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Speaker 2: get to it. Today's episode is featuring Jody Sweeten and

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Speaker 2: Celia by Are. I've never thought I'd say this podcast.

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Speaker 3: Much done, Gill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah night one night anymore than one night?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and

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Speaker 1: I'm Nayla. Happy Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Hope you guys are having a good week. It's hot

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Speaker 3: as fu in the valley. Oh my god, it's bad.

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Speaker 3: That makes me this quickly, I know.

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Speaker 6: And the air conditioning I swear it works, but it

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Speaker 3: In this what was it like five degrees today? It

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Speaker 3: feels like it's gonna be How was your week? It

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Speaker 3: was good. It was good. Went to the beach, hung

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Speaker 3: out the kids. We had an epic beach day. We

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Speaker 3: I was really proud of that. Yeah we did. You

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Speaker 3: really catered. I slept all of our ship everywhere. Thank god.

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Speaker 3: My Sebastian was there.

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Speaker 6: He did not know he was getting himself into when

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Speaker 6: he said when he was like, I'll come to the beach,

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Speaker 6: I was like, perfect, right, You're going to carry everything?

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Speaker 3: And he he was. He was so stressed. He was like,

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Speaker 3: and we used to like a cabana. It was like,

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Speaker 3: never No, he's not used to a cabana. He he

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Speaker 3: was committed to that. Yeah he was. He was stressing.

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Speaker 3: He was stressing.

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Speaker 6: So I was like, you need to go sit and smoke,

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Speaker 3: But i't that was great report on Yeah neither.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So we have special guests here today, our friends,

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Speaker 7: homies podcasters.

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Speaker 3: Yes. I never thought i'd say this. Yes, yes, it's

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Speaker 3: Jody and Celia.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're here and in all of our glory, which

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Speaker 8: I forgot the.

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Speaker 3: Videotape this one. So it's this is fine. Lashes are popping.

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Speaker 1: They need to get there there there all the way

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Speaker 3: I do see.

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Speaker 6: I'm like when I was getting lashes, I like and

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Speaker 3: And they look like yours. They don't say anything to

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Speaker 8: No, they're happy. Well, no, they gave me ship about

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Speaker 3: Were like, oh, your lashes. At first, they.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to read my face that I did.

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Speaker 8: I basically I it was an asshole, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: Me, pay for them.

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Speaker 8: Well, we're on our last yeason right now and they're

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Speaker 9: She did make them pay for it, just with her attitude.

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Speaker 8: Okay, but I'm not even like that unless I'm in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the minivan. Nonetheless, she'll take you down. Do

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Speaker 3: you have a minivan? I do have a minivan.

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Speaker 8: I have a minivan and a and my Mercedes.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I have my My My Mercedes was my treat

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Speaker 8: So this was this was a while coming, and I

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Speaker 3: Lease a new car. So I got that one and then.

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Speaker 8: But I do also own the Chrysler Minivan, which I

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Speaker 3: She drives it like a motherfucker I do.

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Speaker 8: I've actually gotten compliments at the school for how I

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Speaker 3: My dad's and the parking.

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Speaker 8: Monitor and it was like, you swing that minivan around impressively.

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Speaker 8: Well, actually I was the super lucky that I was

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Speaker 8: fortunate to get the minivan. I did like this commercial

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Speaker 8: thing for Chrysler, and they gave me the fan.

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Speaker 3: For a year. Oh wow, yeah for free.

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Speaker 10: I love that listening. I would totally do that for

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Speaker 3: We've taken it on road trips. We drove that.

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Speaker 8: Think the mammoths of the kids, Like everybody's got a

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Speaker 3: The other one can be in the middle.

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Speaker 10: When they don't go to each other kids, the older

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Speaker 3: Right they watch.

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Speaker 8: And we've had we Celia and I have had many

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Speaker 3: Tell our listeners college your kids are yeah, oh yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: you want to go first? Yeah. I have two daughters,

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Speaker 3: Zoe who is eleven years old.

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Speaker 8: And starting middle school. And I have Beatrix, who is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 9: I have Harper who is twelve.

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Speaker 10: She'll be thirteen in October. Hoof is it fucking showing?

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Speaker 3: Uh? And then I've got Luna, like you but I

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Speaker 3: been different. Yeah, Luna is very popular. It's very popular popular.

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Speaker 3: Well it's yeah, exactly, you're late to the Luna plant

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Speaker 3: even other later you know what it's because John, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and Luna is older than that. Luna. Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 10: Even Beatrix is like a very yeah, that one hasn't

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Speaker 10: Neil Patrick Harris named his kid Herper, and then it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah right, I'm obsessed with his entire Instagram And as

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Speaker 3: They don't have anything just because.

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Speaker 10: They're gay, because I with that help, because I'm single

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Speaker 10: right now, that'll make me better parent. Their kids always

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Speaker 10: look so cute, pretty and put together, and I'm that

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Speaker 8: Yeah, my kids would look outstanding too if I didn't

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Speaker 1: You you have a boyfriend, I do you?

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Speaker 3: Are you dating? Now? Well, that's not.

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Speaker 10: I'm on I'm on a dating app. I'm on Tinder,

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Speaker 3: No, like guys that have dick pics as their profile. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't even say that. Yes, oh, I have a collection.

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Speaker 3: I'll send them to you later.

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Speaker 8: Oh she sends them to me like this is just

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Speaker 8: my entertainer.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well, at Thanksgiving, my mom actually my friends were bitching

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Speaker 8: about Tinder about like what's out there, and my mom.

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Speaker 3: Was like, that can't be really what's out there?

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Speaker 8: So they handed over their phones to my mom on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 8: the profiles, and then my mom didn't know how it worked,

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Speaker 8: and so she was swiping on everybody.

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Speaker 3: But I'm swiping right on everybody.

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Speaker 10: Oh no, not me and Emma. We matched with a

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Speaker 10: bunch of people we did not want to match with.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I was like, I'm just getting to the

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Speaker 8: next picture, and I was like, I think I don't

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Speaker 8: know how to work it either, because I've never done.

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Speaker 3: On the wrong mom.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I could have easily have done that too.

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Speaker 10: The funniest part with your mom though, she was like

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Speaker 10: I said something like I'm I was like, I'm going

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Speaker 10: you're being too hard on yourself.

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Speaker 3: No you're not. And then she was like, here's the thing,

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Speaker 3: I don't worry.

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Speaker 10: I don't worry about Emma as much because she goes

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Speaker 3: Do they know you love him? Absolutely?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they like, you know, he comes now and stays

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Speaker 12: Flowers, yeah, yeah, send their hair, tell me right on right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 9: I don't want them to get hurt.

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Speaker 10: And they I was dating someone, as she knows, like

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Speaker 9: My phone and like saw that we were like she.

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Speaker 3: Just knew something was up.

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Speaker 10: She saw she's broken my take it all up in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, let me.

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Speaker 3: My baby daddy?

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Speaker 8: Because sometimes they're like can I plan your phone? You're like, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 3: I literally didn't like come up on something recently. I

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Speaker 3: I just don't really take it. She doesn't. You don't

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Speaker 10: Ever so often I'll just send a picture of my

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Speaker 3: Just because.

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Speaker 10: And so he'll joke and post things girlfriend, but I

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Speaker 3: Like, I love you. Yeah, my friends like that. We

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Speaker 3: Why only send them to you?

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Speaker 8: No no, no, but you screenshot it whatever it was, You

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Speaker 10: Right, it wasn't him, but that's what it was. Was

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Speaker 8: I think you can.

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Speaker 8: Anybody out there has ever taken an X ray that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, doctors had let us nurse I could send them.

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Speaker 9: I was like, I'm worried about the vagina. He's going

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Speaker 3: I never come on, you haven't made it, not in

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Speaker 3: I am for a challenge.

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Speaker 6: and his frank was Frankly Frank. It was crazy. How

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00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 6: old were you? I was in college. But I just

444
00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,880
Speaker 6: remember looking in the mirror and I was like like, yeah.

445
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 3: We tried. There's no everyone has that.

446
00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 10: Everyone has the story of we're just instead of like

447
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,239
Speaker 10: a baby arm, that's what it looks like.

448
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,159
Speaker 3: That's Gary track, of course.

449
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 9: God, you two eyes are the worst.

450
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,920
Speaker 3: No really does kill the fun.

451
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:23,399
Speaker 9: It's yeahs killed.

452
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:24,720
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

453
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 10: I had to say to my younger daughter this morning

454
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 10: because she was like, Mom, I'm out of underpants, probably

455
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,440
Speaker 10: because they were all in the laundry that she didn't.

456
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 3: Right, because right because they were She.

457
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 10: Goes, she goes, I'm wearing a pair of bikini bottoms

458
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 10: to school, and set I was like, the fuck you are,

459
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 10: so you've got a bunch of underpants, I'm gonna find

460
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 10: you a pair, And also like, do you just want.

461
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 3: A yeast infection?

462
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 10: Like you you walk around all day in the sweaty

463
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 10: bikini bottom at school?

464
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 9: The hell.

465
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,400
Speaker 3: I was like, like, it's the same thing, mom, Yeah,

466
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 3: it's really not. I'm pretty sure I've done that, so

467
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 3: that's fine.

468
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 9: I'm just on her side.

469
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 10: I'm sure I have to, but I'm not gonna tell

470
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 10: her that, right, tell her a lot of things that

471
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,439
Speaker 10: I tell them they can't just wear. I put her

472
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 10: in a pair of exercise shorts that were breathaball and said, here,

473
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 10: just worthyse you want.

474
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 3: You'll find anywhere. You didn't find anything, No, and she

475
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 3: was wearing to dressed. I said, just wear the because

476
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 3: they're all in the laundry right now.

477
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, fucking assholes, tell you because you have girls?

478
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 1: What about on the other side, have your have your

479
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 1: baby daddies dated or remarried? And like you have to

480
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 1: deal with like the girls dealing with those women.

481
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: Mine is is recently engaged, okay, and do the girls

482
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 3: like him, I mean her, or like, what's the deal?

483
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 9: I really hope they don't listen to this.

484
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 3: They're not the biggest fan. I think the I think

485
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 3: that the little one likes her more than she.

486
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 10: Lets on a lot of the time. It's hard because

487
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 10: I have conversations with them. I'm like, you don't have

488
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 10: to do this for me, like I don't.

489
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 3: If he's happy, I'm happy, that's great.

490
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 10: Like, and I was with my ex husband for twenty

491
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 10: years and so.

492
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 3: Like, I you know, I love you.

493
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 10: Guys been off now five we've been divorced for about

494
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 10: five or four maybe it's four. And yeah, which, by

495
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 10: the way, he knew the guy that I was dating,

496
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 10: so that was super awkward. And I don't think they're

497
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 10: friends anymore either, which is great. So we're all everything

498
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 10: flew up.

499
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 3: It was very awesome. But yeah, they bitch about her

500
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: a lot.

501
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 10: I can't decide if I think that's because they think

502
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 10: they're being loyal to me, and so I have a

503
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 10: lot of talks to them because I'm like, you know,

504
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 10: if you think you're making me feel better.

505
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 9: By putting her down.

506
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 3: You're not.

507
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 10: You actually make me feel worse because I want you

508
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 10: to be happy when you're with them. And I think

509
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 10: she tries her best, and god knows, I do not

510
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 10: envy that position like at all.

511
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 3: And I have two step.

512
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 10: Parents who I really I mean, I'm close with my stepmother.

513
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: I think she's great.

514
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 9: She never tried to mom me.

515
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 3: She was just my friend, a dugger.

516
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 10: My stepdad raised me more than my dad did, and

517
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 10: I always really loved him and he was great, So

518
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 10: I don't really have a problem with that. And honestly,

519
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 10: my mom like really hated my father and really hated

520
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 10: my stepmother and pitted us against them all the time,

521
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 10: and that was that is a therapist, the most damaging

522
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 10: thing you can do to a child.

523
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 8: And he actually asked me last night, so be got

524
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 8: a magic eight ball for herthday, So that's now making

525
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 8: all of her important life decisions.

526
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: Right, which I can't. I can't say that.

527
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 8: I haven't that much of my twenties wasn't spent basically

528
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 8: shaking the magic eight ball and going like now what?

529
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 8: So anyway, she had it last night determining I meant

530
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 8: it exactly how it sounded, so it was a double

531
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 8: on tandre there.

532
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyway, she was sitting there.

533
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 8: Last night making you know, major life decisions by the

534
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 8: magic eight ball, mainly would she shower or go brush

535
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 8: her teeth?

536
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: And it's kept saying it is certainly not so or whatever.

537
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 8: Great anyway, but she asked, she was like, I'm going

538
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 8: to ask if you and miss Galley are gonna get married,

539
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 8: because that's.

540
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: What she calls him. His name is Miscal and she

541
00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 3: was I'm gonna ask. I was like, wait, yeah, m

542
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 3: e s c a.

543
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, Mescalito is from It's a character in a book

544
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 8: that his mom really loves. Anyways, So yeah, so anyway,

545
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 8: so she was like, I'm gonna see if you know

546
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 8: you and miss Sally are gonna get married. It's like okay, fine,

547
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 8: So she shook it and it said like, uh it is,

548
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 8: you know, decidedly so.

