WEBVTT - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Sharp or Square - Betting The AFC + NFC Championship Games! Best Prop Bets, Daniels Set To Be The “Mahomes” Of The NFC?

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<v Speaker 1>The volume all right, Chad Millman, co host of the

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<v Speaker 1>Favorites Sharper Square. All odds provided by DraftKings. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had a rare I don't think I had an undefeated

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<v Speaker 1>week this year three and oh last week. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's actually easier in the playoffs. I've had back

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<v Speaker 1>to back weeks because the quarterbacks are all you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sudden death, it's the best quarterbacks. Yeah, it's don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to start with this before we start with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's this sense that, you know, Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 1>Jason McIntyre's on this thing about the calls going a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way, and I always point back, Kansas City's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the calls. Well, my argument is, we

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<v Speaker 1>all know coaching matters more in football than managing in

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<v Speaker 1>baseball or coaching in basketball. We know coaching college or pro.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen Jim Harbaugh take over the worst defense make

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<v Speaker 1>it the best. Coaching matters in football more than other sports.

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<v Speaker 1>You have like a phone book that offensive players have

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<v Speaker 1>to memorize and system scheme, culture building. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I lived in Connecticut watching all the Patriot games,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can remember watching for years and it just

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<v Speaker 1>popping into my head when they were playing a team

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<v Speaker 1>and a team fumbled, I'm like, God, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots have fumbled since Thanksgiving. And you went back

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<v Speaker 1>and looked and they literally were the team in the

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<v Speaker 1>league that didn't fumble. And I'd asked Patriot players about this,

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, yeah, Bill would not let you stretch

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<v Speaker 1>for extra yards. That was a fine, that was a suspension.

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<v Speaker 1>You could only do it if it was fourth down

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<v Speaker 1>in the ends. Otherwise you were not allowed to stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look at the Chiefs and I say to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>really good coaches are really good teachers, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>teach your way out of penalties with good communication, thorough repetition.

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<v Speaker 1>Damian Woody always told me Patriot practice was different than

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<v Speaker 1>every other practice has Detroit his Jets practices. So what

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<v Speaker 1>your take on the Chiefs get all the calls, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you go back and look at the penalties during

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<v Speaker 1>the New England era, they were last penalized as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a media constructed argument because people are

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<v Speaker 3>looking for reasons as to why the Chiefs keep winning

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<v Speaker 3>other than they have a generationally great quarterback, a generationally

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<v Speaker 3>if not historically great coach. Our mutual friend Ryan Risillo

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<v Speaker 3>had a great stat on his podcast the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>The past two years, Kansas City opponents have been flagged

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<v Speaker 3>for forty eight penalties in the fourth quarter in ot

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<v Speaker 3>of one score games. Colin, how many have the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 3>had in the same period, twelve forty seven. So let's

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<v Speaker 3>not get off, Okay, Well, you have in the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 3>are a coach who has found the perfect cheak code

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<v Speaker 3>for his scheme. He's got a guy who is ultra competitive,

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<v Speaker 3>who can make magical plays, who, by the way, as

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Brady pointed out on your show, having to defend

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Mahomes for four downs in the playoffs is just

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<v Speaker 3>so freaking hard. You don't get to seven conference championship

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<v Speaker 3>games because people are calling penalties against the opponents more often.

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<v Speaker 3>Ask Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson has two MVPs. He might

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<v Speaker 3>get a third. He should get a third. How many

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<v Speaker 3>AFC title games has he played in? How many Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowls has he played in? He is as brilliant an

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<v Speaker 3>athlete and as brilliant a quarterback as there is in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL. He's not getting there. Patrick Mahomes and the

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<v Speaker 3>Chiefs do something different, and I think it. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's in the head of every single team they play.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's start off with the Commanders and the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take Philadelphia minus six. I'm also going to

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<v Speaker 1>take the over. I do think they've played twice. Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>should have won twice, but Jalen got hurt, Kenny Pickett

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<v Speaker 1>came in. So I think the number I look at

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<v Speaker 1>over two games is average yards per carry, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>five and a half yards for Philadelphia. Well, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>that's a physical mismatch. The O line for Philadelphia is

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<v Speaker 1>almost better to a man than the D line for Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not going to change. That's not scheme. The guards

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<v Speaker 1>for Philadelphia are like six seven and a half. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the biggest guards in league history. There are four

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<v Speaker 1>of Their offensive linemen are like arguably the best in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL at their position. So they will run the

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<v Speaker 1>ball and they will move the ball. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think the Commanders will have to score and know what

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<v Speaker 1>going in, so they'll take chances. They'll do some four

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<v Speaker 1>down stuff. So my take is it's a fairly high

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<v Speaker 1>scoring game, which makes me more comfortable laying the six

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<v Speaker 1>with Philadelphia Sharper Square.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was sharp at four and a half, it's

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<v Speaker 3>gotten to six. It actually got up to six and

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<v Speaker 3>a half. And wise guys have been buying back and

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<v Speaker 3>in a lot of the conversations I've had this week,

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<v Speaker 3>and Simon Hunter and I talked about this on the

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<v Speaker 3>Favorites today when we sort of bring in the feedback

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<v Speaker 3>from professional betters, they were liking Washington and it honestly

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make sense to me or to Simon and apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>To you either.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week people were coming in and they were hammering

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<v Speaker 3>the Rams. I love the Eagles all week, and if

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<v Speaker 3>not for Jake Elliott missing a couple extra points, that

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<v Speaker 3>game is not a push, it's a cover for the Eagles. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>same thing this, I don't get it. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>there's so much recency bias in relation to Jaden Daniels

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<v Speaker 3>and both of these games. Weirdly, there is so much

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<v Speaker 3>public support for the road underdogs against the higher seeds

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<v Speaker 3>because of the status of the quarterbacks and the seasons

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<v Speaker 3>they're having. Josh Allen is having a better year than

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Mahomes, Jade Daniels having a better year than Jalen

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<v Speaker 3>Hurts but people are forgetting that this Eagles team is

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<v Speaker 3>not built around Jalen Hurts, right, It's built around Saquon Barkley.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that I tried to unpack

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<v Speaker 3>this week when I was thinking about this game is

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<v Speaker 3>the Eagles win so often with explosive plays. We saw

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<v Speaker 3>this past weekend two huge runs from Barkley, a great

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<v Speaker 3>run from Hurtz. That's how they're scoring touchdowns right. Earlier

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<v Speaker 3>in the season in November in Philadelphia against the Commanders,

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<v Speaker 3>the Eagles were losing most of that game. I was

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<v Speaker 3>at that game. They won that game because Saquon Bardley

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<v Speaker 3>had two long touchdown runs. So you think about explosive

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<v Speaker 3>play as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that random? Can you predict it?

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<v Speaker 3>I think is more random when it's quarterbacks throwing long

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<v Speaker 3>touchdown passes with the circumstances have to be perfect. It's

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<v Speaker 3>less random when it's your running back who has an

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line that is as dominant as you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's by the way, his rushing prop is one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>north of one hundred and thirty yards, which DraftKings has

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<v Speaker 3>announced is the highest total they've ever had for a

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<v Speaker 3>rushing prop in the years that they've been doing business.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm with you, man, I like the Eagles. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's the right spot. I think they're the better team.

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to favor the dominant, physical team.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, is there a prop you could give our

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<v Speaker 1>audience that you like? I like the over in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>but a prop you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, zach Er is over three and a half receptions.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the Eagles defensively on the edges at

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<v Speaker 3>cornerback Quinnyon Mitchell is supposed to play. We already know

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<v Speaker 3>about Cooper Degene and the slab Darius Slay obviously. On

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<v Speaker 3>the other side, that's where Jaden Daniels, who was already

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<v Speaker 3>predisposed to wanting to go to zach ertz if Terry

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<v Speaker 3>McLaurin isn't available, isn't open, I think that that's where

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<v Speaker 3>the offensive opportunities are going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Zach Er, it's over three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting. I was talking on the show

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<v Speaker 1>today ten years ago Peyton Manning, Big Ben and Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>where these iconic legends past their prime. In fact, Peyton

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<v Speaker 1>was in Denver, but I remember thinking at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>she's what is the league gonna do? What is the

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<v Speaker 1>league gonna do and now we've got Lamar, Mahomes, Allen

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<v Speaker 1>and Throwin Burrow. Yeah, but in the NFC ten quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>in the last ten Super Bowl appearances for NFC teams,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of rotational quarterbacks. That's why it almost

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<v Speaker 1>feels like Jaden Daniels has a shot. Hurts would be

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<v Speaker 1>the second time for him. So I do I said

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<v Speaker 1>this today as I watched Jaden Daniels, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the NFC got their Mahomes that every they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>tailing Washington going forward. I don't think it's a particularly

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<v Speaker 1>warm take. I feel like he is either Lamar or Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>But the NFC has had this sort of goff an

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<v Speaker 1>older Stafford, a prickly Aaron Russell, Wilson aging Kyler. Murray's talented,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's just been a lot of these qualifiers and

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't had their no issues, low maintenance, high thrower,

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<v Speaker 1>good mover. I think he's the Mahomes of the NFC.

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<v Speaker 3>What's really going to be interesting. I agree with everything

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<v Speaker 3>you said. What's going to be interesting is next year.

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<v Speaker 3>Next year, the Commanders are already sixteen to one to

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<v Speaker 3>win the Super Bowl. That feels very aggressive. Whyren't we

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<v Speaker 3>saying the same things about c J. Stroud exactly a

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<v Speaker 3>year ago?

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<v Speaker 2>And did c J.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroud not come back down to earth the defenses, not

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<v Speaker 3>spend an off season figuring out that he's not great

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<v Speaker 3>against certain defenses, that it's going to be challenging for

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<v Speaker 3>him to succeed at the level that he did in

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<v Speaker 3>his rookie year.

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<v Speaker 2>And he didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Not saying he's not great, not saying he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be great. But of all the great quarterbacks you just

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned when the season began, c J. Stroud was on

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<v Speaker 3>that list.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's not.

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<v Speaker 3>So next year is there going to be an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to fade the Commanders? Like in reality, the Commanders should

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<v Speaker 3>probably be seven seven and a half point underdogs in

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<v Speaker 3>this game. The Eagles are dominant physically on the defensive

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<v Speaker 3>side of the ball and on the offensive side of

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<v Speaker 3>the ball. The Commanders are not going to have their

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<v Speaker 3>right guard Sam Cosmy, who's their best offensive lineman. The

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<v Speaker 3>eagles best defensive lineman is Jalen Carter. And normally you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to worry about a right guard being out

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<v Speaker 3>as being a challenge for your pass protection. But when

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Carter is rushing up the middle. Your right guard

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<v Speaker 3>might be the guy who needs to grab a piece

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<v Speaker 3>of him every once in a while. You're now not

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<v Speaker 3>going to have a guy, and so all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden these things change. You're already getting the benefit. I

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<v Speaker 3>think of Jaden Daniels being someone who people believe is

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<v Speaker 3>a cheat code, and they're overvaluing that in the scope

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<v Speaker 3>of the entire game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I will say though, that CJ. Stroud didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the mobility edge, which I've always thought mobility's best for

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback in the first two years because as you're

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<v Speaker 1>learning NFL coverages and waiting for the light to go on,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just pick up first downs moving, whereas c J.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud is going to pick up first downs throwing, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he is much more susceptible. As coverages get more sophisticated,

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<v Speaker 1>you face better teams. He had injuries on the old line.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have protection. I think running quarterbacks Lamar. He

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<v Speaker 1>never really dipped mahomes Allen. They just kept getting better.

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<v Speaker 3>Off.

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<v Speaker 1>Was was beholden to how good his O line was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, bad Whitworth good, Whitworth leaves not as good

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<v Speaker 1>or around that time when Whitworth was aging, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to Detroit. Not good, early line got better,

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<v Speaker 1>He's better, So I think I think Jaden. I think C. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud's NFL comp was Goff, and like Goff, he deteriorates

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<v Speaker 1>with really bad line play significantly, whereas I think Jaden

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<v Speaker 1>is Lamar and Mahomes where it's just ascension because he

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<v Speaker 1>moves the chains while he's figuring out defenses and it

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<v Speaker 1>takes about even Mahomes said it was the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>year three when everything just sort of slowed down. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I think he's I think we're really

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<v Speaker 1>looking at something special here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the guy is a brilliant player, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's more evidence that you want to get quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 3>who have a lot of experience playing in kind, who've

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<v Speaker 3>taken a lot of snaps, who've played a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 3>That's always been a threshold for GMS and coaches who

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<v Speaker 3>are looking to draft quarterbacks. I remember when Philip Rivers

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<v Speaker 3>came out, he had played so many games in college,

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<v Speaker 3>people didn't really know who he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was at NC State.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm throwing a name out there, from like

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five years ago. But I remember this so clearly.

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<v Speaker 3>I was at ESPN the magazine, and we were doing

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<v Speaker 3>a draft issue, and it was the first time I

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<v Speaker 3>ever heard a scout talk about the importance of seeing

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<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks on tape with a lot of games as they

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<v Speaker 3>get older. And we're seeing that with Jaden Daniels, like

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<v Speaker 3>his experience level keeps him from being really frightened in

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<v Speaker 3>these experiences because he's so much older than the average

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback coming out, and he's had so many more snaps,

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<v Speaker 3>and he understands the rhythm of the game and understands

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<v Speaker 3>the moment a little bit better in addition to his

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable talent. But I can guarantee you right now we

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<v Speaker 3>can set a number on it. The number of times

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<v Speaker 3>will set it at seven and a half at.

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<v Speaker 2>This time next year. How many times over.

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<v Speaker 3>The course of Sharper Square have I said to you, well,

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<v Speaker 3>commanders are overvalue here because Jaden Daniels is getting too

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<v Speaker 3>much credit and too much attention. I guarantee I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to say that an every other week basis to you

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<v Speaker 3>on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go AFC. I'm riding with the bills. I have

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<v Speaker 1>for the last month. I feel they're the best team

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<v Speaker 1>in football. The Rams had to play a perfect game

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<v Speaker 1>at home to slip by in the Rams, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're a very good team at the end. I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>the one and a half again. I think there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be points scored. I think there's limitations on stopping

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<v Speaker 1>Allan and Mahomes. I think you get into these games.

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<v Speaker 1>Coaches are more willing. Brady and Andy Reid are more willing.

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<v Speaker 2>To take risks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sudden death. You empty the playbook because you have

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks to prepare for the Super Bowl, so just

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<v Speaker 1>empty the playbook. I take the over forty seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half bills plus one and a half. I can

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely see Kansas City winning. I think this is the

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<v Speaker 1>best version of Buffalo for two reasons. One, they do

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<v Speaker 1>not turn it over, they're not heavily penalized, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can't get to Josh Allen. They're the mature version, which

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore hasn't become yet with Lamar. They're still. Like I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this before, Buffalo's always been a Ferrari with Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>They just no longer get speeding tickets. They don't make

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<v Speaker 1>the mistakes. They don't get caught like they slow down

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the cops. So they have all the talent,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't have that sort of and Baltimore's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to work theirself out of this. That's sort of like,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't slow down. We just we go one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>miles an hour. So I think they've become they become

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs, and I think eventually they're going to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs, which they have in the regular season. Sharper

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<v Speaker 1>square bills plus the points sharp ish.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been an interesting number.

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<v Speaker 3>It opened at one and a half, and even though

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<v Speaker 3>the majority of the money, which indicates professional betters like

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<v Speaker 3>the bill, and the majority of the tickets, which also

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<v Speaker 3>indicates the public likes the bills, it's kind of stuck

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<v Speaker 3>at one and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, there's been a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit of sort of juice movement, meaning they're making

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<v Speaker 3>it more expensive to bet the one and a half

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<v Speaker 3>on the Chiefs because they want you to take that

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<v Speaker 3>one and a half because pretty soon they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>go to two. I think that you're on the professional side,

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<v Speaker 3>not in a dominant way. I'm going to play devil's advocate.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything you're saying is right. Josh Allen gets out of

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<v Speaker 3>the pocket. To me, he's as frightening as and frustrating

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<v Speaker 3>as Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes and their running game

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<v Speaker 3>this year has been so freaking good. They played the

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<v Speaker 3>number one team in defensive rush success rate in the

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<v Speaker 3>Broncos and rush them on the ground. They played the

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<v Speaker 3>number two team in defense rushed success rate in the

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<v Speaker 3>Ravens and crush them on the ground. The Chiefs are

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<v Speaker 3>not nearly as good at defending the run as either

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<v Speaker 3>the Ravens or the Broncos. And they're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out how to manage Josh Allen when it's

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<v Speaker 3>third and one or fourth and one, who's clearly unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 3>How they're going to have to manage James Cook. All

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<v Speaker 3>that is true, There is zero evidence colin that Patrick

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<v Speaker 3>Mahomes is going to lose this game. Zero like in

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<v Speaker 3>November on in games where the weather is forty degrees

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<v Speaker 3>or less, twenty three and two in his career. The

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<v Speaker 3>last loss was to Tom Brady in twenty nineteen. He's

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<v Speaker 3>won twenty in a row. Andy Reid with Mahomes with

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<v Speaker 3>an extra day of rest, just one extra day of rest,

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<v Speaker 3>which he has twenty and three fourteen and one at home.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would I want to do this. I've been given

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<v Speaker 3>every opportunity to bet the Chiefs as a.

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<v Speaker 2>Short home dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Mahomes seven straight AFC title games, three Super Bowls

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<v Speaker 3>in the past five years, going for third in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>He is going to challenge Tom Brady as the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback who's ever played, and he might do it before

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<v Speaker 3>he's thirty two years old. Like, what am I doing here?

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<v Speaker 3>Why would I bet against Patrick Mahomes. I had a

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<v Speaker 3>buddy call the other day and tell me I'm all

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<v Speaker 3>over the Bills. I'm like, why and why would you

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<v Speaker 3>do that? With confidence? Like you just can't. It's it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. I'm afraid of it. But there's no

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<v Speaker 3>way I'm betting against Patrick Mahomes. There is no way.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I like the.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw a story this week, and apparently sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>in the media, I think media people like to be

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as smart and they try to figure stuff out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm guilty of this. I'm always trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out theories or why, and sometimes the answer is always

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<v Speaker 1>the simple answer. So I saw a story this week

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<v Speaker 1>and it just made me laugh where the college football

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<v Speaker 1>game was down three million viewers and everybody was flummixed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, guys, men like Trump statistically in this election,

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<v Speaker 1>young men love Trump, young men love football. Inauguration Day

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<v Speaker 1>was Monday, That's the day of the National Championship, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the number was down about three million viewers, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when Notre Dame fell behind thirty one to seven. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the answer, right, Like, it wasn't that we hate Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State and Notre Dame. It was every four years in

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<v Speaker 1>inauguration with a polarizing Trump, who for the record, does

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<v Speaker 1>very well in this election with young men.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I saw the numbers too, It's so funny you

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<v Speaker 3>say that because I saw the numbers this morning and

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<v Speaker 3>I saw a story just the headline, you know, down

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<v Speaker 3>whatever percent it was ten percent or whatever, it was

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<v Speaker 3>right twelve percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And as soon as I.

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<v Speaker 3>Clicked out, and I'm like, someone's going to try to

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<v Speaker 3>explain why this is. This isn't rocket science trying to

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<v Speaker 3>find patterns when you do year over year comps. You

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<v Speaker 3>can do year over year comps with every podcast in

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<v Speaker 3>the Volume network. You can do it with your show.

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<v Speaker 3>The circumstances are always different. We do this at Action

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<v Speaker 3>all the time too. How come this Monday night game

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<v Speaker 3>is down from the year before, Well, who was the matchup?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it a game where you had Was it a

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<v Speaker 3>night where you had two Monday night games play being

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<v Speaker 3>played instead of one? Because when you have two Monday

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<v Speaker 3>night games, traffic sometimes dips a little bit because attention

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<v Speaker 3>is diverted and games start a little bit earlier, so

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<v Speaker 3>people aren't online as early. Like, there's so many easy

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<v Speaker 3>to unpack answers to so many of the questions that

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<v Speaker 3>are asked in sports. It's phenomenal that we try to

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<v Speaker 3>make it as complicated as we do. And to your

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<v Speaker 3>point about politics, mixing with sports, and impacting sports. Two

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, ninety three of the top one hundred broadcasts

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<v Speaker 3>in the United States were sports. This past year, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four eighty one of the top one hundred. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>know why, because there were so many debates and so

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<v Speaker 3>many political events that we're leading the coverage that we're

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<v Speaker 3>getting so many more viewers. So of course there's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be changes on a year to year basis because

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<v Speaker 3>of the overall world and what's happening, not because of

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<v Speaker 3>anything about myopically what we think of Ohio State or

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have, I have. I worked in local TV

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<v Speaker 1>for over a decade and so I still you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I still have friends in local TV. Not as many.

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<v Speaker 1>Many have retired or dodd or things or moved on.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's like you're going to notice over

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<v Speaker 1>the next ten years there'll be a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>renaissance in local TV ratings. Why because of climate change

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<v Speaker 1>and whenever you have severe weather or disasters. Local reporters

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<v Speaker 1>are better than national reporters. They've built trust for the

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<v Speaker 1>audience and they know the terrain. Dallas Reporter, a Chicago, Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, New York reporter if something happened to the

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Bridge. Forgets CNN, I'm watching the local guys, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So LA local news ratings went up four hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>over the last two weeks. And I watched the coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>It was significantly better than CNN. And it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>political It was significantly better than all national coverage because

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<v Speaker 1>the local reporters they all live in these towns and

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<v Speaker 1>they knew They just know the topography and the canyons

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<v Speaker 1>and the history, and so you know, it's you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>watch local TV ratings and you can call it whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want. But we're just getting more severe weather. It

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<v Speaker 1>snowed in Pensacola a foot, whatever, LA had a blizzard

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago, whatever. So yeah, I think most of

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff is fairly explainable. So when local TV ratings

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<v Speaker 1>have a renaissance here in the next decade, that's mostly

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<v Speaker 1>what it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that you talk about the weather component of it,

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<v Speaker 3>because those are the only people I remember growing up

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<v Speaker 3>when I watched local TV, and even here in West

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<v Speaker 3>Herford where you used to live, like Stacy and I,

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<v Speaker 3>my wife and I, we love the local weather guy,

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<v Speaker 3>and I love the local weather guy because he knows

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<v Speaker 3>our town, and he knows all the towns around us,

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<v Speaker 3>and he knows the difference between here, we're in the valley. Here,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a little bit on a hill, so it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a little bit colder here in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>you might have a little more frost. I live by

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<v Speaker 3>what this guy says, and I completely connect with what

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying. What's actually frightening. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 3>saw it this week, but there is one broadcaster that

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<v Speaker 3>owns a lot of local stations that is letting go

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<v Speaker 3>of all their local weather people and having a singular

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<v Speaker 3>sort of source of weather information and segments that is

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<v Speaker 3>then being distributed out to the local channels. It's sort

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<v Speaker 3>of like the single service provider within an organization, which

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<v Speaker 3>is idiotic.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Opposite of what I would do over the next ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Get rid of the local sports guys. Love them to death,

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<v Speaker 1>but everybody's watching some other platform. I want massive weather

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<v Speaker 1>people locally for the next decade. Whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 1>call it. We're just getting more combustible weather, hot, cold, wind, rain, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes no sense, I saw it. I'm like, the

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<v Speaker 3>one thing people care about is weather. It's the only

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<v Speaker 3>thing people are checking for in the morning, Like that

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<v Speaker 3>is what can save local television. And you're going out there,

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<v Speaker 3>you're firing all the weather people. It made zero sense

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero Sometimes I wish Sometimes I wish I was a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>Not because I'd buy a bunch of stuff, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had a second car. I'm not a boat guy.

0:26:57.480 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a jewelry guy or a watch guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a collector. I'm really not. I don't care. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are things I would like. Things I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to do in society they can't afford to do. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest with you, when Fox created a weather channel,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could have been the CEO of Fox's

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<v Speaker 1>Weather Channel. I would have loved that job. And if it,

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<v Speaker 1>if it paid what I make and I could still

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<v Speaker 1>make my mortgage, I was I've always wanted Like Byron Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>the former comedian who became a wildly successful entrepreneur, bought

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<v Speaker 1>the Weather Channel, and I think it's the only time

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever been jealous of another member of the American media.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Byron Allen bought the Weather Channel, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>damn it.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be Byron Allen who fired off a local

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<v Speaker 3>weather people because he was the weather to come from

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<v Speaker 3>the Weather Channel.

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<v Speaker 1>All I know that is forget Oprah. That's the most

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<v Speaker 1>successful local media person in the history of our business.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the one guy I'm jealous of.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just checking right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Alan Media Group replaces meteorologists, dozens of meteorologists with

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<v Speaker 3>pre recorded feats.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we got a call brot Byron and we

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<v Speaker 3>got to tell him we think this is a bad idea,

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<v Speaker 3>and we are very respected and admired members of the media.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a take on the Jaguars firing Trent

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<v Speaker 3>Balky the GM and Liam Cohne deciding to go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the box as an assistant. I'll love Ben Johnson

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<v Speaker 3>the year before in them not being able to find

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<v Speaker 3>someone to take that job.

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<v Speaker 1>Plot twist Bucks offensive coach Liam Cohen has now done

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<v Speaker 1>a U turn is speaking with the Jaguars in person

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<v Speaker 1>for their head coaching job. So when you ask what

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<v Speaker 1>do you make of Trent Bulkey, this, Tom Pelasero reporting

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<v Speaker 1>this and Ian rappap this is what I think of

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<v Speaker 1>Trent Balke. Bulkey's there I'm not interested. Bulkey fired, let

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<v Speaker 1>me turn around the U haul. Is amazing that that

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<v Speaker 1>just tells you that Balkey was the orange cone in

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<v Speaker 1>the road.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the roadblock.

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<v Speaker 3>But it also goes even to prove the point coordinators

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<v Speaker 3>and job applicants and potential head coaches are willing to

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<v Speaker 3>be more selective, I think than they ever have been before.

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<v Speaker 3>And if they don't feel like they're being set up

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<v Speaker 3>in the right circumstances, they're not jumping at a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen's good, Jack Laville, Yeah, no, he's he's good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Baker leads the NFL in touchdown passes the last two seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Mike Evans, I don't like him that much.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, Todd Bowles just impressive. The fact that he had

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<v Speaker 3>Canalis turn turn Baker Mayfield around. Liam Cohen turned Baker

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<v Speaker 3>Mayfield around. He's gonna have to go find him again

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<v Speaker 3>a new guy if William Cone takes this job. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm starting to like Todd Bowles quite a bit as

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<v Speaker 3>a head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his first year in New York, he almost didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know where to stand. He was such a kind of gentle,

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<v Speaker 1>low key personality. He was, you know, in the city

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<v Speaker 1>with Rex Ryan, it was like where is he? And

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<v Speaker 1>he spoke like an assistant or a coordinator. He just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be in front of a microphone. But

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought he was thoughtful that anytime you heard

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<v Speaker 1>him talk, you know, he came across as like humble

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<v Speaker 1>and focused. Andy And I also think the internet doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>allow this. People improve, people get better, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They just yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like like Brandon Staley's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get a second chance, maybe as a coordinator, but not

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<v Speaker 1>as a head coach. But you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys Raheem, Morris, Todd Bowles, there's something there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason you hired him, Like you know, it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like when you get a divorce in life. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason you together for twelve years. I mean there

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>were some positives there. You produce good kids. You know,

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you're good co parenting. There's no reason to hate each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's shit happens. Like you're in big cities. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a bad stretch, your quarterback gets hurt, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a backup on the roster. I mean Mike McDaniel

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<v Speaker 1>from Miami a year and a half ago was the

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<v Speaker 1>bell of the ball and now we're all.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, he's kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't feel like he owns the room like Dan Campbell.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if this works. It's the way it

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<v Speaker 1>works in life sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, buddy, I meant see you later.

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<v Speaker 1>The volume