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Speaker 1: My boyfriend's family is forcing me to wear this for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: No, here's what I'm gonna do, Christmas lingerie with like

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Speaker 2: the Rudolph noses right on the nipples.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the whole family making you wear that.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. Your mother in law is like, sweetie, I

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Speaker 1: really want a baby for Christmas this year. So here's

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Speaker 1: a little something I gave you to get the vibes going.

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Speaker 2: You know how you get those vibes going, you act

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Speaker 2: like a ho ho ho.

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Speaker 3: Christmas came early, all right.

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Speaker 1: My boyfriend and I have been dating for a few months,

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Speaker 1: and he invited me to meet his family for the

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Speaker 1: first time for Christmas dinner. Little high steaks, little high steaks,

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Speaker 1: first time, first time, a few months.

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Speaker 2: Oh high steaks? Like what, like, are we talking three?

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Speaker 3: A few? Could be three? Could be three?

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Speaker 2: No more than three? Right, he would say six months?

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Speaker 2: If it was six, yeah, three, three months to Christmas

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Speaker 2: dinner feels too long.

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Speaker 3: I feel like yo, babes for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: No, we've hooked definitely, like three times. But you know,

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Speaker 2: let's took him there, took him there. You know, nothing

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Speaker 2: hotter than hooking up than my childhood bedroom.

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Speaker 3: I'm not just trying to stuff this turkey. If you

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Speaker 3: catch my.

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Speaker 2: Dress, stuff you, Oh goodness, take a slice of that

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Speaker 2: Christmas ass and a little Christmas ham ho ho ho.

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Speaker 2: You know we can, you can unwrap my dick and

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Speaker 2: we can do it raw.

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Speaker 1: Riley, no sex, Oh my god. According to him, it's

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Speaker 1: his brothers. He has three family tradition to make new

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Speaker 1: partners wear an ugly Christmas sweater of their choosing as

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Speaker 1: a rite of passage his words for entering the family.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's kind of cute, kind of.

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Speaker 1: Cute, but three months in as a right of passage

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Speaker 1: for entering the family, that's like a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe they're like Southern or something and they

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Speaker 2: do things quick over there. Maybe maybe right right, wait,

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Speaker 2: how long has tape and Riley? How long has tapeen

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Speaker 2: dating his girl friend? So he didn't bring her to

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Speaker 2: it would have been like week Christmas? Right, Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: didn't bring it her Christmas last.

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Speaker 4: Year she brought it. He brought it a Thanksgiving last year?

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Speaker 4: Oh dude?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Or no, this past Thanksgiving he brought her Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so like a year ago.

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Speaker 3: Mixed signal hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 4: Riley, yes to this recording, it has.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, so Thanksgiving twenty okay, right, their move,

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Speaker 1: that's right.

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Speaker 3: So so he brought her a year basically, so okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think she did show up to last Christmas.

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Speaker 4: I can't really remember because she got so integrated into

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Speaker 4: the family.

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Speaker 3: Pretty okay, all right, maybe maybe we'll find out the

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Speaker 3: true origins of op.

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Speaker 2: I did invite Arianna down to Tahoe. I mean, it's different,

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Speaker 2: but like with all my friends, second week of knowing

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Speaker 2: her on like a.

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Speaker 1: But family if you're going with just you and your parents'

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Speaker 1: stas family, who is like my second family? But were

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Speaker 1: there other people there? Other friends? Too intimate?

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Speaker 3: Right here?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: You're right.

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Speaker 1: At first, I thought the concept was cute. I'd imagine

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Speaker 1: things like Santa getting stuck in the chimney lights, spells,

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Speaker 1: et cetera.

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Speaker 3: But when they.

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Speaker 1: Mailed me the sweater, my jaw dropped. It is possibly

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Speaker 1: the most vulgar Christmas sweater I've ever seen?

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Speaker 3: What was it? Without getting into it?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean without getting into it? The whole

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Speaker 2: point of these stories is to get into it.

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Speaker 3: We're not getting into it.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say that Santa was making gestures slash, participating

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Speaker 1: in an act that was not okay for children to see.