549
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 3: And she was so excited.

550
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 8: She like she really really likes that means it's true.

551
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: But she was like, oh my god.

552
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 8: But she they both asked like are you going to

553
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 8: get you know, you guys gonna get married, But I'm

554
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 8: like I don't know.

555
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: I'm like waiting like I don't know, I don't know.

556
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 8: I'm not against the idea, like, but I'm with like

557
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 8: you know, and I mean to be honest, like I'm

558
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 8: probably more for it.

559
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely I want to, but I don't you know,

560
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: I haven't been married before.

561
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 9: Yes, several times?

562
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: How many times? Three?

563
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

564
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: Wait? Wait wait right? I mean they're like a modern day,

565
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 3: wasn't it.

566
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 10: That's one other time you're like, kim k sorry, I'm sorry,

567
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 10: I'm sorry.

568
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm done now, that's okay. No, no, no, it's not

569
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: it's fine, it's fine.

570
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 8: No, I don't I don't feel And the thing is,

571
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 8: I don't even I do.

572
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: I am all. I am like a big wedding for

573
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: every single one. No, no, I've had three different weddings.

574
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: The next will be destination.

575
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 10: No.

576
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 8: But anyway, so she got very excited about that, and

577
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 8: she asked, she was like, is my daddy gonna get married?

578
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: And she was like, I really hope so, and it

579
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: said like yes. She was so happy about that.

580
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 8: Too, And I told her, I was like, I hope

581
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 8: your daddy finds somebody that he really likes, because I

582
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 8: don't think I don't know that he's dated anyone. I

583
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 8: don't ask because it's none of my business, you know,

584
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 8: I know he asks her a lot, and I figure

585
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 8: about yeah, and I yeah, this is the youngest, so

586
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 8: you know, and like at the end of I'm like,

587
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 8: that's honestly, really all I want, Like I want them

588
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 8: to have girlfriends or wives or whatever they want. Like

589
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 8: I want them to be happy. I really, I really do.

590
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 8: And I want like for the kids. And I told her,

591
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 8: I said great, I said that many more people to

592
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 8: love you, just like exactly.

593
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 3: Like and that's what I try more, right, more people

594
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 3: to love you.

595
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 10: Like you know, it's well, my kids once the once

596
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 10: their dad proposed and they knew they were getting a stepmom,

597
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 10: and then he told them, you know, when they were

598
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 10: getting married and where whatever. Right away, my kids were like,

599
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 10: are you gonna came? And I was like, no, nobody

600
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 10: wants me there. I don't want to be there. And

601
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 10: they were like, but there many times when you.

602
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: Guys are all together. I was like, you that the

603
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 3: last thing that this new bride.

604
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 10: Needs who's also been divorced once before is to have

605
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 10: the ex wife show up Like why is like yeah,

606
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 10: hi like and they were like, but we don't want

607
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 10: to go if you're not gonna trust me.

608
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 8: It's awkward enough when you get married to have all

609
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 8: of everyone there, right, Well, that was all.

610
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 10: Other things, and they were like, well, are you ever

611
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 10: going to be in the same place with all of

612
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 10: our family, like meeting their grandparents everybody else. I said, yes,

613
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 10: when it's neutral ground, I will be still speak to them,

614
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 10: but I will be in the same room as you guys.

615
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: I said, but that's not neutral ground.

616
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 10: And I'm not that right, it's not I'm walking like

617
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 10: wearing red being like right, but right, yeah, I mean

618
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 10: it's that's not that's not good, but.

619
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: But it is.

620
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 8: I think it's I think it is hard though, like

621
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 8: when you have kids and like introducing them to new.

622
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: People and you know, and like I've you know, I

623
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: like I said, I was engaged.

624
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 8: I had an engagement that broke off and whatever, and

625
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 8: it was a whole thing. And my kids didn't always

626
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 8: love him very much and ye, but you know, but

627
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 8: there were times that they did, and you know, and

628
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 8: so it's always it is always hard to to balance

629
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 8: out their opinions of it, like just because something didn't

630
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 8: work out, like you know, whatever it's and the thing

631
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 8: between going back and forth with both parents and being like,

632
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 8: you don't have to hate the other person just because

633
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 8: I do, and because I think sometimes like you know,

634
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 8: I think sometimes my younger one feels like that because I,

635
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 8: you know, I don't.

636
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: Think her dad, I don't. I don't know anyway, you

637
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: know what. Trying to be very diplomatic. It was really sad.

638
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 10: Was was after the relationship I had, you know, after

639
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 10: my marriage ended, that my.

640
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: Kids took it really personally because.

641
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 10: He had been my friend for so long, and especially

642
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 10: again the older one like really had a relationship with

643
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 10: him before, like she felt our connection with him, and

644
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 10: so once we broke up and then subsequently just stopped

645
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 10: talking like we had a you know, knock down boat

646
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 10: fight and was over.

647
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 9: We hadn't spoken in a.

648
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 3: Year and a half.

649
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 10: Like she took it so unbelievably personally that it was

650
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 10: like some like she just really hurts her. And then

651
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 10: I was going, I think, you know this, I was

652
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 10: going through her stuff about like six months ago, and

653
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 10: I found a journal that she was keeping to him.

654
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 10: Oh no, like writing him how much she missed him

655
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 10: and loved him, and how like she understood that he'd

656
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 10: like made a mistake breaking up with me, and that

657
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 10: you know, it was you know, something that he was

658
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 10: going to come back and like all this stuff, and

659
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 10: she to this day it's been almost I mean like right,

660
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 10: it's been a year and a half, I almost since

661
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 10: we've even spoken, and over two years since we broke up,

662
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 10: and she believes without a doubt that like, where, yeah,

663
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 10: it's gonna come back around. He's going to come back

664
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 10: around somehow, this is gonna work out. And it's so

665
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 10: hard to like sit down and have a conversation where

666
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 10: I'm like, sometimes what you want to have happened doesn't.

667
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: Happen and it had nothing to do with you.

668
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 10: It wasn't And she's like, well maybe if you didn't

669
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 10: have kids, you.

670
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 3: Know, and I'm like, it was not. So she thinks

671
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: that they're the problem. Yeah, yeah, she thinks they're the problems.

672
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 10: She did something you know that they I was weighed

673
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 10: more down because of them, maybe, Like it's like it

674
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 10: was the most It's really why I stopped dating because

675
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 10: I never would have introduced her to you know, them,

676
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 10: to him really anyway. And it took a couple months

677
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 10: for them to even know that it was a thing.

678
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 10: But uh, just watching how it devastated they were when.

679
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: He was gone. And I remember that as.

680
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 10: A kid whose mom, you know, dated a lot before

681
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 10: she got married, that we would get really attached to

682
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 10: these boyfriends that she would bring into our life and

683
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 10: then they break up with.

684
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: Her, and that was that.

685
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 8: It is, I mean, it is it is hard, Like

686
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 8: I know, you know, when I broke up with my

687
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 8: my most recent ex and it ended very poorly and

688
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 8: very dramatically, and that you know, the kids it wasn't

689
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 8: like they could say goodbye or.

690
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: Ever talk to him again.

691
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know, it is hard because it's like

692
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 8: this was somebody you know, like yeah, he you know,

693
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 8: had faults and whatever and all this stuff, but like

694
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 8: at the state at the end of the day, like

695
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 8: my kids didn't end, you know. And so it still

696
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 8: is even though maybe they weren't his biggest thing.

697
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 6: I didn't even probably know all his faults, so they

698
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 6: they knew, right, and my older one knew more of them.

699
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: She you know what I mean. She she's a little

700
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: more aware. But it's still you do You're like you feel.

701
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 8: Bad when you just suddenly have to remove somebody from

702
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 8: their lives, and it is the thing where you like,

703
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 8: oh my god, am I fucking everything up? Is this

704
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 8: like the worst thing that's ever had?

705
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 10: Like?

706
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: Am I? You know? Am I?

707
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 8: Am I screwing it all up because I'm being selfish

708
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 8: and I want her relationship or whatever.

709
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 10: Well that's how I felt though when I left my

710
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 10: when I left my husband, honestly, like I was like,

711
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 10: am I the worst parent ever? Am I ruining my

712
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 10: kids lives? But I think every feels like that, you.

713
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 9: Know, but it wasn't working.

714
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: And I listen, I work with clients all the time.

715
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 10: It's like, actually, one of my my biggest clients, I think,

716
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 10: you know, our biggest like category of clients is women

717
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 10: getting out of bad relationships.

718
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 9: Comes me, usually moms.

719
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 10: And you know, I'm a friend of mine said it's

720
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 10: me when I was getting divorced, And I say it's

721
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 10: everyone else. Like it's a contract, any other contract that

722
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 10: you enter into in your life, when you lease a car,

723
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 10: when you buy a house. You know, if you go

724
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 10: get a bank account, Like if you're not happy in

725
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 10: that contract, no one's like, oh, just ride it out

726
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 10: with the car that's not working. Oh your roof is leaking. No, no, no,

727
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 10: you signed a mortgage, you got to stay in that house.

728
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 10: They're like, get out and do something better for yourself.

729
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 10: And for some reason in marriages, people are like, but

730
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 10: you make it right, you have kids, kid And I

731
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 10: was like, but I but I had to get out

732
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 10: of that marriage for myself, for their sakes, Like it

733
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 10: was not a healthy, good situation.

734
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: So it is hard.

735
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 10: But to your point about like not being able to

736
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 10: say goodbye, that was like their issue with the ex.

737
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 10: You know, at least with their dad they can see,

738
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 10: but you know, him just him breaking up with me,

739
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 10: and he did, and you know badly, Like it was

740
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 10: you know a lot for them to take in.

741
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: Well, but maybe he's breaking up with you because of us, right,

742
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: And you know I was like, I assure you it

743
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: was all me. I remember.

744
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 8: I mean when my boyfriend and I first started dating,

745
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 8: like you know, and I would have these meltdowns and

746
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 8: he's so wonderful and so patient and kind and gentle

747
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 8: with me because I would just start tripping out in

748
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 8: my head and being like this isn't and.

749
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: Like not going what's going there?

750
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 8: And nothing's happened, like nothing was happening, and if anything,

751
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 8: he was like being wonderful and like I love you

752
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 8: and I'm like so excited for our future and this

753
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 8: and that, and I'm like no, no, and so like,

754
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 8: and I remember I was like, you know what I mean,

755
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 8: like I'm.

756
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: Crying this whole thing.

757
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 8: I was like, you know, I'm just worried, like I

758
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 8: have kids and it's it's a lot, like I'm a

759
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 8: single mom and and he was like nay, He's like,

760
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 8: I've known you for years. He's like, part of the

761
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 8: reason that I love you is because you're a mom.

762
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 8: He's like, he goes, You're one of the biggest fighters

763
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 8: I know because of your kids. He's like, and I

764
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 8: it's a package deal, Like this is I get that.

765
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 8: I wouldn't have gone into this thinking like, oh I

766
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 8: really love her, but ah, the fact that she has

767
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 8: kids instead of it. He's like, no, I I love that,

768
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 8: Like that's actually something about you that I love. It's

769
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 8: not it's not a detriment. It's actually a plus. And

770
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, yeah, I'm not. And it was

771
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 8: the thing was like, not like I ever. I mean obviously,

772
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 8: like my kids are my priority and they come first.

773
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 8: It was just like, do how does this all work?

774
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 8: How does this you know?

775
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: And I think especially when you date someone who doesn't

776
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: have kids, even being around like women that don't have

777
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: kids are in settings.

778
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: Right, you're constantly because kids are fucking annoying. Let's be real, right, Yeah,

779
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: it's right. Are they annoying? Not touching him?

780
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 8: Well, he would come to my house, right, he would

781
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 8: come to my house, and I was like a.

782
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: Lot person and he right, and they put on shows

783
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: and the whole thing. And he's like, I love it.

784
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 8: And he's like, I have three nephews that are exactly

785
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 8: your kid's age, Like I love them. I love being

786
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 8: around kids. They're all insane. My brother threw threw a

787
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 8: fork at me and it's stuck in my calf once,

788
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 8: Like that's.

789
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: Just what kids do. It's okay, don't He's like, I

790
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: raised the four gud kid Like, yeah, it doesn't care.

791
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: I will say.

792
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 8: It was like I can sit on my phone while

793
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 8: they're having their circus and it's fine.

794
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: One of the funniest things, but it is.

795
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 8: It's like a self like at thing, like I have

796
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 8: to keep the kids happy, and I have to keep

797
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 8: you happy, and I have to keep everyone is gonna be.

798
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: Care and they usually look to you anyway.

799
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 8: One of the funniest and meanwhile you're losing your fucking

800
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 8: mind as you're trying to make everyone happy.

