1016
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: It was just weighing, how does that, you know, provide

1017
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: fissures to society, you know for this, But it's a

1018
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 3: type of thing where in terms of ending weaponization, I think,

1019
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: you know, wielding pardon power is definitely part of it.

1020
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: Clearing out the bureaucracy, I think. I mean, I'm one

1021
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 3: of the few I think candidates had said definitively, we'll

1022
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: have a new FBI director on day one, one hundred percent.

1023
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: We'll have an attorney general with a big, big strong

1024
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: backbone who's.

1025
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 4: Going to fight all these people.

1026
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: We're going to probably parcel out parts of DOJ, so

1027
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: you know, you can send one part of it to

1028
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 3: maybe Tennessee or Arkansas or wherever. Because there's so much

1029
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: power that's been conglomerated in d C. I think a

1030
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: lot of the people probably wouldn't want to move to

1031
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: some of these places. So maybe it's more representative of

1032
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: America because we have in d C Department of Justice

1033
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 3: consolidated power, no oversight, no accountability, and ninety nine percent

1034
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: of them donate the donations.

1035
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 4: Are Democrats.

1036
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, so you may even be

1037
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: trying to use your power, but some of these people

1038
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: they just view like it's foreign of the way other

1039
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: people think, and that's very, very dangerous.

1040
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: Ford pardon Nixon because he was a statesman. Does Biden

1041
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: have any statesman like quality? No?

1042
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 3: No, No, he would not do it because his base

1043
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: would beat him alive.

1044
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: But sometimes don't you have to do what's right.

1045
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: But I think what we've seen with Biden he will

1046
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: not cross the base because he understands his hold on

1047
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: power is pretty tenuous just given his ineptity, dude, given

1048
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 3: his senility and all this stuff, and so he basically

1049
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: is just going to deliver for the base, and he

1050
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: would open himself up to potentially getting driven out of

1051
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: office on twenty fifth Amendment or something.

1052
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: So there is no way he would do that.

1053
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: And and that's why, you know, the stakes of the

1054
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: election for many respects, you know.

1055
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: Were high, but I think there's a high probability that

1056
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: would be out of the cards for him.

1057
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 2: Do you think if Hunter Biden's dad wasn't president, he'd

1058
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: be in jail?

1059
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: Yes? Well, let me say this, if he were a

1060
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: Republican and he was not connected to DC, he would, yes, Yeah,

1061
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: I think for sure. And you know that's the thing

1062
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: he the lack of zealousness with all this information. You know,

1063
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 3: it's one thing. It's like, you know, if if they

1064
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: go after you and him the same yep, uh, then

1065
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: what are you going to do?

1066
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: Right?

1067
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: But that's just not the way it is.

1068
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: I Mean, they get very very zealous when it comes

1069
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: to people they don't like.

1070
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 1: You mentioned bud Light a minute ago.

1071
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: I know that Disney has been on the battleground with you,

1072
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: and I got a quote. I don't know if officially,

1073
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: I know that the campaign put out a video, but

1074
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: Bob Iger told CNBC. The notion that Disney is in

1075
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: any way, sexualizing kid children, quite frankly, is preposterous and inaccurate.

1076
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: That's a quote from Bob Iger.

1077
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: Do you buy it well, I mean you saw they

1078
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: opposed the bill in Florida to not have sexuality and

1079
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: gender identity and grades K through three.

1080
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: And not only they oppose it.

1081
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 3: When we stared them down and I signed it, they said,

1082
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: it's going to be our mission to see that it's

1083
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 3: repealed in the legislature of the courts. So they're devoting

1084
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: corporate resources. They felt so strongly about kindergarteners being told

1085
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: that they may be born in the wrong body that

1086
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 3: they dedicated corporate resources to it. And then when that happened,

1087
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 3: those Zoom videos came out with those Disney executives saying

1088
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 3: they have an agenda to inject the sexuality in the

1089
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 3: youth programming. So that's just that is evidence that everyone's

1090
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: been able to see and look. The reality with that

1091
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: company is their own employees buying large sided with me.