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Speaker 1: What so Santa was? I think Santa was plowing some snow.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you know what I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: Think you Santa has been naughty.

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Speaker 1: I personally thought it was gross and it was bad

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Speaker 1: enough that if someone at work saw me wear it,

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Speaker 1: I definitely get in trouble. I told my boyfriend that

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Speaker 1: in no way would I wear this, but he said

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Speaker 1: that I was being a wet blanket and unsupportive of

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Speaker 1: his family tradition. A wet blanket a blank Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: called people wet blankets before.

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Speaker 3: I've never done that. I'm going to add that to

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Speaker 2: Wet blanket, wet noodle, wet wet noodle's good personality like

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Speaker 2: a plank of wood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, more like wet Christmas sweater? Am I right? Well,

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Speaker 3: actually that's maybe what the boyfriend wants.

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Speaker 2: But she wants wrenched no sex.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I said I'd wear any other sweater and would even

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Speaker 3: They're like, I.

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Speaker 1: Love how graphic their sweaters are and how like innocent

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Speaker 1: their insults are.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she's so innocent that like anything slightly sexual. She's like,

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Speaker 2: oh maybe, maybe, Oh Heaven, it's possible.

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Speaker 3: It's possible.

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Speaker 1: I do love my boyfriend, so I actually considered wearing

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Speaker 1: it and asking people not to take photos as a compromise.

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Speaker 1: But the day of the party, I decided not to

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Speaker 1: wear it last minute. I had to drive separately from work,

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Speaker 1: so my boyfriend didn't know about this prior. When his

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Speaker 1: brother opened the door, he eyed me up and down

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Speaker 1: and I could tell that he wasn't happy that I

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Speaker 1: wasn't wearing the sweater. My boyfriend was really pissed when

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Speaker 1: he saw me, and we argued in the guest room

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Speaker 1: for a little bit. His brothers teased me for being uptight,

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Speaker 1: and I could tell the jokes embarrass my boyfriend. I

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Speaker 1: ended up leaving the party early without my boyfriend and

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Speaker 1: we've been fighting since via text. Now I'm thinking that

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Speaker 1: I was the ahole for taking the joke too seriously.

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Speaker 1: We do have an update, Sam, to finish us off.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got we just got to know what

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Speaker 2: the sweater is.

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Speaker 3: Sam's like, I don't care if you the or not.

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Speaker 3: What was on the sweater? Well, I think it was,

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Speaker 3: which is a good point.

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Speaker 2: It is how graphic the sweater is determines determines, uh,

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Speaker 2: if she's the A hole or not.

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Speaker 3: Also, see you have the A hole.

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Speaker 2: It's just more like, you know, some people are just

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Speaker 2: not comfortable with that kind of stuff, and that's fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe this is the test of whether they're fit for

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Speaker 3: Maybe.

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Speaker 1: And also like the thing that that just like grinds

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Speaker 1: my gears, that just cracks my chestnuts is when you

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Speaker 1: take something that could be a fun, silly tradition and

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Speaker 1: then you like like like they're like shaming her into

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Speaker 1: trying to wear this like super like just have her

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Speaker 3: Really, that's that's all you need to do.

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Speaker 2: And it isn't silly or like raunchy enough, then just

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Speaker 2: don't date her again. The lever on the on Christmas Day,

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Speaker 2: stand up at the table in front of everyone, into

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Speaker 2: the chimney and light that ship up, get out of

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Speaker 2: here and say diagon Alley and the center away.

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Speaker 1: Baby flew no work. But Sam John, we do have

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Speaker 1: an updates. Let's hear it early. I really appreciate everyone

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Speaker 1: who took the time to message me after reading your comments.

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Speaker 1: I really thought long and hard about my boyfriend's family

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Speaker 1: and whether or not I wanted to be a partner

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Speaker 1: with someone who wouldn't respect my boundaries. We got in

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Speaker 1: one final fight when he nagged me to apologize to

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Speaker 1: all of his brothers separately.

