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Speaker 1: Every day.

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Speaker 2: Up the Breakfast Club. I'm finished for y'all. Dune morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is dj n V just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy

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Speaker 3: we are the breakfast club.

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Speaker 2: Lawn.

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Speaker 3: La Rosa is here as well. We got a special

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Speaker 3: guest in the building. You know her from HGT TV,

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Speaker 3: rehab Attic or AGTV. I should say, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: Nicole Curtis, welcome.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Who Nicole is?

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Speaker 5: I'm about to a lot of people may have known

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Speaker 5: the cole, but then they may not know the call,

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Speaker 5: but they may have just learned in the coll.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Nicole, of course she's on rehab Attic. She's the

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Speaker 3: best selling author New York Times best selling author. But

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Speaker 3: recently she went viral, not for anything good. She was

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Speaker 3: actually doing some work in a home and I guess

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Speaker 3: something happened and all you hear is somebody blurred out

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Speaker 3: fart nigger. You heard Nicole blurred out fart nigger, And

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Speaker 3: Charlomagne gave a donkey today, Yes, and she went viral

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Speaker 3: for it, and because of that she lost her show

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Speaker 3: and her host of other things. And you're here today

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Speaker 3: to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what is a fart nigger.

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Speaker 6: You know, I have no idea. I have no idea.

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Speaker 6: It's it's that that isn't anything that I've ever said before,

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Speaker 6: and so I don't have any idea. You know, that's it.

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Speaker 7: Would you say, and it's a black person with gas?

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Speaker 2: Could it be?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 7: I mean, listen, it is.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 6: I heard your show on it and you guys had

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Speaker 6: a great time on it, and and that's all fine.

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Speaker 6: You know, I've I've been a female in construction for

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Speaker 6: almost thirty years. I think I'm the oldest here. I'm

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Speaker 6: older than all of you guys. I'm forty nine, oh

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Speaker 6: right behind you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still older though, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I've I'm a mom, so I've got kids, right,

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Speaker 6: So I've been I've I get made fun of a lot,

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Speaker 6: you know, and I get roasted. I've work on a

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Speaker 6: crew with like my best friends from elementary school, junior.

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Speaker 7: High, high school. Best friends are my best friends black.

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Speaker 6: I have some I don't even see. This is the

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Speaker 6: thing because as soon as I say anything like that,

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Speaker 6: then somebody says, oh, she came out used her best

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Speaker 6: friend as a black thing.

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Speaker 7: Correct, right?

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Speaker 4: And I say that I live in Detroit, right.

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Speaker 6: So so I have I have. I have friends of

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Speaker 6: every nationality, every background.

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Speaker 7: I always have.

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Speaker 6: But it's I can't say anything right right now. Anything

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Speaker 6: I say makes some person somewhere angry, right.

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Speaker 7: If you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Well, I definitely do, and I don't. I don't want

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Speaker 6: to get them out.

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Speaker 7: But I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Then people say like, oh, here she comes, she's going

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Speaker 6: to come out now has happened?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I think that the main thing

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Speaker 3: is is.

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Speaker 2: What are your best friends that are black?

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Speaker 7: Names? My god?

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, So Danielle, Danielle's part of our crew.

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Speaker 6: I have, Elizabeth, I have, I have so I live

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Speaker 6: right in Detroit, right.

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Speaker 7: So do you want me just go down and name?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I'm just saying, and that's the that's the thing,

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Speaker 6: you know, is that you know, when this all happened,

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Speaker 6: I asked all of my friends, all of my family,

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Speaker 6: all of my crew to take a step back, right

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Speaker 6: because everyone wanted to come out right away and be

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Speaker 6: like whoa, this isn't.

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Speaker 7: This isn't who she is? This, who isn't who she's about?

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Speaker 6: And I asked them not to on purpose because I

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Speaker 6: didn't want them get to get caught up in my

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Speaker 6: shit to be honest, right because I'm I'm in this

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Speaker 6: weird like here's me in the middle right now, right,

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Speaker 6: and I have people over here coming at me, have

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Speaker 6: people coming here over me, and then these two groups

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Speaker 6: are coming like this, you know, like I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know, Like when I was a kid growing up, we

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Speaker 4: didn't fly anywhere.

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Speaker 6: We were in the back of a car going on

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Speaker 6: road trips everywhere. But then you fight with your siblings.

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Speaker 6: Well that's how I am right now, where I have

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Speaker 6: like groups of people who have never met me, who

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Speaker 6: haven't watched my show, I know nothing about me, judging

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Speaker 6: me or defending me or just seeing all.

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Speaker 7: This weird stuff about me.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, okay, what you know?

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Speaker 4: What do I do at that point?

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Speaker 1: What do the people who knew you before this viral moment,

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Speaker 1: who have met you, who have watched your shows, your

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Speaker 1: black friends like that community? Ye, what did they say

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Speaker 1: to you about the use of the word.

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Speaker 6: Oh, They were just like like we know you, Like,

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Speaker 6: this isn't this isn't something you say, This isn't something

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Speaker 6: you use or anything. Now they do know me, which

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Speaker 6: means they know that I run a million miles an hour. Right,

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Speaker 6: I'm a mom. I got two boys. I fly cross

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Speaker 6: country like once or twice a week. I shoot a show,

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Speaker 6: I produce a show. I build houses, I design houses.

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Speaker 6: Bottom line is I'm a mom. I talk fast, I'm

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Speaker 6: on the go like this, and like all of you, right,

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Speaker 6: I didn't get handed my show. I didn't get handed it.

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Speaker 6: I didn't. I wasn't an overnight success, you know, Like

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Speaker 6: I grew up in a family where I learned to work,

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Speaker 6: and in my twenties I became a mom. At twenty one.

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Speaker 6: I cleaned houses. I did add jobs on Craigslist when

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Speaker 6: Craigslist was still a thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it is anymore.