1092
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: In Florida.

1093
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: Osceola County is where the majority of Disney employees live.

1094
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: I did better than any Republican has done in a generation,

1095
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: usually a blue county. I wanted by seven or eight percent.

1096
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: I did better in Orange County than Republican's done in

1097
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: a generation and all the surrounding.

1098
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 4: We did tremendous.

1099
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: Because you know, they are they are employees of Disney,

1100
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: because they believed in the original mission. Most of them

1101
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: believed in the original mission, and so it was not popular.

1102
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 3: I remember when they were when they were protests in

1103
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: US on this when the bill was coming up.

1104
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 4: There's a Disney is going to do a big protest.

1105
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: So like you know, the Burbank people were out protesting Orlando.

1106
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: There were news crews with helicopters and there was like

1107
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 3: one guy and he had a mask on and he

1108
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 3: had like a sign that says like trans lives matter

1109
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: or something like that, Like one guy, and that just

1110
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: shows you. So they were way out of step with that,

1111
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: and I think it's hurt their company in terms of

1112
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: in terms of what's happened with their share price. The

1113
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: people going to the parks their movies intentionally are trying

1114
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: to pursue an agenda, a social agenda in very different ways.

1115
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: That's not where the market is.

1116
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: The market wants you to do traditional stuff, and particularly

1117
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: for parents with children, I don't want to have to

1118
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: like watch it to to you know, we have to

1119
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: turn it off because they're trying to do a message.

1120
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: Used to be you watch the cartoons, they're cartoons, and

1121
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: that's kind of like a safe space for parents. Now

1122
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: parents feel like even some of the trusted names of

1123
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 3: the past you can't trust.

1124
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: And you grew up in Florida. I'm sure you went

1125
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: to Disney World growing up. Sometimes.

1126
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: I know you got married. I think at Disney World

1127
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: we got married.

1128
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: And the thing was was, you know, I was I

1129
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: was still in the Navy, my way, and I was

1130
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: in you know, northeast Florida, and I thought we would

1131
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: end up doing Panavidra Beach because you know whatever. And

1132
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: she came to my wife came one day, she's like,

1133
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: what do you think about Disney? Like, what do you

1134
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: mean when I think about Disney stick for the wedding.

1135
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: I was like, do they do weddings like you could

1136
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: do like Cinderell's catch. She's like, no, they have a

1137
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: child and it actually is very nice. Her parents were

1138
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: big Disney people, so they suggested it and that's what

1139
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: they wanted to do, and so we did.

1140
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: We were getting married. You probably did not have a

1141
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: lot of say in many of the da.

1142
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: What I told her is I was like, look, this

1143
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 4: is your day.

1144
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: Like I am very low maintenance, but I am drawing

1145
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: the line no Donald Duck at the wedding, like we

1146
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: cannot have these characters. And it was a traditional If

1147
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: you see our wedding pictures, it's it's a church. I

1148
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: gets no different than anything like that. So it's you know,

1149
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: we did that. And so this is two thousand and nine.

1150
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 3: And then just thinking forward, like however many years later,

1151
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: ten fifteen years later, we'd end up in this and this.

1152
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: Curve flo My point on it is there's this idea

1153
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: that you have somehow picked the fight with Disney. No.

1154
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: And I want to just emphasize this for our audience.

1155
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: You opened and fought to get Disney World open, like

1156
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: a year before Gavin Newsom was willing to open them.

1157
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 3: They made a fortune in Florida because of you. We

1158
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: did because you fought for them to be able to

1159
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 3: run that. In fact, I remember Disney they could have

1160
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: even opened earlier. I was telling them to open. In fact,

1161
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 3: I told them not to close. Because you know I

1162
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: didn't close them. They called me and said, hey, we're

1163
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: going to close a few days. I'm like, you know,

1164
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not that may be rash. I

1165
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: was like, you may want to think that stupid, that's

1166
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 3: what they want to do. And they waited law they

1167
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: were more cautious. Universal SeaWorld open like a month and

1168
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 3: a half before Disney did. But they they opened, and

1169
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: then you know, we had our first kind of summer

1170
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: COVID wave, and I remember the CEO called me.

