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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two ninety two,

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Speaker 1: Episode two, after.

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Speaker 2: Danny's Eye Gist Day production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America, share conciousness. It's Thursday, June twenty second, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know what time it is? You know

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Speaker 2: what time it is? Jack, I know exactly what time

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Speaker 2: it is. Oh good, it's good to know because this

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Speaker 2: twenty wait what is it the twenty second?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I knew that. It's National Onion rings Day. Okay, shout

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Speaker 2: out mine one of my favorite, actually, I think one

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Speaker 2: of the more underrated. Fried flush National HVAC Tech Day,

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Speaker 2: obviously with the heat out there, shout out to everybody

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Speaker 2: keeping that heating, ventilation, air conditioning systems all in check.

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Speaker 2: National Chocolate Declare Day, also World Rainforest Day, and National

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Speaker 2: Kissing Day. This is your babies, kiss your loved ones.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was out until rainforests and kissing.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Well, Miles, my name is Jack O'Brien aka Come Grimas,

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Speaker 1: Come Grims Grimace, Come, Come, come Grimas Grandma's come.

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Speaker 2: Come tell me that your love in it and put

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Speaker 2: it on my tongue.

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Speaker 1: That is courtesy of southa Door Jolly on the Discord

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Speaker 1: politely spelled it com e, which was nice of them,

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Speaker 1: even though we we know what's really up. Also, some

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Speaker 1: people are going out and tasting the Grimace Come milkshake,

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Speaker 1: and it almost seems like they think they're doing it

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Speaker 1: on air.

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Speaker 2: Behalf bro like I have gone bravely to the arches

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Speaker 2: to taste.

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Speaker 1: I just I just want to make sure it's clear

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Speaker 1: we're not endorsing this product. We're just saying that it

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Speaker 1: is clearly Grimace Come that If that is intriguing to

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Speaker 1: you as it is to me, that's great, but that's

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Speaker 1: embrace embrace it, but just don't don't be mad at

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Speaker 1: me when it tastes that. I think one of the

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Speaker 1: reviews was purple bubblegum and an Ui how Oni Yeah, wow,

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Speaker 1: didn't you an idiot?

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Speaker 2: Fucking idiot? I knew that.

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Speaker 1: For some reason wasn't clicking today anyway, Philosopher may.

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Speaker 2: On that one, and U I and U I n

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,

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Speaker 1: mister Miles.

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Speaker 2: Gradh Wow on we baby b anyway, Miles gray a

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Speaker 2: k A. Look, this is from Christy Almagucci Man, because

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Speaker 2: we did what's his face? Uh loan muskrat. Yeah, a

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Speaker 2: loan scum was out here saying, you know, cis gender

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Speaker 2: is now a slur. So allow me to introduce myself,

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Speaker 2: Miles Great aka ciscull and Ebert aka Sissy Cis Demeanor,

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Speaker 2: Elliott aka Sissypus a k A. Sissy Spaceic aka Twisted

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Speaker 2: Sister aka System of a Down aka Sister Sister. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you to Christy Amagucci Man, not wobble House for

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Speaker 2: those wonderful a K's and all the other people who

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Speaker 2: hopped in that thread. Wonderful. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Biz came in with Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants.

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Speaker 2: Yes, was pretty good. Another good, what was it at

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Speaker 2: Drew Gott's put Cisco like that thong the dong dong thong. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: yeah yeah, And Sister Christian night Ranger sister, because you're

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Speaker 2: motoring that song is everywhere these days, is it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It's in air.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's it's pretty prominently featured in air. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like once it had its boogie night scene,

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Speaker 1: it was it was over for all those other hoes.

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Speaker 1: Journey anyways, Miles, You're thrilled to be joined in our

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Speaker 1: third seat by a very funny comedian activist. She's the

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Speaker 1: host of the great award winning podcast Good Muslim, Bad Muslim,

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Speaker 1: the singer Fellow on Comedy at the Pop Culture Collapse.

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Speaker 1: She's written in The New York Times, wrote and performed

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Speaker 1: a piece on something called Fresh Air for some lady

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Speaker 1: named Terry Gross. Is the hilarious. The talent is Zara Normal.

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Speaker 3: You know, I had a crush on the Grimace as

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Speaker 3: a kid. No why The Grimace and the Hamburglar were

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Speaker 3: like my early pan jam Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: What you had like like an awakening looking at Grimace.

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Speaker 3: A little bit, okay in retrospect, Yeah, now that I

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Speaker 3: appreciate my weird and kink.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, okay, I don't think. I just let

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Speaker 2: me get screenshare really quick because I just want to

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Speaker 2: I just want to bring images of this to the forefront. Okay,

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Speaker 2: here we go. Okay, so let's.

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh look at that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this one can get it with the teeth.

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, Oh no, Grimace with teeth is really troubling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that happened. I mean, I don't know. Jack speak

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Speaker 2: for yourself. I'm like, I bite, yeah, ship baby.

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Speaker 1: Although without the teeth also troubling because his mouth just

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Speaker 1: looks weird, and I like this one Grimace's mouth, there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, you know what Grimace was shades on Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Grimace can get it.

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Speaker 1: He's like kind of giving perpetual duck face, like he

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Speaker 1: looks like he has lip.

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Speaker 2: Fillery's gender is Grimace gender? I think Grimace is.

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Speaker 3: Like Grimace is non binary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so MS.

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Speaker 3: Is like purple Tellotubby, like early purple Teletubby, like yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he was always sort of like gyrating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a little Yeah, he moves a little

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Speaker 2: bit more dynamic than the his amorphous form would have

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Speaker 2: you believe, where the.

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Speaker 1: Hamburgers always kind of sneaking around and yeah, what about

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Speaker 1: the Hamburgers?

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Speaker 2: Something something about this like.

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Speaker 3: There's always like so deviant, very queer to me, they

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Speaker 3: were both very queer.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, right here look at that. Yeah, just ooh,

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Speaker 2: what's what's up with these burgers? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we're looking at an animatronic and the big

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Speaker 1: movement that they've given him is his eyes.

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Speaker 3: Shady eyes, let's make a kinky sandwich.

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Speaker 2: And they're just burgers with so many preservatives, and top

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Speaker 2: it off with a grammars Cum milkshake. Why not? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 3: And sawdust?

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Speaker 2: What's new with you?

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Speaker 1: You are breaking a record here, or at least approaching

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about breaking records.

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Speaker 1: Yes, for among the most pregnant people that we've ever had.

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Speaker 3: I'm pregnant thirty seven weeks and three days.