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Speaker 3: Not really, you know, but that's that's all wonderful. But

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Speaker 3: the term, yeah, fart nigga, right, it just we just

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Speaker 3: never heard that term before. So it was just like

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to figure out, like is that

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Speaker 3: something you said? If that's a fart nig Like, where

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Speaker 3: did that term come from? Have you ever said it?

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Speaker 3: Have you ever heard it?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't.

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Speaker 6: And and when you I think you brought up and

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Speaker 6: you said that, you actually looked it up and it

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Speaker 6: wasn't work. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I did it,

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Speaker 6: you know, And that is something that over the years,

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Speaker 6: and this is like if if my shows were well,

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Speaker 6: you can still find my shows. I don't think they've

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Speaker 6: wiped them off completely of the universe, but if you

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Speaker 6: watch them, I have said, because years ago now I

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Speaker 6: started on TV in twenty ten, right, so we couldn't

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Speaker 6: we couldn't swear if we said and I say the

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Speaker 6: effort a lot, Okay, I say lot, I say it

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Speaker 6: too much? No, I say fuck, Like that's what I say.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So you ever use the N word

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Speaker 1: without the fart?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely not, absolutely not.

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Speaker 6: And that's where the people that know me, have known

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Speaker 6: me for years, have worked with me, were like, you know,

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Speaker 6: like that's just that's and and again I have been

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Speaker 6: on TV. I've been in the industry almost thirty years, right,

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Speaker 6: so you know how it is. If if that's something,

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Speaker 6: if that's how you're known to be or something like that,

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Speaker 6: there's already stories out there about it, you know. And

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Speaker 6: I've said, like, find someone who's ever heard me use

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Speaker 6: that word, be in that context or have that type

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Speaker 6: of mindset, and you won't like you were you.

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Speaker 2: At the BAPTO Awards recently.

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Speaker 6: No, I did see that though, yes, yes, no, I

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Speaker 3: And the next thing is, so you know, of course

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Speaker 3: people all the time say things that we say, edit

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Speaker 3: that out right, right, you said edited out? You asked

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Speaker 3: about it. So how did it leak if it's your

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Speaker 3: your show, yes and all that, how did your audio

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Speaker 3: leak like.

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Speaker 2: It just came out like fart? I just slipped up.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's asking about how it leaked, right, Okay, all right,

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Speaker 6: So you guys are all producers in here, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I know that. I mean, you guys have all worked

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Speaker 6: your asses off and you're here. So I had to

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Speaker 6: work for years to get to be a producer. And

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Speaker 6: as soon as I did that, I wanted control over

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Speaker 6: my own show and everything and what I've done for years.

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Speaker 6: So number one, I'm a mom and I'm a builder. Okay,

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Speaker 6: so I work on old houses. That's all I do.

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Speaker 6: I fight cities. I fight gentrification. I don't want our

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: So with that being said, I wanted control of my show.

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Speaker 6: So I finally get out of contract. I don't know

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Speaker 6: how you guys were with your first contracts. I was

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Speaker 6: under a contract forever, like I couldn't do anything without

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Speaker 6: everything else. So I got out of contract I think

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Speaker 6: five years ago, six years ago, right, But I kept

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Speaker 6: filming because I'm like, I'm gonna do something with this, right,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna come out on my own, and I'm going

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Speaker 6: to I'm gonna make this into what I want and

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Speaker 6: what I always wanted to do is shoot real raw,

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Speaker 6: documentary style. When you see my show on any kind

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Speaker 6: of platform on ACTV, we do have to edit it.

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Speaker 6: We do have to like like dumb it down, and

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Speaker 6: I show up before and after when I'm still in

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Speaker 6: the middle of construction, right, So I'm like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: shoot this raw. So what I was doing, what I've

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Speaker 6: always done, is I shoot all my own material. So

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Speaker 6: I was shooting in my own house, my own cameras,

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Speaker 6: like this would be if I was producing the show

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Speaker 6: right now. And this gentleman here's shooting. He can't walk

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Speaker 6: out of here with my media, right, he can't Like

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Speaker 6: it's mine, I'm gonna take that or I'm gonna load

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Speaker 6: it up. I'm gonna take it home, put it in

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Speaker 6: my drive. It goes in my safe right, so there

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Speaker 6: is there is another human in the world that did

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Speaker 6: have access to that, and right now with everything going on,

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna I'm gonna I'm not gonna state that.

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Speaker 5: No, No, do you think that person is?

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Speaker 6: I think he's an asshole? Okay, so we'll just start

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Speaker 6: at that. I think he's the person I think. I think,

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Speaker 6: in my humble opinion, who I think it is.

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Speaker 4: I think needed to ruin me and crush my soul.

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Speaker 6: And the funny thing is, though, is that I heard

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Speaker 6: you talking about gratitude earlier. I'm going to get back

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Speaker 6: to your question real quick. But that doesn't crush my

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Speaker 6: soul to take away a show, right, it doesn't. Like, No,

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Speaker 6: that's not what I'm about. Life is long and or

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Speaker 6: it's short. You know, I have a few friends right

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Speaker 6: now battling cancer. But fifteen years of my life I

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Speaker 6: spent on TV. But let's say I live to one hundred.

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Speaker 6: That's just a small blip and that isn't what defines me.

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Speaker 6: I don't at the end of the day when I'm buried,

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Speaker 6: I don't want people standing up and be like I

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Speaker 6: loved her TV show.

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Speaker 7: Now, fuck that.

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Speaker 6: I go on like I've never I literally say on it.

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Speaker 6: I was like so shocked that I'm saying. You can

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Speaker 4: No, I I liked it.

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Speaker 6: But I'm saying But what I'm saying is that I

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Speaker 7: No no no no no no no no no no no.

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Speaker 7: You can pull that audio.

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Speaker 6: I'm in control of my show. I edit, so they

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Speaker 4: No one would ever get it.

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Speaker 7: No one's ever going to see that footage if.

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Speaker 6: I don't want them to.

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Speaker 7: It's my own fame.

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Speaker 2: Present.

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Speaker 5: You restore historic homes for a living. Did you forget

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Speaker 6: No, not at all. No, and again that's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 7: So these are the words.

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Speaker 6: Like again I say, I have this saying where I

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 6: I do, I did.

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Speaker 4: I got you.

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Speaker 6: I'm that I listen. No, and what I'm what I'm

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Speaker 6: They're just not good humans.

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Speaker 4: Right, There's there's no one there.

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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously, my ex boyfriend came out and said

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, following all this, your ex boyfriend

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Speaker 7: Yes is what he said.

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Speaker 1: He's white. Yeah, yeah, but so yeah, maybe his I'm not.

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Speaker 7: Trust I don't trust that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said he can't stand you, he said, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to see her get in trouble, she is not a racist,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so he he did not like you girl anyways. Yes,

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Speaker 6: I don't use that word. That's the most important thing

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Speaker 8: Has you know anybody like in your family or even

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Speaker 7: Know you, but you fucked up.

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Speaker 3: Oh you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: You can tell that I know I fucked up the

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Speaker 6: she said that on set for a show. That's so false,

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Speaker 6: I can pull my contracts out. I wasn't shooting for AHTV.

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Speaker 7: That was my own media.

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Speaker 6: So nothing was nothing was sent to them, not they

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Speaker 3: Now it says you use the term fart digger and

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Speaker 6: So okay, so fart knocker, yes, absolutely, fart you know what?

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Speaker 6: Again it's I do you have boys in here?

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Speaker 7: Do you boys have one? Okay?

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Speaker 6: So boys talk about uh farts.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So and again I can't swear on my show. Okay,

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Speaker 6: all right, really is that what's really going on? And

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Speaker 6: again I'm not I'm not out here to convince anyone.

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Speaker 6: I'm not out here to like sell myself as a

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Speaker 7: I don't have to.

441
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Speaker 4: I know who I am.

442
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 6: The people have worked with me. The people have lived

443
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,120
Speaker 6: next to me, the people have met me, know.

444
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 4: Who I am.

445
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 2: So what does accountability look like for you?

446
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 5: Because you know, an apology is like stage in a house, right,

447
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 5: it looks nice, but what's not underneath?

448
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 6: Like underneath it's it's it's again. I've I've come out

449
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 6: and I've said I don't condone use that word. Okay,

450
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 6: So again I'm stuck here.

451
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 7: In the middle.

452
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 6: All right, So you got and honestly, the only people

453
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 6: coming at me really are are white people, like hardcore

454
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 6: at me. You have these these people over here who

455
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 6: always have to be like a missionary, right, who are like,

456
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 6: oh my gosh, you need to apologize.

457
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 4: They expect me to like sell everything I've ever.

458
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,439
Speaker 6: Had in my life, donate it to a charity, and

459
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 6: like get stoned in the streets.

460
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Speaker 4: Okay.

461
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 6: And then you have the other side of white people

462
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 6: that are like fighting these people and being like leave

463
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Speaker 6: here alone.

464
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 4: It's just a word.

465
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 6: And I've come out and.

466
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 4: I've said, it's not just a word.

467
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 2: We're these people.

468
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying that this group of white people, and

469
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 6: they have this group of white people.

470
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 2: Fighting each other, fighting each.

471
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 6: Other, and I'm in the middle right, And anyone else

472
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 6: who's known me or works with me throughout the years

473
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 6: has been like these freaking people are all crazy, like

474
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Speaker 6: what is going on here?

475
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 4: Again?

476
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Speaker 6: Yes?

477
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 4: I have, Oh, I have?

478
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: I have?

479
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Speaker 6: First of all, I apologize to my children. First was

480
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 6: the most important because my children are white. They are

481
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,719
Speaker 6: my children. But the most important thing is that I

482
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 6: have raised them knowing.

483
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 7: I absolutely have. Have you have you like I did?

484
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 1: I did?

485
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 7: Did you like it?

486
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: I did?

487
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 4: I have?

488
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 6: I've also, So the most important thing to me was

489
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 6: I've apologied. I talked to my children first. They watched

490
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 6: the clip because they were like, Mom, you don't use

491
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 6: that word. You know, we can't use that word. We're

492
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 6: not but this is like were like, mom, and I

493
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 6: have a ten year old, right, So I pulled up

494
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 6: the footage and I showed me. He goes, oh, you

495
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 6: didn't mean to say it. So I didn't mean to

496
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 6: say it. I didn't mean to say it.

497
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Speaker 3: So how did you feel when you heard the donkey today?

498
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Speaker 2: Did you?

499
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 3: And how did you get a donkey?

500
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 6: I heard the donkey because I worked with a bunch

501
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 6: of guys and they saw it and and again they

502
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 6: were like and and and listen you guys want to

503
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 6: call me donkey of the day or you know.

504
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: I get what you've called us worse.

505
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna stay silent on that one because

506
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 6: again I'm gonna I'm to say again that that was

507
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 6: not some thing that I said or meant it at

508
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 6: somebody or any I didn't even mean for that word

509
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 6: to come out. And again, I that's not the only

510
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 6: word I don't use. Okay, the R words making it comeback? Right,

511
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 6: the R word you can guess.

512
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I'm not going to say it because I

513
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 4: don't use it.

514
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: Do you know the art work just yeah, yeah, you

515
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: didn't took it there, you could say that one.

516
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, okay, well that words making a comeback, we

517
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 6: don't use that. And then then the then f f

518
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Speaker 6: f oh my goodness, reparations.

519
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,239
Speaker 1: Oh no, that that can't be the word you don't use.

520
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 4: Tell people, Okay, all right, so it's not so, yes.

521
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 8: No, the R work is in reparations, right, No, that's it.

522
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: Oh, she can't say that one? Whatnig she can't say.

523
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: Anyway?

524
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 5: So what made you decide to come to Breakfast Club

525
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 5: to this?

526
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 2: I'm sure places?

