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Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by invisi Line,

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Speaker 1: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles,

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Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Stock Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Cowboys Nation, Welcome in to Girls Talk, Boys Talk,

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Speaker 2: presented by Invisiline in the SWBC studio. I'm Nicole Hutchinson

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Speaker 2: alongside Brianna Aldridge, Christy Scales, and Aisha Morrison, and we're

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Speaker 2: just gonna go straight to it, ladies. Is not even

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Speaker 2: a good morning just because the Cowboys organization hell us,

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Speaker 2: we are mourning the loss of Cowboys second year defensive

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Speaker 2: end Marshaw Neelan, who tragically.

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Speaker 3: Took his own life last week.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think we need to get into the

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Speaker 2: reports of Frisco Police Department just yet, but I do

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Speaker 2: want to take the time to honor Marshawn Nieland's life

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Speaker 2: and a special tribute right off the top of the show.

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Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and take a listen.

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Speaker 5: The Dallas Cowboys selects Marshawn Neeland defensive vans from Western Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Let me let me go out here, let me let

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Speaker 5: me do a little more, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And you look over, you know, Donald, y'all here, uh,

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Speaker 5: spicing it up, and you got to tell y'all here

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Speaker 5: doing what he do and it's like, okay, we got

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Speaker 5: all these guys that's just out here making plays and

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Speaker 5: make you feel. Okay, now let me go get something,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it's all, it's all great.

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Speaker 6: Marshawn Nyland, we all cover up for a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: I heard heavy heavy heart today. I heard from Marshawn.

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Speaker 7: I heard for his family, heard for his girlfriend, I

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Speaker 7: heard for every single one of my teammates.

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Speaker 4: This is a pain that.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: We got some technical difficulties, but it's all right. Just

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what to begin, y'all, Marshawn was.

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Speaker 8: Good kid.

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Speaker 3: Losing him at twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you go into the room and he like,

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Speaker 2: literally is that bright spot? And unfortunately the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: No longer have him here.

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Speaker 2: Ladies go ahead, chime in, because I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I'm to be able to do this one.

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Speaker 3: So I'm need y'alls help today.

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Speaker 7: He was always bright and jolly, always had the smile

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Speaker 7: and seemed lighthearted. And that's why when you hear that

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Speaker 7: it was self inflicted, that that to me what was

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Speaker 7: truly shocking was because those you know, I think a

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Speaker 7: lot of the public that doesn't have a lot of

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Speaker 7: hopefully most people have not had to deal with this

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Speaker 7: kind of of tragedy, but you think people would be

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Speaker 7: like brooding into themselves and sad and morose, and Marshawn

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Speaker 7: was on the exterior to those you know tangentially around him,

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Speaker 7: it was just the opposite. And so that's what caught

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Speaker 7: me so off guard. I don't know if y'all felt

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Speaker 7: the same way.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was avoiding this podcast because I knew this

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Speaker 9: was something we would have to get through. It was

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Speaker 9: something you were hoping that wasn't true. Like Christy said,

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Speaker 9: to think of it being self inflicted. I'm thinking of

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Speaker 9: the quote I saw from Solomon Thomas saying that, you know,

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Speaker 9: he wished his teammate would have known how much that

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Speaker 9: they wanted him to stay. Being in this situation, you

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Speaker 9: just start to see so many people in the community,

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Speaker 9: some people that have been covering this beat for so long,

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Speaker 9: starting to share their stories. And I think that's what

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Speaker 9: Marshawn Neland has done for this DFW community, has opened

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Speaker 9: up conversations. We know Dak Prescott, Solomon Thomas are advocates

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Speaker 9: of mental health and this is why, because it is real.

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Speaker 9: Mental health is something that especially when we're talking about

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Speaker 9: men Black men, don't talk about a lot. It's not

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Speaker 9: I know there was reports and they're like, why would.

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Speaker 3: He do this?

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Speaker 9: It's being close to this topic and being affected by this,

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Speaker 9: losing a parent to this just a few years ago.