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Speaker 2: There you go already dilated.

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Speaker 3: That two centimeters dilated.

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Speaker 2: Look at you. That's going on?

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Speaker 3: And I have COVID, know, which is why I sound

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Speaker 2: The dedication.

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Speaker 3: I'm so dedicated. Yeah, they wanted to induce me, and

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Speaker 3: I told them to wait until I do this.

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Speaker 2: Well you did run.

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Speaker 1: You ran it by Miles and I and we were

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Speaker 1: like that, actually you know two you you ran it

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Speaker 1: by this a couple of weeks ago. We said, two

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Speaker 1: weeks is not that much time for us to book

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Speaker 1: a backup, guessed and so yeah, I don't want to work.

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Speaker 2: And then this morning, when you're like, guys have COVID,

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Speaker 2: I was like, and we got a show to record.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not recording this in person?

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Speaker 2: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Is it is that why you're sharing that information with me,

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Speaker 1: because otherwise it sounds like a.

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Speaker 2: YP not an MP. I'm not going to tell you

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Speaker 2: about it, but how is it? How you feeling? You're

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Speaker 2: you're right there, you're on the doorstep feeling good?

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Speaker 3: Yo, you know, I feel surprisingly well right now. I'm glowy,

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Speaker 2: Oh my hot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that's pronounced v l o U m E. Is

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Speaker 3: Pronounce ven iOS ven i? Yeah, it's very value me

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Speaker 3: And uh, what else can I tell you? I'm walking

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Speaker 3: a ton Yeah that's great, and uh, like, you know,

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Speaker 3: just really feeling this. I've been taking hypno birthing classes.

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Speaker 2: Damn, what is that? Like a genre of music?

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Speaker 3: It could be. There's like a lot of meditation, panting.

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Speaker 3: It's it's really fascinating. There's some of it that is

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Speaker 3: like a little bit you know, like cis white woman

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Speaker 3: feminism of the seventies. That's like, okay, let's you know.

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Speaker 3: Some of it is a little bit ablest and it's

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Speaker 3: like pain is the devil and don't think about pain.

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Speaker 2: Pain is just fear. And actually yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so I'm a person who had chronic pain in

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Speaker 3: her thirties and I had to work my way through it,

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Speaker 3: and so, like I dig a lot of the lessons

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Speaker 3: visualizations I've ever gotten in a birthing class. So like

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Speaker 3: I know at every single stage of my labor what

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Speaker 3: my uterus is doing, why, how, what's going on? What

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Speaker 3: are the potential And I have pictures they do like

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Speaker 3: I had classes with like play dooh and like tactile

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Speaker 2: Shit, oh wow.

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Speaker 1: Is it like you're giving your baby that experience through

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Speaker 3: You, No, it's just for me. It's so that I

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Speaker 3: go in knowing because with pain, when you don't know

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Speaker 3: what's going on, absolutely, it's more painful, right yeah, because

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Speaker 3: that's how pain works. It's sort of a general It's

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Speaker 3: kind of like anxiety when you have an emotion you

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Speaker 3: can't identify and you're just anxious. Sure, yeah, but once

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Speaker 2: Right right?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Right? Oh, this is tracting, this is this happening, which

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Speaker 2: exactly that's good because you're building up this like psychological

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Speaker 2: scaffolding for you to like enforce your mentality going through

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Speaker 2: what is going to be an experience like any other

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Speaker 2: that I'm unable to imagine or experience. But your heart,

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Speaker 2: Oh my.

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Speaker 1: God, I've ever seen a human being do like just

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Speaker 1: so so incredible.

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Speaker 2: I had so much anxiety going into like the birth

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Speaker 2: of my kid, because like I'm like, how do I help?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: This is, but this is everything they give us so

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Speaker 3: instead lives as this like very natural, very biological, organic

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Speaker 3: thing that your body is primarily ready to do. That

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Speaker 3: Like yo, folks, women and comas give birth right and

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Speaker 3: it's all about like relaxing, which, of course cut to

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Speaker 3: the day I give birth and I'm like on the

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Speaker 3: window stabbing my husband. Duncan, this is the worst period

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Speaker 2: You're like, give me an epidural, Like give me that needle.

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Speaker 3: We're my husband, just for you, let me do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh well, I'm very excited, very excited for you. Stoked.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually genuinely excited for labor. I'm an extreme sports junkie.

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Speaker 3: I'm very curious about how this is gonna go yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm taking bets if y'all think I'm going to cave

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Speaker 3: in the first five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what I'll take. I'd have to see your

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Speaker 2: birthing plan to be able to assess how much, how

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Speaker 2: how much you'll stick to it. But if I see

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Speaker 2: on how other labors labors have been your family, I

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Speaker 3: Okay, this morning I searched can I have overnight French

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I do this thing regularly where I'm a Gemini.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you have to for overnight French toast. It's phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like thing or like a pressurized environment

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Speaker 3: Have a rocket scientist friend at JPL that I hit

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Were they any help every time? Okay? Great, except

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Speaker 3: Okay? Whenever people talk about pregnancy, they're always like, it's

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Speaker 3: Well that's the thing. Is it used to be that

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Speaker 3: To like really understand the movement of the perenium and

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Speaker 1: You know, I think this is correct. But the baby

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Speaker 3: No, here's what, but whole babies are a thing if

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Speaker 3: Well, and here's the other thing I learned about midwife

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Speaker 3: And the hypno birth story is she goes in, I

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Speaker 2: What is your underrated?

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Speaker 3: Okay, we need more birth stories, folks. Yeah, Like, I

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Speaker 3: Like these aren't even men asking me these questions, you

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Speaker 3: It's like you know, alien animal, husband and read or

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's a like they when there is

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Speaker 3: And you know, not that I'm opposed to screaming and

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Speaker 2: Darts scientific I don't think I seen.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, yeah, I could like create a bullseye

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Speaker 1: It's like a really powerful nerve cannon.

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Speaker 2: Show me the target you're painted on his chest with

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Speaker 2: But yeah, my mind was completely so much of my

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Speaker 2: what you think is going on? And then you talk

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Speaker 2: like then I talked to my other friends and relatives

441
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Speaker 2: and people who I respect who have gone through this

442
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: maybe one time or multiple times, and then I was like,

443
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: they're giving me really good advice. And I realized how

444
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: much of that shit seeps into your brain and completely

445
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: just changes what exactly this whole thing is. And once

446
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 2: I was able to sort of get past this like

447
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: media informed idea of what it meant. I was able

448
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: to enter this more like peaceful, calm, like loving part

449
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: where my energy wasn't fear, but more like, how can

450
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: I use my love to make this process the best

451
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: way possible and then enter into this without necessarily having

452
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: like the fear of someone screaming at me or accidentally

453
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: grabbing my penis because they think it's my hand, Like

454
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: in all the movies in the eighties grab someone's hand.