527
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, I'll tell you why. Okay,

528
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 6: I've always been somebody that I don't you guys brought

529
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 6: it up, right, and it seemed like you guys had

530
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 6: questions and things like that, and this is this is

531
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 6: this is honestly like like I'm walking in knowing that

532
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 6: you guys have made fun of me, roasted me, You've

533
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 6: had this commentary about me. Okay, I'm sorry then exactly,

534
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 6: and I understand, I understand, and I reached out to Lauren, right,

535
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 6: and I just said, can we just can we just

536
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 6: talk on the phone. I'm not you know, when when

537
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 6: this first came out, everyone suggested that I hire a

538
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 6: p A, a crisis PRT right, or.

539
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 7: Go do this or go do that and make a

540
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 7: good show of it.

541
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 4: Like no, fuck that, Like.

542
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 6: That's not what I'm about, and that's that's not what

543
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 6: I've ever done. I've always found that you can be

544
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 6: a you know, like a problem reporter or a solution seeker, right,

545
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 6: And I've always found solutions through understanding and having conversations.

546
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 6: So if you have a conversation with me, right, and

547
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 6: then you're still like, you know what, I don't believe her?

548
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 6: Fuck that she deserved donkey O the day and I don't.

549
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 4: I don't believe her.

550
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 6: That's fine, now you've met me. We've had a conversation, right,

551
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 6: I just when I when somebody judges anybody just from

552
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 6: and of course, like when they see a headline and

553
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 6: they say as she TV racial slur right, they don't

554
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 6: need to say I'm white.

555
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Speaker 4: I mean a c TV like I can't. I can't believe.

556
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: In Wyoming when that filming was happening. I'm sorry you

557
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: were in Wyoming, yes.

558
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, but I'm just saying, like everyone knew that

559
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 6: they didn't have to. I'm gonna be white, right, I'm

560
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 6: gonna be white, and then you see me, right, and

561
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 6: that's okay, Like without without meeting me, Like who do

562
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 6: you think I am?

563
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 7: Like what's your stereotypes about me?

564
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 8: That was my introduction to you, Like when you first

565
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 8: came in, you said, people have known me for thirty

566
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 8: plus years being in this industry, the you know, home restoration.

567
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 8: And then it's people that don't know me. This is

568
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 8: the people that don't know you. This is the introduction.

569
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: You know, fart nigger, you know what I mean.

570
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, So my thing is like I thought you said

571
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 8: it all the time because it came out, so definitely.

572
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 2: The word comes so naturally that word.

573
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 6: And again and and this is this is I mean,

574
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 6: if you guys want to watch the raw, like I said, no, no,

575
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 6: I said, I have the raw.

576
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: Do you want to watch?

577
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: Okay? The thing is, if you said fart digger, the

578
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 3: amount of times that you said, I just feel like

579
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: you should have released that a million and one times.

580
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: Because if you say fartnigga, fartigga figga, and it came

581
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: out there and be like, Okay, I've never heard fart digger.

582
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 3: And I watched the show yea, and I'm definitely never

583
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: heard fart nigga. So it just seems it just seems

584
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: like it's something that you've said before because it just

585
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:05,719
Speaker 3: came out.

586
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 5: So now fart diggers sound like you're playing then assholes

587
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 5: all day.

588
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 7: No, No, And I don't have that's crazy.

589
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 4: I don't have.

590
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 6: I don't have a rhyme or reason of the words

591
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 6: that I make up, Like I say, I say nonsense

592
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 6: stuff all the time.

593
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 4: I mean, and again, like even when I like, I edit.

594
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 6: My shows right, and I'll be editing my shows and

595
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 6: I'll be like, fuck, just finish. What the fuck you're

596
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 6: saying because I go off, I'm like this and that,

597
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 6: and I'm off the cuff. I'm not scripted, right, And

598
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 6: I actually like, there are there are people in my

599
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 6: genre that are a little more scripted, or they're directed,

600
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 6: or they're produced, or they have a whole video village,

601
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 6: or they have all this.

602
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't have any of that.

603
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 6: I shoot myself.

604
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: So when you try to say something else in that moment.

605
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 7: Absolutely, because you say digger and fart knocker, I.

606
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 6: Say, yes, but that's what I'm saying. I was. I

607
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 6: don't like exactly do I know my train of thought

608
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 6: in that. No, it's like a flip of a moment.

609
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 6: But I know that I wasn't saying that. First of all,

610
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 6: I would never put I didn't know.

611
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: That it was a phrase that was used.

612
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 6: But again, I don't really know a lot of I

613
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 6: stay in my little cave of restoring houses and being

614
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 6: a mom and tooling around Detroit.

615
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 5: Were like talking to yourself like, oh, just like did

616
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 5: you see the clip what I'm doing?

617
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: He's asking did you have gas on the letter?

618
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: Like? Were you talking to yourself referring to yourself as such?

619
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, what I can say is I understand.

620
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, uh not do you let me finish niggas?

621
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 5: I mean.

622
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

623
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: That's why I.

624
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: Feel comfortable.

625
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 8: She should feel comfortable because anyway, listen, I understand you

626
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 8: apologizing to your kids first, because my thought is they're

627
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 8: in some of them are in school. You know, you

628
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 8: got your twenty eight year old, but you have kids

629
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 8: in school. Yeah, and they have they may have black friends,

630
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, and for them to see

631
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 8: their friend's mom use the term and then.

632
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 7: They could be bullied for that. They could have to pay.

633
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 8: That price, you know, for something that that you said,

634
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 8: you know, for that term that you said.

635
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 7: So I understand you.

636
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 8: Apologizing to them, but is that because that may affect

637
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 8: what you know?

638
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: They go to school?

639
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 7: You said you got a team.

640
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: I apologize to them because I have.

641
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 6: Like that is just like we live in Detroit. We

642
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 6: live in Detroit.

643
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 7: Like I'm not I'm in the I'm in.

644
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 6: The Detroit that you don't see in trendy and upcoming Detroit. Right,

645
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 6: I've been in Detroit, like my grandparents were born and

646
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 6: raised in Detroit. Like I am not made for TV Detroit. Okay,

647
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 6: there are a couple of people I don't even know

648
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 6: if I can say. Can I say, am I in

649
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 6: the hood?

650
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 4: I don't even know? You know, listen, I got my playing.

651
00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

652
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is like now, I'm like, whatever

653
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 6: I say, it's gonna piss people off. But I will

654
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 6: say no. And what my truth is is I would

655
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 6: say I live in Detroit. I am in Detroiter.

656
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 7: I'm not.

657
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 6: I didn't bring I didn't create and be like, Ooh,

658
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 6: Detroit's hot and trendy right now? Can I go do

659
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 6: my show in Detroit. I'm not some token white bitch

660
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 6: that walked down the street and decided I'm going to

661
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 6: go to Detroit. I'm gonna shoot a show. I'm in Detroit.

662
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 6: I had to fight to go to Detroit. I went

663
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 6: to Detroit before Detroit was trendy, before it was I

664
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 6: don't like news Detroit, to be honest with you, I

665
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 6: like it all it was and that's what I That's

666
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 6: why I restore.

667
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: The houses betrayed by AGTV.

668
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 6: Let mean, I feel that the statement that they made

669
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 6: wasn't factual. It wasn't factual.

670
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: Not only is the language like this hurtful and disappointing

671
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: to our viewers, partner's employees. It does not allow with

672
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: the values of AHGTV. We remain dedicated to fostering the

673
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: culture of respect and inclusion across our content in our workplace.

674
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: That's a good statement.

675
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: No, excuse me, it's the beginning.

676
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 7: Other statement, not only his language.

677
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 6: No, No, they have, they had aver they had they

678
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 6: had a first thing that like, she used this, she

679
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 6: used this while shooting a show, right, which said they

680
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 6: said exactly, so it wasn't and which is funny because

681
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 6: my shows did air that day.

682
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 7: They aired across all the markets.

683
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 6: I don't know. I do not know when they were

684
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 6: told about it, and in fact, I wasn't. The reason

685
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 6: I found out is because I was leaving school and

686
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 6: I got do you know Ryan over at TMZ Lauren. Yes, okay,

687
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 6: so Ryan, Ryan had called me and then I didn't

688
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 6: answer the calls because I don't take calls when I'm

689
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 6: picking up the kids. And then he sent me a

690
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 6: text and he said, hey, it's Ryan AMZ. Do you

691
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 6: think sometimes I'm saying I found I'm sorry, but I

692
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 6: found out about that. And then the statement they made

693
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 6: and then people were saying, oh, they pulled her show

694
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 6: from the air.

695
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 7: They already aired it that day.

696
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 6: Nobody called. Nobody called to even verify that the footage

697
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 6: was real, Like is it ai?

698
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 7: Is it?

699
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: So?

700
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: They said?

701
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: They said that AHGTV was recently made aware of an

702
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: offensive racial comment made during the filming a rehab addict.

703
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: Not only is the language hurtful and then and it's

704
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: disappointed to our viewers, partners and employees. It did not align.

705
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: So that's what Envy mentioned. Remain dedicated. They said that

706
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: they have removed this series from all HGTV platforms, and

707
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: of report I saw said that even though the footage

708
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: was some years old, it was used in your season ten.

709
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: That statement is accurate. It's a hurtful statement.

710
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm not saying that that's not accurate.

711
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 7: I'm saying that they were.

712
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 6: They said that that was the filming for for that

713
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 6: and it wasn't that.

714
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

715
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 6: It matters because it makes it sound like I was

716
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 6: in a I was shooting and then I was in

717
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 6: a room full of people and I'm like, oh my gosh,

718
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 6: you know, like cut that all and going crazy like that.

719
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 6: That wasn't why I wanted it deleted and back I

720
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 6: wanted delete it because I didn't want I was like,

721
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 6: I just don't even want that word in existence. I

722
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 6: don't like hearing that word. Of course I've heard, but

723
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 6: I'm sorry it's stepped in your music, in my music. No,

724
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 6: I I personally have never put out music or sold music.

725
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: I do.

726
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 6: I do listen to that. I do? Do you guys?

727
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 6: You guys have to you have two changes in here today, don't.

728
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 4: No, I'm not. I'm not saying it, no, No, I'm.

729
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 6: Just saying, like I know I've seening.

730
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: It because like I didn't. And again, no matter.

731
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 6: What I say, somebody's going to you're using this.

732
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you have specific songs, It's okay.

733
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 6: So what I'm gonna say again is that I was

734
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 6: at sound check, like I don't know ten years ago.

735
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 6: That's where I met Tyler the Creator because I worked

736
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 6: a Tyler the Creator to design his show in La

737
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 6: on fairbax right, and then like two change was there.

738
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 6: So I'm not again, And that's why I asked you,

739
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 6: what do you do? You look at me and think

740
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 6: like that's just some white woman and she sits up

741
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 6: in her suburban home and she's.

742
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: Rappers.

743
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 6: No, I'm not I'm saying. I'm saying when you say, like,

744
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 6: how do you know this? How do you know this word?

745
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 6: Or why why do you listen to that?

746
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: So then I so you know to word because of the rappers.

747
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 6: I'm I live in Detroit, man, Like I don't know,

748
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 6: because the history the word all the time. Like you hear,

749
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 6: I don't say it, Okay. I was raised not to

750
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 6: say it. I taught my children not to say it.

751
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: So you ask.

752
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 6: Historical content, No, no, no, of course no. No. I

753
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 6: again again, like I have been in Detroit and again

754
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 6: Detroit now Detroit now has like we never saw white

755
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 6: people in Detroit and never saw white people in Detroit. Okay,

756
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 6: now it's trendy. It is trendy now okay, and like

757
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 6: it's it hit like one of your top travel cities

758
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 6: to go to or something, right, and if you go

759
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 6: downtown now it's all white people.

760
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure this out, trying to prove here

761
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: about keeping you're from Detroit and you're around rappers, and.

762
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: She had told you anywhere.