801
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

802
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 10: One of the funniest things that Harper ever did was

803
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 10: when the very first time that we were all in

804
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 10: the same place, me and the kids and him and

805
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 10: he you know, had come over and she they were

806
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 10: like getting ready for bed or whatever, and all of

807
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 10: a sudden, she just like looks at him and she's like,

808
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 10: I just want to know something, and he was like yeah,

809
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 10: And she's like, are you sleeping over tonight? And he

810
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 10: just was like uh. And she was like, and are

811
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 10: you sleeping in my mom's room? And oh yeah, and

812
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 10: he was. He was just got like totally like had

813
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 10: a moment and like he just looks at me and

814
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 10: like he was like, I mean and I'm like looking

815
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 10: at him, like just answer, and he's like, I mean, yeah,

816
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 10: I mean maybe I think so, I don't know, is

817
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 10: that okay? And I was like, first rule of parents,

818
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 10: don't ask the kid permission to like just be like

819
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 10: ye huh, not that I expect you to parent, but

820
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 10: like just be like yes, you know.

821
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: And she was like, oh, I don't care.

822
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 10: I was just wondering and like walked away like she

823
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 10: didn't give a ship, but it was so funny to

824
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 10: see that happen where I'm like, Oops, didn't factor that.

825
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: And no, I think I think yeah, even though sometimes

826
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: there's obviously like downs to the dating. Just like ship,

827
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: there's downs to the dating with us. You gotta get

828
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: rid of people, you gotta love them life.

829
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you guys date? That's what I was gonna ask.

830
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I think I think overall though,

831
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: I think I think we're doing less. I think we're

832
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: doing less damage more good than damage, I think, especially

833
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: if we all have daughters. I think, you know, that's

834
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: the journal thing. It was like the sad the hardest

835
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard, and but honestly, I don't think

836
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: that should prevent you from ever dating in the future because.

837
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 8: You're I think the kids need to understand that, like

838
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 8: the relationships change things like Disney.

839
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: You know we're not gonna make no dating has happened,

840
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: and then Prince Charming comes with because you're sleep and everything.

841
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 8: You know what we're like real, and then we would

842
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 8: be doing our kids a big disservice.

843
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: Women to y the service, letting them allowing them to

844
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: think that that is what it is it's not.

845
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: And that's why I try.

846
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously our kids are four, but I try

847
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: to be really honest and I try to be like

848
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, oh.

849
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 3: They saw me cry like I am really sad.

850
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 9: I mean I was, I was. I was heartbroken.

851
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: My heart is broken. I did, Yeah, I did. My

852
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 3: feelings are hurt.

853
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: I think those things are okay to say because and

854
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: then you guess what, and then you guys your ship

855
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: and you keep it fucking pushing because that's what we do,

856
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: I think.

857
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: And my kids have seen that, or you know, because

858
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 3: my kids have seen.

859
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 8: Like me get divorced or me leave a relationship or whatever,

860
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 8: and there is that thing of like, wow, I really

861
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 8: like this is this the example I'm setting? I'm like, no,

862
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 8: you know what it is the example I'm setting. The

863
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 8: example I'm setting is I don't stay. I'm not gonna

864
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 8: stay in something where I'm not happy and fulfilled and

865
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 8: with a partner. So this is just not you know what,

866
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 8: wasn't working. So you know what, mom is gonna go

867
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 8: off and you and I tell them all the time,

868
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 8: I go, you know what, moms fuck things up. I

869
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 8: fuck things up all the time. I make a bunch

870
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 8: of mistakes. I'm just doing my best, and I tell

871
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 8: them that, I go, yeah, I fucked up, I blew

872
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 8: it or this didn't work out or whatever, but like,

873
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 8: you're gonna do these same things too. You're gonna make

874
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 8: mistakes too, and I hope that you learn from them

875
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 8: and like do a little better next time, and you

876
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 8: might fuck it up.

877
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: Again, that's okay.

878
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 8: Well, I think it's actually more important for our daughters

879
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 8: to see that, to see us make mistakes and keep

880
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 8: going and own them than to either stay in something

881
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 8: where we're not happy or pretend that we don't or

882
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 8: deny a piece of ourselves and be like, oh, well,

883
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 8: I'm not going to have a relationship because I don't

884
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 8: want you to do well. No, because I don't want

885
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 8: my kids also to think that I'm putting all of

886
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 8: my emotional right.

887
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 10: Yes, and I do tell them that too, like like

888
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 10: I love you, but it needs something too, listen. I

889
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm sure if I met the right person,

890
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 10: and I haven't, and that I'll go into our you know,

891
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 10: when we were talking about our bad choices, I have

892
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 10: some of them there, But I will also say I

893
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 10: used not you know, with leaving my marriage. I think

894
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 10: that was my you know thing for them, I had

895
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 10: to get out and this is a strong.

896
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 3: Thing with him.

897
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 10: What I think I've been able to convey to them,

898
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 10: and honestly, I did it as I learned it myself,

899
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 10: was that just because someone hurts you deeply, which he did,

900
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 10: doesn't mean that you don't get to love them anymore.

901
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: I I love him unconditionally. I told him that the

902
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 3: last time we ever spoke.

903
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 9: I meant it. I'm not angry at him.

904
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 10: If just because someone breaks your heart doesn't mean that

905
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 10: you have to turn into, you know, a bitter person

906
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 10: and hate them because you didn't get what you wanted.

907
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 10: I actually love him, and I don't expect her to

908
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 10: hate him because I do, or anything like that. Like

909
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 10: I'm not pine away for him. I wish him nothing

910
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 10: but the best. I had to learn forgiveness in myself

911
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 10: to let that go. And you know, understand that if

912
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 10: I actually really love him, then what I really want

913
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 10: is for him to be happy, And if he's not

914
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 10: happy with me, then I want him to be happy

915
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 10: with somebody else. And that's a lesson. I didn't ever

916
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 10: think of giving my kids until that. So I look

917
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 10: at that you know a way.

918
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

919
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 6: So since you guys we all have girls, and your

920
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 6: girls are a bit older than ours, so have you guys.

921
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 6: Just I just was thinking about this because because your

922
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 6: daughter is about to be thirteen, and how did your

923
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 6: oldest eleven?

924
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: Eleven? Okay, but she's know, I know, and I think

925
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: about me terrifyingly developing.

926
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 6: I think about me at eleven too. I started my

927
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 6: period of eleven. Yeah, that was very much she's got.

928
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: And I was already I.

929
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 6: Was interested in like sex or like making out something.

930
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I watched Euphoria.

931
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 6: I've been watched it triggered I was like, fuck, yeah,

932
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 6: I'm like, is this what's happening in school?

933
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I know when I was in high school,

934
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: shit was going down.

935
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 8: Like yeah, I watched I mean, for me, I watched it,

936
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 8: and a lot of it was like I could watch

937
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 8: about two episodes at a time just because it was

938
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 8: so vivid and real for me as far as a

939
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 8: lot of my experience in high school, college in my

940
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 8: twenties of what that experience, you know, minus the cell

941
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 8: phone cameras and all of that nonsense, but basically.

942
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 11: The same behavior of right, right, But it was really

943
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 11: because but still it was you know a lot exactly,

944
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 11: but watching it and being like, yeah, this is what happens,

945
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 11: this is this is actually pretty true.

946
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 6: Like how do you how so when they go into

947
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 6: high school or like confronted with drugs and because of

948
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 6: your experience battling addiction, Like, how.

949
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: Do you talk to them about that?

950
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 10: Do you?

951
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 6: I mean, how do you plan on talking? I mean

952
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 6: before we recorded, you mentioned that you have a book

953
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 6: and like, yeah, one day they'll read it.

954
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean they've My younger one apparently had googled

955
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 8: me while I was out of town. At one point,

956
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 8: my kid at school somehow googled me or whatever and

957
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 8: then was like talking about and then decided to tell

958
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 8: this was here's a great example and talk about like

959
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 8: that mom shaming stuff. She was like, my mommy has

960
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 8: a lot of boyfriends.

961
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 3: And she told her whole class, she told her little class.

962
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 8: Then of course her dad finds this out, and it's like,

963
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 8: I don't know why she's saying.

964
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, huh, thank you, thank you. Right, I'm like, yeah,

965
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: because you know I had a lot, right, I'm like, oh.

966
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 9: It's because I do I have.

967
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 8: I'm like because I'm just getting all the dick and

968
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 8: I'm telling I'm telling my kid about it all the time, right,

969
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 8: and like, I don't know why she said that. I'm

970
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 8: like because really after her dad, I had one boyfriend

971
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 8: and now a second boyfriend and that's been six years, right,

972
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 8: So like also the fact that he's like, you're fucking everyone,

973
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 8: I'm like, no.

974
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 3: No, be taking an eleven year old's advice. No, this

975
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: was the nine year old nine right, right, That's what

976
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: kills me taking mad.

977
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 8: But then I was like, oh my god, because then

978
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 8: it hit me of like, oh my god, my kids

979
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 8: can google your fool me and everything about like my

980
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 8: addiction and my book and everything I've talked about, which

981
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 8: I'm not ashamed of. I'm very proud of where I

982
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 8: am today, but it's i mean not something that I

983
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 8: feel like they really need to know.

984
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: And googled. What did she find?

985
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 8: Well, she couldn't find much because it was at the

986
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 8: school computer lab. So it was just like, you know,

987
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 8: my mom's on full house and you know my that she.

988
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 3: I was was engaged and broke it off and whatever.

989
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 8: Nothing terrible. But I also am pretty open. I mean,

990
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 8: my kids know that I'm sober. They know I go

991
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 8: to you know that I I like, go and write

992
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 8: recovery is important and all that stuff, but I don't.

993
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 8: I mean, I haven't had the full on conversation with

994
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 8: them yet, but I feel like now that my older

995
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 8: one is starting middle school, it's definitely gonna be the like,

996
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 8: look the been there well and.

997
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: She but she does though I tell her all the time,

998
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: I go, look, there's I go.

999
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 8: Year. There's nothing that you're gonna tell me that I

1000
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 8: haven't done that's gonna surprise me.

1001
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: Literally nothing.

1002
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 8: So don't think you're ever gonna shock me or that

1003
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be like I was like, if you can

1004
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 8: think about it, I've probably done it at least once

1005
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 8: and I and I said, and I'm really I said,

1006
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 8: I've learned some really hard, fucked up lessons.

1007
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: And I told her that.

1008
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 8: I was like, I've learned some really hard, painful lessons, uh,

1009
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 8: that I would love for you not to learn. I said,

1010
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 8: but I also know that my mom told me a

1011
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 8: lot of things that she tried to you know, impart

1012
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 8: her wisdom on me, and I didn't learn the lesson

1013
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 8: until I learned it myself. I said, So I also

1014
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 8: know you're going to have to do that too, and

1015
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 8: it's okay, Like it's okay, why am.

1016
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: I so sweating? Oh my god? Here, and I'm also

1017
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: just I sweat now that's what I do.

1018
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 9: I'm sorry.

1019
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: Actually also speaking here, I want to open this door.

1020
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 3: It's getting hotter by this second.

1021
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, but anyway, I yeah, that's sort of.

1022
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean because obviously, okay, we have a whole show

1023
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: called Good Mom's Bad Choices, so there's definitely some ship done.

1024
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: And I mean, like we'm got to talk about doing drugs.

1025
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: We've experimented, and I've done a lot of dumb shit.

1026
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: I got a lot of cars with strangers, right, oh yeah,

1027
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, I've just done a lot, like all

1028
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: the shit your parents, all this shit.

1029
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: That you're not supposed to do. Yeah, you do it.

1030
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: I've done.

1031
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And unluckily, like I'm alive because our parents did

1032
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: some dumb shit too.

1033
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: Well, I'm maybe not to the level I did, but

1034
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 3: my mom.

1035
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 10: Is like I my mom, there's a reason that like

1036
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 10: we are who we are, right See.

1037
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 8: My mom told me the other day at her fortieth

1038
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 8: wedding anniversary, She goes, oh, you saw the version of

1039
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 8: me I wanted you to see oh, she goes you

1040
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 8: saw the mom version. Trust me, I had a life

1041
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 8: before you, right, My mom was seven and I was like,

1042
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 8: she got married, so I like, and I think I.

1043
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: Think emotionally stayed right there at seventeen years.

1044
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 10: I mean, she just never but she didn't do like

1045
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 10: she literally just like never did anything. And because of that,

1046
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 10: everything was like taboo to talk.

1047
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, my parents never Like my mom didn't

1048
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 8: do the things.

1049
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: That I did. For sure, my mom did nothing. But

1050
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: could you talk and my dad didn't either? Could you

1051
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 3: talk to your mom? I could talk to my mom

1052
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 3: about sex.

1053
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 8: My mom was actually really really opened to me about

1054
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 8: with me about sex, got me birth control when I

1055
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 8: started having sex like she was, which I appreciated because

1056
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 8: I was safe because you know what I mean, Like,

1057
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 8: I felt like I could talk to her. She knew

1058
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 8: about it. I was on birth like I was okay

1059
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 8: because of that, which I really appreciated. But then there were,

1060
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 8: of course tons of things that my mom didn't know. Yeah,

1061
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 8: which is and I tell my kids that all the time.

1062
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 8: I go, look, you're gonna do shit that you don't

1063
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 8: want me to know about Google. I get that, and I'm.

1064
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 6: Right, do you think there was anything your mom could

1065
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 6: have done from the path that decided to right. And

1066
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 6: do you think that your addiction or your whatever your

1067
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 6: experimentation did start in high school or.

1068
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 8: Did oh yeah, my no, my addiction starter. I mean

1069
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 8: I was like thirteen the first time I drank. I

1070
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 8: was totally a blackout drinker and that was just what

1071
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 8: I did. And then like through my you know, teenage years,

1072
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 8: and then I got sober the first time in college,

1073
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 8: and then I fucked up again, and then I went

1074
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 8: to treatment, and then like most of my twenties were

1075
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 8: spent fucking up.

1076
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 3: Like it was back and forth a lot. Did you

1077
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: get sober the last time before you had kids or.

1078
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 8: No, I, well, I quit drink sort of. I quit

1079
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 8: drinking and doing like hard drugs and everything when I

1080
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 8: shortly after I had Zoe, I got sober again, and

1081
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 8: then uh stayed sober until after B was born, and

1082
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 8: then was in a car accident and prescribed muscle relaxers

1083
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 8: and that was my last. So my last like harah

1084
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 8: was not It was like two weeks long and it

1085
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 8: was not anything creazy.

1086
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: So I haven't like drank or used drugs in a

1087
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: really long time.

1088
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 6: So never had to like talk to your child about

1089
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 6: I'm just curious. I don't know, like, how do you

1090
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 6: navigate that space if your child is of age and understand? Right, wait, mom,

1091
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 6: he's acting different like you never had that.

1092
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: Right, I never had. No, I never had. My kids

1093
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: have never.

1094
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 8: I have never seen me loaded and and you know,

1095
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 8: God willing, I will never will because I still work

1096
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 8: on my recovery and everything, but you know it, I

1097
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 8: also want them to.

1098
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 3: It's it's it's Lena's dad. She he has to get

1099
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 3: the key to deny and it okay, should I pause?

1100
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: H I told her for him open the door. If

1101
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 3: your dad the key, then I gave to you. Now

1102
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: you're fucking hiding the figure it out.

1103
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 6: Never did I ever, never do I ever tell my

1104
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 6: daughter to open the front door.

1105
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: And hopefully this doesn't become like open the door, they

1106
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: go that face?

1107
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 10: What is.

1108
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

1109
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 9: Because she's four, that's what they do.

1110
00:46:49,840 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 13: And then she just runs away.

1111
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: She's like, no, dad, right, thanks.

1112
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: Literally everything I said not, guy's gonna come give him

1113
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: this ga she runs.

1114
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 3: Okay, now she's back. I'm looking for her dad.

1115
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1116
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 3: No, It's the thing.

1117
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: Even when I think about, like I started drinking when

1118
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: I was eleven.

1119
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, like me and Danielle. Oh try I think, like

1120
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: I look at my daughter now and I'm like, have

1121
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 3: a party in a couple.

1122
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 6: The first time I got wasted wasille was eleven at

1123
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 6: Jim Carrey's house with his daughter.

1124
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 3: Really because I.

1125
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 6: Went to a super rich private school where there was

1126
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 6: just access and parents were leaving their kids alone.

1127
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 3: Right, But I didn't even I don't even think I saw.

1128
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 6: Him, Like I know he was there somewhere, but like

1129
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 6: the whole day we were alone, the night we were alone,

1130
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 6: and I was like, oh, let's try, let's try this,

1131
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 6: let's mix them because we don't.

1132
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: I remember doing that. Yeah, just makes it. Well, even

1133
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: pour a little bit out of out of the bottle.

1134
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: The bottles. Yeah, yeah, you can't kill it. Can't let

1135
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 3: them know you've.

1136
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 6: Been drinking, right, And then I just remember being blacked

1137
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 6: out in the shower, then washing my hair in the shower,

1138
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 6: and then my mom picked.

1139
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: Me up in the morning and was like, have you

1140
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: been drinking.

1141
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 14: I was like, you never trust me, right, yeah, I

1142
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 14: can't believe you. I remember, Oh my god. And that's

1143
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 14: the thing is like my poor mother, and I say

1144
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 14: this to her. Now, I'm like, I'm so sorry because like.

1145
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 8: The things that I just and that I held onto

1146
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 8: for the longest.

1147
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 15: Like I can't believe you did this to me, like

1148
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 15: now that I have because I'm like, oh, she should

1149
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 15: have done more sooner, you know what I mean, Like,

1150
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 15: I can't believe it took you till I was like

1151
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 15: fourteen to call me a bitch, Like I was well

1152
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 15: into acting bitchy before.

1153
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 10: I've beaten her now by calling my daughter a bitch,

1154
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 10: yeah last week, So you know, at twelve, it's just yeah,

1155
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 10: you guys.

1156
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: Have much better. Like drinking stories. I was like, oh,

1157
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: those are like fancy. My sister and I used to.

1158
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 10: My dad used to travel and so it was when

1159
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 10: the airlines would give you the.

1160
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: Free little yeah yeah yeah.

1161
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 10: And my dad doesn't drink, but I think it's because

1162
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 10: he's Jewish and it was free on boggeting this. So

1163
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 10: he had all these bottles of kgnac under like little

1164
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 10: air bottles of knak and my sister and I used

1165
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 10: to when you go to bed sit when we were

1166
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 10: there underneath like the sink where he put them, and

1167
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 10: we would drink them.

1168
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: And they would be like tail craft. It again, oh God.

1169
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 10: And then we'd fill him up with water and put

1170
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 10: him back and I don't think to this day he

1171
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 10: knows that that's what we did.

1172
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: And then my mother had a bottle of vodka that

1173
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: she can.

1174
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what you don't do though, with vodka

1175
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 8: is refill it with water and put it back in

1176
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 8: the freezer where you found it.

1177
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 9: Because I oh, yeah, because then it explodes.

1178
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 8: Well, my mom, but you don't know that when you're

1179
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 8: like twelve, thirteen or fourteen, vodka doesn't freeze.

1180
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: That's actually kind of fucking hilarious.

1181
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 10: My mom used to keep it underneath her sink because

1182
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 10: my grandfather, I guess, told her that you rinse your

1183
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 10: mouth of it because it's like really good your gumbs

1184
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 10: or something.

1185
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 16: Because my mouth, yeah, because alcohol is great for your guy,

1186
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 16: so good it Really.

1187
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 9: If she did drink, she'd be a nicer human being.

1188
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: But mouth with vodka gets some fucking listerine.

1189
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, she did, And that's what I would That's what

1190
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 10: I would say if I were an alcoholic.

1191
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: She never checked it because like she never really drank, and.

1192
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 10: So when she got it, and it was like right

1193
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 10: before my stepfather really came into the picture, and my

1194
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 10: sister and I used to go into her bathroom and

1195
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 10: the shots and then like fill it up with the

1196
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 10: water and put it back out of the sink. And

1197
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 10: at some point after like Harvey moved in, right, he

1198
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 10: was like, why is this water? Yeah, he was like

1199
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 10: what do you have water under the sink? And she

1200
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 10: was in a vodka bottle and she was like, what

1201
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 10: are you talking about? It's vodka and he.

1202
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: Was like, no, it has not been vodka for quite

1203
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: some time.

1204
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 10: Right, maybe it smells a little like vodka on the cap,

1205
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 10: Like that's about it.

1206
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 9: Like those girls are drinking your mouth.

1207
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 3: Washed, like stop it. And then they put a padlock,

1208
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: that's what and then that you also can't drink and

1209
00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: will probably get you.

1210
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 9: D I'm sure what they pad locked their door after that.

1211
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: But you know it's like do you tell like how

1212
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 3: much do you tell them?

1213
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 9: How much?

1214
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: You don't?

1215
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: Because my I could not talk to my parents about

1216
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: anything remotely, I mean either, and so like maybeye, like

1217
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: twelfth grade, I don't even know that, like eleven, twelve thirteen,

1218
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: I didn't talk about sex and I was fucking I

1219
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: didn't talk about them.

1220
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: I didn't talk about like drugs or alcohol, because I

1221
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 3: knew I was just.

1222
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: Gonna be shunned and put in punishment for life right right.

1223
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: But then on the like the flip side, I was

1224
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: thirteen and like hanging out like you're even born thirteen

1225
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: and reading like bad girl books right hung out with

1226
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: this bitchroom school who I don't even know why her

1227
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: old stepdad was picking her up from school.

1228
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 3: Wasn't even like her current stepdad.

1229
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: She was like she was like the ex step dad,

1230
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: and she had she was troubled, like she had gone

1231
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: from home to home.

1232
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1233
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: Oh, my friend Ashley's dad's picking us up after school.

1234
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: This nigga picked us up, pulled over, had a cooler

1235
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: in the trunk with like wine coolers.

1236
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: I sort of know that I knew this was thirteen.

1237
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 17: Jesus Christ then took us to the beach, bought a cigarette,

1238
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 17: and took us to the third Street promenade to steal what.

1239
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: He what you're what do you mean? Wait? Was whose

1240
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: whose idea was the steel steal? And I guess it

1241
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: was ours or hers? I don't know. You like, yo,

1242
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna steal some ship. He was like, Okay, we

1243
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 3: pull over, but he was away driver. She was literally troubled.

1244
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: He was obviously in some form of.

1245
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: A perf because yeah, will we pick up four thirteen

1246
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: year olds get them drunk?

1247
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: No, he like, pre had the cooler in there.

1248
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 10: That's so creepy, sexy, don't get murdered.

1249
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: That's thirteen. We're like what at thirteen? Yeah, you understand. No,

1250
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: he's trying to put his finger in your button.

1251
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're lucky what it was stealing, come out

1252
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: the store, give it to him so we have more

1253
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: room to steal.

1254
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 3: And then on another occasion, he took us to his apartment, which, no,

1255
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: this is actually really scary.

1256
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, I'm already scared.

1257
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: I'm scared too. I see. This is the thing. At thirteen,

1258
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: they're super cool and they know that and are like, thirteen,

1259
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: this is what's scary, is it? Not the other kids.

1260
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 8: Shit, it's when they're like, oh, I found a cool

1261
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 8: adult that I'm gonna hang out drunk. But he were

1262
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 8: like no, no, no, no, that's not what we were doing.

1263
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: And and oh yeah, we were drinking at his house.

1264
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: I think like in the shower. I wait, wait, he.

1265
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Wasn't like in the bathroom, but he was in the house,

1266
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: and like I mean, the scary part is now that

1267
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: I was thirteen and drunk and a blackout, really right,

1268
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: and so who I mean, Like, I don't think anything happened,

1269
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: but obviously the fact that this grown ass, unmarried man

1270
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: was just thirteen year old giving us alcohol. We were

1271
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: probably running around the like name right, I'm sure I

1272
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: didn't have just as much I have now, not much.

1273
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: But the point is it's just like it's and so

1274
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: it's like, at.

1275
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: What point do we be Like I'm like, Okay, Luna,

1276
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: you want to have a drink, We're gonna do it

1277
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: here at this fucking house.

1278
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: Okay, no creepy step ex stepdads.

1279
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: But it's like, how do you deliver the messages like

1280
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: I've done this ship, I've been there, I've done that,

1281
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: and there's creepy people.

1282
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: But the thing is it doesn't oh my mom, goodness, dude,

1283
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: it's fine.

1284
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 8: The thing is this, it's well, it's a fine line.

1285
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 8: And also it doesn't matter. It doesn't because if they're

1286
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 8: gonna do it, they're gonna do it whether you approve

1287
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 8: of it or not. If you approve of it, then

1288
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 8: they might at least tell you, but they're still gonna

1289
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 8: do the shady ship you don't know about, and if

1290
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 8: you don't approve of it, then they're just gonna do

1291
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 8: the shady sheit you don't know about. Right.

1292
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 3: But here's the thing is they.

1293
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 8: Could even if you know about it, they could still

1294
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 8: be doing that. That's just what teenagers do. And that's

1295
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 8: like watching Euphoria. That's the thing is you go like, oh,

1296
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 8: you see everything on that show from the parents that

1297
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 8: are cool with it to the parents and there it's

1298
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 8: they're all doing because it's that's what teenagers do. It's

1299
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 8: and it's actually an important thing that they do, is

1300
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 8: make mistakes and push boundaries. That's what they're supposed to

1301
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 8: be doing. But the terrifying thing is is that they

1302
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 8: do it. There's serious consequen.

1303
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: Thankfully, like I didn't get raped or murdered, right, But

1304
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: the truth is those things do happen, and like, how

1305
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: do we navigate dumb You've got to talk.

1306
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 10: To them, my fa I mean, I don't you know,

1307
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 10: I think I talked to you guys about this, and

1308
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 10: you obviously know, like I came out publicly using cannabis

1309
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 10: for a PPD, and I you know, my kids know

1310
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 10: my kids will hand me my vape. They know where

1311
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 10: it is, like everything else is locked up. They can't

1312
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 10: get to it. And that's really more just for like

1313
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 10: because I don't know. I don't even know why I

1314
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 10: lock it up anymore. They would not touch it.

1315
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: My alcohol is out.

