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Speaker 1: There's no conspiracy against our children. It's just an old system.

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Speaker 1: When we were off of when we were at war,

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Speaker 1: know financial intelligence. But if our system is not teaching

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Speaker 1: the financial intelligence, what does taxes used for? What happens

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Speaker 1: with money and how you use it? And that at

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Speaker 1: sixteen years old, predatory people can market them credit cards

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Speaker 1: and school loans for the status today that a child

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Speaker 1: graduating today, fifty percent of those children will retire with

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Speaker 1: a job title that doesn't exist today. What if I

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Speaker 1: told you there was more to the story behind game

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Speaker 1: changing events? Get ready for my new podcast, That Moment

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Speaker 1: with Damon John will jump into the personal stories of

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Speaker 1: some of the most influential people on the planet, from

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Speaker 1: business mobiles and celebrities to athletes and artist.

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Speaker 2: The hard part about this about interviewing you, y is

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Speaker 2: you and I have got to become let's say, pretty your friends.

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Speaker 2: Over the last year or so. I say that you don't, yeah,

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Speaker 2: not good great friends, and so One of the challenges

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Speaker 2: with this is making sure that I can ask questions

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Speaker 2: that benefit the audience and then you never heard before

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Speaker 2: an answer ideally yeah, as opposed to just coming up

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Speaker 2: here and telling inside jokes and you know, stupid nineties

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Speaker 2: movies quotes, because that's normally what we do when we

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Speaker 2: hang out. So I'm gonna endeavor next. I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: got that. By the way, So you were doing influencer

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Speaker 2: marketing before was a thing, right, I think so?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in a sense, yes, and before it is what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, think about it and so and for those of

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Speaker 2: you who don't know, except don't because that was not

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Speaker 2: a that was a gap commercials and.

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Speaker 1: They've spent thirty million dollars airing that, Yeah, it did.

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Speaker 1: Call You'll see a fool hat in there. They called him,

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Speaker 1: and he said listen because he felt disrespected in the

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Speaker 1: just like, listen, just show up, shut up, show up.

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Speaker 1: Do this commercial. He said, I wear a custom made hack.

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Speaker 1: I got a funny shaped head. Can I wear this? Sure,

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Speaker 1: no problem whatever. But in that he did acapella any

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Speaker 1: before US bias and low. Now, if you like movies

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Speaker 1: like you and I do in Airplane, do you remember it?

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Speaker 2: Excuse me? Do you speak job? I speak jab He

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Speaker 1: But throughout that commercial what happened was and there was

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Speaker 1: no social So somebody may be saying, here now for

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Speaker 1: the younger people the audience, why didn't they just pull

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Speaker 2: They couldn't pull the ad.

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Speaker 1: They already when you were shoot an ad back then,

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Speaker 1: you would have to wait sixty to ninety days for

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Speaker 1: couldn't pull back the buy thirty million dollars. So what

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Speaker 1: happened is they fired everybody on the gap. But then

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Speaker 1: they hired their version of you. They hired a multicultural agency.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you need to be multicultural, but

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Speaker 1: what they did is when they hired a multicolorsual agency

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Speaker 1: and said get rid of this. They said hold on it,

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Speaker 1: I'm from the hood. Let me tell you something. You're

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Speaker 1: looking at the data. You're looking at the wrong data.

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Speaker 2: Check this out.

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Speaker 1: They looked at the data, they realized the target market

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Speaker 1: So they called this up we get which are the

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Speaker 2: So again, you did it. You got l to come in.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think the in marketing, no matter what

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Speaker 1: She said, meet my sister and Chloe and she became

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Speaker 2: My buddies at Jordash were relaunching. Trust me.

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Speaker 1: just that people sometimes need this validation that somebody's great.

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Speaker 1: But you know I did that too with Fubu. When

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Speaker 3: Why Nielsen rating, that's how they rate them. I ain't

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Speaker 3: It's common sense sometimes that people don't think about it.

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Speaker 3: And then with the brilliant people's room, with that data,

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Speaker 2: I So what I heard there is if somebody is

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Speaker 1: I think, give it to you and dating dating lingo.

