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Speaker 1: Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Ladies,

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Speaker 1: Good morning, welcome to the program. How are you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning program? Huh that sounds serious the program.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw, I say it sometimes, But what's going

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Speaker 1: on with this guy Noah? We want to help you

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Speaker 1: out on waiting by the phone. You feel like maybe

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Speaker 1: you're being ghosted? Tell us kind of everything. How did

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Speaker 1: you guys meet? I want to hear about any dates

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Speaker 1: you've been on, any details you want to share, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to try and figure this out.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you? So, Yeah, I met Noah through

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Speaker 2: this indoor volleyball league. We both joined this winter, one

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Speaker 2: of them, one of the sports like.

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Speaker 3: Social club companies. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I just kind of wanted to do something active

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Speaker 2: being that it was colder outside and uh not for nothing,

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Speaker 2: but I heard there were a lot of single men there,

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Speaker 2: so why not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people do that at volleyball.

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Speaker 1: They have like softball leads, you can sign up for

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Speaker 1: soccer stuff. Yeah right, and it's all just guys is

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Speaker 1: like being active.

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Speaker 3: But let's face it, people trying to.

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Speaker 2: Get some Yeah, I mean, yeah, fade right, It's all good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little too lazy for that. But still

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Speaker 1: I gotta go kick the ball the meats that come.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, no, I'm good, But then you can

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Speaker 2: go you can go to the trivia meat groups.

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Speaker 1: I mean you also have to leave the house for that.

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Speaker 1: But I just I'm just holding one day. My doordask

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Speaker 1: driver is the hottest person I've ever seen, male or

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Speaker 1: female at this point, just whatever, ok yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: Engaging in his door desk career. Okay, so you you

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Speaker 3: joined on.

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Speaker 2: A door to side note, have you been getting male names?

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Speaker 2: And then a female shows up? Or female names? And

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Speaker 2: then a male shows up keeps hopping to this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that actually makes me a little nervous side note

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Speaker 1: because it's like, wells, whose account is this registered?

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Speaker 3: Like why can't you deliver? Who is the person who

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Speaker 3: actually is showing up? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I act he asked the guy the other day and

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Speaker 2: he said it was his mom's.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's like, why were you? Okay, so you you

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Speaker 1: joined this league to meet a person and then what happens?

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Speaker 2: I mede a person I met Noah And it was

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Speaker 2: after a few weeks there and we started talking about

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Speaker 2: getting a drink after volleyball, and we did, and I

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Speaker 2: really well because we planned a second date, which was

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Speaker 2: more drinks and dinner and uh again, I say, and dinner,

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Speaker 2: and that went really really well. So we went back

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Speaker 2: to his place, we had some fun, and then uh,

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Speaker 2: Noah built the arc and rode away into the sunset.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so after two days and a hookup, you never

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Speaker 1: heard from him again. He never called it, I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: and you rushed down and it was.

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Speaker 2: More I'm sorry to cut you off. It was kind

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Speaker 2: of more of like a fade away. It wasn't just

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Speaker 2: then eventually stopped. So I don't know what the deal is.

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Speaker 2: This was not like a random saying we like really

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Speaker 3: Then hooked up.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like one of those things where we just

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, and after two dates and all the

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Speaker 1: rest of it, So here's what we're gonna do. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna call Noah in just a second. He'll be on

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Speaker 1: the phone list. At the same time. We're gonna ask

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Speaker 3: Sound good?

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Speaker 2: Awesome? Thank you so much, guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what's going on in part two of Waiting

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Speaker 1: Fred Show.

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Speaker 1: Show on demand and make us a pre set. Please,

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Speaker 1: Hey Liz, I'm here. All right, let's call Noah. You guys,

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Speaker 1: you went on a couple of dates. You met actually

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Speaker 1: You meet this guy, you going two dates. The last

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Speaker 1: date you hooked up, you thought everything was really headed

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Speaker 3: That sums it up pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all.

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Speaker 3: Right, well, let's call him now. Good luck, Liz.

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Speaker 1: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Is this Noah? Hey? No, hey a, Hi, good morning.

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Speaker 3: My name is Fred.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the morning radio show,

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Speaker 1: and I have to tell you that we are on

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Speaker 1: the radio right now and I would need your permission

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Speaker 1: to continue with the call. Can which have for just

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Speaker 1: a second? You can hang up anytime? Yeah, I guess yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you Noah. We're calling on behalf of a woman

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Speaker 1: named Liz, who I guess you met. You were playing

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Speaker 1: sports together. There were a volleyball and you went on

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Speaker 1: a couple of dates. You remember, Liz, I do, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So she called us that, Oh well, hold on, I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to tell you where we're at here. She

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Speaker 1: the couple of dates that you guys have been on,

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Speaker 1: but says that you haven't reached out since. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious and maybe you maybe you knew what

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, But you know, why is that?

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Speaker 3: Are you ghosting her?

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Speaker 4: I think, first of all, let's just start here. It's

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Speaker 4: especially for her. Oh she's we we we did meet

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Speaker 4: Now these two spend time together, they go to family

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Speaker 1: So so Noah, you you're getting to know Liz. You

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Speaker 1: out they did. They did date, but they still do

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Speaker 4: Eleven years, eleven years and so the eleven years and.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like they're still dating. It kind of sounds

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Speaker 1: that way. But she describes as man as her ex.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so she's got this guy in her life that

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Speaker 4: does everything with her. What does she need Noah for?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, what does she need Noah for?

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Speaker 1: In the third person, I would I agree, what does

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Speaker 3: And here to answer that question is Liz. I forgot

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Speaker 1: You left Ali the ex of eleven That is a

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Speaker 3: You left that out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, first of all, I can't believe

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Speaker 3: No it is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, a girl can't be close friends with a guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, well, well I have so

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Speaker 2: You know, He's always going to be a staple in

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Speaker 2: It's not for us. I mean I bet a hundred

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Speaker 1: Conversations well, I mean honestly, if it was a woman

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Speaker 1: And so another person comes along and they're like, wait

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I just I understand to a degree.

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Speaker 2: But it's just like something you got to get over.

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Speaker 2: Like they'll meet, they'll hang out, and he'll realize this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the met's going to be in your bed by

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Speaker 3: ten pm. Because why are you sharing bay? I'm gay

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Speaker 3: and I don't sleep in a bout with another many

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Speaker 3: of them? Why see in your bad at it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know struggles for cuddles?

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Speaker 2: Man? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: It is physical.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I would argue that's more intimate than other

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Speaker 1: things that you could do in bed.

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Speaker 3: I mean I could.

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Speaker 2: Live teddy bear, you know. I mean I've heard this

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Speaker 1: But huh, it's it's it's the level of intimacy though,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's the lack of boundaries. Like if I'm

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna like? Why is this other person?

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Speaker 1: Why there are no boundaries? That's that's a.

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Speaker 2: Friend, it's my best friend. I mean, if you wants

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Speaker 1: Best friends that don't cuddle with you in bed at

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's literally like sleeping with my dog.

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Speaker 3: I did not date my dog for eleven years. You know,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's also a dog. It's not a human

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Speaker 1: And I guess I'm just surprisedly is that you can't

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Speaker 3: It's not you.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like, I don't know, I feel I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it would ever work out if

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Speaker 2: Matt knew that you didn't approve anyway, So no.

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Speaker 1: So Matt, Matt gets the best friend, gets to make

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Speaker 2: Matt, well, I didn't get to make the decision, but

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Speaker 3: Vote in who you date my best friend?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, your ex boyfriend gets a vote in who

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Speaker 1: you date next while he's in bed with you. Look,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it works for you, that's fine, but

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Speaker 3: A lot of better work everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can beat Mad. Do the interview prize, go

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Speaker 4: Nails pulled for my body?

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Speaker 3: Oh, be more clear? Wow, that's aggressive. That's okay. So

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Speaker 3: that's a no for Noah.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: Look, I wish you the best of lucked.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like you had a great friendship, and I hope

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Speaker 1: of them? Okay, Noah, we got we've heard enough from you.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's just hope, Liz, Yeah, Voe is going to

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Speaker 2: Right, find another place to play.

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Speaker 3: It's cool, all right. Thank you both for your time.

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Speaker 3: Best of luck to both of you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, f