1316
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 10: They could definitely get into that way worse. But I mean,

1317
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 10: I've let Harper, you know, when she's like, I want

1318
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 10: to what does that drink taste like? Because my mom

1319
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 10: was so taboo about alcohol and all anything drugs or anything,

1320
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 10: and it's like all I want to do is get

1321
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 10: out of that house so they can try something, you know,

1322
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 10: And it's like I don't want to make that be

1323
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 10: the thing, so I you know, I'm like, well, here,

1324
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 10: you want to try a little civiline. You can have

1325
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 10: the wind, dip your finger into the whiskey.

1326
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 9: Let me know what you think. You know, you're the

1327
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 9: same kind of thing.

1328
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: She looks.

1329
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 10: She taught herself how to make martinis and old fashions.

1330
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 3: And find out I call her Sally Draper when she

1331
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: does that, I'm like, ah, ahead, a Sala Drapert me drink.

1332
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 10: I don't drink very much, but when I do, it's

1333
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 10: kind of like she'll want to know, like how.

1334
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 3: It all happens or whatever. I don't have a I

1335
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: don't have.

1336
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 9: An issue with that.

1337
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 10: And I also know it doesn't make a damn difference,

1338
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 10: like you said, because she's gonna do what she's going

1339
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 10: to do. And now she's in bought mitzvah season, you know,

1340
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 10: because she's almost thirteen.

1341
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 9: Well, I'm fucking Jewish.

1342
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 3: I remember what happens in bot mitsvuzz And I'll tell

1343
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: you because none of you are.

1344
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 10: Guess what at thirteen years old, when people throw gigantic

1345
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 10: bought mitzvahs, there's a bunch of people, older people drinking

1346
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 10: and they.

1347
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 3: Walk on around right and every and.

1348
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 9: Then they put there down and they got someplace else.

1349
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 10: And as a thirteen year old, you go and walk

1350
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 10: in the room and like the real quickly, and you

1351
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 10: write to your friends and then that you know and

1352
00:56:59,280 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 10: nobody else.

1353
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: So that's the first time that I remember like drinking

1354
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 3: at all.

1355
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 10: And so she came home from one batbits but I

1356
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 10: dropped her friend off and she came in the door,

1357
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 10: you know, and she was, you know, hanging out next

1358
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 10: to me, and I just like to her and I said, so, uh,

1359
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 10: what drinks did you try?

1360
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 3: And she went, what and I was like, what drinks.

1361
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 10: Did you try? And she goes, no, I didn't try anything,

1362
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 10: and I go, Jesus Christ Harper. I was like, you're

1363
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 10: gonna lie to me. You're really gonna lie to my

1364
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 10: face right now? What did you try? And she was like,

1365
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 10: am I in trouble?

1366
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 9: And I said, no, you're not trouble.

1367
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: Lest you lie to me, I said, just tell me

1368
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: and she was like, okay, well I try to look

1369
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: and Tonic and I like it and.

1370
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 9: She goes no, and I was like, yeah, that was rough.

1371
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 3: I was like, what else like? And she told me.

1372
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 10: She was like, we all took SIPs and then there

1373
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 10: was this one and I didn't know what it was.

1374
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 10: And I was like, oh, yeah, right, you know it

1375
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 10: was turned out. I was.

1376
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 3: I told my kids too about like lying.

1377
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 8: I go, look, tell me, don't I go, And I

1378
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 8: know you're afraid to do this. I go, but one,

1379
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 8: I know when you're lying, yep, I go. And two,

1380
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 8: if you tell me the truth, we can work with

1381
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 8: the truth.

1382
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: I was like.

1383
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 8: And I'm not gonna get mad if we've got truth

1384
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 8: to work with. I said, but if you lie to

1385
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 8: me and I know you're lying to me, and it's

1386
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 8: like something that I'm like, then then I've got nothing and.

1387
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: I can't help you. I can't get you out of it.

1388
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: I don't see right.

1389
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 8: I was like, I might help you figure some ship out, right, No,

1390
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 8: like I'll help you hide the body, but you got

1391
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 8: to be honest that there's a body, right.

1392
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 3: That's awesome because then Harper said at one point, she

1393
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: was like, well, I.

1394
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 6: Didn't, but if you lie to me about it, I

1395
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 6: get that ship out of the drunk right, was like,

1396
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 6: I didn't really want to do it at first, and

1397
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 6: everyone was like daring, and I felt like I had to.

1398
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 10: And I was like, okay, well, hold on, I don't

1399
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 10: care that you wanted to try a drink. If you

1400
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 10: want to try a drink. Although I'm surprised because you

1401
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 10: could have asked me and I probably would have let

1402
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 10: you take your finger in something. I said, what I

1403
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 10: don't You don't ever need to feel like you need

1404
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 10: to drink or do.

1405
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 3: Anything because your friends are doing it.

1406
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 10: They're just trying to get you to go along with

1407
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 10: it so they feel right and they'll do it too.

1408
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 10: Like you can say no, it doesn't matter, like whatever,

1409
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 10: that's fine, and she you know, and she gets a

1410
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 10: weed as No, I mean, that's like nothing.

1411
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 9: I don't care. Do you don't care if she starts.

1412
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 6: To do you think that would you encourage her to

1413
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 6: smoke for the first time with you?

1414
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: Or I hope she does?

1415
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, I hope she does. And if you're an

1416
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 6: age limit in your mind, of like.

1417
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 10: I mean, I wish it was legal now because I'm

1418
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 10: much rather she's got anxiety and I'd much rather like

1419
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 10: be able to help her with that than put her

1420
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 10: on whatever medication some doctor's going to tell me that

1421
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 10: she probably should be on because she's got panic attacks.

1422
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: I'd much rather prefer that. But I mean, right now,

1423
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: I would go with the legal.

1424
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 10: Limit of what that is in our state, which you

1425
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 10: know is still having twenty one and you know, unless

1426
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 10: you get a med card, which I honestly looked into

1427
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 10: trying to get her a med card.

1428
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 3: Her dad is vehemently opposed to that.

1429
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 10: He's sober, and I understand that that's something that he

1430
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 10: doesn't get, although I also know that I have sober.

1431
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: Friends that don't feel that cannabis should.

1432
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 9: Be in that category. So I have a hard.

1433
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: Time with it because you smoke it. No, no, no, no.

1434
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 10: But you're but you know what, I know what you're

1435
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 10: again of me, and I appreciate that. I mean that

1436
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 10: you're you know. I will turn to to Jody and

1437
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 10: ask her, you know, questions around like what is you know?

1438
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 10: And I know that, you know, we talked about opioid

1439
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 10: addiction and studies, so I'll bombard her with studies and

1440
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 10: she's like, I.

1441
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: Support whatever you do.

1442
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I know one of the first times

1443
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 10: that we were we were starting to do never thought

1444
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 10: I had and you sets me right away or like

1445
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 10: I already told you know my manager that you're cannabis

1446
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 10: adocate and you don't have to take that out.

1447
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: You don't have to put it.

1448
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 8: No, I'm actually like I've already even though I'm sober,

1449
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 8: I'm a big cannabis advocate. I think it's I think

1450
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 8: it's actually much healthier in a lot of ways than anything,

1451
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 8: you know, a lot of medications. I think it's better

1452
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 8: for you than alcohol. I think, you know, there's a

1453
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 8: there's a lot of things. I think it's a huge

1454
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 8: yar for years, Cannabis is a gateway drug. No, I well,

1455
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 8: I'm always trauma is a gateway drug. Trauma is a

1456
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 8: gateway drug and trauma. Resolutely, trauma, trauma is the underlying root.

1457
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: Cause of all addiction. It has nothing to do with

1458
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 3: what substance you use.

1459
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: You you can use food, you can use food, you

1460
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: can use sex, you can use, shopping, you can you

1461
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: can use.

1462
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 8: Anything to do with trauma. Trauma is the gateway. But

1463
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 8: if you don't have that underlying trauma that is leading

1464
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 8: you to search for something to make you feel whole,

1465
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 8: then it's not gonna be a problem.

1466
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1467
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 8: If that, if you don't have the genetic makeup that

1468
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 8: makes you an addict, it's not gonna be a problem.

1469
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 10: Yeah. Pharmaceuticals aren't addictive, but they certainly are things that

1470
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 10: people can you know, develop as a crutch as well.

1471
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 10: Opioids are, yes, for sure, but I meant like SSRIs

1472
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 10: but you.

1473
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: Know, I mean those aren't addictive.

1474
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 10: But certainly, the the the the attention that one can

1475
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 10: get from having any sort of you know, mental disorder

1476
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 10: is And if you're like I'm gonna try this new

1477
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 10: met and the I'm gonna do this new meta or whatever,

1478
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 10: like you can pile on sr SSRIs to different things

1479
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 10: all the time trying to do, you know, control your mood.

1480
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 10: And that's not to take away from any mood disorder,

1481
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 10: because of course I have an anxiety disorder. To meet

1482
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 10: the band, but like I don't feel like for me,

1483
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 10: for me personally, I would rather use something natural that

1484
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 10: I now know is not only not a gateway drug,

1485
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 10: but is non addictive. I know where it comes from,

1486
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 10: I know what's in it. I don't know what you're

1487
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 10: I get a bottle of something, I don't know what's

1488
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 10: in that.

1489
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know if it's really

1490
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: not addictive.

1491
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 8: You're telling me it's not well and like they always

1492
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 8: say too, like you know, five drunk guys will start

1493
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 8: a fight, five stone guys will start a band.

1494
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, I mean if she comes to me before

1495
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 10: the legal limit, I mean I I you know, I

1496
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 10: just don't want to lose my kids, so I wouldn't

1497
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 10: want to do that. Well, she probably do it behind

1498
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 10: my back and then tell me maybe I prefer if I.

1499
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: Was there, I would I smoked weed. I think I

1500
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 1: saw you like thirteen, Like I don't get really at high.

1501
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: But when I me and my best friend went to Mexico,

1502
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: her mom rolled this little joints. You know, Rappini contest

1503
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: in the morning for Easter Sunday. She rolled his little joints,

1504
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: put our winnings.

1505
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 3: Out and gave us each Easter baskets and we chilled,

1506
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 3: you know. And I really didn't really start smoking weed

1507
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 3: until I.

1508
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: Got to college, right, we were like sixteen, well high school. Yeah,

1509
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: and even then, yeah, like it was because you know whatever,

1510
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: it was like baass weed.

1511
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 3: It was in Georgia.

1512
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 9: It was brick weed, like what.

1513
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: They call reggie, which is like stress.

1514
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: Right, And then as an adult, you know, and then

1515
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need way kill everybody.

1516
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: But you know, I just I agree.

1517
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: I think I think we're in a place where like

1518
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: doctors and parents are fucking bogus, and like little little

1519
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: Jojo has has anxiety, Little jojes depast.

1520
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 3: Let him give him merry.

1521
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 10: Just because he's not behaving for their going through cmonal

1522
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 10: changes that's actually normal.

1523
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 3: Or trauma or in the household.

1524
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: But people are so quick to give your kids some

1525
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: fucking pharmaceutical drugs. Like everybody's up in arms when the

1526
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: mom's getting high and totally fine.

1527
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 10: And I also, you can use cannabis and not get

1528
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 10: high either way. Well you can just microdose. I'm micro

1529
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 10: dose and I'm not high like, I'm.

1530
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 3: Just normal like and I'm just not stabbing. I don't

1531
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: want to kill them.

1532
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 9: So I think there's that.

1533
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 10: I mean, listen and then like women that get you,

1534
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 10: guys should talk to Kelly Osborn Bruce by the way,

1535
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 10: the Kanamammie.

1536
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 9: Her story is, I mean, God, what she's gone through,

1537
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 9: she's amazing.

1538
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 10: People get their kids taken away for using you know,

1539
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 10: cannabis that's insane, nursing or using it while you're pregnant.

1540
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 10: I get that there are studies that people are unclear on,

1541
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 10: well how are.

1542
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: These people like hey, because I know that's a possibility,

1543
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: and obviously we're talking candidly about being moms that medicate.

1544
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 3: How what happened, so we can avoid that.

1545
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 10: Well, she would tell you, but I think with her

1546
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 10: at least the first time, I want to say, she

1547
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 10: was pregnant and you know, her doctor decided to test

1548
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 10: for it when she went in.

1549
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 3: For like regular tests.

1550
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 10: I'm pretty sure, and I'm pretty sure that's how she

1551
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 10: ended up trading things around.

1552
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: You have to ask her.

1553
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 10: I don't want to put words in her mouth, but

1554
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 10: and I'll connect you guys because she's amazing. But that

1555
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 10: here's the other thing, and people have come at me.

1556
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 10: I've I mean, I was remember last year they asked

1557
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 10: me to do a PBS show about this and I

1558
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 10: did it with the doctor and the doctor screamed in

1559
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 10: my face and told me I was fucking dangerous.

1560
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: It was so bad that they couldn't air the show

1561
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 3: because he came.

1562
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 9: At me so hard.

1563
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 10: And he was a like maybe eighty five year old

1564
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 10: white dude with no kids, and it obviously never been

1565
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 10: fucking pregnant. And when I said, and I cited, you know,

1566
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 10: there's a huge study in Jamaica that they they did

1567
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 10: with women who smoked while they were nursing, maybe while

1568
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 10: they were pregnant, but definitely while they were nursing. And

1569
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 10: then on and they followed these kids for ten eleven years.