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Speaker 9: I can tell you firsthand, it's never one thing, it's

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Speaker 9: it leads up to it. And I think the hard

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Speaker 9: part is thinking about his family. Like we heard Dak

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Speaker 9: questions that come is what could I have done better?

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Speaker 9: Things like that, because like I said, it's not just

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Speaker 9: and it's always the people you never would expect. And

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Speaker 9: I think that's what's shocking the table. It's always the

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Speaker 9: strong people, the smiley people. I remember talking to Solomon

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Speaker 9: of like who he was, right, And I think that's

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Speaker 9: the hard part, and it's so relatable because he's younger

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Speaker 9: than all of us here at this table. I have

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Speaker 9: brothers a year older than him. You know, I think

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Speaker 9: that's the hard part and he's going to be missed.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and Solomon's sister was the same age as Marshawn

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Speaker 7: when she left us.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. When you talk about you know, not thinking, not

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Speaker 8: knowing what people are going through, and you also, you know,

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Speaker 8: you ladies have both mentioned is that it's always the

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Speaker 8: people that are smiling, that are bubbly, that light up

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Speaker 8: the room. And it's so interesting because I can even

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Speaker 8: talk about the football aspect of it is the first

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Speaker 8: time I watched Marshaun on film. You see the relentless

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Speaker 8: liss like the pursuit to the ball, the no quit

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Speaker 8: on him like in how he plays, and you know

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Speaker 8: him coming out as an edge defender, one of the

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Speaker 8: So even going into like the football part of it

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Speaker 8: is that that's what he displayed on the field, That's

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Speaker 8: who he was. It's this person that doesn't quit, but

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Speaker 8: you really just can't never know in that sense, like

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Speaker 3: And so as a.

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Speaker 8: Veteran, I take this very seriously, as someone that has served,

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Speaker 8: and it's just for me, it was a reminder that

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Speaker 8: Is that, you know, coming out of the military and

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Speaker 8: this whole this whole situation, unfortunate situation, has sparked up

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Speaker 8: conversations about intersectionality, about race, about culture, about economics, about

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Speaker 8: gender norms, as you know Breed just mentioned, and I think,

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Speaker 8: you know, with us having this conversation is delicate, but

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Speaker 8: I think we got to be really honest about it.

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Speaker 8: I don't think we can escape past certain details regarding

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Speaker 8: this conversation, especially as it pertains to a league that

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Speaker 8: in the military, we used to say, like, when I

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Speaker 8: take this uniform off, I am who I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm green right now. But when I take it off,

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Speaker 3: I am and who I am.

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Speaker 8: And I think that's something we have to remember with

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Speaker 8: that they are still you know, their childhoods where they

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Speaker 8: grew up, their family back home, their lived experiences, and

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Speaker 8: you know, I just I just I feel I feel like,

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Speaker 8: you know, I think it's healthy that we're having this conversation,

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Speaker 8: these conversations, but I really hope that people are looking

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Speaker 8: inward and also really looking outward and like who these

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Speaker 8: players are as people and looking at them as people,

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Speaker 8: which is something that we do on this podcast, and

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Speaker 8: that we continue to do that, and that this is

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Speaker 8: a reminder that we have to look at them as people.

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Speaker 2: I think as well, you think a good point as

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Speaker 2: like even media, I feel like and we can keep

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Speaker 2: it a buck here. Some people forget that these players,

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Speaker 2: like you mentioned, do have stories and have lives outside

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Speaker 2: of football, and I think that that's why I love that,

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Speaker 2: you know, we all all of us ladies, including myself,

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Speaker 2: we pride ourselves on going into that locker room and

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Speaker 2: of course we get the football information. Of course we

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Speaker 2: you know, ask those good questions, but we also go

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Speaker 2: up to those players and say like and you don't

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Speaker 2: speak for myself, I say like, Marshaun, how are you?

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Speaker 4: You know? Or wan Ye, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Like how's your family, how's your how's your kid, how's

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Speaker 2: your you know, girlfriend, or things like that.

