WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Tom Verducci, Mark Schlereth 0:00:00.710 --> 0:00:03.570 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.610 --> 0:00:06.830 Sports Radio. Well, tonight could be the night. 0:00:07.030 --> 0:00:10.090 Milwaukee Brewers, who got swept by the Dodgers last year, 0:00:10.170 --> 0:00:14.050 trying to return the favor. Game four later on this evening. 0:00:14.490 --> 0:00:18.200 You have baseball this afternoon. The Rays and the Guardians 0:00:18.270 --> 0:00:21.939 at 1 Eastern. That was due to weather conditions. Thursday 0:00:21.980 --> 0:00:25.709 night football. Seahawks at the Broncos. The Broncos two and 0:00:25.730 --> 0:00:30.810 a half point underdogs at home. 877-3DP-SHOW. Email address dp 0:00:30.850 --> 0:00:34.850 at danpatrick.com. Twitter handle at dpshow. We'll talk to the 0:00:34.950 --> 0:00:38.980 three-time Super Bowl winner, former Denver Bronco Mark Schlereth. He'll 0:00:38.990 --> 0:00:41.339 get us ready for the Broncos and the Seahawks and 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:47.110 what is wrong with the Denver offense. 877-3DP-SHOW. Stat of 0:00:47.130 --> 0:00:49.269 the Day is always brought to you by Panini America, 0:00:49.310 --> 0:00:52.879 the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Saturday, 0:00:52.909 --> 0:00:56.460 the WNBA Finals begin. Angel Reese and the Atlanta Dream 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.380 take on the Golden State Valkyries. Only one team will 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:05.160 reign supreme. The WNBA Finals, Saturday, 3.30 Eastern on NBC 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:12.000 and Peacock. Tom Berducci, Fox Sports Major League Baseball analyst, 0:01:12.180 --> 0:01:15.860 working the game last night, Sports Illustrated senior writer. How 0:01:15.900 --> 0:01:19.280 did we get here, Tom, where the Dodgers are down 3-0? 0:01:20.900 --> 0:01:23.420 I didn't see this coming. I did pick the Brewers. 0:01:23.459 --> 0:01:26.240 I think they're the better team overall. But, man, I 0:01:26.260 --> 0:01:28.840 thought it was back-and-forth series seven games, and maybe it 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.520 will be. But I think how we got here, Dan, 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.800 if you watched that game last night, you saw the younger, 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:41.220 harder-throwing team just continue to dominate. An older team is 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.770 at the end of its dynasty. Dynasties age out. That's 0:01:44.790 --> 0:01:48.010 what we're looking at right here. The Brewers are throwing 0:01:48.250 --> 0:01:52.630 two-thirds fastballs to the Dodgers that average more than 97 0:01:52.630 --> 0:01:56.010 miles an hour. They're the fastest team in baseball. The 0:01:56.050 --> 0:01:59.810 Dodgers are like 24th in team speed overall. They're finding 0:01:59.890 --> 0:02:02.670 ways to win. The Dodgers have not hit a home 0:02:02.750 --> 0:02:05.490 run or tried to steal a base in this series. 0:02:06.210 --> 0:02:08.670 They have one way to win, and that is to slug. 0:02:09.350 --> 0:02:13.169 And the Milwaukee Brewers pitching staff depresses slug more than 0:02:13.470 --> 0:02:16.950 any team in baseball. So the Brewers, we see, they're 0:02:16.990 --> 0:02:19.740 finding many ways to win. This is uncharacteristic that they're 0:02:19.750 --> 0:02:22.380 hitting home runs. They scored the fewest runs via the 0:02:22.419 --> 0:02:24.780 home run this year of any team. But they're having 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.480 great at-bats that end in home runs. They're not trying 0:02:28.580 --> 0:02:31.220 to hit home runs or seeking slug the way the 0:02:31.260 --> 0:02:31.960 Dodgers do. 0:02:32.220 --> 0:02:35.780 So it's pretty easy to see how– there's no. 0:02:35.410 --> 0:02:37.630 Mystery about how the Brewers are pitching to the Dodgers. 0:02:37.990 --> 0:02:40.390 They're just smothering them with velocity. 0:02:41.270 --> 0:02:43.610 The end of a dynasty or the tail end of 0:02:43.669 --> 0:02:44.310 a dynasty. 0:02:44.690 --> 0:02:44.910 Why? 0:02:44.930 --> 0:02:51.010 You know, you have to start with Shohei because it's 0:02:51.050 --> 0:02:54.460 kind of like the Yankees without Aaron Judge. Everything changes. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.160 Shohei is the best player on the planet. He's a 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.680 difference maker. He's a threat at every time. The Brewers, 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:02.920 if you notice, they didn't bother matching up left on 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:04.000 left with Shohei right now. 0:03:04.139 --> 0:03:06.260 They know they can overwhelm him with velocity. 0:03:06.780 --> 0:03:09.530 He had a hit last night on a plus 95 fastball. 0:03:09.610 --> 0:03:12.350 It's only his second hit against plus 95 in the 0:03:12.370 --> 0:03:16.500 last two months. He's clearly limited physically. He's got a 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.119 left knee issue. He's got a right bicep issue. He's 0:03:19.180 --> 0:03:21.090 not able to spin his hips. He's not able to 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.730 get to a firm front side. The Brewers see this. 0:03:24.470 --> 0:03:26.710 They can go right after him. So I think that 0:03:26.750 --> 0:03:30.389 affects the whole lineup. When your big guy is not 0:03:30.570 --> 0:03:33.810 able to deliver in terms of power, he's had decent at-bats, 0:03:33.889 --> 0:03:35.790 but all he can do basically is flip the ball 0:03:35.810 --> 0:03:39.400 the opposite way, block it the other way. So I 0:03:39.410 --> 0:03:42.640 think that's how we got there. When you have a dynasty, 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.700 you've seen this other sports, Dan. You never want to 0:03:45.820 --> 0:03:48.740 end it too early. They all end too late because 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.200 you have to keep this good thing going. I mean, 0:03:51.220 --> 0:03:53.740 we saw that with the Yankee dynasty to a lesser extent. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.640 I wouldn't call them dynasty. We saw the runs of 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.920 the Royals, the Tigers, the Phillies, you know, all end 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.540 with teams that aged out. And that's where we are. 0:04:01.580 --> 0:04:03.360 And I think the way the game is now, Dan, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.320 there's a paradigm shift going on here. You saw it 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.880 last year with Toronto, but this year, especially the Guardians, 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.390 the Rays, the Brewers. This year, it's amazing to me 0:04:12.450 --> 0:04:15.910 that players in their 20s are better than players in 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:16.990 their early 30s. 0:04:17.220 --> 0:04:18.900 That's not been the history of baseball. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:23.240 Front offices never wanted to trust young players without experience, 0:04:23.779 --> 0:04:25.880 and you wanted those guys that still had physical peak 0:04:26.180 --> 0:04:27.320 and had experience in. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.600 Their early 30s to be at their best. That's not 0:04:29.620 --> 0:04:30.380 the case anymore. 0:04:30.820 --> 0:04:35.150 The younger players way outperformed the older players in baseball 0:04:35.190 --> 0:04:37.469 this year, and you're seeing it in this NLCS. 0:04:37.860 --> 0:04:40.960 Yeah, Jackson Turio is having that Andrew Jones kind of 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:48.020 breakout playoff series, and he's 22, Tom. I mean, he 0:04:48.060 --> 0:04:52.630 doesn't seem unnerved by anything. Well, that's a great point. 0:04:52.790 --> 0:04:55.230 It's not just the youth, but these guys now, I 0:04:55.270 --> 0:04:58.590 think it's because, you know, amateur baseball, college baseball, it's 0:04:58.770 --> 0:05:01.890 so advanced. They've You used to play against guys in 0:05:01.910 --> 0:05:04.450 the town next to you, right? Now these guys have 0:05:04.470 --> 0:05:06.729 grown up playing against guys from across the country in 0:05:06.770 --> 0:05:09.190 major league ballparks. They're not odd at all when they 0:05:09.210 --> 0:05:11.390 get to the big leagues, and they've grown up with velocity. 0:05:11.710 --> 0:05:13.530 So there's no adjustment that needs to be made. 0:05:13.570 --> 0:05:13.990 So you're right. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.570 Last night you had Churio. 0:05:17.130 --> 0:05:19.850 He's the franchise leader in home runs and RBIs, and 0:05:19.950 --> 0:05:25.410 he's 22. The shortstop is 21, and Cooper Pratt, 22. 0:05:25.410 --> 0:05:26.650 The right fielder, Luis. 0:05:26.470 --> 0:05:29.900 Lara, he's flagging down everything there in right field, running 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:30.719 like crazy. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.409 He's 21. 0:05:32.410 --> 0:05:34.710 I mean, it's the first time in history we've had 0:05:34.830 --> 0:05:38.370 three starters, 22 and younger, multiple. 0:05:37.930 --> 0:05:39.479 Times in the same postseason. 0:05:40.060 --> 0:05:42.800 And you look at the Dodgers roster, they had 31 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.100 players last night, or 31 and older players last night, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.180 eight of their 10, including Blake Snell. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.020 I'm not saying you can't win. 0:05:50.060 --> 0:05:51.740 I mean, they're only a year removed from winning a 0:05:51.779 --> 0:05:54.320 second straight World Series. But I think the way the 0:05:54.339 --> 0:05:58.170 game is right now, and especially the fearlessness in which 0:05:58.230 --> 0:06:01.609 these young Brewers are playing, with one year of experience 0:06:01.650 --> 0:06:02.669 under their belt last year. 0:06:02.690 --> 0:06:03.950 Don't forget about it. You mentioned it. 0:06:03.990 --> 0:06:07.230 They got smoked last year by the Dodgers, partly because 0:06:07.270 --> 0:06:09.790 the Cubs series took a ton out of them. But 0:06:09.830 --> 0:06:12.680 I think just the experience of being on the stage 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.380 and knowing how to play in that situation, that has 0:06:16.460 --> 0:06:17.540 really shown up this year. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.220 This is a young team with a little bit of experience. 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.940 Talking to Tom Verducci. He'll be working tonight. Fox Sports 0:06:24.990 --> 0:06:29.690 Major League Baseball analyst and reporter and Sports Illustrated senior writer. 0:06:30.170 --> 0:06:31.969 I know it sounds crazy to say, but I'll say 0:06:31.990 --> 0:06:37.179 it anyway. Is Dave Roberts safe? Yeah, I think he's safe. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.900 I don't think he's had a great series necessarily. But again, 0:06:42.380 --> 0:06:44.100 you've got Pat Murphy on. 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.520 The other side who's got like a million tools in 0:06:46.580 --> 0:06:50.070 his toolbox. And there's not much that Dave Roberts can 0:06:50.130 --> 0:06:52.330 do with this roster that he has. So early in 0:06:52.350 --> 0:06:55.290 the game, Tommy Edmond comes up, leadoff guy gets on. 0:06:56.100 --> 0:06:58.500 If you're a brewer, you're bunting in that situation. 0:06:59.020 --> 0:07:03.030 You're the number nine hitter slugging under 400. Dave didn't 0:07:03.050 --> 0:07:06.640 bunt either time. And what he said was, we're looking 0:07:06.660 --> 0:07:09.620 for slug there. And they're going to wake up Thanksgiving morning. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.820 They'll still be looking for slug. And then you have 0:07:12.860 --> 0:07:15.930 Max Muncy come up and pinch hit. Guys on first 0:07:15.940 --> 0:07:19.770 and second, nobody out. You're down one. I had no 0:07:19.810 --> 0:07:21.770 problem with the decision. It was the right decision. You 0:07:21.790 --> 0:07:25.510 get Muncy against a fastball pitcher right-handed. But you know, 0:07:25.550 --> 0:07:28.810 the bunt's not in the game. And Muncy's a three-true-outcome guy, 0:07:28.830 --> 0:07:31.640 and he punched. So Will Smith did come up with 0:07:31.660 --> 0:07:34.540 the huge hit there, the double. But they have very 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.240 few ways to win a game, Dad. And I think 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.870 his decisions right now are magnified because they have no slug. 0:07:41.890 --> 0:07:45.810 They have two extra base hits in three games against 0:07:45.850 --> 0:07:50.000 this Brewer staff. Let's not forget, they had Tarek Skubal, 0:07:50.450 --> 0:07:54.640 Yashinobu Yamamoto, and Blake Snell all on the mound with 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.140 a lead. and the ball in their hands, and they 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.640 lost every game. It's not the pitcher's fault. They've got 0:08:00.820 --> 0:08:03.700 pitchers under so much pressure because the offense just has 0:08:03.820 --> 0:08:05.350 not been able to generate anything. 0:08:06.210 --> 0:08:08.270 Do you sit Otani if you're Dave Roberts? 0:08:09.430 --> 0:08:11.370 No, I like the way that Dave handled it. 0:08:11.380 --> 0:08:14.370 He brought Otani into his office, and Andrew Friedman was there, 0:08:14.450 --> 0:08:16.810 and Brandon Gomes was there, and the interpreter was there. 0:08:17.830 --> 0:08:20.650 Because Dave sees what we all see. The guy's clearly compromised. 0:08:20.690 --> 0:08:22.910 He cannot turn his hips. He can't get through a baseball. 0:08:23.890 --> 0:08:26.850 And he sat him down, and he basically needed to 0:08:26.890 --> 0:08:28.270 hear conviction from Shohei. 0:08:28.350 --> 0:08:28.820 And he heard it. 0:08:28.910 --> 0:08:33.130 Shohei said, I'm good to go. I'm feeling better. When 0:08:33.150 --> 0:08:36.250 your guy, your all-world player, tells you he's good to go, 0:08:36.790 --> 0:08:37.809 You're not sitting him. 0:08:38.010 --> 0:08:38.690 I'm sorry. 0:08:38.770 --> 0:08:40.449 He has to play. And I think it's going to 0:08:40.470 --> 0:08:41.110 be the same case. 0:08:41.250 --> 0:08:44.309 And I can't see a scenario where Shohei says, I'm 0:08:44.350 --> 0:08:46.990 not good enough to help this team in some way. 0:08:47.750 --> 0:08:49.350 So you have to run him out there. 0:08:49.390 --> 0:08:52.309 I think you create a crisis in your whole organization 0:08:52.450 --> 0:08:55.490 if you overrule, say, Shohei and say, I know you. 0:08:55.390 --> 0:08:56.950 Want to play, but we don't think you can play. 0:08:56.970 --> 0:08:57.949 You just can't do that. 0:08:59.429 --> 0:09:02.110 If there is a World Series without the Dodgers, how 0:09:02.130 --> 0:09:05.290 does that impact the upcoming CBA negotiations? 0:09:06.790 --> 0:09:08.569 I'm glad you brought that up because it seems to 0:09:08.610 --> 0:09:11.090 be a popular theme these days, Dan, that people are 0:09:11.110 --> 0:09:14.250 conflating who gets into the World Series this year or 0:09:14.309 --> 0:09:17.380 who wins it with this labor fight that we know 0:09:17.500 --> 0:09:19.800 we saw coming from miles and miles away. 0:09:19.820 --> 0:09:22.020 I mean, it could be the Yankees against the Dodgers. 0:09:22.059 --> 0:09:24.640 It could have been. And it wouldn't change things a bit. 0:09:24.900 --> 0:09:27.059 This is not a referendum on the state of the 0:09:27.100 --> 0:09:30.469 game in terms of the labor issues. It's like a 0:09:30.500 --> 0:09:33.110 lot of people on a cold day in December will say, 0:09:33.450 --> 0:09:38.090 there's no climate change going on here. Don't conflate the two. 0:09:38.370 --> 0:09:40.390 It already does make for a narrative that's gotten a 0:09:40.429 --> 0:09:44.020 lot of steam. But both sides are so locked in, Dan, 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.800 that the outcome of this postseason is not going to 0:09:47.860 --> 0:09:50.760 change anything in terms of the practicality of negotiations. 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.900 What about the Otani loophole, if we're going to call 0:09:54.940 --> 0:09:59.339 that the contract loophole? Will they try to close that? 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.280 Um well in terms of deferred money yes they'll try 0:10:04.340 --> 0:10:06.440 to close that they're going to try to close that's 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.120 not necessarily a loophole but um be more like the 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.400 nba and some other sports and limiting the length of 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.890 contracts on free agents other than one of your own, 0:10:15.390 --> 0:10:18.390 like the Larry Bird exception. They're going to try for 0:10:18.429 --> 0:10:20.960 a lot of things, but everything they're. 0:10:20.780 --> 0:10:23.140 Trying is tied to a cap. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.320 For instance, Dan, I like the idea of cutting the 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.540 season to 154, having every team be off on Monday 0:10:28.660 --> 0:10:32.000 except for a showcase game that night where two teams play, 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.760 and then they get the Thursday off, and then expanding 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.079 the division series to best out of seven. You can't 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.610 cut the season unless you go, like baseball fans are 0:10:40.630 --> 0:10:43.920 crazy like me, a number that has meaning. You can't 0:10:43.940 --> 0:10:50.530 go to 140 or 151. 154 has historical relevance. I 0:10:50.590 --> 0:10:53.270 like that idea, but again, it's not a vacuum. It's 0:10:53.550 --> 0:10:55.990 tied to a cap. There's some good ideas out there, 0:10:56.750 --> 0:10:58.670 but it's all tied to whether these owners can get 0:10:58.690 --> 0:10:59.270 a cap or not. 0:10:59.450 --> 0:11:02.230 How surprised were you to hear boos last night? 0:11:02.250 --> 0:11:05.280 A little surprised, yeah. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.050 I mean, in some ways, no, because that's where our 0:11:09.110 --> 0:11:12.390 society is at right now. Um, you'd like the home 0:11:12.429 --> 0:11:14.729 team to rally behind their team and, and kind of 0:11:14.750 --> 0:11:17.260 support them at the very end. Dodgers on the brink 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.340 right now. Um, but yeah, I will say, I thought 0:11:20.380 --> 0:11:21.840 more people were going to leave. There were a lot 0:11:21.860 --> 0:11:23.339 of people that get up and try to beat the 0:11:23.420 --> 0:11:26.720 traffic there when you're down at that point, six to two. Um, 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.800 but I thought the crowd was great. They came with 0:11:28.820 --> 0:11:32.179 a lot of energy. Um, we'll see how they react tonight. 0:11:32.230 --> 0:11:34.830 Remember it's an earlier game out here on the coast. Um, 0:11:35.390 --> 0:11:37.309 You know, you don't want to say the season's over. 0:11:37.590 --> 0:11:38.550 I've seen it happen. 0:11:38.809 --> 0:11:39.670 It's a rarity, right? 0:11:39.730 --> 0:11:42.890 It's like Max Muncy told me, like, we started this 0:11:42.929 --> 0:11:45.860 year on a historic quest, right? Trying to win three 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.140 in a row. It looks like we're going to have 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.540 to make some more history for that to happen. It's 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.040 much more rare history than even winning three in a row. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.760 Great to talk to you. Have fun tonight. Thank you, Tom. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:57.060 Always, Dan. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.960 Thank you. Tom Berducci, Fox Sports Major League Baseball analyst 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:07.200 and reporter. Eight o'clock game. East Coast time. The afternoon 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:12.120 game around one o'clock. More baseball coverage. Dan G and Mario. 0:12:12.140 --> 0:12:16.230 Another episode of the Cutoff podcast later today. You can 0:12:16.290 --> 0:12:20.450 find it on the DP show YouTube page and podcast network. 0:12:21.070 --> 0:12:24.449 Dan G knows what he's talking about. I think Mario 0:12:24.570 --> 0:12:27.480 acts like he knows what he's talking about. Makes for 0:12:27.510 --> 0:12:29.780 a good show. Yes. Yes, Ray. 0:12:30.690 --> 0:12:33.739 So Verducci said the dynasty could be over, but I 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.940 looked at the prospect rankings in baseball. The Dodgers still 0:12:36.980 --> 0:12:40.449 have arguably the first or second best farm system in baseball. 0:12:42.309 --> 0:12:43.829 Even after the Scooble trade? 0:12:43.890 --> 0:12:44.990 Even after the Scooble trade. 0:12:45.070 --> 0:12:45.290 Yeah. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.590 Well... I get that you got, I mean, Mookie is 0:12:49.630 --> 0:12:54.830 not the Red Sox Mookie. Freddie Freeman has those moments. 0:12:54.890 --> 0:12:57.710 Muncy has those moments. The problem is the consistency, or 0:12:57.750 --> 0:13:00.170 lack thereof. Like, who are you counting on in that 0:13:00.220 --> 0:13:03.420 lineup right now? Where you go, that guy's going to 0:13:03.460 --> 0:13:07.280 lead us to the promised land. Milwaukee, that roster, yes, 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.900 you have Jackson Churrio, but these guys stepped up last 0:13:10.940 --> 0:13:13.580 night in the seventh inning, and they're working the count. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:18.050 And then you fall back on that pitching staff. But 0:13:18.110 --> 0:13:20.090 if you're going to go up there, and this goes 0:13:20.150 --> 0:13:22.150 back to what I've been railing against, and if you're 0:13:22.210 --> 0:13:26.160 just a, this is what we do. You're like Mike 0:13:26.179 --> 0:13:29.220 Tyson when he would get into the third or fourth round. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.100 He's just trying to get a knockout. He's not going 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.400 to outbox you. He knows he's in trouble. But swinging 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.900 home runs and you're waiting for, as Tom said, a slug, 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.630 that's been part of the problem. Because maybe these older 0:13:45.690 --> 0:13:50.130 bats and these young pitchers with Milwaukee, they're just bringing 0:13:50.190 --> 0:13:56.859 cheese just about on every pitch. Let's see. Zach in Knoxville. Hi, Zach. 0:13:56.900 --> 0:13:57.420 Welcome back. 0:14:00.370 --> 0:14:03.609 ADP, thanks for taking my call. I do have to 0:14:03.650 --> 0:14:07.150 say I stole this idea from PFT, the show that 0:14:07.170 --> 0:14:11.650 precedes yours on Peacock and NBC Sports. But I just 0:14:11.670 --> 0:14:14.059 want to ask you, Marvin Harrison Jr. didn't have an 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.660 agent before he got traded and picked one up. And 0:14:17.700 --> 0:14:19.680 Shador Sanders has picked up an agent. 0:14:20.580 --> 0:14:22.460 Do you see him getting traded? 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.140 And do you think it's a good move for him 0:14:24.180 --> 0:14:25.840 to try to get out in the middle. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:26.260 Of a season? 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.340 No, I think bide your time here. Let's see. I mean, 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.380 Deshaun Watson's playing good, but that doesn't mean you won't 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.960 get an opportunity. Do I think he's going to be 0:14:36.420 --> 0:14:40.400 this kind of player the entire season? I don't. But maybe. 0:14:41.170 --> 0:14:44.450 But if you're Shador Sanders, Shador Sanders still needs to learn. 0:14:44.470 --> 0:14:51.100 And I tell you this from firsthand information. The same 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.160 thing a scout said to me about Arch Manning said 0:14:54.220 --> 0:14:57.280 to me about Shador Sanders. You've got to be able 0:14:57.350 --> 0:15:00.030 to process in the moment when you get up to 0:15:00.070 --> 0:15:03.030 the line of scrimmage. What do you have? What do 0:15:03.050 --> 0:15:06.410 you need to call? What are you changing? And that's 0:15:06.450 --> 0:15:11.340 a hard part for these younger quarterbacks. And I don't 0:15:11.380 --> 0:15:14.280 know if it's a learned trait. I'm guessing it is, 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:19.510 but having that awareness of, you know, my friend says 0:15:19.850 --> 0:15:23.170 Brock Purdy is unbelievable. Brock Purdy might be as good 0:15:23.230 --> 0:15:26.130 as any quarterback in the line of scrimmage with just 0:15:26.170 --> 0:15:29.450 going through progression, like processing it. You get to the 0:15:29.490 --> 0:15:32.590 line of scrimmage. What do you see? And he raved 0:15:32.650 --> 0:15:38.440 about Brock Purdy. He said, mentally, there's nobody who's like him. Now, 0:15:39.530 --> 0:15:43.790 I know that Joe Burrow is pretty good at that, 0:15:44.290 --> 0:15:46.229 where you just go to the line. Now, there's other 0:15:46.290 --> 0:15:48.750 quarterbacks who are. Don't get me wrong. Mahomes certainly is. 0:15:49.150 --> 0:15:52.090 But we're talking about younger quarterbacks. Brock Purdy is a 0:15:52.130 --> 0:15:57.940 young quarterback. Arch Manning is still learning this. And maybe 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:02.300 he stays another year. Shador, somebody who was around him 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:07.200 in Cleveland, talked about how he needed to mature. There's 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.080 a lot that goes into this. It's not just, boy, 0:16:10.100 --> 0:16:12.400 you were great in college. Yeah, there are a lot 0:16:12.420 --> 0:16:15.200 of guys great in college. Yes, Dylan. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.540 Yeah, it's interesting if the whole concept of the football 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.420 IQ thing is a nature or nurture thing. And like 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.290 most things, I assume it's both. But some guys, I 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.970 feel like, start off with maybe a head start. But ultimately, 0:16:26.990 --> 0:16:30.910 it is just, I think, just a learned repetition thing, 0:16:30.950 --> 0:16:32.270 particularly when you go to the next level. 0:16:32.870 --> 0:16:35.010 But Brock Purdy is playing at a very high level 0:16:35.050 --> 0:16:37.530 this year. He's playing at an MVP level. 0:16:38.650 --> 0:16:38.770 And. 0:16:39.700 --> 0:16:42.410 Mark Schlereth, who's going to join us, he did the 0:16:42.450 --> 0:16:46.890 Dolphins-Bengals game. He raved about Joe Burrow. And I'll ask 0:16:46.930 --> 0:16:49.030 him about that. In fact, we'll take a break and 0:16:49.050 --> 0:16:51.320 we'll talk to Mark. A few things to ask him, 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:56.140 including I'm going to run down Nick Sirianni, Sean McVay, 0:16:57.060 --> 0:17:02.840 Jim Harbaugh, Dan Quinn, which coach... is least likely to 0:17:02.900 --> 0:17:07.030 be in his coaching position next year. Take a break. 0:17:07.170 --> 0:17:07.810 Back after this. 0:17:08.590 --> 0:17:10.750 Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan 0:17:10.790 --> 0:17:14.550 Patrick Show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.580 on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.159 The real story isn't told on the field. 0:17:20.340 --> 0:17:22.680 It's written in the lives of the people who left here, 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.900 who started as students in Happy Valley and became forces 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.320 in the world. This is Who We Are, Penn State, 0:17:30.500 --> 0:17:33.879 brought to you by the Penn State Alumni Association, a 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:38.400 show where distinguished graduates return to share their stories. Hosted 0:17:38.460 --> 0:17:42.619 by me, College Football Hall of Famer LeVar Arrington. Available 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:47.439 now on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 0:17:47.890 --> 0:17:50.010 I didn't forget about you. I'll try to get more 0:17:50.050 --> 0:17:52.909 phone calls in here. Update the poll results as well. 0:17:53.390 --> 0:17:56.699 We make way for Mark Schlereth, NFL on Fox analyst, 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.879 three-time Super Bowl champ with the Broncos. He was on 0:17:59.900 --> 0:18:03.760 the call last week, Bengals and the Dolphins. You got 0:18:03.780 --> 0:18:07.370 football coming up tonight. You got the Broncos hosting Seattle, 0:18:07.740 --> 0:18:11.430 and Seattle is favored by two and a half. Mark 0:18:11.470 --> 0:18:15.030 Schlereth joining us. What's the level of concern you have 0:18:15.150 --> 0:18:16.030 for your Broncos? 0:18:17.550 --> 0:18:20.270 That would be a 10 out of 10. There is 0:18:20.430 --> 0:18:23.870 nothing on offense, Dan, that they do well. I mean, 0:18:23.910 --> 0:18:27.690 not one thing. They can't run it. They can't pass protect. 0:18:27.930 --> 0:18:31.169 They can't throw it. They can't get open on one-on-one. 0:18:31.430 --> 0:18:35.670 Their quarterback is a shell of his former self. He 0:18:35.790 --> 0:18:41.210 is just totally unconfident. I'm telling you, nothing they have done. 0:18:42.609 --> 0:18:44.910 Like they would be if it wasn't for the defense 0:18:44.950 --> 0:18:47.879 playing well and it wasn't for the defense creating turnovers, 0:18:48.140 --> 0:18:50.920 they'd be 0 and 5 right now based on their offense. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:52.379 That's how bad they are. 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:57.540 OK, the fingers of blame. Where do they start? 0:18:58.710 --> 0:19:01.660 Yeah, well, I mean, obviously Bo Nix, I don't know 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.200 if it's because of the ankle surgery. I don't know 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.760 where his confidence has gone. But you watch, if you 0:19:07.780 --> 0:19:10.450 go back to the San Francisco game, in the first 0:19:10.490 --> 0:19:13.689 half alone, there are probably five to six explosives that 0:19:13.730 --> 0:19:14.650 were there. 0:19:14.869 --> 0:19:16.609 In the passing game that were the first read. 0:19:19.380 --> 0:19:21.700 You should have had 24 points in the first half 0:19:21.740 --> 0:19:24.359 and you came away with three and your defense played 0:19:24.380 --> 0:19:24.939 lights out. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.060 So there's there's blame there. No question. 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.110 And the design. And that was Davis Webb design design. 0:19:32.310 --> 0:19:35.410 I mean, you design six explosives in the first half. 0:19:35.970 --> 0:19:39.530 That should be 25 plus yards. You should score a 0:19:39.550 --> 0:19:42.310 lot of points. So that's not on the offensive coordinator. 0:19:42.750 --> 0:19:47.940 And then consistently, they don't know who to block. Yesterday 0:19:48.020 --> 0:19:50.240 on the Stinkin' Drew podcast, I took away motion from 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:53.160 them because every time they motion and guys move, because 0:19:53.180 --> 0:19:56.719 that's what happens. You motion to get guys to move, 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:58.159 but guys move and. 0:19:58.140 --> 0:20:00.820 We're like, who do we block now? I have no idea. 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:02.090 I don't know who to block. 0:20:02.369 --> 0:20:06.609 And there's middle linebackers flying around scot-free unaccounted for. It 0:20:06.910 --> 0:20:09.869 is the damnedest thing. I watch it and I get heated. 0:20:10.109 --> 0:20:11.830 I get heated about how they play. 0:20:12.430 --> 0:20:18.970 The Cowboys holding a team... Only meeting means what to you? 0:20:20.670 --> 0:20:23.980 Well, I mean, they're concerned about the way they're playing. 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.139 I mean, you look at them from a talent standpoint, Dan, 0:20:27.700 --> 0:20:30.220 and you think at least offensively, they should score 35 0:20:30.220 --> 0:20:33.590 points a game. And if you can win your two phases, 0:20:33.910 --> 0:20:36.070 you can win offense and you can win special teams 0:20:36.090 --> 0:20:39.050 because you're not winning defense, not the way they're currently constructed. 0:20:39.450 --> 0:20:41.050 You should be able to win a lot of regular 0:20:41.070 --> 0:20:44.250 season games as you're trying to fix this defense. They 0:20:44.270 --> 0:20:47.730 brought Mike Petten in to help defensive coordinator, the young 0:20:47.770 --> 0:20:51.280 defensive coordinator, Parker, they've got. And some of that can 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.920 be helpful because when you watch them on tape, there's 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:56.700 a lot of gap assignment issues. 0:20:56.740 --> 0:20:59.300