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Speaker 1: a regular in these parts, Luke, the man with the

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Speaker 1: damn hat, the athletics own Chuck Mindenhall. You may be

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Speaker 1: wondering where the hell is Luke Thomas. I heard something

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's Do you think it's like maybe

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Speaker 2: Is going on. The Great Luke.

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Speaker 1: He's busy to it. That's just the bottom line. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to reach out to him and find out.

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Speaker 1: But Chuck, you're becoming like part of this family.

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Speaker 2: Bro Okay.

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Speaker 1: In terms of like internet and TV show history, you're

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Speaker 1: and over place Shannon Doherty with Kelly Kapowski. Remember that

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Speaker 1: post surgery. Yeah, yeah, business was moving up after that.

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Speaker 2: Let me just let me just set the stage here.

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Speaker 2: This will be a shit show.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of talk about from Canelo to

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Speaker 1: two forty four BMF and all that. But I'm coming

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Speaker 1: which either shows you, Chuck, that I've got insane dedication

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Speaker 2: Really bad corporate travel age. So a little bit of

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Speaker 2: Spread the word. Spread it spread it wide, right, spread

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Speaker 1: do big things, Chuck. Do you know what this show does?

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Speaker 2: What? It's a refreshing take on combat sports. No bs,

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Speaker 1: and the combat took place both sides of the globe,

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Speaker 1: And to see him get to this point, same thing

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Speaker 1: It turns out we had central casting, We had the

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Speaker 1: Do you remember UFC two O two Diz McGregor two,

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Speaker 4: And here's why you ready for this, judge, get ready

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Speaker 2: We got a bang does bang?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: That let's keep that championship going. Not everybody's in this

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Speaker 4: So if the money's the same way, not I wanted

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Speaker 4: And I feel like to find those types of intellience,

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, this is a gift to the fans.

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Speaker 1: The fan interest, I believe would be insane BMF championship

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting, but in terms of what could be

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Speaker 2: You know. He lives up to the BMF man, and

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Speaker 1: Can we use that on the show? Can see it

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Speaker 1: was just so, however you want to? Jay has confirmed, Jay,

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Speaker 4: I think so. I think it is. Here's the thing

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Speaker 4: he won the fight. I don't have any reservations that

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Speaker 1: What the performance he showed against Naton Round one. I

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Speaker 4: And just the fact that it was his idea. Let's

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Speaker 4: The whole thing was this intention.

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Speaker 1: One more thing on this topic, Dana afterwards, says Jorge

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Speaker 2: This locked it up your.

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Speaker 2: Everyone on my team is full on. Jorge has done it.

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Speaker 2: And then what do they have around that? How do

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Speaker 4: In there again, guy, he'd be the only guy that

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Speaker 4: Sila all right, So we saw him coming. If anything,

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Speaker 4: So then that fight becomes this big deal. We're paying

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Speaker 1: It's in the conversation if you if you vote for it,

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Speaker 1: I don't see how you wouldn't think he's got a

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Speaker 4: He's so well rounded that I wouldn't put it past

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Speaker 4: of doing those type of things.

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Speaker 1: And let's not forget Marty the one man party beat

438
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Speaker 1: with Ley. If he beats Covington, he's in that conversation

439
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Speaker 1: as well. All right, let's shift gears and go to

440
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Speaker 1: topic number two of the week. You want to talk

441
00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,040
Speaker 1: about a competing giant fight. It brought me to Las

442
00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,840
Speaker 1: Vegas on his own. It was Canela Avarez moving up

443
00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,920
Speaker 1: two weight divisions to take a light heavyweight title from

444
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Speaker 1: Sergey Kovola via vicious eleventh round knockout, becoming the fourth

445
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Speaker 1: Mexican to win titles in four different divisions, Chuck.

446
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Speaker 4: On, this was a heck of a.

447
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Speaker 1: A heck of a historical statement. Yeah, because we know

448
00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,919
Speaker 1: Canelo is great, we know he's not perfect. Right, there

449
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,600
Speaker 1: was the the uh clumb bud all gate, there was

450
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Speaker 1: the does he get the benefit of the Dalton the

451
00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,400
Speaker 1: score cards a lot like a lot of stars, Yes,

452
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Speaker 1: but he consistently goes out of his way to fight,

453
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Speaker 1: take fights that he doesn't need to. Other people have

454
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Speaker 1: taken those fights in history to make them stars. Canelo

455
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,440
Speaker 1: is already the star, the biggest global force in the sport,

456
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Speaker 1: and he continues to do this. And here's what I'm

457
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Speaker 1: gonna say about this performance. This fight was up for

458
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Speaker 1: grabs going into the eleventh rounds. One judge had even

459
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Speaker 1: two judges had Canelo up ninety six, ninety four. So

460
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Speaker 1: what I love about the way Canelo ended this fight

461
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Speaker 1: is we can't say, oh cove Lev was thirty six,

462
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Speaker 1: Oh he's a front runner.

463
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Speaker 2: Oh he doesn't like it to the body.

464
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Speaker 1: Oh he has no chin because this wasn't crusher, Yeah, right,

465
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Speaker 1: the prime twenty twelve crusher CoV Lev. But it was

466
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Speaker 1: the best version thirty six year old circuit Covelef could

467
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Speaker 1: have put out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you. How impressed were you with this?

469
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Speaker 4: I was impressed. The fight had a very subdued feel,

470
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Speaker 4: and I know there are multiple reasons for that. It

471
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Speaker 4: felt like it was living in the state of anticipation

472
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Speaker 4: and pending from either side really, because it was almost

473
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Speaker 4: like there was a conservation of energy from Covialev where

474
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Speaker 4: you know he was using the jab, but it was

475
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Speaker 4: clear that he wanted to be able to have a

476
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Speaker 4: lot left when the late rounds got there, right, like

477
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Speaker 4: he was trying to preserve himself. But from I was

478
00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 4: waiting for Canelo at any point to just come to life.

479
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 4: I think that that's where I was where I was

480
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Speaker 4: at because a couple of times he landed in those

481
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Speaker 4: middle rounds where you're like, okay, his punches have some

482
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Speaker 4: more mustard on him than the covid Levkovilevs wasn't showing

483
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Speaker 4: that kind of power, so you're waiting for it to happen.

484
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Speaker 4: And it was funny because you were actually ringside, but

485
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Speaker 4: on the actual telcaster, like they mentioned like where's the

486
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Speaker 4: fifth gear? When is it gonna come in? The fifth

487
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 4: gure right almost on cue is when he lands that

488
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Speaker 4: left and right, and then the.

489
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Speaker 2: Fight is over. Vicious combination.

490
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Speaker 4: That awesome though in the sense of like just it

491
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Speaker 4: just reminds you how good I agree with the hundred

492
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Speaker 4: percent and remind you just how good and explosive this guy.

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Speaker 1: As as soon as he connects like that, What can

494
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Speaker 1: you say negative about Kovlev? The only thing he didn't

495
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Speaker 1: do was discipline Canelo at any point. He didn't act

496
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Speaker 1: like the bigger man. I never would have guessed this

497
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Speaker 1: fight from the opening bell would have played out with

498
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Speaker 1: the larger Coviallev, the longer, the taller, the bigger puncher

499
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Speaker 1: acted like the boxer and the smaller fighter in Canelo

500
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Speaker 1: walking him down, landing the big power shots.

501
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Speaker 2: And we find out after the fact.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Keith Ideckuld boxing scene had some reporting

503
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Speaker 1: that okay, Canelo didn't stretch him with a catchwaight, but

504
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 1: there was a rehydration clause that nobody was willing to

505
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Speaker 1: talk about, reportedly because there was an NDA attached to it.

506
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Speaker 2: So you wonder if that compromised cove V a little bit.

507
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Speaker 2: But here's the deal.

508
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Speaker 1: Covialev entered the championship rounds with a chance to win

509
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Speaker 1: that fight, not a chance to have a say at

510
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Speaker 1: winning it, but then the three judges speak otherwise he

511
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: had a chance to win that fight. So that shows

512
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Speaker 1: you that he committed to his game plan coming in

513
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Speaker 1: of being a boxer. Gave Canelo fits, yet Canelo still

514
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Speaker 1: figured it out in the end. So when we flipped

515
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Speaker 1: this to say what does this say about Canelo? Where

516
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Speaker 1: is he now in this pound for pound debate? I

517
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Speaker 1: want to put the disclaimer out there that I think

518
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Speaker 1: it's a historical time for pound for pound. There's five

519
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: or six guys who have a claim, you know, the Spencer's, Crawford's,

520
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: Lomachenko is across the board. Here's where I think Canelo

521
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Speaker 1: gets the nod right now, there's different ways that you

522
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Speaker 1: make up your palm for pound and that's where the

523
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Speaker 1: gray area comes in.