1171
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: He's like, he's like, you know, do you want us

1172
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: to stop?

1173
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: I'm like no, I was like, we have to live

1174
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: with this, Okay, we can't just run and hide. You

1175
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: have people's jobs at stake, you know, families want to

1176
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: come with their kids and all that. And so we

1177
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: did it, and and they they did very very well.

1178
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: And I remember like throughout all that time leading up

1179
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: to the to the parents' rights and education debate, they

1180
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 3: would always say.

1181
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 4: Like, man, we wish we had you in California.

1182
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: You know that, even like their burd Bank executives, because

1183
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 3: it was like, we were so reasonable and we wanted

1184
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: them to succeed because we knew jobs were at stake

1185
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 3: and the economy and everything like that. And so yeah,

1186
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 3: I mean I think that they they had high regard

1187
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: for me. And here's the thing. We have the best

1188
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: business climate in America. Our economy is ranked number one

1189
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: by CNBC, which is not a fan of mine. But

1190
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 3: they had they had to admit that. And so them

1191
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: living under the same laws as you universal in SeaWorld

1192
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: like good, like you know you you have a great

1193
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: chance to do well. And and they're just not. They

1194
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: don't want that. They want to have their own, their

1195
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: own ability to govern themselves apart from society.

1196
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: Well, what I think is so interesting about it we

1197
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: were talking about narratives earlier, is they threw the first

1198
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: punch at you, of course, and now most in the

1199
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: media are like, why is Ron DeSantis going after Disney? Well,

1200
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 2: I mean, are you just supposed to take a punch.

1201
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 3: Well, not only that, but then this year, so we

1202
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: we had the fight in twenty twenty two. We said

1203
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: were you know, you're your self governing status and ending

1204
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna live treated You're gonna live under the same laws.

1205
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 3: You don't get special laws, special tax breaks. And that

1206
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: was just because the legislature, the support for that collapse.

1207
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: It was outmoded, It was not justifiable. On the marriage

1208
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: it was massive egregious corporate welfare. But Disney had been

1209
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 3: so powerful that no one questioned it, So so we

1210
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 3: did that. Then what happened was February of twenty twenty three,

1211
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 3: as the state is taking control because you know, are

1212
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: our board's gonna have to wind it down, the bonds

1213
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. Disney executed with itself these covenants

1214
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: saying no one can do anything, and so that was

1215
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 3: like a big middle finger to the Florida legislature. They're

1216
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: the ones that did that. And so then we said, no,

1217
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 3: we're gonna these are not valid. The board rejected it,

1218
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 3: the legislature rejected it, and so they're saying we're going

1219
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: after Disney, but they're the ones that tried to basically

1220
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 3: veto a bill passed by the Florida legislature, and then

1221
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: Disney sued us and all that stuff. All that being said,

1222
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: you know, we won the battle on parents Bill of Rights.

1223
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: Disney is not going to get their government back, their

1224
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: own government back, and so we're gonna win on that

1225
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: lawsuit and that'll probably be decided sometime this summer.

1226
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: Just a couple more for you here, we'll finish off.

1227
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 2: I hope people have enjoyed this. This has been I

1228
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: think I bet you've kind of enjoyed sometimes getting to

1229
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 2: talk in a form we're not getting cut off. If

1230
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 2: you've now fired significant number of staff members two months

1231
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: into the campaign, Iowa's December January fifteenth, how would you

1232
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: assess the status of your campaign?

1233
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: Do you expect to win Iowa on January three?

