WEBVTT - Buck Brief -  Will This Major Terror Group Be Totally Eradicated?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, what's next for Israel's war against Hamas. We

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<v Speaker 2>have people over at Axios, for example, sharing this that

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<v Speaker 2>Israel plans do the quote occupy and flatten all of

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza if no hostage and ceasefire deal is reached by

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<v Speaker 2>the end of President Trump's trip to the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 3>That is from a fellow named Barack Ravid.

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<v Speaker 2>David Ifoon joins us now and he is the publisher

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<v Speaker 2>of the New York Sun, and we're going to dive

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<v Speaker 2>into all this now, David, always good to.

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<v Speaker 1>See you likewise, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what do you make of this? I mean, this

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<v Speaker 3>is from Axios.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying that the next phase is to quote flatten

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<v Speaker 2>all of Gaza and occupy it if there are if

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a full release of all remaining hostages. What

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<v Speaker 2>can you tell us about the state of this war

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<v Speaker 2>and what happens next.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting that you bring this up, Buck. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Israel back in two thousand and five

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<v Speaker 1>when Israel pulled out of the Gaza strip and I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to take you all the way back, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is relevant that was at the time Israel governed the

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<v Speaker 1>whole of the Gaza Strip. There was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>international pressure regarding peacemaking. If you listeners will recall, Ariel

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<v Speaker 1>Sharon was the one who spearheaded this. He actually had

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<v Speaker 1>to form a new government in order to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to pull it off. He was encouraged at the time

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<v Speaker 1>by George W. Bush and Condoleeza Rice, but ultimately ended

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<v Speaker 1>up pulling all Israelis out of the Gaza Strip in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five. I was there for all the protests.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the chaos on the ground. I saw, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of you might remember the orange shirts. That was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the banners, and the theme of the protests was

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<v Speaker 1>color orange. But you know, people were really screaming and

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<v Speaker 1>shouting about the disaster that they felt would unfold at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and it so happens. You know, since Hamas

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<v Speaker 1>took over Gaza in two thousand and seven, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just two years after that pullout, I've now been in

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<v Speaker 1>the position where I've basically overseen coverage of five different

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<v Speaker 1>wars in Gaza, five different wars in Gaza, and what

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<v Speaker 1>has become quite apparent even throughout this latest round, is

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<v Speaker 1>that if you really do want a scenario where there

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<v Speaker 1>are no more wars in Gaza, which obviously is good

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<v Speaker 1>for the people of Israel, but more than the people

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel, even it's good for the people in Gaza,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to get rid of Hamas, and you need

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of them completely. You know, to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of eighty percent of Hamas or ninety percent of

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<v Speaker 1>Mamas is like getting rid of eighty or ninety percent

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<v Speaker 1>of a buyer. As some Israeli officials have put it,

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<v Speaker 1>it will sprout again and will take over again if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not if it is not completely excised, they have

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<v Speaker 1>Harmas has taken over every single element of society and

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<v Speaker 1>living in the Gaza strip. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of this process, it seems he's really

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<v Speaker 1>sort of tried to see if they could figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to get Hamas out of the picture using more

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<v Speaker 1>conventional methods. But it seems that they've arrived at the

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion that the only way to really do that is

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<v Speaker 1>to just sweep the slate entirely clean and stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>scratch again.

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<v Speaker 2>So does it seem like then it is true that

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<v Speaker 2>is there going to be some uh taking occupy, occupying

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<v Speaker 2>occupation of this area that is essentially like a DMZ.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that's is that going to be the plan?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it certainly looks like they're lining that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Is an option. You know, it would be easy for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody if Hamas just demilitarized, give up, the hostages, stepped

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<v Speaker 1>out of the picture. But it seems apparent they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that. And if they aren't going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, Israel is basically faced with two choices, right.

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<v Speaker 1>One choice is to kind of continue with the status

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<v Speaker 1>quote where Hamas is still placing a stranglehold on how

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<v Speaker 1>the flow of goods and aid circulate. They're still controlling

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of a lot of the people in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>They still have the capacity to wage water to some degree,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously if they're left alone, they will continue to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do that to a larger degree. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's option one. Option two is to just, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>could completely take over and remove Hamas from power and

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<v Speaker 1>everything that relates to it and start again from scratch.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, obviously that's not going to be easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not easy for Israel. They've got to put their

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers into hum'swey again. There's a huge mobilization effort now

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<v Speaker 1>in the south of Israel. I mean, people down there

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<v Speaker 1>tell me all the tanks are going down, all of

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<v Speaker 1>the reservists are being called up. I mean, they are

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<v Speaker 1>mobilizing right now for full scale war. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>easy for Israel. It's not easy for gardens either, in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that you know, a lot of garzens have

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<v Speaker 1>been displaced for a very long time. We're seeing now

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<v Speaker 1>what I think we believe for a long time that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of gardens don't support Hamas. I mean, plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of gardens do support Hamas, but there are also gardens

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<v Speaker 1>that don't their effectivity living under a totalitarian regime where

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<v Speaker 1>every single aspect of their lives is owned by Hamas.

