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Speaker 1: Put your hands together, and we're gonna start to.

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Speaker 2: Part I'm ready to party the Elvis Duran after Party.

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Speaker 3: It is the After Party podcast.

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm doing it without a ship.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, how funny would it have been if

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Speaker 5: you tried to sit just now and you don't hilarious?

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Speaker 6: Daniel was that the same chair Scary was buttoling the

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Speaker 6: other day.

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Speaker 4: Holding my chair.

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Speaker 6: Oh, he cracked in.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I had a little plumber's crack.

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Speaker 4: I saw that that's hot now right in Milan.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And so here we have, of course, you heard Scotty

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Speaker 7: Bee over in the.

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Speaker 3: Podcast room for the Serial Killers podcast.

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Speaker 7: Here's Scary and Gandhi and I see Garrett, see Danielle

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Speaker 7: and Nate, who's falling asleep.

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Speaker 8: It says, non drowsy. Maybe that it just affects me differently.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, were you sleepy before?

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Speaker 4: Not really?

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Speaker 5: No, he remember he said he got a really good night.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but now that pill I was.

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Speaker 8: I was drunk.

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Speaker 4: I was drunk.

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Speaker 6: But with Nate's taking this clarreton so many times and

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Speaker 8: I've taken it later in the show, and I'd have

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Speaker 8: to remember if I got sleepier.

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Speaker 5: Later, it doesn't seem like the Clarkton is actually a

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Speaker 5: healthy I'm supposed to help you.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, so we're all here. What are we talking about?

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Speaker 6: Should we talk about Nate and Danielle breaking their Lent thing?

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Speaker 5: Okay, talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about let's talk about Lent.

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Speaker 5: Okay. So today is ash Wednesday, you know, when we're

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Speaker 5: recording this podcast, and you're supposed to this is the

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Speaker 5: beginning of Lent before Easter, and you give up something

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Speaker 5: for Lent and the Catholic religion like a sacrifice. And

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Speaker 5: you also don't have meat on ash Wednesday, Good Friday,

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Speaker 5: and every Friday during Lent. So Nate reminds me this morning, Hey, Danielle,

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Speaker 5: don't forget we can't eat meat today. I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you're right. So Nate ordered for breakfast a chicken farm

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Speaker 5: Hero and I said, hey, can I have a bike?

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Speaker 7: They go, we totally.

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Speaker 5: Forgot already doesn't count. Yes it does. Some people will

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Speaker 3: Honest, people who are not Catholics or don't know what

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Speaker 9: Does it really matter though, in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 9: You know, I feel like, especially on times when Saint

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Speaker 9: Patrick's day falls on a Friday, and you know, the

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, all the priests come.

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Speaker 10: In and say, it's okay, even though it's Friday, you

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Speaker 10: And all of a sudden, the rules get thrown out

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Speaker 4: Then who caress it? There's no rule?

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Speaker 1: Who cares?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think you're the I'm assuming, Danielle, you

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Speaker 5: In yes, I don't go to church every Sunday.

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Speaker 4: They should come up with a new set of rules.

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Speaker 4: Aren't those very antiquated?

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Speaker 5: Like okay, so it's said okay the non Catholic person.

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Speaker 5: It says that abstinence from meat on certain days is

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Speaker 5: I don't know why they give it exception that day

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Speaker 5: I have no idea. You have to look that up.

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Speaker 6: But I was serious about my no sex question because

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Speaker 6: You're actually not.

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Speaker 5: Supposed to have big meal. I think you only supposed

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Speaker 9: More accustom than anything else.

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Speaker 5: It really is not you, you who do not follow

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Speaker 4: I'm a Catholic. I want logic.

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Speaker 5: It's ridiculous right now, is looking down and she's like skiller.

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Speaker 10: She would agree with me it's critical to make rules,

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Speaker 7: So I would look agree with that.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm one hundred percent on board. I oh to

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Speaker 7: Is something to be said for being a student of religion. Yes,

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Speaker 7: and so if that's the case, if you're a student

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Speaker 6: Well, isn't this sort of in some ways, like the Constitution,

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Speaker 6: there were rules and then they realized these were silly,

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Speaker 6: from a place of trying to help out the fishermen, right,

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Speaker 8: The rumors in that it was a pope's brother or

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So I mean maybe as time changes, things can change.