1234
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: I think Iowa's great, And I think what we realize

1235
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: on this is, you know, we had a campaign for

1236
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 3: a nationwide election, which which will happen eventually, but that's

1237
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 3: not how the primaries are. So we're shifting resources to

1238
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: the early states. We don't need to have you know,

1239
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 3: we don't need to be too top heavy in Tallahassee,

1240
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: So Iowa and Hampshire, South Carolina. You know we're going

1241
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: to be spending the vast majority of our time in

1242
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: those three states. I think everyone would acknowledge Iowa we

1243
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 3: have the best ground game by far. Right now, we're

1244
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: going to win in Iowa. I mean, like we've got

1245
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 3: to earn it. I mean, you know, if I if

1246
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 3: I thought I had it in the bag, then I wouldn't.

1247
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: We have to earn it. But I think we've got

1248
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 3: a great path there and then New Hampshire a little

1249
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: bit different than Iowa, but I think the voters in

1250
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: both of those states they want to kick the tires.

1251
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 3: They want to see you, and there'll be people that

1252
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 3: will say like, oh, you know, what do you think

1253
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 3: of the governor? Well, you know, I like him, but

1254
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 3: I've only met him one time, and so like, that's

1255
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: what you have to do.

1256
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 4: So we're going to be on the ground.

1257
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: We're going to be on the ground two days in

1258
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: Iowa this week and then four days in New Hampshire

1259
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: through the weekend and into the early part of next week.

1260
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 3: I think we're doing a town hall with newsmaxs. We're

1261
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 3: doing a bunch of different but that's really is. It's

1262
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: just it's a recognition that you want the resources applied

1263
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 3: where the delegates are allocate. At the end of the day,

1264
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: you're winning a majority of the delegates.

1265
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: That's the goal.

1266
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 3: It's not a nationwide vote, it's a state by state vote,

1267
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 3: and you need to have an organization to reflect that.

1268
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 2: Number One question I get asked on our show Clay

1269
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: and Buck walking around, people say I want Trump as president,

1270
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: I want a Scantists to be as vice president.

1271
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: Your response when you hear that is.

1272
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 4: What would you take it? If a huffer to you?

1273
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: I like the jobs that I got, Ready, you go, yeah, No, Look,

1274
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, you know

1275
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: I'm running run for president to beat Biden. You know

1276
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 3: I'm reliable, I reflect the values of our voters, and

1277
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: I will deliver on all this stuff. I've shown ability

1278
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: to do that in Florida doing number two. I mean, it

1279
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: just doesn't appeal to me, and I don't think I

1280
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: would be good at it, and I think I'm probably

1281
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: you know, more valuable doing other things. But you know,

1282
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: some people run for president because they want a cabinet

1283
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: position or VP all that, or TV contribut leadership.

1284
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 4: I'm not that.

1285
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 3: I don't want VEEP. I don't want cabinet. I don't

1286
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: want to be on, you know, a contributor. I'm running

1287
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: to win, and that's the only reason I'm running. And

1288
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: so we'll we'll either do it or not.

1289
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: I remember I asked you, I mentioned RFK Junior earlier

1290
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: in the fact that you might overlap if Trump picked R.

1291
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: FK Junior as a potential vice presidential candidate. Crazy idea.

1292
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: If you were president, would you cons if you were

1293
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: the nominee, would you consider R.

1294
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: FK. Junior as a running mace.

1295
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 3: Here here's the issue, Like, I'm aligned with him on

1296
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: fauciep and the corruption and the health bureaucracies one hundred percent.

1297
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Speaker 3: And I think he's probably done so said some other

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Speaker 3: things that I agree with too.

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Speaker 4: But the end of the.

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Speaker 3: Day, you know, he's more liberal, very you know, very

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Speaker 3: liberal on some I mean he used to say, I

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Speaker 3: don't if he still believes this that you know, if

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Speaker 3: you deny climate change, you should go to jail, things

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Speaker 3: like that. So it's like conservative voters, you know, they

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Speaker 3: would want those positions flushed out. And my and you

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Speaker 3: know he opposed the affirmative action ruling to say, you know,

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Speaker 3: you can't racially discriminate on that, he would have wanted

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Speaker 3: that to remain. So I just think at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, you know, you need somebody that's gonna

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Speaker 3: reflect the values of the broad coalition. Yes, the medical stuff,

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Speaker 3: I'm very good on that, So that does appeal to me,

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Speaker 3: But there's a whole host of other things that he'd

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Speaker 3: probably be out of step with and so on that regard.

