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Welcome to my show. Remember each week, 16 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: this is the place you go to when you want 17 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: to hear the latest news, the latest stories about anything 18 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: and everything out of the ordinary, mysterious, cryptal, zoological. I mean, 19 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: I'd like to cover all of it. I'd like to 20 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: keep it very, very different, and spontaneous, and I want 21 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: to welcome you. If you have experienced something out of 22 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: the ordinary, or if you have researched something or come 23 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: across something that you'd like to have addressed here on 24 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: this program, be sure to go to my main website, 25 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot 26 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: com and tell me what's on your mind. Tell me 27 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: what it is that you want me to cover. In fact, 28 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: that is a topic that I'm going to be covering today, 29 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: is a topic that was suggested by someone. And uh, 30 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's pretty miraculous what's going on out 31 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: there in the world these days, because it's getting interesting. 32 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: The news is getting interesting when it comes to the peculiar, 33 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: the unexplained, and uh, UFOs, Yeah, I'm sticking with UFOs 34 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: or U A P S for those of you who 35 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: want to try to join that U a P new 36 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: definition of what UFOs have been for so many of 37 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: us for so many decades. Already alright, diving right into 38 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: what was sent my way. This comes to me from 39 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: C n N and Yahoo News and oh so many 40 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: places that I've seen this story pop up, and I 41 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: got it's about five different people that sent this my way. 42 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: It's just like, what do you think about this? What 43 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: are your thoughts? So I'm going to read the article 44 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: to you. This is a combo Yahoo CNN link and 45 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: the title is unknown space object beaming out radio signals 46 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: every eighteen minutes remains a mystery. This is from Ashley 47 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: Strickland and this comes to us Januaro and it says, 48 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: while mapping radio waves across the universe, astronomers happened upon 49 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: a celestial object releasing giant bursts of energy, and it's 50 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: unlike anything they've ever seen before. The spinning space object 51 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: spotted March beamed out radiation three times per hour. In 52 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: those moments, it became the brightest source of radio waves 53 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: in our sky, acting like a celestial lighthouse. Astronomers think 54 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: it might be a remnant of a collapsed star, either 55 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: a dent neutron star or a dead white dwarf star 56 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: with strong magnetic field, or it could be something else entirely. 57 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: I wonder that could be. Uh. This image shows the 58 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: Milky Way as viewed from Earth, and the star icon 59 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: marks the location of the unknown object. Dr Natasha Hurley 60 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Walker is pointing out. So it's just this wonderful image 61 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: here and it says a study on the discovery published 62 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: Wednesday in the journal quote Nature. And this object was 63 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: appearing and disappearing over a few hours during our observations, 64 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: said lead a study author Natasha Hurley, Walker and astrophysicist 65 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: at the Curtain University, note of the International Center for 66 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Radio Astronomy Research. She says in a statement, that was 67 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: completely unexpected. It was kind of spooky for an astronomer 68 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: because there's nothing known in the sky that that, huh. 69 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: And it's really quite close to us, about four thousand 70 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: light years away. It's in our galactic backyard, she says. 71 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Curtin University doctoral student Tyrone Odo Tree Ado Tree maybe 72 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: um made the unusual discovery while using the Murchison Wide 73 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Field Array telescope in the outback of Western Australia. Quote 74 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: It's exciting that the source I identified last year has 75 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: turned out to be such a peculiar object. Odo Tree 76 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: set in a statement the mw a's wide field of 77 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: view and extreme sensitivity are perfect for surveying the entire 78 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: sky and detecting the unexpected what remains of a massive 79 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: stars death, maybe flaring space objects that appear to turn 80 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: on and off are known as transients. Quote. When studying transients, 81 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: you're watching the death of a massive star or the 82 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: activity of the remnants it leaves behind, said study co 83 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: author Jemma Anderson I car Curtain astrophysicists in a statement, 84 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: Slow transients like supernova might appear over the course of 85 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: a few days and disappear after a few months. Quote. 86 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: Fast transients, like a type of neutron star called a pulsar, 87 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: flash on and off within milliseconds or seconds. This new 88 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: incredibly bright object, however, only turn on for about a 89 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: minute every eighteen minutes. The researchers said, They're observations might 90 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: match up with a definition of an ultralong period magnetar. 91 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: Magnetars usually flare by the second, but this object takes longer, 92 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: and then they have an artist's impression of what the 93 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: object might look like if it's a magnetar or an 94 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: incredibly magnetic neutron star. It's a type of slowly spinning 95 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: neutron star that has been predicted to exist theoretically, Hurley 96 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: Walkers said, but nobody expected directly to detect one like 97 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: this because we didn't expect them to be so bright. Somehow, 98 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: it's converting magnetic energy to radio waves much more effectively 99 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: than anything we've seen before radio waves. Huh. The researchers 100 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: will continue to monitor the object to see whether it 101 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: turns back on, and in the meantime, they are searching 102 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: for evidence of other similar objects. More detections will tell 103 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: astronomers whether this was a rare, one off event or 104 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: a vast new population we've never seen before, says Hurley Walker. Interesting. Huh. 105 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know about you guys, but the news, 106 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: like I was saying, is getting a little bit more 107 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: fluid in their choice of words when it comes to 108 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: odd things in the sky, and could it be a 109 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: possible something that we just don't know alien life? I mean, 110 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: you could see right, you saw that little a little 111 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: bit in there. It's just like or something else. Like. 112 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen so much reference to 113 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: the quote something else, have you? I don't think so. 114 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: I think this is a warming up of things to come, 115 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: and uh, it's kind of exciting and then it's kind 116 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, great, what are they up to? And 117 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: why now? Why now? I always had the question in 118 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: my mind of people who have had military abductions right, 119 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: So they get taken by the government, and they're taken 120 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: in by people in these camouflage outfits with rifles. It's 121 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: happened to myself even um white shirts, navy blue tie, 122 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: that type of thing, and asked very strange questions and 123 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: taken under somehow forgotten means, like how did you get there? 124 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, Uh, you know what happened fully there? 125 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I was drugged. And sometimes 126 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: people have marks on their arms and just strange recollections, right, 127 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, did they get what they wanted? Well, 128 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: we don't know, we can't remember everything. And it's like, okay, 129 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: why didn't they just, I don't know, dispose of us. 130 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: That's a kind way of putting it when they just 131 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: end it like, well they know too much or maybe 132 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: they don't know enough. I don't know. They weren't useful, 133 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: they were useful. Why don't they just get rid of us? Perhaps, 134 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: and this is just me thinking and others that I've 135 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: talked to you over the years. Perhaps we are that 136 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: that little bit of info out there among the normal folks. 137 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: I think, No, No, we're we're normal. We're normal folks. Um. 138 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: The population of folks who could educate people in the 139 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: case of something happening that is extraordinary, that is h questionable, 140 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: that is alien, And we are these people sitting out 141 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: there who can be like, you know that right there, 142 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: I've had an experience like this or I've heard of 143 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: something like that. I think they are going to rely 144 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: upon us to help the masses of people just in 145 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: case of some kind of panic. I mean, of course 146 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: people will be shocked at their whole reality has been 147 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: flipped on their side. But but the TV shows, in 148 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: the movies, I mean, everybody's taken note of this, right, 149 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: They're getting more and more believable, where it's like if 150 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: aliens would show up, I think people know how they 151 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: would react or should react, right. It's it's interesting. I 152 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: find it fascinating because it's so believable. We are such 153 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: entertainment consumers, right, I mean, we're all about watching these 154 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: shows and it's like, oh, that's believable. Like like when 155 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: the government said aliens are real, I was like expecting 156 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: there to be parades or something and more people going wow, 157 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: I do you were right on and oh, that's just 158 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: so accepted now. They it was hardly a flinch, hardly 159 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: a flinch. I even met people that didn't even hear 160 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: about it. Oh they did. They said, aliens are real 161 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: neat past the sault, you know, like like not a 162 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: big deal. So it's working, it's working. But I think 163 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: it's really really kind of interesting how this is all 164 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: unfolding because there is no big whoop de doo. There 165 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: aren't people running out with their rifles to go shoot 166 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: it out of the sky. If something does come, it's 167 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: leaking out into the news to be questionable. We're allowed 168 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: to live among the people freely and after being interrogated 169 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: by our governments to give the goods on what we 170 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: know about these strange fun amena going on, because I 171 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: think they want that, they want to have those active 172 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: members out there who have been involved in strange phenomena 173 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: too to be helpful. Um and maybe, you know, just 174 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: maybe maybe the beings that we're interacting with are not 175 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: the same ones that our government is and they might 176 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: be a little bit concerned and hope that we could 177 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: be an ambassador of sorts. I don't know, I don't know, 178 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: but I'm just doing that out there. I want you 179 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: guys to think about that too, because you know you 180 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: wanted my opinion on this a few people that have 181 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: sent me that article. My opinion is, you know, I 182 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: think our understanding of the universe is going to change 183 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: rapidly very soon. And you know, in fact, I think 184 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: I think I need to touch base on some of 185 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: the things that I've written of over twenty years ago. 186 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: When it comes to my book called The Secret War, 187 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: where I discussed there may be a conflict among the 188 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: stars with other beings just like there are here on 189 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: this planet. I think it might do that. Maybe on 190 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: the next episode. We'll have to see. You know, I've 191 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: got a great guest, Rob Thompson of the Ghost Finders 192 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: coming right up. You're gonna enjoy this, and don't forget 193 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: to check out my website Heidi Hollis dot com and 194 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: tell me your stories. All right, you guys, you are 195 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me, Heidi Hollis on 196 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I AM 197 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll be right back. Stay 198 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: right there, there's more Heidi coming right up. You're listening 199 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: to the Heart Radio and Coast to Coast DAUM Paranormal Podcast. 200 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back, you are listening to Dark Becomes Light with 201 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio Coast to 202 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. As promised, I have a 203 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: fabulous guest. His name is Rob Thompson, who is a 204 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: spirit medium who speaks at events around the globe and 205 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: he also teaches paranormal research at the Los Angeles City College. 206 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: Rob Thompson is also a cast member on The Ghost 207 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Finders and he's appeared on other programs like Paranormal One 208 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: and the upcoming new season of Haunting, one of my favorites. 209 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: So everybody please welcome my guest, Rob Thompson. How are 210 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: you doing to day, Rob, I'm doing fantastic. Thank you 211 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: so much. Hide It's great to be here. And um 212 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: is rather chilly here in northeast Pennsylvania degrees. Oh gosh, 213 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I am freezing myself currently, but hopefully 214 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: not for long. But you know, you have such a 215 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: fascinating background. I'm very very curious. I love beginning stories 216 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: on how people got started into the are a normal. 217 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: So what is your story? So I hope you're sitting 218 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: comfortably popcorn in hand. It's a long one, um, so essentially, 219 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: when I first realized I had some kind of gift, 220 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess at the age of sort of 221 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: five or six years old, I realized that there were 222 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: things that I was seeing and hearing that other people weren't. 223 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: And your first sort of really your first reaction, I 224 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: guess thoughts to that, which were mine were Okay, I'm bonkers, 225 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: and you know, I just I thought, you know, it 226 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: was just a really weird childhood growing up in this 227 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: seventy century English manor house that my mother was a 228 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: housekeeper in, you know, while she was working, you know, downstairs, 229 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: I was upstairs. You know, we had one of the 230 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: apartments in the building, and and I would just literally 231 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, maids, butlers, just random people, even 232 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: even like a dog that other people weren't seeing. And 233 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: it just it just as you can imagine, uh, not 234 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: something you go rushing to tell your friends, right, not 235 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: very fun as a child. So they looked very solid 236 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: to you. They didn't look transparent at all, you well 237 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: know that's they looked actually opaque for the for the 238 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: most part um And then on on. On one a 239 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: particular occasion, my mother was downstairs cooking for a dinner party, 240 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: and I saw a head poke around my bedroom door, 241 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, hello, hi, mom, Mom, I don't 242 00:16:54,800 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: like calling, and this just this this head just solid 243 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: as anything. It was just like, in fact, I thought 244 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: it was someone just popping up to check on me, 245 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: you know, for for you know, the fact that she 246 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: was busy downstairs in the kitchens, and and it was 247 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: it was just they was gone. In a second, they 248 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: were there, and then a couple of seconds they were gone. Um. 249 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: And on another occasion, I was in bed and a 250 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: book like levitated like seven or eight inches out from 251 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: a bookshelf, and I was absolutely terrified, and I at 252 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: some point and I pulled the covers over my head, 253 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: and at some point I must have drifted off to sleep, 254 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: and I woke up in the morning thinking like, wow, 255 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: that was just such a weird dream. And I look 256 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: and in the between my legs on the bed, okay, 257 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: on top of the covers was the book. So it 258 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: floated off and dropped on my bed. And they were 259 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: totally aiming for you and messing with you. So they 260 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: were aware that you were aware. So when did yeah, exactly, 261 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: so you grew up in this haunted location and did 262 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: you share with family members. I mean, how did you 263 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: handle this? There was one occasion I said to my mom, 264 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: I said, mom Um, you know there ghosts here And 265 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: she looked at me and she was like, I'll be silly, 266 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't an affirmative. No, I was like, you 267 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: know the kind of thing you expect. What are you 268 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: talking about watching? What nonsense are you watching? Nope, it 269 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: wasn't that. She was like, looked at me and she 270 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: was like, oh, just didn't think anything of it. So 271 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: how did you later on developed a skill and acknowledge 272 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: it and recognize it and stepped forward into the field. Well, 273 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: so I was, you know my at that point, I 274 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: was just like, okay, I need to know what this is, 275 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: how it is, how is this even like possible? Um? 276 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: There were other things happening to me that we're just 277 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: impossible to explain. Like you know, I would just like 278 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: foresee events and then they would happen, or things that 279 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: I would fear would then happen, like someone was reading 280 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: my mind and making them happen. I mean it was, 281 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty creepy. Um. But this huge 282 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: passion in me to to find out answers to and 283 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, like, how do I How am I able 284 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: to see these people? How are they able to see me? 285 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: And then around about the age of seven or eight 286 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: years old, I started realizing that they could see and 287 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: hear me. And it was about the age of ten, 288 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: I think that I've got my first like a VP, 289 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: Like I I heard the voice saying hello, Robert, and 290 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: I was just like, who are you? My name is David. 291 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: And then it was like my I thought my heart 292 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: was going to stop. It was it was it was 293 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: just like but I wasn't terrified. I was just like 294 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: because I just knew. I just I don't know how 295 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: I knew, but I knew and really went through sort 296 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: of I suppose that the last six seven, um years 297 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: of you know, into high school just kind of blocking 298 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: it out because it was like it just wasn't something 299 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: that I could confide in anyone too. So it's kind 300 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: of like my own secret that I kept to myself 301 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: and really didn't do much with. Um. While my peers 302 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: were out playing football soccer as you call it here, um, 303 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: you know, I was with my friends and I was 304 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: like searching the basements and that there were these sort 305 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: of like labyrinth of tunnels and dungeons and sort of 306 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: like places in this in this manor house where they 307 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: would keep the wine and everything, and just really just 308 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: looking for contact with David and with these other um 309 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: spirits UM, and then you know, it really just sort 310 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: of like balloon and group from there. And I joined 311 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: the forces UM about sixteen. At that point I just 312 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: sort of like blocked it out, blocked it out and 313 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: just really sort of like swept away just like pretended 314 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: that it was all a figment of my imagination and 315 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: that I hadn't done a bit had happened. UM. It 316 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: just I guess I was at the point where I 317 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: was not ready to really truly embrace it. It's scared. 318 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: It's still scared me, and it, you know, was keeping 319 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: me awake, right, But how did you get over this 320 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: and get to the point that you are right now? 321 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: So you started a rather unique venture. So that's a 322 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: big venture. I'm really interested to hear how you got 323 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: that going. Okay, So another twenty something years past, UM 324 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: and I had moved to the Netherlands. I moved then 325 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: to the States. UM. When I moved to the States, 326 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: I was here for about a year, was about ninety 327 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: eight and I just started how I just started hearing 328 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: the voices like again, but it was it was a 329 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: familiar voice, of familiar feeling. I just I said, who 330 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: are you? And she was just like little Robbie, It's Josie. 331 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: And I just about, um, just about just about fell 332 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: on the floor. It's a shock. I mean, it was 333 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: just like a really bizarre, really really unbelievable feeling. But 334 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't scary. It was warmth. It was just like 335 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: I felt like the whole every every atom of my 336 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 1: body was like exploding. And I just it's hard for 337 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: me to explain. Yeah, she was, well, she was. She 338 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: was actually my nanny before we moved to the place 339 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: I just told you about. My mother was my mother 340 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: was a cook at another stately home and um, and 341 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: so Josie was my real life um nanny and um 342 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: sana from Yeah, I mean at the age of about 343 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: read to about four and a half, so not for 344 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: too long, but but we were like so close. And 345 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: then it all started coming back to me that we 346 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: would talk. I'm looking at each other and I studied. 347 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: All these memories started to come rushing back, and she 348 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: would she would talk to me while I while I 349 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: was in my you know, pram or my you know, 350 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: or hanging out playing with toys, and I could see 351 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: that her lips weren't moving, and it all started like 352 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: coming back, and I just had somehow psychologically just like 353 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: blocked it all out. Um but whatever reason. Um, And 354 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: she said that we can talk now. Well that's amazing. 355 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: So she became essentially your spirit guide. Correct, she became 356 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: my spirit guide. Yeah, And then lo and behold, and 357 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: I I found out finally after about a year or 358 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: two digging around and um and asking people, I've come 359 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: to find out that she had died. She had passed 360 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: in so a couple of years before I came to 361 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: the States. Um and um, yeah, it's just it's just 362 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: up your world, that's that's uh. Yeah, I'm I would say. 363 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: Hearing voices suddenly that has a name to it and 364 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: an identification that you can relate to is pretty fascinating stuff. 365 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: It can really flip a person's life on its side 366 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: and make you look at it again with new eyes. 367 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna get to our next break 368 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: and continue this conversation here with Rob Thompson. Do you 369 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: guys you are listening to Dark becomes Light with me 370 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 371 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: Coast a AM Paranormal Podcast Network. You stick around, we 372 00:25:53,720 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: will be right back. 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Now back to Heidi and Dark 383 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: Becomes Light on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 384 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: Coast a M para Normal Podcast Network. Welcome back. You 385 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: are list thing too. Dark becomes Light with me Heidi 386 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 387 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I have Rob Thompson with me, 388 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: and he was sharing about his paranormal beginnings and how 389 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: he came to understand that he was gifted in a sense. 390 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I was fine. It fascinating because 391 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: sometimes it takes a good nagging by these things to 392 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: keep on happening, to get us off our duff and 393 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: to get moving and figuring it out. But you took 394 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: it to a whole new level. You have a program, 395 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: and I'd love to hear more about it if you could. Yeah. So, 396 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: um the Ghost Finders is a show that I started 397 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: in UM and and and simply because of my two passions, 398 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: my love of filmmaking TV UM and my love of 399 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: the paranormal and and just multitude of love that I 400 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: have for both genres, and this this was a way 401 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: to combine the two. Um. So really sort of it 402 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 1: was like Jason Hawes and Grant Wilson that that, you know, 403 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: when they started ghost Hunters that really inspired me to 404 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: start also video documenting my investigations over here in the States. UM. 405 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: At that point, I had already been investigating for quite 406 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: a few years. I think one of the things that 407 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: although I felt very inspired, you know by a lot 408 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: of the TV mediums and a lot of the mediums, 409 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: a few of the mediums that I know, I was 410 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: definitely not ready to quote unquote come out. You know 411 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: what I mean, I was just I was okay, I 412 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: was the investigator. So what I what I did was, 413 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think along around season two or three, 414 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: I started having a medium come on board, you know 415 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: as past and that was Amber, and you know, I 416 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: just really wanted to see how this was done in 417 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: front of a TV audience. You know, I really wanted 418 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: to just like you know, I wanted to have this, 419 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: but I just was not really was well too way 420 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: too self conscious to to really you know, come out 421 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: um as someone with an ability in that way. Um. 422 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: And then it wasn't really until season five or six 423 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: that I did that, and that a friend of mine, 424 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: God rest his soul, Dereka cora Um from Most Haunted. UM. 425 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: He was a spirit medium who had just over a 426 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: year ago. And that's rob you know, I mean, I know, 427 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: I know yourself conscious and you're gonna get you know, 428 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: you've gotta have a thick skin. Number one. You should 429 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: know that anyway, because you're on TV number two, it's 430 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: not going to make any difference. You're given this ability, 431 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: this gift for a reason, and it's far bigger than 432 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: your You your ego or or the TV show. It's 433 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: about helping spirit and helping people, you know, transition, helping 434 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: them with closure for their loved ones, you know that 435 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: they left behind. And in a sense, you know, he 436 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: just like maybe realized, Okay, there's just no easy way 437 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: to do it, so I just dove right in. That's amazing. 438 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: So how do you feel when you go into a 439 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: haunted location? Like are you able to hear, see, and 440 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: know like a past? I mean, what comes to you? 441 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: And how does it present itself? Okay, so well, well, 442 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: you know, for the for the first um, and I 443 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: suppose between like six seasons, sort of like six and eight. Um, 444 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: I was rough shot, just running into this with very 445 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: little you know, direction, um, just not at all following 446 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: protocol and in terms of protection, you know, learning how 447 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: to shield and how to develop and hone this disability 448 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: because you know that that's what you need to do. 449 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there's one thing to have to realize you 450 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: have the ability, but developing it ship, learning to shield 451 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: yourself and learning you know, there's so many aspects that 452 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of realized, okay, I was letting 453 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: people in that I didn't I shouldn't be on a 454 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: couple of occasions. You know that there were, um, there 455 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: were spirits that were very forceful and aggressive and wanted 456 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: to take over or wanted to vocalize through me. And 457 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a just sturt being 458 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: experienced because I just like I said, I was rough 459 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: shotting it. Um oh, please do share some details, like 460 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: what this had to be one of your scariest It 461 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: was terrifying. It was terrifying. Yeah, well I was. I 462 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: was in an old former hospital in Carbondale, Pennsylvania, and 463 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: it was it was one of our people were traveling 464 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: down the stairs because they were like upset about something 465 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: that they'd seen on her. One of our Karen, one 466 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: of our our around, asked then and I ran on 467 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: up and to see if she was okay. And as 468 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: soon as I got to that floor where she was, 469 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: I started feeling, um, like my throat closing up, like 470 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: like someone was grabbing me but from and as this 471 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: sounds really crazy, but but grabbing me from the inside 472 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: of my throat, and I was I was, I was 473 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: going it would have been a goner. I mean I 474 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: literally could not breathe at all. And this is on camera, 475 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: and the camera and say you rob rob Rob rob Bob, 476 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: Should I stop you? Okay? Okay? And Heather was with 477 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: me and she's she started to uma recite the Lord's 478 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: Prayer and it was it just subsided. After about thirty 479 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: seconds or so, it's slowly started to subside. And I've 480 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: never been so scared in my I know it. I 481 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: know it sounds really Hollywood. Oh no, no, no, no, 482 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: we are not shy talking about being rescued by sprinkling 483 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: some Jesus on it. Okay. So yeah, we talked about 484 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: that a lot on this program because it's here you are. 485 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, this is uh literally that's that's the saying 486 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: sprinkles from Jesus on it, because you know, people are 487 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: all into, oh, let's get scared, let's look at this 488 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: bookie stuff. But it's like, hold on, when the chips 489 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: are down, who's going to get you out of this situation? Well, 490 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: you better hope there's an polar opposite called God Jesus. 491 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: You know, uh, you know, never have any shame in 492 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: calling on it because it has saved me several times. 493 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: So I feel you, so, I mean, And that was 494 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: that was just one sort of that that was one 495 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: of the first occasions it was like, yeah, I gotta 496 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: look more into this because I need to be more careful. 497 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: And another occasion at pen Hurst Asylum where I literally 498 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: was entered by the spirit of someone called Mr Jim, 499 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: who was one of the caretakers there and who was um, 500 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: let's just sort of say, um, he was a menacing 501 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: individual that was um praying on the younger um pay 502 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: you want to say, patients or inmates, you know, really 503 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: they couldn't leave so um. And at that point I 504 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: blacked out and woke up in another room with the 505 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: camera crew and cast like Rob, Rob, Rob me okay. 506 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: And I watched the footage afterwards, you know when we 507 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: were in post and I could I couldn't watch. I 508 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: couldn't watch it. I was just I was just like, so, 509 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: the best way I can I can put this is, 510 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: let's just say you go to Vegas and you get married, 511 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: so of like like that that that movie where they 512 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: call it the Hangover and people are like, oh, Rob, 513 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: you know last night you were dancing in the fountains 514 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: and then you went married. You got wait and got 515 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: married to the taxi driver like another person. It just 516 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: wasn't you. And I was just like oh yeah, yeah, right, 517 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: right right, And I watched it and it just weirded 518 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: me out so much. It was So, did you amp 519 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: up your defenses for when you do step into places 520 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: like that? I mean, if they were able to get 521 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: to you like that, I would imagine you did something different. Yeah. 522 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: So I I spoke to medium friends, I did research, 523 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 1: and I began taking UM lessons on on how to shield, 524 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 1: on how to develop this disability UM. And a matter 525 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: of fact, one of my best friends who is is 526 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: a mediumship teacher under the medium. She certified under Lisa Williams, 527 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: the British celebrity medium UM and her name is diet 528 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: Renee and she is my spiritual mediumship UM master teacher 529 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: and UM and has been a very big integral part 530 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: of my learning process that is continuing, will always continue 531 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: with like everything else. Yeah, I always tell people, you know, 532 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: nobody has all the answers, and if anybody says they do, 533 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: run it's always a growing learning situation, especially when it 534 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: comes to the extraordinary. So I'm glad you said that. Yeah, 535 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: And I mean because because really, my my whole life, 536 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: my whole lot of my adult life, I've certainly lived 537 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: UM and talk to talk and walk the walk in 538 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: terms of how you conduct yourself spiritually. You know a 539 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: lot of people forget that, you know, spirits, don't you 540 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: know when you pass, when you transition, you don't suddenly 541 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: you know, become uh this this you know, how can 542 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: I put it? You don't. You don't change your personality necessarily, 543 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: you have um used. I want to be treated with dignity, 544 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: you know, you don't suddenly want to be barked at 545 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: and the like, let me press this, show yourself, show yourself, 546 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 1: and and be barked at with all these crazy commands. 547 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: Push this, make this light up, make that light up, 548 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: Make jump through here, you know, like like a circus 549 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: animal jumping through hoops. So, you know, occurred to me 550 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: that there was just too much of this really really 551 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: becoming the norm in this field from what we're seeing 552 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: on the shows. Yeah, so so I I thought, you know, 553 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: more flies with a honey, you know type of approach, 554 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: And how about we'd be dignified and respectful and you know, 555 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: actually reach out and try and establish a level of trust. 556 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure if we do that that will get better responses, 557 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, and and maybe even maintained and Yeah, sure 558 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: enough that that was the case. I actually had I 559 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: cast fort of which we've got to get to our 560 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: next break. So hold that thought. You guys. You are 561 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on 562 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast am para 563 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: Normal Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll be right back. Hang 564 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: in there. Heidi's coming right back on the I Heart 565 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast a M Paranormal Podcast Network. Hey, 566 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: it's you, George and Ori, and thank you for listening 567 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a 568 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: M Panormal Podcast Network. Here we go with more Dark 569 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. Welcome back. You are listening 570 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: to Dark Becomes Light with me, Heidi Hollis on the 571 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 1: I Heart Rate You and Coast to Coast am para 572 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: Normal Podcast Network. I have Rob Thompson and he was 573 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: sharing with some of his very very spooky adventures when 574 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: it comes to his program Ghost Finders, and you were 575 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: just about to tell us about a witch that she 576 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: came across. Yes, So so I decided, okay, how can 577 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: we show up at the location and make it really 578 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: clear that we're not like the guys before, you know, 579 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: because a lot of these locations have had hundreds of 580 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: groups going through them, you know, especially the bigger places 581 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: you know Waverley Hills or Eastern State Penitentiary, you know, Penhurst, etcetera, etcetera. 582 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: So I decided to enlist the professional services of a 583 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: practicing which I didn't know too much about it, but 584 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: I wanted. The point was that I thought it would 585 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: be a good thing for us to arrive at a 586 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: location and before sort of really you know, beginning dialogue, 587 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: before beginning to investing asian um, to actually establish with 588 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: them a level of trust. So by doing my thought was, 589 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: my thought process was if I do have the which 590 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: do a ritual, you know, like a gift giving or 591 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: a friendship ritual, that it would it would you know, 592 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: be a catalyst for that. So UM come to meet 593 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: this fantastic lady UM which practitioner eclectic, which called Megan Deputy, 594 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: and she joined us around season seven and she's been 595 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: with us ever since. And you know, r m OH 596 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 1: is literally all about respect. It's about what can we do? 597 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: Is there a way that we might be able to 598 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: help you, even if it's just you vocalizing you know, um, 599 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: telling your story or or you know, whatever it may 600 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: be that we can offer you instead of showing up 601 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: embarking demands. Um. Yeah, we do see that quite a 602 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: bit on a lot of these different types of shows. So, well, 603 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: that's a unique approach. And you guys are in your 604 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: tenth season correct. Um. Yeah, well, actually Tennis Is is 605 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: already in the can and um, we're working on season 606 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: eleven right now. So yeah, yeah, And we're on Power Flicks, 607 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: which is probably the most extraordinary unique network that's designate 608 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: designated for you know, everything, paranormal, spiritual, metaphysical. They've just 609 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: been absolutely fantastic embracing this show. So we're on Para Flicks. 610 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: We're also on Amazon Prime. Season nine is on Amazon Prime. Um, 611 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: and we're on a channel called the Spirit Channel, which 612 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: is on Roku. And I believe there are still several 613 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: dozen episodes out there of floating around on YouTube the 614 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: sort of like older older, more sort of like rough 615 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: Shop Blair Witch style. That's awesome. And you also you 616 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: have a really fascinating extracurricular activity that you do in 617 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: instructing paranormal classes. How did you get involved in that 618 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: and what are you teaching? I was approached by l 619 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: A City College and they, you know, they said, you know, 620 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: we've got this sort of like exchange student course that 621 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: we want to to really do. We think we're really 622 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: good to have, you know, would you be interested in 623 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: teaching how you coordinate and carry out a paranormal investigation 624 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: and specifically about the landmarks the paranormal landmarks if you will, 625 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: around the United States? And I was just like, what 626 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: that was like, wasn't there wasn't something that that I 627 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 1: was expecting at all, But yeah, I said yes, and 628 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: you know that was that was something that we did 629 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: and I started this past year and I'm hoping that 630 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: that it will be ongoing for this year as well. 631 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: And um, certainly you know, Tom, because it was fantastic 632 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: experience to actually sort of really show people that anybody 633 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: can do this. But there is a you know, there 634 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 1: are protocols that you should follow, you know, for safety 635 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: and common sense a lot of it, but just also 636 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: how to make connection in a meaningful, respectful way, you know, 637 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: is a big part. Truly. Yes, there there's many ways, 638 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: but there is the best way, that's for sure. A 639 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: lot of people seem to get themselves into trouble. I've known. 640 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: I get a lot of emails from all over the 641 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 1: globe and people are like, you know, so I started 642 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: doing e vps wherever I went, and I've got major issues. 643 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: My place became haunted and I'm haunted and nightmares. And 644 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: do you come across a lot of people who are 645 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 1: just tripping up into these things and don't know what 646 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,479 Speaker 1: to do about it? Yeah, I think. I mean, I 647 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: I get so many emails from people like my place 648 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: is haunted. You know my places? You know this is 649 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: and and you know, a lot of a lot of 650 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: people are mistakenly sort of like immediately jumping to labels 651 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: like demon, you know, demon this and demon that I 652 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: think is very easy for a household of people where 653 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: you know one or two people in that household feel genuinely, 654 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: genuinely believe that they are seeing and hearing things um 655 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: that are of a paranormal nature that maybe necessarily aren't. 656 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 1: You know that you work yourself up and up and up, 657 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, people calling me to two in the morning, 658 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: so you wake you up, rob But this happened, and 659 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: that happened, and lo and behold to find out that 660 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: one of the brackets on their pipes had come loose, 661 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, so every time they were flushing the toilet, 662 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: it was like boom boom, boom boom. Of course, of course, 663 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: with your extensive research that you've been doing into the paranormal, 664 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: I know you have have had to come across the 665 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: two characters that I've named defined trademark. Now shadow People 666 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: and hat Man would have been your experiences. Well you 667 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: know what, um, shadow people all right, and I love 668 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 1: that term, and I love hat Man too. Um, that's 669 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: that's whoever came up with that one, you know, that 670 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: would be that would be me? Yes, really gosh, that 671 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: is I mean, it's it blows my mind. I have 672 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: people come on the show and it's like first thing 673 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: on my website it's like origin author of shadow People 674 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: and hat Man, and it's like, oh yeah, I know 675 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: a lot about this, and they try to tell me 676 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: stuff about it. I'm like, oh, I'm the person that 677 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: you're welcome. You know, I'm the one that's been doing 678 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: this for twenty years, putting us out there. And it 679 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: just blows my mind. So wow, so absolutely blown away. Man. 680 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: I was just like really cool, Well, you know what 681 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: shadow People are are an extraordinary phenomenon because they're so 682 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: so sort of shy and so fast. Yes, i mean, 683 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: I'm just like blown away by how they operate and 684 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: and it almost seems like they are sort of intuitive 685 