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Speaker 2: Go ugly.

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Speaker 1: Early one of my friends were glad of the night

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Speaker 1: and like, hey man, I'm cool. Yeah, two to ten

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Speaker 1: One of my other friends said, he you know when

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Speaker 1: How many mistakes did they make for on the way

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Speaker 2: Of what are your use of proceeds?

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Speaker 1: Well, if you tell me you're gonna go spend half

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Speaker 1: You know nothing is static. You know you get on

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Speaker 1: shark Tank. Well, then I have to I don't have

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Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna give you the answers ahead of time.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's hard because the producers do it really

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Speaker 1: people's successful people. First of all, there's a burden that

437
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 1: comes of being successful that everybody thinks that you're taking

438
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: advantage of people. Also, if I knew what you could

439
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: do for me, I'll give that job to somebody else. Right,

440
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: You're supposed to do it, free, bake it, bring it in,

441
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: and I go, holy shit, I didn't even know I

442
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: needed it. Isn't that the same thing that you do

443
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: when you sell product services? Somebody didn't know they needed it.

444
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 1: They thought they were okay with this, They didn't know

445
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: they needed you until they realized how much goddamn better

446
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: you were because this was the only thing they had

447
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: to compare it to. And that's what generally happens with people.

448
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 1: You know, they don't know that Bomba Socks is going

449
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: to be great until they realize my other sock company

450
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: is not giving to.

451
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: Homeless they are. So you just save me time.

452
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to go to the homeless shelter, but

453
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: I can brag at the dinner table that I gave

454
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: the homeless, you know. So it really is about how

455
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: do you surround like you said, and not be the

456
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, thirsty.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh I love yeah, I love that. I want

458
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: to go back to young damon. You got a time machine? Yeah, right,

459
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: you go back, and you go back in time and

460
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: you meet in the hallway this crew including you. Yeah,

461
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: they just lift that interview and you go there and

462
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: you go, hey, come here, what do you whisper in

463
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 2: your own ear? Back? Then we'll see. I should give

464
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: yourself if you go back in time. You know.

465
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: But I'm a different person now, but I would think

466
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: i'd say, first of all, get rid of all the

467
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: people around.

468
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: You're not all of them. Get it with a tighter crew.

469
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like you werehearse what was going to

470
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: be what you were going to say in that room,

471
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: and did you ask what was going to happen prior?

472
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 1: Did you prepare yourself for that room? Because you know

473
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: you may get into the room with somebody to pitch,

474
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: and the right questions often is why are you doing this?

475
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: So what's in it for you?

476
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: People are often in shar Tank, Well, damon, I want

477
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: you in here because you want You're in clothing in

478
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: clothing business. I got into shar Tank because it was

479
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: eight and when people weren't couldn't pay their mortgage and

480
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: know eight, the last thing they could do on was

481
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 1: buying clothing lines. I had ten clothing lines and eight

482
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: of them were dead. So what I realized was that

483
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: I wasn't a great designer. Putting a big fbing O

484
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 1: five on a shirt is not a great designer. I'm

485
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: a great manufacturing distributor, and I know and I have

486
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: a lot of celebrity contacts, so I have the pipes,

487
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: and I know the buyers at Macy's and JC Penny's

488
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: and what's in it for them? Well, if I can

489
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: acquire more brands such as clothing and plates, and I

490
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: mean women's and makeup and various other things electronics, I

491
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: can now because I'm a trusted vendor, I can then

492
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: deal with them, and they have to deal with that

493
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: many less new brands, brands that are proven because I've

494
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: acquired it. But they know that I'll take the goods back.

495
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: They know that I'm going to support them in advertising marketing.

496
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: You know what's gonna happen. They're gonna get to go

497
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: on vacation earlier with their family and they're not gonna

498
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: get yelled at by their boss. That's my value. I'm

499
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: going on a shark thing to buy everything else but clothing.

500
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: But you are pitching me clothing. Or you say you

501
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: take money from somebody and you go, well, you know,

502
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: how come you going to show up at work. I'm

503
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: investing money because I want fifteen percent or ten percent

504
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: on interest on my on my on my on my money.