524
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Speaker 2: Right.

525
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Speaker 1: And by the way, some people think it's worthless to

526
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Speaker 1: have this to be no, this is the real currency,

527
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Speaker 1: especially in a sport like boxing where there's bs titles

528
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Speaker 1: left or right. The real currency are things like the

529
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Speaker 1: lineal championship and pound for pound. Okay, is it in

530
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Speaker 1: journalistic nerds like me in a basement somewhere coming up

531
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Speaker 1: with it?

532
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Speaker 2: Probably? But here's the deal part. Of it is the

533
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Speaker 2: eye test. Part of it is accomplishment.

534
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Speaker 1: So on the eye test, could you say what would

535
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Speaker 1: happen if Cannelo got in the ring with Lomachenko or

536
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Speaker 1: Crawford in a mythical weight class when they all have

537
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Speaker 1: the same strengths and weaknesses in relation to their own

538
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Speaker 1: weight class. I could see where you would like the

539
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Speaker 1: dynamic nature of both of those other fighters. But what

540
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Speaker 1: else would Canelo have to do than what he did

541
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Speaker 1: over the last fourteen months? Beat Triple G in like

542
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Speaker 1: a fight of the year contender, to unify middleweight belts,

543
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Speaker 1: move up to sixty eight and fold Rocky Fielding and

544
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Speaker 1: half for a secondary title, unify against Daniel Jacobs in

545
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Speaker 1: a beautiful boxing performance, and then move up two weight

546
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Speaker 1: divisions and send the most one of the most dangerous

547
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Speaker 1: punchers of this era to hell.

548
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Speaker 2: And I spit on you for a fight, Chuck. I

549
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: Hoss like, I don't know what else he would have

551
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Speaker 1: to do before I would just wake up and go, Yeah,

552
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Speaker 1: I think this guy's the best fighter in the whole sport.

553
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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, no, I agree with you one hundred percent, man.

554
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 4: And here's the thing that you gotta love about it too.

555
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 4: He is visible, right, he is the face of boxing.

556
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Speaker 4: I think that his escalation, it's so one of those

557
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 4: be careful what you wish for, because when Covilev was

558
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Speaker 4: fighting Yard, for instance, his last one, what were we

559
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Speaker 4: talking about? They were watching that fight almost is like

560
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Speaker 4: it's a turnstile to get to the fight hit they're

561
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Speaker 4: going to And I feel like that kind of pressure

562
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Speaker 4: that you bring on yourself and you're able to excel

563
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Speaker 4: in these types of moments, especially in a fight that

564
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Speaker 4: maybe wasn't going his way. I'm not sure he could

565
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Speaker 4: have defendive, but I know you mentioned that he's had

566
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Speaker 4: the benefit of scorecards, but I'm not sure he could

567
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Speaker 4: have definitively thought he was you know, where he was at.

568
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Speaker 4: But he comes to life in that fight, and he

569
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Speaker 4: comes to life in every big moment. I put all

570
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Speaker 4: that in there too, and I think that I do.

571
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Speaker 4: I think he's like I think he is ascended to

572
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Speaker 4: the level where you could basically put him at the

573
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Speaker 4: top of the pound for poundless.

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Speaker 2: Of this one.

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Speaker 1: And let's be honest about what he's accomplised. He's twenty

576
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Speaker 1: nine years old. He had a short amateur career in

577
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Speaker 1: turn pro early. So he's got am with sixty fights. Yeah,

578
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Speaker 1: he's one titles in for division. Okay, the super middleweight

579
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: belt is a bootleg, bastardized title, but he's got wins

580
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Speaker 1: over Codo, Laura trout U, Triple G, Danny Jacobs, Covillev

581
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Speaker 1: Like you look across the board at what he has

582
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Speaker 1: accomplished in a short time that, okay, maybe it's not

583
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: time yet to do the whole Is he the greatest

584
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: Mexican fighter ever? Because I think people will crash this

585
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: bomb shelter down and show you uli senior tape. But

586
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Speaker 1: he's on the road to becoming an all time great

587
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Speaker 1: and he's trueful time, and.

588
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Speaker 4: I agree with one hundred percent. I like his I

589
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Speaker 4: like what he's doing. I like that he is basically

590
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Speaker 4: challenging himself. Some people, you know, they might have said

591
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 4: Coblet was washed, He's not the same fighter you could.

592
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 4: People are always going to do that in both sports.

593
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 4: They do this in MMA, they do this in boxing.

594
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Speaker 4: But the fact that he wants to challenge himself, the

595
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Speaker 4: fact that he's got the happy feet in his division,

596
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Speaker 4: the fact that he could return, you know, at any point,

597
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Speaker 4: back to the middle even though he says he's not

598
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 4: sure he'll he can. I know that that's bs he's

599
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 4: He's also playing a heel. Let's put it up, you

600
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Speaker 4: know what I mean. He plays the heel very well.

601
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Speaker 4: He gets people interested. He shrugs off the triple G fight.

602
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Speaker 4: I just I think everything he's doing is other level

603
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 4: right now. I really I really enjoy what he's doing.

604
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Speaker 1: We didn't comment from CC two point zero four weight champ.

605
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Speaker 1: What more could you do to be the pound for

606
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Speaker 1: pound king? I mean, it's it's a mixture of accomplishments

607
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Speaker 1: in the eye test and who would be who? It's

608
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Speaker 1: a it's a weird formula, and some people lean too

609
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Speaker 1: heavily in one direction. But let's talk about what could

610
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Speaker 1: be next for Canelos. So he surprised the media this

611
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Speaker 1: during fight week by basically being like, you know, cruiserweight,

612
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: who knows?

613
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Speaker 2: Look, that's to me.

614
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Speaker 4: That type of thing.

615
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Speaker 1: I mean, big Red's got wavos. Let's be honest right here,

616
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Speaker 1: but that that seems a bridge too far. Maybe even

617
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Speaker 1: staying around one seventy five and fighting the archer better

618
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Speaker 1: Beach seems a little bit too far.

619
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Speaker 2: But I like that it'd be a great fight.

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Speaker 1: Now, look at sixty eight, there's some names there are

621
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Speaker 1: The big names are at one hundred and sixty pounds

622
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Speaker 1: in medleweight to Zone has glove Can, They've got Andreid,

623
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Speaker 1: They've you know, they've got connections to Billy Joe Saunders.

624
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Speaker 1: There's some names there to fight, but I don't think

625
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Speaker 1: any of those. I mean, Triple G certainly is is

626
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Speaker 1: a is a big fight in a big name, but

627
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Speaker 1: I don't think any of those extend historically, which seems

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Speaker 1: to what Knell is trying to do. Yes, he wants

629
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Speaker 1: the big money, but he's not unlike Floyd.

630
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Speaker 4: It's not more like, let me tell you hi from

631
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 4: two angles. He wants the best challenge on the best

632
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 4: marketability right like he wants a big fight Florida.

633
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Speaker 1: Floyd wanted the biggest person with the least amount of

634
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Speaker 1: risk if you look at what could be out there

635
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Speaker 1: for him. My podcast partner, Raf Bartholomew, your colleague at

636
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Speaker 1: the Athletic Jay, I got you, buddy, I got you,

637
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy in my area crawling up in

638
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: my ass right now. I'm basically he wanted andre Ward

639
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: and at that time I was just sort of.

640
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Speaker 4: Like, did a great column about it today.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I was just sort of like, no, dude, andre

642
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Ward is it can do anything. Canelos not a light heavyweight. Well,

643
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: Canelo proved on Saturday he might just be a light heavyweight.

644
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: Andre Ward's been out of the game for a couple

645
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Speaker 1: of years. He's thirty five years old.

646
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Speaker 2: But he's unbeaten. He can fight and beat any style, and.

647
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Speaker 1: He's already proven through his career that he could take

648
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: multiple year layoffs and come back like nothing happened. Chuck,

649
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: this might be the perfect fight where you get enough

650
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: commercial element to it, but critical you could attach to this.

651
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Speaker 1: The idea of the winner is the face of this

652
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Speaker 1: era post Floyd min Her, I love it.

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Speaker 4: You're the one who You've mentioned this before, even before this,

654
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: but I'm like, I'm behind it because when Word walked away,

655
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: basically was like you needed restoration. He was, you know,

656
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 4: physically mentally, he wanted out. Now he's had time, you know,

657
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 4: the cushy TV gig. His name is always right there

658
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 4: right like he you know, he left at thirties, he's

659
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 4: still young enough where to get in there.

