1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Like a challenge period. There a no just part of teamwork. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: We did the same thing yesterday. I just did in 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: the red zone. So I did two's on two threes 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: on threes. I thought, go ahead. Michael Thomas out there curious. Ah, 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: he's involved with some league business. Ah. Excused by the way. 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: I obviously looked a really good practice, But it seems 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: like he'd even raised his game high level in the games. 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Can you evaluate that factor in a certain guys maybe 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: quite better when the lights are on. Uh, yeah, I 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: mean that's a good thing. Obviously. We want to make 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: sure they perform well in games, period. So there are 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: some guys that through the years I've been around that 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: are just absolutely horrible practice players, and they can turn 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: it on for the game. You know, you're certainly looking 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: for consistency. You sleep better at night when the guy 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: practiced as well, you know, And and so that's it's 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: just part of it, I guess. But the the the 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: end of the deal, you want him to play well 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: in games. Yeah. No, he's been doing individuals and we're 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: gonna move them back in there as quickly as we can. 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's good to have him back out there. 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: What did you see from some of the guys who've 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: been bumped up and no balance. I took some first 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: team maps in Antonio Hamilton's um how valuable was the 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: time for them and what did you see from them? 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: And I think very, very very valuable. Um. Again, we 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: get to evaluate them in game settings and you know 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: they're finding a way to make plays, get around the ball, 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: um become more and more comfortable within the scheme, you know, 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: and it's you can see we can see I don't 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: know if it's obvious with the naked eye that you know, 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: when we play a certain defense week one, we play 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: that same defense week two, even though there may not 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: be any action his way, you can see him, you know, 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: his his movements a little bit more fluid, He's a 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: little closer to where he needs to be. He's in 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: issue to make it play if it comes that way. 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: So that's the benefit of young players playing is you know, 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: we get to see them to do that. Now. You know, 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: there's times when you know there's no action, but you 41 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: still got to be in the right spot. And and 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: you see some of these guys that are getting more 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: reps than they maybe would have if the guys in 44 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: front of him were healthy, making progress in those ways, 45 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying big thing for him, what sort of on 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: field progress that I think he's more comfortable. He probably 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: goes into ELI category. He's more comfortable with what we 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: want to do. Um, we've really defined how we want 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: to use him as a coaching staff. And UM so 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: those are probably the two main areas you have to 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: get to know him. And still, no, I think we 52 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: had a feeling last year, but he was kind of 53 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: hindered by his injuries. So you know, there's no there's 54 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: not a real process of that when you're in the lineup, 55 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: out of the lineup, in the lineup, and then out 56 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: of the lineup. So but we're obviously starting much further 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: ahead than where we were a year ago. A year 58 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: ago at this time, he took a lot of knocks 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: outside for his blocking when he did play last year. 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Was he a much better, much improved blocker. I think so. Yeah. 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: I think he improved his game in all areas, and 62 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: you know that just comes with learning a new system 63 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: and and obviously getting comfortable with what we're doing to 64 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: play him in the preseason. Was that simply he was 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: hurt part of the time last year, you want to 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: keep him healthier. No, it's just my call. You know, 67 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: It's just I think there's things you're looking for from 68 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: your team, but then there's I think we're always keeping 69 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: in mind what's important for the individual as he gets 70 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: himself ready to play within the team concept. So that's 71 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: my call, call and plays. This week, you'll be going 72 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: against a guy who was on your staff last year, 73 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: and it does that present and it's not necessary about 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: winning the game, but for evaluation purposes anything there he 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: knows your playbook from last year. Not really, I would 76 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: say this and this will be the case. None of 77 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: us have only coached in one spot. Talking to my 78 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: wife last night, you know, we've lived in nine houses, 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: seven states. So coach on a lot of teams. So 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: you coach with a lot of guys, and so you 81 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: all end up other places, and nine times out of ten, 82 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: when you go somewhere and you say, well I know 83 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: this guy, it screws you up. I really, I really 84 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: believe that. So you know that's not the deal. It's 85 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: gonna be the Bengals playing the Giants, and we just 86 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: happened to coach on on opposite sides, and you know, 87 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: it's obviously a preseason game, so we're not all showing 88 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: our our hand yet. UM, but you know, Lose doing 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: a great job. I like what they're doing on defense. 90 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: He was a really valued member of our staff when 91 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: he was here, and I look forward to seeing him 92 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: before the game. Off him and that kind of jumped 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: out of you. What do you like about himself? Well, 94 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: I think he's been very competitive, very multiple. You know, 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: he played, you know, he's played stretches at right tackle 96 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: and left tackle and back and forth. And in the 97 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: event he makes our team and he's not a starter, 98 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: that's going to be an important component to his game, 99 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: being able to be multiple um, and he competes, and 100 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: he's out there, and you know, when he's out there 101 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: and he's competing and he's doing way more good things 102 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: than bad things, then we start to depend on him. 103 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's when we start to like a guy. 104 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: And and that's certainly where we're at with him. When 105 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: you look at um roster is going to be composed. 106 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: Does Penny get lumped in with all the running backs 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: as he's sort of his own category. Well, if you 108 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: ask him, he'll tell you he's a converted halfback. Just 109 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: ask him. He's fond of that. Um, you know, he's 110 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: a fullback. But the one thing about him is it 111 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, if we have a dire situation, he can 112 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: go in there and run the football. And so just 113 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: ask him. He'll tell you. I'm very fond of him 114 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: because he's one of the people in this building that, 115 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: in my opinion, has never had a bad day. He's 116 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: smiling and he may may have had a bad play 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: or a bad meal, but he's never had a bad day. 118 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: And uh, he's he's a little bit of an inspiration 119 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: to me because he just keeps going, loves the game 120 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: and keeps playing and you know, he's done some good 121 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: stuff for us. We know. The experience factor curious just 122 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: from a football perspective, How different does he make you 123 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: guys in the back end this year as opposed to maybe, 124 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: good God this Well, the veteran component is huge because, um, 125 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: he's steady and experienced and he's obviously seen a lot 126 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: of things. And so if you have a guy in 127 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: the back a can that's um, then they're done that 128 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: and it is confident and as experienced. You know, I 129 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: think that's good for your defense. So if they defense 130 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: or an offense shows us something we haven't seen. He'll 131 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: be able to help us adjust. He's been with Betch 132 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: in the past, so there's some familiarity there. I think 133 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: he I really believe safeties come in pairs, and I 134 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: think he and Jabrille are working well together, and so um. 135 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: There's probably a long list of things, but just a 136 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: stream of thought, that's what comes to mind. And it 137 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: seems like the last few practices have leave a little 138 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: bit more towards the ones and stuffing having starters because 139 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: will that impact lay time on Furday night or Yeah, 140 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I I see myself generally speaking, I 141 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: see us playing the game a lot like we did 142 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: the first two. You know, I still think we've got 143 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: some guys that are in the second and third group 144 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: we gotta see, you know, so we gotta see him play, 145 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: and then, you know, I think let's see the ones 146 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: a little bit too, you know, maybe more than a 147 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, I think. But no, in terms 148 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: of practice, this is a good little stretch here. So 149 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: we had the game on when we play Friday, right, 150 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: we were off Saturday. Yesterday was a very physical hot practice. 151 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: Took advantage of the heat today, and we did some 152 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: good situational work that was very physical in the heat. 153 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: So very very important these two practices. Um, just in 154 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: the big picture getting ultimately fifty three guys ready to 155 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: play Day one. So UM, that won't have as much 156 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: of a bearing on what I do Thursday night, as 157 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: it's just an important thing to do this time of camp. 158 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: I won't decided. I'll let it reveal itself. You're the 159 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: third person this week that's asked me that question, so 160 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be fair to the first two. Are you 161 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: giving us ad a book this season? No, not really. UM, 162 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: I just haven't shaved, not much thought put into it. No, 163 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: the advantages are we need to you know, there's extra conditioning, 164 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, the pressure that you know you put on 165 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: your body dealing with the heat. You know, we're gonna 166 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: play some hot games earlier in the year. I know 167 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: we're inside against Dallas, but earlier in the year we're 168 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: gonna play in Tampa, and God only knows what the 169 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: weather is like around here. I mean it could be 170 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: ninety one day, forty the next, could get rain, snow, sleep, 171 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I think it's important, especially for the 172 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: first half of the really the first five or six 173 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: weeks to have had some heat conditioning, and that's why 174 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: this this was a little blessing, I think for us, 175 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: this kind of extreme heat the last two days, and 176 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: the guy's handled it pretty well. Yeah, yeah, well he 177 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: he's just uh, he was a little under the weather today. 178 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: He's fine under the