505
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you I was gonna show up. Or

506
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: my husband loves cars, and before I put a million

507
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: dollar in his business, I want him to work within

508
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: your business. So I realized that potentially is there something there,

509
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: Or I like what you're doing for philanthropy, but you

510
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: think I just want to give you money for the

511
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: wrong reason.

512
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Speaker 2: You don't ask the right questions you made. I'm guessing

513
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: and I know this for a fact because you're an

514
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: entrepreneur and we talked about it. But I mean, you've

515
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: had You've made some really brilliant business moves, and you've

516
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: made some less brilliant business moves. What would you say

517
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: to yourself back then to avoid some of the less

518
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: good business moves? The less business the.

519
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: Business moves that were never great were due to either

520
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: my ego, not trusting my gut, or not doing it.

521
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: Because I loved it. Give me an example.

522
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: My ego was I did a brand call Heather at

523
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: the one that I met Kim at. The two designers

524
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: were absolutely brilliant people, but they were couture designers. They

525
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: would they were the fooboo of their world for young

526
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: women between probably about fourteen to twenty four. But every

527
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: major brand like Jillett or this and that would give

528
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: them during fashion week, Hey take our runways. Naomi CAMPBELLI

529
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: walked the word way for free. They were the darling

530
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: and people would write about.

531
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Speaker 2: Them for free.

532
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: So I said, listen, there's millions of dollars advertising here,

533
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: but they're not selling any ready to wear.

534
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: Let me, you know, buy the company.

535
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about women's wear, and if you

536
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: know anything about designing. You know, if a man where

537
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: if both of us wear whatever cases right, thirty two

538
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty six, there's thirty two long, there's

539
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: thirty two short, there's thirty two slim, thirty two baggy.

540
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: If a woman wears a size eight, there's twenty four

541
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Speaker 1: size eights. The gap back in the back, all right,

542
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: gaps in the back, thicker, thigh, center, thigh, is a stretch,

543
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: boot cut, flare cut, fly cut, crotch, all kind of

544
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: shit going on here, all right, Because it's getting tighter

545
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: to the body. And when a woman is under forty,

546
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: all she cares about is the way her heiny looks.

547
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: She doesn't care as long as her dairy air looks amazing.

548
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: When she gets over forty, generally it's the sleeves, how

549
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: the arms look right, and the tighter the garment gets

550
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: to the body, the more critical woman is. And as

551
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I shared earlier, when a woman doesn't know a brand,

552
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: what does she do? She buys two sizes because she

553
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: buys one, and that sends out the back. I lost

554
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: six million dollars on that business because I didn't know

555
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: what I was doing in the ego of Damon John

556
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: Because I'm a manufacturer was the one that failed because

557
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: you know what happened the two partners, brilliant costume designers,

558
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: being a custom and costume designer putting Naomi Campbell, the

559
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: sexiest model in the world, on a runway with an

560
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: ace bandage just over the important parts and a garbage

561
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: fail on her head and the spray paint her red.

562
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: And kick her out to the damn thing.

563
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: You know that ain't something you could buy off the rack.

564
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: My ego got in the way. And so what happens

565
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: was my ego got in the way. So salespeople always

566
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: sell you boss. They would buy the line this season,

567
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: but you didn't make purple. Now they got themselves a

568
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: job for six more months.

569
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Speaker 2: So that was my ego. And at the end of

570
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: the day, out of the ten decisions.

571
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: I made for businesses, eight of them, if I didn't

572
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: trust my gut, eight of them failed them. The two

573
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: that even I made money on or with some level

574
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: of success, I went like this, Thank God I got

575
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: out of it. I just didn't trust my ego, And

576
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: your ego is a direct line to your belly button

577
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: of you can't necessarily articulate why you don't want to

578
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: do it, But you don't have to articulate that.

579
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: Fuck that. That's your gut, it's nobody else's.

580
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: And I don't care if the person looks good, the

581
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: number looks like I don't fucking like it. But there'll

582
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: be a lot of people right here.