660
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Speaker 2: I dig it.

661
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Speaker 4: I hope that I know people kind of keep bringing

662
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,239
Speaker 4: it up to him. In the subtle ways people ask

663
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 4: him and he's just kind of like nah. He's not

664
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: saying flat out no, but he's just kind of like, Noah,

665
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Speaker 4: I'm good where I'm at right now, you know that

666
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 4: sort of thing. I think it would be the perfect

667
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 4: time for something like that, you know, like when there's

668
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Speaker 4: not the clear cut guy and the Triple G thing

669
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 4: sounds like it's going to be complicated. So so if

670
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: there's not clearcut guy, if that was the option, I

671
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 4: would love that.

672
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Speaker 1: And look, we all want Triple G, but the opinion

673
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: is becoming that Triple G is more over that hill

674
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Speaker 1: to the to the to the side of the water

675
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Speaker 1: where he can be washed, and Canelo is like, look,

676
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Speaker 1: I'll do it for the business, but I have nothing

677
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: to gain here. I think Canelo is showing you that

678
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Speaker 1: he might actually be passing.

679
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Speaker 4: That's like those he wants to the fights. That representing business,

680
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: right like representing, Yes, that's his word, So I'm like,

681
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Speaker 4: that would represent this.

682
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Speaker 1: I can't say anything bad about Canel anymore. I mean, like,

683
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: I get that you could get caught up on certain

684
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: things that he's done, but.

685
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: He gives us what we want, and he's also got

686
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: a weird of fiction forgetting for loading up his left

687
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: form with tattoos. His new one is his wife's eyes

688
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: right here. That's dedication in a marriage. So think about it.

689
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: Anytime you're going to grab that, your wife's looking back

690
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: at you, right. You know what I'm saying, Uh huh yeah, okay,

691
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: saying on do what you like. But if you missed

692
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: it on there too for like h for inappropriate, Yeah.

693
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Speaker 2: Just grab him in the biscuits. That's where I was

694
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: going with that. All right, to close on this, we

695
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: got to hit this topic.

696
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Speaker 1: Zone on Friday makes a decision that with the competing

697
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Speaker 1: cards UFC two forty four and Canelo Covi Lev they

698
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Speaker 1: are going to wait for the finish of Jorge Mosvil

699
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: on ADZ before coming on with the main event. Initially

700
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Speaker 1: to that news, you had a lot of fight fans

701
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Speaker 1: who wanted to watch both going, hell, yeah, now I

702
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Speaker 1: get to not miss it lost.

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Speaker 4: As one of them being in New York at that event, like, yes,

704
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Speaker 4: they're going to accommodate me and then.

705
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Speaker 2: Us that we're going to be ringside in Las Vegas.

706
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: Started to go there's not as many car fights on

707
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: the boxing cart as there is on the UFC side,

708
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: and some of these boxing fights are mismatches, like Ryan

709
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: Garcia's first round knockout in the comin event, that we

710
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: could be in trouble here and shout out to my

711
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: East Coast brethren where I normally are at, because it

712
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: was if it's three am, they must be lonely, and

713
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: it got close to that. So what this amount of

714
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: too is.

715
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Speaker 1: After Ryan Garcia's first round knockout in the comin event,

716
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Speaker 1: Canela Alivres and Sergei Kovlov, who were already gloved hands wrapped, shirtless,

717
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: warming up breaking a sweat in the locker room, had

718
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Speaker 1: to wait I think it was ninety seven minutes, ninety

719
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: seven minutes for the UFC two forty four main end

720
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Speaker 1: of the comain and entire main event to go through,

721
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Speaker 1: and in unprecedented fashion, the MGM Grand contacts ESPN says,

722
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Speaker 1: can we play the main event in the arena. So

723
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: it kept the MGM Grand fans happy. They're watching on

724
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Speaker 1: the big screen with volume.

725
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Speaker 4: But what about I was.

726
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: Wondering they actually were happy to watch that, they were okay,

727
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Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't Uproar Online Boxing Community Major Uproar.

728
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Speaker 1: If you're watching at home on his own and they're

729
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: just vamping and stretch and I'm knocking things over here.

730
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. The zone's basically saying, our number

731
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: showed us. It was a smart move.

732
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: Everybody got off of UFC, they tuned into US. But

733
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: the optics and what this message sent out, I think

734
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: it's horrific.

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Speaker 4: Well to your existing subscription base, what does that say

736
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: to the people who've already subscribed.

737
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Speaker 1: So here's what it says to them, that MMA and

738
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: UFC is a better product, that MMA and UFC is

739
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: a more important product, that we actually want you to

740
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: sit home and wait for an hour and a half,

741
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Speaker 1: turn the channel, go to sleep, have a chance to

742
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: not come back to the broadcast because we think that

743
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: this other thing is going to crush us.

744
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: That's a horrible optic. Look.

745
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't get into the Boxing versus MMAD to beate

746
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: because I love them both. I think it's it's so

747
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: old school and worthless. But if you're in that this

748
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: is a statement about boxing that that you can't Yeah,

749
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: so did you agree to do this for commercial reasons

750
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: but alienate your your audience? And how about Canelo offres

751
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: He got paid three hundred and sixty five million over

752
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: ten fights.

753
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: That's his deal.

754
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: He got thirty five million for this fight, and he's

755
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: laying on a couch having to wait ninety He's got

756
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: thirty five million reasons to stand up kick that door down.

757
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you saw Leonard deller be'sweet,

758
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: the CEO of Mayweather Promotions, he goes, if Floyd and

759
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: Showtime were on here, this wouldn't happen.

760
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: If Floyd was in that shitam happen and it shouldn't happen.

761
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: If you're gonna compete, then compete, right because exactly in

762
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Speaker 1: the end, they punted, and you could have soft punted.

763
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: You could have gone live with Canelo at eleven PM

764
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: Eastern and then UFC goes on after that and acted

765
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: like you're competing, but.

766
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: You're really not.

767
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: But to straight up punt, I agree you had the

768
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Speaker 1: better product. I went to Cannelo Covilet for a reason.

769
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: I love me some BMF, but Canelo had the potential

770
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Speaker 1: to be the bigger fight. It got more traffic on

771
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Speaker 1: CBS Sports. It was a big reason why I went there.

772
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: They had the best possible event they could have had,

773
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: and they're saying no, this other one in another sport

774
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: three thousand miles away is probably gonna do better leave me.

775
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Speaker 4: There is a psychology in play. There's a psychology between

776
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: the boxing fans and the MMA fans. MMA side, being

777
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: newer and being you know, kind of having to build

778
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 4: itself over time, has an inferiority complex.

779
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: It just does.

780
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Speaker 4: I don't think that MMA people believe that there is

781
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 4: cultured or anything as boxing because boxing has been around,

782
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: They've had the great chroniclers, they've had the big fights

783
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: for so long. This was the first time where I've

784
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: seen it where somebody took the reins and said the

785
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: UFC is actually bigger. You can imagine the UFC or

786
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: any MMA stopping its event like that and halting it

787
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: for that amount of time. Imagine the UFC doing it.

788
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: Would never happen in a million years. That would never happen.

789
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: And imagine Oscar de Lo Hooya or these guys who

790
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 4: Dana hates Oscar, they hate each other. Imagine being him,

791
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: Imagine any of these guys. There's some pretty hard feelings

792
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: between these two sports when it comes down to it.

793
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: I know you don't want to get involved with that,

794
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: but that does exist, so you can see why the

795
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: boxing side would be like, why are we doing this?

796
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: Because a lot of the boxing purists can't stand MMA

797
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: like to put that on there. It's like it's it's

798
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: a slap in the face, you know in Bellatour.

799
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, de own CEO, James Russian, I just sort

800
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: of come out and saying we're we're going to war

801
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: against UFC with Belatour, and then to see this decision,

802
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of bafo.

803
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: But we're gonna roll on.

804
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to UFC two forty four in

805
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: New York, and what you saw was some two big

806
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: names who took a big chance, went all in on

807
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: themselves and ended up coming out victorious. In the Cole

808
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: main event, you had Darren Til moving up to middleweight

809
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: claiming a decision over Kelvin Gasolom, and then you had

810
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Lee moving back down to lightweight and getting a

811
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: highlight real knockout.

812
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: Chuck.

813
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: You want to see a dead body against greg Or Gillespie, Chuck.