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Speaker 6: And that's okay. You're not throwing everything out the window.

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Speaker 7: You're just wait, there's a difference in making these amendments

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Speaker 7: to switch up the constitution. They were amendments that were made. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: nothing in the in the Catholic Church said we got

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Speaker 6: Okay, you're saying you can't rewrite the Bible.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think it's a post.

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Speaker 4: To you and do what's best for them.

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Speaker 5: About time, I have to say that follow the money.

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Speaker 5: But as we the church has evolved over the years,

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Speaker 8: It has changed, but you can't. I grew up Catholic.

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Speaker 4: Not too late, actually it could be. Uh.

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Speaker 8: You have to admit, though, Danielle, some things are three

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Speaker 8: And you know, I mean, I remember serving the Mass

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Speaker 7: But okay, let's say the church, Catholic Church is a

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Speaker 7: Because it's on record because the Pope at some point said,

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Speaker 5: You know what the Pope now I think has in the.

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Speaker 5: And actually not too long ago, because I was teaching

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Speaker 7: They changed like years years, they change responses and well,

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Speaker 7: I'm not Catholic.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. What are you

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Speaker 3: a good question?

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Speaker 8: You raised?

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Speaker 4: Have I been raised at this point?

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Speaker 8: No, you went to church when you were younger.

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Speaker 6: Oh wow. So my mom and I have this conversation

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Speaker 6: I just think this is so silly, because of what

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Speaker 6: we want is to include people and to help people

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Speaker 8: I remember that because you go to church, people generally

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Speaker 5: They used to dress up.

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Speaker 5: But I look at it like that. But I look

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Speaker 5: But people, if you're there and you're there and you

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Speaker 4: You were there.

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Speaker 11: I've been a temple since my bar Mitzvah, so I

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Speaker 11: it's been thirty five. Yeah, you're not supposed to mixed

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Speaker 4: No, that's only if you're kosher. See you don't. Not

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Speaker 4: That's where all that stuff came from. Really and pork, yeah, pork,

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Speaker 4: I don't. I'll leave pork all day.

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Speaker 1: So how do you just decide to do what you want?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: But okay, so you had a choice at some point.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just differently.

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Speaker 11: I mean, if you're Orthodox and this and that where

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Speaker 5: I I have a friend who's such an Orthodox Jew.

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Speaker 5: I said, so, I don't understand if they're in love

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Speaker 5: and it's a He goes, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 11: What's important for me though, within Judaism is just the traditions.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's just so you don't have two dishwashers

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Speaker 9: to refrigerators and no.

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Speaker 4: But I had friends that had two separate kitchens.

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Speaker 1: Two kitchens yeah, yeah, wait, explain that to one is

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Speaker 1: from milk, one is for.

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Speaker 4: Meat, that's right.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And if you go to if you go to

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Speaker 11: like any place that's kosher, like they're okay, So the

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Speaker 11: bagel place near my house is kosher, and you can't

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Speaker 11: get sausage or bacon or hammer any of that.

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Speaker 4: It's just dairy. That's it.

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Speaker 9: But but to your point, I think Nate was asking

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Speaker 9: you needed the separate kitchens because and the separate plates

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Speaker 9: because the milk stuff can't touch, right, the meat stuff.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you washed this, it's got to

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Speaker 4: be separate wash.

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Speaker 6: You have to bury a plate or something, right, bury

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Speaker 6: a plate, Yeah, like if they.

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Speaker 4: Touched, don't you know more about it than I do.

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Speaker 9: Places they serve either milk products or beef products me,

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Speaker 9: but not both.

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Speaker 5: And they also sometimes will say, you know, we use

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Speaker 5: separate cutlery, separate whatever to cut this, so that very

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Speaker 5: kosher people don't have to worry about it.

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Speaker 9: My friend moved into a house with two dishwashers and

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Speaker 9: two things, like what's going on here? They were they

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Speaker 9: were it was formerly owned by the city Jewish.

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Speaker 11: Right, And do you know that, like really really religious

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Speaker 11: Jewish people on the Sabbath, they really can't do it.

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Speaker 11: They don't drive or anything like that, and they can't

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Speaker 11: even there are Sabbath elevators in some buildings in the

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Speaker 11: can't push the buttons.

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Speaker 5: That with everything nowadays changing and the world changing the

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Speaker 5: way that it is, and we're given so many of

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Speaker 5: these privileges. I inspect these religions that stick to their

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Speaker 5: traditions and that their beliefs, and they don't Saturday is

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Speaker 5: like considered a holy day and they don't drive, and

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Speaker 5: they want like to me, that's like wow, you know,

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Speaker 5: because it gets harder and harder to do those things.

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Speaker 4: That's the core of it.

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Speaker 8: I think you just need to be a good person. Yes,

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Speaker 8: of course you have two refrigerators, or you say the

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Speaker 8: masks the way that they used to twenty years ago.

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Speaker 1: If you're not a good person, none of that.

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Speaker 11: Mass see, from my experience, with each generation, it gets

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Speaker 11: less and less less. Because my friends that had the

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Speaker 11: separate kitchens. Their kids were kind of kosher, and their

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Speaker 11: kids they don't care. So it just it just kind

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Speaker 11: of dissipates over time.

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Speaker 6: Indian people have two kitchens. It's not religious, they just

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Speaker 6: have a kitchen that's got more ventilation so that like

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Speaker 6: the smells don't sink into the furniture, like a lot

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Speaker 9: I grew up in a Jewish area, you know, we

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Speaker 9: actually all lived in adjacent neighborhoods. And when I went

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Speaker 9: for a hospital visit and I got on the Sabbath

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Speaker 9: elevator on a Saturday once and I'm sitting there and

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Speaker 9: I had to go to like the eighth floor for

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Speaker 9: the visit, stopping on.

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Speaker 4: Two and three and four and five. I know some

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Speaker 4: kid was in there that pushed all the buttons.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but I mean none of the buttons were lit.

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Speaker 9: I'm like, what's going on here? But that's when I

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Speaker 9: learned about it. So it's kind of become part of

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Speaker 9: my life and my experiences, so you know, I don't

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Speaker 9: really look at it weird.

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Speaker 4: I just, uh, you know, I'm like, okay, cool.

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Speaker 8: You know, I took a World Religions class in college,

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Speaker 8: and I wish I had taken that when I was seven,

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Speaker 8: because I realized that that age boy, Taoism is so

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Speaker 8: cool and it's basically just being in touch with nature, right,

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Speaker 8: it's not you know, you've got a genuflect and Daniel,

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Speaker 8: you know you've got to do all these certain things

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Speaker 8: when you go into a Catholic church, and God knows,

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Speaker 8: I love.

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Speaker 5: The word genuflect.

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Speaker 3: I'm back, badcast. We're still talking about that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, was a religion.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have one.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about the Jewish traditions. Now we've moved on.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever taken religion classes?

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Speaker 1: And I realized that after taking.

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Speaker 7: A Yeah, I've found it fascinating. And I found that

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Speaker 7: each and every religion that we studied had bits and

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Speaker 7: pieces of beautiful, beautiful, beautiful things that could all be

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Speaker 7: made into one super religion.

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Speaker 6: And oftentimes they have pieces of other religions that they've

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Speaker 6: clearly taken inspiration from.

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Speaker 8: Notice, why do all of the holidays in all of

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Speaker 8: the major faiths really kind of land around the same time.

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Speaker 4: Why is that nate?

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Speaker 8: Because it was festivals and they just kind of piggybacked

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Speaker 8: off all of these other religions, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, like Sheldon's Episcopalian and we're Catholic, and it's very

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Speaker 5: very similar. I went to an Episcopalian church in England

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Speaker 5: and the man and I said, this is the same.

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Speaker 9: The same.

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Speaker 4: They're more fun, but.

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Speaker 5: They have less rules than the kid. Yes, Catholic church.

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Speaker 6: Yes, well, like the story of Moses being floated down

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Speaker 6: the river and the story of Christiana being floated down

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Speaker 6: the river are almost the.

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Speaker 3: Same story, suspect.

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Speaker 4: So I got back to some time to say goodbye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the podcast is done.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad we had this time together, even though my

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Speaker 7: time with you was shorter, and the rest of us

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Speaker 7: have beautiful egg

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Speaker 2: The Elvis DA ran after party, mm hmm