583
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: No, no, on a Ryan, you're the man.

584
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: Because all they care about is what's in it for them.

585
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: So how do you balance that though, as an entrepreneur,

586
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: because obviously you need a strong ego as an entrepreneur.

587
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: If you don't have an ego, you're not gonna be

588
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur because of an ego and what you do best. Yeah.

589
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: True entrepreneur is the most vulnerable people in the room

590
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: because they walk in the room and they say, I

591
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: know this, I don't know all this. You can help

592
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: me with this. I will bust my ass to help

593
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: you with that. And by the way, I'm gonna do

594
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: these ship regardless. So if you're helping me, it's fine.

595
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: If you're not, somebody else is and I'm gonna double

596
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: that return for them.

597
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Thank you. You've you've written a number

598
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: of books. I'll list a couple of them out if

599
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: you don't have them. By the way I'd get on

600
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: Amazon and get these display of power brand within Power Shift,

601
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: Rise and Grind. I know that one. There's a chapter

602
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: that's right with Ryan and there's yeah, I mean it's

603
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: it's it's obviously the best one. I'm phenomenal. I'm sorry,

604
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: actually make the wrong damn book. Power Broke is the

605
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: one that making a movie of that that that chapter,

606
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: and most recently Little Damon Learns to Earn. So I'm

607
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: just curious, Like this is a bit like asking you

608
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: which one of your kids is your favorite, but like

609
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: which one of your books Little Dame Lens earned, Yeah,

610
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: Little Damon Learns Earned. Yeah, I don't like it was quick.

611
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't like adults anymore. You know, we're all jaded

612
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: by one way or another. And I'll write people, I'll

613
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: write these books, and I don't like writing books.

614
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm just like sic.

615
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: I write books of the most commonly things I'm asked

616
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: all the time. And if I can't say going to

617
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: a Ryan's book, or go to a Lewis Howe or

618
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: Tim Ferriss or Damon John Tony Robbins, whatever the case is,

619
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: I write down goldie shit, and then after a while

620
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I go let me write a book. I may do

621
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: one last book for adults, but adults, you know, we're

622
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: all who we are, right, I'll tell people all this

623
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: stuff and they think I'm holding back life from them,

624
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: or I'll give them and we are just all what

625
00:30:40,480 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: we are, what we are and when we are. And

626
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: so I'll write books and I'll go man. I wrote

627
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: a whole book on that, but when I am breaking

628
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: the system Now in America, off of Little Dama Learns

629
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: to Earn is the number one picture book in the

630
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: country the last two years. It is about entrepreneurship and

631
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: why I wrote it was the system is broken, and

632
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to empower the system. And I want There's

633
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: many people way more brilliant than I who've met, who

634
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: made books like that, who made me not had the

635
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: public stage, and I want people to compete with me

636
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: now and see how good it was, and build and

637
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: do that, and let schools do that and break this system.

638
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: But when I sit and talk to these beautiful little

639
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: six year old, seven year old, eight years old, and

640
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: they mind starts to open up over this, whether that

641
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: little piece of information I gave them how to be

642
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur they use it today or thirty years from now.

643
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 1: I have hope and I believe in our children. Children

644
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: are the you know, the most beautiful thing in this world.

645
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to another adult about that.

646
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: Ship company present company excluded.

647
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that that it's so passionate because you see

648
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: the little kids of these beautiful eyes going I'm gonna

649
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: do this, damon, and I'm just really passionate about it.

650
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: So what's your vision behind that? What's your vision? Like,

651
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do with that? Because you wrote

652
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: a book and you're gonna you know, I'm.

653
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: Gonna do more stuff behind it. But the bottom line

654
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: is we are living off of a broken school system.

655
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: That there is an unlike Cuban who's taking on a

656
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: real conspiracy and or situation. We're bringing and he's trying

657
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: to he's trying to bring affordable drugs and.

658
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: So go to uh what is this thing called cast?

659
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

660
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: Cost plus cost plus dot com.

