1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we're going to talk about 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: the latest news around the Ravens. We had O t 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: a's practice for the media at least number three today, 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: so you saw the players and heard from Rashad Bateman, 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, Isaiah Likely wide receivers coach Greg Lewis. Uh 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: so talk about what they had to say and give 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: you the latest news around the Ravens right now. So, Garrett, 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: uh you weren't here for most of last week. 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: Just that I would I miss one day, I missed 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: one day of OTA. You were here two days, miss 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: one day of OTAs. And it's it's such a big 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: absence that you say I'm not here all week. I 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: mean that that that makes me feel valued. That makes 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 2: me feel really valued that I was that missed at 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: the end of the week. 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: So basically, you don't know what's going on. I'll fill 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: you in. It's been a great start to OTA's you 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: weren't here for it's been miss one day, one day 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: of VTAS. Anyway, all right, fine, well fast forward to today, yes, 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: and talk about kind of who stood out for you, yeah, 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: watching practice today. 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: Look, I think the thing to me that I was 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: most interested in is what was said after practice and 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: the guy who I was excited to hear from, Shan Bateman, 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: and this is this is our first chance to talk 27 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: with him since he signed that contract extension right before 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: the draft, and so there's been a lot of intrigue 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: around him. Coaches have talked about him, other teammates have 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: talked about him and how they expect him to have 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: a really big season. There's a lot of talk around him. 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: But today it was the first chance to hear from him. 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: So he talked about that contract extension, and here's what 34 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: he had to say to that question. 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: Because, for one, I didn't know what was going to 36 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: happen with me. I didn't know if I was gonna 37 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: be here, you know, traded or anything. So, you know, 38 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: distinction definitely came out of nowhere. Blessed for sure. I 39 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: did not see them doing that. But it shows that 40 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: they believe in me, believe in my work, you know 41 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: my ethic. You know, the team believes in me. So 42 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: it was a no brainer. You know, I love playing here, 43 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: I love his organization, I love the fans, So you know, 44 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: I feel like I still got a lot to do, 45 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: so it was a no brainer for me for sure. 46 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: As he said, he felt like there was a no 47 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: brainer to stay here. He's excited to be here. It 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: seemed like there was a lot of uncertainty for him, 49 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: just like fans were speculating about is he going to 50 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 2: get traded. He even said, like, you know, I didn't 51 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: know if I was going to get traded. I didn't 52 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: know the fifth year option situation. But you know that 53 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: was that was out there, like all that stuff was 54 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: like out there, and now this brings clarity to him, 55 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: and I think that that is a big sigh of relief. 56 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that a lot of the things that 57 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: have dogged the early part of Rashat Bateman's career are 58 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: now in the rear view. Miyar Right. Injuries primarily, Yeah, 59 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: that's the biggest one have really hindered him, and he 60 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: finished last season strong. It was he had to work 61 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: through some things early in the year that were difficult, 62 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: come back from the foot injury and all that, and 63 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: had other issues on top of that, and but to 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: finish last year healthy and strong. To go into this 65 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: offseason and have his first healthy off season of training 66 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: was really big and now be thrust into a position 67 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: where he's gonna have a lot more opportunities, you know, 68 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: and and the door is open again for Rashad Bateman. 69 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: The contract stuff, all the stuff that you were just 70 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: mentioning is behind him. Now he knows he's going to 71 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: be here for the next few years. It really just 72 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: feels like, you know, even just talking to him, that 73 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: sort of a weight has been lifted off his shoulders, 74 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: that he's been dragging this for the first three years 75 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: of his career here, not the contract stuff the first 76 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: few years, but that this previous off season, and so 77 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: that's behind him, and he really the road ahead is 78 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: bright for Rishab Bateman and things are lining up for 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: him to really have kind of that breakout season that 80 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: we all know he's capable of having. 81 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty like he's pretty honest guy in a 82 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: lot of ways. And he made the point that like, yeah, 83 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: it was he did kind of have a little bit 84 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: of a woe as me attitude when you deal with 85 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: the injuries your first two seasons. He never was really 86 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: hurt at to sod el. Sudden he comes here and 87 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: he's dealing with some major injuries. He's like, this has 88 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: never happened with why is this happening? He's like, I 89 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: still don't really even know why it happened. But these 90 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: are the cars that I've been dealt, and I was 91 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: in a dark place at times dealing with this stuff. 92 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: I think as a first round pick, you feel that 93 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: pressure too, and you know there was a lot kind 94 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: of on his shoulders and you got to you have 95 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: to deal with with that aspect of things, like the pressure. First, 96 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: there's like the desire to succeed, and that's challenging enough. 97 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: Then you add like the pressure element, real or perceived, 98 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: and like that everyone can respond differently to that. So 99 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: like all these things compounding injuries, uncertainty, and I think 100 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: that like it was challenging, but now, like you get 101 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: the contract done and I think he is going into 102 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: this year like with a real sense of optimism. Now 103 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: you also like he wasn't out here making like bold 104 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: proclamations about I'm going to be a thousand yard receiver. 105 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: I want to be a Pro Bowl receiver, like he 106 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: like he went very far the other direction, not to 107 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: make any bold statements in that regard. He's like, I'm 108 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: doing everything I can I'm playing a receiver. I'm working hard, 109 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: but I'm not making any declarations about what's going to 110 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: happen this year. 111 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: Right, Well, I think he learned last year. You know, 112 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: you can get open and it doesn't necessarily mean you're 113 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: going to get the ball. Now, there were more mouths 114 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: to feed with OBJ being here last year, and that 115 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: was a big reason why Bateman didn't get the ball 116 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: as often. But you know, I think last year taught 117 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: him that lesson that like, okay, you're still not that 118 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: just because things are going well for you doesn't mean 119 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: come game day, you're gonna put up one hundred yards 120 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: a game, you know, Like he can't throw past himself 121 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And that's not to say that 122 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: he's like blaming teammates or coaches for doing anything wrong. 123 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: It's just that's how that's how it works. And so like, 124 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't I think he kind of last year maybe 125 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: taught him to get out of the proclamation business. Not 126 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: that he's ever been a huge I'm gonna do this 127 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: and this and this because of the injuries, you know, 128 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: but like I think he's keeping a level head, level, attitude, 129 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: level perspective when you've been through it the way he has. 130 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: You're not going to go out here thumping your chest 131 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 1: saying this and that and this is what's going to happen. 132 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: I also thought, going back to last week, Todd Munkin 133 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: was shared some good insight into Bateman on two fronts. One, 134 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: I think the headline that most people caught was like, yeah, 135 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: that he needs to get more involved and that's going 136 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: to be a focus and the Rams expect him to 137 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: have a large role in the offense. 138 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: Okay, like that, we've heard that all, We've heard that. 139 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: But I thought the other piece was kind of an 140 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: explanation for why his role was limited last year, and 141 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: I found it kind of be interesting and honest from Munken. 142 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: Basically verside, Baateman got hurt in training camp, was working 143 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: through things early. 144 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: Oh he had the foot surgery before the training camp. Basically, 145 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: they couldn't they couldn't bet ownershop Baitman last year. And 146 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: we've talked about this, like from a health standpoint, you 147 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: couldn't bet on him, Yeah, right, and they bet on 148 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: him the year before that. He got injured early in 149 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: the year and they were way too thin at wide 150 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: receiver and it hurt him that caught. That really hampered 151 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: that year's team. Yeah, right, the twenty twenty guy. Uh yeah, 152 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: it was twenty twenty one Ravens huh right, No, twenty 153 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: twenty two, right, and so that really hurt him there 154 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: thin at wide receiver. Then they went into twenty twenty three, 155 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: you couldn't really bet on Baitman because he had just 156 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: had foot surgery. So you didn't know how long it 157 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: was going to take him to shake off that, what 158 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: level he was going to be at. That's why they 159 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: went out and they signed Odell Beckham junior. They spent money, 160 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: They signed Nelson Aguiler, They drafted z E. Flowers in 161 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: the first round, Like they were like, we're not going 162 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: to make that mistake again. We are not going to 163 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: be shorthanded a wide receiver. Yeah. Now after having a 164 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: healthy season, you know, so to Todd's point, like you 165 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: were saying that, he was basically like, look like the 166 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: guy was hurt at the beginning of training camp, missed 167 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: almost all the summer, missed a large chunk of training camp. 168 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: We had to plug obj in as the X. He 169 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: became our ex receiver. 170 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: That was the thing that was interesting, is like Odell 171 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: Beckham basically became the extra receiver and that was like 172 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: that's really where Rashaw Bateman would play, right And now 173 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: Odell Beckham was playing that role and he was working 174 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: his way back, so like by the time time he 175 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: got back in the mix, like he kind of missed 176 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: the train, like to a certain extent, not entirely, but 177 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: like they had another guy who was playing that role. 178 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: And so, like I know, fans are always interested in, like, 179 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: go get this guy, go get that guy, and your 180 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: point often is like you take to take snaps away 181 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: from players like that kind of is what happened last year. 182 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: The Ravens had back on the team and he got 183 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: he was the starting receiver, he got the he was 184 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: the X guy, And so that pushed Rashad Bateman down 185 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: the death chart, partly by necessity because he was coming 186 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: back from this major injury. But then when people are saying, 187 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: why is he not getting the ball, Well, it's because 188 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: you have Odell Beckham out there. 189 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Right totally, and Zay Flowers is getting a lot of 190 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: targets Mark Andrews and before he got hurt, Isaiah Likely 191 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. 192 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: But Odell thing was a little bit more of a 193 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: one to one. Yes, that's like, this is the guy 194 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: playing the position. That's great, and now he's no longer 195 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: here and now Vershab Batman's going to step into that role. 196 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: That totally And that's why I don't think that they're 197 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: going to go out and sign another veteran wide receiver 198 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: like you keep saying that. I don't think so, because 199 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: they don't want to take again, they don't want to 200 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: take snaps away from Rashie Babman. 201 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to sign a receiver to 202 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: take snaps away. I would I would think it could 203 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: be a depth player basically, someone who's in that Just 204 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: just to be clear here, just to be clear, I 205 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: think that it's more of a depth piece rather than 206 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: a a number one potential starting wide receiver like that. 207 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: Who who's out there in that role? 208 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: For sure, there's not there's not guys. There's not guys. 209 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, so anyway, I think there were Shot Bateman's 210 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: in a good position this year to you know, knock 211 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: on wood. He's got to stay healthy again, you know, 212 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: he's got to continue to stay healthy. But if Shot 213 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: Batman stays healthy and he's had a full off season 214 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: in training and he has practiced a lot of practice 215 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: reps under his belt in the comfort level with Lamar 216 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Then, like, I think he's going 217 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: to put up some numbers this year for sure, and 218 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: the opportunities, you know, don't minimize that. And he's going 219 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: to have the opportunities. He's gonna put up some numbers. 220 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: He's a talented dude. And you see the explosion. You 221 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: see all that good stuff, the hands, all that good 222 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: stuff from Rashade. Batman catches over the middle today, you know, 223 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: some tough catches in that kind of middle zone part 224 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: of the field. So I think that Bateman can be 225 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: a big time player for this offense. And really you 226 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: look across the board and Rashat or Lamar Jackson, I 227 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: think has maybe the best compliment of targets that he's 228 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: had or and slash weapons that he's had in his 229 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: career around him this year. I mean, when you're talking 230 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry upgraded over last year's running backs, you're talking 231 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely in year three. I feel a lot better 232 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: about his potential this year than I did going into 233 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: last year. And what he can do. You don't have OBJ, 234 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: but you have a healthy Bateman. 235 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: Right I mean it's the same core, but a Derrick 236 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: Henry and subtract. 237 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: Right and likely is better in year three than year two. 238 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 2: Right and and Bateman should be better in the year 239 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: four than year three coming off he Andrey. So I 240 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: think that you can make the case. I think Derrek 241 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: Henry is a probably the biggest piece of that equation. 242 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: That's a big piece absolutely figuraily and literally, Yes. 243 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's I think we'll see. I mean, to 244 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: be honest, we were all saying the same thing last year. 245 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, well last year was also the best to 246 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: that point of Lamar's career. Like they've just done a 247 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: better job of putting weapons around Lamar in recent seasons 248 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: than they had previously. Yeah, I think that, but I 249 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: think this year's unit probably tops last year. So, I mean, 250 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: obj isbj the star power and all that, but like 251 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: at that point of his career. 252 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he didn't put up the numbers 253 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: last year that that when we were having these conversations 254 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: a year ago that we expected, like the numbers the 255 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: production last year from Odell did not match the conversation 256 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: we were having at this time. 257 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: A year you're always had, you know, the number always 258 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: was bowling. 259 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, two guys, you just this is 260 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: a good kind of jumping off point is Mark Andrews 261 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 2: and Isaiah Likely. We talked about Isaiah Likely and him 262 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: being better in this year. I think that the possibility. 263 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: I'm just really excited about the possibility of getting Mark 264 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 2: Andrews and Isaiah Likely on the field together. Didn't see 265 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: it much last year. Of course, Mark went down with 266 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: the injury, then Isaiah Likely emerged, and now you're going 267 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: through this year, and in my mind, it's like, you 268 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: gotta find ways to get both these players on the field. 269 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: They're just so good, they're mismatched problems. Mark Andrews spoke 270 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: about that pretty clearly today, Isaiah Likely as well, And 271 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: just the way that they can stress defenses. You don't 272 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: know if it's runner pass when they're on the field, 273 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: because they're both really good all around tight ends and 274 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: it can just create problems for defenses that I think 275 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: the Ravens will and should look for ways to exploit 276 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: defenses with Mark and Isaiah on the field together. 277 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it's not something that we've seen happen a 278 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: lot here in Baltimore like that, even when both were 279 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: healthy the Ravens weren't really running. There wasn't a time 280 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: when both those guys were really feasting. They just did 281 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: not run a lot of two tight end Mark and 282 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: Isaiah too much success. You know, they didn't do it 283 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: often and they didn't have a ton of success with it. 284 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: But I think that that's certainly going to change. I 285 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: think that's probably a big part of what Todd Munkin 286 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: has spent in his offseason thinking about Todd has definitely 287 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: had success with that. He had at Georgia. You know, 288 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: two tight ends both thrived in that offense. Like so 289 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: it's not like he doesn't know how to do that. 290 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: I think that certainly last year was a unique example 291 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: of early in the year, like we were saying, you 292 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: didn't really know how big a weapon Isaiah likely was 293 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: going to be in this offense. He had that came 294 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: on the lounge and talked about that drop he had 295 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: against the Colts in overtime. That just haunted him in 296 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: that loss, and you know, he kind of got a 297 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: little bit buried earlier in the year. And then when 298 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: Mark went down, you're like, oh my god, this guy 299 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: came on like gangbusters. Like now you go into the 300 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: year three of Isaiah Likely's to your point saying we 301 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: have to see more Isaiah Likely. He's just that good, 302 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: and I couldn't agree more. I think that's definitely one 303 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: of the twists that we're gonna see in year two 304 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: under Todd Market. Yeah. 305 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: Like, of course, Greg Roman when he was the offensive 306 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: coordinator here was much more of a multi tight end 307 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: set that was kind of his his forte. Yeah, but 308 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: I do think earlier in Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrew's 309 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: career they did I think it's kind of similar potentially 310 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: to the way they used Mark Andrews and Hayden Hurst, 311 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: you know, earlier in their careers, when Hayden was still here, 312 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: Like hay Hayden was a he was an athletic, still big, 313 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: still rugged, but like he was a good receiving threat 314 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: as well, even though Mark was getting the bulk of 315 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: the carries or the bulk of the targets. I just 316 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: think that that might be the the blueprint to a degree. 317 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, blueprint. 318 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, Like they are different players, I 319 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: think Hayden Hurst and Isiamic they are different players, but 320 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: I think that like the way that the Ravens used 321 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: those two guys, I thought was creative, and I think 322 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: that that could serve as some model for how we 323 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: see marking. 324 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: The question here off around your personnel, right, and so 325 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: last year, certainly, you know when you had Zay Obj 326 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: and Bateman, right, you were like, all right, let's go 327 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: three wide. You know, let's go three wide, Like we 328 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: want to get Baitman Bateman's getting open. We want to 329 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: get them opportunities and targets. Got to get them on 330 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: the field. You're going three wide. And and so that's 331 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: how they were. They were kind of loaded it what 332 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: and not to mention Nelly, they had a lot of 333 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: good wide receivers. This year, again, I think they have 334 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: good wide receivers, but you subtract Obj. But you say, 335 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: all right, maybe we're not going three wide quite as much, 336 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: but we're gonna utilize likely more. We're gonna get used 337 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: two more, two tight end sets. 338 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: It'll be I'm curious, like, at the end of the season, 339 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: what the target differential looks like between Mark and Isaiah. 340 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: Mark is gonna lead it. This is assuming that everyone 341 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: stays healthy. But I'm just like, does he get is 342 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: it seventy to thirty? Is it sixty to forty? Like 343 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: the target share between them, Like I just I just 344 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: really wonder because likely came on so strong and and 345 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: I think, as we're both talking about here, like you 346 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: want to find ways to get both those guys to 347 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: the ball. And Mark Andrews today talked about how he's 348 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: maybe more motivated than ever, like having the game taken 349 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: away from him last year, not being able to play. 350 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: This is a guy that you have to drag him 351 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: off the practice field, and not being able to play 352 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: the second half of the season killed him last year. 353 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: So he is super motivated, super hungry going into this year, 354 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: and he wants to Basically, I think Mark is one 355 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: of those guys that like finds any. 356 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Sliver of motivation anyway. 357 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: He can be motivated, any slight, anything that he can 358 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: use as a motivation. Like he's one of those type 359 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: of guys. And so like I'm sure he's going into 360 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: this year saying like I'm here to prove to everybody 361 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: that I'm still one of the best tight ends of 362 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: the game. I know he got hurt last year, but like, 363 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: don't forget about me. I'm still that guy. And I'm sure. 364 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: He's you know, I don't think it's as much about 365 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: that that he just wants to win really badly. 366 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: He does. 367 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean when you look at these Ravens teams under 368 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson during the Lamar Jackson era, they just haven't 369 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: gotten over the hump. I mean that's been the that's 370 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: been there, kind of cross the bear. Right, It's like 371 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: they've been really good teams. Last year, the best team 372 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: in the league, blowing people out, blowing the forty nine 373 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: ers out, blowing Dolphins out down down the stretch, didn't 374 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: make didn't get to the Super Bowl twenty nineteen. Best 375 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: team in the league fell short. Yeah. Right, That's been 376 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: the story of the Lamar Jackson Ravens. Ultimately, when you 377 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: come down to it, is really really good, but not 378 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: good enough to beat the Titans, not literally, but the 379 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs and the best teams in the league they fallen short. 380 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: It's the facts. And that's been the Mark Andrews era. 381 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: You know, his era has been the Lamar Jackson era. 382 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 383 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: And so, like you talk about dudes who want to 384 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: win at all, guy who have that drive and that passion, 385 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: put Mark Andrews nearer at the top of the list. 386 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: Passionate dudes who just want to win. 387 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's you know, it's kind of crazy. 388 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: We're talking about Mark Andrews getting older and now he's 389 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: going into year seven, I know, and like he talked 390 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: about it today and I think the point is, like 391 00:17:59,280 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: I think. 392 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: You reckon guys is like clocks ticking yep. 393 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: And how special like the team and the core that 394 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: the Ravens have, and like he wants to do everything 395 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: he can to help his team get to get over 396 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: the home yep. 397 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely absolutely all right. So we'll take a quick break. 398 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll give you some other thoughts 399 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 2: from OTAs and what we heard from the guys here today. 400 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Lounge Podcast. We're coming to you 401 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: from the Sea Geek Studio. We also want to give 402 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: a shout out to our friends at DraftKings Sportsbook. They 403 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: are an official sports betting partner of the Ravens. They've 404 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: got a limited time off for running that you don't 405 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: want to miss. Download the Draft Kings Sportsbook at today. 406 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: Use the promo code flock. 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One item was from Isaiah Likely and 415 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: he was talked about he was asked about Trenton Simpson 416 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: and he's, you know, lines up against Isaiah Likely at times. 417 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: And Isaiah pointed out that he got me in a rep. 418 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: You guys saw it out there today. He beat me, Yeah, 419 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: broke up a pass and you know, kind of flying around, 420 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: and he said that he looks like Trenton Simpson, looks 421 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: like he's ready for the opportunity. And I thought that 422 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: that was kind of a telling statement from Isaiah Likely, 423 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: who's going up against him, Like when your teammates realize 424 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: that you are, that you've dedicated yourself in the off season, 425 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: you look like you're ready to take a next step. 426 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: I think that that is a kind of the ultimate 427 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: compliment and it's encouraging to see that and hear that 428 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: from Trenton Simpson about Trenton Simpson. 429 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Trenton Simpson looks he's gotten off to 430 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: a good start here in OTAs and obviously in a 431 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: very important position, stepping into the the presumed, the expected starter, 432 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: stepping into Patrick Queen's vacated spot. He and Isaiya mentioned it, 433 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: and it looked that way to me just on the 434 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: eye test, that Trenton Simpson's added some He's added some muscle. 435 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: He's bigger dude, And kind of to what Isaiah was 436 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: saying is he seems to be playing faster. We know 437 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: he's fast, we know he's very athletic. Yeah, but he's 438 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: playing faster. I mean last year, I think as a rookie, 439 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: you saw him he's a very conscientious guy, very dedicated, 440 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: serious about his work, like didn't want to make mistakes. 441 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: There's some hesitation that kind of thing. And now I 442 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: think you see him playing more with his instincts, letting loose, 443 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: playing fast, and you see his full range of skills. 444 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: And to isa his point, you see that that Steelers 445 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: game last year wasn't a fluke either way. He finished 446 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: the regular season with a really big game, starting that game, 447 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: and he had two pass breakups in today's practice. I 448 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: thought he was one of the practice standouts from today. 449 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: Another note that I had was from Greg Lewis, wide 450 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: receivers coach, and I asked him about Malee Cunningham now 451 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: Mille Cunningham, just a listeners, no college quarterback at Louisville. 452 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: The Ravens signed him late last season. He was on 453 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: the Patriots. They signed him late in the year. And 454 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: it's like, is he a quarterback? Is he a wide receiver? 455 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: He's basically working with a wide receiver, so he's not 456 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: he's not taking snaps a quarterback. He's a wide receiver. 457 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver. Now I mean he's he was 458 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback on the roster that has been changed now 459 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: to wide receiver. 460 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's he's not wearing the black jersey anymore 461 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: of practice. Like he is a wide receiver. And you know, 462 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: he's a super talented athletic guy. Greg Lewis talked about 463 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: like how his athleticism is really off the charts and 464 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: like he's a worker. He's doing anything that he can 465 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 2: to to take that next step. And he also has 466 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 2: a good feel for the game just from his experience 467 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: as a quarterback, so he knows where to find the 468 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: saft swat on the zone. He knows what the quarterbacks seeing. Yeah, 469 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by Malie Conningham like he's getting. He's getting 470 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: a lot of reps out there. 471 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's an interesting story totally the least. 472 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: I mean, he'd go from college quarterback to the NFL 473 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: wide receiver. So you know, some guys have made that 474 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: that transition successfully, most of him playing up in New England, 475 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: but you know that's rare and uh, I think certainly 476 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: he has a tough hill to climb if he's gonna 477 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: make the Ravens fifty three man Ross, you know, I 478 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: mean Tolm Wallace had made some catches today too and 479 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: is a much more established wide receiver. 480 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: He would have to beat him out that Wily Cunningham 481 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: would have to be I mean on Wallas most. 482 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: Likely, most likely, and that's gonna be tough. Yeah, or 483 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: Deontay Hardy. You know, Deontay Hardy wouldn't make the team. 484 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: I mean more, I think, you know, practice squad. Can 485 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: can he land a spot on the practice squad? That's 486 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: I think a realistic game for him. I mean, he's 487 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: going to compete for the fifty three, but like it's 488 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: probably more likely that he would end on the practice 489 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: squad land on the practice squad where and maybe his 490 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: versatility gives you offers you a little bit more in 491 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: your practice squad. Is just a scout team player and 492 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: all that. 493 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think gets I mean it's early, but 494 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: I kind of think if he's an option to put 495 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 2: on your practice squad, he's kind of a no brainer. 496 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: He kind of an ideal player. And he had a 497 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: good practice on Thursday, caught several balls. I mean, he 498 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: was pretty active catching the ball and looked very you know, natural, 499 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: and he does not want I look at him. 500 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: He does not look out of place as well. 501 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: No, he doesn't, he doesn't at all. 502 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: So that's why I'm intrigue. 503 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: Who's that guy? Yeah, like a quarterback, running wide receiver. 504 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: Seriously, he does not look like that at all. Looks 505 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: good and so I'm I'm intrigued by him, and I 506 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: think that, you know, he looks he still got a 507 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: long way to go, but he's a guy that I'm 508 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: gonna have my eye on over the course of these 509 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: spring practices and in training camp. 510 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, somebody else that really stood out to me 511 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: in this practice I thought this the story of Tuesday's 512 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: practice was a da away. He was wrecking shop. He was, 513 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: he was just he just kind of blew up the practice. Yeah, 514 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: from a defensive standpoint, And uh yeah, I mean makes 515 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: picking up that fifth year option look better, you know. 516 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean he's making it look better and better in 517 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: practice here it already looked good. And uh but I 518 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: think that there's certainly questions about the Ravens past rush 519 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: going into this year, and after you lead the league 520 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: in sex a year ago. Can you do plicate where 521 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: have I heard this before? 522 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: You mean, no, no, no, I'm just saying, like the questions 523 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: about the Ravens pass rush. 524 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, all off season last year and then 525 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: they led. Yeah, Now you don't have Javian Clowney who 526 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: led the team in sacks, and so they are relying 527 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: on that adap Aoway to take the next step. You're 528 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: relying certainly on David Ajabo to take kind of his 529 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: first step. But Odafe looks like he's up to the task. 530 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: He does he he was. It was a great mix 531 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: of speed. He's coming off the left side, off the 532 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: right side, and he was blowing by the tackles like 533 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: the guy is. 534 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: Not what you want exactly from the tackles. 535 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, you prefer you prefer not to have that. 536 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: I kind of wo like him to have a good practice, 537 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: but not maybe that great a practice. 538 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understood. I think you know, I think with Oway, 539 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: like he's really good in this in this setting, Like 540 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: his athleticism is off the charts, and I think that 541 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: like he is, he's going to be in position where 542 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: the Ravens are relying on him in a in a 543 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: huge way. And if he can, if he can do 544 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: in games what he did in today's practice, he is 545 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: going to be a guy that everybody in the league 546 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: knows in his game plan stop. Yeah, he's going to 547 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: be a huge talking point. I mean he was dominant, 548 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: dominant on the field today. 549 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Another outside linebacker that I thought had a strong 550 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: day Tavius Robinson. Somebody you know, I've been talking about 551 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: Tavius like he looks good. I think he's in really 552 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: good shape. He's one of those guys you often talk 553 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: about from rookie year to sophomore season. There's just a 554 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: physical transformation that happens in the NFL. You've seen it 555 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: time and time again, and Tavias checks that box like 556 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: of the second year players. Trenton Simpson's another where you say, yeah, 557 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: he looks different. Tavius is that dude, And he was 558 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: getting some nice pass rushes going on too in today's practice. 559 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: I mean, look, he was kind of a raw player 560 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: when the Ravens drafted him, but physically gifted, big, big guy, strong, physical, 561 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: high motor. Like he is somebody who I wrote down 562 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: like in my notes like five times in practice, similar 563 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: to a Dafe Oway. I thought those two guys were probably, 564 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: in my mind, like the two best defensive players. I 565 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: thought he was disruptive, he was getting into the backfield. 566 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 2: I really like what I've seen from him, both from 567 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: a pass rush standpoint and from a run defense standpoint. 568 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: I think this he's somebody that, like we have really 569 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: spent no time talking about in the outside linebacker, really 570 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: defensive the defensive rotation, like when you talk about pass 571 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: rush and questions about the pass rush and losing Clowney 572 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Like I'm not gonna sit here 573 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: and make this proclamation that like you don't need to 574 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: worry about losing Clowny because you got Tavis Robinson ready 575 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: to step in. But like he's somebody who I think 576 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 2: that nobody is talking about, and he looks really good 577 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: out here in spring practice. 578 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: I completely agree. I mean, when you look back at 579 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: last year's rookie class, outside of Za Flowers, Tavus Robinson, 580 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: did he have the most steps. I mean, he certainly 581 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: got a lot more than Trent and Simpson. Yeah, it 582 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: was the third round pick. Davis Drumson was a fourth 583 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: round pick. 584 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: Huh. Yeah, and obviously they didn't have a second round 585 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: pick that was That was Roquema Smith exactly. 586 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: So he got a lot of very valuable experience last 587 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: year playing as a rookie. And yeah, he's kept that 588 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: rolling forward. 589 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he could be a guy that, like 590 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: by the season when the seasons all said and done, 591 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: that you're like, man, this guy took a big step. 592 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: I think that he has that potential. 593 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: Yep, totally agree. 594 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: So we get another chance to check out practice on Thursday. 595 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: That's another open session to the media. Also, that's another 596 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: day where we get a chance to hear from the players. 597 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: If you want to hear the full press conferences from 598 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: Mark Andrews, Isaiah Likely, Rashan Bateman, and Greg Lewis, which 599 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: all happened today, head over to the Ravens press Pass 600 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: podcast feed. Those are posted there and their entirety. Make 601 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: sure you leave a rating and a review here on 602 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 2: this feed and on that one as well. Thank you 603 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: so much for listening, and we will be back with 604 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: you later this week.