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: in a in a very deep way, because it's almost 686 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 1: like as soon as you're aware, like literally the same 687 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: millersecond that you're aware, did I just see something? It's 688 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: like they know that you're aware, and they're gone, you know, 689 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: and it all happens in a flash. I've I've never 690 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: felt that particular phenomenon. I've never felt threatened by the 691 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: presence of shadow people. Um, I'm just intrigued. I'm just 692 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: really intrigued. Yeah, I mean it's it's creepy, it's you know, 693 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: as creepy as hell. But I it's a phenomenon that 694 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: I've that I want to know more about, like like 695 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: everything in this field and one of the things, um 696 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: and as far as that hat man um, I confess 697 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: to not having had any personal experiences myself. And yeah, yeah, 698 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: because I mean it's it's sort of a double edged sword, 699 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: isn't it. Really. You know, there's so many people that say, 700 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: you know what, I've never had an experience of that, 701 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: and I'm really kind of glad of it. And then 702 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: and the new sort of like, I don't know, you're 703 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: a little bit jealous. Well, you know, I want to 704 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: have an experience like and you feel that way until 705 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: you do. It's just like a full bodied apparition that 706 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: suddenly presents in your face when you turn around and 707 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 1: look at it. You know, it's terrifying stuff. The day 708 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 1: I said this before, you know, people say to me, Rob, 709 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: how are you not scared walking around in an asylum 710 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: at one am in the pitch dark you can't even 711 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 1: see your hand in running your face, And I said, 712 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: of course I'm scared. I mean, of course, it's it's 713 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's an adrenaline thing, you know, 714 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 1: an adrenaline junkie. And the day that I stopped feeling 715 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: that thrill, that sense of amazing privilege to have that 716 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: connection with spirit, it will be the day that I 717 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 1: stopped doing this, and hopefully that will be never. Well. Yeah, 718 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: so it's a true passion and that I totally get. 719 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's what gets us up in the morning. 720 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: For me, it's to try to inform people warned the 721 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: world of things that are going on. And you know, 722 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: for the longest time. When it came to shadow people 723 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: in hat Man ghost Hunters would tell me, oh no, no, 724 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: those aren't real. It took a long time to get 725 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: it to stick. And then somehow that that just kind 726 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: of kind of took off and people just forgot who 727 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: did who started what? Who starting this. It's it's been 728 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: a weird time. I can tell you that, Rob, but 729 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: I hear you, and uh, it's been um, you know, 730 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 1: it's it's quite a ride to be involved in this. 731 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: So people can go to your website to learn more 732 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: about your work and your TV show. How can they 733 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: connect with you? Where do they go? So? Um for 734 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: me as a spirit medium, they can go to Rob 735 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: Thompson Spirit Medium dot Com and I can do you 736 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: can book you know, private readings and um and zoom 737 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: I do all of that stuff. And there's also an 738 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: events page to see where you can you know, where 739 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to be performing. And as far as the 740 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: Ghost Finders, it's the ghost Finders dot Com. On Facebook, 741 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: look at sign the ghost Finders and all of the 742 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: social media. When we're on everything, We're on Instagram, um, 743 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: the whole lot. But if you look for us on 744 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,919 Speaker 1: Facebook at the ghost Finders is our our page there 745 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 1: and you can find us on Amazon Prime, where you 746 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: know we have a season. Season nine is on Amazon Prime. 747 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: We're also on Para Flicks, which is the Para Flicks. 748 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: You can go to para flicks dot com or the 749 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: parafix app. Really looking forward to bringing our content to 750 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: the Dark Zone, really bringing this show to everybody. Very cool. Well, 751 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: I want to thank you so much for coming on 752 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: the program. This is really really insightful stuff and the 753 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: pleasure is all mine. Thank you so much, and I 754 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: hope you'll have me back sometime. Fabulous. Well, we have 755 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: come to the bottom of another fun episode. I hope 756 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: you enjoyed it as much as I have. And remember 757 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: go to my main website, which is Heidi Holice dot 758 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 1: com or shadow Folks dot com and tell me what's 759 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: going on out there. What have you experienced that you'd 760 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: like to have aired here on the program, gained some 761 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: insight on, or if there's certain articles out there or 762 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 1: research that you want to share or point out, just 763 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: reach out to me. You could also directly email me 764 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: at Heidi Hollis at gmail dot com. And don't forget 765 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: to check out my Paranormal comic strip. Follow me on 766 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: Instagram at the Outlanders Comic You can also find me 767 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: at one Heidi Hollis on Instagram and Facebook and TikTok. 768 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: And I'm telling it, I put everything with a one 769 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: in front of Heidi Hollis. It just seems there's other 770 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: Heidi hollis Is out there, so I had to choose 771 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: and throw one at um. It happens, all right, Well 772 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 1: you know what we uh, We're gonna have to cut 773 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: it off here. You guys, you have been listening to 774 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 775 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 776 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Please stay safe, everybody. Goodbye. 777 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: H Well, if you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, 778 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: wait till you hear the next one. You've been listening 779 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: to the I Heart Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal 780 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: Podcast Network m