455
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: I forget what movie that? Do you know what I'm

456
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: talking about. There's a movie.

457
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Speaker 3: Where no, but that's totally what I'm thinking.

458
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: In months or something, and like someone's giving birth and

459
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: someone's like, grab a hold of something, and this woman

460
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: just grabs the dude's crotch and just like the guy's

461
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: like a and she's like, you have a very big finger,

462
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 2: and I forget what that is. I'm sure that gang

463
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 2: well know exactly what I'm talking about. But anyway, oh

464
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: my god.

465
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Speaker 3: You don't understand. I have such a nice husband. I

466
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 3: used to play this game with him called open up

467
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: your legs. I'm gonna narrowly miss your balls, and I

468
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: would make this and he would do it every time.

469
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: He would open up his legs, and he'd always be like, oh,

470
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Speaker 3: I hate this game.

471
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Speaker 2: How does he win that game?

472
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 3: It's always about whether I win or lose.

473
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Speaker 2: That was the game.

474
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Speaker 3: He's a CIS man. He's a cis white man in

475
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Speaker 3: the world.

476
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Speaker 2: Sorry, we don't want to run a foul. Yeah.

477
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Speaker 3: And then one day we were at dinner with friends

478
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Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, he always lets me

479
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: play this game. He just lets me and we're all cackling,

480
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: and he was like hey. So then the next time

481
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: I was like, open up your legs, going to narrowly

482
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Speaker 3: miss your balls during a boring die documentary.

483
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Speaker 1: He was like, no documentary, No, And I was like, damn,

484
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: I love that. It's just done for your entertainment purposes.

485
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not.

486
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: It's just like when you're bored. I thought it was like,

487
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, you you were mad at.

488
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: Him or something.

489
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that I can get him

490
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: to do in that labor delivery room I have to

491
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Speaker 3: really think about.

492
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, but they're like, so what's your birth plane?

493
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: You're like, all right, So first of all, I tell

494
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: my husband to open up his legs.

495
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: I was just asking if you wanted like a peanut

496
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Speaker 2: pillow for your legs, or if you needed like a

497
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: yoga ball. No, no, no, I'm good. I'm just gonna narrowly

498
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: just smash him in the cross.

499
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Speaker 1: Next, I just yank on his hair as hard as

500
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Speaker 1: I can.

501
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: And then I've got this allow I've got this grimace

502
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: in hamburglar costume.

503
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get freaky. Yeah I was. I was

504
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: asking my Obi, it's in my birthplane. Can you press

505
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: this grimace for the last few pushes?

506
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that would make my day.

507
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

508
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back

509
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about some news.

510
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

511
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: And we're back, and uh, the GOP back on their fuckery.

512
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: What's the latest, Miles. It's not much here, but I

513
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: just want to I just want to mention this because again,

514
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: the fuck face wing of the Republican Party, the Freedom Caucus,

515
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: they were like, they're like, this is bullshit, the dead ceiling. Ah,

516
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: we fucking hate this. We need to we need to

517
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: cut all spending, especially to social safety nets. But remember

518
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: they did make a deal. They're a public they did

519
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: a deal. They figured out. Remember they said it was

520
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: gonna be real bad for the economy, but if we

521
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: don't make this deal. The last minute, they made the

522
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: deal and Republicans agreed to fund the government and pay

523
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: you know, any outstanding balances so forth. But guess what

524
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: now they're deciding they can fuck shit up by going

525
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: after appropriations bills to cut spending. So these are the

526
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: bills that are essentially that spell out exactly how these

527
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: budgets are, how the money is spent. So their little fucking,

528
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 2: you know, clever logic here is saying like, well, you know,

529
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: I know, we agreed to all these figures and the

530
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: debt ceiling bill, uh, you know, and like that. But

531
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: to us, that was just a cap. You know, that

532
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 2: just means we could go up to that amount. There's

533
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: nothing to say we can't go below that by one

534
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty billion dollars. And that is now the

535
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: logic that they are parading around in some of these committees,

536
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: which is basically saying like, we just agreed to that

537
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: being like a number, the top number. And meanwhile, like

538
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: every other sane human being is saying, like, how is

539
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: that a fucking deal? If you say this is the

540
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: number we're agreeing to for this debt ceiling, and then

541
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: you reneg on that after the fact and be like, actually, no,

542
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: that just that means that that's that's just the that's

543
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: just the highest. So this is going to be an

544
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: issue obviously with the Democrats and the White House and

545
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: also the send it because they're always the ones who

546
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: have to like end up seeing these bills and be like, fuck, man, like,

547
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: what are we what is this? Like? Don't they know

548
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: how to just fucking do the bare minimum? Spoiler alert

549
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: They don't. And Senate Republicans aren't even really happy with

550
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: this because even like some of their like they've somehow

551
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: awoke from their maga coma in the Senate and you

552
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: have people like this senator, I don't even I don't

553
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: even bother to figure out who it was. Let me

554
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: tell you exactly who it was. Oh yeah, John Kennedy,

555
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: who is famously not the most consistent senator that we

556
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: have to said quote, if you propose a compromise, you

557
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: need to tell the truth and tell people exactly what

558
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: the compromise is. I can tell you that senators are

559
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: tired of getting the compromise, voting for it or even

560
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: not voting for it and finding out later that wasn't

561
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: the truth.

562
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: So this is him complaining about this like last minute switch.

563
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: Room exactly from the Freedom Caucus freaks who are like,

564
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: this is how we can get this is how we

565
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: can extract our pound of flesh or whatever, and even

566
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy is like, yeah, I mean, I guess it's

567
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: like I get that logic, but I had to kind

568
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: of make a deal with them to keep my gavel.

569
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: That's really cool. So there's yeah, so bringing a bigger

570
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: and bigger gabble to work every day, Yeah, try and

571
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: take this so fucking heavy, but yeah, I get anyway

572
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: more more brinkmanship on the way and systemically this.

573
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Speaker 1: For some reason, this reminded me of like the conversation

574
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Speaker 1: we were having in our episode where we interviewed you know,

575
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: where we were talking about big sugar in the sugar

576
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: industry and.

577
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 2: How there were phenomenal episode.