814
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: They both went all in. Both could not have afforded

815
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: a loss here. Which win was more redemptive in your eyes?

816
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 4: Man, that's a toughie, I would probably go with Kevin

817
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: Lee's though, to be honest, I mean I felt I

818
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 4: feel like Till was kind of thrust in too early

819
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: to his title shot, Yes, and then he had a

820
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 4: very difficult Obviously the Masvidal fight was kind of geared

821
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: towards him, but we've seen how that played out. That's tough.

822
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 4: It's funny how the sliding doors in that sense, by

823
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: the way Masvidal fighting in the main event until trying

824
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: to resurrect himself in a different weight class. But I

825
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 4: think that with Lee, just given that, you know, I

826
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: feel like people were really starting to cool on him.

827
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: I think that there was a big time moment when

828
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: he had a lot of potentials nine to two coming

829
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: out of the gate, he had some big time wins.

830
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: He was very loud, boisterous. I felt like he was

831
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: going to be something in the division or in the

832
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: UFC in general. And to see him kind of cool

833
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: and it was almost like nobody was talking about people

834
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: were right, and I was one of them. I wrote

835
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: a big piece about, you know, Gillispie. I thought that

836
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: that was going to be his big breakout Moment's undefeated fighter.

837
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: He knows how to control the cage. He's a big

838
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 4: time wrestler. He knocks people out. I was like, this

839
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: is a horrible matchup for Lee, But yeah, he goes

840
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: in there and just handles himself, very quietly, conducts himself

841
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: with a game plan in place, keeps the fight where

842
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: he wants it, and then delivers that kick man And

843
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: I was just you got to think that that guy

844
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: just came rising away and a raging back from the dead. Honestly, Like,

845
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: that's what it felt like to me. So I think

846
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: I would put him higher than Thanti.

847
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: And it was a performance in which he legitimately went

848
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: all in. I thought, look, I've been one of those

849
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: guys at day one, ishes like Kevin Lee's gonna be

850
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: a world champion in UFC, And every time it was

851
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: looking like it's about to happen, it's weight issues, it's

852
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: losing a big fight for him to come back. I

853
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: thought he took a lot of unnecessary damage against Gillespie,

854
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: but then to finish it like that, what are you

855
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: going to say about that?

856
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: He's moving back down to the deepest.

857
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: Division in the sport and he's looking like a player,

858
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: And if you're going to write about him can you

859
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this third nipple?

860
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: Was another staff infection? This guy is there's always something

861
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: like that.

862
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

863
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: He said was an ingrown hair.

864
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: So wow, all right. I do want to say, though,

865
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: shout out to Darren Till. I've never been big on Daruntel.

866
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: I thought he got right.

867
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: He was very honest too, like he was very candid

868
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: in his interviews about his feelings.

869
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: I was just gonna hit that I'd never been I

870
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: thought he got rushed. I thought they were hoping he

871
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 1: was the next Connor. They gave him things he didn't deserve,

872
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: and for him to come out and say I was

873
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: in the locker room trying to come up with a

874
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: fake injury because and look, I predicted Gastolone would walk

875
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: right through him. I thought this was a bad fight

876
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: to take. Dana White said, this was a bad fight

877
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: to take. Talk about going all in on yourself. Props

878
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: to Darrent Til for being that real.

879
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: The fight wasn't the greatest. The building kind of sagged

880
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 4: during that fight. But I thought when I watched it

881
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: in retrospect, especially when you think back, and I'm like,

882
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 4: I think that Till fought the fight. He needed to fight,

883
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: He needed to get his confidence back, especially knowing that

884
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 4: kind of context. You know, Holse said that exact thing

885
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 4: about you start at your backstage. You're so nervous, you're

886
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 4: thinking about a car coming and picking you up and

887
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: taking you out of there, or faking an injury GSP.

888
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: GSP is another guy who had that. It's one of

889
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 4: those situations. I think there's guys. Not a lot of

890
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: guys are going to be honest about that situation beause

891
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: it was supposed to especially when the BMF is at

892
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: the top of this thing. You people think of these

893
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: fighters a certain way, but they are human beings, and

894
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: I think that that's a common sort of thing to flee.

895
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: You know, I love GSP, but never forget when he

896
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: wore those jorts that went down below his knee when

897
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: he cut that promo on Matt Hughes.

898
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean John Cena, I mean, come on,

899
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: shout out to that, all right.

900
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: Staying in line with UFC two forty four, so many

901
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: storylines this weekend.

902
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: We had a light heavyweight about that was must see.

903
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: When you're talking about Johnny Walker running through folks at

904
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: two o five flying knee knockouts, flying, flying, dong knock,

905
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, flying everything, and then he ran into Corey Anderson,

906
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: a gritty veteran, a true wrestler, and Corey Anderson straight

907
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: up beat that ass chuck.

908
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: This was a brutal finish, a dominant performance, and.

909
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: Considering where Corey Anderson came from recently showing up at

910
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: a card show, I think assigning to try to get

911
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: a title set from John Jones, being told by Dana White, No, no,

912
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: you're not You're not of that ilk. You don't move

913
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: the needle, and then going away a guy that we

914
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: thought was ready for a title shot.

915
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what's next recreation after this?

916
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if he's going to get the

917
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: title shot, that's what. As crazy as all this is,

918
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: and he's actually going on record just like, Hey, if

919
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: you're not going to give me the title shot, then

920
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 4: release me. It's almost like he's still continuing on with

921
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: this this angst he brought into this situation. He looked

922
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 4: like a very dangerous spoiler in the situation. Honestly, his

923
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 4: intensity all week was like that. I wasn't surprised. He

924
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: was a tough He's he's always been a tough guy.

925
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 4: He's looked very good, but he doesn't usually finish over

926
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 4: the last three fights. I mean, the reason he's not

927
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: getting in the title discussion because he did. His fights

928
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 4: are just kind of non descript. You know, he's been grinding.

929
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: But the run he's putting together a name.

930
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 4: Now now it changes, right because he goes in there

931
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: and he beats up the guy who they're kind of

932
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 4: grooming for the situation. I'm not sure he jumps into

933
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: that pool position, not with domind Grays out there. But

934
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 4: at the same time, I think he just did himself

935
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 4: a lot of favors. I think he put himself either

936
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: into a title eliminator type of situation, you know, or

937
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 4: against a big enough name where it'll be mare. You know,

938
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 4: they can they can market at the right way to

939
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 4: get him to that.

940
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if they plugged him in against

941
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: John Jones, it wouldn't be a bad movie, but.

942
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: I would say them.

943
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: But I do think Don ras and he's got the

944
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: toyot Tios commercial which shows you they're ready to push

945
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: him to the top. For Johnny Walker, though it was

946
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: a bad performance, I'd been harsh on him because because

947
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: the carnival circus antics, I haven't been a big fan

948
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: of it.

949
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: You don't have the sensuality in the water.

950
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: There's a pretty much there's a creep vibe coming out

951
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: of that. But shout out to the performances he had

952
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: to get to this point. Look, I want to live

953
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: in a world where one loss doesn't derail somebody in

954
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: either combat sport, right. I want to live in a

955
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: world where you can bounce back from that. So I

956
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: think for Johnny Walker, we have to understand that when

957
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: you're blown away dudes in thirty seconds, you don't actually

958
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: know how good you are.

959
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: Right, We don't know how good he is, and we

960
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: just found it out.

961
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: And I think that he's got so many tools that

962
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: he's certainly got a great chance to bounce back as

963
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: longly as them fall on his shoulder.

964
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 4: He's also just what I realized this the first time

965
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: I've really been around him for a fight week. I

966
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 4: felt like, you know, he's got that charisma. Man, He's

967
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: got that something more about him that I think will

968
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: translate over the long haul. But I agree he needed

969
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: to show that I was more interested if this fight

970
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: went the full disc since how he'd look over the

971
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 4: course of three rounds. It did not last that, but

972
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 4: you know, he's got a lot of room to grow.

973
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: I think that he's We've seen his power, We've seen

974
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 4: what he's able to do. Add some wrinkles to it.

975
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 4: I think that he'll be just fine man.

976
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: All right.

977
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: Also staying in the UFC here final topic, you've seen

978
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: middleweight champion Israelata Sonia told our own Luke Thomas during

979
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: Friday's radio show in New York City that he indeed

980
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: wants to defend his title against you all Romero next

981
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: after Paulo Costa was injured kind of pulled off of

982
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: the title title fast track at the moment right here, Chuck,

983
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about a bag of sex

984
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: that fight has? Like like, I'm already sweating and I

985
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: think I'm sweating even more. But it's interesting right now.