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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, if you're president, you know, sick him

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Speaker 3: on the FDA if he'd be willing to serve or

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Speaker 3: sick him on CDC. But in terms of being veep,

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Speaker 3: if there's you know, seventy percent of the issues that

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Speaker 3: he may be averse to our base on, you know,

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Speaker 3: that just creates an issue.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna stick with the Bucks now the Brady's.

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Speaker 4: Going, I will, but my son is, uh, he's gonna

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Speaker 4: stay with the Jacks.

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Speaker 3: He'sa Jags and you know, he also is interested in

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Speaker 3: going to a Dolphins game at some point. So I

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Speaker 3: think Dolphins gonna be pretty good too. So you're gonna

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Speaker 3: have You're gonna have two teams that I think there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of excitement about.

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Speaker 4: And I'll just grin and beart.

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Speaker 3: Look, I was a Bucks fin when they had the

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Speaker 3: orange uniforms, and so I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna do great next year, but we're good in

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Speaker 4: the day.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think it's gonna be as bad as

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Speaker 3: you know, going to that old Sombrero and having those

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Speaker 3: you know, his orange uniforms and then just getting the

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Speaker 3: ass kicked by any team that rolled in there. And

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Speaker 3: that that's the eighties and early nineties until until Tony

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Speaker 3: Dungee came. It was basically really tough sled in you

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Speaker 3: know most years for the Bucks, and then Tony kind

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Speaker 3: of got him. And then Gruden came in and put

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Speaker 3: him over the top for the super Bowl, which was

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Speaker 3: that was an exciting thing. We never thought that would

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Speaker 3: happen in Tampa. I can tell you that one of the.

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Speaker 2: Big last questions for you, I think, I said last question.

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Speaker 2: One of the challenges I think that you're probably finding

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Speaker 2: when you're going out and going around.

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Speaker 1: Is people don't know you that well.

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Speaker 2: Right, They're trying you mentioned people now New Hampshire actually

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Speaker 2: want to meet you more than one time, right to

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Speaker 2: decide what do you wish voters knew about you that they.

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Speaker 3: Don't well one, I mean, just my background is you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm a blue collar kid. My parents were working class.

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Speaker 3: I worked minimum wage jobs to be able to get

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Speaker 3: get into school. Do all that put myself in a

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Speaker 3: position to succeed. I ended up did earned degrees from

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Speaker 3: Yell and Harvard Law School. But I made the decision

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Speaker 3: that in a post nine to eleven world, you gotta serve,

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Speaker 3: you gotta wear the uniform. So I volunteered, volunteered to

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Speaker 3: serve in Iraq alongside Seal Team one, and do all

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Speaker 3: these other things. And I think it's just when you're

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Speaker 3: running for president. I think people want to know. It's like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: why are you doing this? Is this about you or

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Speaker 3: is about us the people? And I think my track

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Speaker 3: record kind of where I came from, my belief in

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Speaker 3: the American dream, and my you know, uh desire to

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Speaker 3: restore it a service to the country. I think they

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Speaker 3: can look at it and say, you know what, this

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Speaker 3: guy's in it for the right reasons. He wants to

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Speaker 3: do something by running for president. He's not trying to

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Speaker 3: be somebody by running for president.

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Speaker 2: It's Florida Governor Ronda Santis. And people want to want

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Speaker 2: to know more about your campaign. Where should they go?

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Speaker 3: Just go to our website at Rondiysantis dot com Rondeysantis

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Speaker 3: dot com and you can also text freedom to five one.

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Speaker 4: Two three four five.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time, Thanks, thanks for coming to Nashville. YEP.