578
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: Thank you the Yeah, great episode, a great podcast by

579
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: the way, everybody should go listen. But you know, early

580
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: in the episode, Celeste was talking about how they or

581
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: early in the season, like they win a victory, like

582
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: they sue on behalf of all these sugar cane workers

583
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Speaker 1: and like get this big settlement for sugar cane workers,

584
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: like fifty million dollars and it's a huge win. But

585
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: then the side that is like capital and private money

586
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: and private capital just pushes back and just keeps pushing

587
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: and they have more time and more energy and more

588
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: weight in our world because they're able to just do it.

589
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: So like even it's just like even a small win,

590
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: like getting them to let the economy keep moving and

591
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: like having spending for these programs like they there's still

592
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: a way for them to clod back. There's still a

593
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: way for them to just make any any victory on

594
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: behalf of like social spending and social welfare into a

595
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: loss because the system is just set up to favor

596
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: any anything that is going to get in the way

597
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: of you know, social welfare and allow people to like

598
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: it's just better for them to have a thing where

599
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: they're just like, no, we just privatize everything, and uh,

600
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: it's like, why.

601
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: Why are they such cartoon villains?

602
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I mean because we're at that phase

603
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: too where we really have people who have no business civics. Yeah,

604
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: you know, at the even most basic level, who have

605
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: basically racists memed their way into Congress.

606
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: Exactly, like that's how they got there.

607
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like, okay, what do you want to

608
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: do with these budgets about huh, I don't like Joe Brandon.

609
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: They're like, oh no, okay, well this is bad how

610
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of people saying, oh, yeah, if

611
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: we have another government shutdown, that won't be that bad.

612
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah it would be, it would be. But again, this

613
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: is this is the back and forth that we get

614
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: to witness firsthand as we welcome new.

615
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: Like a whole party of I want to die alone.

616
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah truly. Yeah, it's like.

617
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: The same mentality I don't care, I want to die alone.

618
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: Let me die alone. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of racists, one of them has taken Molly

620
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: and realized that they were racists and that being racist

621
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: sucks white supremacy.

622
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: What what are you trying to tell me that the

623
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: villainized drug of the seventies, that that was the smoke

624
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: screen to cover up the Korean War It actually turns

625
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: out to be good.

626
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: It might just might, but don't hold your breath now.

627
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: But even around in the seventies, I mean I knew

628
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: it was like first thing out as a party drug,

629
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: in Dallas. But isn't Molly Molly's.

630
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: Like, Molly is m D m A.

631
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Speaker 3: I thought it was.

632
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: Okay, m D m A. Let's be let's be a

633
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: little scientific here, I say Molly, because you know I'm

634
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: out here in the streets. Yeah, but it's it's m

635
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: D m A.

636
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: It is being treated as a psychedelic that is like

637
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: being researched heavily, not as a thing that you just

638
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: like give out to people, but as a therapeutic instrument

639
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: that where like during a therapy you are giving it

640
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: and then there is like a guided therapy session in

641
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: which the kind of you know, effects of the MDMA

642
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: help you come to terms with different parts of your

643
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: emotional like scaffolding and like how you've been built and

644
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: how you've built yourself kind of accidentally and haphazardly in

645
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: the dark of your unconscious, Like you now have access

646
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: to that stuff. And whereas like during normal therapy you're

647
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: just talking to a person and it can be difficult.

648
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: Or take time.

649
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: I guess it's like the thing that you hear a

650
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: lot is that it's just a shortcut to like get

651
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: into a lot of these issues that people need to

652
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: be able to address them. That takes a lot of

653
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: time and a lot of like breaking down barriers to

654
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: get to.

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Speaker 3: The best analogy I heard for it was that because MDMA,

656
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: it fills your receptors with love drugs, right, It's like

657
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: a love drug. It's people explain that it's sort of

658
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: like when you're wanting to dive into trauma just raw

659
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: like that with a therapist one on one. It's kind

660
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 3: of like pouring an empty picture, right and trying to

661
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: drink from that cup, versus with MDMA, then you're actually

662
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: sort of filling the picture with water. You're filling your

663
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: receptors with good feeling and then tackling the trauma.

664
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: Right.

665
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: And I have a few friends that it was absolutely

666
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: life changing for.

667
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean we see the research constantly how

668
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: it's helped, especially with people like with PTSD and soldiers

669
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 2: with stress and like traumas it relates to like racial

670
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: abuse and shit like that. It's like all we see

671
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: are like positives here.

672
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a Psychedelic Science Conference happening in Denver this

673
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: week actually, and like there's just so much learning and

674
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: so it's a very exciting time for people who are

675
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: in medicine. And like kind of interested in using these tools.

676
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: Like the research that's coming through is that it's like

677
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: a very powerful tool.

678
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

679
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: And a great documentary by Michael Pollin, Yeah on Netflix,

680
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: during which I was narrowly missing my husband's both.

681
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: Oh so not the most engaging. You got a little

682
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 2: bored there some parts.

683
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: I was like, I get it, I get.

684
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: It, I get it, I get it all right, ball

685
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: smash time, I miss, I mean narrowly miss, narrowly miss,

686
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: narrowly smashing them. But this story is from a comes

687
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: out of a recent study in the unit from the

688
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: University of Chicago where researchers were looking at how MDMA

689
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: was like enhancing the pleasantness of certain types of physical touch,

690
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: and one participant stuck out to the researchers there is

691
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: named Brendan because at the end of the trial, this guy, Brendan,

692
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: filled out the final questionnaire and at the bottom of

693
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: the form when they're talking about like, how do you

694
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: feel going like after this whole experience, wrote quote, this

695
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: experience has helped me sort out a debilitating personal issue.

696
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 2: Google google my name. I now know what I need

697
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: to do. When they looked at that, they said, holy wait,

698
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 2: what the fuck does this person mean by I now

699
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: know what I need to do, like go talk to

700
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: them right now. That yeah, because they also googled. They

701
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 2: googled his name and found out that like, like about

702
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: a year or two prior to this study, he was

703
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 2: docksed by like ANTIFA like researchers who are basically trying

704
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: to put out all these names of prominent Nazis and

705
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: white supremacists in the US, and he was one of them.

706
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: He led a very prominent group in the Midwest, So

707
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: they were like, what the fuck When they asked him,

708
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 2: They're like, yo, so what's this plan white supremacist guy?

709
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 2: Now that you've had some like MDMA, he said, quote,

710
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: just realize love is the most important thing. Quote. I

711
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: felt in that moment that all of my priorities in

712
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: my life were just so messed up the way I

713
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: was interacting with people, particularly people who are close to me.