986
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Darren Till just resurfaced in a new division. It looks

987
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: pretty damn good off one fight. Jared Cannonier has been

988
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: putting together a thing.

989
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: Considering some of the close calls Romiro his head, does

990
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: he deserve to get plugged in right now?

991
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: So the fact that Paulo Costa was supposed to be

992
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: the guy, but he can't fight. But yet rome Aro

993
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: just fought him. If you just do this basic math

994
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 4: equays they just fought in one of the bizarro epic

995
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: fights of the year. I think it was just a

996
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: crazy fight. Where you did you saw that fight? I mean,

997
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 4: it was just Costa and Romero was one of those

998
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: fights that it will stay. I'll remember it in ten

999
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 4: years from now when you're looking back at the year.

1000
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: That fight was so crazy. The fact that Romero looked

1001
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: that way at forty two years old and was able

1002
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: to kind of like push Costa into that. I'm like,

1003
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 4: to me, you could have flipped a coin either one

1004
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: and they'd be the contender anyway. So Romero was that

1005
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 4: close to being able to beat cost and go on.

1006
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: So I'm like, plug plug him in. I'm fine with it.

1007
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 4: The other guys are not with the guy. Here's the

1008
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: thing that I love. You have a guy who's a

1009
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 4: champion who wants the hardest fight possible. I love that

1010
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 4: this is something we don't get anymore.

1011
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: He wants all the smoke. Shout up to Stephen Jackson

1012
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: and Matt Barnes there.

1013
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely, in fact, he wants that fight. Whoever calls out

1014
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 4: Romero in a situation where you could completely avoid him.

1015
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: I'm all about Israel out of Sonya, on his bravery

1016
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 4: and his courage and all that stuff, like him wanting

1017
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: to fight him, wanting that fight and wanting to prove

1018
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 4: that shit. Man, I'm done.

1019
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: And I think a couple months ago we had a

1020
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: long debay on the show of like, I don't know

1021
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: if I've seen Romero lose yet on the on the

1022
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: high level, I thought he'd be Costa. I thought he'd

1023
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: bet Whitaker the second time around. I mean, could you

1024
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: imagine this fight on paper? This is as good as

1025
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: it gets injected right into me right now. And speaking

1026
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: of other showtime franchises that were a big rich you

1027
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: Diaries fan of the nineties?

1028
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: Uh?

1029
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: Not not big?

1030
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't say big were you?

1031
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: It must be the Irish curse. You just want you

1032
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: just want count all right? Yes, there we go on

1033
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: the nineties. One more thing about Adisania though, did you

1034
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: see that tweet he put out yesterday from Madison Square Garden?

1035
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: Kind of a revolution going on here. I think he's

1036
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: joining a jay in the back. Do you mind throwing

1037
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: that tweet up?

1038
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: Touching tips? Who would have thought that? Too? Crazy?

1039
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: As that two crazy ass Polish warriors during away and

1040
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: who were so jacked up that they had to go

1041
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: shaft on shaft that they would start a movement, a

1042
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: world tour people touching tips all over the globe.

1043
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: Now, Chuck, if Jay says one more thing in my ear,

1044
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to tip.

1045
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 4: It's a live I'm gonna give you full credit for this.

1046
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: This is you.

1047
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: Wow.

1048
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: Could you ever be that angry at another guy where

1049
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: you're just gonna walk right up? All right, that's it,

1050
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: that's it, Thank you very much. All right, that'll wrap

1051
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: up the big topics of the week. Now we want

1052
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: to hear from you, folks. It's time for dms from doncs.

1053
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: Please let your voice be heard. Who do we got

1054
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: this week? We have to see somebody named web Scream

1055
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: or who do we got at shoes, Underscore Mustache.

1056
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: That's a hell of a name.

1057
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: Okay.

1058
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Does it make more sense to use doctors familiar with

1059
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: the sports and fighters or to use commission doctors unfamiliar

1060
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: with no bias to focus simply on the athlete's health

1061
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: and safety. This is in regards to the stoppage of

1062
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: Nate Diez's cut. What do you think about ringside cage

1063
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: side doctors in their fight knowledge.

1064
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 4: Generally speaking, I feel like this is a non issue.

1065
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 4: I mean, most cases, there's very few fights. It's usually

1066
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: when there's a big gash like that, it's very superficial,

1067
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 4: but it could be blinding to them. I feel like

1068
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 4: in most cases they handle it appropriately and in most states,

1069
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like this is really it doesn't

1070
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: come up. It was just the magnitude of this event

1071
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 4: and the kind of scrutiny behind it and the expectations

1072
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 4: behind it that made this different. If you really step

1073
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 4: back and just say, like, if it's just a normal

1074
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: main event and this there's a you know this whatever

1075
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 4: it is, are you going to have a problem with

1076
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: that fight being stopped because of the cut? I wouldn't. No,

1077
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: It's just that it shouldn't have been for the BMF.

1078
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: And it just it just so happened that Nate was

1079
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: coming on, and he was coming he was putting the

1080
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: fists together. But uh, yeah, I mean, look, I'd want

1081
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: somebody to be a better doctor than a fight fan.

1082
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: I get the question. The question is would you understand

1083
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: certain fighters better? Who has a history of being able

1084
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: to take damage and bounce back? But yeah, I'd just

1085
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: rather have the best doctor possible looking out for that.

1086
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 4: I think, I think so.

1087
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't mean to get soft on you people, all right,

1088
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 2: but it's.

1089
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: Not I think so too. You don't want some guys like, hey, man,

1090
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 4: I know you're tougher than that. I'm gonna leave. I'm

1091
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: gonna let you.

1092
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1093
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Remember rocking to anything was like, no, I went

1094
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: out of this fight. So like, oh, you're fine, go

1095
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: back out there in the deep waters. All right, what

1096
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: do we got hit?

1097
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: Let's hit it up from the people at McMichael Josh

1098
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: is Johnny Walker the only guy that crosses his arms

1099
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: to take his T shirt off?

1100
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what this is in reference to,

1101
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: so what is he he?

1102
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 4: I guess it's like this. I don't know. I don't understand.

1103
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: But how do you take your T shirt off?

1104
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: Do you do the manly like let me reach over,

1105
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: or do you do I do like the six year

1106
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: old way where you put the hand through the shirt

1107
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: and you're.

1108
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: Like, I've definitely done it that way. If the shirt

1109
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 4: is tight, you wear your shirt's very tight.

1110
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: Well that's gonna get a fat but you know, hey,

1111
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: shout out to this shirt right here, right, Wow. Wow,

1112
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: you got a little roots of merch on right now. Yeah,

1113
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: like that Helio Gracie, like that boss, Yeah yeah, right wow.

1114
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: So I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. I don't

1115
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: know where that question so right now? Johnny Walker is

1116
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: a weirdo, though, let's be really honest.

1117
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 4: Okay, at least he wasn't trying to seduce his audience

1118
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 4: this time. I mean usually he's a former dancer, right, Like,

1119
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 4: There's been a couple of times he's stripping on the

1120
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: way of the cage.

1121
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: Hey, some people will get down with that.

1122
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe he knows something we don't psychologically about. All right.

1123
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: Donktoberfest rolls on with at se Vasquez twelve fourteen. Should

1124
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: UFC and his own Comma Boxing MMA Promotions workout he

1125
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: scheduled together for big events like this weekend. This is

1126
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: a good question because you've got arguably the biggest boxing

1127
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: fighter of the year or second or third, I mean

1128
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: it's one of the big ones, Canelo cove live and

1129
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: you have a can't miss UFC two forty four card.

1130
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: Should one of them have altered the times or switched

1131
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: nights now or do you just say.

1132
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: Nights maybe but you just want to see you don't

1133
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: want to see them go ahead to head. As a

1134
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: fight fan, I wanted to watch both things.

1135
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: Like they're not going to work together. We don't expect

1136
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: networks and promotions to work towere, but it will never happen.

1137
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: I like it when it just so you get to

1138
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: the point where you're like you you you watch all

1139
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: the fights just like I do.

1140
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: I want to. You set a DVR or whatever, you

1141
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: set it up and you try.

1142
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: To do it.

1143
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: I like it when things just work out. This one

1144
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: did not work out at all. It was the timing

1145
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: was way off. It just didn't work. I would rather

1146
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 4: that the promotions and I know the U the UFC

1147
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 4: had their event first, right, I would I would like

1148
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: the promote I'd like people to be a little more cognitive.

1149
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: Yes, because Canelo was gonna go in September and then

1150
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: then he pulled.

1151
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 4: So it's like you, you would like them to be

1152
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: a little more cons And if you're going to go

1153
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: head to head with something like the UC and something

1154
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 4: like that pay per view, regardless who was booked, it's

1155
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: a pay per view, you know it's going to be

1156
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 4: a special event at Madison Square. Garden. Just accept it.

1157
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 4: You know that you're going to go head to head,

1158
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: Go head to head. If you're going to do that,

1159
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 4: If not, book it for another day. That's all I say.

1160
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 4: It will never work the other way.

1161
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: I'll never I mean, it's never ideal when a giant

1162
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: UFC card and a giant boxing paper viewer going head

1163
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: to head. It's the world we live in. I'd just

1164
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: like to see more fight promoters and they're slowly doing this.

1165
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: Get off of Saturday night? Why is Saturday night? And

1166
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: specifically putting it on at twelve thirty pm Eastern on

1167
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: Saturday Night? Can we go to Friday or Thursday or

1168
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: Sunday when people are home? I mean, I get you're

1169
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: not gonna go get the NFL. There's certain seasons for this,

1170
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: but can.

1171
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 4: We stop by at night thing? I'm like, please just

1172
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: move the the boxing night. Move it to Friday night.

1173
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like Lucie, can can we wake up and

1174
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: do that? Please? Let's do that? All right? Is there

1175
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: any more donks here?

1176
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: I need to hear from the people at Mt Booble

1177
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: that's getting somewhere. With the ridiculous circumstances during the WWE

1178
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: event last week the crown jewel in Saudi Arabia? Should

1179
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: that raise even more concern for the December seventh thie

1180
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: match between Joshua and Ruiz that is also happening in Saudi. So,

1181
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: just in case you guys don't know, WW went back

1182
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: to Saudi Arabia on Thursday.

1183
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: It was it's a controversial thing.

1184
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: They're getting millions to do it, and there was this

1185
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: weird sort of thing that's been reported by longtime wrestling

1186
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: scribe Dave Meltzer and others that the Saudi government may

1187
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: not have paid in time.

1188
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: Vince McMahon may have threatened to not go live with

1189
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: the broadcast.

1190
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: Then suddenly there's wrestlers left on a plane on a

1191
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: tarmac with mechanical issues. They're left for twenty four hours.

1192
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: They don't make it SmackDown in time, Like it's just

1193
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: mayhem there. The wrestlers feel like they're pawns in this game.

1194
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: We already know if you're gonna take the money, you're

1195
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: kind of dancing with the devil. Because there's some certain

1196
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: human rights issues going on in Saudi Arabia right now?

1197
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: Would you have fear of your design right now? I

1198
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: mean with reports that AJ is getting seventy five million

1199
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 2: to go there.

1200
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 4: Man, I mean yeah, probably. I mean when you're dealing

1201
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 4: in that kind of money and basically this is all

1202
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: this is all this is right, Like you just mentioned,

1203
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: you're crossing some moral grounds here to go make that money. Yeah,

1204
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: if it's all about the money and you're you're hearing

1205
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 4: reports or whatever's going on behind the scenes here that

1206
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 4: there's some snags that way that would be concerning you agree.

1207
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.

1208
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: It's also a really bad look to go there and

1209
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: take money these days from them. But if you're gonna

1210
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: do it, you gotta deal with what's going on here. Look,

1211
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you got to be willing to fight.

1212
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: And I guess in a way Vince McMahon was there

1213
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: was some standouts, but whatever, whatever whatever on that. All right,

1214
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: we got one more from the from the Donals. Let's

1215
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: bring him in here, ad Emilio Brucilla. What would be

1216
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 1: your walkout song if you were a fighter? And Chuck

1217
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: or Mindenhall, Gosh, there's some good ones.

1218
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: Rory McDonald walked out to tools forty six and two

1219
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: and I thought that was I thought that was cool.

1220
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: I thought about that one before. It just has this

1221
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 4: creepy build up and then when it hits, it hits

1222
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 4: as you entered the octagon right at that moment. That

1223
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 4: would probably be up there. I've thought about that before.

1224
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 4: There's another song. There's I like some instrumental ones that

1225
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: I've heard that i've overtime. You're like, oh, that'd be

1226
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: a cool walkout song. There's one by deer Hunter called

1227
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: dot Gain, which is a really cool one. Look at

1228
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 4: that one up and I'm.

1229
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: Glad you're not dipping into Luke's territory of like slaying

1230
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: children or whatever. No, I can't abortion rock.

1231
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what he's about. Like Josh Barnett's walk

1232
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: Out some things.

1233
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might.

1234
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't go quite that crazy.

1235
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: I think people would assume I would dip into the nineties,

1236
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: maybe go like Breakfast at Tiffany's by Deep Blue something,

1237
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't. I would go with Van Halen's Mean

1238
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: Streets right, Okay, you know what opening guitar that's just grimy.

1239
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: It's just I need to see that.

1240
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 4: Look.

1241
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: I need to set the tone that I'm coming out

1242
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: there to do two things right, kick ass and and

1243
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: and and take names and and take take your girl

1244
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: and all that stuff.

1245
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: You know, that would definitely set that that would be probably.

1246
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: Pretty lame by today's crowd. That's not dating myself there,

1247
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: that's showing that putting the old balls on the line.

1248
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: All right, those are the dongs. Thank you for chirping

1249
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: in this week.

1250
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: Continue to hit us up on there on Instagram each

1251
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: week and let your voice be heard.

1252
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: Chuck, it is time for my favorite segment of the

1253
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: week where I scour the globe over this past week

1254
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: to get the highs, the lows, the in betweens, the good,

1255
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: the bad, and the ugly from combat sports. Have you

1256
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: seen this ship, chuckmanden Hall.

1257
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: We start out at bur Cut Young Eagles, a man

1258
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: named Roman Avdil.

1259
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: Check out this spinning backfist. Oh I'm dead dead, you

1260
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: know what?

1261
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: I think that referee is actually ripping back the canvas

1262
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: and starting the grave form right there.

1263
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 4: Hand. Look at this.

1264
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: Wow?

1265
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 4: Was that extra shot necessary?

1266
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: No? I mean you don't often see like face first,

1267
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: you know, like like I think the floor chaota. I

1268
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: mean that's just.

1269
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 4: Dude.

1270
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: Shout out to Gribacca, always shout out to to fueling

1271
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: all of us with what's going on around the globe,

1272
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: right there.

1273
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's my god.

1274
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 2: We roll onto an event called Muy.

1275
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 4: Hardcore, right all right?

1276
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: Check out?

1277
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: What are their names? Can you?

1278
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't know? Farsad sign King? Where's Linda Blair? Do

1279
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: you want to see an exorcism?

1280
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: Here, Chuck?

1281
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: You want to see you want to see some holy

1282
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: ghost power? I'll watch. Did you see this? Do you

1283
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: see the demon come out of it? Right there?

1284
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 4: Wow?

1285
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: And look at the referee hits his head on the

1286
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: ropes because oh wow, and why is this ref counting?

1287
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: Look at this guy? What are you counting right now?

1288
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 4: Three?

1289
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 2: Four?

1290
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: Wow?

1291
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah wow? That could be an std wow wow Chuck?

1292
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: All right there, Wow, we're really bringing it this week

1293
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: right here, crazy Chuck? Have you seen the ship does roll?

1294
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: Let's see this morning? Here we go, Chick fight time

1295
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: at Eternal mm A forty nine.

1296
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes if you go for a flying arm bar, that

1297
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: can happen. You can knock yourself out.

1298
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 4: Does these people's heads kind of popping up after they're unconscious?

1299
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Speaker 2: That's a hashtag fail? That's a hashtag jiu jitsu fail?

1300
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: You She was probably watching Demetrius Johnson ray board. She's like,

1301
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: I can do this thing, right, Jesus. I mean, no

1302
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: disrespect to her. She went for it, she went all in, right,

1303
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 2: she put on the weird camo shirt, she went all in.

1304
00:50:58,920 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: But she's all out now.

1305
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 4: Strangest knockout you'll over now, you know, I.

1306
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 2: Gotta give these people credit, Chuck. Like it's twenty nineteen.

1307
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: There's cell phone cams everywhere.

1308
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: There's cams on that like you, you try something wacky

1309
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: and you get knocked the hell out like this. I mean,

1310
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: people like us are sitting here with with you know,

1311
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: making fun of him. It's it's a tough world we

1312
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: live in, right, Chuck. You can't even get a fight.