1570
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 10: Not only did these kids not end up, you know,

1571
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 10: behind everyone else, they were fucking advanced, every single one

1572
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 10: of them. And so they were like, yeah, there's not

1573
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 10: really a correlation here. And I brought it up and

1574
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 10: he was like, well, was that done by somebody in Jamaica?

1575
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 10: Like he like was all xenophobic, and I was like,

1576
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 10: it was done by an American Actually, and.

1577
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: Wait study Yep, they were probably high too. Yeah, yeah,

1578
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: right there.

1579
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 9: I was like, fuck you, dude.

1580
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 10: But I always say that people and they're like, is

1581
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 10: it what about women that use it when they're pregnant

1582
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 10: or nursing.

1583
01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 9: My mom asked me that once and I was like.

1584
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 10: I don't see a lot of like really big issues

1585
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 10: with low birth weight and a lot of mental you know,

1586
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 10: retardation in Jamaica and amstercamp And I assure you, right,

1587
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 10: they're doing that, like it's the same as you know

1588
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 10: in Spain.

1589
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 9: It's very normal in Italy for that matter of brands.

1590
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,959
Speaker 10: To have a glass of wine once a week, even

1591
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 10: at once a night at dinner when you're pregnant is

1592
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 10: not that big a goddamn fucking deal.

1593
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 3: They also have.

1594
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 10: Raw cheese and japan sushi, right, Like, that's ship.

1595
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 6: It's only because America makes everything super scary about money.

1596
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 6: Well that and also our food is terrible. Yes, it's

1597
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 6: not the same. No, we should be scared.

1598
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: We should. I'm more scared.

1599
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 8: I'm more scared of all the high fruitos corn syrup

1600
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 8: in my kids food than GMO.

1601
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 10: Right than in two years from now, when the when

1602
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 10: big Pharma and Philip Morris have a steak in cannabis.

1603
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 3: I garn fucking ty Well.

1604
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 9: Love it writing out scared.

1605
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 10: It's gonna put down every everyone that's been in this

1606
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 10: business for goddamn years. It's gonna go out of business

1607
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 10: like and it's gonna be like, no big deal and

1608
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 10: it's all.

1609
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like when doctors used told people to

1610
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 3: smoke because it was.

1611
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: Healthy, I mean, in the sixties. But is we're drinking

1612
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: solon martinis while no one saw fucking hairspray. I mean,

1613
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: my grandma. I mean, and I hate to use this

1614
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: as a reference, but.

1615
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 3: I was watching a documentary and they're talking.

1616
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: About the crack era and they're talking about and the

1617
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: truth is, the research on crack babies was like, oh

1618
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: my god, we can't believe that there's this little There was.

1619
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 10: The d R.

1620
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 3: It's the ambitu.

1621
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 8: Well it's the same, you know, it's the immediate uh

1622
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 8: detox and really what you see more of. Because I

1623
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 8: work with a place called the PICK, which is pediatric

1624
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 8: Interim Care center up in Washington State, and it's run

1625
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 8: by this nurse and this team of amazing women who

1626
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 8: she's she opened this house and they take in infants

1627
01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 8: affected by drug addiction and fetal not fetal alcohosimm but well,

1628
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 8: it's anything that affects the fetus with it. When they're born.

1629
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 8: They are having to go through withdrawal synms, and the

1630
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 8: thing that they see most often is opioids and it

1631
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 8: is the heart like watching these babies go through opioid

1632
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 8: detox from legitimately prescribed drugs and some of them, some

1633
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 8: of them are heroin obviously, but a lot of them.

1634
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 8: They said, the opioid epidemic and the methemphenomine epidemic are

1635
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 8: the two worst things that they've seen for that. Like,

1636
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 8: it's not you don't see you know, cannabis babies can

1637
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 8: be you don't see, it's you see it from prescribed pharmaceuticals.

1638
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 10: Yeah. Well, there's also never been a legal study, which

1639
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 10: I constantly have to remind people where they're like, well,

1640
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 10: studies have shown no, they have those studies because it's

1641
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 10: not legal, so you actually can't do an actual, real

1642
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 10: study that would give you any sort of actual information.

1643
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 10: So that's a load of shit, So stop throwing those

1644
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 10: numbers at me. And it's so rare when they're looking

1645
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 10: at low birth weight and whatever else they're trying to

1646
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 10: like chalk up to cannabis. But I just saw there

1647
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 10: was something yesterday and I almost went to read it,

1648
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 10: and I was like.

1649
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be fucking mad. I'm not gonna about something

1650
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 3: about like the kids don't learn.

1651
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 10: As well when they're but when they start smoking at

1652
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 10: early ages, which I was like, also, bullshit, how are

1653
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 10: you testing this? But they very very rarely here, They

1654
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 10: have never because you can't isolate just cannabis. It could

1655
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 10: be cannabis and cigarettes and alcohol and meth and cocaine

1656
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 10: and opioids and who the fuck else knows it could

1657
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 10: be you could be on antidepressants, which also, by the way,

1658
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 10: have been linked to low birth weights, and we get

1659
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 10: prescribed those when we're fight and.

1660
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: Then they're totally and they and they allow women to

1661
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,919
Speaker 1: be on intipid depressants.

1662
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 10: Well, there's two that they've approved in the last couple

1663
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 10: of years. They were super old Baby Daddy, and.

1664
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 3: But then I know.

1665
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 9: That one of them was it didn't used to be approved.

1666
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 10: And then like I remember, I had PPD so bad

1667
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 10: with my first which is when I wish I'd actually

1668
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 10: realized I should use cannabis. I used it with my

1669
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 10: second because then somebody told me to and and that

1670
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 10: was very helpful. But like I remember asking can I

1671
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 10: use Gaba pin In because I had been on Gaba

1672
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 10: pint In for anxiety earlier in my twenties and it

1673
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 10: was great.

1674
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 9: Also, yeah, Neurontin worked so well.

1675
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 3: It's actually one of the few pharma suits I really

1676
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 3: really like. I use it for that.

1677
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 9: I will still sometimes use it for that.

1678
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 3: Can she for fruits? Now? Yeah? Also, why did we

1679
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: not wear our two teothes?

1680
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 10: I know, I mean they're in matching twutuos and could

1681
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 10: not be I love it and you'd be in the

1682
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 10: pink guy being the black.

1683
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 9: I was just whatever, Yeah, it's fine.

1684
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 10: But anyway, I asked, can I use that when I'm

1685
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 10: nursing Gaba pintent and they were like, no, you have

1686
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 10: to use either Prozac or zoloft, and they because it's

1687
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 10: not approved for nursing.

1688
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 3: I said, all right. One of my.

1689
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 10: Clients just went through all this crap was nursing and

1690
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 10: had to get back surgery at the same time. It

1691
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 10: was a shit show, and she was like, they just

1692
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 10: put me on Gaba pintent. I said, do they know

1693
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 10: that you're nursing and she said, yeah, I said, and

1694
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 10: they said that's okay. She's like, yeah, all right, that

1695
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 10: is a what twelve year difference that you decided in

1696
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 10: that time? No, no, no, now it's fine right in

1697
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 10: fact that medication didn't change.

1698
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 3: You don't know what you're talking about and at and

1699
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't realize that's so much misinformation.

1700
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of long term research. No, they

1701
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 3: don't have to have a lot of long term research

1702
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: to put to approve.

1703
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 10: Shit.

1704
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: It's not about the money. It could be like two years.

1705
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: And that's why so many drugs will go for a

1706
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:22,759
Speaker 1: long time and then they'll see.

1707
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 3: The long term effects and they're like, oh shit, that's

1708
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 3: babies are getting born with mermaid fins, right right? Do that?

1709
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 10: Oh?

1710
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 8: They won't think because they don't do any testing. Well,

1711
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 8: I just watched the whole thing. Here's an amazing fact

1712
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 8: that we don't know a lot of testing and studies

1713
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 8: done on women and pregnant women are done on male

1714
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 8: test subjects.

1715
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 3: There. It was just the whole thing, I believe.

1716
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 8: I can't remember if it was Vice news I saw them,

1717
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 8: but it was a news source of legitimate news sources.

1718
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 8: Was not fucking Facebook or something like that. This was

1719
01:11:56,439 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 8: I actually was watching it and it was talking about how, uh,

1720
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 8: they don't know how There was one study that they

1721
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 8: were doing on the effect of some sort of like

1722
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 8: like hormonal treatment therapy or whatever, and they tested it

1723
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 8: on men, but it was for post menopausal whatever. And

1724
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 8: because they this doctor actually in an interview said, well,

1725
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 8: we tested on men because they don't have a lot

1726
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 8: of those pesky hormone changes that women.

1727
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 3: Do, and the ones that we need to test, the

1728
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 3: ones that we need to test on.

1729
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 8: And that was and that was the things like, so

1730
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 8: you're testing and this is still this is still happens

1731
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 8: that you're testing things on men that are supposed to

1732
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 8: be for women because they don't want to do They

1733
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 8: want a bait quote unquote baseline that isn't affected by

1734
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 8: monthly hormonal changes. But the problem is is you can't

1735
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 8: untake that into account. So a lot of things get

1736
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 8: tested and approved for women that have never actually been

1737
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 8: tested on women because they haven't they didn't want to

1738
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 8: get interfered with monthly hormonal tis.

1739
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 3: But that has a huge effect on the efficacy and

1740
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 3: the nature of the house. Believe believe.

1741
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 8: So just so you know, like a lot of research

1742
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 8: on medical devices, implanted medical devices, all of that kind

1743
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 8: of stuff does not go through anything because you can

1744
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 8: actually there's a law that says that you can base

1745
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 8: it on previous models, but there's no limit to how

1746
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 8: many previous models it can be, how old those models were,

1747
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 8: and those models were, so you can actually say like, oh,

1748
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 8: we don't need to do any testing or any approval

1749
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 8: by the FDA on this IUD or this. There was

1750
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 8: one there was an IUD that actually screwed into the

1751
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 8: Philippian tubes and they didn't have to do any testing

1752
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 8: on it because it was based on previous IUD models,

1753
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,440
Speaker 8: And so that went back decades and decades and decades,

1754
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 8: and then what happened was is women started having problems

1755
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 8: because so much scar tissue was being developed by these

1756
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 8: particular IUDs that you know, had dug into the Filippian

1757
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 8: tubes and the uterus. Women had to have their unses removed.

1758
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 8: His directed me, He's like, all of this really gnarly

1759
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 8: stuff because it.

1760
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 3: Was just never tested on women.

1761
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 6: Wow, that's so crazy as America.

1762
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 3: I don't trust shit they.

1763
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 8: Tell me, you know, I actually I love my physician

1764
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 8: who's amazing and he's worked in the field of like

1765
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 8: addiction treatment for a long time, and he's he's one

1766
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 8: of those people that like will go and I'm like

1767
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 8: this is you know, this is happening, and he's like, okay, great,

1768
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 8: He's like, I'm not going to put you on this.

1769
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: A lot of doctors would do it.

1770
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 8: I'm not going to do this because it's not you know,

1771
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 8: it hasn't been tested or here's the latest study on that,

1772
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 8: and I don't think it's effective, or this is not

1773
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 8: you know.

1774
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 3: Like, way didn't you tell me?

1775
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 10: He was the one that was like, I didn't have

1776
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 10: you ask him something about cannabis and he was like, oh,

1777
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 10: I'd always rather.

1778
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 8: Like yes, but yeah, yeah, because you know, he was like,

1779
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 8: what is normally prescribed?

1780
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 3: You know, he's like, I'm never going to.

1781
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 8: Put you on an adavan or any sort of xanax

1782
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 8: or anything.

1783
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 3: He's like because for someone.

1784
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 8: With addiction, he goes, that's the worst thing you can do,

1785
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 8: because and right, and you know, when I was prescribed

1786
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 8: musclele axs for the car accident, he was like, I

1787
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 8: would have never put you on those. He said, soma's

1788
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 8: are actually one of the hardest and most dangerous things

1789
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 8: to detox from immediately said, even after like a month's use.

1790
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 3: If you're using Soma's.

1791
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 8: You know, several times a day, the detox from them

1792
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 8: often causes really terrible seizures, even after you've only been

1793
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 8: using it for a month. But people don't know that

1794
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 8: because they're just prescribed must or relaxers like they're candy.

1795
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 3: Right.

1796
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 10: Well, that's because big farmer makes a lot of money.

1797
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 10: It also gives to our politicians and so on and

1798
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 10: so forth, and we're off like that's what it comes out.

1799
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just takes like but I think all the

1800
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 3: most important thing to remember, Like.

1801
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 8: But you know, because if we were joking about bad

1802
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 8: good moms and bad choices, you know, like that's I

1803
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 8: think there's so much shame put on what are supposedly

1804
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 8: bad choice like bad.

1805
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 3: Women and for women.

1806
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 8: That's what I mean, for women and for moms like

1807
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 8: men men can get. No one's ever gonna say to

1808
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 8: a guy like, oh, you know, like oh you drink,

1809
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 8: you know, or like when you had.

1810
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 10: A baby, like you had anything. I'm like, has any god,

1811
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 10: has any dad, any single dad ever lost their kids

1812
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 10: because they spoke I curious about that.

1813
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 3: I'm going to go look it up, like I doubt to,

1814
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 3: probably right, And because.

1815
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 8: It's somehow when you become a mother, you're supposed to

1816
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 8: now be well And it ties back into the dating stuff.

1817
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 8: Now that you're a mom, you're you're a non sexual being.

1818
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 8: You're not a lot, You're you're not supposed to prioritize yourself,

1819
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 8: your fun, your enjoyment, your sexuality, your health.

1820
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 3: You have but not too sexy, anything that you partook

1821
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,839
Speaker 3: in before right now now you're a mom, and everything's

1822
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 3: different at the window. Just bring them over here. And

1823
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 3: that's why it's just like all the time.

1824
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: When when we first started this podcast, it took us

1825
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 1: like two weeks to figure out the name, and I

1826
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: don't love it. Who I told and they're like, I

1827
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't go with bad choices because like what's bad?

1828
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, well, that's why I apologize.

1829
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: Literally, I don't think you're understanding like the context of bad,

1830
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: and like the whole thing is like all things that

1831
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 1: are supposed to be bad just aren't right, you know.

1832
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 6: And then you have the bad choices, Well some of

1833
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 6: them could have done it out, but most of my

1834
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 6: bad choices, have good lessons good.

1835
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely, why for sure? No, But I'm and I'm the

1836
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 3: same way. But I think it's neat wally now.

1837
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 8: But I think as moms, we we do feel so

1838
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 8: much shame, and we're taught to shame ourselves. Like there's

1839
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 8: times when I'm like, oh, I'm you know, like we

1840
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 8: gonna know how my kids or something. I'm like, oh,

1841
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 8: I'm excited to go see my boyfriend have some time,

1842
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 8: like to be a woman and to be like you know,

1843
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 8: and that's right, and that's a great and that's super healthy.

1844
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 8: Like I am a healthier person because I have sides

1845
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 8: of me that aren't just parent focused. And you know,

1846
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 8: I feel it probably from my baby's dads, from my

1847
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 8: you know, my mom. Like that people look at you like, oh,

1848
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 8: you're gonna make Oh that's the choice you're making, and

1849
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 8: you're like yeah, god, yeah, God damn it, I am

1850
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 8: because you know what I can. I can be a

1851
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 8: really great mom and prioritize my kids and also say,

1852
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,839
Speaker 8: you know what I need. I need some things for myself,

1853
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 8: Like sometimes I need to get laid sometimes, but that's

1854
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 8: the thing, like to be especially to be a single

1855
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 8: mom and talk about like, Hey, I really enjoyed the

1856
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 8: next with my man, Like that's great.

1857
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 16: Like people like I know, oh, you know you're using

1858
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 16: that right, like oh you're like you had kids, right,

1859
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 16: and you're like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know, but

1860
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 16: like my vagina was so short after I had kids because.

1861
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 10: You know, But can I also say, and in the

1862
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 10: time I've known you that that's new for you, And that's.

1863
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: What I'm just looking over your shoulder at the dog shitting.

1864
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 8: Okay very seriously and then like it was just turns

1865
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 8: uh yeah, no, I that's.

1866
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 3: New for you.

1867
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 10: I will say, just knowing you as long as I have,

1868
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 10: like you didn't used to put yourself first. You and

1869
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 10: we talk about this a lot because you've turned around,

1870
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 10: and that's that was I was gonna say, my bad

1871
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 10: choice because I didn't.

1872
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,799
Speaker 3: I didn't make some of the choices you did earlier

1873
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 3: on in life.

1874
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 10: Right.

1875
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we talked the terrible choices. But they but

1876
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 3: you know what they like you said, they weren't they

1877
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 3: were terrible, they weren't great.

1878
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 8: Learn but I learned and I wouldn't change him because

1879
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 8: I had.

1880
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 3: I had to really go there to be they are.

1881
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, but we talked about this music because we were

1882
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 10: talking about addiction and uh, and I said, you know,

1883
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 10: I feel very lucky that I've never been addicted to

1884
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 10: any sort of substance. I've certainly come I've walked a

1885
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 10: line on things for sure. Ope, it's being one of them.

1886
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 10: And then realized like, okay, I got that's actually not

1887
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 10: something I can ever do again. And uh, but I

1888
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 10: said to you the other day, I was like, it

1889
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 10: was people for me. It's always been people, and specifically

1890
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 10: and you were like, yeah, you are the perfect codependent,

1891
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 10: which is true. I've and I've always dulled my myself

1892
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 10: down to for a man. It was like I always

1893
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 10: put a guy before everything, honestly right, and I chased

1894
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 10: my ex husband around and you know, he was like

1895
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 10: the one that I had to have, and then I

1896
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 10: got him and I was like, well, wait, I'm not

1897
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 10: even really sure it was even great, none of it,

1898
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 10: but I said I wanted it so and then I

1899
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 10: spent fourteen years making my entire life about him and

1900
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 10: his and his everything. And I was like, no, I

1901
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 10: I'll give up being an actress and you know, no,

1902
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 10: I don't need a private practice.

1903
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 3: When I finally got my you know, therapy license and everything.

1904
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 10: It was like, you, you know whatever you need, well,

1905
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 10: I've never doing that again.

1906
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 3: And you went through parts of that absolutely well. And

1907
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 3: I think too, because.

1908
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 10: So seeing you with him has made me so happy

1909
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 10: and like she and her boyfriend give me hope because

1910
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 10: he just is so happy to let her be yes,

1911
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 10: yeh and not.

1912
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 3: But I think right, And I think a lot of

1913
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 3: that too.

1914
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 8: Growing in that direction came from realizing that my previous

1915
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,879
Speaker 8: bad decisions don't mean that I'm currently making.

1916
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 3: Bad decisions.

1917
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 10: Right.

1918
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 3: But I think I was constantly trying to prove to

1919
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 3: my daughter's dads, to my mom, look at okay, it's

1920
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 3: just okay, am I doing better? I'm doing better now,

1921
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 3: I'm doing like yeah, give me.

1922
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 8: And now I realized like, oh wait, I'm not making

1923
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 8: I'm not making terrible. I'm actually fine, and like you,

1924
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 8: I don't have to like a right, like everybody's good.

1925
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 8: I'm working, I'm paying the bills, the kids are taking

1926
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 8: care of. Everybody's all good, like you.

1927
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 10: She was with you and you she had to get

1928
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 10: me out of a bad date and she was with

1929
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 10: Mescal at the time, and I called me from New

1930
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 10: York to get me out of a bad date.

1931
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 9: It was terrible lest day.

1932
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 10: I went and uh and I.

1933
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 3: Believe yes.

1934
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 9: The guy cried at the bar, Oh so bad, you guys.

1935
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 3: He was so bad.

1936
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 8: I can't even that's like, and asked if you'd be

1937
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 8: h therapist was taking client new clients because he would

1938
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 8: totally hear me.

1939
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 10: I was like, I fuck this, and she I should

1940
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 10: have just run out of the bathroom, but she called

1941
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 10: me to get me out, and then I called her

1942
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 10: and her boyfriend on speaker.

1943
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 9: I was hysterically laughing, and I said to.

1944
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 10: Them at one point like I was like, you guys,

1945
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 10: if it wasn't for your relationship, I would have already

1946
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 10: turned my vagina into a coin purse. And so just

1947
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 10: and and Miscal's response was.

1948
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 3: It doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. I think you

1949
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: could use it for both.

1950
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 8: Right, He was like, you could be both. And then

1951
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 8: and then I think shortly follow that was was could

1952
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 8: you take your speaker?

1953
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 10: Right?

1954
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 3: He was like, I don't need to be a part

1955
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 3: of this now.

1956
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 8: And then now he's just like jokingly says to me

1957
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 8: the whole weekend.

1958
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 3: He was like, you're a liar. I was like, I

1959
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 3: am not. He's like I watched you lie. I was like,

1960
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 3: right now, this is just really funny because he was like,

1961
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 3: now I know the.

1962
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,799
Speaker 10: Bar after he told me that this girl had grabbed

1963
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 10: his testicles.

1964
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 3: I want to let them go.

1965
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 9: So she he punched her.

1966
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 3: In the face.

1967
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:36,759
Speaker 9: That was like the love of his life.

1968
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding, it was.

1969
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 9: It was so I'm done.

1970
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 3: This is why. But you need to say something. When

1971
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 3: I started gimming your light, when I was like, you know,

1972
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. Sorry, no, sorry, but you know.

1973
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: I think it's really great that you have like the

1974
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: aware self awareness to be like, for a long time,

1975
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: I put a lot of men before me and.

1976
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 3: Every yeah, and I did. I did do absolutely. I

1977
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 3: think a lot of women or a lot of people

1978
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:05,879
Speaker 3: listen closely.

1979
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: It's easy to be like, oh that bit smokes weed.

1980
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: She she drinks and turks. Those are bad moms. But

1981
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: people don't recommenc.

1982
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 3: I wish I could. I wish I had.

1983
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 8: It's not that I couldn't do physically do it. It's

1984
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 8: just nobody wants that. I don't have to ask to

1985
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 8: do it. I don't even as all.

1986
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: Okay, But I think people people like to categorize levels

1987
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 1: of their bad choices.

1988
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 3: There's quote unquote addictions.

1989
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 1: And if it's not like some hard drug or some

1990
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: some like you know us who are very like, uh,

1991
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: this is the ship we've done. Then if it's easy

1992
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: to like turn your nose up at these clear spaces.

1993
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 9: That right.

1994
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 3: But a lot of women prioritize men.

1995
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: A lot of women put men before them and let

1996
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: them outshine them and over their children. I mean that's

1997
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: like women. I mean everybody Loki has a dick addiction,

1998
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: right well, And I think we love companionship, we love

1999
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: right that, we love romance, you know what, that's our

2000
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: pred you know, thanks God.

2001
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 3: But but I think.

2002
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: It's important to be like I am addicted to fucking

2003
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: and sometimes I over fuck because I want I'm feeling

2004
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: a void, right, and and and acknowledging that it's like

2005
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: just because you're not like hungover every more, every afterwards,

2006
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: you feel it's still empty. You know, you're feeling you're

2007
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: not feeling that void, right, It's just important that we

2008
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: stop putting.

2009
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 3: One above the other. Right.

2010
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 8: And also to sit and I think because I you know,

2011
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 8: I've heard this a lot too, like you know, especially

2012
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 8: if you have baby daddies and you know custody shared

2013
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 8: and this and that. Like even on times that you

2014
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 8: have your kids, something comes up where it's like, oh,

2015
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 8: it's our anniversary or it's a thing, or did we

2016
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 8: have a dinner plan or whatever, and like, okay, well

2017
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 8: kids are with the citter that night. That doesn't mean

2018
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 8: you're prioritizing your relationship over your kids. That means to

2019
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 8: do so. Sometimes you got ship to do. Sometimes you

2020
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 8: have ship you want to do. Sometimes you're like, you

2021
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 8: know what, this is the thing that's coming up that

2022
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 8: I want to go with my boyfriends, you or whatever,

2023
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 8: and like we're gonna do it. It doesn't mean that

2024
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 8: I'm that I am not making my children a priority

2025
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 8: or that they're not important because I see other people

2026
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 8: be like, oh, oh you have your kids.

2027
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 3: Maybe right.

2028
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 9: I went to that cannabis thing yesterday. I had my kids.

2029
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 3: I left them for two and a half hours to

2030
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 3: go to this cannabis thing and post like, what are

2031
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 3: we supposed to do?

2032
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 10: I don't have you know what the first will put

2033
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 10: posted stuff in my stories and in my stories.

2034
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 3: Right away I saw that my ex husband had watched

2035
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: the story and.

2036
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 10: I had an anxiety attack and I was like fuck,

2037
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 10: Like is he gonna say something to me, or is

2038
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 10: he gonna think I took the kids or whatever?

2039
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 3: You know, I went there, and then you wait, like

2040
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 3: I was responsible about it. Of course I did not

2041
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 3: take them. But you don't have to explain yourself. We

2042
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 3: don't have to explain yourself.

2043
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,839
Speaker 1: Half the battle is accepting that it's okay yourself.

2044
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's what I mean. It's it's oh, for sure.

2045
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 3: There's literally no.

2046
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 1: Point on rearranging the babysitter, going on the date, going

2047
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: to the Canada's party, when the whole time you're like,

2048
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: why the fuck did I do this?

2049
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 10: Right?

2050
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 3: Alright, the kid I dropped her off.

2051
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: I told Lid I was gonna come back and get

2052
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: her the other day, and I just got drunk. Yeah

2053
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: on Adam, I thought I'm gonna go back to them,

2054
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: but like after like two martinis, I'm like, I'm not

2055
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 1: going back for shit. Yeah, And then like at some

2056
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: point I was like, what they go back and get

2057
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: my kid, because that was like another back decisions after

2058
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 1: the fifteen martinis.