661
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: I keep telling him it's the stupidest name ever. Regular

662
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: regular people don't understand what costs plus means. That sounds dangerous, right,

663
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: But for an eighty dollar pillo, you can get it

664
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: from Cuban for two dollars. He's trying to break this

665
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: drug system them in this country. I don't have that issue.

666
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: There's no conspiracy against our children. It's just an old

667
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: system when we were off of when we were at war,

668
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: they taught you how to be a great employee, you know,

669
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: and they taught you shop and skills like that. Kids

670
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: don't need to be a great employee. They need to

671
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: know how to run their businesses and they need to

672
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: know financial intelligence. But if our system is not teaching

673
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: the financial intelligence, what does taxes used for?

674
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: What happens with money and how you use it?

675
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: And then at sixteen years old, predatory people can market

676
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: them credit cards and school loans for the status today

677
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: that a child graduating today. Fifty percent of those children

678
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: will retire with a job title that doesn't exist today.

679
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: That's like telling a kid twenty years ago they were

680
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: going to be a traffic and conversion pay per click expert,

681
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: a drone operator. So how are you going to go

682
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: and have seven hundred thousand dollars worth of student debt

683
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: for a career that you're not sure you want to have,

684
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: and then you're not going to pay it off into

685
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: your fifties Because what happens when you have a lack

686
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: of money, right, think about it, right for our children?

687
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: What happened when you have a lot of money. Domestic

688
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: violence goes up right, all gangs. It's hard to eat

689
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: clean in this country. And the cheapest things to make

690
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: in this country made of butter, sugar, and salt. And

691
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, now you have diabetes because

692
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: you have a bad diet because you.

693
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 2: Didn't have money.

694
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: And if we teach our kids this like little Dame

695
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: learns to earn a six, seven, eight, nine years old,

696
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: you think you need to teach them at twenty. You

697
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: teach your kid how to play sports at twenty, and

698
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: then put them on a field with some four hundred

699
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: pound line backer trying to eat their lunch. You teach

700
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: them how to play an instrument at twenty and put

701
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: them right in the orchestra. You teach them at six,

702
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: you teach them at seven.

703
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: And that is my job.

704
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the goddamn grave breaking this system.

705
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: Love it, man, love it, love it, love it is.

706
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: It is truly a tragedy. My first business that I

707
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: that I ran, I got to where I I owed

708
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: a quarter million dollars to the irs because I didn't

709
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: pay taxes, which that's how you owe the Irs money,

710
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: by the way, you just don't pay them. You know,

711
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: I didn't pay them. I didn't know what I was

712
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: supposed to. Nobody's teaching this stuff. And when I think

713
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: about it, if this was a part of the curriculum,

714
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: if we were teaching the kids to basically be these

715
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: cogs in a machine, what if we taught them to

716
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: be the machine? You know how amazing would that would

717
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: that be?

718
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't and if you don't pay

719
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: taxes honestly, you know the irs if you if you pay,

720
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: if you pay your federal then you may get penalized

721
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: ten percent.

722
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: The states will hit you at twenty something percent.

723
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: Your bill at forty thousand dollars or twenty thousand dollars

724
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: will be three hundred thousand dollars in a matter of

725
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: no time.

726
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: And then you have to go on the ground or

727
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: are you going to go to jail? And nobody's teaching

728
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff the kids. Again, I plaud your efforts,

729
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: so I want to bring it up. And if you

730
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: have not bought how many on your have bought little

731
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: little damulers earn? If not enough man y'all need to

732
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 2: get out there and get that book, buy for every

733
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: child in your life.

734
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't want people to think about

735
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: this as us trying to sling books, because we're not.

736
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: I want you guys to all empower your children. And

737
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: you know what, because I'm gonna want I want you

738
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: all to be selfish. I'm gonna tell you something for

739
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: you to be really selfish about right now. The stat

740
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: is that your kids will take care of you two

741
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: times longer than you took care of them. So if

742
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: you don't want to sit outside of Pigley Wigy with

743
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: a shitty diaper, you better teach some some financial intelligence, homies.

744
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: It isn't that right? And that really I should have

745
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: wont a little dave learner you want to eat that I.