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Speaker 2: I told him about wearing Christmas butater. It seems like

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Speaker 2: a little excessive. What apologized individually for not wearing the

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Speaker 2: sexual Santa sweater.

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Speaker 1: Imagine they just all get in the line. They're like,

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting, I'm waiting. I'm so sorry for not wearing sweater.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry for not wearing the sweater. I'm so

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Speaker 3: I want more hobby.

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Speaker 2: Where are the tears wear?

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Speaker 1: You're just a Christmas hatch you got. I told him

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Speaker 1: that if he wore the sweater they bought for me

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Speaker 1: at our friends miss party, which had about fifteen or

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Speaker 1: twenty people, then I'd apologize.

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Speaker 2: Oh he didn't wear the required sweater at another party. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we had a little hypocrite on our hands.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 1: He immediately freaked out and said no, and tried to

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Speaker 1: argue that they wouldn't understand because it's not their tradition.

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Speaker 3: Sounds he sounds the same.

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Speaker 1: I explained that it had nothing to do with tradition,

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Speaker 1: not the sweater was an appropriate article of clothing. I

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Speaker 1: asked him why he felt uncomfortable wearing the sweater in

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Speaker 3: He refused to answer. He froze up.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so he won't wear this rauchy sweater in front

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Speaker 2: of his friends?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And did he have to or something or what they ultimatum?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, if he wears the sweater to their upcomings

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Speaker 1: friends miss party, oh, then then she's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'll do it. But then he's like, no, I'm not

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Speaker 1: Why don't you want to wear this sweater in front

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Speaker 1: of different people?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's the same because that

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Speaker 2: there's a specific tradition of like wearing this ly Christmas, it's.

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Speaker 1: Even less pressure because it's like it's like more awkward

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Speaker 1: to wear that like around your family than it is

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Speaker 1: around like your friends that are like your age, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But if everyone's expecting you to wear it's like everyone

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Speaker 2: has this expectation of you wearing it, So it's not

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Speaker 2: like it's like we it's weirder not to wear it

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Speaker 2: than to wear it, because everyone's expecting yeah to that.

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Speaker 3: Not to the person wearing it.

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Speaker 1: But she's basically she's basically just making the point like

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Speaker 1: if it's so chill, like just just wear it, Like

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Speaker 1: why not if it's if it's not a big deal

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Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, And then he's like, nah, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: He froze up, and that's when I realized it wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to work out. He knew that it was inappropriate,

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Speaker 1: and he himself refused to wear it in public, yet

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Speaker 1: he was too stubborn to apologize and be on my side.

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Speaker 1: I told him it wasn't going to work out, So

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm going into New Year's Single as a pringle.

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Speaker 1: Oh a few friends found out about the breakup already,

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Speaker 1: and this might have been what made me an a hole.

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Speaker 1: Now I sent the photo of the sweater and I

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Speaker 1: explained what happened. I'm also glad to know that even

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Speaker 1: people irl were grossed out. I don't know what will

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Speaker 1: happen with his friends.

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Speaker 2: Show me the sweater. Show me the fucking sweater.

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Speaker 3: Please, Like this is Reddit, for God's sake, he.

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Speaker 2: Is the sweater. You can send Riley. There must be

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Speaker 2: a link.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking it up right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what will happen with his friendships with

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Speaker 1: those people, but it's none of my business at this point.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, and happy holidays.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I just want to know what the sweater is.

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Speaker 2: I just want to know so bad.

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Speaker 1: This is maybe one of the worst information teases of

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, it comes down to if she's not

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't make someone do something you're not comfortable with.

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Speaker 2: But if or they're not comfortable with but if it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: To me, like, if I'm the boyfriend and the family,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, let me force you to do this thing,

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Speaker 1: I'm not enjoying myself anymore. Yeah, Like it's the joke

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Speaker 1: is funny when every when everyone's in on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't understand. And also like it would

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Speaker 2: like I feel like everyone should wear it and then

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Speaker 2: it would be kind of even more funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed.

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Speaker 2: It's weird to only make that the the people that

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Speaker 2: the new people wear it. Like it's like a weird

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Speaker 2: form of hazing. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of hazing.

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Speaker 1: I like, like I like the idea of like the

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Speaker 1: but like once it gets to this level, it's just

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Speaker 3: Fun any are you? Are you really enjoying.

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Speaker 2: This for what the sweater looks like?

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Speaker 4: To know?

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Speaker 3: Did we get anything? There was no.

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Speaker 4: She only posted one thing and it was a story.

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Speaker 4: She didn't reply to any comments. But somebody said that like,

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Speaker 4: since it was mailed in, that they had this sweater

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Speaker 4: and they probably pass it around to all the new

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Speaker 4: people in the like you know, siblings, you know, relationships.

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Speaker 3: It was mailed in.

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Speaker 1: Oh you mean, like so maybe someone else had it

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Speaker 1: that they mailed it in.

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Speaker 4: Like they keep the same sweater, but they just rotated

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Speaker 4: around the right, right, right, right right a couple.

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Speaker 3: It's the same one from the way back when.

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Speaker 4: But she didn't nobody posted a link to anything.

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Speaker 3: I see this one.

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Speaker 1: These are great, by the way, I would loved balls hell.

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Speaker 4: Yah see, that's not terrible. It was Sanna doing something

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Speaker 4: to the kids.

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Speaker 3: Really, that's what she said.

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Speaker 4: It was, she said. I'm not going to get into it.

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Speaker 3: Was she or was it? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Without getting into it, let's just say that Sanna was

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Speaker 4: making gestures participating in an act that was not okay

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Speaker 4: for children to see. So he must have been like

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Speaker 4: thing a deer while children were I don't know who

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Speaker 1: Maybe like it's not I don't know if children were

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's anything to do.

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Speaker 1: But like, yeah, maybe he's like boning boning Rudolph or

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Speaker 1: sweaters we've seen, like are are pretty. They they don't

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Speaker 1: go all out, you know what I mean? Missus Claus,

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Speaker 1: you know, are you not even nice?

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Speaker 4: I'm just scared to see what Australian missiletoe kisses.

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Speaker 3: Is that like a thing?

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Speaker 2: It's it down under?

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Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah, it's.

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Speaker 4: Like a French kiss down there.

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Speaker 3: You go.

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Speaker 2: I'm really looking. I'm not seeing anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you Riley.

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Speaker 4: To hear we wrap it for this Christmas story.

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Speaker 2: We always wrap it here and okop, But uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: with with this story, I I want to I still

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Speaker 2: want to know what the Christmas sweater is like. But

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it comes down to

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Speaker 2: she's not comfortable with it. She should not force her

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Speaker 2: to do something that she's not comfortable with. He can

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Speaker 2: suggest it, but ultimately, like he can't force her. But again,

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Speaker 2: if you want to be with someone who is down

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Speaker 2: to wear a sexual Santa sweater and that's really important too,

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Speaker 2: then that's I think that's fine. Yeah, you can't force

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Speaker 2: anyone to maybe show the disconnect and who they are.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've only been dating for a few months.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I think it showed the disconnect between them as people. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and maybe they're not right for each other.

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, you know, a Christmas present is realizing that you

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Speaker 2: should be dating other people.

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Speaker 3: The present is divorced.

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Speaker 2: Present is the Vorce, The Worst, the Horse. All right,

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Speaker 2: well tell us what you want for Chris mess put

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Speaker 2: in the comments and we'll talk to you very very soon.

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Speaker 2: Hois This is an episode from Deep Within the Archives.

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Speaker 1: Time for okop rewam. I forced my family to stop drinking,

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Speaker 1: but wasn't ready for their reaction.

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Speaker 3: What was it just being sober doing crack?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stop drinking.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna start doing heroin taketh we give it

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Speaker 1: the worse. My husband's family loves to drink.

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Speaker 2: Good get at that.

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Speaker 3: My sister hates it.

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Speaker 1: Every holiday includes multiple bottles of wine slash cocktails.

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Speaker 3: I hate drinking.

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Speaker 1: I never drink because my father was an alcoholic understandable,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's childish if you can't have fun

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Speaker 1: without drinking.

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Speaker 3: We're on the border there, we're on the border.

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Speaker 1: This year, I'm hosting Christmas for a change, and I

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Speaker 1: decided since it's at my house, no alcohol allowed, as

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Speaker 1: we are all getting older and it's time to grow up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's hard.

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Speaker 1: Because, like, at the end of the day, the alcohol

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Speaker 1: is like it's just a societal thing. Yeah it's not

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Speaker 1: really yeah, but yeah, but like that's also we can

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 2: But just expect people like to not want to go.

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Speaker 2: That's true, you know, like that. It's fine, you can

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Speaker 2: do whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: But get ready for the reaction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the reaction you want to come.

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Speaker 1: My husband's sister called to ask what she could bring.

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Speaker 1: She saw a recipe for a Christmas martini that she

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring. I told her about the no alcohol rule.

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Speaker 1: She didn't say much, but must have told the rest

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Speaker 1: of the family, which I thought you had already told them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ready for there to be a rule, you have to

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Speaker 1: tell them. Some of them started texting me, asking me

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Speaker 1: if I was serious and saying that it's lame, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not budgeting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well again, you might have like a coup going

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Speaker 2: on with this Christmas party. Someone else creates an alcohol

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Speaker 2: Christmas party, you know, this might be.

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Speaker 1: A Christmas for one this year. Imagine imagine her husband

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Speaker 1: is like, sorry.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like sicker.

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Speaker 1: I saw that martini recipe in that she is slashed,

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Speaker 1: so sorry.

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Speaker 3: Now it turns.

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Speaker 1: Out my husband's sister is hosting an alternate gathering for

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Speaker 1: almost everyone that has chose to go to it instead.

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Speaker 1: It's so disrespectful because all they would have to do

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Speaker 1: is spend one day sober. My husband told me that

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Speaker 1: he talked with a sister and we are invited to

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Speaker 1: her gathering, and he said that we should just go

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Speaker 1: and stop causing issues, but I won't because it's so rude.

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Speaker 1: Now my husband is mad because I'm making him stay

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Speaker 1: home and spend Christmas with me at the lame party.

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Speaker 1: But it's mine turn to host, and I chose to

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Speaker 1: have no alcohol, and they could have just dealt with

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Speaker 1: it for one year, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, you don't have to drink, right,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to drink, but you also you can't expect.

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Speaker 2: You can't expect to just control what everyone else is doing,

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Speaker 2: especially on like a like a Christmas holiday.

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Speaker 1: I think OP should say like, look, here's the situation.

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Speaker 1: My father is alcoholic.

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Speaker 3: I don't really want to be surrounded by alcohol.

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Speaker 1: And then the other side of the family should be like, okay,

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Speaker 1: like you know what, maybe we either like I mean

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Speaker 1: the most reason, like I wouldn't care personally, but I

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Speaker 1: guess maybe a middle ground is like, Okay, let's just

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Speaker 1: like not be like making Martinez and get like really,

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Speaker 1: let's just like look me, I don't know, Yeah, maybe.

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Speaker 2: That's it's tough. I mean, like that is tough, and

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Speaker 2: it's tough.

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Speaker 1: If someone has a lot of trauma around alcohol, then

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Speaker 1: that's that could be a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I under I understand that.

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Speaker 1: Like I imagine if op was ala, Yeah it was

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Speaker 1: an alcohol you see that, and that's then like okay,

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Speaker 1: like it sucks for the rest of the family.

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Speaker 3: But it's kind of like, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like if that that was the case,

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Speaker 2: I would you have to explain the reason why, because

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Speaker 2: then you just sound just like didn't just be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're just being lame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly explain the reason and have like a conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It doesn't even sound like she like even gave

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Speaker 2: them a heads up on the rules either.

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Speaker 1: Which is like if you have a like, if you

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Speaker 1: have a rule, how do you expect everyone's going to

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Speaker 1: show up with alcohol because you didn't tell them?

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous