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Speaker 1: That is awesome because tonight both coaches will be on

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know who is personal chauffeurs tonight? Who's that?

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Speaker 1: We're at the Grove here in downtown Houston. Just a

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Speaker 6: Well, this has been a great trip for us. We've

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Speaker 2: Coach I wanted to get into this a.

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Speaker 5: Coach, you played with a couple of great running backs,

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Speaker 2: Hits, yep.

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Speaker 6: And he gets stronger as the game goes on. His

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Speaker 6: But he is special from the standpoint. He has great vision,

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Speaker 1: m all right, you mentioned the culture and everything you've

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Speaker 2: With the transfer portal.

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Speaker 4: It is absolutely insane what's happening out there.

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Speaker 1: How difficult is it. It's got to make things a

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Speaker 6: Well, it's we have a ways to go, because essentially

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Speaker 6: And the portal has been a shocking process to be so,

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Speaker 6: The border has been veered in the direction of somewhat

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Speaker 6: but it is there. It's not supposed to be tampering

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Speaker 6: I'm not worried about it. I'm in year twenty, so

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Speaker 6: Because of the portal. So they're the ones that have

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Speaker 6: At least we know what we're dealing with. Until then,

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Speaker 6: It's like a speed limit, but nobody's ever out there

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Speaker 6: You know. I have a good friend of mine, Chuck

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Speaker 6: the best we can. We try to make quality decisions

439
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Speaker 6: and change with the times of this is what a

440
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Speaker 6: college football is, and try to continue to work to

441
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Speaker 6: win games and graduate players instead of just saying we

442
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Speaker 6: need to change this and complaining because it's not going

443
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Speaker 6: back in the bottle.

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Speaker 1: It's over all right, Well, great stuff, coach. We appreciate you, bet,

445
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Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Against Texas A and M eight o'clock

446
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Speaker 1: tomorrow and night. We appreciate you, bet, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Happy New.

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Speaker 4: Year, Happy new year, coach.

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Speaker 1: Mike Gundhy Oklahoma State Cowboys and the Tax Act Texas Bowl.

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Speaker 1: All right, great conversation with coach My gosh. I knew

451
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Speaker 1: it was going to be good. It was even better

452
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Speaker 1: than I thought. Uh, we're gonna get Elijah Robinson in

453
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Speaker 1: here as well, who is the interim for Texas A

454
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Speaker 1: and M, and that's got to be interesting to manage

455
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Speaker 1: that transition.

456
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Speaker 2: He's got a.

457
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Speaker 5: Lot going on because he's trying to manage going to

458
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Speaker 5: Syracuse to be defensive coordinator and this game, and boy,

459
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Speaker 5: it's that's that's a t I don't know how you

460
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Speaker 5: do it. But he's got one more for the Aggies

461
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Speaker 5: and so we'll see how that goes well.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that really jumped out to me was sustainability,

463
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Speaker 1: because he's right, if I'm a big donor, I gave

464
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Speaker 1: a million dollars for whoever, and now it's gone, and

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Speaker 1: now you're coming back to.

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Speaker 7: Me for what.

467
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Speaker 4: Right I've been what are we doing?

468
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Speaker 5: I've been saying this for a while that university is

469
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Speaker 5: the next hurdle for universities. When you go to your

470
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Speaker 5: big donors and you ask for money, usually you've been

471
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Speaker 5: going back that's for money for what? For facilities? Yeah,

472
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Speaker 5: you put you put a name up on the facility.

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Speaker 5: You know, the market immortalized, right, you're moralized. It's there forever.

474
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Speaker 5: Now you're going to them and you're saying, hey, uh,

475
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Speaker 5: we need a million for our collective.

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Speaker 1: And then the kid gets hurt or Look, we all

477
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Speaker 1: see the commercials with the uage kids. At least they're

478
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Speaker 1: getting you know, they're gotting some pop back, They're okay,

479
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Speaker 1: they're getting absolutely name in image likeness, and I know

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Speaker 1: that there's always something attached to it.

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Speaker 5: I love it for the good. I love it mark

482
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Speaker 5: for the players. I love the sure tuning for the players.

483
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Speaker 5: But Coach's biggest thing that he just said was you

484
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Speaker 5: gotta be able to wrap your arms around it. You've

485
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Speaker 5: got to be able to set guidelines. You're probably gonna

486
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Speaker 5: have to start setting in NAO and to do some

487
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Speaker 5: of the things in the NFL has been doing what

488
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Speaker 5: the NFL has been doing. College sports needs to look

489
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Speaker 5: at it. I know they're not the NFL. Like I

490
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Speaker 5: get that traditions and all that. It's always gonna be

491
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Speaker 5: college football NFL. The are gonna be different. But the

492
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Speaker 5: way that the NFL does things with pro and college scouting,

493
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Speaker 5: you're gonna have to have four year in portal scouting.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have to do it just like the NFL,

495
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Speaker 5: but you're gonna have to get to the point where

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Speaker 5: you have some parameters, you have some rules. The NFL,

497
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Speaker 5: we got the cap you know your salary cap is X. Yep,

498
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Speaker 5: you have rules. That's just transparency. As coach, he kept

499
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Speaker 5: mentioning that word transparency. That's what they don't have in

500
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Speaker 5: college football, and that's what they need. Check not Chack Kelly.

501
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Speaker 5: Chip Kelly had some great comments about what he thought

502
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Speaker 5: they could do with college football and make it better

503
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Speaker 5: for everybody, and I thought it was absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Well, we shall see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's absolutely a market correction of

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Speaker 1: sorts coming and we'll find out how that goes before

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Speaker 1: we go to break. Johnny quick thoughts on CJ coming back,

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Speaker 1: that's the report.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you absolutely have to have him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a lot of benefits in some

511
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Speaker 5: sense the fact that CJ. I don't want to say

512
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Speaker 5: that I was happy you had the concussion. His body

513
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Speaker 5: needed to rest.

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Speaker 2: I think his body needed to arrest it hits anyway.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he was taking a lot of hits the

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Speaker 5: concussion on top of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to see two games without CJ. But

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Speaker 5: I think just to get his body back, to get

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Speaker 5: his you know, get the concussion symptoms as far away

521
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Speaker 5: from him as possible. And now on Sunday, if he does,

522
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Speaker 5: in fact play against the Tennessee Titans. I don't care

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Speaker 5: how you protect him, but you put him in a

524
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Speaker 5: box back there, and you better not. If you're an

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Speaker 5: off it's a lineman, tight end, running back. You don't

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Speaker 5: let anybody touch him like it is. That's your goal.

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Speaker 4: You go thirteen personnel.

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Speaker 5: Thirteen personnels, max protection, two guys in routes you know

529
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Speaker 5: Nico and whomever in routes, and you let him. You

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Speaker 5: let him fire away and see what you can do.

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Speaker 5: So I'm just excited to see him back. He's been

532
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Speaker 5: such a such a big piece. In fact, on matchup tonight.

533
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Speaker 5: You'll hear it after the show. So I did the

534
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Speaker 5: ultimate eleven offense. I'm doing offensive the ultimate eleven offensive

535
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Speaker 5: plays this week, ull to eleven defensive plays next week.

536
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Speaker 5: So you're gonna hear a lot of the great plays

537
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Speaker 5: that CJ's had this year. And it's just as I

538
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Speaker 5: was going back through it that I just realized how

539
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Speaker 5: great he's been this year.

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Speaker 2: So you'll hear that after this.

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Speaker 1: We've missed him, we'll talk about it, and more guests

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Speaker 1: coming your way as well. From the chairman's reception, Taxak

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Speaker 1: Texas Bowl downtown Houston. We will catch up with Elijah Robinson,

544
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Speaker 1: some of the Texans Gridirons legends class, because that is

545
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Speaker 1: going to be great to hear from some of these gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Gotta get Bruce Matthews in here. We'll see who knows.

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Speaker 1: We're here till eight o'clock live. It's Texans Radio and

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio is live tonight from the Chairman's reception for

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Speaker 1: the Tax Act Texas Bowl Wednesday night, eight o'clock NRG Stadium,

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Speaker 1: Texas A and M.

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Speaker 2: And Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 1: We heard from Cowboys head coach Mike Gundy and now

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Speaker 1: the head coach interim coach of the Aggies, Elijah Robinson. Coach,

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Speaker 1: how's it going, Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 4: For being with us.

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Speaker 7: It's going well. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, this has got to be very unique, this

558
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Speaker 1: whole situation, and you're managing through it. So can you

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Speaker 1: tell us your feelings about being in the bowl game

560
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Speaker 1: and taking care of everything you need to take care

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Speaker 1: of to get the Aggi's ready to play.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 8: Like I said, when I had an opportunity to be

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Speaker 8: an interim head coach, the main thing for me was

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Speaker 8: just doing was best for these players. So these guys

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Speaker 8: been engaged. They really got out there a practice with

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Speaker 8: the guys we do have that showed up. He wants

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Speaker 8: to practice, so we're excited to get after it.

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Speaker 5: Coach, you get the last couple of games to be

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Speaker 5: the interim coach, what's that experience.

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Speaker 2: Been like for you?

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Speaker 8: That's been awesome, you know, just like I said, I

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Speaker 8: always try to pride myself as a coach that have

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Speaker 8: relationship with more than just my position group, but just

575
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Speaker 8: really managing everything from the players to the coaches and

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Speaker 8: giving the coaches what they need ahead of time so

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Speaker 8: that where they're not working behind the schedule. So try

578
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Speaker 8: to stay a day or two ahead just to make

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Speaker 8: sure we were efficient with our timing.

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Speaker 2: Coach, I've always thought about this.

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Speaker 5: When you're coaching, you're coaching ball, you're coaching your position,

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Speaker 5: you're coaching technique, you're doing all that. Then you become

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Speaker 5: a head coach and then you gotta worry about timeouts,

584
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Speaker 5: you gotta worry about there be of loveny in the field,

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Speaker 5: you gotta worry about all those other things that you

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Speaker 5: really don't you don't really learn about as a coach

587
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Speaker 5: because you're teaching your technique and you're doing all that,

588
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Speaker 5: how was that aspect kind of the game operation for you?

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Speaker 2: Kind of jumping into that role.

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Speaker 8: I think the best thing is just the guys you

591
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Speaker 8: work with, you know, not just names, but just guys

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Speaker 8: that had the experience, like coach Dirk and he was

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Speaker 8: a head coach, you know, Cooley was a coordinator, you

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Speaker 8: know early on just to some of the guy had

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Speaker 8: a lot of guys on the staff that was head coaches,

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Speaker 8: even coach between before he left. So between coach Kohley,

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Speaker 8: Coach Dirk and they make it easy. And again when

598
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Speaker 8: you come to the rule as a head coach, you

599
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Speaker 8: just start to understand you're a CEO of manager making

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Speaker 8: sure everything works together.

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Speaker 7: So I got a great staff.

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Speaker 8: Those guys are really doing a great job working together,

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Speaker 8: so well, I think we'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Coach Elijah robertson Aggie interim head coach, coach, what's it

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Speaker 1: like to keep track or find out who you really

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Speaker 1: have to work with on the field, Because the whole

607
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Speaker 1: process of when you took over, all right, who's available,

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Speaker 1: who's in the portal, who's really willing to play or

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Speaker 1: ready to play? As you pointed, out who's ready to pay?

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Speaker 1: How has that been for you? How do you keep

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Speaker 1: track of all that?

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Speaker 8: Well, the great thing I want to first, you know,

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Speaker 8: shout out to the Texas A and M fans because they

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Speaker 8: can give us advantage there, you know. But I want

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Speaker 8: to give a shout out to the donors because they

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Speaker 8: make it easy for us to recruit.

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Speaker 7: You know. So when you get in a situation like this,

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Speaker 7: as far as.

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Speaker 8: Having guys opt out, having guys to do out because

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Speaker 8: of the injuries or training for the NFL, what you

621
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Speaker 8: gotta do is you gotta relow on the talent you

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Speaker 8: had that's been sitting in the couver waiting, you know.

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Speaker 8: And some of those guys a young guys, don't have

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Speaker 8: a lot of experience, but we gotta get them ready.

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Speaker 8: That's what it is. We have a next, next man

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Speaker 8: up mentality. And I said, I talked to those guys

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Speaker 8: today about manage your time. Let's take advantage of it.

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Speaker 8: You know, don't worry about making mistakes. You should feel nervous,

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Speaker 8: but let's just go play.

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Speaker 5: Coach Jalen got an opportunity the last couple of weeks

631
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Speaker 5: at quarterback, played very very well against Mississippi State. He's

632
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Speaker 5: done some good things for the program. With obviously the

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Speaker 5: injuries you've had at quarterback. What are you seeing in

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Speaker 5: Jaalen Henderson, your young man playing QB.

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Speaker 8: He's a unique individual. You know, they weighed his time.

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Speaker 8: He's really mature the ways you know, I think he

637
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Speaker 8: brings some juice to the sideline with our guys. Our

638
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Speaker 8: guys behind him has his back one hundred and he

639
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Speaker 8: really I think when he came as a third string quarterback,

640
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Speaker 8: our players really locked into complimentary football. Understand how we

641
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Speaker 8: got to play off each other. So that's all three

642
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Speaker 8: phases from special teams, the defense to offense earned how

643
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Speaker 8: we all have to play together.

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Speaker 7: I had to give him the best shot to lead us.

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Speaker 1: What about this game against Oklahoma State? What are we

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Speaker 1: looking for? What are some of the key factors for

647
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Speaker 1: the Aggies to pull out the victory.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you this is a great program that

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Speaker 8: we're gonna play against. They were just in the Big

650
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Speaker 8: Twelve championship for a reason my year that I spent

651
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Speaker 8: that Baylor in the Big twelve. Understand Uh, coach Gundy

652
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Speaker 8: and he's what he's gonna get done there. So for us, man,

653
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Speaker 8: we have to lock into the small things. We know

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Speaker 8: one thing they want to do everyone to run the ball.

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Speaker 8: Who they have over there, and that old line is experienced.

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Speaker 8: They're nasty, they stay, they finished blocks, but they can

657
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Speaker 8: throw the ball just as well. And I think everybody

658
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Speaker 8: talks just about the dope Walker wardin he's legit, he's elite,

659
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Speaker 8: you know. But they also have some guys where they

660
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Speaker 8: can catch the ball. That kind of put us on

661
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Speaker 8: our toes. So we just got to show up, whether

662
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Speaker 8: it's ten guys, eleven guys, fifteen guys, and we gotta

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Speaker 8: go out there and be prepared to win.

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Speaker 2: Number eighty man, he was tremendous against Houston. I saw

665
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Speaker 2: that game.

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Speaker 5: Yet fifteen catches Bryan Presley all over the field just

667
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Speaker 5: making plays and he's maybe what five ten eight and

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Speaker 5: it just makes plays And coach, I think that's one

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Speaker 5: thing that we've talked about for the Texans playmakers making plays.

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00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: You've got a lot of playmakers. How much of that

671
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 5: is a key where your playmakers tomorrow got to make

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Speaker 5: those plays to get you win.

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Speaker 8: We have to do a great job on offense, making

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Speaker 8: a job easy for a quarterback. The guys around will

675
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 8: have to play well. The ole line has to protect.

676
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 8: We have to run the ball. We have to stay

677
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Speaker 8: on schedule on defense. First thing we got to do

678
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 8: stop the run, you know, and that's a challenge, you know,

679
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 8: and guys challenge. We have to do everything possible to

680
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Speaker 8: stop the run. But also you just mentioned President like

681
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Speaker 8: he's the real deal. So they have a great team.

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Speaker 7: You know. We're looking forward to the challenge.

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Speaker 4: What is it like to be in this game in Houston?

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Speaker 1: And I know it's good for all programs to have

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Speaker 1: exposure here with the recruiting hotbed that it is, but

686
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Speaker 1: also Tahack Texas Bowl, how they're taking care of you.

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Speaker 4: The experience of being here. How's that been for you, coach?

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Speaker 7: This is my second time being here at this Bowl.

689
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Speaker 7: Has been awesome.

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Speaker 8: We got a bunch of guys on our team from

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Speaker 8: the Houston area, so for see those.

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Speaker 7: Guys get a chance to be home.

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Speaker 8: We actually cut practice, but we started a practice little

694
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Speaker 8: bit later on Christmas Day to allow our guys to

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Speaker 8: go see their family.

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Speaker 7: So it's been really good.

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Speaker 8: I know that AG is gonna show up and show

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Speaker 8: out and support our guys, So looking forward to that.

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Speaker 8: Like I said, I recruit this area, so it's happiness

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Speaker 8: to see some I walked upstairs, I just saw a

701
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Speaker 8: few high school coaches that who I'm gonna use their

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Speaker 8: in their offices and try to recruit their players.

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Speaker 7: So I'm just happy. It feels like home.

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Speaker 8: We're right down the road, and I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 8: seeing our fans come here and do a great job

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Speaker 8: for us.

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Speaker 5: One of the events you always talked about is the

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Speaker 5: Rodeo Bowl. How cool was that to just watch your

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Speaker 5: guys in Oklahoma state as well in the Rodeo Bowl.

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Speaker 7: It was awesome.

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Speaker 8: I know we got to recruit more cowboys to tell

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Speaker 8: you that, but to see our guys competing and have fun,

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Speaker 8: that's what it's all about. So I know they had

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Speaker 8: the percentage of who wins the rodeo usually wins the game,

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Speaker 8: So we got to play the game and figure.

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Speaker 7: Out how true it is.

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Speaker 4: That's I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that that was that's a trend.

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Speaker 2: That's been a trend lately.

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Speaker 8: True the year we were here before. When we want it, yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, so we'll see. We'll play the game absolutely well.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate it. The

723
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Speaker 2: best of luck.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, guys. Appreciate it all right. Elijah robertson

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Speaker 1: joining us. He's the head coach, the interim head coach

726
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Speaker 1: of Texas A and M as. The Aggies will take

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Speaker 1: on Oklahoma State Taxak Texas Bowl eight o'clock live right here, yeah,

728
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Speaker 1: right here, and you're gonna be down the air with

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Speaker 1: it after two hours of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 2: Do you want up radio lately?

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Speaker 5: John Yeah, I know the next two days. I told

732
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Speaker 5: my wife he was in from l A. And she

733
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 5: just said, hey, so can we like plan some stuff

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Speaker 5: the next couple of days.

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Speaker 2: I said, nope, nope, nope, no little, not at all.

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Speaker 1: Well, this business is all about working during the holidays, right,

737
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean we had a Texans Monday on Christmas Day.

738
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Speaker 2: I mean that's just how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely Okay, So we mentioned getting CJ back, as the

740
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Speaker 1: reports indicate CJ should be good to go, but let's

741
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Speaker 1: just hope for the best. We'll hear from the horse's

742
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: mouth maybe tomorrow is Demiko rants Well, tell us I

743
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna do with the media, but

744
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Speaker 1: we'll find out soon enough. But Johnny, you tell me

745
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Speaker 1: the report dropped today Kareem Jackson back with the Houston Texans.

746
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Speaker 2: I love it for so many different reasons.

747
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Speaker 1: He played with the Mico for two years in twenty

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Speaker 1: ten and twenty eleven, and he's back.

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Speaker 2: And I know that.

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Speaker 1: He was probably eager to play in the game against

751
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Speaker 1: Houston as a Denver Bronco, but he suspended at the time.

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Speaker 2: They let him go.

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Speaker 1: Texans pick him up, and he's back, and it is

754
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Speaker 1: going to be much needed because Jimmy Ward got hurt

755
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: in the game again and reportedly on IR I don't

756
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: know if the Texans released that, but that's a huge

757
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: move right there, because you were in that game against

758
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland for the bulk of it, playing two safeties that

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00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: weren't with the team when the season began. You were

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Speaker 1: playing two defensive ends that weren't with the team when

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Speaker 1: the season began. You were already without Blake Cashman. They

762
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: were so banged up on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Never mind what's happening at quarterback and no Tank del

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Speaker 1: for a few weeks obviously.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think with Kareem coming back, you know,

766
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 5: it's hard to have expectations of all he's gonna what's

767
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 5: he gonna bring well. I I just Kareem himself, just

768
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Speaker 5: his story. If you think about, you know, young guys

769
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Speaker 5: that have struggled, you know, Kareem can walk in and go, hey,

770
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Speaker 5: young buck, let me tell you about twenty ten. Yeah,

771
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Speaker 5: and then how it got turned around at twenty eleven.

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00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 5: Let me let me tell you about those years. And

773
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Speaker 5: he could share that with with these young guys. And look,

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Speaker 5: I I you know, Jimmy going out of the game

775
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 5: the other day was was big, you know, And I

776
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: think one of the things that's gotta happen.

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Speaker 3: For this defense.

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Speaker 5: I'll just flat out saying, I mean, Jalen Petrie's got

779
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Speaker 5: to get his game back where it was. I think

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Speaker 5: he's his confidence maybe shaking a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 5: he didn't play a lot in that especially probably mid

782
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Speaker 5: second quarter on. And so Kareem comes in, especially with

783
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Speaker 5: Jimmy going down. I mean, Jimmy is just such a

784
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 5: He's such an integral part of the emotion of the team,

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00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 5: of giving that team juice and energy. And I in

786
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: Week three when we played the Jags, that was Jimmy's

787
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 5: first game back, and so after the game was over,

788
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 5: I asked for him in the locker room yeah, because

789
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Speaker 5: I just got the sense that they played with a

790
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 5: much much more fervor because Jimmy's back there. He can

791
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 5: organize everybody, he can challenge guys. He's the guy that

792
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 5: gets everybody going in the huddle. And he kind of

793
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 5: looked at me, and then I said, I asked for you,

794
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: because when I said, you know your player a game,

795
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 5: and he kind of looked at me, and I said,

796
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 5: I asked for you. And I said, here's why Jimmy

797
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 5: meant that much to the organization. It was just not

798
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 5: it's not able to stay healthy. Yeah, And I think

799
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 5: in games, when you look back at when Jimmy was

800
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: not in the lineup, you could see that it was

801
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Speaker 5: it was a struggle without him.

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Speaker 2: Is Kareem like that?

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Speaker 1: I know he's not Jimmy Ward, He's different, but how

804
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: similar is he in the way to get everybody fired up, organized, whatever?

805
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Speaker 2: Or is he different?

806
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: Is he more of a different kind of safety, different

807
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: kind of addition in the contribution he's going to make

808
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: to this team.

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Speaker 5: I think I think Kareem is not as vocal. I

810
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 5: think Kareem is more watch me do this and let's

811
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 5: get going now. Kareem gets fired up and gets people

812
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 5: fired up. I remember we went to Denver in eight

813
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 5: and he hit Philip Lindsay on the sideline about ten

814
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 5: yards away from me, and you just saw the entire

815
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 5: sideline like, yes, Like he gives you that that juice

816
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: to me, the way he plays that Yes, And I

817
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 5: think that's absolutely one of the main reasons why Kareem

818
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Speaker 5: ends up being here.

819
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Speaker 2: So what he's got left in the tank?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'd like to think that he's, you know,

821
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 5: after the suspensions, that he's got a little bit more

822
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: than he thought he might have at this point. Learn

823
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 5: a defense, learn what it needs to be. Let's get

824
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 5: all on the same page. One of the things that

825
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 5: stood out to me, and I actually talked about this

826
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Speaker 5: with Admas Balane today, one of the things that stood

827
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 5: out to me from what Demico had said in his

828
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 5: press conference. He talked about blown coverages, and I just thought, man,

829
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 5: we cannot be in that spot in week sixteen have

830
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 5: him blown coverages in the back end.

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Speaker 2: We just can't.

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Speaker 5: And when Kareem give, you know, him coming in, how

833
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 5: much of his defense he knows, We'll see.

834
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 2: But my guess is he's seen.

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Speaker 5: A little bit of everything. You know, I've said this

836
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 5: to you long time. Kareem should have been playing safety

837
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 5: a long long time ago. You've said years, but and

838
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 5: I think he would have been a great safety, And

839
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 5: I still think he's got something left.

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Speaker 1: They can never find a way for him to do

841
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: it because corner needed him every time that group, every

842
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: time you felt like safety was gonna be his spot,

843
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, you've got depth that corner.

844
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 5: Then a couple of corners would go down. They're like, uh, Kareem,

845
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 5: we need you over at corner man. And then you

846
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 5: go over there, and he played really well. But I

847
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 5: think it's safety, that's his natural position. He brings obviously

848
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 5: a physical element, and I think that's gonna end up

849
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 5: being something this defense can over the next couple of

850
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 5: games against division opponents. That's something that you want to

851
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: drop the hammer and you want to bring it. Kareem

852
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 5: Jackson's that guy. So that's gonna be good. And you

853
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: had him in there with DHC, you had him in

854
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 5: there with Adrian Amos. Everybody gets more comfortable playing next

855
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 5: to one another and you rock on.

856
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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot more coming up here from the

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Speaker 1: Ta Tak Texas Bowl reception prior to the game, which

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Speaker 1: is Wednesday night eight at NRG Stadium. Some more guests,

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00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: also some reflection on what went down on Sunday, but really,

861
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Speaker 1: more importantly what needs to happen this coming Sunday against

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans at NRG noon.

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Speaker 4: As the Texans played the.

864
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: Sequel of the movie we saw about ten days ago

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Speaker 1: when they knocked off Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: So let's discuss. It's Texans Radio.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, welcome back.

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Speaker 5: It's Texans All Access from the chairman's reception at the

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Speaker 5: Grove Tomorrow night, tax at Texas Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State taken.

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Speaker 7: On A and M.

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Speaker 5: We had Mike Gundhy on a little bit earlier head

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Speaker 5: coach at Oklahoma State, we had interim head coach Elijah Robinson.

874
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: That's gotta be a tricky one for Elijah.

875
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 5: The fact that he's got he's going up to Syracuse

876
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 5: to be defensive coordinator up there. But during the day

877
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 5: he's handling A and M stuff, So I'm sure he's

878
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 5: not gotten a lot of sleep. But A and M

879
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 5: Oklahoma State tomorrow night one big piece of news as

880
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: that as bertains to this game tomorrow night, Ali Gordon,

881
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 5: who we talked about with Mike Gundhy a little bit earlier.

882
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 5: Ali Gordon will be apparently playing. He's coming back. He

883
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 5: did go into the portal, and I said this early

884
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: on Sports Radio six ten today.

885
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: I think it's smart for guy to go into the portal.

886
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: Just go in there.

887
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 5: You can listen to offers, you can listen to whatever

888
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 5: you need to listen to.

889
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: And Oli Gordon was able to.

890
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: Listen and figure out, you know what, I'm going back

891
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 5: to Oklahoma State year three, go back to Oklahoma State.

892
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: He's Doak Walker Award winner.

893
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 5: Oklahoma State has had a few really great running backs

894
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 5: in their time, and Ali Gordon is definitely one of those.

895
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 5: And I thought my Gundy's explanation of Ali Gordon was

896
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 5: pretty interesting because it's the same one I've had.

897
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: He's all arms and legs.

898
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 5: He's like six one and a half six two, long arms,

899
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 5: long legs, and before you know it, he's running through

900
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 5: block he's run through tackles, he's running away from guys.

901
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 5: I saw him live here against University of Houston. He

902
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 5: was really really impressive. He was great at Ulis Trinity

903
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 5: High School. So looking forward to seeing Ali Gordon tomorrow.

904
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 5: A little bit of Texans news. As we talked about

905
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 5: a little bit, there are rumors, if you want to say,

906
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 5: as such, CJ. Stroud looking as if he will play

907
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 5: on Sunday against the Tennessee Titans. And I just from

908
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 5: a standpoint of wanting to see seed J. Stroud play

909
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 5: football again, I'm excited. I mean absolutely truly pumped. We

910
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: know what CJ brings to the offense and stepping back

911
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 5: in giving the Titans a different look than what they

912
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 5: saw in week fifteen, just two weeks ago. I mean,

913
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 5: he's nine days ago. I think we played him. So

914
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: it's gonna be interesting to see what CJ is able

915
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 5: to bring to the offense against the Titans.

916
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: So that's one piece of news.

917
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 5: The other piece of news, if you missed it, Kareem

918
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 5: Jackson was added via waivers to the Texans roster. Now

919
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 5: you had Kareem was suspended with the Denver Broncos. He

920
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 5: suspension ended in this recent game against the Patriots, he

921
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 5: was made inactive. They then let him go and as

922
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 5: a result, after the trade deadline, your subject to waivers. Well,

923
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: the corresponding move, unfortunately, is that Jimmy Ward is going

924
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 5: to ir Texans announced that probably about I don't know,

925
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 5: four four thirty this afternoon. So Jimmy Ward is going

926
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 5: to IR and you've got Kareem Jackson being added to

927
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 5: the fifty three man roster. So you had a safety

928
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: group when we started the year of Jalen Petrie, Jimmy Ward,

929
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 5: M J.

930
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: Stewart, and Eric Murray.

931
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 5: Your safety group is completely and totally different at this point.

932
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 5: Now it's Jalen Peatrie, Kareem Jackson, DHC, and Adrian Adrian Amos.

933
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 5: So your safety position has definitely changed the last few

934
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 5: weeks in particular. But unfortunately Jimmy Ward is going on IR.

935
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 5: His season is over with two games left, not able

936
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 5: to come back. So I hate that because I think

937
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 5: Jimmy brings a lot a lot to this Texans defense

938
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 5: just with his attitude, just with his fire, with his energy,

939
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 5: and I think that's something that Demiko Ryans definitely wanted

940
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 5: to have on that defense and that's why he was

941
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 5: signed here from the forty nine ers where he played

942
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 5: for Demiko. He did some great things, not only in safety.

943
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 5: But I can't remember which game it was one of

944
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 5: the games at home where Jimmy dropped down he played

945
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 5: the Nickel, and that's something that you were able to

946
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 5: get from Jimmy Ward. Don't know if you'll get all

947
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: that from Kareem Jackson, but your cream's just got to

948
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 5: get up the speed fast with a defense he's got.

949
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 5: He's gotta learn the rules of playing whatever coverage you're

950
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 5: playing and then get on a field and impact this

951
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 5: defense in any way possible. Obviously, after what happened against

952
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns, anything that Kareem Jackson brings to it

953
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 5: is going to be a positive, an absolute positive. The

954
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 5: Browns were as good as I've seen and that's something

955
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 5: we'll talk about with Mark here when he gets back.

956
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 5: He's he's over there, you know, shaking hands and kissing

957
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 5: babies and doing some things here at the chairman's reception

958
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 5: at the Grove downtown getting ready for tax at Texas

959
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 5: Bowl tomorrow night, Oklahoma State in the Big Twelve taking

960
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 5: on Texas. A and M from the SEC. She used

961
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 5: to be a rivalry in the Big Twelve, and now

962
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 5: it changes and becomes a rivalry at ball time. A

963
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 5: and M taken on Oklahoma State. So we got a

964
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 5: going on Sunday game at noon. Over the next seventy

965
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: two hours ish. They're repainting the field, getting it ready

966
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 5: for the Bowl game on Wednesday night, and that game

967
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 5: is at eight o'clock, so that thing's not ending until

968
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 5: midnight at least. You're probably not getting everybody out of

969
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 5: there until midnight, twelve thirty somewhere around that time. Then

970
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: you got to flip the stadium and get it ready

971
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: for Sunday as you take on the Tennessee Titans. It'll

972
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: be the first game back at Energy Stadium for Kareem Jackson.

973
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 5: It'll be the first game back at Energy Stadium since

974
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen, the Buffalo Bills playoff game for DeAndre Hopkins

975
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 5: playing obviously for the Tennessee Titans. That you know, we've

976
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 5: played Hop before. We played Hop in Arizona. We played

977
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 5: hop the other day up at Tennessee. But to see

978
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 5: him at Energy Stadium is going to be a little

979
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 5: bit different, you know, back in his old home. So

980
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 5: I don't want to wish him luck, but I kind

981
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 5: of wish him luck. I just wanted to stay healthy,

982
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 5: of course. But games last night talked about us a

983
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 5: little bit. Today with Adams Plane on ten to two,

984
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 5: we run into Loupe. We replaced Landry and John for

985
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 5: a day and that was really fun. The games on

986
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 5: Christmas Day a lot being being what's the right way

987
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 5: of saying this, there was a lot on earth from

988
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 5: Monday's games in the NFL, you had three games Monday.

989
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 5: You first had the Raiders taking on the Chiefs. Raiders

990
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 5: beat the Chiefs twenty to fourteen in a game in

991
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 5: which the Raiders did.

992
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely zero offensively.

993
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 5: They did zero eight and O'Connell threw for sixty two yards.

994
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 5: He had a QBR of twelve point one nine of

995
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 5: twenty one with sacks built in, it was a passing

996
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 5: total of forty eight yards. Now, Zamir White ran the

997
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 5: ball and ran the ball very well. They did not

998
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 5: have Josh Jacobs, so Zamir White ran for one hundred

999
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 5: and forty five yards and the Raiders came away with

1000
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 5: the win over the Chiefs. Now, what that does is

1001
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 5: it makes the AFC West still in flood. Now you

1002
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 5: still think, Okay, Kansas City's just got to win one

1003
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 5: of the final two games of the Bengals and Chargers,

1004
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 5: but they've at least made it interesting for a Chiefs

1005
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 5: team that to me is just broken, absolutely broken. The

1006
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 5: Sunday night game against the Packers. There's a lot of

1007
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 5: crying about referees. The next week, Kadarius Tony was off

1008
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 5: side on one of the greatest touchdown plays we've ever seen.

1009
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 5: And the Chiefs have not been right since you have

1010
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 5: to beat the Patriots, but everybody's beat the Patriots other

1011
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 5: than the Broncos, and the Chiefs aren't right, and right

1012
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: now they're gonna have to go on the road more

1013
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 5: than likely after their first round playoff game. I would

1014
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 5: love to see the Raiders win out because one of

1015
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 5: those wins will be against the Colts, and the Chiefs

1016
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 5: lose out and see what happens. But I don't think

1017
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 5: that's gonna happen. You had the Giants and the Eagles,

1018
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 5: Eagles fans losing your minds wanting the Eagles to run

1019
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 5: the ball. The Eagles finally did run the ball and

1020
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 5: it paid off. DeAndre Swift a big game for the Eagles,

1021
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 5: ran for ninety two yards in a touchdown, ninety two

1022
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 5: yards on twenty carries. Jalen Hurst did throw for three

1023
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 5: hundred and one yards, but again, not like the Chiefs,

1024
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 5: per se because the Eagles are finding ways to win,

1025
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 5: but they're just it feels like the Eagles aren't quite broken,

1026
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 5: but they need to be put back together before the playoffs.

1027
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 6: A J.

1028
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 5: Brown eighty yards receiving Eagles got to win thirty three

1029
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: to twenty five. Tommy DeVito expiration date has hit. In fact,

1030
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 5: expiration date has hit for a number of quarterbacks in

1031
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 5: this particular league. Tommy DeVito's expiration date hit and probably

1032
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 5: a few others as well. In that game, thirty three

1033
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 5: twenty five and the nightcap a big one for the

1034
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 5: Baltimore Ravens and not a good one for Mike Flores

1035
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 5: or Mike Florio. Mike Flores, as Lamar Jackson called him,

1036
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 5: thirty three to nineteen, a crushing defeat for the San

1037
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 5: Francisco forty nine ers. Everybody healthy for the most part

1038
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 5: for the Niners, and the Ravens stuck it to him. Defensively,

1039
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 5: they got all over brock Purty. Offensively, they did a

1040
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 5: lot of what they wanted to do. Lamar threw for

1041
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 5: two touchdowns, ran for forty five z eight. Flowers has

1042
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: turned out to be one of the best players we've

1043
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 5: seen this year, and we saw him in Week one.

1044
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 5: Nine catches for seventy two yards in a touchdown, Mark

1045
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 5: we had three games on Monday, between the Chiefs and

1046
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 5: the Raiders, the Eagles and the Giants, and the Niners

1047
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 5: in the Ravens. What's the biggest thing that stood on

1048
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 5: Christmas Day?

1049
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna tell you Christmas even Christmas Day.

1050
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: It wasn't a sweep, but home teams who needed to

1051
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: play really well didn't for the most part. The Dolphins

1052
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: obviously played well enough to beat the Dallas Cowboys.

1053
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: But when you look at what happened to the.

1054
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs, what happened to the Houston Texans, what happened to

1055
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers. I look up and

1056
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: down the NFL schedule and the home teams on Christmas

1057
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: even Christmas Day, Johnny. My theory is this, there is

1058
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve distraction, Christmas Day distraction because players are at.

1059
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: Home, you got family coming in.

1060
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: No matter what the situation is, you're doing things you

1061
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: don't normally do. It's not an excuse, but it's an

1062
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: interesting theory that I have, at least interesting to me.

1063
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 4: But the other thing is this the Chiefs, I couldn't

1064
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: believe it.

1065
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: At some point they were gonna wake up right and

1066
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: become the Chiefs again, and in all these losses I've

1067
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: seen them participate in this year, it just doesn't happen.

1068
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: It looks so different right now.

1069
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 7: They're broke.

1070
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: They're broken, yeahes Mahomes doesn't look quite the same. I

1071
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: love the Yoko Ono Taylor Swift stuff, I mean, I

1072
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: just love that. I love that pop culture dynamic. Here

1073
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey not looking as good. I mean, and it's

1074
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: so weird because you see all the commercials they're in

1075
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: while you're watching them look bad, and it's a weird feeling.

1076
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 5: Here's my theory. Here's my theory. Sunday Night lost to

1077
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: Green Bay. That's when I looked. It started against the

1078
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 5: Eagles on Monday night. The Eagles came back and beat

1079
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 5: them on Monday Night. Okay, it's the Eagles.

1080
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: Get it. The Sunday night following that.

1081
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 5: Game, they lost to the Packers and there was a

1082
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 5: lot of crying and complaining about officials. And that's when

1083
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 5: I felt like, hmm, this is interesting.

1084
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1085
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 5: The next week was the Bills and Kadarius Tony is

1086
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 5: offside by six inches. They have not recovered from those

1087
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 5: two games. They've not they realized what got away from them.

1088
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 5: In those two games, and they realized they're not the

1089
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 5: offense second just well, that's fine, we'll just we'll score

1090
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 5: because we got Tarrek and we've got they They realize

1091
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 5: they don't have that offense. And because they don't have

1092
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 5: that offense there, they know that scoring is at a premium.

1093
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 5: And because of that, they've not found themselves playing perfect football.

1094
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: And I think those those two games broke them.

1095
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 5: The Packers game it started them on a path of like,

1096
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 5: oh boy, they got the Bills the next week, we'll

1097
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 5: see if they get it right. When Mahomes flipped out

1098
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 5: on that Cadarius Tony call, that's when I realized, Oh,

1099
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 5: they're in trouble.

1100
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: They're in trouble.

1101
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 5: I'm not expecting everybody to be all happy with a

1102
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 5: bad call or a very particular call, but that was

1103
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 5: unbecoming of them.

1104
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: That was weird.

1105
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 5: That was kind of odd, Like, wait a second, there's

1106
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 5: a lot of crying about the officials a week before.

1107
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 5: Now they're crying about it again. Oh, I don't know, man,

1108
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 5: this does not look good. And the Patriots, the Patriots

1109
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 5: game just glossed over all those issues. Patriots aren't good

1110
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 5: enough to beat the Chiefs. But then you saw it again.

1111
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 5: They're getting cute. They get cute in the backfield with

1112
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 5: all that action and Mahomes is trying to take a

1113
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 5: snap of it. They fumble the little Nichols picks it up, touchdown.

1114
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 5: Then Mahomes throwing off his back foot fading away, Jack

1115
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 5: Jones picks it touchdown.

1116
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: Two defensive touchdowns. They get beat.

1117
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 5: That's a broken team right now, and I'm not totally

1118
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,959
Speaker 5: sure that they get it back. And now they're gonna

1119
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 5: have to go on the road at least in the

1120
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 5: divisional round. They'd have to go on the run if

1121
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 5: they get there. If they get there, the defense has

1122
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 5: played well enough this year. That offense has let them

1123
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 5: down in so many ways. That team, that team is

1124
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: broken to me.

1125
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: They have a defense that's better than a lot of

1126
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: defenses they've had in recent years, but they just can't

1127
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: score points the way they have all right, next up,

1128
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: let's do this.

1129
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 4: You mentioned the Chiefs who just beat them.

1130
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: The Raiders, and we need the Raiders to come through

1131
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: this weekend. Can they do it? And we got to

1132
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: get into the Texans Titans. And we have gotten Dante

1133
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: to agree. Actually he hasn't agreed yet, but he will

1134
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: so be the air with us as well. Tan Pastorini,

1135
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: it's coming up here Texans Radio. What a fun show

1136
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: we're having here at the Chairman's Reception for the Taxak

1137
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: Texas Bowl, which is Wednesday night at RG Stadium, eight o'clock.

1138
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: Kick Texas A and M Oklahoma State. We had coach

1139
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: Mike Gundy on the show. Nice visit with him. Elijah

1140
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: Robinson interim for the Texas A and M squad. I

1141
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: don't say Texas A and m Aggi's because that's illegals.

1142
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: It's the Texas Aggis. I will stand by it, and

1143
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: it's incorrect to say Texas A and m Aggis say

1144
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: my Aggie Purist friends.

1145
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: But I've got another friend and.

1146
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 4: His name is Dante. Dan Pastorini joining us right now.

1147
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: My only other friend actually, and Dan, it's great to

1148
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: see you once again here at the reception. You are

1149
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: a Texas grid Iron legend. You were inducted in the

1150
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: class years ago.

1151
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 7: Years ago.

1152
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, when they I think when they first started. But no,

1153
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 9: it's it's great to be here. It's good to see

1154
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 9: everybody and see you, and it's you know, talk about

1155
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 9: old stories and having some good food.

1156
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: Well, we could talk some old story, is it. We will,

1157
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: but I want to talk about concussions because you're vaguely

1158
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: familiar with this phenomenon because.

1159
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 9: Of concussions, because of concussions.

1160
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: But they're doing the right thing to do better things now,

1161
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: right absolutely. I mean, I just give us a little

1162
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: example of what it might be like and what happened

1163
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: to you and others, because you guys, the diagnosis process

1164
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: wasn't exactly state of the yar now compared to today.

1165
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 9: No, you know, and when you got your bell rung

1166
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 9: and if you didn't get right back in there, you

1167
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 9: were kind of a woos So your manhood was always

1168
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 9: challenged by your teammates. But you know, I think the

1169
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 9: protocol is I don't know what the exact protocol is,

1170
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 9: but whatever they're doing to delay a player to play

1171
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 9: until he's ready to play. I saw when CJ got

1172
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 9: hit and how his head hit the ground. I said, man,

1173
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 9: that's not good. And you know he's been held out

1174
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 9: for a couple of games. I think that's good. This

1175
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 9: kid is special. And I've said this from day one.

1176
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 9: I like him. I like his leadership, I like his

1177
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 9: quality of life. Is how he loves his life and

1178
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 9: how he leads on the field, but what he does

1179
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 9: as a player, the guy's got the best release I've

1180
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 9: ever seen any quarterback. And I've been around a while

1181
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 9: since I played, since I was my stars before me

1182
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 9: that I was in awe of growing up. This kid's

1183
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 9: special and he's a once in a decade or once

1184
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 9: in a millennium player, and he will be in the

1185
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame. I guarantee you pending he stays healthy.

1186
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 9: But you know, right now, it's kind of tough to

1187
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 9: go out there and play. And it's frustrating to see

1188
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 9: the Texans lose a game last week and you felt

1189
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 9: that they should have won, but they got a lot

1190
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 9: of injuries, and unfortunately this game is very violent and

1191
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 9: you still have the injuries. And that's what kind of

1192
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 9: concerns me about. They need to get the protection up

1193
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 9: front to keep this kid on his feet, and you keep.

1194
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: Him there, you're going to have a lot of great years.

1195
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 9: And I think that the Texans are going to have

1196
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 9: great years from here on if they don't.

1197
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't get hurt like they all right.

1198
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 9: We'll get some depth, get some depth and take care

1199
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 9: of that guy.

1200
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: I want to ask you something about the release, though

1201
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: one second you mentioned the release and how good it is.

1202
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: Can you describe why.

1203
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: You think it's so good because I have trouble verbalizing it.

1204
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 9: It just comes out so effortlessly at the ball, there's

1205
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 9: no wasted motion. I mean from his feet to his shoulder,

1206
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 9: to his hands to his hips, everywhere everything is in.

1207
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 9: It's like poetry in motion. That's the most fluid throwing

1208
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 9: motion I've ever seen.

1209
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 2: Wow, there must be.

1210
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 5: Something about Californians playing a quarterback in the city of Houston.

1211
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's worked out. It worked out with you, hopefully.

1212
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 3: Works out with number seven is a good number.

1213
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: That is a good number.

1214
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, thank God to Kymie Fairbarn for giving

1215
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 5: it up to make sure that he gave that to CJ.

1216
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 5: At that point, you've been through that process, You've been

1217
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 5: a rookie, and seeing his success as a rookie was

1218
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 5: that shocking because you know what rookies go through. You

1219
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 5: know that process of oh my gosh, I'm in the NFL,

1220
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 5: I'm seeing NFL defenses. There aren't a lot of rookies

1221
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 5: that succeed at the level that CJ's succeeding was it

1222
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 5: surprising to see him have this type of success. I know,

1223
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 5: obviously the concussions lately, I get that, But before the injury,

1224
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 5: was it surprising to see the success he was having

1225
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 5: as a young quarterback because it felt like everybody was

1226
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 5: just playing. He was playing at such a high level

1227
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 5: from everybody else, like you'd have thought they were all

1228
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 5: rookies and he was the veteran. Is it surprising that

1229
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 5: he's had the success he's had as a rookie?

1230
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 9: In a way yes, and in a way no. Again,

1231
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 9: I go back to his leadership and his wanting to play,

1232
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 9: his will to play, and his desire to play, and

1233
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 9: you know, the way he practices. I've never I haven't

1234
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 9: been over to any practice that I'd love to go

1235
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 9: over there sometime and watch, But you know, I just

1236
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 9: see the kid play. But the leadership qualities, and plus

1237
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 9: the fact that the type of football they're playing in

1238
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 9: the college level now is very similar to what they

1239
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 9: carry over to the pros. The pros, the old pros

1240
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 9: have learned a lot from the college game because a

1241
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 9: lot of the college coaches go back and pro coaches

1242
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 9: go back and coach college and vice versa. But it's

1243
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 9: an easier transition for him because they were more similar

1244
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 9: to the systems that they were growing up with.

1245
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: The defenses they see are not going to change that much.

1246
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 9: You can only cover so many areas of the field,

1247
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 9: and the difference is the quality of players at each position. Now,

1248
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 9: all of a sudden, that window of opportunity shrinks. You know,

1249
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 9: in high school it's about like this, and college is

1250
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 9: like this. Well, and the pros it's like this, and

1251
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 9: you better anticipate. And he's just got that vision, that

1252
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 9: third eye that enables that anticipation, and the mind takes

1253
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 9: over the arm and the ball follows through it, and

1254
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 9: it's just it's poetry to watch. I mean, for crying

1255
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 9: out loud, the guy was leading the league. And there's

1256
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 9: a lot of pros out there that have been around

1257
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 9: for ten fifteen years. They can't keep up with this kid,

1258
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 9: and he's kind of showing he's teaching them all, Hey,

1259
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 9: this is my.

1260
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 3: Way of playing.

1261
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 9: You're going to see a lot of changes in the

1262
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 9: game because of him.

1263
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 1: Wow, Dan Pastoridi joining us, he's a Texas Gridiron legend.

1264
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: We're at the chairman's reception for.

1265
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: The Taxak Texas Bowl, which is tomorrow eight o'clock, Texas

1266
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: A and M and Oklahoma State Coaching Matters Tamiko Ryans,

1267
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: what is your observation on what impact he's had on

1268
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: this whole thing.

1269
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 9: I was excited when they announced him the head coach.

1270
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 9: I said, this is going to be a big change.

1271
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 9: And he was a player. He's young enough to relate

1272
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 9: to the players. Now, you know, you don't have some

1273
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 9: old guys standing up like me standing up and telling

1274
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 9: these guys how it used to be in the old days.

1275
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 9: This guy transitions from the game and goes right into coaching,

1276
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 9: and now he's a head coach, and you know, young

1277
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 9: head coach.

1278
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 3: And I liked his play. I like his philosophy.

1279
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 9: I like the way he leads his team, and I

1280
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 9: like how he encourages and he teaches. And he's got

1281
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 9: that teaching ability to not only make him a greater player,

1282
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 9: but make him a better man. And that's important. That's

1283
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 9: the quality of that he brings. And there's a lot

1284
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 9: of pride going around the city now. And I see,

1285
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 9: you know, we were here when it was a very

1286
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 9: proud time back in the lovy blue days, and I

1287
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 9: see that same infection going through the city and it's

1288
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 9: a nice it's a nice feeling, and it's a nice

1289
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 9: thing to see, and I'm anxious to see how it

1290
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 9: comes how it comes out.

1291
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 3: I hope I'm around long enough.

1292
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 5: Dan Texans into playoff race now. The last three years

1293
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 5: we have not been that's been clear. How important is

1294
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 5: it for a team that's still relatively young, A lot

1295
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 5: of rookies that have played.

1296
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: A lot for the Texans this year?

1297
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 5: How important is it for them to just get in

1298
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 5: the playoffs and even playing in the playoffs, But these

1299
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 5: next two games are absolutely massive, They're almost like playoff games.

1300
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 5: But how big a deal is it for them to

1301
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 5: get into playoffs to help them for future years?

1302
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 2: Hey, we've been there, We've done this.

1303
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 5: How much did it help you when you guys first

1304
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 5: got into playoffs? To help you guys in successive years?

1305
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 9: Well, we were not expect to make the playoffs, and

1306
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 9: then we we just when we finally made the playoffs,

1307
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 9: it was like, Okay, we're here. Now, let's let's focus

1308
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 9: and let's show them what we can do. And you

1309
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 9: take a whole different attitude, You take a whole different

1310
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 9: attitude of belonging. You don't you don't feel like Okay,

1311
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 9: we just squeaked in because we're a wildcard team. We

1312
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 9: made the playoffs, we survived the season, we survived injuries.

1313
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 9: We still had to play through injuries.

1314
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1315
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 9: And it's just it's a growing process. But it's something

1316
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 9: you you learn to get used to. And they're getting

1317
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 9: used to that winning attitude now. And that's if you

1318
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 9: make the playoffs, it's a different it's a different season,

1319
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 9: you know, and they they have. If you make it,

1320
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 9: that's great, it's a great building block. And I think

1321
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 9: if they do, fine, but if they don't, they're going

1322
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 9: to be all right. And they have everything stacked against

1323
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 9: them right now because of injuries. But if they can

1324
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 9: overcome that, and who knows what's going to happen in

1325
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 9: the next couple of weeks.

1326
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: If you get the quarterback back, anything's possible as well.

1327
00:58:59,080 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: Well.

1328
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: What was the like when when you did start to believe,

1329
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: because when you first made it the ramp up to

1330
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: actually making it that campaign. Can you take us through

1331
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: some of the feelings as you started to get some

1332
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: success in thinking, hey, this is all possible.

1333
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 9: Well, you know, it was always fascinating to see the pixtures,

1334
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 9: you know, pick you as a three point underdog or

1335
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 9: five point whatever it was.

1336
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: I how the hell do those guys figure that stuff out?

1337
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, we're out here drink again.

1338
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 9: They never see us practice, you know, How the hell

1339
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 9: do they know what I'm feeling and what I'm thinking?

1340
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 9: You know, But you know, it's funny how it works

1341
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 9: out that way. But you know, analytics are one thing,

1342
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 9: but you know, it's just an attitude. They've got to

1343
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 9: get that attitude. And once you develop it and you

1344
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 9: get the people around you believe in, you know, it's

1345
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 9: it's just takes flight. It's something that you can't put

1346
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 9: your finger on. But once they're getting a taste of it,

1347
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 9: the whole city's getting a taste of it again. But

1348
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 9: they're getting a taste of it, and this is something

1349
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 9: that's new to them. They've never been in this position before,

1350
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 9: and they're they'll be all right, you know, if they

1351
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 9: don't make it. I'm not I'm not concerned about that.

1352
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 9: I'm concerned about keeping CJ healthy, getting the players back

1353
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 9: that need to be back healthy, and then anything can

1354
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 9: happen in the next month or two. You know, you

1355
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 9: can still heal in that particular time. And if you

1356
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 9: got a few guys who can play wounded great, but

1357
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 9: you know you don't want to get any catastrophes.

1358
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 5: Dan, how important was it for your teams to have

1359
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 5: continuity from year to year? I know the NFL is

1360
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 5: different than you always hear. Well, the twenty two team

1361
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 5: is not what the twenty three team is, not what

1362
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 5: twenty four team is. But you can have this core

1363
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 5: that stays together for a certain number of years. How

1364
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 5: is that for you guys and just keeping your core together?

1365
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 5: And how important was it to have that continuity year

1366
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 5: after year after year.

1367
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 9: Well, unfortunately, you use a player's corps and the ownership

1368
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 9: and development of the coaching staff's corps are two different things.

1369
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 9: You know, we've made friends throughout our careers, guys that

1370
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 9: we played with for many many years, and then guys

1371
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 9: that went off and had to be traded and whatnot.

1372
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 9: You know, that's kind of out of control of the player,

1373
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 9: and that's more the control of the of the management

1374
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 9: and in the ownership. And the thing that you know

1375
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 9: broke my heart was leaving Houston, And you know that

1376
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 9: was just a long, long story. But you know, leaving

1377
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 9: here and leaving that team was you know, tough, and

1378
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 9: you know, even though you know, things didn't turn out

1379
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 9: for me, and they didn't really turn out for Houston either,

1380
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 9: and Bum was gone and it was all broken up.

1381
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 9: So it's it's a very fragile thing to keep all

1382
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 9: of those ingredients in the in the bowl. If you

1383
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 9: can keep that, if you can keep the management behind you,

1384
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 9: and you can keep the coaching staff behind you, and the players,

1385
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 9: it's great, but you can only play so many years

1386
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 9: and you got to make changes.

1387
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: We know your heart is here, but when you go

1388
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: to the Raiders, you go back to California.

1389
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 4: What was Al Davis like then to be around?

1390
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 9: This is a g rated show, right, Yeah, let's go

1391
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 9: on to the next.

1392
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 4: We don't want to talk about not a good Yeah,

1393
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 4: sorry about that.

1394
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: How bizarre was it? Maybe I should hesitate to ask

1395
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: this one too. I am very glad that the Titans

1396
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: do recognize the Oilers players.

1397
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 4: I am glad for that.

1398
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: I know it's a weird dynamic, But how bizarre.

1399
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: Was it to see the uniforms and see.

1400
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: The current Houston team playing those guys wearing those uniforms

1401
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: and I called them the fake Oilers because you know,

1402
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: I have some feeling about this myself. Actually it's very

1403
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: different from what you have. But I thought, well, these

1404
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: are the Houston guys and those aren't. And it just

1405
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: seems strange that the people in Nashville are thinking, well,

1406
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: what's going on here because we never had these So

1407
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: what was it like for you observing all that going down?

1408
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 3: Well, I kind of I knew it was gonna happen.

1409
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 9: I found out about it from Amy last year when

1410
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 9: we were there for the reunion. I thought it was

1411
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 9: nice that she reached out and brought us in for

1412
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 9: the reunion of the Tennessee Titans and the Houston Oilers,

1413
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 9: and it was kind of a good feeling to have

1414
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 9: some association with it with a team. Houston was our city.

1415
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 9: Houston is our city. I still live in the city,

1416
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 9: and I love Houston. I'll never leave Houston. When the

1417
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 9: Texans came in, it was a very bad taste in

1418
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 9: our mouths because they didn't want anything to do with us,

1419
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 9: and we didn't really have anything to do with them.

1420
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 9: But you know, we didn't have anything to do with

1421
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 9: Tennessee either, right, So we'd like to stay here. We'd

1422
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 9: like to keep it here. I mean, my I pulled

1423
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 9: for Houston. That was a game.

1424
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: I just kind of watched.

1425
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 9: I couldn't pull against my uniforms, but you know, I

1426
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 9: was still wanting. I want the Texans to win, but

1427
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 9: you know, they're they're It's it's one of those business

1428
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 9: deals that you look at you look back through the history.

1429
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 9: If they'd have given Bud Adams the stadium for three

1430
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 9: hundred and forty million dollars, we'd still be here and

1431
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 9: we didn't have this conversation. The Texans wouldn't be wouldn't

1432
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 9: be here either, So but instead he left and then

1433
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 9: the city had to do something. Lanier had to do something.

1434
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 9: So now he brings in the franchise, a new NFL

1435
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 9: franchise and.

1436
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 2: Ownership twice that ty.

1437
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,959
Speaker 9: It paid one point seventy five billion dollars to build

1438
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 9: a stadium, get a franchise, and get a team going,

1439
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 9: which I'm sure you ask cal about that.

1440
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: That's not a nice big nut to pay.

1441
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 9: But they could have just built the stadium and everybody

1442
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 9: would have been happy. That's that's the logistics, that's the

1443
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 9: finances of it, and that's the facts of it. Now

1444
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 9: it's their uniform, it's their team, it's their oilers, it

1445
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 9: belongs to them.

1446
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: The Adams family. They can do what they want, so

1447
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: we shouldn't.

1448
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 9: The best thing to do is to say, hey, we're

1449
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 9: glad we got our Texans here. Now let's go on

1450
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 9: from here. But everybody wants to fight change in ways.

1451
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1452
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 9: I'm just happy the city's got a great football team

1453
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 9: now are good. They will have a great football team,

1454
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 9: and they're building and they're they're showing a lot of

1455
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 9: class through the people they've hired, the players they've drafted,

1456
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 9: and how they play football.

1457
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 3: It's my kind of football. I enjoy it. Dan.

1458
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 5: When you're in and around the city for people that

1459
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 5: have gone through the Love You and Blue era, and

1460
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 5: you can you'll know who the most people are because

1461
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 5: they'll tell you, oh, I was here for love you Blue.

1462
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeap.

1463
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 5: When you run into those people that were here for

1464
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 5: love you Blue, what's the one thing they want to

1465
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 5: ask you about.

1466
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 2: Or talk to you about the most? What it was like?

1467
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: What it was like?

1468
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 9: And it's funny. I get it all the time, yea,

1469
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 9: every day of my life. Now, I'll go to the

1470
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 9: grocery store, I'll be out, somebody that'll come up and

1471
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 9: shake my hand. It'd be like sixty and they kill

1472
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 9: it by saying, you know, when I was nine years.

1473
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: Old, I watched you when I was a kid, you could.

1474
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 9: Have left that bar of yeah, you know, but it's

1475
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 9: really you can see the far away looking They're like

1476
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 9: the love you blue era will live on forever, and

1477
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 9: it was. It's nice to be part of history here

1478
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 9: in this town and that's something that can never take

1479
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 9: They can't take the memories away, and I'm.

1480
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: Grateful for that. Excuse me.

1481
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 9: But the thing is that the city is still hungry

1482
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 9: and football is the main sport in this town. No

1483
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 9: offense to the Astros too. I mean, the Astros are great.

1484
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 9: I love the Astros, but you know, no offense to

1485
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 9: the other teams. But football is king. Yeah, and they

1486
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 9: just want they want that. They're hungry for a good

1487
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 9: football team and they'll do anything for it. But it's

1488
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 9: nice that they remember, and I'm grateful that they absolutely.

1489
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 8: Well.

1490
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: One thing I'm really grateful about is, you know, I

1491
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: got here two thousand and two. I wasn't born here

1492
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: and got here as fast as I could, like you, yep,

1493
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: but I got here a little later.

1494
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 4: But well, we were both drafted. But to me, I'm

1495
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 4: a Texan.

1496
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: But you know, I really love doing those shows with

1497
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: you and Gift on John eleven and you coming on

1498
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: with me on Sports Radio six ten an hour a week.

1499
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 4: That was awesome.

1500
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: And eventually we get the bum Phillips influence with the

1501
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: Houston Texans because Wade comes in bum walks out of

1502
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: the tunnel when the Texans have their first ever playoff

1503
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: game and I could still feel the hair standing up

1504
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: on the back of my neck. I'm just thinking, there's

1505
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: no way we're losing this game. Today, You've walked out

1506
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: of that tunnel and you've been recognized as a Texas

1507
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: Gridiron legend and things like that. So I'm happy for

1508
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: that you pointed out that we can have some of

1509
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: that and who knows where it goes in the future,

1510
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: because you're right that love you blue stuff will live forever,

1511
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: no doubt.

1512
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was just a different time, a different place,

1513
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 9: in a different era.

1514
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Dan, Thanks so much for joining us. It's

1515
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: always so much.

1516
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: Fun, pleasure to be with you again, partner.

1517
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: This is the first interview I've ever done with you

1518
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: where I don't bring up Killer Fish, your hit movie.

1519
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta go there. I don't know why, Dan,

1520
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 5: you gotta go there. I mean, we were doing a

1521
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 5: great job. He David still got to go muck it up.

1522
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 9: I was still hoping I might have had a shot.

1523
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 9: I think I still got a shot. It's not gonna happen.

1524
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 7: I don't.

1525
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 4: I don't think kid's ever gonna have it.

1526
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: Dad, that's a lot, Dodey, Dad Pasta ready joining us

1527
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: on Texans Ready, all right, coming up, Like we promised,

1528
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: we're going to get into what we need the.

1529
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: Raiders to do. Yes, what we need the Raiders to do.

1530
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: We actually are Raiders fans this weekend for what one weekend?

1531
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: We need them to beat the Colts. And we've got

1532
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: to talk about the huge matchup at NRG with the

1533
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans invading the sequel of the blockbuster we saw

1534
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: about ten days ago. It is Texans Radio, all right.

1535
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: We have Dan Pastorini on the air, which I love.

1536
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: I love having Dante on Johnny. It's so good here

1537
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: at the Chairman's reception Taxak Texas Bowl. It is going

1538
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: to be tomorrow Texas A and M and Oklahoma State

1539
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: eight o'clock kick NRG Stadium. Some tickets remain at tech

1540
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: ticketmaster dot com. As this Bowl is historically the best

1541
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 1: drawing non New Year's Six Bowl, and it out draws

1542
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: some of the New Year Six as well. It does,

1543
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 1: but it is the best one by far. When you

1544
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: look at some of these Bowl audiences, audiences I call

1545
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: them audiences because the crowds are that small, these Bowl crowds.

1546
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 7: Ouch.

1547
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough for me, Johnny the first weekend some

1548
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: of those.

1549
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 3: Look.

1550
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to take anything away for I know

1551
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: the hard work that goes into operating any football program

1552
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: at any level. But when you look at some of

1553
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: the name recognition on the matchups, I'm thinking, all right,

1554
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: these are basically this would have been a one double

1555
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: A playoff game. Yeah, you know, ten years ago and

1556
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: now they're in a bowl game. Okay, is that really

1557
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: much better for your institution? I don't want to get

1558
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: into this debate, and I get it, you know, they're

1559
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: on nationalte television, but they would have been in a

1560
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: one double A playoff situation also, So I don't know

1561
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: what to say.

1562
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, wonda ble ait Playoffs's gonna be pretty sweet. It's

1563
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 5: gonna be very very sweet.

1564
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 4: Well, it's in progress, right, aren't we like deep into it?

1565
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 5: It's Montana and South Dakota State, and there were a

1566
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 5: couple of great playoff games.

1567
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean a couple of great playoff games. I mean,

1568
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: college football is at a really interesting point.

1569
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 5: I'm very curious to see when his coach Gunny kind

1570
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 5: of pointed out where it kind of goes.

1571
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: And I think the realization by.

1572
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 5: President Murphy. I believe he's president Charlie Murphy. I want

1573
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 5: to say, is the president of n Cuba or Charlie Baker.

1574
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: Maybe I just had a Chappelle Show flashback Charlie Murfy

1575
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: Charlie Murphy.

1576
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 2: Where it's going. I mean, I think they've got to

1577
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: handle that.

1578
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 5: Like I said earlier, I think it's gonna come a

1579
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 5: point where we're gonna get to the kind of premier

1580
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 5: league sort of thing with college football. Premier league's got

1581
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 5: twenty teams. I think there will be more, and I

1582
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 5: think they'll work it through the conferences. But I do

1583
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 5: think there's gonna come a point where there does become

1584
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,520
Speaker 5: an nil cap, you know, a you know, like ant,

1585
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 5: like a salary cap. There are gonna be a lot

1586
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 5: of things that you look at and go, that's like

1587
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 5: what the NFL does. I think what my Gunny talked

1588
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 5: about was the transparency of everything. So it's gonna be

1589
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 5: really interesting. I mean, I love ball games. I just

1590
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 5: haven't had a chance to watch many of them. But really,

1591
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 5: you know, with our season going on and what we've had,

1592
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 5: you know, happening, there's just there's news. We got radio

1593
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 5: all the time, and they just haven't had a chance

1594
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 5: to really kind of lock into some of these bowl games.

1595
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 5: You got Texas State playing Rice right now. Texas State

1596
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 5: is up thirty eight twenty one on into the fourth quarter,

1597
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 5: excuse me, third quarter.

1598
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: So Texas State is a great story, great story.

1599
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 5: Everybody talks about Colorado and all the transfers that Colorado had.

1600
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 5: Texas State had fifty transfers. Fifty got to a bowl

1601
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 5: game under GJ. Kenney, who is a Texas legend. His

1602
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 5: dad was a coaching legend. GJ was a great player

1603
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 5: in high school, went to Tulsa, has become a really

1604
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 5: good football coach, and he's great at Texas State. He

1605
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 5: has played the transfer portal very very well. I've talked

1606
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 5: a lot with Casey Keeler at the same Houston State

1607
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 5: about how do you handle the portal?

1608
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 2: How do you do all that? And there's a lot

1609
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 2: of really.

1610
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 5: Like interesting moving parts in college football, but they do

1611
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 5: need some transparency. But the balls, to me still can

1612
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 5: play a can play an important role in all of

1613
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 5: it as we go forward. But man, once we get

1614
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 5: to this twelve team playoff next year, oh boy, it's

1615
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 5: gonna be It's gonna be really exciting once you get

1616
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 5: twelve teams involved in it. And look, I love I

1617
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 5: love the four that we've got in this year, but

1618
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 5: I just the more playoff games. Just watching for all

1619
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 5: the years that have FCS playoff games and watching those

1620
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 5: games and how great those playoff games are.

1621
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, what if you had Oregon playing I

1622
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 2: don't Florida State this week in a playoff game? Yeah,

1623
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: I mean that.

1624
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: Would be incredible, incredible wait for that also, all right,

1625
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: I also can't wait for Sunday when the Texans take

1626
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 1: on the Tennessee Titans.

1627
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1628
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: So, if you get CJ back, we don't know who

1629
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 1: else is back, because I would like to get more

1630
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: back than him. He's the most important by far, but

1631
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: you have numerous other guys who are not on IR

1632
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: who we would love to see back in the lineup.

1633
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: But I got this feeling this is gonna be a

1634
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: really difficult test. They just gave the Seahawks all they

1635
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: can handle. And Seattle is a hard, charging, playoff pushing team, right,

1636
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: and they got another big one this week, and they're

1637
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: all big if you're going for the playoffs. Wait, who

1638
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 1: do they have? They got another AFC team? Who did

1639
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: the Seahawks have this week?

1640
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: Steelers? The Steelers.

1641
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 4: Yes, that's a huge game for both the monster game

1642
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 4: it is.

1643
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's were you staying on the

1644
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: air today, it's you did say double elimination?

1645
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 7: What did you say?

1646
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of a double elimination tournament though, That's how

1647
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: I feel. Yeah, And you already took a loss this

1648
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: past Sunday, Like you cannot take another loss and expect

1649
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: to get in.

1650
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 4: You'd need a ton of help to do it. And

1651
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 4: I just can't rely on that.

1652
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: Not in the AFC. The AFC, there's just so much

1653
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: going on.

1654
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 5: I mean, what if the Raiders win the next two

1655
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 5: games and are at nine and eight, they're right there,

1656
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 5: They're right in, They're right in a mix. And by

1657
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 5: the way, if the Chiefs keep stepping on themselves, maybe

1658
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 5: the Raiders knock out the Chiefs.

1659
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: Man, what a story that would be. I don't think

1660
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen. But the Chiefs just stren't playing good football.

1661
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 2: But you really, you know, we're playing around with the

1662
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 2: playoff machine.

1663
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 5: During a break, I said Adam, I said, just just

1664
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 5: humor me with this, and I read him every game

1665
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 5: for the next two weeks.

1666
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 2: I put it into the playoff machine.

1667
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 5: And we came up with two. We came up with

1668
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 5: two matchups. We came up with the Texans getting the

1669
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 5: seven seed, yeah, and going to Buffalo because Buffalo is

1670
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 5: the two seed. Buffalo would be the two seed in

1671
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 5: this scenario because Buffalo has got the Patriots in in Miami.

1672
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: It's not the ideal place to go. I'll sign up

1673
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: for it right now. Are you kidding any anyway?

1674
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 5: In let's That was kind of my point in asking

1675
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 5: Dan that is the playoff experience is so unique and

1676
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 5: so different. I'm I remember my my first playoff game

1677
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 5: was twenty fifteen, and I just remember being in the offices.

1678
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: With you guys. You're like, listen, this thing is gonna be.

1679
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 5: Because during eleven and twelve, I was doing my overnight show,

1680
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 5: so I didn get a chance to go to playoff games.

1681
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 2: And you're like this is a whole different animal, like

1682
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: get ready, ye it.

1683
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 5: Was for five seconds, right and yeah right, the Mile

1684
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 5: Davis of Houston decided to run one back in the

1685
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 5: whole game change.

1686
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: But it was so bad.

1687
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 5: But there's just a different level of intensity, a different

1688
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 5: level of everything involved that I'd like for this team

1689
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 5: to experience. And maybe it's not right now because of

1690
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 5: the injuries. Maybe it's not a team right now that

1691
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 5: you think can go win a championship.

1692
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: But you never know.

1693
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 5: I remember in ninety six, I was living in Jacksonville

1694
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 5: and they eke in, I mean, Mark, they gotta beat

1695
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 5: the Saints. On the last day. The Saints score a

1696
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 5: touchdown to make it twenty to nineteen.

1697
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 2: They go to kick the extra point in the miss it.

1698
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 5: They miss the extra point, and that's how the Shags

1699
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 5: got in the playoffs.

1700
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 2: Not that not that long game. That was a different game,

1701
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 2: the laterals and all that. So that happened to them

1702
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 2: and the lateral game. But Morten Anderson missed.

1703
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 5: It may have been the Falcons. It may have been

1704
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 5: the Falcons missed an extra point. The Jags win and

1705
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 5: get in. Now they had to win a bunch of

1706
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 5: games in a row. But they win a bunch of

1707
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 5: games in the row.

1708
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 2: They just eke in. They go to Buffalo, no shot,

1709
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: they're not beating Buffalo. They beat Buffalo on the road.

1710
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 5: Now they've got the number one seed. Broncos thirteen and three,

1711
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 5: dominant team all year. Woody Page is right and called

1712
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 5: them the jag Wads in the paper.

1713
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 2: Yep. They go to Denver.

1714
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 5: They beat Denver in Denver, so they've beaten. So my

1715
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 5: point in all that is, you just get in. You

1716
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 5: never know what happened, you never know, but you just

1717
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 5: need to get in to have that experience of playing

1718
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 5: that level of football. So when you do have your

1719
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 5: team that's healthy, you do have more of your pieces together,

1720
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 5: and you like, this is a championship team.

1721
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: You're not going through it for the first time. Well,

1722
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: you're not going through the experience of the first time.

1723
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: And what is a championship team really The coaches who say,

1724
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: and I know everybody eye rolls, it's seventeen one game seasons,

1725
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: they are dead right on that. It is seventeen one

1726
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: game season. We are the ultimate example of that. Last

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Speaker 1: week was a bad season, the week before was a

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Speaker 1: good season, and you just hope you have enough good

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Speaker 1: ones in order to get into the postseason and do

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Speaker 1: some damage there.

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Speaker 4: Look at the forty nine ers last night, and.

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Speaker 1: Everyone writing off the forty nine ers, Okay, go ahead

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Speaker 1: and do it, or everyone crowning the Ravens, right, go

1734
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: ahead and do it, because look at that game. You

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Speaker 1: get tipball pick, you get Lamar Jackson, make it some

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01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: incredible throws. There was that catch that was reviewed. I

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: forget who caught it, but they took an extra look

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01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: at it. Obviously the guy caught it, but just little

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01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: game of millimeters things going on, and if they go

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01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: the other way, it might be a completely different night.

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't. And give the Ravens credit.

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from them, but you can't

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01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: assume anything even based on.

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Speaker 2: That one last time.

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Speaker 5: And I think a great, a great, a great spot

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01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 5: in our game on Sunday, that to me kind of

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01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 5: epitomized that was it was fourteen seven, We got in

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Speaker 5: the ball third and eleven Case gets sacked.

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Speaker 2: God damn it, we have sacked.

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Speaker 5: Oh there's a flag, Oh there's a legal contact all

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01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 5: the way on the Texans sideline. When Case was sacked

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01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 5: on the right hash, there's no way cases even looking

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01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 5: over there.

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01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: The first down, we get a break, we get a

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01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: first down. Then they jump off sides. It's first in five.

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 5: Like, man, the brakes are okay, we're getting back in

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01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 5: this thing, turning, toss it to motor. He gets on

1758
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 5: the sideline. We're into We're into Brown's territory. Now we

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01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 5: got him on the ropes a little bit. Now they

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01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 5: call holding on Deeter and I went back in. I

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01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 5: watched that over and over. I'm like, I don't see it,

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01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 5: but either way, that's awful, though, John it moves back.

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01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 5: It's first and eleven. It's first and eleven. He throws

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Speaker 5: the woods across the middle incomplete. I can't remember it

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01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 5: happened on second down. Zadarius Smith sacks a month. Third down,

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01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 5: we punt them the ball, Flacco goes down and scores.

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Speaker 5: I think that was the the was that the long

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Speaker 5: throw to Cooper and it's twenty two seven. It's twenty

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01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 5: two seven, and you're like, I mean it was at

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Speaker 5: twenty two seven where I was like, boy, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: have our time score in fifteen.

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Speaker 2: But the point being that if that penalty, he's not

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Speaker 2: calling them dead.

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Speaker 5: And now we're getting the ball inside the Browns fifty

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Speaker 5: yard line and in their territory, who.

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Speaker 2: Knows what happens?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and maybe the whole thing changes, maybe score. It's

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01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 5: fourteen fourteen and they don't have a kicker.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what happens. Let's step aside. We got to

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01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: get into more of what needs to be done on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we've gotten into any of it

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Speaker 1: really because we've been yapping. But it's been fun here

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Speaker 1: at the Chairman's Club or Chairman's Reception. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why I say club, because there is a chairman's club,

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01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: but that's not it. It's the Chairman's Reception. But the

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Speaker 1: Taxak Texas Bowl, which is Wednesday night, A and M

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Speaker 1: and Oklahoma State, it's Texans Radio.

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Speaker 4: We're back, all right, Flyve Radio on location.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's Sly radio anything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: And besides, when you have I mean a Lombardi winner

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Speaker 1: here legend a guy who played.

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Speaker 4: In the inaugural Texans game.

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Speaker 1: But we won't get into what happened to him in

1795
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,839
Speaker 1: that game, an Aggie legend.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, when that win walks on an A

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Speaker 5: and M campus, I don't want to say you are

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01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 5: you are a football god. But it's almost when people

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Speaker 5: see you on a M campus, it's like they gravitate

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Speaker 5: towards you. You left such an in double mark on

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Speaker 5: that campus.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 10: Well, well thank you, guys. Think you always a truthy

1804
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 10: honored to be with you guys. And then for me,

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01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 10: A and M is always gonna be part of my life.

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Speaker 10: And and I think what's amazing about A and M

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Speaker 10: or any kid that went through college at that level,

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01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 10: was like, hey, you're a boy from high school and

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Speaker 10: now you become a young man, right, And I think

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Speaker 10: what I've learned through that time and that process.

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Speaker 11: It's just like, how amazing was I have ranch shirt

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Speaker 11: as a freshman.

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Speaker 10: I had to put time into it and the opportunity

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01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 10: shows up, and you know, it wasn't gravy it was

1815
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 10: It wasn't just a smooth selling. But I guess what

1816
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 10: it taught me so much about life and about you

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01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 10: appreciate the time, the moment me being here with you guys, like, hey,

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Speaker 10: enjoy the moment, be.

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Speaker 11: Where your feet's at, and enjoy the time.

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Speaker 2: That way joining us on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what do you think of the Aggies being

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Speaker 1: in this game and the transition taking place here coaching,

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Speaker 1: and we just talked to Elijah Robinson the last hour.

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Speaker 1: He's in a really unique spot as the intro. But

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Speaker 1: it seems like the future is bright. So what do

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Speaker 1: you think here?

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Speaker 11: Well, I do really think the future is bright.

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Speaker 10: Unfortunately, things happen, and I guess I give a lot

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Speaker 10: of credit to Ross Buck from making that bold move.

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Speaker 7: I guess.

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Speaker 10: Of ady in the country will not make that transition

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Speaker 10: or make that call. I kipped my hat on that.

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Speaker 10: And I'm not saying anything about Jimbo. I love Jimbo

1834
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Speaker 10: at the time I spent with Jimbo about football recruiting.

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Speaker 11: He's just a ball guy.

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Speaker 10: Unfortunate thing didn't work out the way we wanted With

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Speaker 10: my coach, coach Elko coming in. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 10: be a change, and I think it's gonna be good.

1839
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 10: And what he's been and on one thing good about

1840
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 10: him is that he all he had an opportunity to

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01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 10: be a part of the Aggie culture and knowing what

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01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 10: to expect, knowing what to anticipation's gonna be being a

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01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 10: part of the SEC as well. So that's going to

1844
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 10: allow him to have a chance to be on top

1845
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 10: or we really get the edge as he moved forward.

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Speaker 2: That you were such a you're such a unique player.

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01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 5: I mean you played sideline, the sideline, you covered, you

1848
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 5: did so much of everything.

1849
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: You laddled the ball to players and the cod bo

1850
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 2: is always one of my favorites. I've told you that

1851
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 2: many times.

1852
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 5: And I know he won't play on on Wednesday night,

1853
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 5: Edrin Cooper number forty five. When I watch him, I

1854
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 5: see your spirit in him because he's so fast, he's

1855
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 5: so aggressive.

1856
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 2: What did you see in him? And how do you

1857
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: think he'll be as a pro going to the next one?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think he has a bright future. The guys dynamic,

1859
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 10: his long, he's athletic. Uh you know me, he's not

1860
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 10: just a tackler. And the coverage and that's what I

1861
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 10: had to do. And I was just like I was

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01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 10: a tackler and I had a coverage. That was my

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Speaker 10: only strength.

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Speaker 11: I was never a great pass rusher, yep. But Eron

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01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 11: has that pass rushing ability.

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Speaker 10: He had over what seven eight saxes past year, and

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01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 10: he's a dynamic player. And then and I want whoever

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Speaker 10: where he lands in the future, is that hey don't

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01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,520
Speaker 10: don't give him too much, let him, give him specialize

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Speaker 10: in something. If it's gonna be passed for us, it's

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01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 10: gonna be coverage specialists, if you gonna be tackling, whatever

1872
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 10: you decide to do. Make him a one dimensional player

1873
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 10: until he gets adapted to the game because the game.

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Speaker 10: Sometimes we as coaches or former coaches always say, Hey,

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Speaker 10: he's good, he's smart. I can make them multiple things,

1876
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 10: and then he's really jack of all trades and master

1877
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 10: noney and get him something to get him good at.

1878
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Speaker 10: And I think he has the ability. He's not a

1879
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 10: Von Millard pass rush cutter or Mike Parson, but guess what.

1880
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Speaker 11: He's a good tackler. He's good in coverage.

1881
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Speaker 10: And then he's more like a Shackum than the kid

1882
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 10: down there at the Minneapolis for many years.

1883
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Speaker 11: Or Warner the coverage and then I see that in

1884
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 11: him that way.

1885
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Speaker 4: Joining us here on Texans Radio, dat the Cowboys.

1886
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Speaker 2: What do you think here down the stretch?

1887
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: And I know the winning record opponent thing has not

1888
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: worked out exactly the way they want, but look they've

1889
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: got some some volume of victories here and a golden

1890
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: opportunity hitting into the postseason.

1891
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's all about them. And then I

1892
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,839
Speaker 10: think the one thing is that unfortunately that it hasn't

1893
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 10: been what they wanted in the last few weeks here, right.

1894
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 10: And then I think when you are a good football team,

1895
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 10: and you play good enough during the year, you win

1896
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 10: the game that you're supposed to win, and you're in

1897
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 10: the position to get into the playoffs, right, I think

1898
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 10: that's any guy's dream or any team's dream, and I

1899
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 10: know we'll get in. And I think it's just okay,

1900
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 10: you just don't let this because because I think the

1901
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 10: mindset plays into it. As football players and and and

1902
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 10: as a former player, you always think about like, oh, shoot,

1903
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 10: here goes, there's the snowball start coming down. All things

1904
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,799
Speaker 10: are happening, bad things happening, and you got that mindset,

1905
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 10: and they can't have that mindset.

1906
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 11: And I think McCarthy or Dad Prescott, or.

1907
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 10: Mike Parson or even in Tank Lawrence, those guys are

1908
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 10: good leaders that they understand where they're at and they

1909
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 10: just gotta take one game at a time. You know,

1910
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 10: we hit some mumpy roles here, but guess what, we're

1911
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 10: still a good football team. We're still three or four

1912
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 10: best football team in the NFC, right right, and that's

1913
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 10: all you can control. Don't worry about the AFC. Don't

1914
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 10: worry but anybody else you can't control that stuff. Control yourself.

1915
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 10: And then I think this big is coming weekend is

1916
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 10: gonna be big because guess what, Detroit just won the

1917
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 10: division for the first time in thirty years.

1918
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Speaker 11: Has they been celebrating for the last few years. I

1919
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 11: don't for the last few days.

1920
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Speaker 7: I don't know.

1921
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 10: But whatever it is, I think Dan Campbell, my former

1922
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 10: Aggie Texas A and M. Tied End, my dear friend

1923
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 10: of mine, how would he have the team. I think

1924
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 10: he's gonna have the team.

1925
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 11: Ready to play.

1926
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 10: But if they can find a way to win this

1927
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 10: game and get something going to have a chance down

1928
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 10: the road because as you know, you guys, when you

1929
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 10: get in that dance, you never know what's gonna happen.

1930
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Speaker 11: And the hot team or the team that usually finish.

1931
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 5: Up and win it on Dad, I'm a huge fan

1932
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 5: of documentaries. I've always been a huge fan of yours.

1933
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 5: It was a documentary subject. I got to ask you,

1934
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 5: first of all, if you haven't seen all American twelfth

1935
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 5: Man productions. For A and M did a hell of

1936
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 5: a job, I learned stuff about you. I was like,

1937
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I didn't realize that. What was it

1938
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 5: like kind of going through that process to really kind

1939
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 5: of dive into your life and then it basically exposed

1940
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 5: it to everybody that maybe didn't know who you were.

1941
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 5: Maybe they remember you as number nine, but they don't

1942
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 5: know how you got there. Maybe they know you as

1943
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 5: a cowboy, but they didn't know what you were like

1944
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 5: at A and M. What was that documentary process like

1945
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 5: for you?

1946
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 10: Well, it really opened a lot of an opportune to

1947
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 10: present itself. I always want to say, hey, what's the

1948
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 10: root of that win? Like I like, does my niece

1949
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 10: and nephew my kids, Well, they know the generation of

1950
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 10: my parents, their grandparents went through. And then that's exactly

1951
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 10: why I decided to do that documentary because a lot

1952
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 10: of our kids don't understand how fortunate there are, and

1953
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 10: I hope that documentary will always be there for them

1954
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 10: to look back and say, I want to see mom

1955
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 10: and dad or I see grandparents how they gave us

1956
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 10: an opportunity because it wasn't easy.

1957
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: It wasn't for me.

1958
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 11: It was even easy. It's like just going to Texas

1959
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 11: A and M was a great opportunity. But guess what

1960
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 11: I had. Somebody had to get hurt for me to

1961
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 11: get a chance to even have a career.

1962
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 10: Because if he never twisted ankol on a sprinkly head,

1963
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 10: my career was never started at Texas A and M.

1964
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 11: And it would never be a dad win and and

1965
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 11: and so there's a lot of things that go through

1966
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 11: when I don't know.

1967
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 10: I've visited with somebody this morning on Norm hiskis Norm

1968
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 10: Hiskos legendary. I did have fundraising for Cotton Bowl, and

1969
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 10: he doesn't Normanthon, and he asked me about.

1970
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 11: The transfer portal, and I said, you know, you know,

1971
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 11: I'm not against it.

1972
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 7: I'm not for it.

1973
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 11: But but when you go through life.

1974
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 10: Football, the game of football teaches so much about overcoming odds,

1975
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 10: teaching so much of life skills, right, the commitment to sacrifice,

1976
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 10: the dedication of the adversity that you go through.

1977
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 7: And if you are.

1978
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 10: Willing to say every time there's something bad happens, you're

1979
01:26:59,000 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 10: in jump ship.

1980
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 11: How are you gonna be when the game or athletics

1981
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 11: gonna end.

1982
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 10: How are you gonna be as a father, as a parent,

1983
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 10: as a husband when things are hard?

1984
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 11: Are you going to give in or are you gonna

1985
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 11: go through the process? And then that's what I was saying.

1986
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 10: I say, that's the only thing that we don't get

1987
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 10: is that the next generation to realize, Hey, that's a

1988
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 10: process through.

1989
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 11: This is not always going to be great.

1990
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 10: As long as you're keeping nose clean, you work hard,

1991
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 10: an opportunity will come that win.

1992
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: Joining us on Texans Radio.

1993
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Dad, we talked to so many former players of

1994
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: the National Football League.

1995
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 4: Your journey is so interesting to me because you know.

1996
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: I met you when you were doing talk shows at

1997
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: San Antonio with Minnix, right, yes, and then all of

1998
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: a sudden I discover you're not doing talk shows anymore.

1999
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 4: You own Chick fil As.

2000
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 2: You didn't bring any with us tonight.

2001
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 11: I'm so sorry.

2002
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 4: Okay, next to you the crow, but always want some

2003
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 4: of that anyway.

2004
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Course, But what about your journey and how you pick

2005
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: your spots as to what you explore and do and

2006
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: excel at.

2007
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 10: Well, I think it's at the end of the day,

2008
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 10: it goes back to purpose. But your core values. I

2009
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 10: have core values, and and my core values is always, uh,

2010
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 10: make a compliment to somebody every day, your positive compliment

2011
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 10: two is always be.

2012
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 11: Uh present, be where your feet's at.

2013
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 10: And and three is that always know that it's never

2014
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 10: as good as you think it's gonna be. And uh

2015
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 10: and I think that for me, Chick fil A gives

2016
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 10: me the opportunity I wanted.

2017
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 11: To coach football.

2018
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:31,839
Speaker 7: I love football.

2019
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 11: Football has taught me all everything in my life has

2020
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 11: been football.

2021
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 10: And unfortunately, uh, when you have extra kids or more

2022
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 10: kids in your family, you got to find another different avenue.

2023
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 11: And and uh and I said, Okay, my mom own

2024
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 11: a restaurant when I was growing up.

2025
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 10: She impacted my relatives and her employees, just like I

2026
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 10: want to do as a football coach. So I thought about, Uh,

2027
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 10: chick fil as a restaurant, So I impact these kids

2028
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 10: and give them a chance of life. Because I have

2029
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 10: an inner city I'm downtown for or in the city kids,

2030
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 10: not many opportunities. But I can sit here and I

2031
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 10: won't sit here and tell you guys, but there's so

2032
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 10: many testimony that had happened in the last few years

2033
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 10: that you're like, Wow, this is unbelievable.

2034
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: And and all all I.

2035
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 11: Want was for me is it to better have a

2036
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 11: better life for my kids. And what I have grown up.

2037
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,560
Speaker 10: All I want is the kids at Chick fil A

2038
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 10: is to have a better for their kids, better than

2039
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 10: what they had when they were growing up. So I

2040
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 10: think that transition or that progression has really come to

2041
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 10: fortuition slowly but surely.

2042
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 11: Not all but a high percentage.

2043
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 2: Do they know who you are? Have they figured it out?

2044
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,919
Speaker 5: There's a lot of stuff on YouTube.

2045
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 2: Have they figured figured out?

2046
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 10: It took them about a couple of years toize because

2047
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:54,560
Speaker 10: I said, Hey, I want to come in.

2048
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 11: I'm want to squeeze the limit chicken, breath the chicken.

2049
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 11: I want to make you feel like, hey, I can right.

2050
01:29:59,439 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 2: There with them.

2051
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 11: I don't need you. If you don't want to be here,

2052
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 11: I don't need you.

2053
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 3: I can.

2054
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 11: I can figure this thing out until I get it.

2055
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 10: And it took them about two years to realize, Oh

2056
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 10: the pants finally real life. At Christmas party and it's like, hey,

2057
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 10: that's a Dalas Cowboys, that's a Texas a and m

2058
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 10: I was like, oh my god, something sell. So it's

2059
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 10: been very good in that way because now that they

2060
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 10: appreciate that, they realized that hey, it's not just hey,

2061
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 10: you can be or you were given.

2062
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 11: It was never given to me. That they have played

2063
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 11: an A and M. But I'll played the Cowboys.

2064
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 2: I didn't.

2065
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,480
Speaker 11: I earned it, I worked hard for it, for the opportunity.

2066
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 5: They see you as mister Winn as opposed to that

2067
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 5: that the cowboy, and they see as mister Wynn, and

2068
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 5: that's a different seeing that first probably mattered more.

2069
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 2: And then they find out that had an impact too.

2070
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 5: I promise you young kids know that they see that,

2071
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 5: they understand it, but you going in there and grinding

2072
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 5: with them was probably the best thing they could have

2073
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 5: ever seen.

2074
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 11: That.

2075
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 4: Have you been able to watch the Texans and all

2076
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 4: this season?

2077
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

2078
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 6: I love it?

2079
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 11: Of course, you know, I see ja.

2080
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 10: They've been fun to watch, unfortunately with a couple of

2081
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 10: the injuries and receivers, but but I that the CJ

2082
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 10: has been unbelievable.

2083
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 11: Will Anderson has been great too as well.

2084
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 10: But yes, I have followed the Texan that have been

2085
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 10: a great year, have been fun to watch, and and

2086
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 10: I think that they control their own destiny, right and

2087
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 10: and and then they don't control destiny, can't control about Jacksonville,

2088
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 10: can't control about Indianapolis. But guess what if they can't

2089
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 10: just win it, win it out, it's gonna be a good,

2090
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 10: good start for the markt Demica. Ryan is a He's

2091
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 10: a hell of a football player at Alabama. It was

2092
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,879
Speaker 10: a great player at UH you know, for the Texans.

2093
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 10: Always been a big fan and and what he's done, Man,

2094
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 10: he should be coaching the year if him or Dan

2095
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 10: Campbell would be, you know, one of the two guys

2096
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 10: and coach of the year.

2097
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 2: Yes, does a G get a head coaching job?

2098
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2099
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 10: I think he If they keep doing what they're doing,

2100
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 10: agents will have an opportunity. If a G gets one,

2101
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 10: and that's phenomenal. Can't be asked for a better person

2102
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 10: to get an opportunity, right the hard work, I can

2103
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 10: tell you. I was up there at training camp this

2104
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 10: past year with the tech with the during DeMarcus Ware

2105
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 10: and Zach Thomas uh induction to the football NFL football thing.

2106
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 10: So I decided, hey, you go see Dan, which is

2107
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 10: only three hours away. So I went there and I

2108
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,520
Speaker 10: watched and I was like, man, it's uh, it's fascinating

2109
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 10: what Aaron Glynn has done. Everybody was, you know, but

2110
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 10: look at him now and what he's done. And he's

2111
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 10: done a phenomenal job.

2112
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 4: He's put the time and he's paid his dues.

2113
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 2: There's no question.

2114
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 1: Dad, thanks a lot for joining us, my pleasure, all right, Yeah,

2115
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 1: Win Linebacker, Lombardi, Winner, Aggie Cowboy.

2116
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 4: We forgive him for that. Just kidding around, Dad, win always.

2117
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 2: And you don't get you don't get many.

2118
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 5: You don't get many players that play their entire career

2119
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:48,759
Speaker 5: in the state of Texas.

2120
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, in the state of Texas, A and

2121
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 1: M Cowboys. I mean that would Texans. But you know

2122
01:32:56,080 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: that is strong, tried and then a Texan and then

2123
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 1: a cowboy. And that's how it worked out for him.

2124
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: All right, A couple of minutes on the way out,

2125
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,799
Speaker 1: maybe one minute on the way out. But quick quickie

2126
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: thought on Sunday, because it's hard to beat a team

2127
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: twice and they're gonna.

2128
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 2: Be hungry for revenge. Yeah, Vrabel's gonna want one. And

2129
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 2: here's the thing.

2130
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 5: We've won the games in Tennessee the last few years,

2131
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 5: they've won the games in Houston. And here's the other

2132
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 5: thing we've been talking about CJ. Is CJ gonna be back?

2133
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 5: Is CJ going to be back?

2134
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 2: We haven't even talked.

2135
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 5: About Will Levison, whether Will Levis is gonna play or

2136
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 5: that we're gonna see Ryan Tannel. I watched that game

2137
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 5: against Seattle. Seattle did a good job of getting after Tannel.

2138
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 5: I still think that's the issue with Tennessee. They just

2139
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 5: can't protect they can't protect it. And Jalen Duncan got hurt.

2140
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 5: But when Henry was back, he was productive. Henry was

2141
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 5: back and productive, and that's kind of scary. I just

2142
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 5: hope they forget about him and trying to rely on Tannehill.

2143
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 5: So we'll see Texans matchup next. Good show up next,

2144
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 5: gonna be good, and all the CJ. Stroud stuff as

2145
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 5: you go over some of that, all right, that's gonna

2146
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 5: do it. From the Chairman's reception prior to the Taxak

2147
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 5: Texas Ball Wednesday night at RG Stadium, Texas A and

2148
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 5: M at Oklahoma State. Check it out, be there Ticketmaster

2149
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 5: or listen on Sports Radio six ' ten and we'll

2150
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 5: have a full Texans all access Wednesday night at six.

2151
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 4: Nick Cassario kicks off the show.

2152
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:13,560
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

2153
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: Thank you very much to Byron for producing, have a

2154
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: great night. Thank you to Matt for engineering.

2155
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:19,879
Speaker 4: Go Texans.