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Speaker 4: Because it's not always about.

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Speaker 2: What happened against the Broncos y'all, like what's good? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's about getting to know, you know, how these players

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Speaker 2: Kneeland was just somebody who was just like it's all good,

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Speaker 2: want to you know, I put this out on social media,

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Speaker 2: that I could go to and ask questions like no

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Speaker 2: even the conversations about his girlfriend or you know, him

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Speaker 2: trying to get me to watch anime.

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Speaker 4: Never gonna do it, sorry, So to this day, I'm

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Speaker 2: From someone who like I could literally go see him

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Speaker 2: you know, breakfast, lunch, whatever.

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Speaker 10: He was special.

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Speaker 2: But I also want to play this this interview that

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Speaker 2: I did with him for first and ten after he

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Speaker 2: a light on his mommy.

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Speaker 10: So let's go and take a listen.

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Speaker 5: The Dallas Cowboys select Mark.

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Speaker 10: All right, all right, now let's take a listen.

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Speaker 5: Like, shoot, I can tell you this, Like, looking back

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Speaker 5: at it, I was like, Okay, we was kind of poor,

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Speaker 5: like growing up, but we was kind of we was poor,

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Speaker 5: but we was like looking back, I'm like, some of

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Speaker 5: the things that happened, I'm like thinking about it, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. But moms, she never complained, nevers

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Speaker 5: talked about it, never stressed, gave us everything we needed

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Speaker 5: and more, and you know, every day got up to

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Speaker 5: work regardless of what happened, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So it's like she was one of them where it's like,

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Speaker 5: and I believe me, she had stuff going on. And

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Speaker 5: obviously I ain't gonna tell her business here, but she

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Speaker 5: had a lot going on from when she was like

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Speaker 5: fifteen all the way until you know the very end.

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Speaker 5: Always had a lot going on. So you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, Just think about her memory and stuff like that,

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Speaker 5: like she never showed us, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, think about it, like she never showed us

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Speaker 5: on anything, you know what I'm saying. So she never

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Speaker 5: she every day came with smile, came with love, gave

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Speaker 5: us time, working full time, still taking care of two

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Speaker 5: kids pretty much by herself, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: Like you're putting a word on her shoulder and looking

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Speaker 5: at us with a smile on her face, and we'll

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Speaker 5: never know, you know what I'm saying. So it's it's

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Speaker 5: stuff like that, like I think I thought about I

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Speaker 5: still do and just like okay, probably nah without a shadow.

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Speaker 2: And for those who don't know, he did lose his mom, uh,

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Speaker 2: Wendy Kneland about a year ago, and the year before

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of outside pressure, Like, let's keep it

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Speaker 3: Can we be honest? Absolutely?

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Speaker 8: Can we can we hold people accountable, absolutely, But there's

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Speaker 8: there's elements of the game that we don't see because

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Speaker 8: And that goes back to the conversation that we're having

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Speaker 8: right now badly and so and so.

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Speaker 7: That's fun and we can do that more because because

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Speaker 7: we're girls and my whole career covering the team, it's

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Speaker 7: always been like that. But don't bring that, you know,

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Speaker 7: in the criticism, don't make it personal, but use the

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Speaker 7: personal part ticket to know people and let them know

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Speaker 7: that you care about them beyond what they do on

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Speaker 4: I want to say, thank god we have Shoddy.

