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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the solid verbol, boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: name is ty hilden Brandt. That fine gentleman over there

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Speaker 1: is always the monster of the midway, Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm not bad, Tye, I'm not bad.

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Speaker 1: I went into the city yesterday for a lunch. I

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Speaker 1: I'm a very strange runner. I've talked about this on

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Speaker 2: So I'm out there as people are just leisurely riding

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Speaker 2: come on. Life is good.

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Speaker 2: But the Washington pass defense was incredible without a good

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Speaker 2: pass rush. Is this a half of a half team?

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Speaker 1: It's quarter team. Yeah, we've got a quarterton team or something. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 1: eighth of a team. Here is the book on Washington.

441
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Speaker 1: Washington came into the season with a lot of acclaim.

442
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Speaker 1: I remember doing a preview Washington. Whenever we did it,

443
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Speaker 1: when was that July, last July something like that, we

444
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Speaker 1: were holding up I have it here behind me. I

445
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: was holding up the Phil Steele preview magazine, and Washington

446
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: was one of his surprise teams.

447
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Speaker 3: That's the thing that he does.

448
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Speaker 1: He was all in a Washington. They got a lot

449
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Speaker 1: coming back. Jimmy Lake knows how to coach defense.

450
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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah.

451
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Speaker 1: Well it didn't work out. Predictions don't always work out.

452
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to hold that against Phil Steele, but

453
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Speaker 1: right it was something that I frequently pointed out throughout

454
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Speaker 1: the course of the year because Washington was bad. Washington

455
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Speaker 1: was eighty third in the SP plus they were the

456
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Speaker 1: epitome at least of a half team, maybe of a

457
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Speaker 1: quarter team by your definition, but one oh one in

458
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Speaker 1: terms of their offensive sp plus efficiency, forty fifth in

459
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Speaker 1: terms of defense. Yeah, second order wins five point two.

460
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Speaker 1: So maybe the record wasn't quite indicative of this team,

461
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Speaker 1: but it was close enough. This team had to deal

462
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Speaker 1: with the Jimmy Lake thing. There was strife around Jimmy Lake.

463
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake got fired after a week eleven loss to

464
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Speaker 1: Arizona State. For the rest of the season, pretty much,

465
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Speaker 1: I should say, the entire season. This is the story

466
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Speaker 1: of the defense. I think, to your point, playing pretty

467
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Speaker 1: damn well, you're good enough stopping big plays. They're really

468
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Speaker 1: good against the pass, maybe not so much against the run.

469
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Speaker 1: That's why Michigan beat him by twenty one, But we

470
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Speaker 1: can talk about that if we want. On offense, though,

471
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Speaker 1: they just they didn't have any playmakers. If I said

472
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Speaker 1: to you, no, who were Washington's playmakers, how do you

473
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Speaker 1: answer that question? On offense?

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Speaker 2: Uh, they're offensive tackles like I don't like. I'm no,

475
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 2: Kate Otton was good, a very good tight end, but yeah,

476
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Speaker 2: otherwise no, but no, they went they went Torrell buying

477
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Speaker 2: them left. Yeah, they went three.

478
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Speaker 1: And out A Ton ninety ninth in the nation in

479
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Speaker 1: terms of three and out percentage. So the offense was

480
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Speaker 1: not good when it was out there. Yeah, the passing

481
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Speaker 1: game we talked about this a little bit before we

482
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Speaker 1: hit record, just didn't really have much in the way

483
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Speaker 1: of downfield threats, right.

484
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Speaker 3: That hurt them.

485
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Speaker 1: We should have known something was off when they lost

486
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Speaker 1: in Week one to Montana, which is a callback to

487
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Speaker 1: what we said before about losing FCS teams. They lost

488
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Speaker 1: to the Grizz.

489
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Speaker 3: Grizz is a good.

490
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Speaker 2: FCS team, But come on, this is Washington counterpoint. Counterpoint,

491
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Speaker 2: Why you got to bring up old stuff? Ty, We

492
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: are in a new era of Washington football. So this

493
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: is our first team where everything has been overhauled. Correct

494
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: hire Klin de boor their new coordinators. I mean, so

495
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Speaker 2: Washington is essentially all in on the Fresno staff, which

496
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Speaker 2: is I'm sure was part of his hiring. He was

497
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Speaker 2: he had the ability to say because there were reports

498
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Speaker 2: that Washington was sort of not getting a ton of

499
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Speaker 2: enthusiasms from some of the bigger names in the coaching world,

500
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Speaker 2: and so Kaylen de Bor had some leverage and he's

501
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring my coordinators in Washington said, all right,

502
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: so Washington's all in on Fresno ball. They tried to

503
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: get Jake Hayner, but obviously that didn't work out, so

504
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: Washington is into the kaylend bor era. It is unclear

505
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: but not promising in terms of what they're going to

506
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Speaker 2: do on the recruiting trail, because they are a program

507
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Speaker 2: that is has site set on keeping up with USC

508
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: and Oregon on the trail, and of course Utah in

509
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: the win column, and Utah has been recruiting better and

510
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: better for sure. So they I think are going to

511
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Speaker 2: improve from a play to play competence quotient kind of perspective,

512
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Speaker 2: just because I think Kaylen de Borr is a very

513
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: much seasoned head coach who has an eye for assistant

514
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Speaker 2: and playing talent. The question is can you do that

515
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: only finding your guys right, Because Chris Peterson was able

516
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: to recruit on a high level, Sark was able to

517
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: recruit on a high level. You know, they notably bring

518
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Speaker 2: in Michael Pennix, who kalender War has the experience with

519
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: from Indiana at quarterback. You know, bring in the new

520
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: Mexico running back transfer who's promising, but they lose a

521
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: healthy amount of guys to the portal, especially on defense,

522
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Speaker 2: and so what does that roster look like, not just

523
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Speaker 2: this season whatever, but these next three years? What is

524
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: the recruiting strategy, What is the retention strategy? What does

525
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: the portal guys coming in strategy look like for the Huskies?

526
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Speaker 2: Because I don't know. I think budgetarily couldn't be a word,

527
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 2: but maybe it is. I don't know if Washington necessarily

528
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: has the budget to go out and make big hires

529
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Speaker 2: or load up that staff in a place where it's

530
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Speaker 2: costly to live, you know, the recruiting staff, the analysts,

531
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: all that kind of thing. So like Washington has an

532
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: uphill battle in state talents decent, But man, I'm curious

533
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: to see what that that big picture strategy looks like

534
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: come twenty twenty five.

535
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it also should be pointed out. Maybe it's the

536
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: elephant in the room. John Donovan was the offensive coordinator. Correct,

537
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: John Donna on to the budget thing. Yeah, so like

538
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: I think on some level, just get rid of him

539
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: and go in the direction whatever direction Kaylin de board

540
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: decides to go, that will be better.

541
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Speaker 3: Than where they were under him.

542
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure John Donaland's a nice guy. He's just

543
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: not a good coordinator, and so they're gonna get better

544
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: on offense. The question is after you kind of sand

545
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: off the rough edges and get things nice and tight

546
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: and get them to the point where fundamentally they're they're

547
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: more sound than they've been. Yeah, to what degree can

548
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: you elevate the program? To what degree can you get

549
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: above seven, five, eight and four after you do that, which, yeah,

550
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: you would assume Washington can get to before long. It's

551
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: that kind of place. But elevating the program to the

552
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: point where they're like contending, that's that's going to be

553
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Speaker 1: I think the the interesting question for Kaitlin debor how

554
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Speaker 1: can he do that? How can he elevate?

555
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: I think you nail the numbers exactly seven and a

556
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: half eight wins without recruiting on a high level, without

557
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: you know, producing top three in the PAC twelve classes.

558
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Year and year out.

559
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, is doable. You can do that.

560
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: It's going to be a question of acquisition and retention.

561
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: And unclear to me right now that that that this

562
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: is a Washington program serious about acquiring and retaining on

563
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: that level. Next program, Yeah, gutted to the stud's highest ceiling.

564
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Speaker 1: In the in the grouping that we have got to

565
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: be USC, right, it's USC. Yeah, Yeah, it's either USC

566
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: or RICE, and I don't I think it's Rice. Yeah,

567
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: of course, Yeah, your sister programs USC and RICE. Look,

568
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: they go four and eight for a reason. The defense

569
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: is a nightmare. They fire Clay Hilton a couple games

570
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: into the season. He's now at Georgia Southern. We know everything.

571
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: With Lincoln Riley now coming in, A ton of players leave,

572
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: I think, the most notable being Jackson Dart.

573
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: A ton of interesting players come in.

574
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: Most notably Caleb Williams, followed by Mario Williams, followed by

575
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: Travis Dye from Oregon Like. There are a lot of interesting,

576
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: especially offensive players that have come into this program. Offense

577
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: not necessarily the biggest problem, but.

578
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: Losing who they do. Keaton Slovas makes his way to PITT.

579
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Speaker 1: I believe.

580
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: Recruiting should be gangbusters. This is a team that if

581
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: all clicks, if all works out, especially on defense, team

582
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: will be contending for a playoff spot in a few years.

583
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: I think it'll take some time, but I am exceedingly

584
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: curious about where USC goes from here. A lot of

585
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: inc has been spilled over how USC got to the

586
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: point where they were four and eight and firing their

587
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: coach a couple games into the season. But if you're

588
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: a USC fan right now listening to the show in April,

589
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: it's all puppy dogs and rainbows, right.

590
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, oh my god.

591
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: And I mean evidence enough of this, not just the

592
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: I think optimism on the USC side, but also on

593
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma side. Whenever we post a video on YouTube,

594
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: whenever anybody does anything, yeah, whenever we post a video

595
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: specifically for us on YouTube that references Lincoln Riley or USC,

596
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: it does better than all the other videos. And I

597
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: think it's because people care, people are interested in this story.

598
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: It was really the first big domino to fall in

599
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: the coaching carousel after Lincoln Riley decided to go westward.

600
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: We had the news come out about Brian Kelly. I

601
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: think like the next day or so. I mean, it

602
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: moved pretty.

603
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: Quickly, and.

604
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Speaker 1: I think everybody is very curious here, curious to see

605
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: how quickly he can build them up. There seems to

606
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: be an assumption that he will sure, and I was

607
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: hoping maybe we could unpack that a little bit, because

608
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: USC finds itself in an interesting spot. I think you're

609
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: right to say that recruiting is going to be very solid.

610
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: Recruiting's already been very solid. No, it's going to be

611
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: very very very very very good. It's going to be

612
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: very good. It's already been good. He's worked the portal,

613
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: I think masterfully. People just want to play for this guy.

614
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: But the point that you've raised that.

615
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: I've seen others raise in the past is that USC,

616
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: at least in twenty twenty two, is going to be

617
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: better on the top line when it comes to talent,

618
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: but building up depth, getting to the point where they've

619
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: got the fundamentals taken care of, especially on defense, doing

620
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the little stuff that maybe doesn't make

621
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: the headlines. That's going to take a while. Do you

622
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: still feel that way? Yeah, yeah, I am. Look, there's

623
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: not a lot standing in USC's way within the PAC twelve.

624
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: I think there is a pretty wide chasm between where

625
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: USC currently is and where the best of college football

626
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: is now. Maybe it's being closed because of Caleb Williams's ceiling.

627
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: We know what Caleb Williams' floor looks like, and it's

628
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: not super attractive, but he was a freshman. It's fully

629
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: expected that you have those down moments. Sure, No, I

630
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: think USC is going to be a good program, and

631
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to need to see some things from an

632
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: Alex Grinch defense that like, we're getting further and further

633
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: away from that one good season at Wazoo, and I'm

634
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: going to need to see what offensive and defensive line

635
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: recruiting looks like nationally or how well they go into

636
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't know Arizona or Nevada or Texas or any

637
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: of these places, because I just don't see a lot

638
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: of it on the West Coast. I have to recruit

639
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: nationally on those levels, and USC I think we'll do

640
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: all right on the defensive line on the West Coast.

641
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I still think that if they

642
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: were to play tomorrow against Utah on a neutral field,

643
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would feel good about USC

644
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: right Like, they're not even the they're not the class

645
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: of their own division now at the moment, at the moment,

646
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: So I just I think it's almost unfair to Lincoln

647
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: Riley and the players and the coaches on this USC,

648
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: in this USC program to put any sort of expectations

649
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: on them in year one. But such as the nature

650
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: of the college football beast, it will happen. I should

651
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: point out the SPPLUS numbers just before we put a

652
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: bow on this thing here. USC eighty second in the

653
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: sp plus, almost the opposite of what we saw at Washington.

654
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: So they had firepower on offense. They weren't very consistent,

655
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: but forty fifth sp plus ranking on offense, one hundred

656
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: and six on defense. The defensive side of that is

657
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: I think what we're going to watch most closely. Of

658
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: course they're gonna be big names on offense, but the

659
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: question is going to be, as he said, can Alex

660
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: Grinch find a way to get this defense playing better?

661
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: He has done that in spots right. He has a

662
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: bit of a track record for improving defenses. But I think,

663
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: as we saw at Oklahoma, it's a matter of can

664
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: he sustain that.

665
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: We saw the Oklahoma defense in the COVID year once

666
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: Ronie Perkins came, it was pretty exciting and interesting.

667
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: For sure, we'll see.

668
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: That's been the rub though for USC.

669
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: The rub for USC has been and I remember, I

670
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: don't know if it was Bruce or if it was

671
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: Andy or somebody wrote an article about one of those

672
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: deals where they go around and they talk to opposing coaches,

673
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: it was probably Bruce he does that a lot, yea.

674
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: And what they flagged about USC was the fact that

675
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: Drake Jackson was the best player out there, and outside

676
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: of him.

677
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: A bunch of guys.

678
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh the defense, the defense, yeah, yeah, on defense, and

679
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: outside of Drake Jackson, it was a bunch of guys

680
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: who played pretty soft. And what's notable about that is now,

681
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: looking forward at Drake Jackson's NFL scouting profile, everybody says

682
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: he's very athletic, he's good, but he's soft. So if

683
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: the best player on an already soft defense, the NFL

684
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: is saying is soft, I don't know. It doesn't say

685
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: much about what the previous regime was doing on that

686
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: side of the football.

687
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, or what the culture of West Coast high school

688
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: football is. I don't know, but it's a different place

689
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: that is going to you know, I do not think

690
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: it is plug and play plug in a playoff coach

691
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: who has developed these quarterbacks. I think it's going to

692
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: take a lot of work to get USC to be

693
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 2: a perennial ten to eleven win program. I think it's

694
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: even in a downpack twelve. I think with Utah rising,

695
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: no pun intended with Washington surely getting better whatever that means.

696
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: No idea what Oregon's going to be. The UCLA just

697
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: blew him out, so you have to consider UCLA at

698
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: least decent. Arizona is improving, Asus falling.

699
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: Off a cliff.

700
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: All apologies to Sun Devil fans. Hopefully it gets better

701
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. But I still think it's going

702
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: to be tricky for US see and the good news

703
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: is though USC I don't believe and I keep saying

704
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: this when in reference to it, but I don't think

705
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 2: they have anybody tricky. I mean, they'll always have Notre Dame,

706
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: but they haven't scared. There's no Ohio State, there's no

707
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: you know, uh Alabama, there's no you know, one of

708
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: those types of teams in the non conference for one

709
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: of those headline early September games on any level.

710
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: In the next few years. The hours of content that

711
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: were created around Keile Williams maybe going somewhere other than USC.

712
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah something, Perhaps we can do a retrospective one three

713
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: years from now, but Keyle Williams now firmly entrenched at USC.

714
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: That'll be interesting to see what he does it at

715
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: these spot. Okay, can I give you an over under

716
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, please, just because I know this brings

717
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: out you are very kind and saying like, oh, people

718
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: care so much about it. You were so positive about that.

719
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: In reference to Lincoln Riley and Oklahoma fans, if Lincoln

720
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: Riley in a season at USC wins eleven games, okay,

721
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: they go eleven and one and win the Pac twelve,

722
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: So they go twelve and one wherever that nets them

723
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: in the playoff, not in the playoff whatever, But he

724
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: goes eleven and one.

725
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: I'll keep it an over under of one and a

726
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 2: half under more seasons. I knew you, I ask said

727
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: by the way, I saw some of the conversation around

728
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley in the move to LA, where if he

729
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: does have NFL interest, it could just be from an

730
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: LA team. He doesn't have to uproot his family now

731
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: that they're in the southern California regia.

732
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 3: What's his name?

733
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley keeps going forward on fourth downs. Maybe he'll

734
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: be out before long, who knows. Oh, I love Brandon Staley.

735
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: I hope he's there forever cause I love Justin Herbert.

736
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: I hope that's a that's a match, don't heaven? But

737
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: it's you.

738
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: Know, if Sean McVeigh gets one hundred million dollars a

739
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: year to go to Fox or something, who knows crazy.

740
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: I'll say, all right, So of the teams that we

741
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: have left, they're all group of five teams.

742
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: Yes, all group of five teams.

743
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: So my hunch is that I'm not going to get

744
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: viny of these trivia questions, right, but I think you'll

745
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: be all right. We've got Bowling Green, Buffalo, Navy, Rice,

746
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: Texas State, and Louisiana Monroe, the vaunted Warhawks. Go ahead.

747
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: This team beat nobody of note, but they did give

748
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina a scare, and for all that effort, their

749
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: starting quarterback was like, no, I'm leaving.

750
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 3: Is this Buffalo?

751
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: It is Buffalo.

752
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: It is the Bulls who It's an unfortunate situation. And

753
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: I just don't hold twenty twenty one against Mo Linguist

754
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: at all because Lance Leipold leaves when he leaves in

755
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: the spring to take the Kansas job, and so he's

756
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: tasked with, you know, whatever he wants to do with

757
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: the staff or not with the staff, or has to

758
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: hold on to guys because the market isn't there to

759
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: build out the staff he wants, and you have players

760
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: leaving because of increased mobility, and just you got to

761
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: do a lot on the fly wh us into that position.

762
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: He of course took the job, a job on the

763
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: defensive staff at Michigan and then made the move to

764
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo and they just weren't that good. They managed to

765
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: hold on to their starting running back. Who was promising.

766
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: That's Dylan McDuffie. I know it's a mcduffy who've already

767
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: used that last name once. The defense was a nightmare

768
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: in year one. He's already made a change there, so

769
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: kudos to him. He hires a young guy who was

770
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: like an analyst quality control assistant at Texas A and M,

771
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: who was a defensive coordinator defensive coordinator in high school

772
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: as recently as twenty seventeen. So hope he's a great

773
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: up and comer because Buffalo needs all the help on

774
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: that side.

775
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 3: Of the ball.

776
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: But no, it's an uphill battle. It's an uphill battle

777
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: for Buffalo, who has had some success under a couple

778
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: different guys as of late. And I don't know, we'll

779
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: see it's the mac. It's winnable.

780
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: The turnovers thing is interesting because that's something that will

781
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: just regress to the mean either way, because there's a

782
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: randomness to turnovers. So I thought they played with some

783
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 1: fight throughout the year. They just they lost a ton.

784
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Like if you go to the twenty four to seven

785
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: transfer portal page and you just scroll through teams, there

786
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: are a few teams where on the bottom of the

787
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: page there's a handy little button that says load more,

788
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: and Buffalo was one of those load more teams, which

789
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: is not the best. You don't want to be a

790
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: load more team. You do not want to be a

791
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: load more team. So Buffalo a lot of attrition there,

792
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: and again you understand that they Mo Linguist didn't recruit

793
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: these guys to Buffalo, and so it's you know it's

794
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: going to happen when you have a new coach, especially

795
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: given the timing of the hiring and of the change.

796
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: So hopefully they can build on the solid rushing numbers

797
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: in year one and get on more steady footing in

798
00:41:53,600 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: year two. Next team, Next team. This was the team

799
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: to me that made the move on one side of

800
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: the ball from shockingly inept to decently frisky. Shockingly inept

801
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: to decently frisky.

802
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah or maybe not shockingly inept, clearly inept and an

803
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: embarrassment to decently frisky in but a year.

804
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: Wow, you say Texas State Bowling Green. Okay, so Bowling

805
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: Green in twenty twenty, which again like the twenty twenty whatever,

806
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: however large a grain assault you want to give it.

807
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: But Scott Leffler era started out atrociously, yeah, defensively in

808
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: year two and you remember they beat Minnesota, they have

809
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: a headline win. In year two, Bowling Green's defense was

810
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: full on decent, a full on frisky defense, especially especially

811
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: against the past and nice pass rush the DB's made plays.

812
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: The problem with Bowling Green was offense, and in the

813
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: MAC it seems like a correctible element because there's a

814
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: lot of speed to be had. Still we see a

815
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: year in and year out within the MAC a lot

816
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: of creative offensive minds and right now with Bowling Green,

817
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: and I would not lump Scott Leffler in that category.

818
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: Got one, just one.

819
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 2: T made the change at offensive coordinator, promoted from within,

820
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: and it seems like it could be an easier thing

821
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: to correct by giving more of that that the mind power,

822
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: the creativity elsewhere. If you've got the defense, if you're

823
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: able to make plays, especially against the pass in the MAC.

824
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: It seems promising to me. And so they lost a

825
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: few players, like I think twelve out four guys come

826
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: in uh the schedule this year. I know they're at

827
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: UCLA and at Mississippi State, but again, they they've on

828
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: one side of the ball already, they've made that leap.

829
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 2: Who's to say in year three if Scott Leffler's hands

830
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: are not on the offense, they can't go from truly

831
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: horrific merely woeful.

832
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred and twenty fifth nationally. Yeah, on the.

833
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: Didn't score thirty points. They did not score thirty points

834
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: until Halloween.

835
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

836
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a rough watch if you're a

837
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: Bowling Green fan. Ninety sixth on a defense, excuse me, so,

838
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: cracking the top one hundred, one hundred and eleventh overall,

839
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: three point nine second order wins, So pretty much right

840
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: on the money for a four and eight team. Highlight

841
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: of the season you mentioned it earlier. They beat Minnesota.

842
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: They beat Minnesota on the road fourteen to ten. The

843
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: rest of the season was kind of a nightmare mm hm,

844
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: but they'll have that. That was one of those games

845
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: with Minnesota specifically where we saw that and kind of

846
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: scratched our head. Weren't talking so much about Bowling Green

847
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: at that point, but Minnesota, man, what's going on here?

848
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: Defense played well enough in that game. Minnesota didn't necessarily

849
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: have a gangbusters offense either, but a nice win for

850
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: Scott lefto.

851
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 3: Or on the road.

852
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: One thing that I found interesting I mentioned this to

853
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: you as well. Scott Leftwer became the first college football

854
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: coach to be ejected in a game for having two

855
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: unsportsmanlike penalties called against him. Yeah, got the boot, Yeah,

856
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: that'll happen. For what it's worth, danalytics wise, this comes

857
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: up not from me, but they went from one hundred

858
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: and twenty seventh to eighty fourth in points per drive

859
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: allowed on defense and per sp plus. These are some

860
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: of the nineteenth in passing success rate defense nationally. They

861
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: gave up way too many big plays, which is why

862
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: they're still you know, there's a lot of room for

863
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: improvement on defense. Number three on passing downs success rate,

864
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: and so against the pass they were able to make plays.

865
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: They did get burned sometimes or a lot of times,

866
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: but the pressure rate was decent enough. Sixty eighth nationally.

867
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: The sack rate was twenty first nationally, especially on passing downs.

868
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: They were very good at getting to the quarterback. So

869
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: just building blocks you like to see as there are

870
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: Falcon fans who are looking to go from four and

871
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: eight to six and six. Yeah, and to I guess

872
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: underscore your optimism before we move on Bowling Green is

873
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: number one, number one, okay, across all of major college

874
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: football when it comes to returning production for twenty twenty two. Okay,

875
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: number one on offense pretty much the whole offense back

876
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: and number four on defense returning production. So take that

877
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth.

878
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that. The question is always like,

879
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: is it good that the returning production?

880
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: Is that? Absolutely?

881
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but you'd still rather have guys back in a

882
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: lot of cases not all right, And that's I think

883
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good about to be. So we'll see what

884
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: Scott Lefler can do. If he can rectify that offense.

885
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: This team had their athletic director fire the offensive coordinator

886
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: after a particularly bad game, only to have the head

887
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: coach rehire set offensive coordinator in a demoted role. Also,

888
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: this team used to be awesome and now they're not.

889
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: I should know this, shouldn't I yeah, is this Navy.

890
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: This is Navy.

891
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is Navy.

892
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: Navy.

893
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: Navy was awesome. They dominated the rivalry with Army for

894
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: a long time.

895
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: They were one of.

896
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: The hardest outs in college football because of the relatively

897
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: unorthodox style of their offense. But they seemed to have

898
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: the advantage of having a set system to recruit, to

899
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: to have a head coach who wanted to be there,

900
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: and you know, was a familiar face in winning college

901
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: football circles. And then something happened, and obviously it went

902
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: off the rails a little bit with Ivan Jasper, the

903
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, after the offense these past couple of years

904
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: has just fallen off a cliff and a lot of

905
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: frustrated people in Annapolis within the program and one of

906
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 2: those programs, along with I think one of the last

907
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: couple we're gonna mention, that's just in an unfortunate place

908
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: in the nil and transfer portal era where it's just

909
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: going to be more difficult to plug holes and losing

910
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: guys like it's just Navy's going to be a difficult

911
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: place to succeed, and the service academies in general, one

912
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: could argue it is, but also Army and Air Force

913
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: a thriving right now. So what's happening with Navy is

914
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: some combination of not building the program from a talent

915
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: perspective properly. I don't know if it's a ken Neo

916
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: Modololo who's flirted with other jobs, most notably Arizona a

917
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: few years ago, and didn't get that job because of

918
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 2: the stigma of the option that is Kenia Modelolo want

919
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: to be in Annapolis because I don't know if something turned,

920
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: but Navy is in especially on offense. Did I mean

921
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: you have the numbers in front of you. Was there

922
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: a worst offense in America than the midship men?

923
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 3: There?

924
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: There were, okay, but but only like fifteen of them? Okakay,

925
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: what I would say on the Navy side. That definitely

926
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: caused me to raise my eyebrows. What have we said

927
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: about Navy for years? It's always been about the offense, right.

928
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: The offense has been kind of the cornerstone of that

929
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: program under Kennia Montalolo. Whenever you've got a situation when

930
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these numbers after the fact, when the

931
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: offense was worse than the defense, something's wrong because that

932
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: was always the exact opposite for Navy, it's at least

933
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: been even in their good years where they were contending,

934
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: where they're taking teams like Notre Dame to the wire.

935
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: You never had a defense better than the offense neither

936
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: side of the ball, to be frank, was all that good.

937
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: They were four and eight team. But to be one

938
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteenth nationally on offense and seventy fifth on defense,

939
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

940
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: That feels a little.

941
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: Bit off kilter to me. Three and a half second

942
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: order wins pretty much right on the number. Again for

943
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: a four and eight team.

944
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: What's notable to me?

945
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: You mentioned all that stuff about head coach Ken neamandlolo

946
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: first time in his tenure at Navy that he's had

947
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: back to back losing seasons. Yes, and you say whatever

948
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: you want, it's just Navy whatever, But this is a

949
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: guy who's been pretty successful for a good chunk of time.

950
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: What is it fourteen seasons now at Navy, whatever, it's

951
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: been to have back to back losing seasons, to look

952
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: as hapless as they did at times, they weren't even

953
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: in the conversation, Dan, they weren't even in the conversation

954
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: in a lot of these games. You know, We preview

955
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: games all year and typically we'll look at that Navy game.

956
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: We've talked about the body blow, like all these things

957
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: that have been woven into the fabric of our show. Yeah,

958
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: they weren't even a consideration this past season. They were

959
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: kind of a doormat and that sucks. I don't know

960
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: what's going on there.

961
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: I wonder if part of it. And to be fair,

962
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 2: Navy beat Army this year. They did upset their arrival,

963
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: but it's weird that it's now considered an upset and

964
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: no disrespect to Jeff Mounkin and how great of a

965
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: job he's done at Army. So they beat Army. They

966
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 2: beat Tulsa and UCF, which are both decently impressive wins

967
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: all things considered. So the Tulsa team that almost beat

968
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and a UCF team it was early on and

969
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: dealing with their own injury issues, and you're one of

970
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 2: the Gus Miles on era, so like, those are impressive wins.

971
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: But seven points against Marshall, three points against air Force.

972
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: They don't crack twenty against Memphis in a loss. They

973
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: don't crack ten against Notre Dame, a team that they've

974
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: typically given fits. If not you know, they don't beat

975
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: Notre Dame all that often, but like they give Notre

976
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: Dame issues, which speaks to the job Kenny Motelone had

977
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: done there. The problem is, and this is what I wonder,

978
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: do you remember the old I'm almost positive with Steve Spurrier,

979
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: it was like college football coaches aren't meant to be

980
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: places for more than a decade, Like it's just too

981
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: difficult to be somewhere more than a decade for like

982
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of coaches and feel inspired, feel like

983
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: the juice of winning at that place. Sometimes you just

984
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: need to do something new. And I wonder if that

985
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: ten year mark for ken neamade lolo and it really

986
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: was jump started. I know there were obviously off field

987
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: stuff with COVID when they just got demolished by BYU

988
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: to start out the twenty twenty year when they ran

989
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: all over them. That's, you know, Zach Wilson, you know,

990
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: starting to really shine for the Cougars. But I don't

991
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 2: know if there's just something about that place, is it's

992
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: such a different place than most of the you know,

993
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: they're in a major conference now or a pseudo major

994
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: conference in the American that man it's just sometimes you

995
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 2: just need a reboot tie, just like all of our routers.

996
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: And I wonder if that's true for Navy and kenyam.

997
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: Up, pull out the power cord weight ten seconds, plug

998
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: it back in. Yeah, all right, we've got three teams left.

999
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: We've got Rice, We've got Texas State, We've got the

1000
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: Louisiana Monroe vaunted Warhawks. I don't know why this next

1001
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: team exists as an FBS team. I have no clue.

1002
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 3: This is Rice.

1003
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Rice, who one winning coach in the

1004
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: past like one hundred years over the course of his career,

1005
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: and zero if you take away Todd Graham, who was

1006
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: only there for a year in two thousand and six. Yeah,

1007
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: everybody loses at Rice. It is like the ninth most

1008
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: popular team in their own region. Like by region, I

1009
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 2: mean like the very the Houston area, the vaguely Houston area.

1010
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 2: I know College Station is not necessarily the Houston area,

1011
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: but it's you know, an hour and a half, two hours,

1012
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: whatever it is. I'm almost positive I got that geography wrong.

1013
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: But why does Rice exist? Rice is an incredible academic

1014
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 2: institution in a very much football happy part of the universe,

1015
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: and they never win. There is no desire. Like for

1016
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: some of these schools, you're like, wow, we were good

1017
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: in the eighties and you've got all the money saying

1018
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 2: let's get good again.

1019
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: That was so fun. They've never been good. This has

1020
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: never been a good program. Right, nobody cares about Rice

1021
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: football at all. This is Mike Bloomgren comes in from

1022
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: Stanford New Marcus Tuyasa Sopo's the offensive coordinator. Like there's

1023
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: decent enough coaching talent there. There's not a program that

1024
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: has any designs of becoming a serious program about getting

1025
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: to bowl games. Like it should not exist, Like this

1026
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: is an example of somebody collecting a check for not

1027
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: contributing all due respect to whoever is listening. That's a

1028
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: Rice fan, all point four of you. But I don't

1029
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: know man, Like it was just another disappointing year. They

1030
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: beat you a right, Like they had that random, really

1031
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: nice performance where they just think they strung together drives,

1032
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: they ran the ball decently enough. They actually passed it

1033
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: really well in that game. But other than that, it's

1034
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: an unseerious program about Like, I know they've they spent

1035
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of money hiring these guys, but they

1036
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: finished the year, losing four or five. They do. They

1037
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: go on a go out on a high note, beating

1038
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech, but I don't know. They're scoring twenty plus,

1039
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: but they lose forty five nothing to UTSA has you know,

1040
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: their own like, you know, beautiful season, but Man lose

1041
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: to an FCS team in Texas Southern.

1042
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1043
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: I've wondered this for quite some time, and perhaps somebody

1044
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: can come on this show, somebody brighter than you and I,

1045
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: you can explain the economics of it, of which there

1046
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: are many, of which there are most to be frank, Yeah,

1047
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: there must be some sort of financial reason to keep

1048
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: your standing among FBS.

1049
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: There must sense. There has to be. I don't know.

1050
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it's playing some of these non conference games. The

1051
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: payout helps fund other aspects of the athletic program. Rice

1052
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: is a good baseball team. Rice has other good programs

1053
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: that sure great, are nationally recognized, but yeah, the football

1054
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: team is not one of them at this point in time.

1055
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1056
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: If I were a student at Rice, if I were

1057
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: anybody a faculty member at Rice and all this money

1058
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: was going to football, I would kind of be like, why,

1059
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: what is the point of this?

1060
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

1061
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: Two other teams, Texas State and Louisiana Monroe, the vaunted Warhawks. Man,

1062
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: I don't know one of these teams lost to an

1063
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: FCS team and made no coaching changes after going four

1064
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: and eight with a bad defense that couldn't get off

1065
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: the field.

1066
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: This is Texas State.

1067
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: It is Texas State. Whose defensive coordinator is the coaches brother.

1068
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: That's right.

1069
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1070
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: Jake spabottall has that, you know, offensive reputation, quarterback reputation.

1071
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: He's a hole go guy.

1072
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: Their quarterback just decided to transfer, Brady McBride. It's just

1073
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: the Bobcats are in a position now where, like I

1074
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: guess their ceiling is, hey, we can score forty a

1075
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: game and sometimes we keep teams to thirty nine or fewer.

1076
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: But otherwise Texas State's.

1077
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: Been you know, they went from what three to nine

1078
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: to four and eight, So technically they are, yes, heading

1079
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: in the right direction. There's some promise on the offensive line,

1080
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: but I don't know if you're looking long term at

1081
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: Texas State. As like the path to a bowl. They

1082
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: get by a bad Butch Davis Arkansas State team, they

1083
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: beat Monroe. Who's the final team on this list. You know,

1084
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: sneak by South Alabama beat a bad FIU team, like

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00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: they beat some of the bad teams they were supposed

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00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: to beat. Yeah, but like they give up sixty to

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00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan, Like they's just I don't know, they're just

1088
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: it's almost like to start the game, just assume they're

1089
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: going to give up thirty five points. And I don't

1090
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: know if this is headed in a meaningfully good direction.

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00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: You know what a bobcat is? Have you ever seen

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00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: an actual bobcat? Probably probably in a zoo somewhere. Bobcats

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00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: are prevalent. They're bobcats around here. Okay, bobcats are a

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00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: very underrated mascot slash nickname for my money, because you've

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00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: got the added benefit of not just the cool animal,

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00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: which is looks like a mini cheetah, mini tiger with

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00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: the extra tuffs coming out the ear, a little bit

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00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: bigger than a house cat. Yep, You've also got the

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00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: added benefit, the added layer of the really cool machine

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00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: bobcats that you might have in a bat layard. You're

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00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: you're getting some renovations done. You got a digger, they

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00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: got all sorts of bobcats. Bobcat not a sponsor. Could

1103
00:58:54,320 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: be sure Bobcat a very underrated mascot for my money. Okay,

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00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: I'd known next to nothing about bobcats. Maybe it'll come

1105
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: up on extra nuggets. Oh my gosh, bobcats. I'm going

1106
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: to send you the Wikipedia.

1107
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 3: Go through this.

1108
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm on it right now.

1109
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 3: Are you looking at this? Look at these guys. Look

1110
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: at these guys.

1111
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: What disrespect to Texas State where we're just talking about

1112
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: tufts and there are red lynx. Right, that's what a

1113
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: bobcat is. Uh yeah, sure, it's not going to it's

1114
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: not going to eat you won't eat me. But it

1115
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: does eat all sorts of different things, like different sizes

1116
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: kind of. It's adapted itself to the point where it

1117
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: can live pretty much anywhere.

1118
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: It's a cool, cool cat. Literally.

1119
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: Birds up to the size of an adult trumpeter swan

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00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: are also taken in ambushes while nesting along with their

1121
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: fledglings and eggs.

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00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: Bobcats don't care.

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Speaker 3: They don't care.

1124
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: Man like honey batch trumpeter swan. It's a big, not

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00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: a small animal. It's a big freaking swan. I've seen them.

1126
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 3: You're huge.

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: Okay, cat information, there you go, all right, Final team here,

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Speaker 1: we don't need to do the question. The final team

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01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: is Luisiana Monroe, correct, the Warhawks.

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Speaker 3: The Warhawks, Yeah.

1131
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: They are, I guess trying to improve after year one

1132
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: under Terry Terry Bowden took me over that program.

1133
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 3: Last year.

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Speaker 1: It was not a good team. They just they weren't good.

1135
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: They were two point six on the second order win scale,

1136
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: which means they were a four win team that probably

1137
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: got a little bit lucky to get to four wins.

1138
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty fourth nationally in terms of the

1139
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: sp plus one twenty seven on offense, which is just

1140
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: impossibly bad.

1141
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: Impossibly especially given who their offensive coordinator was very briefly, Yeah,

1142
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 2: impossibly bad.

1143
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty seventh and then on defense one

1144
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: hundred and thirteenth isn't really going to do the offense

1145
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: any favors. So a lot of room for improvement here

1146
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: under Terry Bowden. Will see if he can do it.

1147
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: Terry Bowden, you know, Terry Bowden is at Auburn for

1148
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: period of time he's been around, you would assume that

1149
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: he can at least get that program up from where

1150
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: it's been. Not saying they're gonna win nine games a year.

1151
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: But I would expect some degree.

1152
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 3: Of improvement in the next year or so.

1153
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: So rehire They rehire an offensive coordinator mc kubick Kubic

1154
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: from Southern miss who had a good degree of success

1155
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: for the Warhawks. Rich Rod goes over to Jacksonville State

1156
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: now as the head coach there. Yeah, if they did

1157
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 1: anything decently well last year, it was run the ball.

1158
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: It was at best decent. Yeah, defense was a nightmare.

1159
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: I what's interesting is Terry Bowden is Terry Bowden's the

1160
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 2: best modern coach or best Akron coach ever.

1161
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they got rid of him right until we

1162
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: love for.

1163
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: Whatever reason, we love him as he Monroe has been

1164
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: interesting in the last whatever it is, decade, decade and

1165
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: a half. It's in an area of country where you

1166
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: can find talent, where you can scoop up transfer talents

1167
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: from bigger conferences.

1168
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Well, look I don't know. Let

1169
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: me put it to you this way and then we'll

1170
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: move on. Yeah. I guess this is our last team.

1171
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: We can end the shelf if we want. Yeah, Monroe's

1172
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: got a lot coming back on offense. Okay, a lot

1173
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: coming back on offense. So at a minimum, the impossibly

1174
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: bad offense one hundred and twenty seventh nationally. Should improve,

1175
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: it should improve, has to improve defensively could be another story.

1176
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: It was a lot on defense.

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01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: So best case scenario, we're talking about a half team

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01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: of sorts. I don't think they're going to improve much

1179
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the football, but as a

1180
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: four and eight team, there's always room to go up.

1181
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: So we'll see what he can do. See what he

1182
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: can do.

1183
01:02:54,400 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: Louisiana. Monroe finishes with the worst recruiting class per average

1184
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: recruit ranking, and I think in general the worst recruiting

1185
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: class in the Sun Belts, and just above them is

1186
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 2: Texas State. Great so three three star recruits from Monroe,

1187
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: two for Texas State. Texas State's average recruit rank a

1188
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: little bit higher, but a ways to go for uh

1189
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: for Monroe, it's not looking super positive in the short term,

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01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: but you never know. All you need is six, All

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01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: you need is six.

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Speaker 3: All right? That does it.

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01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: For four and eight teams, yes, make sure you join

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01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: us next month as we push into the first week

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01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: of May. For five and seven teams, yes, a lot

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Speaker 1: more five and seven teams that we can talk about.

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01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: Do you have the list in front of you. I'm

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01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: in the process. I'm stalling.

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Speaker 3: Actually, are you really I have the list?

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Speaker 1: You're ready?

1201
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 3: What's the list?

1202
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: Florida State, Syracuse, Texas, TCU, Illinois, FAU, Charlotte, San Jose State,

1203
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: You're California, Golden Bears, Troy Trojans, and South Alabama. I'll

1204
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: go five and seven. Some interesting teams in there, Dan,

1205
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: it's not bad. Hit the subscribe button, hit the follow

1206
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: button if you have not already. We will, of course

1207
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: continue broadcasting twice per week here through the off season.

1208
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: Once we get into July, that's when the rubber starts

1209
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: to meet the road. That's when we start talking previews.

1210
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: You and I start doing a ton more research. We

1211
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: put together a hockey Little concept to take you through

1212
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: every conference in America get you ready for the college

1213
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: football season. But until then, at least to a week.

1214
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,400
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1215
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: we also do bonus episodes of brewin a every Friday.

1216
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: We've still got to talk through what we're doing for

1217
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: our off topic show in the month of April, but

1218
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: we can get there. Talk to me about your summer plans.

1219
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: I need this kind of positive, warm thinking in the

1220
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: still gray Midwest, because you're talking about July and the

1221
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: excitement and the rubber meeting the road, Like, yeah, do

1222
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: you have a vacation plan? Are you thinking you're going

1223
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: to go to the beach more or to a lake more,

1224
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: or revise some boat goals, or revise wardrobe or like

1225
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: you told me earlier, like you're rethinking your lawn care strategy.

1226
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: Like talk to me about summer thoughts. It's never too early.

1227
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean, first off, you know I want

1228
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: to get on the pickleball train. Yes, I do. You

1229
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: know I want to try this. I'm a little spoop

1230
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: by the fact that I've got some friends of mine

1231
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: whose parents live in a retirement village, and they said

1232
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: that once you get into pickleball, you sort of can't

1233
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: get out. It's sort of a it's a lifestyle of sorts.

1234
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not looking to modify my current lifestyle.

1235
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: Like I got it, I got it pretty good. But

1236
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: pickle ball, I think is something I'd like to attempt.

1237
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: I definitely would like to play more golf because as

1238
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: we were planning out for the summer, like quite literally

1239
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: this time last year, I didn't know I was leaving

1240
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: my job, right, And I worked all the way up

1241
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: until the point where you and I were killing it

1242
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: on the research front, and I didn't really have much

1243
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: time to get out and play golf. Right. So now

1244
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: this year, with the benefit of a little bit more

1245
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: off season time, at least the first half of summer,

1246
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to get out there and hit the links

1247
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: more so. That's the top billing for me, to say

1248
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: the least. Yeah, the lawn care thing. Rethinking the strategy

1249
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. Also trying to figure out if there

1250
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: are any other odds and ends I want to add

1251
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: in the backyard. Still early days for that level. You

1252
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: began your fire pit season. We did start the fire

1253
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: pit season. Yeah, I sent you picked its huge.

1254
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 3: We started that. We had a nice day on Saturday.

1255
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 3: Was able to do that.

1256
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: It's now rained the last five days or however many

1257
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: days it's Saturday. Yep, it's rained pretty much NonStop since.

1258
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: But at least we had that one day. I don't know.

1259
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: Are you happy with your summer wardrobe?

1260
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 3: No? No, I'm not right.

1261
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: What are we more breatheable fabrics, shorter shorts, new sandals.

1262
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: What's on the agenda.

1263
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think I need to take a

1264
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: trip over to to some of the stores in the

1265
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: area and figure out what the plan is going to be. Now,

1266
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for this branding the summer wardrobe.

1267
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 3: No, not a rebrand.

1268
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,959
Speaker 1: This is not I'm ready for. It is a refresh

1269
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: some pineapple print. Pineapple print is my thing. You have

1270
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: an en sam adjustment here. No, you can go from

1271
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: like nine to sevens now, I think mostly the same size.

1272
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: But just I need to figure out how to upgrade

1273
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: or how to refresh some of what I've had for

1274
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: years now. I don't like clothes shopping. I don't know

1275
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: how you feel about it.

1276
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 3: I hate it.

1277
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: I do most of it online, if not all of

1278
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: it online, So it's not that bad. I don't mind

1279
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: doing it online. I'm just saying, I just, yeah, I

1280
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: don't like spending the money. Okay, I hate it. What

1281
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: do you think of adding to your backyard?

1282
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 3: Maybe shed?

1283
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: We've talked about the shed before, right, Okay?

1284
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 3: Just storage storage?

1285
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, storage storage would be good. Probably due for refresh

1286
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: on some of the patio furniture as well. We've had

1287
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: that for a while. Okay, so we'll see. I don't

1288
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: any new grilling goals or I mean summer star tails.

1289
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: Maybe to start to grill up more than twice a

1290
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: summer would be a goal. You only grill twice in

1291
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: a summer.

1292
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,839
Speaker 3: I've only grilled twice in the last two summers.

1293
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, get some burgers, gets piece of fish,

1294
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: Come on, there's so much there. I know, I know, veggies.

1295
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: We've talked about this.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel good about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel good about it.

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Speaker 2: But are you h you know what I've seen in

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Speaker 2: a couple of backyards here, because it's kind of needed

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Speaker 2: for some people. I suppose have you ever seen backyards saunas?

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Speaker 2: Back to those giants, the giant barrels that people can build.

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Speaker 2: You can build it like a free standing So that's

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Speaker 2: why when you said, Shad, I was wondering where you're

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01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 2: going with it. It's like a giant looking barrel contraption

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01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: that's like a much more personal individual or maybe two

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Speaker 2: person size sauna. Obviously you don't need that every summer.

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Speaker 3: If you're talking about like.

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Speaker 1: The little standing pedestals with the they look like big,

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Speaker 1: big toadstools that have the fire coming out the top. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a sauna that you go in like

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01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: to steam yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's different. I know I've never seen those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've seen those. I'm just thinking what you

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Speaker 2: could add unique to your backyard. Final question, final question.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I think pickleball is a no brainer

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 2: for you. And we've already talked about your and my

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01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: plans at the same time to add more strength training. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you demonstrably improve one part of your golf game

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Speaker 2: this summer, what will make you happiest.

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Speaker 3: Definitely my second shots, okay, yeah.

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01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: Your more approaches, your your mid irons. Okay. The best

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01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,879
Speaker 1: part of my game, and this is I think topical

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Speaker 1: now with the Masters taking place this weekend. Yeah, maybe

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01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: I'll be playing next year and we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: But the best part of my game is a driver.

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Speaker 1: I crush the driver and I'm accurate with the driver,

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Speaker 1: which is weird because I never used to be. But

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01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: something happened maybe after my shoulder thing, and I crush it.

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Speaker 1: Nice little baby draw right down the middle. Mm hm.

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Speaker 3: After that.

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Speaker 1: Short games, very good, really good. I've got an imagination

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Speaker 1: around the greenstand.

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Speaker 3: Okay, very strong there.

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Speaker 1: Putting is so so nobody's a good putter.

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Speaker 3: Nobody.

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Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who knows a good putter, And

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Speaker 1: chances are if they're a good putter, they stink at

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: everything else. They're a nightmare elsewhere. Yeah. Yeah, so nobody's

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Speaker 1: good at putting. That just kind of is assumed. Where

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Speaker 1: I really struggle, though, is when I'm crushing the driver,

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: I split the fairway. I've got, you know, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty yards in nothing in my way. I get

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01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: the yips. I overthink it. Mm hmmm hmm. And I'm

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01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: not missing by much, but I'm missing enough that I'm

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Speaker 1: not putting myself in a position to score. Which iron

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01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: is your white whale? I just don't have a handle on.

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Speaker 1: I mean the wish you could, you could improve your

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01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: seven or you're six or you're eight. No, I you know,

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: the long irons are tougher for most people. Yeah, there

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01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: is more that can go wrong. It's a longer club, right, Yeah.

1351
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: So you know, if I could get a little bit

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01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: more consistent with say a four iron, okay, I think

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: that would help. But basically it's it's just that situation

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01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: as opposed to a specific club.

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Speaker 3: In the bag.

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Speaker 1: I just overthink it a heck, you know me, you've

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: met You've known me for a long time. It's true.

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01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm a head case and I overthink things, and I

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01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: overthink that all the time. So inevitably what happens to

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Speaker 1: me is I get thirteen holes in and then I explode.

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: I'll have a good roundwork and for thirteen holes and

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01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: then it's just the bottom falls out. How how is

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Speaker 1: the breathe ability of your golfing summer apparel? I've got

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: a lot of dry fit Okay, good, I had a

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01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: lot of drive fix. I do like to hear that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's all. I have productive discussion as ever

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Speaker 1: here on the show talking four and eight teams.

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Speaker 3: Dan. Next episode we'll talk about your summer plans. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I promise I would love to. Oh my god, I

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Speaker 3: will jot that down as we said earlier.

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01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: will be back next week. Everybody. Enjoy the Masters if

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Speaker 1: that's your cup of tea. Otherwise, enjoy spring football. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to y'all on Tuesday. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,