1313
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: On the on the bus anymore without people putting it

1314
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: on the internet, right and moving harm All right, all right,

1315
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: let's let's roll on here, Chuck. You know the infamous

1316
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: UFC legend called the Just Breed Guy, the greatest guy

1317
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: of all times, the great It look like I get

1318
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: high above him, the greatest fight fan in UFC. Out

1319
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: to Mark Kerr, the greatest fight fan in UFC history.

1320
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, during Jeremy Stevens fight, there's a new

1321
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: Just Bleed Guy. Watch this, Okay, Steven's getting fired up

1322
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: for Barbosa.

1323
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: Where was that Boston? Look at this guy, the just

1324
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: direct guy.

1325
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 4: What is this a hole doing?

1326
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: You have your moment, you have your chance to get

1327
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: fired up, to spit so to bleed, to let your

1328
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: fluids fly, and you're like no check, uh wow, how

1329
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: lame is this guy? Chuck?

1330
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: But if you go ahead to head, whoa is that

1331
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: the same guy? I know, the just bleed guy went

1332
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: to jail for a while. There's been some great features

1333
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, he's out of jail.

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00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Is that the same guy?

1335
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: I mean?

1336
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: Follow up?

1337
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: Look, well, first of all, look at that old guy

1338
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: right there. I don't know if this is like, is

1339
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: this taking in a bathroom? Look at the guy's face.

1340
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 1: But Chuck, this might be the same person.

1341
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 4: I might need you on the athletic to get it's

1342
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: just like aged like ten years or something. Yeah, look

1343
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 4: at the the just bleed guy came out. I love

1344
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: the evolution from just.

1345
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: Bleed to just cut. I don't know, like, what are

1346
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: you doing?

1347
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: Are you?

1348
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: Are you cheering for cuts? Like? That's pretty lame.

1349
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 4: Who comes right?

1350
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of lame, let's go out to the desert for

1351
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: w W Crown Jewel Linny A little heavyweight champion. I said, Linnel,

1352
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: little Tyson Fury against Bronze Strowman and Chuck, I gotta

1353
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: be honest with you, this was a shit show. Tyson

1354
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: Fury might be one of the worst celebrity crossover wrestlers

1355
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: we have ever I've ever seen six foot nine of

1356
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: get the hell out of my ring. He ends up

1357
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: finishing the fight with a knockout punch and it was

1358
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: comically bad. I mean, look shout out to the guy

1359
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: for going after it when you got a big heavyweight

1360
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: rematch coming up. But Broun did the job to him.

1361
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: Fury went over and it was uh, it was Carney.

1362
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: It was heavy carn all right.

1363
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: So he's not as good at this as say Kane

1364
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 4: Velaskaz No.

1365
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: And speaking of Kane Velasquaz, he had the rematch heard

1366
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: around the world. They called it the biggest combat sports

1367
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: event of all time. The rematch nine years later, I

1368
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: didn't know, and I don't know if you watched it,

1369
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: but it.

1370
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: Only Wow Brown Pride. It only lasted like two minutes

1371
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: and Caine ended up tapping out due to a Camurra lock. Okay,

1372
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: so Tyson makes Stroman do the job, but Kane walks

1373
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 2: in and Brocks. Brock went over, bro that's crazy.

1374
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 5: Um, let's sure I buy that. Just to report the

1375
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 5: actual fight, the literal fight, the literal fight, the one

1376
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 5: at Brock wasted the best beard of his life that night. Ye,

1377
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 5: But just to report Kane actually is a good wrestler.

1378
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 5: They did this match in almost like an MMA shoot style.

1379
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: It was interesting. It's going to be interesting to see, though,

1380
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: what they do with Kane's personality because there is no

1381
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: apparently not. But the guy can move a little bit.

1382
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: Probably wants to get up on those pds though, now

1383
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: that he's out of you know, Vince can't be looking

1384
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: at those moves without thinking, you know, let's let's somebody inject.

1385
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: Get the boys need their candy. Come on, we gotta

1386
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: get out of here, all right, Chuck, I know what

1387
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: you're thinking. We just went through five. Have you seen

1388
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: the ships and nobody touched a dong, nobody went tip

1389
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: to tip. I do have bonus footage for you. Here's

1390
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: a bone cancer survivor or a team that's thrown out

1391
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: the first pitch for the Red Sox multiple times.

1392
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: Oh the bone, give it from the bone, take it

1393
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: right into that. Oh my god, right into that photog

1394
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: bone bag.

1395
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 3: Look at that.

1396
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: First of all, who is who? You think the guy

1397
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: regrets wearing a pink shirt? Now now that this happened, Oh,

1398
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: I mean, shout out to the king.

1399
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1400
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if you survive bone cancer, you can do

1401
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: what you want. But yeah, wow, that is some wo

1402
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: That is some ball on tip action right there. That's

1403
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: that happened recently.

1404
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: No, that's that's the old that's some old footage there.

1405
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: Shout out to that right there. Wow, all right, times,

1406
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: we're gonna close this show this week with odds and ends. Chuck,

1407
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 2: why don't you hold that? You can't follow it, You

1408
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: can't follow that. Why don't you go first? All right, Chuck?

1409
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: What do we want? Odds and ends?

1410
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 4: Time, odds and ends? You know at UFC two forty

1411
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 4: four this weekend? Uh, your boy Edmund Tarverdian right, Tarvardian

1412
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 4: Head movement. Yeah, head movement was back very quietly with

1413
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 4: this prospect, this twenty one year old prospect from the

1414
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 4: Los Angeles gym Edmund, and that cat, first of all,

1415
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 4: has looked very good in the UFC. He's looked very good.

1416
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 4: Nobody's really talking about him, though. This was kind of

1417
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 4: still like under the radar, but people who have been

1418
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 4: paying attention and are starting to basically know that he's good.

1419
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 4: He's fighting a guy, Brad Savaras, who's a very tough out.

1420
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 4: Not a lot of guys beat him. He's very tough

1421
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: to put away. Jabazi was able to go in there

1422
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: and basically get a head kick and score that victory,

1423
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 4: and it was very nice. I looked over at Edwin Tarvaridian,

1424
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 4: who's had a hillatious run after the Ronda rolseason. He's

1425
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 4: been a prom brown, he's been it's been a meme.

1426
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 4: He's been everything like he's had problems outside, he's had

1427
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 4: court probably like you know, legal problems, everything. And this

1428
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 4: guy was going up to congratulate and he stopped and

1429
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: crippled over and just started wailing, like balling. I didn't

1430
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 4: see that, and he started bawling like it meant so

1431
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: much to him, and I sat there and watching him.

1432
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 4: He probably he probably was wailing for a good two

1433
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 4: or three minutes before he could even get in there,

1434
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 4: like he was crippled over, basically crying. And I've realized

1435
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 4: just how much he's been going through silently because he's

1436
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 4: not been talking a lot he's not out there putting

1437
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: out interviews and he's not he hasn't really redeemed himself

1438
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 4: in any public way. But to see something like that,

1439
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 4: you know how the fight goes. Man, he silently killed

1440
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: some of these guys, man, And to see him kind

1441
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 4: of have that moment and.

1442
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: Look every time, and I'm and look, I've kind of

1443
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: cloimned him in public too. When I see him, I

1444
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: was like, Edmund, what's up?

1445
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: Man?

1446
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: And you go up and you give him a false

1447
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: high five, and you know he'd been grooming Edmund Schabazi

1448
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 1: and for a while, like since he was a small team.

1449
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: And to see him blow through Brad Tavarus like that

1450
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: and show you that's awesome. Man. He's a player at middleway,

1451
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, long terms eleven and oh now I mean

1452
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: that that was.

1453
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, So shout out to Edmund. Ed he's so poised

1454
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 4: to Shabazi and like he goes in there. He doesn't

1455
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 4: some of these guys, especially Madison Square Garden. He's going

1456
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: against a veteran. I think we were talking with Luke

1457
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 4: last week. He's like, you know, if you beat a

1458
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 4: guy like that, that's on your resume, that's like the

1459
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 4: meat of your resume. At that point, it kind of

1460
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: goes a long way and serves your street cred. He

1461
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 4: went right through him. Man, it was a It was

1462
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 4: a that was a showcase. That was a showcase.

1463
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: Shout out to al Jamin Sterling.

1464
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: Al Jo filled this chow ye late last week for

1465
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: a special edition of Morning Combat.

1466
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 4: I think he's not afraid to give his opinion.

1467
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: The people like him all.

1468
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: Right, odds and ends this week Saturday on his own

1469
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: is the KSI Logan Paul rematch, first time with the

1470
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: headgear off the.