714
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: But there was also an almost euphoric feeling, a feeling

715
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: of love, and I concluded that was the sort of

716
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: feeling that I should strive to permeate across the world.

717
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: So they're like, oh, okay. His background was, you know,

718
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: in high school he leaned liberal, but then he got

719
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: to college, joined a frat of like affluent white guys

720
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 2: that were conservative, and then that being around those people

721
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: slowly sent him down like that radicalization rabbit hole of like,

722
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: hey you should read this book. Hey you should check

723
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: this podcast out. Hey you should check out what they're

724
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: saying on Fox. And next thing, you know, he's leading

725
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: a you know, he's in fucking Charlottesville, like with a

726
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: tiki tortise. Wow, like leading people. Yeah. So now this

727
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: isn't to say like MDMA is a cure all because

728
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: this guy was in a period of like serious self

729
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: reflection after being like outed, losing his job, and like

730
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: there's like relationships, like close relationships began to fall apart.

731
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: But he said that really had him in a state

732
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: where he was trying to figure out what was going wrong,

733
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: since up to that point he thought he was on

734
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 2: like a good trajectory with all this nonsense, and many

735
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: experts like agree, they're like, yeah, intention is the key

736
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: here when using psychedelics. It's not like you could just

737
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: air drop a bunch of MDMA on the state of

738
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: Florida and then like we're gonna move on, right, Like, yeah,

739
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: how to have the intention to at least be open

740
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: to looking at your own life and being a period

741
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: of self reflection, because again, this isn't some magic racism

742
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: a racer and he also it's also not a.

743
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Pill that you take and have this insight. Again, it

744
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: is part of a like total program of therapy where

745
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: you're working with a therapist who knows you and has

746
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: a sense of like where where you're at. And it's

747
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: that I feel like there's just going to be a

748
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: tendency for Americans to be like, all right, so I

749
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: take this thing and like things, things are good Again,

750
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: It's like a I take it like tail and all

751
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: and we're good. No, it's actually part of working on yourself,

752
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: which is uncomfortable. This just makes it gives you an

753
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: ability to do uncomfortable work a little bit more freely.

754
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And there's like, you know, one of the

755
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: researchers that were spoken to for this article from UCLA

756
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: was just saying, like, you know, all psychedelics have the

757
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: potential to help people get in touch with new perspectives

758
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: for other radicalized in visions individuals. She says a drug

759
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: like ayahuasca could be useful because it's like taking sort

760
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: of a good hard, look at yourself in the mirror.

761
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: She goes on to say, that's why ayahuasca kind of

762
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: has a reputation of doing the people, kind of showing

763
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 2: them maybe where they screwed up and how they got

764
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: there in a compassionate way, like which is also there's.

765
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: All kinds of studies of doing this on cops with

766
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 3: PTSD that have been highly successful. It's like more prevalently

767
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: used in the UK. There's lots of research studies on

768
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: it there right here. It was like it became demonized,

769
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: like Nixon demonized it all, and it became part of

770
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 3: the like smoke screen, look at LSD, look at all

771
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: these you know, who's.

772
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: Not creeping inequality or that kind of shit. It kind

773
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: of blew my.

774
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: Mind that the guy who invented the PCR study found

775
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: it during an during an LSD trip.

776
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: What's the PCR study?

777
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: Like you know PCRs, like the what is it that

778
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: you do for COVID You take like a PCR test?

779
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ali Moray's chain reaction? Yeah got it?

780
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he visualized it in an LSD trip.

781
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: Oh, because that's how you visualize DNA samples, right, that's

782
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 2: like the whole Yeah.

783
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Francis Crick actually the guy who discovered they

784
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out the structure of the DNA double helix,

785
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: and he had the insight of the double helix shape

786
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: while tripping on LSD and also after reading a bunch

787
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: of research by a woman who had already figured it out.

788
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: Then you just I guess he got a lot of credit,

789
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: tryfe Yeah.

790
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think again, like, it's it's interesting to

791
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: hear this guy Brendan talk about it too, because he's

792
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: all saying, like, this isn't going to solve our society.

793
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: It's not like this is a cure all, but it

794
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: is clear it helps people. He goes and say, quote,

795
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys who end up in these

796
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: movements have a history of doing m d M A. Yeah,

797
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: he's like, but have to have the right framing and mindset,

798
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: because that's the only way you can somehow be somewhat

799
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: open to reconsidering your own ideologies. He said, quote it

800
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: helped me see things in a different way that no

801
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: amount of therapy or anti racist literature ever would have done.

802
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: He still says he struggles with like these beliefs that

803
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: he has, but he's completely like has been able to

804
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: sort of step outside of this like white supremacist ideology

805
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: like oh, this doesn't serve me at all or what

806
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: I want like my life to be. So it's it's

807
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: it's a very like interesting story. I know a lot

808
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: of people, like the Shorthand would be like all right,

809
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: MBMA for like everybody, that that's the thing, But we

810
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: what we it's a it's a combination of things that

811
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: really help you.

812
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: But the version that he did is a clinical like

813
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, under super under medical supervision, and that stuff

814
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: is much harder to do in the United States than

815
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: in other places because to your points are it's been

816
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: demonized and so like that is the thing that it

817
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: can be useful in a society where they're willing to

818
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: just accept what a powerful tool it can be for therapists.

819
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I say, I'm kind of on

820
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: the side of everybody, let's try it, because right now

821
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: a lot of people are doing that with adderall right

822
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: and treating it like the drug that's going to fix

823
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: all my behavioral shit. And I see and I see

824
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: it all the time, and there's so much else that

825
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: adderall does too that is like so detrimental and By

826
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 3: the way, the like myth of the Swiss cheese brain

827
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: is actually like an adderall side effect, not an LSD

828
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 3: NDMA psychedelics side effect. Right.

829
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like.

830
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: A whole propaganda train back in the eighties and nineties.

831
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: So for the way that like we Americans do stuff,

832
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't know, maybe more of us

833
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: should just be like smoking pot and doing m D.

834
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: M ah, it should be. It should be less stigmatized

835
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: unless illegal, for sure. I'm just saying if you're.

836
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: Gonna pick, if you're gonna polarize, rather than going the

837
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 3: route of like cocaine and ad or all in coffee.

838
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: Right, But those help you, Those help you do work.

839
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: Those help you do work.

840
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: And look at all these look at all these phenomenal

841
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 3: scientists that got sh done.