763
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: But I think it's a learning moment for you because

764
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: even though right, so, look when I first heard this

765
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: and all this, I was just like Okay, this is

766
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 1: another white lady who just is the racist or doesn't

767
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: understand what she's saying whatever, And you have that privilege

768
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: to do that. We don't have the privilege to not

769
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: understand what we're saying while we're saying it. So even

770
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: in this moment, you may not mean anything by saying

771
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: I live in Detroit, I live in neighborhoods that people

772
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to go to, and talking about all these things.

773
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: But because you have the privilege, you have to be

774
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: very aware of Even if you didn't get caught saying

775
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: the N word on this video, it still would come

776
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: off as very privileged and very unbalanced because it's different

777
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: for us. And that's what we're trying to have a conversation.

778
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,479
Speaker 5: And I agree with Lauren, and I would also add,

779
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 5: do you think sometimes privilege makes people think they can

780
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 5: say anything?

781
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 7: Oh?

782
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And those are the people I'm fighting.

783
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: I told you I'm called in the middle here.

784
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 6: So then there's people saying there's people out there saying

785
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 6: it's just a cussword. She somebody actually said like she

786
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 6: swears a lot, But I'm like, no, funk off, I

787
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 6: say funk off, right, I don't say that word. I

788
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 6: know that I do not say it, and I and

789
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 6: again I teach, I teach why we don't say it.

790
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 6: I teach again with the R word or any other word.

791
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: That word.

792
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 7: You do not know it.

793
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 6: I know what is because you might use it.

794
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: I don't you Okay, well it's used.

795
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 6: To describe it, it was used to describe people.

796
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 5: And then come into a black radio show and trying

797
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 5: to explain yourself about it that you know and you

798
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 5: know what.

799
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: You're right, you're right, you're right. I can't hear.

800
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 6: I can't here to have a conversation and yeah, yeah,

801
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 6: but I don't. I would say, please, don't use that word,

802
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 6: and then I would explain to people why don't please

803
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 6: don't use exactly, And people have said around me, I'm like,

804
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 6: don't use that word around me, do not, we don't

805
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 6: use Imagine.

806
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: Hearing them together, can you imagine your brain would just.

807
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 6: But I listen, conversation, I got it.

808
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 3: Yes, I would say, you're you're very brave to come

809
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: up here to have this conversation. I will say that,

810
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: and you did apologize.

811
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: It's not brave for coming up here having a conversation.

812
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: It's not brave.

813
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 8: Yesterday, yeah, with you, she could have went to any

814
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 8: other I would just say, you know, we wish you

815
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 8: the best of luck.

816
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm glad you you're facing this and not running away.

817
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're not hiring a team, a pr team

818
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: to to try to watch this under the rug. I

819
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: mean what you said with some up ship and.

820
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 1: I still had no accountability though, Okay, may I ask something?

821
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: Then?

822
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 7: Let me ask you this, because.

823
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: I have really the best apology is really changed behavior,

824
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 5: and we don't know you exactly exactly.

825
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 4: And and Charlamagne again, I will I will tell you this.

826
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 6: I will tell you this if you if if if

827
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 6: I'm out and about and let's say God gives me

828
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 6: forty more years, okay, I will challenge you. I know

829
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 6: that I will never use that word again. I know

830
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 6: that I did not use that word before. And I

831
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 6: know that I have spent my life that when I

832
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 6: do hear that word.

833
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 7: Or you know, it's not even that.

834
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 6: Word, it's any time people are using language or conversation

835
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 6: that is offensive to other people and hurting people.

836
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: Right.

837
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 6: I am that I am not one to shy away

838
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 6: from confrontation. I am one that's like, that's not fucking right,

839
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 6: don't fucking say that.

840
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: How do we even know you believe in God?

841
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 6: You keep swearing to them, but we don't even listen.

842
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 6: I because I swear, you would think that I don't.

843
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 6: But I'm Catholic and I guess we're allowed to swear.

844
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 6: We swear a little bit more.

845
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 5: Are you prepared for this? Are you prepared for this

846
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 5: to be the thing people remember?

847
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

848
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 6: Not, No, no, and it's their choice. Again, I can't.

849
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 6: I'm not going to go out here. And again, what

850
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 6: matters most to me right, my children know who I am.

851
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 6: My friends and may have family know who I am.

852
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 6: Back home, they know who I am, and like, is

853
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 6: this going to define me? If people want to define

854
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 6: Nicole Curtis by this seven seconds of my forty nine

855
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 6: years on earth, then fucking let them because I can't

856
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 6: convince them otherwise. I know I can show them. I

857
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 6: can do everything in the world I could. I could

858
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 6: do what you and let me ask you something, because

859
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 6: I've asked this. I literally gave out my phone number

860
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 6: and I said, listen, let's have a conversation. And anyone

861
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 6: that DMed me again, I didn't put a person out,

862
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 6: I didn't put a rep out I said, just call me.

863
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 4: Here's my cell phone number.

864
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 6: I talked with Lauren on the phone, and it wasn't

865
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 6: just Lauren, it was so many people that I just

866
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 6: had conversations with, and you know, and they again looked

867
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 6: at me and just knew that I was this white woman.

868
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 6: What a TV show? And I said the word okay,

869
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 6: and I said, so let's have that.

870
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 7: Yes, do you regret saying absolutely.

871
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 6: That's what I show as soon as I said it.

872
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 6: And I didn't regret it.

873
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: Again, if you're looking at.

874
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 6: It like she just regrets it because somebody is gonna

875
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 6: get the footage, No, nobody.

876
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: Would have got the footage.

877
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 7: It was mine.

878
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: It's mine, so you put it out.

879
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 7: No, I didn't put it.

880
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 6: There's only two people, two people on this planet that

881
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 6: had access to that footage.

882
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 8: Saying that she would treat staff like ship, you know

883
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 8: what I mean? So somebody, no, no.

884
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, none of my staff had this.

885
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 6: I'm not going to throw my staff funder the bus

886
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 6: because one they couldn't. Again, I'm not sure how you

887
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 6: guys work, but he can't walk out of here with

888
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 6: your media.

889
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: Come in, nigga, stop laughing.

890
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 7: I can't with you I can't.

891
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: I can't.

892
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: Him. Thank you, Nicole.

893
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 6: Appreciated, and we have those conversations, and shot give you

894
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 6: my word that I've always had those conversations with people.

895
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 6: I will continue to have those conversations with people, and

896
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 6: somewhere down the line, when we run into each other again,

897
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 6: which I always believe that God crosses your paths and

898
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 6: weird strange ways, that we can have this conversation again.

899
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 6: And maybe when day you're bored ship and you just

900
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 6: decide to deep dive me. Besides, you know this, this

901
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 6: this random headline that came out about me and whatever,

902
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 6: and maybe we can have that conversation or maybe we

903
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 6: work on something down the road, anything like that. But again,

904
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 6: i'm is it is it going to ruin my life

905
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 6: that you know people have this idea? I mean, it's

906
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 6: it's not, it's it's it's what matters is the people

907
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: who know me.

908
00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: Don't you do it?

909
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: Why did you let her pick the song she got play.

910
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 5: Lest Nope, she never even played the extended footage of whatever.

911
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: That she was trying she was trying to. You didn't

912
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: let her how many minutes long? Thirty five minutes?

913
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: Right?

914
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 5: No?

915
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, we No, I just scrabbed

916
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 6: the part part before.

917
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 4: You could part.

918
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: So if you want to see it, you should play it.

919
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: But why are you doing that? But the full is

920
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes?

921
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: No?

922
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: I mean what was the full?

923
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: How?

924
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: Because your guy in a video, Yes, when you say

925
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: kill it, he says, I'm not going to kill it

926
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: because I have thirty five minutes. Yes, yes, so there

927
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: was more content so it didn't need to kill it

928
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: in that minute. And the reason I brought that up

929
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: is because what I hope you learned from this is

930
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: the heaviness of it, because the way y'all just moved

931
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: on after you said it, No, I didn't.

932
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 4: I didn't.

933
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

934
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 7: It's edited.

935
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: I didn't move on.

936
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 7: We cut cameras.

937
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: I didn't move on. It's edited.

938
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 7: It's edited.

939
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 6: It is edited to look like I just moved and.

940
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: I did regardless. She says, foul ship. It doesn't matter

941
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: if she moved on or not that she was foul.

942
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: She's saying she's apologized, and she.

943
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: And I did exactly.

944
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 6: But but and I'm telling you, I cut cameras because

945
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 6: I was so like, I can't believe that just happened.

946
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 4: I can't believe that just came out of my mouth

947
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: on the Cole Curtain.

948
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: Gentlemen, they can't catch you on a g TV, So

949
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: how can people see your show?

950
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 6: I mean, hey, you just you let me know you're

951
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 6: coming to Detroit. You can come to a job site

952
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 6: with me and work. That's usually where people find me.

953
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: So no, I know.

954
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 4: I can't.

955
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, And then he says, and he doesn't believe, he doesn't.

956
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 4: Believe that that comes out of the mouth.

957
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 8: Okay, and her chill No, But I'm saying, like she said,

958
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 8: you can come to a work site with her.

959
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to know.

960
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 6: My last question, Oh my gosh, hang on, let me

961
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 6: let me get.

962
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 5: What are just some things you plan to do to

963
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 5: maybe provide some healing for the people you heard? Because

964
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 5: because those white people that are trying to get donations

965
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 5: from you aren't wrong, but I just don't know if

966
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 5: you should.

967
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 6: Exactly right, I'm going to continue the work that I

968
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 6: have done, and that's and again I don't.

969
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: I don't.

970
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 6: I don't invest in Detroit and sell properties and make money.

971
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 6: I fight that I go and restore historical pieces of

972
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 6: our history in Detroit where they're not getting federal grants

973
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 6: where there's not state money, where where the the big

974
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 6: developers aren't going in because those neighborhoods, those people that

975
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 6: have lived in Detroit all their life, right, and even

976
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 6: like even I have bought houses to save people from

977
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 6: losing their houses to tax for closure.

978
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.

979
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 4: I have fought.

980
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 6: I have fought these fucking cities about turning our cities

981
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 6: that have people that have lived in all their lives

982
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 6: and then yanking their homes from them, or tearing their

983
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 6: homes down and then building, you know, all of this stuff.

984
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 6: That's what I'm going to continue doing. I'm going to

985
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 6: continue my work like that. And that's what I do,

986
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 6: is that I'm in my neighborhood's working like that, investing

987
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 6: my own money that I don't have to. I don't

988
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 6: get money back from investing in Detroit because I'm investing

989
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: in negative market value areas. Okay, there is no market value.

990
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 6: There's nothing for me to gain except for rebuilding, rebuilding

991
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 6: our history there.

992
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: That's what's important to me.

993
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 6: When you rebuild history, when you maintain that history and

994
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 6: that uniqueness, that neighborhood can thrive and survive, thrive and survive.

995
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 6: And that's my battle in all these cities that I've

996
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 6: lived in, is that you have to have sustainability. And

997
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 6: it's not going to be in your trendy new markets.

998
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 6: It's not going to be bringing in the white people

999
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 6: so they can have a studio apartment now right. It's

1000
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 6: going to be surviving those neighborhoods that were already there,

1001
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 6: keeping the uniqueness, keeping the history, keeping it intech, keeping

1002
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 6: the people that made that city, have been in that

1003
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 6: city their entire life, making it so that they can

1004
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 6: stay there.

1005
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: So you make affordable housing for the people who've always

1006
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: lived there.

1007
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 6: There's no such thing as affordable housing. Do you not

1008
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 6: know that? That's all a bullshit? Like in nonprofits, not

1009
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 6: a nonprofit, they make profit.

