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Speaker 1: had a rare I don't think I had an undefeated

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Speaker 1: You know, there's this sense that, you know, Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: the benefit of the calls. Well, my argument is, we

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Speaker 1: all know coaching matters more in football than managing in

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Speaker 1: You've seen Jim Harbaugh take over the worst defense make

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Speaker 1: it the best. Coaching matters in football more than other sports.

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Speaker 1: You have like a phone book that offensive players have

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, yeah, Bill would not let you stretch

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Speaker 1: And I look at the Chiefs and I say to myself,

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Speaker 1: Damian Woody always told me Patriot practice was different than

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Speaker 3: I think it's a media constructed argument because people are

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Speaker 3: looking for reasons as to why the Chiefs keep winning

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Speaker 3: other than they have a generationally great quarterback, a generationally

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Speaker 3: if not historically great coach. Our mutual friend Ryan Risillo

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Speaker 3: The past two years, Kansas City opponents have been flagged

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Speaker 3: for forty eight penalties in the fourth quarter in ot

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Speaker 3: of one score games. Colin, how many have the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: had in the same period, twelve forty seven. So let's

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Speaker 3: not get off, Okay, Well, you have in the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady pointed out on your show, having to defend

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Speaker 3: so freaking hard. You don't get to seven conference championship

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Speaker 1: Well, let's start off with the Commanders and the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you, man, I like the Eagles. I

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Speaker 3: Next year, the Commanders are already sixteen to one to

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Speaker 3: Why would I want to do this. I've been given

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Speaker 1: two years ago, whatever. So yeah, I think most of

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Speaker 1: the stuff is fairly explainable. So when local TV ratings

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Speaker 1: have a renaissance here in the next decade, that's mostly

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Speaker 1: what it's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: I love that you talk about the weather component of it,

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Speaker 3: because those are the only people I remember growing up

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Speaker 3: when I watched local TV, and even here in West

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Speaker 3: Herford where you used to live, like Stacy and I,

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Speaker 3: my wife and I, we love the local weather guy,

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Speaker 3: and I love the local weather guy because he knows

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Speaker 3: our town, and he knows all the towns around us,

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Speaker 3: and he knows the difference between here, we're in the valley. Here,

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Speaker 3: you're a little bit on a hill, so it's going

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Speaker 3: to be a little bit colder here in the morning,

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Speaker 3: you might have a little more frost. I live by

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Speaker 3: what this guy says, and I completely connect with what

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Speaker 3: you're saying. What's actually frightening. I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: saw it this week, but there is one broadcaster that

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Speaker 3: owns a lot of local stations that is letting go

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Speaker 3: of all their local weather people and having a singular

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Speaker 3: sort of source of weather information and segments that is

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Speaker 3: then being distributed out to the local channels. It's sort

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Speaker 3: of like the single service provider within an organization, which

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Speaker 3: is idiotic.

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Speaker 2: That is the.

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Speaker 1: Opposite of what I would do over the next ten years.

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Speaker 1: Get rid of the local sports guys. Love them to death,

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Speaker 1: but everybody's watching some other platform. I want massive weather

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Speaker 1: people locally for the next decade. Whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: call it. We're just getting more combustible weather, hot, cold, wind, rain, whatever.

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Speaker 3: It makes no sense, I saw it. I'm like, the

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Speaker 3: one thing people care about is weather. It's the only

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Speaker 3: thing people are checking for in the morning, Like that

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Speaker 3: is what can save local television. And you're going out there,

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Speaker 3: you're firing all the weather people. It made zero sense

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 1: Zero Sometimes I wish Sometimes I wish I was a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: Not because I'd buy a bunch of stuff, because I've

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Speaker 1: never had a second car. I'm not a boat guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a jewelry guy or a watch guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a collector. I'm really not. I don't care. But

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Speaker 1: there are things I would like. Things I would like

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Speaker 1: to do in society they can't afford to do. Like

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, when Fox created a weather channel,

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Speaker 1: I wish I could have been the CEO of Fox's

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Speaker 1: Weather Channel. I would have loved that job. And if it,

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Speaker 1: if it paid what I make and I could still

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Speaker 1: make my mortgage, I was I've always wanted Like Byron Allen,

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Speaker 1: the former comedian who became a wildly successful entrepreneur, bought

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Speaker 1: the Weather Channel, and I think it's the only time

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Speaker 1: I've ever been jealous of another member of the American media.

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Speaker 1: Was Byron Allen bought the Weather Channel, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: damn it.

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Speaker 2: By the way.

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Speaker 3: It might be Byron Allen who fired off a local

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Speaker 3: weather people because he was the weather to come from

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Speaker 3: the Weather Channel.

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Speaker 1: All I know that is forget Oprah. That's the most

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Speaker 1: successful local media person in the history of our business.

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Speaker 1: He's the one guy I'm jealous of.

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Speaker 2: I'm just checking right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Alan Media Group replaces meteorologists, dozens of meteorologists with

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Speaker 3: pre recorded feats.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think we got a call brot Byron and we

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Speaker 3: got to tell him we think this is a bad idea,

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Speaker 3: and we are very respected and admired members of the media.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a take on the Jaguars firing Trent

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Speaker 3: Balky the GM and Liam Cohne deciding to go back

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Speaker 3: to the box as an assistant. I'll love Ben Johnson

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Speaker 3: the year before in them not being able to find

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Speaker 3: someone to take that job.

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Speaker 1: Plot twist Bucks offensive coach Liam Cohen has now done

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Speaker 1: a U turn is speaking with the Jaguars in person

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Speaker 1: for their head coaching job. So when you ask what

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Speaker 1: do you make of Trent Bulkey, this, Tom Pelasero reporting

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Speaker 1: this and Ian rappap this is what I think of

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Speaker 1: Trent Balke. Bulkey's there I'm not interested. Bulkey fired, let

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Speaker 1: me turn around the U haul. Is amazing that that

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Speaker 1: just tells you that Balkey was the orange cone in

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Speaker 1: the road.

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Speaker 2: He was the roadblock.

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Speaker 3: But it also goes even to prove the point coordinators

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Speaker 3: and job applicants and potential head coaches are willing to

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Speaker 3: be more selective, I think than they ever have been before.

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Speaker 3: And if they don't feel like they're being set up

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Speaker 3: in the right circumstances, they're not jumping at a job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Cohen's good, Jack Laville, Yeah, no, he's he's good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Baker leads the NFL in touchdown passes the last two seasons.

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Speaker 1: I like Mike Evans, I don't like him that much.

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Speaker 3: Also, Todd Bowles just impressive. The fact that he had

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Speaker 3: Canalis turn turn Baker Mayfield around. Liam Cohen turned Baker

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Speaker 3: Mayfield around. He's gonna have to go find him again

527
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Speaker 3: a new guy if William Cone takes this job. But

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to like Todd Bowles quite a bit as

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Speaker 3: a head coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, his first year in New York, he almost didn't

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Speaker 1: know where to stand. He was such a kind of gentle,

532
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Speaker 1: low key personality. He was, you know, in the city

533
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Speaker 1: with Rex Ryan, it was like where is he? And

534
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Speaker 1: he spoke like an assistant or a coordinator. He just

535
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Speaker 1: didn't want to be in front of a microphone. But

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Speaker 1: I always thought he was thoughtful that anytime you heard

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Speaker 1: him talk, you know, he came across as like humble

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Speaker 1: and focused. Andy And I also think the internet doesn't

539
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Speaker 1: allow this. People improve, people get better, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They just yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like like Brandon Staley's not going to

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Speaker 1: get a second chance, maybe as a coordinator, but not

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Speaker 1: as a head coach. But you know a lot of

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Speaker 1: these guys Raheem, Morris, Todd Bowles, there's something there. There's

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Speaker 1: a reason you hired him, Like you know, it's almost

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Speaker 1: like when you get a divorce in life. Well, there's

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Speaker 1: a reason you together for twelve years. I mean there

548
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: were some positives there. You produce good kids. You know,

549
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: you're good co parenting. There's no reason to hate each other.

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00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: Like it's shit happens. Like you're in big cities. You

551
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: have a bad stretch, your quarterback gets hurt, you don't

552
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: have a backup on the roster. I mean Mike McDaniel

553
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: from Miami a year and a half ago was the

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Speaker 1: bell of the ball and now we're all.

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Speaker 2: Like, you know, he's kind of.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like he owns the room like Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this works. It's the way it

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Speaker 1: works in life sometimes.

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Speaker 2: All Right, buddy, I meant see you later.

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Speaker 1: The volume