842
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 2: On LSD right right, but piped down about that because

843
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: then you might nothmaceutical. Yeah totally.

844
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: You can see the values of our society based on

845
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: what versus illegal. And yeah, I'm just saying that the

846
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: the legalization and the stigma makes it much harder for therapists,

847
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: Like therapists are afraid of losing their license. It's very

848
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: few people that get access to this type of therapy

849
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: and this type of like official sanctioned, like well designed

850
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: therapy work that this person had had access to. So yeah,

851
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: it just it needs to be destigmatized across the board

852
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: and made more less illegal.

853
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: And just like thinking right about like the unpacking your trauma, right,

854
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: because so many of us we go through shit and

855
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: we just lock it up, we leave it in the

856
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: back of our minds and then wonder why it like

857
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: it ends up festering and affects all their dimensions of

858
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: our relationships and personalized I have nothing to do with

859
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: even that specific event that happened, right, And the power

860
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: of being able to examine that is a huge part

861
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: of having any kind of growth, because most growth is

862
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: not happening because we don't have the ability or the

863
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: openness to reflect on these things we've been through because

864
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: it's so deeply uncomfortable. And it kind of reminded me.

865
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: There's like this recent clip I hate to bring up

866
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson, but he was on Megan Kelly's show, and

867
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: the way he talks about his mother's death, You're like,

868
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: this is exactly what the fuck like goes on with people, right, Like,

869
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna play this because he's so casual about this,

870
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: and I don't like, I understand, like there's a lot

871
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: to do, like his own abandoned issues with his mother,

872
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But hearing someone talk like this,

873
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: you're like, man, motherfucker could use some molly. But anyway,

874
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: this is just like hear him talk just about his mother.

875
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: But you know, our mom was not a fan of

876
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 4: us and was pretty direct about it. And you know

877
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: that's obviously hurts when you're little. But then I realized

878
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: you can't control it. You know, you just can't control it,

879
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: and your mother doesn't like you, Okay, boohoo. You know

880
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 4: it sounds really terrible. And the day it actually happened,

881
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 4: when I got this call, like she's dying and in

882
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 4: this weird little town and set on a farm that

883
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 4: she lived on in southwestern France, and she was basically

884
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: French at this point, spent her life there.

885
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: You should go visit her.

886
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: And so I called my brother and he's like, what, no,

887
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 4: you know, my son's got a soccer game, and I said,

888
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: I feel the same way. I don't know this person,

889
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: and actually this sounds cold or whatever, but I had

890
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: already kind of made my peace with this over many decades,

891
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: over thirty five years, and I didn't fall apart at all.

892
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 4: I went out to dinner. I mean, I felt sad

893
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: for her. I guess I don't know much about her.

894
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: She was an artist, she had shows. Okay, I guess

895
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 4: and and all that, but she wasn't part of my life.

896
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 4: I wasn't part of hers.

897
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: And yeah, this explained so much.

898
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: I didn't fall apart. I just built myself, brick by brick,

899
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: into a horrifying months cross exactly toxic masculinity. So didn't

900
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: fall apart though I didn't consent.

901
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: I put I created a whole set made of wood,

902
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: and I screamed from it.

903
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: Like, Also, did Tucker Carlson just say he's an immigrant?

904
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: Is he French?

905
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: No? No, you're talking about how his mom immigrated to France

906
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: and he's like saying, she's basically French because she.

907
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: Left his mom expatted his mom's.

908
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: A hippie who left them at a very young age

909
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: to like hippie it up and everything.

910
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, at six, his mom was like, you kind of suck, and.

911
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: That's he has that.

912
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Well.

913
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 2: The other thing too, is he's I think he's also

914
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: referencing the fact that later in life his mother hated

915
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: his politics and famously like it was after she passed away. Right,

916
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: she was also an heiress. She had a lot of money. Wow,

917
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: and when she passed no, no, no, Swanson is who was

918
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: his father remarried. Yeah, but when his mother passed her

919
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: estate was it was sort of contentious where the money

920
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: was going, and him and his brother fought her husband

921
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 2: over the money. Despite him being like I don't care

922
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: about her, I've moved on. Him and his brother they

923
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: had a long protracted legal battle over her estate. And

924
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: what happened was later on they found her will in

925
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: a book that she had handwritten, and she had only

926
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: left her Tucker and his brother one dollar each, so

927
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: they got something burn but still like for it's like

928
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: you can tell all of this like pain soirling around,

929
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 2: like you know, yeah, clearly she they had a contentious relationship,

930
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: but he was also like I need that fucking money too.

931
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: It's just the thing that actually, you know, someone else

932
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: talks about their mom like that. Bob Durst, Oh yeah, yep,

933
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: ro Robert Durst, Yep, you said, Bob. That was like,

934
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: hold on, you're kicking it with Bob right.

935
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 3: I mean I did watch that whole documentary.

936
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: Just burping up. Yeah, try having memories of my mother.

937
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, like again, these are you just

938
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: sort of see examples all the time. And I'm not

939
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: trying to lay everything like you know them.

940
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: A lot of sociopaths and psychopaths will cite their relationship

941
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: with their mom as the reason for their behavior.

942
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: Good and I it surely has to do with his

943
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: like very you know, misogynistic worldview.

944
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they don't understand empathy, but they are included

945
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: into pity, right, and so they look that's one of

946
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: the like formative ways that they look to access sympathy.

947
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well look, he wasn't really bummed out by

948
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: it at all. He went to dinner. Okay, Next question, Megan,

949
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: Next question.

950
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 3: That was the biggest It's funny that he like it's

951
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: it's almost an insult to his six year old self

952
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 3: how he responds to it. You know what I mean

953
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 3: is like you now you're going to like tell your

954
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: six year old self that, like you didn't dissociate. You

955
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 3: just weren't bummed out by it at all.

956
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: You know, it did. It did. There's no way it

957
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: didn't but again, hey, fucker, we get it. That's where

958
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: you were forged in like the fires of like a

959
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: art Marvel villain.

960
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: It was truly like it would be two on the

961
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: nose for a Marvel villain, like yeah, yeah, it would

962
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: just be like, all right, that's a little pet. His

963
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: hippie mom let him and then like he hated any money,

964
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: and he like went on TV and was like, my

965
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: mom didn't like me, And I'm fine with that. Well,

966
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: like you know, just like fucking steam rolling over, like

967
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: just a lifetime of pain, I'm fine with that. I

968
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: didn't fall apart. I'm together, fucked solid, all right.

969
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 2: Anyways, all right, look at my wood set.