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<v Speaker 1>Their food, the medicine, their kids' lives is owned by Hamas.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it would certainly be a tough period.

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<v Speaker 1>But if at the end of it, there's a scenario

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<v Speaker 1>where there's no Hamas and you know, they can start

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<v Speaker 1>the process of rebuilding with new power structures. At least

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<v Speaker 1>certainly there's a real opportunity for Israelis to be free

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<v Speaker 1>and at peace, and also an opportunity for Garzen people

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<v Speaker 1>to finally live in a scenario where where they can

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<v Speaker 1>have direct relations with the world at large or why

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<v Speaker 1>the community, whether kids aren't being recruited for terror all

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<v Speaker 1>day and all night. They can have access, open access

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<v Speaker 1>to information and maybe create the embers of living in

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<v Speaker 1>a better world and a better future for themselves and

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<v Speaker 1>their families.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it then accurate you think to say that

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<v Speaker 2>the goal here, the strategy for the IDF, these really

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<v Speaker 2>defense forces, is the destruction of Hamas as an entity.

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<v Speaker 3>That that is accurate? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>If this, if this war goes the way that it

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be, it's not beat back Hamas until they

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<v Speaker 2>are at a fraction of their normal or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>general strength. It is Hamas is effectively an issue no more.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that accurate? I mean, that's exactly accurate. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you know, when when officials are talking about flattening Gaza,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not kind of like a salt the Earth strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's actually quite pragmatic in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the years that you know, Gaza has been built

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<v Speaker 1>up in the way that it's been built Hamas infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>has been integrated into absolutely everything and everywhere. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are you know, super high end apartment buildings in

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza that have you know, Hamas tunnels and Hamas infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>built into them. A lot of them were funded by Katar,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and you know, it's hard to see

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<v Speaker 1>a scenario where Katar wasn't complicit in that. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to sort of know with certainty that

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas is gone is really to take an inch by

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<v Speaker 1>inch approach, and that involves, you know, looking under every

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<v Speaker 1>stone and every rock and every tunnel and every building,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's you know, what would be necessary in order

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve that result. I think that's it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me that that is what the Israelis have determined. After

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<v Speaker 1>going at this for for nearly two years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been it's been a long fight already. How much

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<v Speaker 2>longer do you think it will take before they would

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<v Speaker 2>achieve that objective?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you know when it has gone for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. But just keep in mind that they've

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<v Speaker 1>been in different phases, right, There'll be phases where it's

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<v Speaker 1>paused for negotiations as phases, and then the various you know,

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<v Speaker 1>short term deals that have been enacted. But the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing to keep in mind is that Israeli society and

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<v Speaker 1>the Israeli Army is very much a citizen army, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain requirements that Israeli government has to keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind. So for example, they can't keep reservists signed

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<v Speaker 1>up for more than three months. Right. Some of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they have businesses, they have families. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have folks like you and me who have day jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly they're called off to go and fight in Kaza,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, some of them are startup entrepreneurs or

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<v Speaker 1>this or that. You know, it's they they got to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to come back to that. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>think also frankly, part of it is, you know, many

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<v Speaker 1>of the soldiers are students, they're in university, they're finishing

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<v Speaker 1>the semester. So on a practical basis, the summer is

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<v Speaker 1>a better time to mobilize the IDF, which is probably

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<v Speaker 1>why you're seeing this sort of timeline emerging. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if they're at full scale and they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>focused on getting the job done, I think it's weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>especially being as Hamas is so depleted as it is now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>some talk, David that even in the US and the

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<v Speaker 2>Pentagon there's a disagreement about how Iran and its nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>program should be should be handled. What are we to

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<v Speaker 2>think about this because for so many years now I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even begin to countertrack it. We've been told Iran

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<v Speaker 2>is getting closer, Iran is so close, Iran is closer

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<v Speaker 2>than it's ever been right, and we say, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we doing or what does that mean? What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think the posture of Israel is right now

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<v Speaker 2>with the Iranian nuclear program? And what should the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>administration be doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Look, first of all, just to put a line

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<v Speaker 1>under sort of the contrasting visions for how to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with Iran, the view of the if I'm administration, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>And frankly, you know, at certain times and from certain

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<v Speaker 1>people in the Trump administration, you hear the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>the Europeans. You hear Iran cannot be allowed to get

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear weapon, right. The position of the Israelis is

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<v Speaker 1>Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons capability, which

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<v Speaker 1>are two completely different ideas. One is that Iran might

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<v Speaker 1>have the tools in its kitchen to create a nuclear weapon,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not gonna allow them to push the button,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Israelis always maintained, well, that's very risky. You

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have to trust the Iranians if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to allow them to have the whole setup. We want

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<v Speaker 1>a scenario where they're not just pulling out the plug

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<v Speaker 1>from the machines, but they are dismantling the machines entirely,

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<v Speaker 1>and the and the weapons production capability. So that's been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a source of a big disagreement for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. And you know, I think in the early days,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with Witgoff and others sort of talking about

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<v Speaker 1>engaging with Iran, they were using similar language to the

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<v Speaker 1>above administration, which certainly had the Israelis alarmed. But more recently,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the language has been more precise in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that they're saying, we don't want to allow nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>weapons capability. I mean, look, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to deal with this is for the

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<v Speaker 1>Iranians to understand that they have a really serious amount

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<v Speaker 1>at stake if they continue to pursue it and to

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<v Speaker 1>undo the progress that they've done on their own, which

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously really difficult, but there is I would say

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<v Speaker 1>a window now, an opportunity. Now Iran is incredibly weak

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<v Speaker 1>and incredibly isolated. The Trump administration has shown this ability

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<v Speaker 1>to be super tough on Iran in terms of sanctions,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think if they really ratchet up the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>and they it seems like they've at least opened up

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<v Speaker 1>a willingness to do so, there is the possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>achieving that outcome without the need for any military intervention. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>having a credible threat for military intervention is part of

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<v Speaker 1>what it takes to get the Iranians to take this seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>The other factor, which of course is significant and should

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<v Speaker 1>not be underestimate, tool is the degree of internal opposition

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<v Speaker 1>that you have in Iran, and the weakening of the

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<v Speaker 1>regime by the Trump administration of buying the international community

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<v Speaker 1>by definition strengthens the internal opposition within the country. So

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<v Speaker 1>the two peaceful ways are, you know, pressure that is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely ascruciating on the Iranian regime, that that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>convinces it that it's worth getting rid of the nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>program or and possibly simultaneously, the strengthening of the internal

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<v Speaker 1>opposition to the point where regime changes is a real threat.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the end of the day, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>military option, you know, needs to be on the table,

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<v Speaker 1>either as a as a practical last resort or as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a very firm alternative pathway that is presented

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<v Speaker 1>to the any regime to the extent that they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at these conversations and taking them really seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about the campus anti semitism stuff here a second.

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<v Speaker 2>c K. I don't know if you saw, but Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Ackman talking about that there needs to be some change

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<v Speaker 2>at Harvard at the very at the very top level.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in the Board of Overseers or that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the whatever it is, you know, you giving me a face,

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<v Speaker 2>what you don't you don't like your you want the

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard board to stay the same.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about this?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think it's it's insane what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on there. And I don't want to compare campus to

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza and Hamas, But you know, these kind of ideas

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<v Speaker 1>are just so deeply integrated into every level of some

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<v Speaker 1>of these elite liberal institutions in this country that it's

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<v Speaker 1>hot to see that any of these changes, superficial changes

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<v Speaker 1>are really going to make a difference. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>truth is, you want to change Harbor, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>fire half the professors and bring in people with alternative views. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the chances of that happening? You know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to change the overseers. Are they going to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is anybody going to do that? Like, if you really

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<v Speaker 1>want to have an open minded institution where you have

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<v Speaker 1>free debate, free discussion, free ideas, you can't have ninety

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent of all of the personnel being sort of

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<v Speaker 1>apparatics for the Soviets or you know, whatever the liberal

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<v Speaker 1>the work zeitgeist is at that particular time. So the

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<v Speaker 1>truth is, I think the more realistic pathway is not

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<v Speaker 1>that Harvard's going to change or Yale it's going to change.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that alternative institutions are going to displace them. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're already seeing sort of what they call

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<v Speaker 1>the Ivyes of the South. I know, in the Jewish community,

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be a huge badge of honor to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Harvard or Yale or this or that. Now

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of parents are telling their kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what you pick something else, you know, it's just not

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<v Speaker 1>worth it. And the truth is, if you have to

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<v Speaker 1>think about it big picture, you know, those are very

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<v Speaker 1>powerful brands, but they should not take for granted just

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<v Speaker 1>how quickly big brands can become devalued. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>saw what happened with bud Light or this or that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if that Zeit guy sort of takes hold,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the brand of Harvard and the brand of

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<v Speaker 1>Yale will just not have carry the same weight or

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<v Speaker 1>the same value that they've carried in the past. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the end of the day, frankly, you know, Harvard Yale,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're talking about anti Semitism, they need their Jews

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<v Speaker 1>more than the Jews need need Harvard. That's the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, if there is a boycott, if people

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<v Speaker 1>aren't sending their kids there, if Jewish or as ready,

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<v Speaker 1>professors don't want to teach there, if if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to engage in you know, shared research programs, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you'll end up with just this rabbel, you know

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<v Speaker 1>echo chamber of kind of like radicals, and they'll just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, feed off each other and eat each other alive.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know it'll be the end of these great institutions,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly what Trump's doing on the on the money

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna certainly accelerate that significant.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you agree with with that position from Trump that

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<v Speaker 2>if these places don't clean up their rack, they should

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<v Speaker 2>stop getting the federal dollars they're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so in the sense that you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>federal dollars always have strings attached, right, It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>a given, it's not a right to get to get

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<v Speaker 1>money from the government. And like in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not just Jewish students, but like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Christian white men probably feel isolated in a

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<v Speaker 1>this is not what the American people, how the American

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