1471
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Speaker 4: Pro going ahead to head against Russia. Russia.

1472
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, going ahead to ahead against that. So here's

1473
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: the deal, Chuck. I've interviewed both guys. I gotta be honest,

1474
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: like they're charming. They got me to care or they

1475
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: got me to care. They have respected what this fight is.

1476
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: Their first fight, which was with headgear was actually like

1477
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: kind of a decent boxing match. Yeah, I mean, Logan

1478
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: Paul did tell me a story about how he lost

1479
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: fifteen percent of his right ball. If you want to

1480
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: check out my podcast because that's the content that the

1481
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: people crave.

1482
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 2: But I talked to JJ Kside tips and balls man

1483
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: a right, and I got it, and I don't know

1484
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: if you saw them at the press conference, there's a

1485
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: lot of weird hand jobs going on, but shows I

1486
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: actually I care about it.

1487
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: I know I'm I'm that guy that they're going after, right, yeah,

1488
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: but it's it's gotten to me. They've they've guaranteed a knockout,

1489
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: they've guaranteeed murder basically, and for both of them, they're

1490
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: sort of putting the future of their entertainment careers, in

1491
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: their words, at stake, where if they lose, they don't

1492
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna be able to cross over into

1493
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: music and do these things because of how embarrassing it

1494
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: would be.

1495
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 4: That's a good point, man, Will you care?

1496
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: Though you're sort of the perfect guy who could be

1497
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: on the fence, you could hate this crap.

1498
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 4: You know, I've been following it perphectly. I actually get

1499
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 4: more interested in how the boxing media responds to something

1500
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 4: like this because the boxing I love the curmudgeons that

1501
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: exists in the boxing media. You being one of the exceptions.

1502
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 4: I feel like you kind of keep it very light.

1503
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of guys in the boxing media

1504
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 4: that can't stand this kind of shit. How is it

1505
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 4: being handled that way are people are.

1506
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: It's a mix.

1507
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean, when I had Logan Paul on my podcast,

1508
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: the hardcorees went at me. But you know, I've been

1509
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: surprised that how much boxing has embraced us more on

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Speaker 1: the business side. Guys like Devin Hainey, the bright young Prospect,

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Speaker 1: Billy Joe Saunders are like, I need to be on

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Speaker 1: this card because the exposure.

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Speaker 2: There's actually something good this can do in terms of

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Speaker 2: crossing over. It's just bizarre.

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Speaker 1: It's bizarre that in twenty nineteen we're having essentially a

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Speaker 1: pay per view fight with two YouTube starles.

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Speaker 4: They had back in the day. What was it like

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00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: celebrity boxing we're screeched by like horshack and those types

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00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 4: of things, and obviously that's a whole different thing. I

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00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: do think that some of that feel like, some of

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00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 4: that feeling is attached to it. But I'll be paying attention, man.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I like the weird arcane, you know, I

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00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 4: like that type of thing.

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Speaker 1: To closing on UFC Moscow this weekend. We talked at

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Speaker 1: length last week with Luke about Greg Hardy. So this

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Speaker 1: main event featherweight is a beat mogul Med Shecherapov against

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Speaker 1: Calvin catered not a bad fight here. How long if

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Speaker 1: a beat gets this, If he can win this fight,

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Speaker 1: and I want to know, if you think he can,

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01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: he's got to be knocking on that door.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be the beat time.

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Speaker 4: Soon it will be. I feel like he's been groomed

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01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: and he's I mean like it's the same kind of

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01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 4: escalation right, Like he's getting a nice build, he got,

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01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 4: he fought a couple of guys he should beat. Then

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Speaker 4: he gets a couple of guys who throw a little doubt.

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Speaker 4: Now he's fighting a guy which was supposed to happen

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01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 4: in Boston, by the way, and it moves, which is

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01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 4: kind of crazy for Calvin. They could have had the

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01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 4: cut to go over there. Yeah, he's going just direct guy.

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01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 4: He's going over to Russia to do this. I just

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01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 4: think that. And you know he trains in New Jersey,

1543
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 4: trains with Nick Kotone and a lot of those guys,

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01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 4: Frankie Edgar And if you talk to those guys, they've

1545
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 4: been they've been talking about him like it's an eventuality.

1546
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 4: You know, it's inevitable that he'll be a champion someday.

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01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 4: I feel like this is the big moment for him

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01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 4: because obviously it's a main event, it's happening in Russia.

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01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, one big more, especially against

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01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 4: a guy like Cater. Resounding victory here probably puts him

1551
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 4: right into that mix. You know it's going to be

1552
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 4: a violent fight. It's going to be a violent fight.

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01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 4: Calvin cator Man wanted this fight, and that that cat

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01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 4: Man is just he's a run. He's on a run,

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01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 4: and he's mean I could see. I mean, this isn't

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01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 4: a slam dunk for z beat. I mean, I feel

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 4: like this fight could go either way. To be honest,

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01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 4: with the idea of the beat in Max, I would

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01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: love that. He's one of those guys that, yeah, genuinely

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01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 4: brings like something more to the scenario. I feel like

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01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 4: that's going to be a big time fight when they

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Speaker 4: make it all right.

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Speaker 1: I've got a flushed vegas out of my out of

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01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: my system, out of my veins. Oh one quick thing.

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Speaker 1: I took the subway here through New York City. Yeah,

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: I am the worst jay. You know, I grew up

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01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: ninety minutes from New York City. I've got the ingrain

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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: streets marts for my parents. No eye contact.

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Speaker 2: I'll put your wallet in your front pocket, that kind

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01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: of stuff.

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01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: So this gentleman this morning, I gotta tell the story

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01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: because I feel like I almost know it. Almost I

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01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: don't wonder if it actually happened. This gentleman sits down

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01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: next to me, no introduction, know how you're doing, just

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01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: starts telling me his life story out loud, in no

1576
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: eye contact. And he tells me that he's thirty seven

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Speaker 1: years old and he's fathered nineteen children, all boys, and

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01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: he has seven grandkids. And I don't respond because I'm

1579
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: creeped out. And then he tells me that having all

1580
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: boys is a blessing, but the problem is they've all

1581
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: ended up like him, they don't respect women. And then

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Speaker 1: he proceeded to tell me, conceivement by conceivement, what happened

1583
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Speaker 1: out loud.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the faces of the other people. I'm like,

1585
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: this is bizarro world.

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01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: And five of those pregnancies happened because a woman laced

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Speaker 1: his weed. I'm just like, I need to kind of

1588
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: like I need to cycle off of this conversation. I

1589
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: never said a word, but I did want to stand

1590
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: up and be like, you really hit the skins for

1591
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: the hell of it, right, just for the yelevant for

1592
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: the smell of it. Do you think he was telling

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01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: the truth.

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01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: He didn't look like a crazy person either. He looked

1595
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: like a regular guy, like this was insane.

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Speaker 4: I've had many encounters on the subway like from pretty

1597
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 4: crazy people, but that takes the cake.

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01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's always weird when you don't know

1599
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: if they're crazy like they like for.

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Speaker 4: All your hell, you know, he's telling you the truth.

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01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

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01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: No, maybe he needed an air a shoulder, maybe he

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: needed a tip, you know, and I would have I

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01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: would have. Okay, we got the Yeah, you're right, let's

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Speaker 1: end the show. Let's end the show here, all right?

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01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: Follow us please on our social media channels. There's our

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat on Instagram? Please subscribe. Luke Thomas will be

1609
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: back so hopefully he gets out of jail this week.

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01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: Chuck Minnenhall, we can check out your work at the Athletic. Yeah,

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01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: you've got a pretty damn good podcast. Do you want

1612
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: to tell the people about it?

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Speaker 4: every Monday and Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it right there. Thank everybody

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: for checking us out, staying with us. Look we're the

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Speaker 2: real right. We bring it, we bring it.

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Speaker 1: We don't pull any of those punches. Okay, we are

1621
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: bringing it. We are getting into your ear holes are

1622
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: we are changing lives. We are brainwashing you MK ultra style,

1623
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Speaker 1: So continue to come back for more. We want to

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Speaker 1: take this thing to the top.

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Speaker 2: Brother.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I bet you never knew, but now you know.

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01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: We're the undisputed kings of this combat disco. For Chuck

1628
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: Minden Hall, you can't follow that. You cannot follow that.

1629
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: For Chuck Minden Hall, at your boy, BC, we're out

1630
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: of here.

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01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 4: Get some rest, friend.

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01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: Oh may your host thee loy all that good stuff.

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01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 4: I'm out. I'm out. That's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm done. Y