970
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break to marvel over Tucker's would set,

971
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: and well, we'll be right back. And we're back.

972
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: We're back.

973
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: And Costco has been trending on Twitter for the past

974
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: couple of days after New Mexico state lawmaker Stephanie Lord

975
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: posted a part of a receipt from a recent trip

976
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: to the store slash Time Vacuum Costco. She spent eight

977
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: hundred dollars and blamed Joe Biden just you know, despite

978
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: the fact that he's not I don't think he's been

979
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: a manager at that particular cost Co. But the tweet

980
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: thanks Joe Biden. Seven and ninety nine dollars and thirty

981
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: eight cents for one full cart at Costco with fifty

982
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: eight items, holy shit, and only nine non food items

983
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: like paper towels, plastic bags, trash bags, and razors.

984
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: Is that a Republican man that thinks cost a lot?

985
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, but it's Joe Brandon's fault.

986
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 2: It's Brandon's fault.

987
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: She bought so fifty eight items that that works out

988
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: to an average of fourteen dollars per item, which actually

989
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: makes total sense for a cost Co. Right, fifty eight

990
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: items is a lot of items to buy a car.

991
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: I feel like like she is tetrising all of those.

992
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: Items in that's about three cards. Yeah, yeah, that is

993
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 2: a lot of shit.

994
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Costco is just so like, that's what a

995
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: fifty eight item cost Co trip is what you do

996
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: once a year.

997
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: Hopefully most of them are food items. Is that what

998
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: she's saying?

999
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: No, she said most of them are only five, like

1000
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: non food.

1001
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: Only nine non food right right, right, yeah, most of them,

1002
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: most of them?

1003
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what you buying? What you got a couple

1004
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: of how many rotisty chickens you get? I mean probably

1005
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: not that many miles because I feel like she is

1006
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: not aware of the like good value items at costco either,

1007
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: if she's you know, averaging out fourteen dollars fourteen dollars

1008
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: an item, but right, I don't know, it's just such.

1009
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: And then people were like, yo, that's first of all,

1010
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: like the things you get at cost cover, like lifetime

1011
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: supply of toilet paper. Where's the itemized receipt? Yes, she

1012
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: needs to give us the itemized receipt. I need to

1013
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: see literal fucking receipts, madam.

1014
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: How about you want to bet that's beer and wine.

1015
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't want to show that it's all fucking

1016
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: Kirk signature light beer.

1017
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1018
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: And she responded when people were like, can we see

1019
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: the itemized receipt? Man, she draged and was like triggered

1020
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: progressive left wingers and like, I don't know, this just

1021
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: seems to be we it happens all the time, but

1022
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: just this. It's the same thing with Elon Musk declaring

1023
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: cis gender a slur.

1024
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's like.

1025
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: We're being attacked by by these words. But then when

1026
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: it comes to you know, the hundreds of thousands of

1027
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 1: people who are harassed by actual hate speech every fucking

1028
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: day on Twitter. Ye, he's completely silent. But when it

1029
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: comes to like a descriptor of his you know, the

1030
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: fact that he is cis gender, or that this person

1031
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: who's complaining, who complained to him is sis gender. You know,

1032
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: he's just the most brittle soul on the planet. You know,

1033
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: he's just the softest, most sensitive snowflake. But they they

1034
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 1: have somehow, and I do feel like they've like somehow.

1035
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: Won that argument.

1036
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's changing, but it does feel like the perception

1037
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: you mean, yeah, just that that perception in mainstream popular

1038
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: culture is still that, Like I don't know, people are

1039
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: too sensitive who.

1040
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: Because that's still the status quo, you know, the status

1041
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: quote We're not there, We're everyone. Yeah, we're just not

1042
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 2: there yet. Yeah, where people we all agree that everybody

1043
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: deserves the same amount of respect and autonomy. We're just

1044
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: that's just not the status quo. So because of that,

1045
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: people who are like still fighting for it, like what

1046
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: is this? We're fine, but yeah, it's a I mean again,

1047
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: and also you show you you you let your transphobia show.

1048
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 2: Hardcore when you're like, CIS gender is a slurt. Okay, ful,

1049
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: we get it. Go back to your fucking whatever you

1050
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: fucking do.

1051
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: I don't understand that, like you're biologically who you also

1052
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 3: identify as and you're mad, Yeah.

1053
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: Well you're using it to other means.

1054
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 1: Because you're using that you mean to me by pointing

1055
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: it out in context that I don't like, Oh, I'm sorry.

1056
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 2: Is there a history of oppression for the CIS people

1057
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: of America? Right?

1058
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: This is like the other thing of like, this is

1059
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: why we need MDMA in our water. I've decided I'm

1060
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: all the way there.

1061
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 2: Now.

1062
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 5: We also need to get him interested because he has

1063
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 5: like a like very dumb guy who thinks he's a

1064
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 5: smart guy brain and I feel like we could get

1065
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 5: him really interested in the Titanic.

1066
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: And he also is very confident in his ability to

1067
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: build submersibles. Remember when there was that cave rescue. Yeah,

1068
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: he was like, well, I'm going to bring in this

1069
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: submersible and it's going to save everyone. And people like

1070
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: looked at this submersible and they were like that's not

1071
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna work at all. Like here, we we have to

1072
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: like go through narrow corners and that thing is the

1073
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: size of a fucking Mini Van Bro And yeah that

1074
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: so he I'm just saying there could be some efficiencies

1075
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: between these news stories that have obsessed people over the past.

1076
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: If we could get Elon Musky.

1077
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: Interested them, put them in a submarine.

1078
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm just enjoy it down there, yeah, or being like, yo, Bro,

1079
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: you know what could happen?

1080
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: Bro? You could find Atlantis this ship opened, Homie. I

1081
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: believe in you, Bro, of all the people, I feel

1082
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 2: like you could go to the bottom of Marianna's trench

1083
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: and figure it out, Homie.

1084
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: Deeper than you, Oh, you think it's cool that you've

1085
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: been to space, Jam, Jim Cameron been deeper than everybody

1086
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: the whole world.

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Speaker 2: He's just letting James Cameron that you're gonna let James

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Speaker 2: Cameron like a bitch.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying is all these folks floating around

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Speaker 3: with empty pictures and their mom is mad at him,

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Speaker 3: and they haven't gotten over it, and they don't actually

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Speaker 3: know what being mean means.

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Speaker 2: They are just sad totally. They're very ticklish.

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Speaker 1: They're just scared of anyone touching them. That there's like

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Speaker 1: to stay away from me, just like balled up like

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00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: a fucking fist their whole body and then yeah, you

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Speaker 1: just can't do anything.

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Speaker 3: This is why I roll with the Hamburglar and the

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Speaker 3: Grimace and we mind on each other and we tackle.

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Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Zara, Such a pleasure having you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my goodness.

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Speaker 3: This is the best. This is the best vaginal sendoff. Yeah,

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00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 3: before I launch myself down my canal. Oh yeah, another

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Speaker 3: human being.

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Speaker 1: Just like an ayahuasca. That's if you give birth on

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00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: an ayahuasca, you're actually giving birth to yourself.

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00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: Like that would be wild. Where can people find you?

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00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: Follow you, hear you all that good stuff.

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00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: You can come to my house there you go.

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00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can come to my house, or you know,

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Speaker 3: hack into my phone and watch my birth with me.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Or you can go on Twitter or Blue Sky

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00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 3: and Instagram. I'm at Zara Comedy z A h R

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00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: A c O h E d y pronounced komadi. If

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Speaker 3: you are Jack O'Brien, and well, we'll get out of

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00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 3: some innui together.

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Speaker 2: And we.

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Speaker 3: Wish me luck. Folks, wish me luck out there. When

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Speaker 3: I come to I'm gonna be working on my book.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. Yeah, I want to see that baby.

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00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, everybody watched this. It went viral for a

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00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 3: hot second in like a pocket of young women. But

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00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: like everyone, everyone fourth grade and above needs to watch this. TikTok.

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00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 3: That is a woman putting a ping pong ball inside

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00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: of a balloon. You blow it up and it mimics

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Speaker 3: the baby inside of the uterus.

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Speaker 2: Whoa yes, And.

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Speaker 3: And then as she blows up the balloon, she lets

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01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: the ping pong ball settle at the neck of the balloon.

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01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 3: It closes off the air that's the baby at the

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Speaker 3: base of the cervix. And then she pumps the top

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Speaker 3: of the balloon. This is fabulous. She pumps the top

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Speaker 3: of the balloon. Those are uterine contractions that thin out

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: the neck of the balloon, and that's how you give birth.

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Speaker 3: She gives birth. I did it at home, and I

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01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: popped the balloon twice, which is how you tear.

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01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Like she didn't even have to tie it.

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: It just holds the there.

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01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 3: And then the way she's pressing on the balloon right now,

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Speaker 3: those are contractions, and the contractions actually help you give

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01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: birth to the ping pong ball. You see that. It's phenomenal.

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01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: That's the baby coming out of the vaginal, out of

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01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 3: the cervix and the vaginal canal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the and then the popball just comes flying.

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01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. If you if you push too hard, you tear.

1148
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Speaker 2: That's what a terminal velocity. That's terminal velocity.

1149
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 3: Easy, easy, take it easy.

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Speaker 2: That's so wild because that is such a simple demonstration.

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01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that helps not make so much of

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01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: it abstract. That makes TikTok worth it the whole existence.

1153
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: Jack turns out that woman she's just wearing scrubs. She

1154
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: has no medical Is that real? No, I don't know.

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01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: It's like that's how TikTok is, Like I'm wearing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Miles, where can people find you?

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: Is their working media you've been Yeah yeah, Find me

1159
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: at Miles of Gray, at at based life forms or

1160
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: social media platforms. Find Jack and on our basketball podcast

1161
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: Miles and Jack Got Mad Boost Talking to NBA. But

1162
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: also find me and Sophia Alexandra on our trash reality

1163
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: TV show podcast for Twenty Day Fiance. The reality TV

1164
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: is trash, not the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: I mean it could be trash on It's up to you,

1167
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: I have the beholder and all that, So check that out.

1168
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: Some tweets I'm liking the I got a couple actually.

1169
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: The first one, Sarah at Knight's Gravity tweeted, I'll say

1170
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: I got that dog in me and it's snoopy. Yeah, yeah,

1171
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 2: got that dog in you? And then another one at

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01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: gl D Vittorio tweeted the reason people are having a

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01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: hard time finding sympathy for the submarine passengers is because

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Speaker 2: it isn't a situation that could happen to anyone. No

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Speaker 2: one is afraid of a friend or family member accidentally

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01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 2: spending two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to go crisscross

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01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: apple sauce into the USS Jigsaw. Yeah, it kind of

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01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: feels right.

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01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: It's like such a dark story and yet like also

1180
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: so absurd that like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. The tweet goes on to say, I'm

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01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: not saying it's normal to lack empathy for people we

1183
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: can't relate to. I'm saying psychologically, it isn't instinctive, because

1184
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: this circumstance is so far beyond being a conceivable three

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01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 2: or apprehensible horror on a level past cognitive dissonance toward

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01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: refugees or the poor.

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Speaker 1: There it is, yeah, there, it is all right. You

1188
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. A

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Speaker 1: tweet I've been enjoying a DJ fuck at Eggshell Friends

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01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: tweeted baby on board with what what's he down for?

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: It's on board? What's down for? He's down?

1192
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 3: Hey Jack? Yeah, I'm gonna play a game with you.

1193
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: Open your legs open the.

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01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 3: Narrowly miss your ball.

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Speaker 1: It is like, there needs to be like a jazzy,

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Speaker 1: like nineteen seventies game show theme that comes up when

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01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm gonna narrow yeah, like you said, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna narrowly miss, and then the crowd all goes man, it's.

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Speaker 2: Your today is con contestant is a radio DJ from

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles area named Jack O'Brien. Come on down,

1201
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: You're like, it's price is right where you're like me.

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Speaker 1: Of rundown and just throw my legs open.

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Speaker 2: Are you excited? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore o brian.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're

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01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: at d daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

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Speaker 1: fan page and a website, Daily Zeikeist dot com where

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Speaker 1: we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might

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Speaker 1: enjoy wells. What song do we think people might enjoy it?

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Speaker 2: Uh? This is like some some nice sort of you know,

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01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: new new age housey kind of R and D track

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01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: from the artist Meta m A E t A. And

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Speaker 2: it sounds like it sounds like k trenata type production.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's a K beat, but obviously

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Speaker 2: K tronata style is very popular right now with the

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Speaker 2: you know people like that house sound. And this track

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01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: is called Questions. It's a nice track, good vocals, just

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Speaker 2: a fun upbeat track just to start getting your weekend

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Speaker 2: and going. So check this week go all right? Well.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zeitge is the production of iHeartRadio. For more

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going

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Speaker 1: to do it for us this morning. But we are

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Speaker 1: back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you all then.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye,