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Speaker 1: to episode to Shay from Dan and Shay, which we

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Speaker 1: are these are? Well? I guess kind of for you maybe,

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00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,760
Speaker 1: but hasn't seen the final movie or no, no, no,

426
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,520
Speaker 1: not the final movie. This happens in like like oh,

427
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,399
Speaker 1: like in the you know, seventies or whatever, whenever the

428
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 1: first movies came out, he like he dies and then

429
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't really yeah, and then it's just kind of

430
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,000
Speaker 1: he's just alive again. Yeah. Do you can you go

431
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,400
Speaker 1: to the movies with that people stopping you? Yeah? Yeah,

432
00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's it kind of depends like what theater,

433
00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,120
Speaker 1: like where we are. If I go back home, like

434
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 1: and people would you know they kind of know that

435
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,919
Speaker 1: I'm home, then it can be a little bit of

436
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,399
Speaker 1: a like everybody knows that you know I'm there, but

437
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,439
Speaker 1: people are super sweet, you know. Can you go to

438
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 1: the movie theater with its yeah, Like I mean like

439
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 1: usually like, well, we'll get stopped a couple of times,

440
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,199
Speaker 1: especially for something for some reason. If I'm like with

441
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 1: Hannah because people kind of follow her to that's more

442
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 1: of like an indicator if Dan and I are together

443
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 1: than people really like yeah. But if it's just like

444
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 1: if I'm just out somewhere, people aren't like because people

445
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 1: aren't really expecting to see anyone that they would know ever,

446
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 1: so they're not like looking around like analyzing. Like when

447
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 1: in a second, I went to a True Food kitchen

448
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 1: today to have lunch, and I was having a work

449
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 1: talk with somebody from my PR team. We're kind of

450
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: lining up some stuff and Sam Hunt walks in and

451
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 1: comes in just just sitting over there and grabs his

452
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,679
Speaker 1: food chill. He's Sam the Monster, a huge guy, big beard,

453
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 1: so way bad him, waves back, does the deal. He's

454
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 1: there for like ten minutes. Nobody says the word to him.

455
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,159
Speaker 1: Watch and I'm like, that's interesting. Nobody uh b K

456
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 1: from Florida Geor Line walks right in, walks up to

457
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 1: a table. I say, what up to? What dude? Could?

458
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: He sets down? Nobody he had had you know, boom um,

459
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 1: and it was just like saying and nobody kind of

460
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: it was just cool to see nobody mess anybody, especially here.

461
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: And and then I saw Tomas Struts manager, but so

462
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,919
Speaker 1: there was just a lot happening and nobody. I went

463
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 1: to dinner a couple of weeks ago at so not

464
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 1: a super fancy place, cool spot close to work, and

465
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 1: Reese Weatherspoon came in and it's her and her family,

466
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: they said, right in the middle. Nobody bothered him. I

467
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 1: just think it's cool. I would have bothered her probably

468
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 1: well before my rules. But my rule is you shouldn't

469
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: bother someone if they're with their kids or they're eating,

470
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: if they have food in front of them. If they're not,

471
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 1: they know they're famous, that's on them. They wanted to

472
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 1: get famous. You should go say hi if you want

473
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: to say hi, and never be ashamed to be a

474
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 1: fan of somebody. But if there's food or a kid involved,

475
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 1: I think it should be like a written rule. If

476
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: you're eating or if you're with your kids, and even

477
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: like it doesn't like bother me insanely if someone comes

478
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 1: like because we'll go out to eat, Like there's a

479
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: Mexican restaurant that's by my house, it's like our favorite spot.

480
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 1: We always go there, and usually if I'm with with them,

481
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: like they're people will wait until like we're done eating

482
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: and it's really funny to watch people, which is like

483
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't, Like do you ever do you

484
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: do you find yourself like very hyper aware of people,

485
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: Like I'm so I can hardly like really when we

486
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: go out and I'm in a place where I just

487
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: know there's something in like the room that shifts if

488
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 1: if someone does recognize you, if if we're going out

489
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: with like a nicer restaurant, we're like, I have my

490
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: hair all spiked. I usually just like where a hat,

491
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: but if I have like my hair spiked up, it's

492
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: like a better chance that someone might be like, who's

493
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: what that guy's hairs looks weird, so he might be

494
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: in Nashville. So it's kind of funny. I'll be watching

495
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: like around the room, and I could always tell when

496
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: someone's like kind of just looking over like I think

497
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: that I think that might be What kind of got

498
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: me was people would take pictures and I wouldn't know,

499
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware for a while, like who cares about me?

500
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: And you'd see them later. But then people would post

501
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 1: pictures and they tag me if me like just looking

502
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: awkward or that's that's the worst. And I would be

503
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: like I would love to take a picture. Stay hi,

504
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: so I don't look mostly for my sakes, I don't

505
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: look stupid on your Instagram, Like, come say hi to me.

506
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: I would love to take a picture with you because

507
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: I love I love being out when people will come

508
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: up and they say something like I love that people

509
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: are like, like you said, this is something that we

510
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: got into. It's not like I'm just like hungry for

511
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: the attention, but like it's I want them to like

512
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: if they're there and they're a fan, like I'd love

513
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: to meet them and feel appreciated and feel appreciated because

514
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,239
Speaker 1: what you do without without people that music or come

515
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 1: to shows, yeah, and people that like they hide it

516
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: like this happened. Actually, reasonaid that same Mexican restaurant I'm

517
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: talking about, and it kind of and I could I knew,

518
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 1: like the table that there was like two tables around us,

519
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: and they just they were super sweet, like I just

520
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: love your music, so thank you so much. We're there

521
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: for probably like twenty minutes and we're eating and I

522
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: kind of noticed this lady at the bar and she

523
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: was just you just it was all over her face.

524
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: It was like all she was thinking about was like

525
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: when it's a good time. It's like, go over there.

526
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: And I wanted to, like, look, I didn't because you

527
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: don't want to assume and be like when she come

528
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: over and she's like, no, my my husband's here with

529
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: someone else, I'm just spying on them. It's fine. I

530
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: don't know why that was the example. That wasn't what

531
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: was happening with this lady. But I watched her and

532
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: all the tables and our friends that were with us

533
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: watch all of this go down, because she gets up

534
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: and she walks all the way to the bathroom, and

535
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: what feels like a half a mile of her walking,

536
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 1: she has her phone like this, like like people just

537
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: like like she's texting, but it's like right up against

538
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: her chest, and I'm just like, we all see you.

539
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: And I kind of like pointed at the camera, you know,

540
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: just like it. And I thought like for sure she'd

541
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: get in the bathroom and look at it and be like,

542
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I'm so embarrassed and come over and

543
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: be like I'm sorry. I didn't me to like film you.

544
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: She comes back and like everybody around the table is like,

545
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, that woman was like filming you, right, And

546
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: I was like I saw then she comes back and

547
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: does the same thing the whole way back. The films

548
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: all the way back, never comes over, never says anything,

549
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: And that's that's the weirdest to me. Let's make a

550
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: statement here together, because I tried to say it a lot.

551
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: I would love to take a picture with you as

552
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: long as I'm like being with my kids that no

553
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: one knows about my secret kids. Yeah, like Ben, yes,

554
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: John Ken I it's a compliment to me. But you're right.

555
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: Sometimes when someone's holding their phone and they're holding it

556
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: just a little two pointy like it's like we know, yeah,

557
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: I know. I would love to take a picture like

558
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: you don't text like this? Yeah, Like there's a certain

559
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: way you hold the phone, and that's what that's for sure.

560
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: Not it so natural? Damn was how many people? Five eleven? Wow?

561
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: Good for you. I'm seven hundred mount seven. You guys

562
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: are well. I honestly don't think like it says five

563
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven. But that's been there since I've been

564
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: a kid, and I know for a fact that there's

565
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: there can't be unless there are people that are literally

566
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: living underground. I've never seen five people there, maybe like

567
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: maybe two hundred. I've never seen them in Natural Damn.

568
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: What school did you go to? I had to go

569
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: so for a while I went to a school and

570
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: Fort Smith you Christian, Yeah, that was and it was

571
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: River Valley at the time, so I had to drive.

572
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: It was kind of it took like fifty minutes to

573
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: get to school because there was there was Cedarville High

574
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: School and nothing against Cedarville, but at the time, it

575
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: was just like it just wasn't a great place to

576
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: go to school, and it was just kind of there's

577
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: a lot of just stuff going on there. My parents

578
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: were just like, yeah, we don't think that that's necessarily

579
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,239
Speaker 1: where we're gonna send our kids. But now it's got

580
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: a lot better. Now there's you know, there's a lot

581
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: of great schools kind of around there. But I ended

582
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: up graduating from Van Buren High School, which was like

583
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: probably twenty minutes from Natural dam So it wasn't bad.

584
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: But growing up that was a long drive and at

585
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: homeschool until I was like fifth fifth grade. What kid

586
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: were you in high school? What were you known as?

587
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: Shay is the were you the singer did? Yeah? Yeah,

588
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: I think yeah, a little great that people knew most

589
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: about you was what probably honestly more that I was

590
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: kind of like the funny guy I would say, because

591
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: I didn't like sing a ton I did. Like I

592
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: was definitely kind of known for that, but I was.

593
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: I was definitely the class clown. I would say, um,

594
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, I did sing at like events, like randomly,

595
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: I would do like we had chapel. It was a

596
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: Christian school, So I would sing in chapel. Shot like

597
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: people that you were so good because you didn't do

598
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: it all the time. Oh yeah, sometimes. I remember when

599
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: I came to school because I started like halfway through

600
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: fifth grade, and so I remember I I like, they

601
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: asked me to sing at chapel, and I was like

602
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: my first I had been I had sang in church

603
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: and like, you know, done that whole thing. But that

604
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: was like my first like real world at school. It

605
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: was like halfway through the year and I came in

606
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: singing at chapel. It's my moment I felt I felt

607
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: really good. At what age did you go, Oh, I'm

608
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: not just good for hearing a small town. I'm actually

609
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: good enough to go and try something outside of what

610
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm accustomed to. Yeah, man, honestly, I was. I was

611
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: probably I was eight years old when we first started

612
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: coming to Nashville because we would make these little trips

613
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: because I would sing with my sisters. I have two

614
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: older sisters, eric As the oldest, and then Gabby um,

615
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: and we would sing. We would travel around and like

616
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of for fun, we go to

617
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: churches and do the whole deal. Um. And when I

618
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: was about eight, we came to Nashville, and at that

619
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: point I kind of told my dad like, I'm I

620
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: wanna this is like what I want to do. That

621
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: was just like I didn't know that I was like

622
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: people would. I think people a lot of times I

623
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: kind of assumed that I was like this, I don't

624
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: want to say like prodigy, but like was like always

625
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: insanely good at singing and was just like that wasn't

626
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: necessarily the case. We just everyone in my family did it.

627
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: And I think just for the sheer fact that I

628
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: was young, people would be like, oh, he's like he's

629
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: really good. But we were in small you know, this

630
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: was small towns, so it's kind of like I would

631
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: take it as as a grain assault. I think my

632
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: parents would too, like they knew I was, you know,

633
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: pretty good, but I don't know that it was this

634
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be your career kind of thing that kind

635
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: of came honestly later, and I did it. You know,

636
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: I was coming to Nashville since I was eight, but

637
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't I never knew. There wasn't a ton of

638
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: people that were just like this is undeniable, Like they

639
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: knew that I was good. But it wasn't until I

640
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: was a little bit older where we had a couple

641
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: of people be like, you should you guys could do this,

642
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: But it was never I don't know, you go to

643
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: college for a year, right, yeah, and then you go,

644
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I need to go to do music. Yeah,

645
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: what was the point in going to school? Where it clicked?

646
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: Was like it's gonna be tough, but I gotta get

647
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: out of school. And I actually it wasn't even a

648
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: real It wasn't actually a school. It was actually a

649
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: ministry school. So I went there. It was like a

650
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: nine month program and I had a full ride to

651
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: go to like a music school. And I decided right

652
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: before because my sister Gabby had decided she was gonna

653
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: go up to Pittsburgh to go to this like nine

654
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: month you know program, and I was just like, I

655
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: kind of wanna, I'm gonna go with you. I'm gonna

656
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: do this, And it was kind of that I wasn't

657
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: quite sure what I was gonna do with my life.

658
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: I was about to graduate, and I didn't want to

659
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: go to school for something that I already felt like

660
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: I was. I didn't think I was gonna like learn

661
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: and if I was going for like engineering or something

662
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: like that, which is probably what I would have done,

663
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: I just I didn't want to go to school for

664
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: like performance major, you know, and like learn how to sing.

665
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: I just felt like that wasn't really the vibe. And

666
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: so yeah, I kind of took that that nine months

667
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: and lived in Pittsburgh. Um, and then right after that

668
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: I moved back home, which is when kind of the

669
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: whole tea pain thing happened. Which is an interesting thing too,

670
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: because when you can really sing, you can also kind

671
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: of pick where you sing. Yeah. Even I give Garth

672
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: as an example, he was singing rock songs. Yeah, he was,

673
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, he was kind of finding his place early. Um.

674
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: So how do you get discovered by because what was

675
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: it called, what was the paint was called nappy boy?

676
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: Nappy Boy? How do you get hooked up with them?

677
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: How do they see you? What are the steps that

678
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: led you to go there? Because did you move to

679
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: Atlanta for a while. I did move to Atlanta, so

680
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: I was so I lived in Pittsburgh and my sister

681
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: was she had this uh she was super good. She

682
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 1: a good dancer, like she was a choreographer and Tylla's

683
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: stuff and she was had met this guy named Mike

684
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: who was actually a backup dancer for Tea Pain, and

685
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: so we kind of all were hanging out there for

686
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: a little while. And um, long story short, we get

687
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: back to Arkansas after you know, a school after the

688
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: nine months, and we're there and I just randomly get

689
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: like a text, was like, hey, what are you doing.

690
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: I knew he had work with Tea Paint, and I

691
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: guess he had sent some YouTube video online to Ta

692
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: Pain and I was and I was at Van Buren actually,

693
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: and I was in a movie I'll never forget this,

694
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: and I like he was like, hey, like he wants to, like,

695
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, FaceTime you or whatever, and I was just

696
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: like I was in this movie and I didn't have

697
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: any service, and I was like, I was like, this

698
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: is the craziest thing. Ever, So I go out of

699
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: the movie and my friend was like the manager watching

700
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: and was watching him. Did you think he was like

701
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: I thought he was like Arkansas heard of This movie

702
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: was called hot Rod. It was like this little project

703
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: I was working on. So you leave the theater, Yeah,

704
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: so I leave it. So I walked outside and I

705
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: didn't have any WiFi and this service wasn't good enough,

706
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: so I had to get on WiFi. I think it

707
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: was a FaceTime call. I can't remember if that was

708
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: even a thing then, but either way, I didn't have

709
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: any service. I had to like go get on the WiFi.

710
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: So my friend was the manager there and like gave

711
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: me the WiFi. Bassard and I'm in like this back

712
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: room at the movie theater like face timing or whatever,

713
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: tea pain and he was like, hey, I want you

714
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: to come to Memphis, like we're playing a show. There

715
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: was him and Chris Brown. I want you to come,

716
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, play with us and and do this whole deal.

717
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: So I was just like, yeah, all right, let's just

718
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: do this whole deal. Mean, I didn't have no idea.

719
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: To this day, I don't know what that meant. You know,

720
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: those moments like you get the call and you're just like, yeah,

721
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: whatever it is, I'm down. And that got me into

722
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble probably at some points in my life.

723
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: Like whatever that is, I'm doing it. So do you

724
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 1: go to Memphis? I did. I went to Memphis, and

725
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: I by yourself, but because you don't know what's happening, like,

726
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: oh that's crazy. Who actually was not a thing that

727
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: I guess, but my sister Gabby, she she drove me

728
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: up there. So I drove up there with her. We

729
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: went to the show and met with him and basically

730
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: go on the bus afterwards, and I think it was

731
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: like Tea Pain and his wife and and Mike and

732
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: all these people, and I'm just like singing and just

733
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: he was like I want to I wanna sign you,

734
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, And I didn't know what that. I just heard,

735
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna sign you. I didn't know what

736
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: that entailed at the time or what that even, you know,

737
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: looked like it. Yeah, they ended up, you know, because

738
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I was writing even when I was with him. When

739
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: I end up signing to him, I moved to Roswell, Georgia,

740
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: which is out there, you know, just a suburb of Atlanta.

741
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: And I started writing all kinds of stuff. I mean

742
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: I had been writing like country, and I've been writing

743
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: pop and been writing like R and B like all

744
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. But I knew that I wanted

745
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: to do country. And that's what That's kind of how

746
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: he the song that he had even heard me covering, um,

747
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: I think was a country song, and so he was like,

748
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, this is what I want you to do.

749
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: This is oh Blood. And basically what I did for

750
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: those that year and a half that I lived in

751
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: Atlanta was just go into the studio every day until

752
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: like five in the morning and just like right two

753
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: beats and and everything else. And it was just kind

754
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: of a I don't know, it's kind of one of

755
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: those just kind of honing my craft moments of like

756
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: I didn't really get anywhere, Like there wasn't we didn't

757
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: release any music or anything like that. Um, what was

758
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: his goal with you? I don't know, I'm not sure. Uh,

759
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: the the overall goal, you know that was kind of

760
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: like pitch to me was we want to sign you

761
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: too major, you know, we want to get you to

762
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: Nashville at some point. But so there was country music

763
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: in mind for you even though it was tea pain yeah,

764
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: and we all go oh hip hop R and B yeah.

765
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: And it was kind of one of those things that

766
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: I didn't even have, like my sound. I didn't really

767
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: know what I was doing either. I was just writing

768
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: songs and I had all these you know, songs that

769
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: I was writing that wasn't necessarily I mean, they were

770
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: like fine, but it just it hadn't My identity was

771
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: not found yet, you know. I just didn't really know

772
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 1: what I was doing. So it's kind of somewhere in there. Um,

773
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: it's hard to put unless I looked at the timeline.

774
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: It's hard to put all this stuff into a timeline. Um.

775
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: But I remember there was a moment when I was there.

776
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: I was just like, what, we haven't put out any music.

777
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: We're not doing anything. I have no idea. There was

778
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: not really The contract I signed was a three sixty

779
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: and I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't

780
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: have a lawyer at the time, so I signed this

781
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: ridiculous deal. Um. And I think it was all good

782
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: intentions on all parties, but I ended up at some

783
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 1: point being like I've got to go to Nashville, Like

784
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: I just have to get there. So I was getting

785
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean I had no money because I was getting

786
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: paid you know, whatever it was. I think I think

787
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: I was getting paid maybe like it was like fifteen

788
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for two thousand or fifteen hundred dollars for like,

789
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, per month to like live on and stuff.

790
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: But I was having to pay like five dollars for

791
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: my you know, my rent in Atlanta, and then I

792
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: had to pay five off the top to like my

793
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: manager that was you know, this guy that had had

794
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, I had met in Pittsburgh. He was now

795
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: my my manager. And uh so it was a whole thing.

796
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: So I had about after I was moving to Nashville.

797
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: I was left with about like four hundred dollars to

798
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: like eat, like pay everything on after this and go

799
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: out and expect, like, you know, try to meet people

800
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: in Nashville, which four hundred dollars in a month is

801
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: not a lot of not a lot of spending cash.

802
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: How did you get out of the deal? Um? It

803
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: ended up? You know, when I met Dan, uh it

804
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: was a whole I mean there was a lot of

805
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: people that that kind of helped me get that out

806
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: of the deal. And you know, whenever we had we

807
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: had met, it became kind of like a oh man,

808
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: what's what's going to happen? Because this is this is

809
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: like a problem. I'm still in this this deal. Yeah, yeah,

810
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: but it was yeah, that that whole that was a

811
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: pretty rough a little time there for a little while

812
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: because it was a lot of there was a lot

813
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: of feelings, you know, feelings hurt on I think on

814
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: all sides because it was just this I don't know,

815
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: I want to go I don't want to go like

816
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: two into detail about it. But it was a rough

817
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: time I think in his life he was he was

818
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: going through a lot, and it was just kind of

819
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: I was just stuck. There was nobody to like talk to.

820
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: He had he had gone away to kind of deal

821
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: with some personal stuff, and yeah, it was just kind

822
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: of all right, well, I'm in this deal and we

823
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: got to try to figure out whenever we were talking

824
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: to these labels, it was like it kind of became

825
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: an issue because it rolled really fast. When Dan and

826
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: I met and we had kind of met with you know,

827
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: Jason Owen and Scooter and things were kind of rolling.

828
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: It was just like, well, this is this is a problem.

829
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: And I was like I was freaking out because I'm like,

830
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: this is a huge opportunity and we finally got something

831
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: wrong to something yeah that you can't get out of. Yeah,

832
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: and it was a full three sixty deal. You know.

833
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: It was like everything you're doing, have a piece of

834
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: not just music, but if you put out a shirt,

835
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: if you touring, everything, all of it. And it was, Yeah,

836
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: it was a rough time, but we ended up you

837
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: know really, you know, Scooter and Jason had a huge

838
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: part of of kind of getting me out of that deal.

839
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, man, it was it was a tough you

840
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: know start, you know, because it was just even on

841
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: that first record, like there was a lot being being

842
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: taken out, you know, and it was just kind of

843
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: like thankfully I didn't have you know, a family at

844
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: that time or no, you know, it's not like I was.

845
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: I wasn't completely broke. Whenever we had you know, Dan

846
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: and I had met and and finally exigned. You know,

847
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: we had like a lot more money than I had

848
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: to begin with us. It was enough to live on.

849
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: But they did a great job of kind of helping

850
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: me get out of that, and you know, Warner Brothers

851
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: and Es and all those guys. It was, Yeah, everybody's

852
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: really good. So so the legend of the fort, which

853
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: in different places we've talked about. But you guys met

854
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: in the living room for at a house which you've

855
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: been backed by. I've even seen you guys posted before.

856
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: Um Dan was living in that house. Yeah, and you

857
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: went over to the house I did, so I was

858
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: living on I was living with my buddy actually at

859
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: the time, UM I had I was, I was, I

860
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: think I was maybe I don't even remember how if

861
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: I even was paying him, but I was basically sleeping

862
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: on his couch for like a little while. His name

863
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: was Brandon Metcalf, great guy, and he had a studio

864
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: and I was like working a lot with him when

865
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: I had moved to Nashville and kind of had my place,

866
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: and um there was a guy named Andrew um that

867
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: just one night we had been writing a lot and

868
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: he told me he was like, Man, I'm going over

869
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: to these guys house. They had a band at the time.

870
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: He's like they're having a house party. Uh, you know,

871
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: you want to come with me? And I was just

872
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: like yeah, he sure, let's do it. And at that

873
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: time it was just kind of like any time you

874
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: could go somewhere without spending any money, and you knew

875
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: that there was like we knew that there was a

876
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: keg and I was like a braishment that's always chased.

877
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: Was like, do you think I got like pizza or

878
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: someone like? I haven't even like a couple of days,

879
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: but it was like, yeah, we showed up at this

880
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: house and little did I know that that it was

881
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: going to completely change my life. You guys start talking

882
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: that night. When was it that you said, Okay, we're

883
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: actually going to try something together, which means putting everything

884
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: else aside. There's a difference than going, hey, we should

885
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: do something together and going we're doing something together. I

886
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: would even say it's comparable to in that part of

887
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: a relationship where you're just dating and you go, we're

888
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: only dating each other now, yeah, so that means nothing

889
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: else can exist except us. What was that point where

890
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: you guys finally said we're just dating each other? Well,

891
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: it was not until just a couple of weeks ago.

892
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: We uh, it kind of happened. It happened really naturally

893
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: where Dan I started writing. Really, I think it was

894
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: either that next day or like the day after that

895
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: we had met. We were jam until probably like four

896
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: in the morning or something like that, and I think

897
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: we decided to write. So we get up the next

898
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: day and we go we met it like a Starbucks

899
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: or something, and then we ended up going to, Uh,

900
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: this this guy that I was Jesse Fraser. I'm sure

901
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: that I know many's been here love one of the

902
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: greatest guys. When I had for quick side side notes,

903
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: this all makes sense. Jesse. When I had first moved

904
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: to town, I had a friend and I asked him.

905
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: I was like, who is doing like beats? Because I

906
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: have been writing to a lot of beats. I've been

907
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: writing like country songs two beats, which is now like

908
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: a common thing, but it was just kind of becoming

909
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: a thing then, and I was like, who is a

910
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: great track guy in that in Nashville? And the first

911
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: name that he's that my friend was nash Over Street,

912
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: which is paulver Street songwriter. Uh, and he was like

913
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: Jesse Fraser. So I started writing with Jesse um a lot.

914
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: And then whenever Dan and I had met, I was like,

915
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: let's go right with with you know, with Jesse Fraser

916
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: or at at his place. So we ended up writing

917
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: our first writing session. I think we wrote two songs

918
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: that that day and one of them got put on

919
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: hold that night. But for Rascal Flats, so what, you

920
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: wrote a song that day. Yeah, they sent it out

921
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: maybe too Flats because they thought it's this it was

922
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: sensible for them. That night he got put on hold.

923
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: I think it was that night. Yeah, Like when we

924
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: got home, they were like, this is on hold for

925
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: Flats and for us, for like things things are heating up,

926
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: things are really really good at which, if you know,

927
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: you know what a hold is when they never cut

928
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: the song or anything like that. But for us, it

929
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: was just like it was legitimately, like Rascal Flats heard

930
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: our song. That was a huge and as small as

931
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: that you know, might seem now, you know, in our minds,

932
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: it still it was such a big deal because it

933
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: was you know, you have these big dreams when you're

934
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: coming to town, and it was kind of that first

935
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: taste of like whoa this is like somebody who's who

936
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: has done it, who is a successful artist, has they

937
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: liked our song and put on hold. So that was

938
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: a huge deal for us and that was kind of

939
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: the fuel to be like we should let's let's you know,

940
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: keep doing this because we liked you know what songs

941
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: are writing. Would you compare that early part of you

942
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: and Dan? And I don't mean this spacetiously at all,

943
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: but when you meet a girl, like when you and

944
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: Hannah meet and you're like, oh my god, this is it,

945
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: Like it's similar to that feeling, which as it was,

946
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: it was if you're brand of four in the morning,

947
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: that's what you do when you talk to all the

948
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 1: four in the morning. Yeah, I mean, I don't think

949
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: for either of us, we just were kind of it

950
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: wasn't it was different than when I met my wife,

951
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: because when I met Hannah, I literally told my friend

952
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: Benji Davis is a writer in town. He I told him,

953
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: like right then. It was in Arkansas. It's like our

954
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: first date. It was at George's Majestic Lounge, and I

955
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: like walked her out to her car and I got

956
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: back on the bus and I was like, I'm gonna

957
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: marry that girl, literally said like that night. But Dan,

958
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: it was like we were having fun writing these songs.

959
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: We didn't necessarily like we thought they were good, but

960
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: we didn't necessarily be like we're gonna make this is

961
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: We're not gonna or marry each other, but not Neither

962
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: one of those were on my mind, and I think

963
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: it just kind of happened naturally to where like we

964
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: thought the songs were good, but as you do, you

965
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: know when it's when it's your work. We thought it

966
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: was good, and it we knew. I think the most

967
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: exciting thing for us was there was an aha moment,

968
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: but it wasn't necessary like oh, we're gonna be a duo.

969
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: It was like, this is the kind of music that

970
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: I've been trying to write. This is all like everything

971
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: is kind of led to this, you know. It was

972
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: like the stuff that I had been wanting to write

973
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: but just couldn't. I hadn't quite found the sound yet.

974
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: So are you saying that when you two first started

975
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: it was like we found partners in creating more so

976
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: than we could go be a duo. It was exactly that.

977
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: It was like, oh man, this is like this is

978
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff. It was like better than any

979
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: of the stuff that I had been writing in town,

980
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: And I think for both of us it was just

981
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: kind of like, well, this is like we we got

982
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: something special here. So then how long until you decide

983
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: you're going to actually pursue the artist thing together? Yeah?

984
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: So we started to all these songs we've been writing,

985
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: because we we did start to write a lot together,

986
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: and so the more that we wrote, we would just

987
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: start doing like these writers rounds and like playing these

988
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: songs for our friends, and like our friends and everybody

989
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: were getting hype on these songs like this is the

990
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: greatest song. Like we were doing when we were in

991
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: five oh seven, Morton Avenue was the place. I can

992
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: say it because we've said it a million times. I'm

993
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: sure that the owner of that house hates us for

994
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: probably talking about all the time. Um, but it was

995
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: like I think we would go to that. We went

996
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: to the house one time I specifically remember, and I

997
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: think it was Pete Tracy who now does all of

998
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: our video stuff. It was his birthday and we remember

999
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: we shot like a fake music video for one of

1000
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: the songs because we love it was so good and

1001
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: it was just like it was just ridiculousness. We were

1002
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: having so much fun and it was just like, man,

1003
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: this this stuff is really cool. So we started to

1004
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: play all the all the music out like rounds and stuff,

1005
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: and then Dan and I we had eventually like there

1006
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: was actually an opportunity that we had to go down

1007
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: um and I had booked a show. It was just

1008
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: like Shane Mooney and we were opening up. We did

1009
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: two shows together without actually being like a band at all.

1010
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: It was just like he was there with me and

1011
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: we were playing all the songs we had written. And

1012
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: one was at Georgia's opening for Chris Allen and I

1013
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: thought that we I thought I made it. Then I

1014
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: was like this is you know, things are really starting

1015
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: to take off. And then another one we played was

1016
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: that in Conway um at at u c A. There

1017
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: was this kid who booked me, and I thought it

1018
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: was gonna be like the biggest show ever. And I

1019
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: think this. It was in there like little performing arts

1020
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: theater which probably holds like, I don't know, maybe people,

1021
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: and there was probably like fifteen people in there. And uh,

1022
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: right after that, we went down to Austin, Texas because

1023
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: my lawyer had set up this like, uh showcase basically

1024
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: for us, and we went down and we put together

1025
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: a band, the whole deal. Then I drive down on

1026
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: my truck and we ended up playing the show and

1027
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: it was I'm not kidding, there was There was honestly

1028
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: probably like four people in the room and one was

1029
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: my lawyer, one was like a bartender girl in the back.

1030
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: And then our friend Paul di Giovanni, which ended up

1031
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: writing how Not To for Us used to be in

1032
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: the band Boys Like Girls. He was there, and then

1033
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: Dan's lawyer and there was like no other people there.

1034
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: We rehearsed for like four days and we were we

1035
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be like our big break, and

1036
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: uh yeah it wasn't our big break, but at that

1037
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: time it was. I think on the way back from

1038
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: that trip, we kind of made the decision of, like

1039
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: we've been doing these shows together, like we should, we

1040
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: should kind of we should do a duo. And I

1041
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: think it's hard to kind of put all this in

1042
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: my mind to like line it up, but kind of

1043
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: when we were writing all these songs, um, there was

1044
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: a guy who had who knew he worked for Scooter

1045
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: Brun at the time. His name was Nano and he

1046
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: knew Scooter and he had kind of been talking to

1047
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: to Scooter, I guess about us, and uh yeah, during

1048
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: that time, Scooter ends up we're at a writing session

1049
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: and uh we had kind of decided like all right,

1050
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this this duo thing, and uh, once

1051
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: we kind of decided. That was when Scooter had heard

1052
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: about us and we were in a writing session at

1053
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: a guy named Danny Orton's house and there was he

1054
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: facetimes us and basically says like I wanna work with you,

1055
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: and uh, Ed Sharon was was there, which is really

1056
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: funny because he was like, well, you guys, play that

1057
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: song that I like. It was a song called stop

1058
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: Dropping Roll that was actually on our first record. We

1059
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: had like just written it and he was like, play

1060
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: that song. So we we played it and at the

1061
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: end he was like, my friend wants to hear the

1062
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: song because he really loves it because we had sent

1063
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: him maybe like a demo or something. And Ed Sharon

1064
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: like pops in and say, hey, guys, how are you.

1065
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: This is like the worst Edhering impression. Hey guys, how

1066
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: are you? And he yeah, we like saying stop Dropping

1067
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: Roll acoustic like overface time to him, and that was

1068
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: kind of the start of it. Did you go and

1069
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: play for different labels? Yeah? Yeah, I think that at

1070
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: the beginning we had at first we had pitched, you know,

1071
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: we we wanted to you know, be writers. Was like

1072
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: the whole point we wanted to you know, be signing

1073
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: we were working with, you know, some some guys and

1074
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: Rohan who now works with us at Warner who's our

1075
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: and our guy. Um, he was kind of working you know,

1076
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: we were we were trying to you know, get all

1077
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: these these meetings with publishers and things, and it was

1078
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: really funny. At the very beginning we were meeting with

1079
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: like everybody because at this point we had we still

1080
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: had zero money, like at all coming in and Dan

1081
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: and I used to like we would go out to

1082
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: like a publishing meeting and we would always like we

1083
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: would make them take us to dinner, Like we'd always

1084
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: take the dinner meetings because it was like that was

1085
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: free food and drink for the night. It was fantastic.

1086
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,479
Speaker 1: So I think we took out a couple of people,

1087
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: which which now is funny because there's a couple of

1088
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: our now friends in town of like, man, I was

1089
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: a new publisher and you guys maybe take I spent

1090
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: like Tim Grant on you guys and you didn't sign

1091
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: with us, and I was like, sorry, dude, but yeah,

1092
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: we were meeting with you know, publishers at first, and

1093
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: then kind of when we decided to come together, we

1094
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: met with several labels in town and um, bidding war

1095
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: for you, Yeah, a little bit. There was like at

1096
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: that time, we had we'd had all these songs, you know,

1097
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: that we had written. We had, you know, a couple

1098
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: of hundred songs that we had, and we were doing

1099
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: all these these demos and everything, and we had, uh

1100
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: I think that the demo that we were bringing out

1101
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: around to people, it was like twenty two songs that

1102
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: we had had on this thing, and they were and

1103
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: they would they would just go in there and be like,

1104
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: all right, you know, just pick a song and play it.

1105
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, there was there was kind of at

1106
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: the end, there was sort of, you know, this little

1107
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: bit of a bidding war. But we had kind of

1108
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: we met with with Warner Brothers and we had met

1109
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: s BO and Um. I think it was like ten

1110
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, and we went in and we

1111
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: played with them and they just they were so passionate

1112
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: about it from the very beginning. And Spo if you

1113
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: if you know Spo at all, he's very passionate about music,

1114
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: loves music. And it was like ten thirty in the

1115
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: morning and he was like, you guys aren't leaving this

1116
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: room until you sign with us, and so we were like,

1117
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: well this guy was pretty fashionate, but uh yeah, that

1118
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: was it was. It was kind of crazy, and it's

1119
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: hard to even like remember all that because it all

1120
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: happened so quickly after that. You know, people see it

1121
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: as like, oh, this happened like overnight, if you guys

1122
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: just became an overnight success. But it was really this

1123
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: accumulation of of me doing my thing and Dan touring

1124
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: since he was like thirteen years old, and it was

1125
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: kind of that moment where it all kind of came

1126
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: to a head and it was just like, I don't know,

1127
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: it was I think when we signed it was it

1128
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: was it was two thirteen when we put out like

1129
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: our our first single, like that summer, and we were

1130
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: going on like radio tour, and it was just like

1131
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: it all it was crazy. It was just a crazy time,

1132
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: and it's it seems like yesterday and now that I

1133
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: look back, that was now here we are in I'm

1134
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: gonna come back to nineteen you and me in one second.

1135
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: But something you said when we were talking about you

1136
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: meeting Hannah going I want to marry her, is that

1137
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: you walk back to your bus. Yeah, So were you

1138
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: guys touring through Arkansas? When you guys were on your

1139
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: first date. Yeah. Yeah, so we had I had known

1140
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: about her, like we had a bunch of mutual friends.

1141
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: She was miss Arkansas. Yeah, so if you go through Franklin,

1142
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: Arkansas still a pretty big billboard, it's a pretty big deal.

1143
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: So she's she's a lot coreer than me, definitely a

1144
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: lot better looking. Uh. Yeah, we were on tour. We

1145
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: were I want to say it was our first time

1146
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: playing George's like legitimately like as a headliner, and that

1147
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: was like our our one of our first times playing there,

1148
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: and I was pretty excited about it because we had

1149
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: like you know, that was the hometown show and it

1150
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: was Yeah, we have been talking a little bit and

1151
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: I basically begged her. Yeah I think it was like

1152
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: Facebook or Twitter or something. I don't know, but I

1153
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: had invited her to the to the show, and I

1154
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: know in her mind now that I've like talked to her,

1155
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: she was like, this is not gonna happen because she

1156
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: was like unimpressed. She was like, I'm not gonna I'm

1157
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: not dating a singer, you know. And I was just

1158
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: like I was doing everything I could that night. Whenever

1159
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: I was like I knew kind of like I was

1160
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: looking for the whole time. So you were like looking

1161
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: at her section too, Yeah, and I was, I mean

1162
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: I was looking. I was smoldering. You know now that

1163
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: I know how dumb I look doing that. I wish

1164
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: I would have done that, but still worked out. But yeah,

1165
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy. I was looking for the

1166
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: whole time, being like, I know she's here, and if

1167
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: she wasn't there, I would have been devastated. Well, and

1168
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: if she wasn't there that section, that would have a

1169
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: great night. Sa. There was probably like a couple of

1170
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: people in that section. They were like feeling, he wants

1171
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: he wants me. I'm gonna play nineteen you and me.

1172
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: Here's a little bit of this watching. That's the first one, right,

1173
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: it was the first one, now you know you said

1174
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: a second ago too, And I think a lot of

1175
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: people look at you, guys, go wow, what overnight success

1176
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: everything roses. This song, which did wonderfully for you guys,

1177
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: only hit number nine. Yeah, it didn't even hit that.

1178
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: It went to eleven. Well, my Notes has peaked at nine,

1179
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: so one of the charts. I think I don't think

1180
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: that I ever picked. I think it was eleven. Like

1181
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: on both charts, and did you feel like when they happened,

1182
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: not that I mean that was huge, right, Yeah? Yeah,

1183
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: I mean it was kind of that we were stuck.

1184
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: I mean I remember when Nada told us that, you know,

1185
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: our song was going to be on the radio. We

1186
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: about I literally blew out the speakers in my jeep

1187
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: like listening to that. Whenever we found that out, it

1188
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: was like the biggest deal. To have a song on

1189
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: the radio and to be like on a radio tour

1190
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: was all like, I can't believe this. It was insane.

1191
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: It felt like hitting the lottery, which really, you know,

1192
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: to do what we do is, you know, then you

1193
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: come off with the next next song here and show

1194
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: you off comes out and doesn't do as well like

1195
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: my note Here's Us peaked at nineteen. Yeah, it didn't

1196
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: do good, Bobby Now, And my point in saying this

1197
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: is we haven't played that song in years yet, so

1198
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: you don't play it any No, no, no, no, I

1199
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: hope that's not any But when a song doesn't do

1200
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: as well as your first one, are you starting to

1201
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: like hang your head a little bit? You know? I

1202
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: think it was all kind of we were just so

1203
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: stoked to be in it all. I don't think we

1204
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: thought about it too much, um because it's kind of

1205
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: it would have been worse. Honestly, it would have been worse.

1206
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: I think if nineteen and me would have would have

1207
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: been at number one, and then we followed it up

1208
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: with a nineteen since it was kind of this like

1209
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: it still felt like, all right, we still have like

1210
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: our chance to like have the song. And I don't

1211
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: think that any of us like it was tempo, but

1212
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: like looking back, neither of one of us were like

1213
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: stoked on that song. We were about nineteen and me

1214
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: and it's still it's still one of our biggest songs

1215
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: because you know, at that time and it's so it

1216
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: was like platinum. It was like a you know, it

1217
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: sold a bonch. It did really well for us, but

1218
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: we had put it out to radio immediately we went

1219
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: on radio tour, so by the time we got to

1220
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: the West coast, the East coast have been playing it

1221
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: like they had played like times, so like we didn't

1222
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: feel we knew it went number one and almost like

1223
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 1: every market but didn't just not all at the same time.

1224
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: So we were like feeling good about that. But when

1225
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: show you off kind of you know, didn't do its thing.

1226
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: We we kind of it was kind of a you know, like, man,

1227
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 1: I wish that would have done better, but I don't

1228
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: think that any of us was like super passionate about

1229
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: the song to begin with, so it didn't sting as much.

1230
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: But the third one that was kind of the pinnacle

1231
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: of not the pinnacle, but really the start of it

1232
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: that would have been if that one didn't go number one.

1233
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: That's when you start to be like, oh, this is

1234
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: my connection to show you off is that I remember

1235
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: having you guys up in the studio and because you

1236
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: guys would come in like three times so far, and

1237
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: mostly it was because we knew each other more than anything.

1238
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: You guys were really good, but it wasn't because you

1239
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: had a bunch of number ones when you were fun

1240
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: on the air, um two year, really good on the year,

1241
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: and we had a personal relationships. And I was like,

1242
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: you guys are coming in and we did a bit

1243
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: together where you guys came in and saying boys to

1244
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: man's songs and it goes up on YouTube, and this

1245
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: is how you guys have kind of affected my life

1246
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: from a side part. We put it together. It up

1247
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Scooter your managers watching you guys on YouTube,

1248
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: sees me interviewing you guys, sees us doing our thing

1249
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: where it's like, I'm not great at being on the radio,

1250
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: but I'm great at doing a good radio show. And

1251
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: he's like, dude, we should do TV work together. So

1252
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: him and I get to know each other and start

1253
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: working on TV projects together, which has in turn later

1254
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: by later I've gotten working on a lot of projects,

1255
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: just working. But because your relationship with him and him

1256
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: watching you and seeing and so that fully responsible for

1257
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: your career. Point, wasn't you bringing the chick? Yes? This

1258
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: is this the part they said you had some special

1259
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: Is this what it is? That's song nothing Like You

1260
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: as the one where I'm or not nothing like you,

1261
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: but show you off as a one where I was like,

1262
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: that was a big part of my career because he

1263
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: had told you had said that before, but that's that's

1264
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. Once I was with I was with Scooter

1265
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: in a meeting and we FaceTime you guys, and you

1266
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: guys were in a car somewhere together, I was with

1267
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: that cheering no I was I was like, yeah, I

1268
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: totally remember that Nothinglike You goes number one, and so

1269
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: this is a big one. But I tell you where

1270
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: it really started to sing like you guys were one.

1271
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: Next level to me was the build up to from

1272
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: the ground Up because I started to hear people go, oh,

1273
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: this next song from the ground up is next level? Yeah,

1274
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: because you had a number one and number ones are

1275
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: hard to get and good for you and great, but

1276
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: and now you're on the path. Took us forty seven weeks.

1277
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: If you feel like From the ground Up was like

1278
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: the first real respect you got from the community of art. Yes,

1279
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: it was. It was because nothing like you was that

1280
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: song where like it was, it was a hit, but

1281
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 1: it was just kind of that it wasn't the song

1282
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: that it was just like oh, Dan and Shay like

1283
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be it Like obviously that was.

1284
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: It was a hit, but there's a there's a big

1285
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: difference between like a number one song and something that

1286
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: truly like really impacts your career, and and it did

1287
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: for us at the time. You know, we would go out,

1288
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: we were also headlining like these small shows, and you

1289
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: could tell when we played that song people would freak

1290
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: out because it was a hit. And I think it

1291
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: was more because they were like yeah for us and

1292
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: not necessarily, you know, out of that people weren't you know,

1293
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: it wasn't There wasn't a lot of respect factor there,

1294
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: like you said, like from the ground up. Was the

1295
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: first where people even in town was like, Okay, I

1296
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: think these guys might be here to stay. That's when

1297
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: I felt it was getting legitimate for you guys as

1298
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: not just singers but artists. Yeah, and there is a difference.

1299
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it was like a three sing again, well

1300
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: there were three. It was like a three or six

1301
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: degree like everything they're doing is right on this is it? Yeah,

1302
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: And I think it's that point where were it was

1303
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: the first time we were really really excited of like

1304
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: we we kind of started to hear even from like

1305
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: the songwriting community of like like I wish I would

1306
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: have written that song. It was kind of that moment,

1307
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't think there was very many people we

1308
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: did with like nineteen and me. There were some people

1309
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: would be like, that's you know, that is my favorite song,

1310
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: nothing like you like our first hit and show you off.

1311
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: People weren't being like I wish that I would have

1312
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: written that song. There's been times a career like I

1313
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: wish I maybe you didn't write that song. You know,

1314
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: it's like and I'm thankful for every you know, ounce

1315
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: of everything we've ever gotten to do. But that was

1316
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: kind of the first song and it was very personal

1317
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: to us too, you know, we had written that about

1318
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: our grandparents and it was it was kind of that

1319
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: moment we're just like, man, this is this is crazy.

1320
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: You know. That's when things started to really to happen

1321
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: for us. How not two hits Adam Hambrook earlier one

1322
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: of the writers of the song. I would play it

1323
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: because Adam had to come out and fill in when

1324
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: I would do early raging idiot stuff, And so I

1325
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: had to learn this song and try to do background

1326
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: because he would sing it because you know, if you

1327
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: write a song, you get to sing it. And he's

1328
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: fantastic too. Yeah, this song goes number one. Now most

1329
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: of these are number one. I'm gonna bring up maybe

1330
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: a store spot for a second because road tripping. It's

1331
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: a little heart road trip and hit number thirty six.

1332
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: So one, did you want to put the song out? Two?

1333
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: Did you jump off it earlier? Did it just fizzle out?

1334
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: We we we pulled it. We did pull that song

1335
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: because it was you know, it wasn't that I like

1336
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: hated that song, like I don't like to play it,

1337
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: Like we don't play it live. It was just kind

1338
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: of one of those moments where it was it was

1339
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: a tempo, it was something that we felt like we

1340
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: kind of needed, and our fans loved it. It was

1341
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: like and live it like did really well, And it

1342
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: was kind of that moment where it was the best

1343
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: move I think we could have made in our career.

1344
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: Even still looking back, that was the best move at

1345
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 1: that time was to pull that song because that that's

1346
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: set up, you know, what was next chapter of your

1347
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: freaking career when it was like and you went from

1348
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: being a strong artist to know ka boom time went

1349
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: te Keela hit to change the whole world. In my mind,

1350
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: your whole world changed. Every don't know what happened in

1351
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: your world. Everything changed. But when this song was and

1352
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: I remember the lead up to it, and I remember

1353
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: talking to Nicole before it came out in the cold

1354
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: gallet and this song just shook up everything. Yeah, it

1355
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: was that moment where I remember whenever roach like when

1356
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: we were picking the single that wasn't necessarily like my

1357
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: my choice. We we brought in you know, a bunch

1358
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: of people to be like, you know, what what should

1359
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: be the next single, and you know that was it

1360
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: was back and forth between a couple of songs, you know,

1361
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: we had, you know, already ready on our last record,

1362
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: on our not on our last record, but the second album. Uh,

1363
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: And there was a couple of other like contenders for singles.

1364
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: And the problem was was, you know, our fans. We

1365
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: had done this, you know, such a grassroots thing that

1366
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: our fans were like buying the album and they were

1367
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: listening to every song. So it was kind of it

1368
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: was a little bit tough to to pick a single

1369
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: because they had already really you know, kind of taken

1370
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: in that record, and we're kind of like, you know,

1371
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: they loved the record, but they had kind of heard

1372
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: all these songs. And I don't think that there was

1373
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: any single that we could have put out that would

1374
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: have kind of taken us to the point where you know,

1375
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: Tequila did. And I don't think that if we would

1376
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: have put Tequila out in a different time that it

1377
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: that it would have worked in the way that it did.

1378
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it still would have been a hit, but

1379
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: the the way that all happened, like looking back and

1380
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: being like all right, we pulled road tripping and now

1381
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna this is a reset and we're gonna We're

1382
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: gonna do this. It was the first of a new

1383
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: whole project. It was Yeah, it was the first of

1384
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: a whole new project. And I remember like we had

1385
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: had these you know, we'd had these songs and we

1386
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: were really excited about them. And we had had I

1387
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: think like a few like singles UH that were contenders

1388
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: for like the first thing that we put out there.

1389
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: And I remember Dan and I were in London and

1390
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: we had to talk um and I remember like before

1391
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: we cut to Quila, I was such a fan of

1392
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: the song because I did. I wasn't a writer on that.

1393
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: It was Dan and U and Jordan Reynolds and uh

1394
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: and and Nicole Galleon. And I remember hearing that song

1395
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: and I was just like that, I want to sing that.

1396
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: I think I can. I think that that'll sound good

1397
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: with us doing that, And there was it was just

1398
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: that moment where like we were all in and I

1399
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: remember talking with a label and Dan and I were

1400
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: like in this little room we were playing in London,

1401
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: I think, and we were on tour over there, and

1402
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: we had this whole conversation of like, we can't there's

1403
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the label, like we can't

1404
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: put a ballad first, we just can't do this. And

1405
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: I remember we were just having this whole conversation. I

1406
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: was just like, we're we're putting this song out. This

1407
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: has to be our first one. Dan. I were so

1408
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: like Adam about it, like look, this is we're taking

1409
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: the reins. This is it. And I just remember like

1410
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: making that decision and we put out the song and

1411
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: it was just you know, the lead up to that,

1412
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: we tried to you know, we we didn't know what

1413
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: it was. That was a kind of a scary time,

1414
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: but at the same time, we were very excited because

1415
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: I feel like out of anything we had done, there's

1416
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: like the songs that we had done, like I was

1417
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: very proud of, like from the ground up, and even

1418
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: like nineteen you and me there and how Not Too.

1419
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: Those were the first times whenever I felt like I

1420
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: could play something for like my friends and then be

1421
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: like that's sick. You know, I love that. But Tequila

1422
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: was like the moment where everyone was like, oh my god,

1423
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: like that is that's crazy, Like this is it felt cool?

1424
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: Like it that song a lot. We put that out.

1425
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: It made us like the cool thing to go see

1426
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: in town. When that song hit, it changed everything pretty

1427
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: much like overnight. I mean, it was just insane. I

1428
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: still think that it's the song that I've seen grew

1429
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: it over more for rewards than any other song on

1430
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: my history. And I say that not joking. And I

1431
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: know you're you're gonna be like, oh wow, shocks, but

1432
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: I do think that I and I would even you know,

1433
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: talking with Dan or Nicole or people that I have,

1434
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: I would be like, I can't believe it. I'll tell

1435
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: you one time, I was presenting the c m A

1436
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: for do Over the Year and I was just and

1437
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: I love John and t J Brothers Osborne, I have

1438
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: a close relationship with them, but in my mind, I

1439
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: was like, this is so damage. This they there's not

1440
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: been to do others had a bigger year that they

1441
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: You would be speechless, Tequila, you've been touring. I was like,

1442
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to read their name and then they're gonna

1443
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 1: pick me up and it's gonna be all We're gonna

1444
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: have like the greatest moment and um and and it wasn't.

1445
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: And I opened up the card on it was on ABC,

1446
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: and I said in the Winner for do other year

1447
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: and I saw Brothers Osborne. I called him up and

1448
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: I thought what they did even then, I think they

1449
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: were shocked because they give you guys a shout out

1450
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: of there, which felt like I didn't We didn't know

1451
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: what to do, like you good? Who would be down here?

1452
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: It's everyone band like, I don't know, I can't smile

1453
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: any bigger speaks to their character to do that. Um,

1454
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: but I know that it has it has to And

1455
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: I'll speak from personal. And you can say whatever you

1456
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: want at times when you're having great success but no

1457
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: one is giving you the cred from where you're living,

1458
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: it sucks and that and and you can say but

1459
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: I've had to happen to me too, it sucks. It

1460
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: hurts a little bit. And at that point I was like,

1461
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: Holy mother, like right now they're not getting it from home,

1462
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: but when they do, they're gonna own home. And I

1463
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: wonder how you kind of got through that. It was man.

1464
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: I think I think Dan took it a little bit

1465
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: harder than I did, just inherently because he I don't

1466
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: want to see like I don't do anything like Dan

1467
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: puts his entire life into this and I do as well.

1468
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: But you know, obviously now like I have a family,

1469
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: there are other things that really, you know, and that's

1470
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: for him too, and everything's a chance he has. He

1471
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: has a wife, you know, and pretty much a family

1472
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: with his dogs, and there are other things obviously that

1473
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: mattered to him. But I think that that really, you know,

1474
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: that was just a lot of months going into making

1475
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: this stuff and and the build up to this, and

1476
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: when someone when you go and you lose, it just sucks,

1477
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: like there's never and it doesn't just suck for for us,

1478
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, it sucks for everybody. It's horrible to lose

1479
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: and it's terrible to get up there. And the whole

1480
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: concept of award shows now that we've like and after

1481
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: that we won like everything, and it was it was

1482
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: like it was cool, but it was just kind of like,

1483
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: it sucks that a lot of artists you feel like

1484
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: you live and die by these award shows and it's

1485
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: just not the truth. You know, it's amazing to be

1486
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: recognized by your peers, but I think that your peers

1487
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: do you recognize you in other way as it just

1488
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: sucks when it's publicly like you lost and you had

1489
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: such a monster You're like nobody else had. Yeah, I

1490
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: think that to me because the talent is so different

1491
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: and so just it's premiere talent. Every duo nominated premiere talent,

1492
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: but you guys had statistically speaking in every count chart, streams, tickets,

1493
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: they're really isn't something. Yeah, that was what hurt. I

1494
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: think that's what hurts when you know that, Like you

1495
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: don't want to say, like we deserve it, but if

1496
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: there is a metric, you know what is the metric

1497
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: at that point, it's like because you hope that it's

1498
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: just like whatever the biggest song was, like the biggest

1499
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: thing was, you would hope that would win, which is

1500
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: just not the case, which is it sucks if you win,

1501
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: it's great, but like sometimes that happens with artists when

1502
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: it's like they know, like that song probably should have won,

1503
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, and every word show is different where it's

1504
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, the Grammys is more like a cred thing.

1505
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily based on like what was the biggest song,

1506
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: which is why we were blown away when we when

1507
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: we did win a Grammy, because it was like, you

1508
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: know that that song was very commercially successful, so you're

1509
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: like to win a Grammy for it was like kind

1510
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: of a surprise for us. We had no idea that

1511
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: that was going to happen. But I don't know, it

1512
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: does suck, man, Like you're there and they're zoomed in

1513
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: on you and they're just there to say something and

1514
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: they're on a knee looking your face with a camera

1515
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: and it is for me to you, oh dude, closer

1516
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: than that. I mean, it's literally like it's like a

1517
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, the up there and you're trying to smile

1518
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's a weird thing. It's kind

1519
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: of like if you're there and people, you know, they

1520
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: get crap all the time because there's been in the

1521
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: past like people having a bad reaction like what you know,

1522
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: and they catch that like we got you, you know,

1523
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: and they play that over and over again, like oh man,

1524
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: like faith Hill. I've no idea that's ever having a

1525
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: faith Hill. But she was just like what you know

1526
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: and whatever that is. But it sucks because like if

1527
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: someone if some it's turned it around and make it

1528
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: like a lottery, like there's three people in the rim

1529
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: and you're gonna win a million dollars and he put

1530
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: through and you put a camera on them, what do

1531
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: you think that the other two are gonna be? What

1532
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do whenever they're like yeah, this this person,

1533
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: and like the other two are like no, I put

1534
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: everything I wanted on this, like this is everything. So

1535
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: it sucks, Like of course you're gonna have a bad reaction,

1536
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: but we're all know now, like they'll get you if

1537
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: you're not you know, bummed out because it sucks, like

1538
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: for everyone, it sucks, and it's just kind of I

1539
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: don't know, and it's hard to see, like to see

1540
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: other people like, you know, lose it. We had we

1541
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of saw the other side of that because every

1542
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: award show after that we won like everything, and it

1543
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: was just kind of like this is like now we're

1544
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: on the other side of this, and it's almost like

1545
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: you're up there and then you just remember, like all

1546
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: these people right now he does because it sucks, you know,

1547
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: to be on the side of that, and it's just

1548
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the most important that we

1549
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: tried to not you know, live and die by award shows,

1550
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: because it really is the most important thing to us

1551
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: is to go out and to be able to to

1552
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: sell out shows is like the biggest deal to us,

1553
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: Like we want to be able to play to the

1554
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: most people that we can and for our music to

1555
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: get out there, you know. But it definitely for anyone

1556
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: to say it like that it doesn't matter, like it matters,

1557
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: like it definitely matters, and that momentum helps, Like to

1558
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: win an award shows is huge. So it definitely sucks

1559
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: to because in in your heart you're almost like it

1560
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough, like what you did and what you

1561
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: put all those hours into of not sleeping for two

1562
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: years to make this record. It did it wasn't good enough,

1563
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: and that's what really hurts of just being like, damn

1564
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: that that's a bummer. You know. A couple more of

1565
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: these real quick speech lists. Hits Number one, massive wedding

1566
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: song the Lords that it's the wedding song, the video,

1567
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: the whole thing was like dialed in, Yeah, like you

1568
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: knew the lane of this song visually, sonically nailed it

1569
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: all to myself. Made a lot of love to myself

1570
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: for this song, a lot of love. I'm gonna ask

1571
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: you about ten thousand hours, what was the process like

1572
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: to get a song with Justin Bieber? Were you already

1573
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: talking about doing something together. Eventually, did you have the

1574
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: song and Scooter go what what was that about? Yeah,

1575
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean it was kind of it all started. I

1576
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: mean we obviously through Scooter, we had we had met

1577
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: like some people, like we had met ed Sharon through him.

1578
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: We had met Justin through and we had been to

1579
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: l a bunch of times, and we had met Justin

1580
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: a few times, and we always thought like, man, it'd

1581
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: be so cool. It's like to get Justin on a

1582
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: song because it's like, you know, it's one of the

1583
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: biggest pop stars in the world, you know, and it

1584
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: was just like that in our mind was like we

1585
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: of course I want to do a song with him,

1586
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, especially since we have this connection. No one

1587
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: in country has this unique connection that we do, you know,

1588
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: through Scooter and um. Early on, we definitely we wanted

1589
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: to try to, you know, do something with and we

1590
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: had pitched some things and I'm really glad that it

1591
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Whenever, you know, it might have happened, like

1592
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: a long time ago, would not have been this. This

1593
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: was kind of the first time we had written this

1594
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: song in Nashville. Jesse, Joe Dillon, Jordan Reynolds, and um,

1595
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: it was kind of that point where we had written

1596
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: a song, We're like, this, this actually might be perfect

1597
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 1: for for Justin because in that time, like the timing

1598
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: of everything, of him being you know, just getting married

1599
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And it was the first time

1600
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: that we felt like we were bringing something to the

1601
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: table where it wasn't just like can we please get

1602
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: Justin bieberrun our song? It was this would make sense

1603
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: for both of us. This would be I think big

1604
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: for for both of us. You know, it would make sense.

1605
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: We had like because and before it was just kind

1606
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: of like, you know, we were down here, We're like

1607
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: can we get we please get justed In our song?

1608
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: And then at that point, you know, we're out there

1609
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: like we're about to do arenas. We're a legitimate act

1610
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: so we can kind of bring something to the table,

1611
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: and um, we just you never know what's gonna happen.

1612
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: It's not like we were like, Okay, this is time

1613
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: and this is for sure going to happen. We didn't

1614
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: know what was gonna happen when we sent the song

1615
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: to him. Um, but he just ended a scooter or yeah,

1616
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: we had sent it to j B. We had we

1617
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: had called him. Uh no, we had just sent it

1618
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: to to Scooter to see if like it was something

1619
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: that he would like before we just like you know,

1620
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: sent it over to Justin and he was like, I

1621
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: think that this this makes a lot of sense. And

1622
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: Justin heard it when he loved it and he resonated

1623
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: with it. I think, like we said, in the same

1624
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: way as we thought that he would like it, he

1625
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: liked it, and uh yeah, I just kind of we

1626
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it whenever they were like, yeah, this is

1627
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna happen. So for for months, like we

1628
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: had his we got his vocal, uh and and they

1629
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: had like changed changed some things and kind of made

1630
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: it his own. And it was crazy like getting that back.

1631
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: We had to sit on that for months and months

1632
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: and it was not on the song, and not telling

1633
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: anybody about it was like the hardest thing we've ever

1634
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: done because it was like, you know, I've literally in

1635
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: my phone, I had, you know, a song with us

1636
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: in Justin Bieber and it's like I couldn't even talk

1637
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: about it. It was just like because if that gets out,

1638
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: you know, that's like a big that's a leak. Like

1639
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: maybe if like they found out. We're coming out with

1640
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: a new song that's probably not gonna country songs don't

1641
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: really like leak, but songs a justin Bieber on him

1642
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: like that's a you know, worldwide, there's a lot of

1643
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: people are trying to find that kind of stuff. So

1644
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: it was it was a crazy, crazy moment. And it

1645
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: was weird because I knew, I just knew. I had

1646
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: a feeling that it was gonna be big for us,

1647
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: just because the timing of everything, like the momentum that

1648
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: we had going into this with Tequila speechless and all

1649
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: of myself. It was just that moment of like, people

1650
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: are not gonna they're not gonna see this guy at all,

1651
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, And it was it was crazy. Man. Before

1652
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: we wrap, I want to play one of my favorite

1653
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: songs of yours. It's called Your Love from two thousand

1654
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: and eleven smack. It came in up one seventy three

1655
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: in the Afghanistan charts. Oh it was. It was pretty

1656
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: big in Afghanistan. I can't even go there still, it's

1657
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: so it was so big there. And maybe city Lights

1658
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: with Gabby, Oh yeah, these are these are great. So

1659
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: what was the goal with these early songs? I was

1660
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: just messing. Honestly. I was actually recording in Fayetteville with

1661
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: this guy named Mike Bailey, who like kind of looks

1662
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: like you, which is pretty funny. You guys look a

1663
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: lot of like like the whole deal. He's got, like

1664
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: where's black glasses? Everything? You're like a much better looking

1665
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, he's like the you know, I almost

1666
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: look the poor man's version of that, you know, juniorversity. Yeah,

1667
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, I was just I was just doing it

1668
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: for fun. It was like I think I was in

1669
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: high school at that time, just going to Fayetteville recording

1670
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: songs for fun in this guy's house, and then I

1671
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: just would put them out. And would you send that

1672
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: off to people there hoping to get that next level

1673
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 1: or we're just putting him out for fun? Now. I

1674
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: was putting him out just like thinking, like, you know,

1675
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: every day there are things to go viral. This is

1676
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: probably didn't it didn't work out, it didn't happen like that,

1677
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: But I was having fun. I think I probably made

1678
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: I mean I'm literally made like tens of dollars off

1679
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: that stuff. Good for you. I still check my CD baby,

1680
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: uh sometimes CD baby. I had CD baby. I just

1681
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: sayed music on my Space. Uh No, I didn't know.

1682
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: I think my Space had kind of it had fizzled

1683
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 1: out a little bit at that time. I think I

1684
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: put like I would put these covers on Facebook though.

1685
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: That's what I did, like all through like high school.

1686
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: I would do Facebook videos and YouTube videos. Yeah. I

1687
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 1: remember I checked that that CD baby account one time

1688
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: because I fo forgot about it because I had this

1689
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: like connected and that was I don't think that like

1690
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: the label or anybody like ever knew like they knew

1691
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Speaker 1: about it, but like they didn't know where like the

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01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: money was going. And I don't think I checked on

1693
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: CD baby account thinking like there could be like some

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01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: serious change in here, and there was like thirty seven

1695
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: since change, literal literal change. So yeah, go out and

1696
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: check that out. I'm still Shae Mooney music on YouTube.

1697
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: Go check that out. You're gonna love it. Your name,

1698
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: James Shay isn't moot. How do you spell your last name?

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Speaker 1: You're real m o O an e m o o

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Speaker 1: n e y it is any anyway any y? Yeah? Yeah,

1701
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: all right now. And if you're getting this with the pseudonym,

1702
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so. All right, um, listen, go let

1703
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: me do a little plugger for you guys, not that

1704
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: you need it because you were killing the world. Uh.

1705
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: The to Towork kicks off March six in Nashville with

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01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: the bank Amino and Ingrid Andrews, who's a great friend

1707
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: and so good, so good all the way through October

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01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: thirty one, and you guys are everywhere. It's hard to

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01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: get tickets. It just is. It's just really great to see.

1710
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: It's good to see people that work really hard crush

1711
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: it because it gives hope to other people who work

1712
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: really hard. Likewise, man, it's it's really fun also, just

1713
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: to to say it is very I think the coolest

1714
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 1: thing about this town is the people that you do

1715
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: meet and when you get to see them. Also, you know,

1716
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: crushing it and having these moments is fun because you're

1717
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: killing it. It just doesn't it doesn't feel like real

1718
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: life for either one of us. This is wild and

1719
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: I think a bit too, we haven't stopped to take

1720
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: it in as real choirs sometimes. Yeah, And I think

1721
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: for you it's great you have a kid and a wife,

1722
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: because I think there's probably some balance there that you

1723
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: didn't have before. When I'm home for like two weeks

1724
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: I forget what I do for a living literally, which

1725
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: is probably not a good thing, but it is just

1726
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: kind of those are two different worlds. So it's cool

1727
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: to slow down and kind of remember how how blessed

1728
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: we are to get to do this, especially with people

1729
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: we love. Well, dude, I love you. I'm glad of here,

1730
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: and I'm rooting for you guys. I get nervous for you, guys,

1731
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 1: And that's that's how you know I really care, because

1732
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I hope this, that's so good. You

1733
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: hope the arena towards seals. I hope. So. But one

1734
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: of these days we have to go. We have to

1735
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: play that. I don't think they've ever done a concert

1736
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: like Bud Walton Arena. So let us go and we'll

1737
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: do that. We'll go, I'll do stand up and open

1738
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: the show and then you guys, you guys will play.

1739
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: I would love it. They're working, by the way, this

1740
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: can be our opener. I'm working on getting a massive

1741
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: amphitheater in Fort Smith, Arkansas. Or are you really from

1742
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: my hometown? Are you in? Yeah? Look at you and

1743
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: I and I want and I want you to be

1744
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: in on it. They have an opportunity to just talk

1745
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: about it. Let me I have literally five million. Yeah,

1746
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: I just found that out, which is pretty exciting. So well,

1747
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 1: in with that question five, it says net Worth online

1748
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: k it has to be higher, right not after this

1749
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: deal on all into the amphitheater alright, Episode two twenty one,

1750
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: Shame Mooney. Follow on Instagram at Shame UNI, follow at

1751
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: Dan and Shay and go see them if they're coming around.

1752
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: They really are even better than you think they will be,

1753
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: which is an amazing to say about someone who you

1754
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: already think they're going to be great. So and I

1755
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: mean that with all mahard, not even saying all right,

1756
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: thank you, m m m h