746
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Want to talk about I know in this kind of

747
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: and you imagine what we talk about on Shark thanking.

748
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: Whoa dude? Yes, because I've had the privilege of being there. Yeah,

749
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: that's right. And here's what you don't know. And most

750
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: of y'all, a lot of y'all stop stop drinking, but

751
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: they used to drink on set and they film all day.

752
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: So some of those, uh, some of those by the

753
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: end of the day.

754
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: Well, we didn't even start a committing Well, we would

755
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: come in a little extra crispy sometimes from hanging out

756
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: at night.

757
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: Now we shoot. We shoot two weeks in June, two

758
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: weeks in September, and we shoot ten hours straight in

759
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: average up.

760
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: So we're up because schedules so tight. Get up in

761
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: the five o'clock in the morning, get in the chair,

762
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: you know, the shark tank chair. By the time I'm

763
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: in there at nine, I'm done in nine. I have

764
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: one hour during that day to answer all my emails,

765
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, all the company business deals and how my

766
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: wife tell me I ain't shit for about ten minutes

767
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: and then which is their job?

768
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: No, no, that's their job. Get back to that ego.

769
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: Thank Youeping up fair yet?

770
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: So you don't want to be the ninety ninth pitch

771
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: coming in after two weeks and we're extra chrismy.

772
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're hammered. I want to switching gears completely.

773
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the role of mentors in

774
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: your life. Yes, you and I share a couple of mentors.

775
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: You've been a mentor of mine. I just want to

776
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: know what what are some of the mentors that have

777
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: been in your life, and like, how how is mentorship

778
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: in general like play a role in your development?

779
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Mentors have been huge, but you know, at the bottom

780
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: line and when business, mentors will at the end of

781
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: the day tell you three things. You know, don't take

782
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: him money too soon, don't scale too quick, and don't

783
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: spread yourself too thin. But mentors. I love mentors who

784
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: don't need me. You know that's you know, explain that well.

785
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's so like I'm not a big real

786
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: estate guy myself, but my guys who are really big guys,

787
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: My money is pure crackhead money.

788
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: To them, They're like, what am I doing with that?

789
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: Well?

790
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: Can you put this to work? Why?

791
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: Because your wife wants to open a lotion company? You

792
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: want to talk to there? Oh oh, so you want

793
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: to be in on this one.

794
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

795
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: They don't need me, right, and I don't need them right.

796
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: So I love mentors like a Jay Abraham and things

797
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: of that nature. But even and we have a group

798
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: Rise Nation mastermind. The great thing about what we do

799
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: is when I see that people don't when we're in

800
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: the room and as you rolling and myself we're in

801
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: the room, as the advisors potentially but the members are

802
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: getting answers from other members so much. I love all

803
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: forms of mentorship. Even my daughters have a form of

804
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: reverse mentorship. When Chara Tank was starting to take off

805
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: and I had to have these acquisitions in all these

806
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: areas I used to go into.

807
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 2: My daughter was right about seventeen. At that time, she

808
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: was in her room.

809
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: I started to notice TV's going away, you know, as

810
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: I think Gary Vee said TV was becoming radio. The

811
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: computer of the phone was becoming TV in a room

812
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: on her computer, skyping with her boyfriend on It was

813
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: Snapchat at the time, right, So she's an Apple computer

814
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: sniping Da Da da da. She's shopping on Amazon, and

815
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: she's doing her homework and lying to me all at

816
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: the same time. I bought every stock of what she

817
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: was doing. I bought Apple, I bought snap I bought Facebook,

818
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: I had Instagram whatever the case is. And Amazon, uh,

819
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: Amazon and Amazon. Look where I'm at today? Yeah, And

820
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: she was shopping on Shopify. I was Shopify thirty dollars.

821
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: I went up to nineteen hundred wolf.

822
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: That was a good bye. I didn't have to call anybody,

823
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: I didn't have to look at any inventory.

824
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: I didn't have to do anything, and so she's a

825
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: mentor of mine instead of you know, Opparentsly said.

826
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: What are you doing? I go no, no, no, no,

827
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: what are you doing? So what so you and you

828
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: mentioned it? We started a group rise mastermind. Yeah, why, like,

829
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: what why do you want to do that? Because you

830
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 2: said it before last I checked? You're doing okay financially, right,

831
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, and you joke before like you don't need

832
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: people to buy books. You know you don't. You're not

833
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: writing a book to get rich or to get famous. Yeah,

834
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: check and check. You want to start you know you came.

835
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: We're having a discussion about starting an entrepreneurial mastermind. That's

836
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: something that Frankly, again, if any all in the room,

837
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about you, but there's a lot of

838
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: people out there who have started masterminds because let's be honest,

839
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: they don't actually know how to do real business, and

840
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: so they want to go out there and teach other

841
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: people how to do that because that's easier. And so

842
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: here you are. You made it. You could go and

843
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: hang up, you could go and chill. Why out of

844
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: all of the things that you could be doing, you

845
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: mentioned one of them that you're doing right now is

846
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: you got the book and you want to educate the future.

847
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: But why a mastermind? Why am I on Shark Tank?

848
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: Is the same thing?

849
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: And why is people like And by the way, all

850
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: this Cuban leaving Shark Tank. Cuban said he was leaving

851
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: Shark Tank after season sixteen. That means by the time

852
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: he leaves and stops talking about Sharktank, he'll be twenty

853
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: twenty five. Why is Cuban on Shark Tank? Why is

854
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: Richard Branson on Shartank? Why are all the shots on shartank?

855
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: Because we get to lift up and look underneath the

856
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: hoods of groundbreaking people who will take no for a

857
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: fucking will. They will never take no for a fucking answer.

858
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: And we're looking at these people and you are getting

859
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: to see how they're operating, where things are going, and

860
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: we're seeing the ring doorbells, the scrub daddies and the

861
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: bomb of socks before anybody's ever seeing these things. And

862
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: we're seeing people with real time issues. You know, if

863
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: you go into a group of AA and you know

864
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: for smoking and various other things, and I have a

865
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: massive amount of respect for that, you need mental health,

866
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: But you keep telling somebody to start smoking.

867
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Speaker 2: There's no real reason that they need to or not.

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Speaker 2: That is up to them.

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Speaker 1: When you are in a business, you are either scaling

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00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: or you're done. You're done sooner or later. If you're

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00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: not scaling, you're done one year or five years, but

872
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: you're done. And when you have people in the room

873
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Speaker 1: doing five and ten and twenty million, they're solving real day,

874
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: real time issues. And when we are now in these

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00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: passing rooms the way we are, we're no longer next

876
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: to each other in office. We're all spread around the world.

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00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: We're not talking to each other. Well, we're on these

878
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: zooms where where our eyes are blazing over. We don't

879
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: want to interrupt everybody else. We've got to walk the

880
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Speaker 1: goddamn dog.

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Speaker 2: Right.

882
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: If you don't have time to have these micro meetings,

883
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: but if you can meet with people three separate times

884
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: over two days enough in a year, you see they're

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Speaker 1: solving real problems. They I was saying it outside. They

886
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: can't tell these problems to somebody doing a million when

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00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: they're doing two million, because that person's been doing a

888
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: million and is only doing a million. They got million

889
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: dollar problems and they can't tell it to somebody doing

890
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: one hundred and two hundred three hundred million. These people,

891
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: so they're in the middle of this kind of fluctuation

892
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: of trying to grow and they need real answers, and

893
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: I get to see them solving those real answers. And

894
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: just like on Shark Tank, I get to sit with

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00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: you guys and we're seeing this and we're advising and

896
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 1: somehow we're going, oh shit, amazing. And it's also reinforcing something.

897
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: When you live in this ivory tower and you just

898
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: think and have your people tell you what's going on,

899
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: you almost never get the real data. That's how you

900
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: see most of these companies collapse because you know the

901
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: CEO shuts start showing up a day late to the

902
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: conference and leaving a day early, have your people talk

903
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: to my people, and you get lazy.

904
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Speaker 2: I don't like it. I'm not getting lazy. So this

905
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: is about of staying in the game.

906
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: This is about if I'm gonna be in the game.

907
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay in the game. If not, I let

908
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: my money work for me and I just will go home.

909
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: My wife will tell me to empty the garbage, you

910
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: moron every five hours, and I'll.

911
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: Just be sitting there going. I used to be damon John.

912
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: I love my wife, by the way a lot. So

913
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Speaker 2: the for everybody who's out there, I mean, would you

914
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: say that every entrepreneur should be in some type of community,

915
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: some type of mastermind. Of course you have to be

916
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: in some kind of community.

917
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Speaker 1: I mean you look at the Diamond District in New

918
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Speaker 1: York City. They're all on forty seventh Street for a reason,

919
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: best practices. They're seeing what's going on, what's hurting each other.

920
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we are pack animals. We love communicating, and

921
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: you want to communicate the speed of light. But communicating

922
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: through screens just doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: Man. You know, when you have fifty people in the room,

924
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: forget even mastermind, when you have fifty people in your office,

925
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: you know how many of these? Hey, you know what

926
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: that means? We really had I thought of something else. Talk.

927
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Speaker 2: You won't come back from month.

928
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Speaker 3: You know.

929
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Speaker 2: That's having fifty times a day by fifty people.

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Speaker 1: You're cutting that curve right Or I'm in the meeting

931
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Speaker 1: with ten people. Hey, so Forthy, Juliet, you'll work with Chauncey.

932
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: I can't see that on the zoom afterwards. Hey, he

933
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: had a problem. Chauncey doesn't everybody have rama Chauncy.

934
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Speaker 2: Chauncey's a real person by the way he is, and

935
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: that's how I feel about him.

936
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Speaker 1: But it's about being you know, it is about being

937
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: together collectively, and that's how you get innovation. Innovation is

938
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: really people forcing themselves onto an idea. I mean that

939
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: tech innovation sye. Tech doesn't have a tech doesn't have

940
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: a personality, right, So you create the Apple Watch and

941
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: you create this and text us to merge because people say,

942
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: why can't I put it together? It's an easy answer,

943
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: but people are very complex and as we merge, and

944
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: that's why food will got to be so big because

945
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: go back to that story. Once I saw that interaction,

946
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: if that was on zoom, I wouldn't have known what

947
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: happened to those clothes.

948
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Speaker 2: Well, I thank you for your friendship. I think you

949
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: for your mentorship. I'm excited we could have spend twenty

950
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: twenty four hanging out at least a few times. We're

951
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: gonna be hanging out in back in Vegas. We're hanging

952
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: out in La La. Yeah. Might even be able to

953
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: get a little backstage tour of the Shark Tank sets

954
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: of those of you who join us. There and and

955
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Speaker 2: in your hometown of Miami, So Town, Miami.

956
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: We had a We had a great I love the

957
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: fact that we we do opening parties for the Riding Mastermind.

958
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: Now why I just invite this like a room of

959
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: one hundred important people. Yeah, they may not even be

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00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: in the Mastermind. They just pop up and you know,

961
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Speaker 1: like David Grutman was the last one. Mark Anthony was there.

962
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: I don't know where he was. No, it was other Mark,

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00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: A bunch of people, Rohan Oza popped up, Nellie Galan.

964
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Speaker 2: A lot of people just pop up. So we have

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Speaker 2: a good time. Yeah, well, I'll tell you if you

966
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Speaker 2: want to join us rizationmastermind dot com. Also if you

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00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: head by the Digital Marketer booth, we got members of

968
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Speaker 2: the of the team that are there. We'd love if

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Speaker 2: you're a high performance entrepreneur, I want to hang out

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Speaker 2: with some more. We'd love to hang out with you

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. With that said, let's give this

972
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Speaker 2: man a big, big, big round of applause.

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Speaker 1: Dame of John, Ladies and gentlemen, That Moment with Damon

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Speaker 1: John is a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: rate the show. And of course you didn't all connect

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Speaker 1: the Shark, Damon spelled like Raymond, but what a d