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Speaker 2: Nick Harris actually mentioned that too as well, But thank

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Speaker 2: goodness we do have a coach like Shoddy that since

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Speaker 2: day one, I mean probably even when he was OC

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Speaker 2: but since day one he became the head coach, he

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Speaker 2: prioritized family and making sure that he checks on his

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Speaker 2: sure that we note that, and you know, shout out

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Speaker 2: to the NFL for doing moments of silence for Marshaon

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Speaker 2: Nealon in his honor, So definitely I wanted to make

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Speaker 2: sure we threw that out there. But also, Marshaon Nelan,

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Speaker 2: All Right, Welcome back into Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented

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Speaker 2: by visit Line in the SWBC studio Nicole Hutcheson, Rihanna Aldridge,

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Speaker 2: Christie Scales and Aisham Morrison and Christian I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: throw to straight off the bat. How has this team

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Speaker 2: dealt with situations like this? Because it's it's not something

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Speaker 2: that's easy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the well Marcus Paul, the strength and conditioning coach

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Speaker 7: that was back in twenty twelve. It was a Tuesday

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Speaker 7: morning between the Sunday game leading into the Thanksgiving Day

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Speaker 7: game and early early in the morning, and people arrive, oh,

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Speaker 7: I'd say between like six and six thirty to maybe

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Speaker 7: do their lifts, some of them before the.

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Speaker 10: First team meeting of the day.

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Speaker 7: And you know, Marcus had had collapsed and taken to

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Speaker 7: the hospital and passed away and beloved, beloved by And

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Speaker 7: that's the thing about the strength and conditioning coaches. They

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Speaker 7: work with everybody on the team, right offense, defense, practice

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Speaker 7: squad guys, you know.

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Speaker 10: And that was such a shock.

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Speaker 7: But the one that was most different was in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 7: the situation where Josh Brent, the defensive tackle for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 7: was involved in a car crash and teammate, his teammate

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Speaker 7: from University of Illinois and who had just signed to

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys practice squad two weeks earlier, Jerry Brown, was

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Speaker 7: killed in that crash and it had happened overnight. It

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Speaker 7: was a Friday night into an early Saturday morning, and

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Speaker 7: we literally were on the plane. This was the second

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Speaker 7: game after the Thanksgiving game, going to Cincinnati, both teams

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Speaker 7: needing a win to try and stay.

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Speaker 6: In the.

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Speaker 7: In the playoff picture, and Cincinnati was favored in that game.

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Speaker 7: And we literally are on the plane wondering why, you know,

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Speaker 7: haven't taken off yet, and everyone but the players and

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Speaker 7: coaches and the staff like the equipment managers and the

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Speaker 7: like were asked to dboard the plane. So we literally

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Speaker 7: got off the plane and were standing on the tarmac.

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Speaker 7: And that's when I remember Mike Doosey from Fox four

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Speaker 7: saw he looked at his phone and said, uh oh.

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Speaker 7: And meanwhile, Jason Garrett, who was head coach at the time,

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Speaker 7: was telling everybody on the plane using the you know,

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Speaker 7: the announced thing over the plane to say that there

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Speaker 7: was the accident and Joshua was hospitalized and Jerry had

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Speaker 7: passed away. And the league doesn't stop. I can talk

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Speaker 7: later if you want about what happened with nine to eleven.

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Speaker 7: You know, they delayed games by one weekend. We ended

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Speaker 7: up having to make up that game in January. But

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Speaker 7: the league doesn't stop. And that's that's the thing about

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Speaker 7: this week is the players are having to come back

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Speaker 7: off of a bye week and prepare for the Raiders

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Speaker 7: while also mourning the loss of a teammate. And I

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Speaker 7: don't know yet about about services and how I'll be

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Speaker 7: real honest behind the scenes here at the Star. We're

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Speaker 7: all kind of in a holding pattern as to what

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Speaker 7: this schedule is going to be for this week. We

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Speaker 7: honestly don't know, and I think that they're obviously waiting

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Speaker 7: for clarity with the situations and how services for Marshawn.

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Speaker 7: If they do know that, they just found out and

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Speaker 7: are getting the word out. But yeah, that's that's the

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Speaker 7: tough part about this week. But what happened with the

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Speaker 7: game in Cincinnati. We all got back on the plane

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Speaker 7: and by then everyone knew what was going on. It

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Speaker 7: was obviously very somber and went to Cincinnati, and those

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Speaker 7: of us who've been around a long time and covered

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Speaker 7: all of Jason Garrett's career from the time he was

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Speaker 7: a third string quarterback to his time as head coach

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Speaker 7: would say that was his probably his finest moment with

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys was the Cowboys got the upset win one

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Speaker 7: twenty to nineteen. I think that was the final score

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Speaker 7: there in Cincinnati, and the Cowboys ultimately didn't make the

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Speaker 7: playoffs that year, but stayed with it. But they took

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Speaker 7: Joshus and Jerry's jerseys and hung them in the locker

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Speaker 7: there in Cincinnati, and then Jerry's locker here as a

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Speaker 7: practice squad member through the remainder of the season. So

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Speaker 7: that was so unusual. But again, as tragic as things are,

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Speaker 7: the league plays on and you're expected to deal with it,

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Speaker 7: and and that's what they're they're going to have to do.

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Speaker 7: But at least now the players and the coaches are together,

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Speaker 7: Whereas when this happened last week, you know, Wednesday night

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Speaker 7: into it early Thursday morning, most people had already dispersed.

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Speaker 10: It's the only time.

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Speaker 7: That guys get to like go home or you know

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Speaker 7: and leave and have you know, like five four or

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Speaker 7: five consecutive days off, and so a lot of them

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Speaker 7: were had already left.

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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine how those guys feel, yeah, because

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Speaker 2: like and I feel, like I told I used of

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Speaker 2: this when we were on the phone. Like you're already

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Speaker 2: dealing with you know, ups and downs of the season,

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Speaker 2: right and then your own personal, uh things that you're

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Speaker 2: dealing with in your own life, and then you get

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Speaker 2: this like a little bit of life with you know,

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys trade for Quinn Williams and we get some

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Speaker 2: new pieces and you know, so obviously there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of excitement in the locker room where you know,

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Speaker 2: even Dak was like, you know, Pomped can't curse on

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Speaker 2: the show, but you know, and then you get news

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Speaker 2: that your brother, you know, for some best friend passed away,

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Speaker 2: Like how do you even how do you even move

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Speaker 2: forward with that?

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Speaker 4: Because I mean I.

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Speaker 2: Get it, like together, yeah, like because I get it.

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Speaker 2: It's a you know, the league doesn't stop, but.

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Speaker 8: Like mentally, you know, I think that goes back into

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Speaker 8: Christy just said the league doesn't stop it, Like.

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Speaker 10: I say, you've got to They've got to get back in.

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Speaker 9: What people saying is that it keeps life keeps going.

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Speaker 9: And for I don't know how about you guys, but

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Speaker 9: like me being at work and being so busy, like

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Speaker 9: I was covering the story and it really didn't hit

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Speaker 9: me till I was by myself driving and then here

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Speaker 9: started coming down my eyes. But I had gone the

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Speaker 9: whole day at work like moving, moving, and I think

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Speaker 9: I'm glad these guys are back in.

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Speaker 3: The building together.

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Speaker 9: To Nicole's point, have a coach like Brian Schahammer that

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Speaker 9: everyone's more than confident that he's going to handle this

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Speaker 9: the right way. And I know there's some people, you know,

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Speaker 9: eager to hear more and ask the questions. But I'm

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Speaker 9: very happy that Shoty's going to take care of his

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Speaker 9: players first. I know that one hundred and ten percent

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Speaker 9: into just thinking about the league going. I remember sitting

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Speaker 9: there when DeMar Hamblin's heart stopped for two minutes on

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Speaker 9: the field. I'd never heard such a stadium go silent, and.

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Speaker 3: Again bawling my eyes out.

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Speaker 9: This is a man that you know, I've worked with closely,

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Speaker 9: thinking that this is that I just watched him go

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Speaker 9: because we were kind of they put us in the tunnel,

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Speaker 9: so we weren't even the press box.

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Speaker 3: There was no TVs. You know, everybody had gone commercial.

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Speaker 9: I think it was Lisa was covering the game, kind

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Speaker 9: of giving some updates, doing excellent reporting that night. But

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Speaker 9: I think they went out for like a snap and

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Speaker 9: we were like, how are we going to cover this game?

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Speaker 9: And then they ended up postponing it, rescheduling and things

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Speaker 9: like that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this this is a it's sick. It's a business.

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Speaker 8: Like well, I was about I agree, it is like

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Speaker 8: the league doesn't stop, you know, when you're saying that,

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Speaker 8: it just stood out so much to me because I

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Speaker 8: just remember standing informations after we found a soldier and

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Speaker 8: you gotta keep going. And I whereas I agree with you, Christy,

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Speaker 8: I understand that for some people, staying busy, staying occupied

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Speaker 8: is you know, is a is a way to like

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Speaker 8: not think about it.

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Speaker 10: But then you have the quiet time.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we have the quiet time, and then you have

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Speaker 8: the reality of do you think these.

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Speaker 3: Guys don't know that the league doesn't stop? Do you

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Speaker 3: think that these guys.

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Speaker 8: Don't know that when they retire and when they get

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Speaker 8: injured or things or they fall off, this game is

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Speaker 8: gonna keep going without them and the reality of that

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Speaker 8: and sitting in that, and I just I just I

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Speaker 8: just feel like the league doesn't stop as the whole

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Speaker 8: it could be positive.

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Speaker 3: I feel like when you say it out loud.

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Speaker 8: It sounds incredibly disassociated of the reality of this being

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Speaker 7: Well, And I just would like to follow up because

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Speaker 7: Brent works for the Cowboys. His office is just right

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Speaker 7: a lot of people don't realize that that with the

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Girls Talk BOYSTOK presented by

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Speaker 2: Bize Line in the SWBC studio Nicole I, just In

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Speaker 2: But first I do want to ask y'all question, do

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Speaker 2: you'll have a favorite memory of nielan interaction?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the the uh. Actually it was more than this

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Speaker 7: his second year, so this past summer. It was in Oxnard,

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Speaker 7: and the guys will go and they'll sign autographs leaving

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Speaker 7: the field or coming on the field.

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Speaker 11: And.

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Speaker 7: Most of the time the fans are yelling for you know,

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Speaker 7: the star players and stuff like that. And it was

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Speaker 7: funny because Neiland when he was signing autographs this year,

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Speaker 7: he's walking off and it's like, they know my name

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Speaker 7: this year, they know my name this year today, ninety four,

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Speaker 7: ninety four, you know, so so just just the smile

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Speaker 7: on his face and he just kind of kind of

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Speaker 7: laughing like, oh, yeah, they know my name this year.

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Speaker 9: I would say his rookie season because it was my

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Speaker 9: rookie season two and I don't know who was more

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Speaker 9: nervous me or him during the interview. I think he

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Speaker 9: might have been my I want to say he was

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Speaker 9: my second sit down that I had, but I was like,

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Speaker 9: you know, my palms are kind of sweaty and I'm

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Speaker 9: still learning this team.

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Speaker 3: I think it was.

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Speaker 9: Literally like my third week when they sent me dog Snard,

751
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Speaker 9: like living in Dallas, like I wasn't even I was

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Speaker 9: living in a hotel at the time. So I'm sitting

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Speaker 9: there with with Nielan and I remember after I was

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Speaker 9: talking to photographer.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I like him.

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Speaker 9: I was like, because some guys they're very they're all

757
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Speaker 9: business and you gotta kind of peel to get something.

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Speaker 9: But like straight out of the gate, I just remember

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Speaker 9: every question that I had, the answer he had like

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Speaker 9: that little and you sat down with him to go

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Speaker 9: he has like that little laugh like after it don't

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Speaker 9: matter what I'm He'll be like yeah, And I was like,

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Speaker 9: what so that it's not but it's I laugh because

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Speaker 9: he's laughing, and it makes it makes the atmosphere of

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Speaker 9: the conversation.

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Speaker 3: More, you know, Like he boosted my comp finance early.

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Speaker 9: So we were two rookies, so I think figuring it

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Speaker 9: out that's how I look at it.

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Speaker 3: That's how I remember him.

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Speaker 8: My favorite memory of him is sitting in this chair

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Speaker 8: on The Drift Show and we had a segment like

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Speaker 8: who's a player that you don't want a team in

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Speaker 8: the division to draft? And I was like, Hey, I

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Speaker 8: don't want to see Marshawn Newan twice a year because

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Speaker 8: just the wave that he I mean, y'all, it's just

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Speaker 8: like never quit to the ball. I was just like,

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Speaker 8: I don't want to see him on Philly Ick. And

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Speaker 8: I remember the first time getting to talk to him

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Speaker 8: outside the locker room and I told him about that

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Speaker 8: and he was like.

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Speaker 3: Me, me, you don't want to see me?

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Speaker 10: And I was like yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then I also was like, you also.

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Speaker 4: Look like, you know, with your size, man, you could

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Speaker 4: move inside a little bit.

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Speaker 8: He was like, I'm gonna keep it on the low.

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Speaker 3: And just that little bit of interaction is just, you know.

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Speaker 10: Like always a little twinkle over.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it felt like I was talking to a cousin.

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Speaker 8: It felt like I was talking to somebody I knew.

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Speaker 8: And I think that relatability was dope with him. So

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Speaker 8: just laughing with him a little bit was fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say all my interactions.

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Speaker 2: But if I had to choose one, it was training

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Speaker 2: camp when you know, obviously the players come off the field,

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Speaker 2: you can describe whoever.

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Speaker 4: You want, and I can't go out to y'all.

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Speaker 2: That was a long time ago, so I don't remember

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Speaker 2: the exact question I asked, but I remember the interaction.

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Speaker 3: And I'd asked him a football question.

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Speaker 4: Probably was a dumb one.

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Speaker 2: But don't matter, but he had it was something along

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Speaker 2: the lines that he remembered when I first like came

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Speaker 2: in and I first came in, but like when he

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Speaker 2: first interacted with me his rookie season, and I'd asked

806
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: him like something stupid, and he was like, you're starting

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Speaker 2: to know ball a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit, like man shout out to you, shout out

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, nah, nah, it's not me, but nah,

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Speaker 4: it was all my interactions.

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Speaker 2: I've been cool with Marshaun, just from like I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 2: seeing him in passing, even making sure I speak to

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Speaker 2: him every day in locker room when they do have availability,

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Speaker 2: and all y'all have had interactions as well. So that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be definitely one hundred percent missed. And you know, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: this was hands down the most difficult show we have

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Speaker 2: had to do, but we.

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Speaker 4: We got it. We got through a lady got through it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, like Christy mentioned earlier, we don't really

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Speaker 2: know the schedule just yet. I'm sure we'll hear something

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Speaker 2: from either PR or Coach Shotty either today maybe not.

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Speaker 4: And that's okay.

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Speaker 2: I hope that, you know, those guys and this coaching

825
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Speaker 2: staff take the time that they need in order to

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Speaker 2: heal and process this.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, unfortunately we gotta go.

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Speaker 3: I gotta get ready for this d game. Unfortunately we

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Speaker 3: do a little extra time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little extra time.

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Speaker 8: It's like a blah blah bye, like a bye blah

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Speaker 8: bye bye, not just a vibe.

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Speaker 3: That's what extra.

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Speaker 2: I guess we could look at it that way, all right,

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Speaker 2: that uh we are.

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Speaker 4: We're to see all tomorrow. Unfortunately that's around the day show.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 9: Fortunately tomorrow, I'm happy to see.

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Speaker 10: I ain't trying to see y'all.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to see y'all.

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Speaker 2: It's just tough having to do that and talk about it,

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Speaker 2: but no, I am happy to see all Tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be back here at eight am talking ball.

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Speaker 2: For Breonna Aldridge, Christie Scales, I used Morrison.

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Speaker 4: I'm Nicole Hedgeson will be back here tomorrow.

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