2059
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,679
Speaker 3: But but the ultimate thing was like she's.

2060
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Fine, fucking fine, she even remembers right and the kids.

2061
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, be in the moment, do what

2062
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: the fuck you do, be happy about it, and let

2063
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: it's all okay, right, Like everything's gonna be okay.

2064
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 3: It's gonna be okay, it's gonna be okay.

2065
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 8: And we all because, like you know, there's times that

2066
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 8: we there's a lot of times most of the time

2067
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 8: I'm like, no, I got my kids, I can't do

2068
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 8: this or that, or I do you know, I re

2069
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 8: arrange stuff. But like you know, sometimes when you're in

2070
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 8: a long distance relationship and he works and I work,

2071
01:26:58,320 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 8: and I work crazy hours and this and that happens.

2072
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 8: Like sometimes you're like, okay, I can't come back till

2073
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 8: the day after it Like okay, well you got to

2074
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 8: figure some stuff out.

2075
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 6: That's okay, I think, like you you at least for me,

2076
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 6: Like I like, I was dating someone earlier this year,

2077
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 6: and I was spending a lot of my time with him,

2078
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 6: so much so that I felt like I was neglecting

2079
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 6: my daughter because it was something new, and I was like, well,

2080
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 6: I need this.

2081
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 3: I wanted to.

2082
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 6: Explore this, like and it's it's exciting, but but there's

2083
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 6: also a time where you know when.

2084
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 3: You're not right, you know.

2085
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 6: Too much, you know what I mean, And I had

2086
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 6: to have that conversation with myself.

2087
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 1: But also I think for you that triggered you because

2088
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 1: that you didn't pair those people like he didn't come

2089
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: this way a lot.

2090
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 3: It wasn't like something you could put you didn't feel like.

2091
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 10: It was like it wasn't even no, like I was

2092
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 10: going going out there all the time.

2093
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 3: That was what I've been with my long distance too.

2094
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it was like, but but that was my choice,

2095
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It was like and so

2096
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 6: but I had to at some point come back and

2097
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 6: be like, you know what I'm doing too much?

2098
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, let me sit my ass down.

2099
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 6: And and but there's there's a there's I feel like

2100
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 6: there's not it's not a fine line, you know.

2101
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know when you're like when you need this care,

2102
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 3: you need that, and then you.

2103
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 10: Know when you're like, okay, yeah, now I'm just distracted

2104
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 10: from my kid and I'm not present even when I'm

2105
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 10: with them. Right, there is a difference, right, And that's

2106
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 10: what I meant also about bad choices where it's like

2107
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 10: I'm not going to be that person ever again. I

2108
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 10: don't want to be that person ever again. And and

2109
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 10: sometimes I've done that to myself just you know, look,

2110
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 10: I want to find somebody. And I will give my

2111
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 10: last ex credit for the in the sense that I

2112
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 10: give him credit for a lot of things, but certainly

2113
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 10: that you know, he was like the first guy that

2114
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 10: I was with that was like, go do your thing,

2115
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 10: like you got your kids, you got this, like do

2116
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 10: you think I'm never gonna and was very always very

2117
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 10: supportive of my career and everything I was doing, like

2118
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 10: really very like complimentary and great in that way. It

2119
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 10: was me that went down the rabbit hole of like, well,

2120
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 10: you know, but I had a he's I have to

2121
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 10: make sure that I'm here and I'm good and I'm

2122
01:28:58,720 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 10: this and I'm that.

2123
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 9: Like that was not him.

2124
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 3: That was on me.

2125
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: But also I think it's also important, like you could

2126
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: also do that in the relationship with your kid's father.

2127
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know what, it's not. It's not exempted

2128
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 3: just single moms.

2129
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: No, absolutely married women people in your partnerships with their

2130
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 1: parents their kids.

2131
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 3: You neglect your kid for your partner and it be

2132
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 3: their dad.

2133
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: I feel like my mom, like I would I went

2134
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: to therapy, haven't we all? Yeah the first time, my god, yeah,

2135
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 1: all the way I'm like, am I wasting my money

2136
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty I'm pretty rational. I need to be

2137
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: going here, but whatever, and then you get in there

2138
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, this is weird but it's cool,

2139
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: but are we talking about Oh?

2140
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 3: So of course that she comes up and I just

2141
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 3: and she's asked about my relationships my mom.

2142
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: My dad, and I was just saying right, but I

2143
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: was just thinking, like my mom is and was absess

2144
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: with my father where he was at who waits with

2145
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: when you my mom was my stepdad?

2146
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 3: And if he was leaving, where the fuck are you going?

2147
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: And it's to the point where, like when my dad

2148
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: leaves till this day is like a grown ass woman.

2149
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 3: I get like like anxiety about it, like why are

2150
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 3: you leaving? And I'm like, okay, I'll acting like a psychopath.

2151
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 3: But I adopted those feelings, you know, of like him

2152
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 3: not coming back, like I don't know what the fuck,

2153
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 3: I don't care.

2154
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: It's not my nigga, you know, right, But I just

2155
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: I like I realized I lost respect for her growing

2156
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: up because I felt like she couldn't be alone.

2157
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm like my mom and even like when

2158
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 3: you said, like your mom someone being seventeen, still my mom. Yeah,

2159
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 3: my mom. They were together since my mom was like fourteen,

2160
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 3: my dad was seventeen.

2161
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 1: And sometimes I see her now like as in her

2162
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: and like as a child, right like when she needs

2163
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: to make decisions at the supermarket and she's calling.

2164
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 10: My dad yes, and my mom does this to my stepdad.

2165
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 10: But my mom got married and my dad when she

2166
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 10: was seventeen, but still her first. And she's the same

2167
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 10: with my sof she cannot be apart, she was not.

2168
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 10: She never gave herself the ability to developed. There was

2169
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 10: no there was no autonomy that was ever developed in

2170
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 10: them because they just had a man man the entire

2171
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 10: time and the informative.

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Speaker 8: You definitely, I mean I was like that for a

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Speaker 8: long time. And honestly, I've Marie the first time I

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Speaker 8: was twenty yeah, and I you know, I've struggled a

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Speaker 8: lot with making men.

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Speaker 3: The priority and you know, and doing all that.

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Speaker 8: But I will say, like the healthiest thing I think

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Speaker 8: for me now has actually been having a long distance

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Speaker 8: relationship and having and also having a long distance relationship

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Speaker 8: with someone who's absolutely amazing and who allows me the

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Speaker 8: space to just be like we're not constantly up each

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Speaker 8: other's ass on the phone all the time, Like it's

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Speaker 8: like you do you, but you trust each other. We're

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Speaker 8: completely committed and solid. But it's like I don't need

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Speaker 8: to be up his ass, he doesn't need to know

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Speaker 8: what I'm doing. All this like it's not panicked. It's

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Speaker 8: very secure and I have found relationships like I have

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Speaker 8: found the freedom to figure out my own life and

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Speaker 8: have my own time and space and friendships and relationships

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Speaker 8: and you know, put my kids first and do all

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Speaker 8: that stuff well. Also having this really secure relationship that

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Speaker 8: like I know is only going to be better when

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Speaker 8: we're closer together, you know what I mean. But it

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Speaker 8: was amazing for me to have that space space because

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Speaker 8: I never had that space before.

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Speaker 10: You guys, being always been my maybe did you guys

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Speaker 10: watch that? It's Ali Wong's Netflix rom com?

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Speaker 3: All right? So do I And I can't recommend it enough.

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Speaker 3: And now I don't want to give too much away,

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Speaker 3: but it's.

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Speaker 10: Not going to be it won't blow your mind or anything,

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Speaker 10: but I will say that it was you know, it's

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Speaker 10: a rom comm and it's about like, you know, got

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Speaker 10: friends that were you know, boy boy and girlfriends that

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Speaker 10: you know had a thing and then they go their

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Speaker 10: separate ways, and when they become adults, they kind of

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Speaker 10: find their way back to each other. And she is

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Speaker 10: like the super successful person in the relationship public figure.

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Speaker 3: And he is like kind of still like farting around,

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Speaker 3: and she basically like it's really good.

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Speaker 10: And and at one point, you know, like they're like

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Speaker 10: on the verge of breaking up, and because he's a key,

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Speaker 10: keeps having to like be on the red carpet and

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Speaker 10: like holding her purse, and he's like, I don't want

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Speaker 10: to be in the recruitula holding your purse and she

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Speaker 10: and I was like thinking to myself as I'm watching it, like, yeah,

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Speaker 10: don't make him do that, like, don't let him leave.

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Speaker 3: Don't let him leave. And then I'm so mad at myself.

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01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:12,839
Speaker 3: I think I texted you yeah.

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Speaker 10: And I was like, oh my god, why am I

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01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 10: rooting for the wrong thing? Is like, what the fuck

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01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 10: is wrong with me? That's how conditioned we are to.

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Speaker 3: Be, Like you have to give in, you have to

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01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 3: change yourself, lady.

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Speaker 10: And then she doesn't and they break up, and I

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Speaker 10: kept thinking at the end of the movie it was

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Speaker 10: like not gonna be you know that, So whatever, I

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01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:30,560
Speaker 10: Am going to fucking run the movie you, but you

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Speaker 10: watch it anyway.

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Speaker 8: But she's like, no, my boyfriend's amazing. He's like, but

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01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 8: he's like, I'm so so. He's so supportive of me,

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01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 8: loves everything. But he's like, please don't make me go Yeah, please,

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Speaker 8: I don't want to do it, but he I don't want.

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Speaker 3: You, but he like the publicity, Like he can stand

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01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 3: and holds your purse. He would, and he would prefer

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01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 3: to like not go right, you know what I mean

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01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 3: that he does so cool about that movie.

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Speaker 10: It was the very first wrong com I remember seeing

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Speaker 10: where she was like at the end, she doesn't change it.

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Speaker 10: She's like, fine, you're not down with this?

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Speaker 3: Fuck it?

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 10: She makes certain changes, like she listens to his advice

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01:33:58,479 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 10: and puts them into her career.

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Speaker 3: But she's like, I'm not. I'm not dimming down for

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Speaker 3: you either.

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Speaker 10: You're fool with hanging on to my purse because this

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01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 10: is who I am and this is what I do,

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Speaker 10: and you're gonna love me no matter what the fuck

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Speaker 10: I do, unconditionally or fuck it.

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Speaker 9: I'm better off alone and that is where I think

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Speaker 9: I'm at.

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Speaker 3: Min don't dim your life for anyone, right. I want

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Speaker 3: to have the relationship that she has with mescal or

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Speaker 3: I don't not with you too.

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Speaker 9: You know, I'm good. I'll find something else, but I

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01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:26,919
Speaker 9: don't want to join your relationship.

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01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 3: So we're clear.

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Speaker 10: But I mean, but yeah, I I just want that,

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Speaker 10: like if women should have what you know, what what

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01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 10: she has and what I think other people, Well.

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Speaker 3: You know what, it took me long. I'm not going

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01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 3: to long time to figure it out too. So it's

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Speaker 3: it did not It was not easily earned. Ladies.

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Speaker 9: I'm telling you, I'm seeing the happy.

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Speaker 3: You too can be a complete.

2267
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Speaker 10: Disaster because somehow figure out how to make bad choices and.

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Speaker 3: Be a good mom.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we wrapped back around true podcasters, we're human, we

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Speaker 6: are well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys, thank you and talking about I feel

2272
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 3: like this is five episodes that we just didn't want

2273
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 3: west around. Welcome to our show.

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Speaker 10: I love it.

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01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 3: Can you let our listeners know where they can find you.

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01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 3: You're on all right?

2277
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 10: I see I don't remember it, and so I put

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01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 10: it all in her, but then she fus it up. Yeah,

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01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 10: then I fuck it up on Facebook and Instagram. It's

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01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 10: at never thought i'd say this on Twitter. I don't

2281
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:42,600
Speaker 10: even know anymore Twitter. We've given up like, I'm just

2282
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 10: over it.

2283
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 3: I can't do it.

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01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 10: So Instagram and Facebook is where we're activity and active,

2285
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 10: and then our email. You can email us at never

2286
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 10: thought I'd at ProtonMail dot com.

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01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, and then you can follow each of us.

2288
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 8: And listen to the pod. It comes out on Wednesdays.

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01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 8: All kinds of inappropriate ship.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: So happy to have you, and make sure you follow

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Speaker 18: us on Instagram, Good Mom's Underscore, Bad Choices, and come

2293
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 18: to our website Go moms by choices dot com.

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Speaker 3: Sign up for the newsletter. We have all cool types

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01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,600
Speaker 3: of lead ups. We have a live show coming up

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01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 3: in Atlanta on October thirteen. That's a Sunday, and we'll

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01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 3: see you next week. Bride Night ju on the best

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Speaker 3: you never had, On the best you never had? Ye aye,

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Speaker 3: my little.

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Speaker 4: Baby, change your break start don't know much done, yill

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Speaker 4: work if you won't dis.

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Speaker 5: Your rope supercise come my little bank, change your life

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Speaker 5: desert

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah I oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah

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Speaker 3: yeah