1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: We are here every day from one until four o'clock 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: and then after four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: on the iHeart app, and you can listen to that. 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: It's the podcast. It's the same as the radio show, 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: and you hear whatever you missed. We had a big 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: show coming up today after a one thirty We're gonna 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: have Michael Sellenberger on, the journalist and author. We've had 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: him on quite a few times over the years and 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: he has a great news site, public dot news and 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: analyzing a lot of California government news and Gavin Newsom, 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: and he'll be on after one thirty to talk about 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: Newsom because he he he had a piece this week 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: entitled to Gavin Newsom is the worst Governor in America, 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: zeroing in on the homelessness crisis and Gavin Newsom's role 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: in spending an enormous amount of money, even more than 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: I knew and making it a lot worse and uh, 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: it's he really it's quite an indictment that Schellenberger lays out. 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: And so we'll get to that coming up after one 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: thirty now, uh next hour at two o'clock. Two trials 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: that we're going to cover in detail. One the Menendez brothers, 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: Michael Monks the resentencing, which I want to talk about 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: in just a minute. And then Laura Ingle is going 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: to be on to talk about the Ditty trial because 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: there's so many disgusting aspects to that. So Menendez and 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: the Ditties or the Menendez Is and Diddy coming up, 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: and I tell you I I'll let Michael go into 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: the details of what happened yesterday at the hearing, but 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: the headline is they are gonna they got resentenced. It's 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: possible they could, they can get paroled and get out soon. 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: And Michael talked about what went on in the courtroom yesterday. 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: What I want to talk about. I want to start 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: out by saying how much I hate the existence of 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: the Menendez brothers. I just hate that they exist, that 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: they're alive, that they weren't executed. I hate the story 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: very much. I hate all the stupid documentaries about them. 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: I hate the TikTok people that glamorize and worship these 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: two bastards. These are sick, violent, psychopaths. I hate Mark 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: Garrigos prancing around acting like he's the savior for justice 41 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: because he should know better. I mean, he he's just 42 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: always doing theater, pays the bills. But the idea that 43 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: the world's going to be a better place because Lyon 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: Menendez Lyon and Eric Menendez are going to be walking 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: free is just such an atrocity. It's not quite as 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: bad as oj being released because at least these two 47 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: a holes spent thirty five years in prison. Do you 48 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: know what they're Do you know what their original sentence was? 49 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: And in fact, because there has been so much, much 50 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: long running debate about them getting out, getting resentenced, getting paroled, 51 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: I actually forgot what was the original six. 52 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: Wasn't it life without parole? 53 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: Correct? Very good, you're off to a hot start today. 54 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: Yes, it was a life sentence without parole for both 55 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: of them. So I'm thinking, how sick did this state get? 56 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: And it's a voter's fault. It's your fault if you 57 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: vote this way. You've repeatedly voted for this progressive legislature, 58 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: which I'm not even going to use the term whittled. 59 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: They took an axe and they chopped the justice system apart, 60 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: and it's laying now in pieces. It's busted. And now 61 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: you have two guys who blew their parents' heads off 62 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: with shotgun blasts and have been able to manipulate the 63 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: system so they could be out free in a matter 64 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: of months. I guess it could happened quickly. How do 65 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: you go from life without parole? Shouldn't there be? Is 66 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: this asking too much that if you're sentenced to life 67 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: without parole, that's it? How do you end up with parole? 68 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: How do you end up well short of a life sentence? 69 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: On top of that, they killed two people, so the 70 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 2: judge back in the mid nineties sentenced them consecutively to 71 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: life without parole. 72 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 1: So it's life without parole. 73 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: You die, they dig your body up, and then it's 74 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: another life sentence without parole. So don't wonder why I 75 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: want the death penalty for people. This is exactly why, 76 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: this is why we should execute people, and execute them 77 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: in a matter of months, in fact, execute them before 78 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: they even appeal, especially the mother, the mother who did 79 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: not sexually abuse them. They blew off dad's head, then 80 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: they reloaded their rifles and mom is crawling away on 81 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: the floor, and then they blow off her head. 82 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: And for that you get out of prison in your fifties. 83 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: That's darned words beyond disgusting, revolting, appalling, hideous, obscene. I'm 84 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: out of words. Maybe I should start talking French. There's 85 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: no English words left. But who started this? Gascone? Right, 86 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: He's the one who filed the original request. This is 87 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: Gascone's last gift. He left in the toilet, started the 88 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: process of Menendez gets out and then these horrific laws 89 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: that were passed by this insane legislature. And you know what, 90 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: other people get let out this way as well. We 91 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: just don't know about him because they weren't famous, but 92 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: they've been letting other killers out. 93 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: Now. 94 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: Now ultimately Newsom as the power here, which does slightly 95 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: entertain me. 96 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: Well, you know what I'm thinking, because Newsom seems to 97 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: be changing course and wanting to be less progressive. 98 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: It's not going to surprise me. 99 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: If he says no way, only because he's running for president. 100 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: He can block the parole. Yes, and although I think 101 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: there's even mechanisms the Menendi will have even beyond that, 102 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: but he can block the parole. He can also choose 103 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: not to give him clemency because that was another avenue 104 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: where he just basically says, all right, you served enough time, 105 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: and the governor has those powers. You know, president has 106 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: those powers too. And I'm wondering I was thinking the 107 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: same thing you did, because he is. He's running pretty 108 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: fast away some of his away from his old disastrous positions, 109 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: at least rhetorically. He hasn't changed any policies yet. That's 110 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: something I want to talk with Michael Schellenberger about when 111 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: he comes on too. You know about Newsomb clearly running 112 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: for president and shedding words the rhetoric on some of 113 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: his policies. But he hasn't changed anything because you NewsOne 114 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: remember blocked the release of Sir Hans Sir Haan, who 115 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: was the killer of Robert F. Kennedy, and Robert F. 116 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: Kennedy was Newsome's idol. In fact, I think he still 117 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: has a portrait of Kennedy in the hallway leading to 118 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: his office, and I thought, you know what, he's not 119 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: gonna He's not going to sign off on parole for 120 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 2: Sir Hans Sir Han. Now, this is the guy murdered 121 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: your id all, He's not going to do it. I 122 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: mean Kennedy is the reason. You know, the little child 123 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: that Gavin Newsom was and it still is in many ways. 124 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 125 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: He did that photo spread right in Vanity. 126 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: Fair recreating uh John and Jackie Kennedy. Yes, with Kimberly 127 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: gild Girl Foyle played the. 128 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: Role of Jackie Kennedy. He played the role of John Kennedy, 129 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: which reminds me I got a turn of commercial. I 130 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: just show these photos that Michael Schellenberger dug up to 131 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: illustrate his his story on Newsome being the worst governor. 132 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: Found photos when Newsom was twenty four years old standing 133 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: with two of the young Getty's. You know, the Gettys 134 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: bankrolled Newsom both in his fake wine Empire Wine and 135 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: Restaurant Empire, but also his political campaigns. And I got 136 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: a photo of you of him me, well, you were 137 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: in there too. 138 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't remember. 139 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: Oh well, And you know it's stunning how good looking 140 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: he was at the age of twenty four. 141 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: I can imagine. 142 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: But he looks like such a rich boy, such a 143 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: pretty boy. It's it's it's weird, it's spooky. Actually doesn't 144 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: doesn't look human. I mean, his face is so perfectly carved, 145 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: his hair is so perfectly quaffed, and I just I 146 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: can imagine the kind kind of attitude that he's walked 147 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: around with all his life. Now he's dumb as a 148 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 2: board because nobody gets all the gifts, right, A lot 149 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: of times good looking people are not are not the 150 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: sharpest tool, and many times really smart people are a 151 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: bit hideous to look at. You know, he just say, 152 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: you know, you know, get everything. But he he was 153 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: exceptionally handsome, and he can't let he so he stops 154 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: or Hansarhan getting out all this all this stuff that's 155 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: going on in California, and he's running for president and 156 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: it's so hideous and much of the country is gonna 157 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: hate it. Is he gonna let the Menenda's brothers out 158 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: new some signs off to release the Menenda's brother He's 159 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: going to do that. 160 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: Although do people care as much about that as they 161 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: do about the gas prices in the homeless situation? 162 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: No, but but they that's but that's affects us in California, right, 163 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about issues they're going to play out, you know, 164 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,239 Speaker 2: in Maine or Nebraska, Nebraska or South Carolina. 165 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 166 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: Are people going to care that he let the Menendez 167 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: brothers out in Nebraska. 168 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 2: M it's it's going to resonate because it seems so absurd. 169 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: I think most everyone knows the Menendez story and the 170 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: idea that those guys are good free. I don't know 171 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 2: if it'll make a difference or not, But what I'm 172 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: saying is he's got enough trouble. Is he really going 173 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: to add that one? Because that's a headline that's going 174 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: to stick for a week. 175 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: I say no, I say he's not going to He's 176 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: not going to agree to them being rolled or giving 177 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 3: them clemency. 178 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: That's my I'm just glad. 179 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: He's in the box right now because he is going 180 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: to be in a box to actually sign off on 181 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: this thing. But it's just it's just so overwhelmingly horrible. 182 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: There's violent psychopaths. There's no rehabilitation. I hear garag is 183 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: doing his clown show act about rehabilitation. He's helped other prisoners. 184 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: That is total garbage, absolute nonsense. BS. There's no such thing. 185 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: Psychopathic behavior is a permanent affliction. No one has ever recovered. 186 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: There's no there's no medication for it. There's no cure psychopaths. 187 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: I have no conscience, no remorse, they don't. It didn't 188 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: bother them for what they did. Doesn't make a difference 189 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: that they killed their parents so brutally, and the idea 190 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: that they're victims is absurd. And seeing that pathetic family 191 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: talking about not only the Menendez brothers were victims, but 192 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: they the surviving family members are victims. It's like, God, 193 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: this horrible infection. It's worse than COVID, this victimhood infection. 194 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: Everybody's a victim and they have social status because of it. 195 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: They think they're to hire more a plane because they're victims. 196 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: We come back before we talk with Michael Sellenberger, newsom's 197 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 2: latest backtracking today on another May your Signature issue. 198 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 199 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 5: six forty. 200 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: My wife Debora has got a video podcast. It's Deborah Zara. 201 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: It's Deborah Cobet Live. I just forget if she uses 202 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: two names of pre names for that, Debor Cobet Live. 203 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: It's on YouTube and I think it's posted already. So 204 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: go to Debort Cobet Live on YouTube and I'm on 205 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: there and we're talking about all the hot news of 206 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: the day. So because I'm all warmed up already because 207 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: we recorded it a few hours ago Debora Cobet live 208 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: on YouTube and you could see me in color. Michael 209 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: Sellenberger coming up after one thirty. He's got a new 210 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: column this week on Gavin Newsom being the worst governor 211 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: governor in America and he can prove that statement too. 212 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: And Newsome in his eternal quest to reinvent himself as 213 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: a plausible presidential candidate. 214 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: I sit down. You're not going to believe this. 215 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: He wants to cut healthcare for illegal aliens. Maybe you 216 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: don't know this, and maybe I should break it to 217 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: you slowly if you don't know this, but we are 218 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: spending over twelve billion dollars of your tax money on 219 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: illegal alien healthcare. They started this incrementally. They wanted to 220 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: give it to children. Oh, you can't complain about that. 221 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: Then they wanted to give it to the elderly. Well, 222 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: the elderly need, and then. 223 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: It became everybody. 224 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: Then it became cradle to grave free healthcare coverage. Now 225 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: the federal government doesn't pay for that, that's a Medicaid, 226 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: So the state government has to pay for the illegal aliens. 227 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: That's met a cow do you know how many illegal 228 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: aliens are getting free healthcare right now? You ready for this, 229 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: including you soft hearted, soft headed progressive dopes. A million, 230 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: six hundred thousand illegal aliens are getting free healthcare and 231 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: you're paying for it. And I'm paying for it, and 232 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I don't want to 233 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: pay for it. 234 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: A million, six a million, six hundred thousand. 235 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Can you imagine you can't get a pothole fixed, but 236 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: they got a million, six hundred thousand for people who 237 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: broke the law and came over the border illegally. Newsom 238 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: is an idiot, an absolute idiot. And now he's bitching 239 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: about his budget being in the red. Well, of course 240 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: it's in the red. It's twelve and a half billion dollars. 241 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: It's double what he thought it was. This is how 242 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: stupid he is. You give out free healthcare, you're gonna 243 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: get more illegal aliens coming to California. I mean, all 244 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: you gotta do is scroll TikTok. If you're an illegal 245 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: alien and somebody's gonna tell you go to California. They 246 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: have a blockhead moron of a governor who's gonna give 247 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: you free healthcare to you die and you get sanctuary, 248 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: so he's not gonna let anybody come and arrest you 249 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: and deport you. 250 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: And then this blockhead. 251 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: Is claiming that his deficit is Trump's fault because Trump's 252 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: tariffs is gonna cost the state sixteen billion dollars in 253 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: tax revenue. Of course he doesn't say which tariffs would 254 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: cause that deficit. 255 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Because he made it up, he completely. 256 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, he actually blames Trump because he's figuring his 257 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: progressive supporters going yeah, yeah, it was Trump, Yeah it 258 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: was Strung. No, no, this guy is spending twelve and 259 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: a half billion dollars on illegal as alien healthcare. Get dummy, 260 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: Get this, a third of Californian's forty million residents are 261 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: covered by medical. Wow, that and and that that is 262 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: available to you if you make twenty one thousand, six 263 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: hundred dollars or less as an individual or forty four 264 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: thousand dollars family of four. But then they added the 265 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: illegal aliens a million six and the federal government doesn't 266 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: cover that. 267 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: So his idea is not to kick. 268 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: Anybody off medical, but he's gonna freeze the illegal alien 269 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: enrollment program, so no new illegal aliens. And of course 270 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: he's gonna do that because Trump already shut the border down, 271 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: so there there's very few new people coming to the 272 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: state and signing up. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna phreeze 273 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: the program and shut it down. Good timing four years 274 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: too late, dope. And he's also going to charge them 275 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars a month in premiums. So the one 276 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 2: hundred dollars, can you imagine getting healthcare for one hundred 277 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: dollars a month? What are you doing following the law? 278 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: What are you doing paying taxes? Do you ever depress 279 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: people ever feel stupid that they pay for this stuff? 280 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: Does it ever occur to you that you are getting 281 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: bent over and ripped off for some absolutely insane, nonsensical, 282 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: weirdo ideology. A million, six hundred thousand, jaye, Why do 283 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: we have a housing shortage? How much land space do 284 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: you think an extra million and a half people take up? 285 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: I understand you know what was there housing shortage? I 286 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: don't know extra million and a half people who hardly 287 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: pay any taxes, and they hardly pay any taxes, which 288 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: is why they're on medical So Newsom is just shocking people. 289 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: It's like he's backing off, and he's not backing off 290 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: on his plan. Nobody's being kicked off, just no one 291 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: new can sign up. But there is nobody new to 292 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: sign up because Trump shut the border down. 293 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: All Right, we come back. 294 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: Michael Shellenberger his websites Public dot News. 295 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: He's got a. 296 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: Piece on why Newsom is the worst governor in America, 297 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: and he can support this talk a lot about homelessness 298 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: coming up and Newsom's role in exacerbating significantly the homeless 299 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: problem here, and I hope he runs for president. 300 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 301 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 5: six forty. 302 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: 'ron every day from one until four o'clock, and then 303 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: after four o'clock we turn into a podcast, John Cobelt 304 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 2: Show on demand and you can listen to what you missed. 305 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 2: I want to talk now with Michael Shellenberger. We've had 306 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: on the show a number of times. Great writers, actually 307 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: my favorite writer on news and politics, especially here in California. 308 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: And he's got a website that you should subscribe to. 309 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: It's called Public dot News. A lot of his original 310 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: writing and some others as well. And what he spent 311 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: some time on this week is, uh, well, we we 312 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: had these these two people on the show some weeks back, 313 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: he talked about he's talked today about Fool's Gold. It's 314 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: a book by Susan Crabtree and Jed McPhatter, and it 315 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: is a whole review of Gavin Newsom's political life. And 316 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: I have I've read some of this book and we 317 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 2: had the uh he had Susan on and what what 318 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: Michael has done is really honed in on what Newsom 319 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: did to contribute to the massive homelessness that's overtaken much 320 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: of California. Let's get Michael Schellenberger on. Welcome. 321 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: How are you great? 322 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: John? 323 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: How are you very good? I really, I really do 324 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: enjoy your your news letter, your new site. 325 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I appreciate that quite a bit. 326 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: And I highly recommend everybody subscribe to it. So you 327 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: focused on in this particular post the other day was 328 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: how much Gavin Newsom contributed to dramatically increasing homelessness and 329 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: crime here in California. Talk about his policies which created 330 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 2: or amplified homelessness, just made everything worse over the last 331 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: like twenty years he's been in office, going back to 332 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: his days as mayor of San Francisco. 333 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty straightforward and I think a lot 334 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: of your listeners will understand this, but the policies have 335 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: essentially incentivized homelessness, drug addiction, untreated mental illness, which are 336 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 4: at the heart of the problem. Three numbers for you 337 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 4: that really stand out. He has spent at the state 338 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 4: level thirty seven billion dollars of our money to make 339 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: the problem significantly worse, a twenty four percent increase in 340 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: homelessness in that period since he took office in twenty nineteen, 341 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: and he's increased violent crime to thirty one percent above 342 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 4: the national average. These are just the straight numbers. The 343 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: latter number on crime comes from a liberal think tank 344 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: called the Public Policy Institute of California. So this is 345 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 4: an extraordinarily bad record. It's incredible to watch him basically 346 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 4: prepare to run for president when you've just got this 347 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: very simple to understand data showing how he made homelessness 348 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: and violent crime worse at great costs to the California people. 349 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: What specifically did he do to make almlessness in crime 350 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 2: that much worse? What policies? 351 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: You know, It's a few things. It's you know, first, 352 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: it's essentially subsidizing housing for addicts and people that are 353 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: mentally and not taking their meds without requiring sobriety or 354 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: some sort of compliance with medical care. The studies that 355 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: have been done for decades show that that's the opposite 356 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 4: of what addicts need. What really works is to make 357 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 4: housing a reward for ending your hard drug use, for 358 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: ending your drug use. It's called contingency management. It's actually 359 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 4: the only form of treatment that's proven to work with uppers. 360 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: There is no sort of medical synthetic alternative like methodon 361 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 4: or suboxone for meth. It really works because it creates 362 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: a positive incentive to get better. By giving away housing 363 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: to people without any requirements of change of behavior, you 364 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: are basically rewarding self destructive behaviors, and then the people 365 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: are dying of fentanyl drug overdose in these little crummy 366 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: motels and apartments all those Sometimes the newer ones are 367 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: very luxury, but nonetheless you're just abandoning people to these 368 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 4: rooms to overdose and die. That you would also say 369 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: these Soros funded efforts to basically allow open air hard 370 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: drug dealing. You have to remember that Gavin Newsom opposed 371 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 4: the legislation that's seventy percent of US voted to pass 372 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 4: last November. That increased the penalties for fensonal drug dealing. 373 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: So I don't know how Newsom's going to spin this 374 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 4: to the American people, but it is the worst record 375 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 4: of any California governor in our history. And Gavin Newsom 376 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 4: is the worst governor in America. 377 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: Why the guys a rich kid from the Bay Area. 378 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: You have photos on your page of him dressed when 379 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: he was twenty four years old, you know, thick, lush hair, 380 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: slick suit. He's with his friends, they're opening one of 381 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: his plump Jack wine shops. And I'm looking at that photo, 382 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: It's like, how did this guy fall in love with 383 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: so many destructive policies that lead to so much death 384 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: in the streets. There's something in Congress between looking at 385 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: the photo and then reading your description of his policies 386 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: below that. 387 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: I mean, John, it's such a great question. I'm so 388 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: glad you saw what I saw in those photos. So 389 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: these are photos of him with the Getties. That's the 390 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: Getty Oil fortune, that's his original patrons. They basically so 391 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 4: his father was sort of the main lawyer to the Getty's. 392 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 4: He helped them to get all sorts of tax benefits. 393 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: He actually changed the law in California. So Gavin Newsome 394 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 4: was identified early as essentially someone that would be a 395 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 4: political tool for the Getty family, the Democrat Party, you know, 396 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 4: the left broadly in California. And he was groomed and 397 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: I just love those photos because you just see he's 398 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 4: just got these movie star looks. I mean, I think 399 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 4: the reaction from everybody was and this is somebody that 400 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 4: could memorize. He dyslexia. He was very good at memorizing. 401 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 4: So he's just I mean, it's cliche to say, but 402 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: he is genuinely a puppet. He's not a thoughtful person. 403 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: He's not a deep thinker, he's not a skeptical person. 404 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 4: So the policies he's implemented are just the policies that 405 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 4: people at the Soros Foundation and the Hewlett Foundation and 406 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: the liberal foundations want and thought would be good. It's 407 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: also ironic. The Getty family has had serious problems with addiction, 408 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 4: like many affluent families, and they should know that you 409 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 4: have to intervene their needs. You have to hit bottom, 410 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 4: you have to raise the bottom, intervene to get people 411 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: that are addicts the help they need. The left has done, 412 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: you know, then we can talk about why that is. 413 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 4: But they basically did the everything that would make addiction 414 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: and mental illness worse. They did it. Gavin Newsom did it, 415 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 4: and he did it because they told him to. 416 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: And now that it's clearly a massive failure, they just 417 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 2: keep doing it. That's the part I don't get. I mean, 418 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: if they're true believers, they thought they were saving the 419 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: world with their good intentions. Well it's a disaster, so 420 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: do something else. 421 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 4: Well, you just said it right there. I mean, so 422 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: the you know, when you divide the world into victims 423 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: and oppressors, as they do, all addicts, all homeless on 424 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 4: the street, all mentally ill people are categorized as victims. 425 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: These are first principles for Democrats in California. To victims, 426 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 4: everything should be given and nothing required. That's the that's fundamental. So, 427 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 4: you know, arresting somebody for breaking the law, arresting a 428 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 4: so called victim for breaking the law is viewed as 429 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: an act of oppression. Mandating treatment to somebody who just 430 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: keeps overdosing, you know, twelve thirteen times. The attitude is 431 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 4: that they would rather have them die on the street 432 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: of offenstional drug overdose than mandate rehab, which by the way, 433 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: is something that humans have done since Odysseus dragged his 434 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 4: men away from the drug addicting lotus flowers in the Odyssey, 435 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: we've known that you have to help loved ones in 436 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 4: those places, you have to intervene. They've opposed those things 437 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 4: out of this very dogmatic ideology. Now there's this other thing, though, 438 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 4: which is that Gavin wants to be president and all 439 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 4: of his political advisors are telling them that this homeless 440 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 4: thing is killing him, it's ruining his chance to be president. 441 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: Can on it? 442 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: Can you hang on a moment for another segment? Sure, 443 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: I want to talk about that when we come back, 444 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: because you can't look at anything he does without looking 445 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: at through the prism of he's running really an active 446 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: presidential campaign. It's clear. Yes, Michael Schellenberger is on. He's 447 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: got a great piece. Public dot News is his website. 448 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: You should subscribe to it, on how Gavin Newsom has 449 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: created it, created and intensified this this homeless issue in California. 450 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: More coming up with Michael Schellenberger. 451 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: Next. 452 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 453 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 5: six forty. 454 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one to four and then 455 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: after four o'clock you listen to the podcast at John 456 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 2: Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app, and we 457 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: continue with Michael Schellenberger. He's got a several great pieces 458 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: out this week. Gavin Newsom is the worst governor in America. 459 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 2: That's the title of one of them at his news site, 460 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 2: Public dot News, which you ought to subscribe to. Well, 461 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: we left off, we talked about his Newsom's disastrous policies 462 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: in homelessness, specifically, so Michael, he's obviously running for president, 463 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: and he's acting in strange ways, trying to embrace right 464 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: wing media figures, trying you know that podcast he's having 465 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 2: changing flip flop flopping his views. He's got a terrible record, 466 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: and it's a visual record. You could see, for example, 467 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: all the homelessness. I don't know how he lasts five 468 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: minutes in a Democratic primary. What is he trying to do? 469 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: What is he going to do here? 470 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: I mean, look, Gavin made a mistake. He listened to 471 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 4: the activist left policy people at the Soros Foundation and 472 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 4: those kinds of places, and he disregarded the hard political 473 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: advice that he's been getting to deal with this problem 474 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: and that's essentially a character problem. He's a very cowardly 475 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: person in many ways. He didn't want to go up 476 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: against all these people around him that sold him on 477 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 4: this so called harm reduction approach, which is essentially the 478 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 4: enabling of addiction. And now he wants to run and 479 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 4: you know, he is taking serious steps. He's changed his 480 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: position on mass migration, he changed his position on trans 481 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: in sports. He's now calling for a crackdown. Although I 482 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 4: think that's mostly just to be able to blame local 483 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: governments when he runs for president so he can escape responsibility. 484 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 4: I mean, that's another characteristic of his reign, is that 485 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 4: he's just obsessed with blaming other people for his own 486 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 4: failures or blaming climate change, blaming other things for it. So, 487 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, it's interesting to see him. I mean, 488 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 4: I will say that I haven't seen other Democrats be 489 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: as strong as he has been in rejecting the really 490 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: discredited parts of the Democrats agenda. I think he's a 491 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 4: bit too late on homelessness. I don't think it's going 492 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 4: to work, but it is notable that you know that really, 493 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: I mean I always say while I'm you know, cynical 494 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: about it, and I don't respect it. It's better when 495 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 4: Gavin is behaving like a politician than a progressive Democrat 496 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: in California because you actually start to get the law 497 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 4: and forced more and you move away from the really 498 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 4: extreme parts of the Democrat Party. 499 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: Oh, he hasn't done much to change power yet. I mean, 500 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: he still won't fund Prop thirty six, for example, which is, 501 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: you know, desperately needed to truly have an impact on crime. 502 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: He voices grave doubts about men and boys playing in 503 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: women in girls' sports, but he doesn't reverse the policy 504 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: that he signed. So is it just seems to be rhetoric. 505 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I mean I think it's mostly he's 506 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: always about doing the minimum in order to appeal to 507 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 4: all sides. I think you're exactly right about that. And 508 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 4: you know, look, I just think the most devastating thing 509 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: is the increase of violent One of the most devastating 510 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 4: things after homelessness, is the increase of violent crime by 511 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: thirty one percent California that happened on his watch. California's 512 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 4: violent crime rates were closer to the national average. He 513 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 4: pushed them to be thirty percent higher. I mean, this 514 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 4: is after years of the media gas light in US 515 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 4: and Democrats gas light in US and him him saying 516 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 4: that somehow that we shouldn't believe our eyes and that 517 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 4: really that crime wasn't increasing, when in fact it had 518 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: increased quite dramatically and remains extremely high. But no, I 519 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 4: think you're right. I think that he didn't have the 520 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 4: courage to actually take action at a policy level. He 521 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: doesn't want to lose that support from the Soros left. 522 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 4: That's the thing. That's why he opposed the legislation Prop 523 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: thirty six, as you mentioned, that's why they're dragging their 524 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: feet to get it implemented. So they're trying to have 525 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: it both ways. I don't think it'll work. You know, 526 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 4: it's a terrible record, and I think really he's been defeated, 527 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 4: I think morally, even though he remains in power. 528 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: You talk about one of the reasons crime increased is 529 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: when he emptied the jails and prisons during COVID. And 530 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: I just saw a story in cal Matters the other 531 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: day that a third of the people they let out 532 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: of prison in one Flourish are back in prison and 533 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: thirty of them are accused a murder. 534 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: YEP, that's exactly right. It's an incredible thing, not only 535 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: but this new book you had mentioned fools Gold highly recommended. 536 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 4: They discovered they had a whistleblower from the prison system 537 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 4: who said that Gavin Newsome lied when he said that 538 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 4: they needed to let people out of prison for COVID. 539 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 4: He just wanted to get all these people out of 540 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 4: prison in order to win the support of the Soros types. So, 541 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 4: you know, look, lives have been lost as a result 542 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: in you Like you said, thirty lives were lost that 543 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 4: shouldn't have been lost because of his reckless and irresponsible behavior. 544 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: You think he goes through with running for president because 545 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: he's not going to be treated warmly by Democratic opponents. 546 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 2: One thing I've noticed, you know, following him all these years, 547 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: he's never dealt He's never had to operate in a 548 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: critical environment between having a one party rule in Sacramento 549 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: and an incredibly compliant news media adoring him. I don't 550 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: think he's designed to take a lot of critics when 551 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: he gets it. 552 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't handle himself. 553 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: Well, No, I think you're exactly right. I mean, I 554 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 4: think he's definitely running. I mean, that's why he did 555 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 4: the podcast, That's why he's having conservatives on his podcast 556 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 4: with him. That's why he's been carefully and deliberately changing 557 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 4: his position on a number of issues. But I think 558 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 4: you're right. I mean, it is the podcasting era, it's 559 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 4: the social media era that has been disruptive. It allowed 560 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: for the election of Donald Trump and a Republican majority 561 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: really only made possible by Elon Musks. Purchase of x 562 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 4: X is not a friendly place for Gavin Newsom anymore. 563 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 4: You know, the media are themselves more skeptical because in 564 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 4: some ways they are now following x which is the 565 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 4: leading media platform. But I think you're exactly right. The 566 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 4: problem for Gavin Newsom and for really all Democrats is 567 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 4: that they need to appeal to swing voters, and those 568 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 4: swing voters agree much more with the base of the nationalist, 569 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 4: populist Republicans Party than they do with the base of 570 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 4: the Democrat Party. The base of the Democrat Party wants 571 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 4: to transgender children, they want trans and sports, they want 572 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 4: they want to make energy expensive. They want to let 573 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 4: people out of prison. They want to leave people on 574 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 4: the streets to die. That's what the base of the 575 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 4: Democratic Party wants. 576 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: All right, one more question. 577 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 4: Voters want the exact opposite. 578 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: All right, one more thing before I got to go 579 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: eight fifty a gallon for gas. How did if that happens, 580 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: How's he going to survive that? 581 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 4: It's a great question. I mean, there's a way in 582 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: which he's still kind of still you see him pivoting 583 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 4: a little bit, But the real world has moved so far, 584 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: so fast in the last year or two, and he's 585 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 4: still sort of stuck in that night that twenty twenty period, 586 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty period when climate apocalypse was, you know, 587 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 4: maybe the biggest issue in the world. I don't I 588 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 4: think he's pivoting. I don't think he's pivoting fast enough. 589 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 2: Good talking with you again, Michael, Michael Schellenberger, Public. 590 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: Dot News, Shawn, Great to be with you, all right. 591 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 2: And Debra mark lottin the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, 592 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You 593 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI Am six 594 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 595 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.