1010
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: What you should do is what you're saying that you're

1011
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: doing in Detroit. There's a lot of young African American

1012
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: people in Detroit that and that would love to learn

1013
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: in a way that they can understand what this industry is,

1014
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: how to build, and that's what you should do. You

1015
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: should teach that from your point of view because you've

1016
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: been there. You know how to get cheap, you know

1017
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: how to do the construction. That's what you should do.

1018
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 7: And that's what we have.

1019
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 6: That's what we have, and that's what I'm saying. That

1020
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 6: is what my work has been about.

1021
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: All black investors, that is what my.

1022
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 6: Work has been about, because that's what we've been doing,

1023
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 6: you know, since I start. I bought my first house

1024
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 6: at nineteen years old from cleaning houses, not because Daddy

1025
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 6: bought it for me, you know, And that's the hustle

1026
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 6: that I've always had to be on.

1027
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: You guys have all.

1028
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 7: I can struggle.

1029
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: It was a young mom like I should have.

1030
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 6: You know. Again, nobody handed me anything cleaned houses. I

1031
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 6: worked jobs like and I saved that money and the

1032
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 6: only thing I could afford I still can't find.

1033
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: I don't go and finance. I think I pay cash.

1034
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 6: No one's going to finance my ass. I mean definitely

1035
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 6: not now, no, no, no. But I'm saying, like I've

1036
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 6: never had anything traditional, so that's why I had to

1037
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 6: figure out how to make it work.

1038
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 7: And I do work.

1039
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not a spokesperson for my TV show

1040
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 6: where I'm a TV star. I'm a contractor. I'm a builder.

1041
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 6: I mean, I have callouses on my hands because I work.

1042
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm like, I'm not, you know, like TMZ.

1043
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 6: Laurence said, I look like shit the other day, and

1044
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 6: all my fans were like, she always looks like shit,

1045
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 6: you know, like she always looks no, no, I know

1046
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, like TMZ. Though, like they said it,

1047
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 6: they made fun of me because they said that I

1048
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 6: was like hiding out shoveled, and I'm like, appreciate.

1049
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, she should watch the movie Detroit as well. They

1050
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 8: watched since you're a Detroit native and you in this.

1051
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 7: Old chabibble whammy, I watch.

1052
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, uh, Detroit, just watch that. But definitely, you know,

1053
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 8: teach black and.

1054
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: Athletes and helping entrepreneurs, young entrepreneurs in Detroit. Detroit was

1055
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: a hot market a couple of years ago. It was

1056
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: still list and you should teach him how to make

1057
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 3: some money and body first homes.

1058
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, I mean, but like I said, the

1059
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 6: sad thing is that I don't That's not I don't

1060
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 6: make money on my home. So what we but honestly,

1061
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 6: what we have done, that is exactly what I've done

1062
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 6: that and if and again I don't, I don't have

1063
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 6: cameras on all the time, right, I just shoot what

1064
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 6: I'm gonna shoot what.

1065
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 7: I'm on my job sites all the time.

1066
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 6: And I would invite any of you to come to

1067
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 6: Detroit any day you want to and no, not even that,

1068
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 6: but you can't. But I just say, like people like

1069
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 6: smashing out you know stuff, but come and see come

1070
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 6: and see my job site and you'll see it's not

1071
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 6: it's not a TV show and it's and I do.

1072
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 4: Have I like I have to. I don't. I can't

1073
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 4: say anybody right for you.

1074
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 6: No, I'm just saying I work with people from my city.

1075
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 6: The people that work for me are from my city.

1076
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 6: So it's not it's not I'm not saying anything in

1077
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 6: front of him right now. Yeah, but I'm saying like

1078
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 6: that is what you see, and of course, and that

1079
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 6: as a teacher, and that's what's my point.

1080
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 4: I don't teach in a classroom.

1081
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 6: I teach on a job site, right because if you

1082
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 6: teach skills right, then they can always go And like

1083
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 6: I tell everybody, you can go get a college degree, right,

1084
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 6: but what when AI takes your job. You know how

1085
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 6: to be a master plumber. You can plumb, you can

1086
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 6: you can do h fast, you.

1087
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: Can build, you can do any of that.

1088
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 6: Those are the people that are the millionaires right now, right,

1089
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 6: So that is what I teach, that is what I

1090
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 6: give back, and that's already what we do because again

1091
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 6: I'm a mom.

1092
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 7: I got a.

1093
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 6: Twenty eight year old and so he's grown up around that,

1094
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 6: which again is why I was so disappointed in myself

1095
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 6: for saying that word. Because I am the matriarcher of

1096
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 6: my family and the leader of my children. I am

1097
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 6: a teacher. And if if people think that me saying

1098
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 6: that word is okay, then I'm that is That's why

1099
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 6: I was so DISTI I do, I did, and I do.

1100
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Speaker 6: I apologize, Yes I do. And to everyone out there,

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Speaker 6: just Charlotte Mane's you're aware, that is a word that

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Speaker 6: I do not condone. So the people out there that

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Speaker 6: do not use me as an example, right, That's that's

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Speaker 6: where I've been coming out against people saying, hey, just

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Speaker 6: because I said it, I made a mistake. I know,

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Speaker 6: I'm inde a mistake. You watch that?

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Speaker 7: Did you even the edited bullshit? You know that.

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Speaker 6: I am like, Ugh, so no, don't use me as

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Speaker 6: your poster child for that bullshit.

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Speaker 5: And I don't want you to think, yeah, coming on

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Speaker 5: the Breakfast Club is just going to rehabilitate your Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: In fact, it might increase the chances and you walking

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Speaker 5: through the airport and somebody going, that's the fart nigga.

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Speaker 6: Yeah no, I mean you have a lot of people

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Speaker 6: why and again I didn't. I didn't come on here

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Speaker 6: to prove myself. I came on here you said some

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Speaker 6: questions about me. If you had some questions, get it

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Speaker 6: from the source, right when you have a dispute, get

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Speaker 6: it from the source.

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Speaker 3: That is Nicole Curtis and it is the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, thank you for every day up the Breakfast Club. Finish,

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Speaker 3: y'all done,