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Speaker 1: to do something unforgivable, but my mom wants me to

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Speaker 1: forgive them. Am I the a hole?

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Speaker 2: I think the mom's and hoots with everyone. I think

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Speaker 2: I orchestrating everything. That's that's wow, that's my no context.

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Speaker 3: Guess what are we supposed to guess?

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Speaker 1: What's what's happening here? Like, who's the who's the who's

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Speaker 1: pulling the strings? Really? Do you think it's the mom?

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Speaker 2: Macy?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like the opposite way, Playtivil's advocate and

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Speaker 3: say it's o p.

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Speaker 2: That's true to very with all these twists, it could be.

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Speaker 2: It could be at anything. It could be at anything.

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Speaker 2: Reddit just like never fails, uh to put you on

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Speaker 2: your on your toes. I feel like I'm a ballerino

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Speaker 2: with these stories. I'm like twisting pures every every second moment.

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Speaker 1: The tea is always always piping hot.

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Speaker 2: I'm always piping hot and burning my face.

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Speaker 1: That's right. But we have to welcome our incredible guests

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Speaker 1: back again. The first return guest in OKOP history, Macy,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I actually do have tea

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Speaker 3: right here, so I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: Wow, this is hot.

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Speaker 3: It's actually pretty hot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, amazing.

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Speaker 2: Hope the story stacks up to the hotness of your teeth.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Shall we dive into it, y'all? Please, let's

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Speaker 1: do it to be scalded, all right, I'm gonna burn

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Speaker 1: your tongue, my boy burn all right, just.

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Speaker 2: Burn my whole body. I want to be this Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's let's let's commit boil me alive. I want to

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Speaker 2: be a lobster. I want you to boil me in

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Speaker 2: a pot and like just like turn it up a

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm like, holy shit, I'm dead. I'm

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Speaker 2: boiled alive.

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Speaker 3: Can someone who's a fan of this please go through

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Speaker 3: this whole thing and just pull these quotes out of

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Speaker 1: Oh, Sam's out of context clips absolutely ruined.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the ruined.

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Speaker 1: It's bad. Sam is super ruined, Sam Sam. Sam Sam

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Speaker 1: is done for so many, so many lobster dipping dipping clips. Actually, no,

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Speaker 1: I think that would make the people love you more,

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Speaker 1: you know, it makes you you're you're the everyday man.

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Speaker 1: You just want to be dipped in tea.

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Speaker 2: You know, and yeah, you know, you know everyone has

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Speaker 2: their kink mind is being boiled alive? Is that so wrong?

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Speaker 2: I say no, I say no, no kink shaming exactly.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say that, who are you to

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Speaker 1: Sam? I'm the one doing it for you. I you know,

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Speaker 1: this is the beginning of art.

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Speaker 2: You are the one boiling me alive. This is the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the Only.

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Speaker 3: Fans And I'm the one in the corner just watching, and.

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Speaker 1: Macy's just here. Which, by the way, we just recently

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be our first our first exclusive.

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Speaker 1: Sam boils John like a dirty little lobster.

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Speaker 2: A million dollars on Patreon.

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Speaker 3: And we'll do it, film it naked, but have it

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Speaker 3: from here up and just say the whole time, Oh guys,

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Speaker 3: we're naked.

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Speaker 2: That podcast all right, samping down right now.

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Speaker 3: Random side note, but did you guys see the guy

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 3: Hold on? I sent it to my friends and I

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Speaker 1: On the classic, don't watch this video.

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Speaker 1: Just shows his straight up ass hair being ripped out.

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Speaker 3: No, so he's doing it with nair so chemically burns

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Speaker 1: But oh my god, it's.

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Speaker 3: Not twenty three million videos and every view it's like, wow,

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Speaker 3: we jumped right into this. Wow, he's not he's not

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Sam, All this time we thought we had

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Speaker 1: content figured out, when really we should be burning our

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Speaker 2: I mean that you probably made the guy like where

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Speaker 3: You don't see it in that TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Sam does this? Sam says to himself.

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Speaker 3: I walked into this not knowing that was gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Graham and I were watching, We're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: Is that? Is that allowed on YouTube?

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Speaker 3: It's under the guise of education.

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Speaker 3: Okay, John, did you get a chance to see?

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Speaker 1: Did I get a chance. I'm not giving myself the chance. See,

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Speaker 1: Sam loves torturing himself.

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Speaker 2: I'm sending this to Christian.

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Speaker 1: All join the trauma train. Okay, actually, let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Let's see this. I'm gonna save this juicy tidbit, no

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Speaker 1: pun intended till the very end, and we're gonna scar

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Speaker 1: myself after the final story. By the way, fittingly, the

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Speaker 1: trade you Yeah? Yeah? Basically, Macy came on here just

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Speaker 1: to just to burn our eyeballs. Okay, all right, are

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Speaker 1: you guys ready to read this story? The star seems

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Speaker 1: lame now, Oh my god, Okay, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: So when I was eighteen, and in my senior year

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Speaker 1: a good track. Well, now you're on Reddit, buddy, now we're.

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Speaker 2: Here, h how track could it be on?

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Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Like, the only track that I'm seeing is the Heroine

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Speaker 2: doing Heroin doing this.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I haven't read your pauses yet, so you

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Speaker 2: They'll go go. It's rough, it's dropped.

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Speaker 3: How badly do you mess up your life at eighteen

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Speaker 3: that you're like whole life? Realistically, most people live till

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but eighteen you can get up to a lot

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Speaker 1: I guess that's true, and your whole life. I guess

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Speaker 1: like if I'm ninety, I'll just go I don't know,

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Speaker 1: well we'll see. You know, you never know the tea

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Speaker 1: on these stories. You really never know. I lived with

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Speaker 1: And spent most of my days hanging out with my

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Speaker 1: Kyle twenty male.

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Speaker 3: Ky. I already don't like him.

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Speaker 1: Ooh that that is such a good catch.

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Speaker 2: Any Kyle already drinking monster and having a backwards hat, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we can be friends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I already see where the stories go. I already

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Speaker 2: They both met the Kyle's in the audience. We don't.

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Speaker 2: Kyle's and Steve's Steve's except Steve Jobs Nah.

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Speaker 1: Fuck him, we hate him too. I think Amanda and

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And they touched, They touched like fingers in

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Speaker 3: They're tattooed on rings touched.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ooh their skull and bone rings. Freaking the electricity, the.

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Speaker 2: Spark led to the boning.

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Speaker 1: Oh god. Both Ashley and Kyle's parents were best friends

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Speaker 2: Come on, we've all known.

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Speaker 1: We've all known, We've all had that friend you know.

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Speaker 2: that we gotta we gotta spill with Macie.

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Speaker 3: I know somebody who is the family like that, and

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Speaker 2: Weird, Yeah, because now you still have to hang out

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Speaker 1: Also, I'm like, it's my it's it's it's if it's

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Speaker 1: that would be to be fair.

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Speaker 3: And he wanted my sister to get with his brother.

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Speaker 3: This is the story for me.

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Speaker 3: You guys just knew my situation, you knew my dating history.

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Speaker 3: I just learned about splash pregnancies. Apparently that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: It's a very very rare thing to happen.

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Speaker 2: But it can't happen like a like a beached whale

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Speaker 3: Some make it back in. Baby, it does happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah at that point, you couldn't even like that child

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Speaker 3: It's that song I'm a Survivor is just playing in

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give my daddy a medal. That's it. Apparently

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Speaker 1: babies learned to swim if you throw. I would never

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Speaker 2: I love babies and pools.

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Speaker 1: It's your favorite pastime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I told you about my summer Judah flipping

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Speaker 3: Okay, but I am team throwing kids in the pool

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Speaker 3: Well, you train them for like ten minutes at of times,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have my baby do it for hour fun.

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Speaker 2: harder record, Gregor, that's gonna be your child to name,

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Speaker 1: Survives the pool, is gonna get just pulled mercilessly.

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Speaker 3: Greg here, But.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't together her first perspectively, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Luckily, it's a it's a right there, no matter what

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Speaker 2: Bye greg ad the fast Wow, the first in my past.

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Speaker 2: Probably probably I have a neighbor that's Greg.

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Speaker 2: I asked her, no one else that was close enough,

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Speaker 3: We were just talking about Kyle, and I guess Ashley,

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Speaker 2: Can you can you give me the can you give

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay. And then Ope's best friend was

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Speaker 1: And we we have a hint that the ex is

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Speaker 1: All the worst.

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Speaker 2: You know anyone who's pregnant at your school.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know anyone, like personally, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I ran with cross country girls. We were very tame, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. I even helped her set up

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Speaker 2: that about happened right now?

443
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're Kyle was brought up for a reason.

444
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: Oh god, Oh my gosh. We chose names together, and

445
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: she even asked me to be with her in the

446
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: delivery room. I noticed that, yeah, it's getting it's getting there.

447
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: This hurts.

448
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: Well, they're like best friends and it makes sense.

449
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: But oh man, right, I noticed that the pregnancy was

450
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 1: really taking a toll on her emotionally and physically, and

451
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: I tried to support her in every way possible. She

452
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: was my best friend, always there for me, and I

453
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: loved her.

454
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: The past tense too, Yeah.

455
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't even catch that.

456
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to catch all the linguistic things and there

457
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 3: it's kind of my thing.

458
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, jeezy, I'm ready, when's the hammer dropped?

459
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: It's building, It's building. Some two weeks before her do date,

460
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: I went into the mall to run some errands for her,

461
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: and I ran into her ex although I promised never

462
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: to contact her, the knowledge of my friend's emotional state

463
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: sent me into a fit of anger, and I confronted him.

464
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 3: As a good friends should woo.

465
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, OPI deserves friend of the millennium war.

466
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: Wait wait so wait wait wait, but like, does does

467
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: the friend or does the X know about OPI's friends pregnancy.

468
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: We have no idea, so we don't know.

469
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 3: But I think the friends assuming that he must have

470
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: some kind of inkling or at least know that they

471
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 3: had sex around that time. And obviously I'm in their

472
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: social media, he would see that she's pregnant, so like

473
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: he would have to be a like.

474
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: OPI is thinking, like, I can't believe this X like

475
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: is not helping at all and just is like completely

476
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: out of the picture.

477
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: Essentially, basically, yeah, so I gave him a piece of

478
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: my mind. I told him what a piece of shit

479
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: he was, as she should, Oh, tell him you are shit.

480
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 3: I know I've done that before, as she should right now,

481
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: for specifically this scenario. My friend was dating this guy

482
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: for like all over a year and then he ghosted her,

483
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: and I like was like, I called one of our

484
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: mutuals and was like, give me his number. And I

485
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: called him and he was like hello. I'm like, this

486
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 3: is Macie. What the fuck? And he was like and

487
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, you don't do that. And she's an amazing

488
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 3: doll of a person. You're a piece of shit. You

489
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: owe her more, and she was like again, as a

490
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 3: good friend should he did. He actually ended up reaching

491
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 3: out back out to her and like mending everything over.

492
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: They they were part of the same friend group, so

493
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 3: it's gonna be really weird. And she think her would

494
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: have stepped out of the situation and not make it

495
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 3: weird for everybody else. And I was like, she's not

496
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 3: getting isolated from her friends by this asshole.

497
00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, go see her.

498
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, she thanked me afterwards too.

499
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

500
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: Like she thanked me afterwards, and things were like a

501
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 3: little weird for a while because I definitely broke her

502
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: trust a little. But like I saw her recently and

503
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: she was like, thank you so much for doing that.

504
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: I did not have the voice.

505
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: So you went to that you went to bat Oh yeah,

506
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yes, you and O P.

507
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: I thought you and you and O P would be

508
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: good friends, actually.

509
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: Having each other's backs through thick and thin high school

510
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: boyfriends in multiple years cheating. I can got that.

511
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: Here we go. Oh goodness, Oh man. I told him

512
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: what a piece of shitt he was for leaving his

513
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: ex pregnant and alone and not caring for his unborn child.

514
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: Come on, come on. He was shocked, and he said

515
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: he had no idea what I was talking about.

516
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: Is that just the cover? Is that just the cover?

517
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm starting to believe that he may actually

518
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: have no idea what.

519
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: They're talking about. Yes, yes, actually never told him about

520
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: the pregnancy, and when I told him that she was

521
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: nine months pregnant at the time, he said that it

522
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: was not possible for him to be the father, as

523
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: they broke up over a year ago and had no

524
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: relations since then. Oh shit, God, this is the biggest

525
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: hammer drop build up we've ever seen.

526
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that means that they broke up at least three

527
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: months before she got pregnant.

528
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, which you know, according to my math.

529
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 3: Burned.

530
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 1: Broke up over a year ago. That would be burned. Yes,

531
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: oh man. I was confused but apologized for yelling at

532
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: him the middle of the mall. After that, he became snarky,

533
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: said some nasty stuff and mentioned that maybe I should

534
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: ask Ashley's friend Kyle if he's the daddy aka her boo.

535
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: Oh shit, ye oh shit, yeah, appropriately the hot tea,

536
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: the hot tea ladies and gentlemen.

537
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: It's about to be spilt. I don't really think about

538
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: his words in any way. Kyle and Ashley have been

539
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: friends their entire lives, and we were always very close.

540
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: You were very close, bro. It's it's sus It's sus man,

541
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: it's sus.

542
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: I'm going to bat for op and I'm going to

543
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: say that if if the guy was upset and just yelling,

544
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: she could have assumed he was just trying to be hurtful,

545
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: knowing that that was her boyfriend, like that, the that

546
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: the best friend's ex could have just been trying to

547
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: be hurtful in the middle of the mall.

548
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: Because he right, right, right, right.

549
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 3: Okay, they're just friends. He obviously wishes trying to make

550
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: a dig at me because.

551
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: I yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, that's true.

552
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: It's probably that maybe she's been suspicious or maybe now

553
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: like she's just like, oh wait, maybe I should be suspicious.

554
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: Should plant a seed?

555
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, a seed has been planted, let me tell

556
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: you that much. Oh boy o pun in the oven

557
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: not burnt. This one is ready to go.

558
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: This seed is growing.

559
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: But Kyle and Ashley never showed any sign of being

560
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: anything more. That evening, my younger sister, fourteen female, and

561
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: I were preparing to have a movie night. I began

562
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: ranting to her about confronting Ashley's ex and his words.

563
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: My sister, who is usually very outspoken, got really quiet

564
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: and didn't really respond to anything I was saying.

565
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: Does everyone know that would be brow.

566
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: No, I mean your fourteen year old sister.

567
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: If your fourteen year old sister knew and didn't tell you,

568
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: I would say you also got portrayed by her. I

569
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: would I would go to bat for my sister. Are

570
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: you kidding me? If I saw her boyfriend with another

571
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: girl or I was suspicious, I'd be the tatum this

572
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: is going on.

573
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: And also she's helping her the whole time, you know,

574
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: and like the sister sees that obviously, so wow.

575
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no action is no action is still a decision.

576
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, guilt biomission. After a while, she excused herself and

577
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom. I decided to go and get

578
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: some snacks and went downstairs to the kitchen, and I

579
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: heard younger sister berating my mother. Now this part of

580
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: my memory is really fuzzy, as I was dealing with

581
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: lots of emotions. My sister told my mom about me

582
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: running into Ashley's ex and his words, and told my

583
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: mom that she no longer wanted to hide from me

584
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: the fact that Kyle was Ashley's baby's father. The mom,

585
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: what bro the.

586
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: Mom knew your mom would pro check your best friend

587
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: over you?

588
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

589
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: What should I say? At the beginning of the story,

590
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: the mom is the puppet that call that I fucking crap.

591
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a dick mom.

592
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: By the way, Wow, I don't talk to my mom again. Yeah,

593
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: this is you could never trust your mom again?

594
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: Wow? And why why? Like what reason could you possibly have.

595
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: It's not like the other sister. Yeah, it's not like

596
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: it was the other sister. And it's like, yes, like

597
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: if it was the other sister, And she's like, you

598
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: too need to work it out, and I'm not going

599
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: to get involved but you're gonna have to tell her

600
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: by this date. I can see where you would say

601
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: out of that, it's a different scenario.

602
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, neither of the.

603
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: Are her children, and she protected them over her own children.

604
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: And even if she thought she was protecting her daughter,

605
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: does she have like any ability to see in the future.

606
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: I can see we're in. You know, an eighteen year

607
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: old high schooler would think I could hide this forever.

608
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: We're talking about somebody who at least has to be

609
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: fourteen years older than all of them, So somebody who

610
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: has to be at least in their mid thirties. Yeah,

611
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: I mean probably, so it's like forties.

612
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: There's like just consequences to all of this, to not

613
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: to to like people, certain people not knowing about the

614
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: pregnancy and not knowing who's the father like these like

615
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: this is like real world repercussions. So like the mother

616
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: keeping like did the mother make it so that the

617
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: actual father doesn't really know that? Or the the guy

618
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: that thought he was like like the ex does the

619
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: ex know? Did the mom? How the ex?

620
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: Oh, did the fourteen year old daughter no better than

621
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: the mom on what was morally right in this situation?

622
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Facts?

623
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: Because from the way that they're that they're talking and

624
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: saying I can't hide this anymore, makes it sound like

625
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: that's not the first discussion.

626
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

627
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like the mom was saying, no, you

628
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: have to keep this secret.

629
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, no for sure, But it sounds like

630
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: the daughter might have said the fourteen year old sister

631
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: might have said at some point, I can't keep hiding this.

632
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: I can't keep hiding. You know. I don't feel comforting.

633
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: I don't feel comfortable because you it's it's a big

634
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: step to go from like I'm hiding this, so like

635
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: I can't do this.

636
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

637
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: I feel like most people wet off little warning signs

638
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: ahead of time, like I don't know how I feel

639
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 3: about this, I don't know whatever.

640
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: Mm hm.

641
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: So I'm like, how, how how does the fourteen year

642
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: old sister know better than the mom, a grown.

643
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: Ass woman with five children. And in the midst of

644
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: all this too, there the parents, it seems pretty clearly,

645
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: are aware that they are both talking about getting married

646
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: to one another. So she's setting up her daughter to

647
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: get married to a guy who had a child with

648
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: another woman and didn't say anything and all of this.

649
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 3: I mean she's setting up her daughter to get married

650
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 3: to a guy who cheated on her, yeah, with her best.

651
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: Friend, with her best friend and said nothing and yeah,

652
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: and is not like all the things, I wouldn't follow.

653
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: Her to your daughter to be married to that. Or

654
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: maybe she's like maybe she wants her daughter to marry

655
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: into the family. Oh, it's like it's like, I pray

656
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: not that would king. It's like a king wedding kind

657
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: of send off Game of Throne style, or it's just

658
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: marriage for for monetary gain and power.

659
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: I was going to say, like, what if the other

660
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: family has money and that's why she's like, Oh, yeah,

661
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hook you up with Kyle.

662
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: Oh please, I pray not. It's already been this insane

663
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: that thus far. I don't know if I can handle that,

664
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: but it's only one way to find out. I was shocked,

665
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: absolutely shocked. I stumbled into the kitchen and demanded an explanation.

666
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: Both my mom and my sister became white as a

667
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: sheet when they saw me, and my sister started crying

668
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: her eyes out. My sister explained to me some things

669
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: I also learned from people later that appeared during the

670
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: end of the summer break Kyle and Ashley attended the

671
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: same house party, got drunk and slept together. Ashley got

672
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: pregnant and told Kyle that they were both ashamed and

673
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: afraid of telling me, dang up once. It sounds like

674
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: one time, Hey, what did what did? What did? All

675
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: the all the old heads always say we were growing up.

676
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 3: All t Wait, so this also means that Kyle's known

677
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: this whole time and it has been pretending. So this

678
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 3: you're one of you guys, said Sam, you said earlier.

679
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: There's a chance that Kyle just doesn't know. He hasn't

680
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: mentioned anything. I mean, like you could do the basic math,

681
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: but like Cayle for sure knows.

682
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah at this point, now now we've confirmed it, all

683
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: I wanted was to lay in my bed or cuddle

684
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: in my bed with my mom and cry all of

685
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: my feelings out.

686
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: Why do you want to see your mom after this?

687
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't's like a dick.

688
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: Maybe she's so distraught, she's like any form of I

689
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: don't even know hard to say. My mom received a

690
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: call from Ashley's mom. Ashley was having the baby. She's

691
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: in labor. Now, wow, God, what insane timing. She came

692
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: to my room and told me that she and dad

693
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: were going to the hospital.

694
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 3: It's not your either of your kids, Why are you going?

695
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: What the fuck?

696
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: I was all those families so close like that? Like

697
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: is it like they're so close?

698
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: But it's like like, well, they're probably going over to

699
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: their events and such, and they're like doing maybe like

700
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: Thanksgivings and Christmas.

701
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they said. I think the line was all

702
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: of our parents were friends, so when we were like

703
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: born in diapers, we started hanging out together. So like

704
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: the parents' friendship kind of like preceded all of this.

705
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. I have a male friend who

706
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 3: is very close in age to me, and it's kind

707
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: of the same situation to where I like it. Probably

708
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: if I had a kid, his mom would come.

709
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: So I guess it doesn't make sense. That's so wild though,

710
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: that they like it seems like the parents were literally

711
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: like grooming because they were all friends with each other.

712
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, it just makes no sense. But they

713
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: it seems like they wanted one of the pairings to

714
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: get together.

715
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like they were preparing all their kids to

716
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: potentially It's like they were basteler atting their kids.

717
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: So weird, Like I'm sorry, give the rose.

718
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the goal beyond? Here? Is like to

719
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: have like a weird threatle situation.

720
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: Literally like, why are the parents? Why are oh P's

721
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: parents still like protecting Kyle and Ashley? Like it? Just

722
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: like it makes so little sense. I was perplexed, so

723
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: are we, and asked her to stay with me. She

724
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: said that Ashley's parents need all the support that they

725
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: can get and we will discuss everything later. What about

726
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: your damn daughter? Can she not get all the support

727
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: she can get? Excuse me? Excuse me?

728
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 3: I just want to know where she's gonna go, Like

729
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: if she's actually gonna still go and support Ashley during

730
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: the in and tell her afterwards, or if she's just

731
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: gonna say both reactions would be fair. If she's like,

732
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: you know what, we've been best friends for years. I'm

733
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: piss at her and I'm done after this, but I

734
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: promised her this, so I'm going to go through with it.

735
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: I need to put myself aside right now. She's having

736
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 3: a baby, but as much. But she also very easy.

737
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: It could be like fuck, fuck her, I'm never seeing

738
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: her again and not show up, and I think that.

739
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: Should be jes afy situation. I don't know when, but

740
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: my sadness turned into rage the kind I had never

741
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 1: experienced before, and in a fit of emotions and feelings

742
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: of betrayal, I started packing my bags and I decided

743
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: to leave my home. So she's just leaving her parents. Wow?

744
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because I mean, at this point, you got assume

745
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: if the if the mom knew, then the dad probably

746
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: knew as well. I think the only person in the

747
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: family not to blame that we've heard about that kind

748
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: of would know about the situations the fourteen year old,

749
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: because it's the fourteen year old, and you're going to

750
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: default to what your mom says. But clearly she wasn't comfortable.

751
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: Wow.

752
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: God, yeah, this is all kinds of fucked.

753
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: I left.

754
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: I took a train, and I left My parents. Siblings,

755
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Kyle and Ashley, all trial to contact me. My mom

756
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: was sending me a panicked voicemail demanding me to come back.

757
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: Also reported me as a missing person, but I don't

758
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: think it went anywhere. As I was eighteen, I finished

759
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: school and got married. Fifteen years passed away from my family,

760
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: and I found out from some friends that my parents

761
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: were struggling to keep their house and both my brothers

762
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: lost their jobs and struggled to keep up with the cost.

763
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: Me and my life now coming all the way into

764
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: the future now like this is this is covering like

765
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: a whole person's life fifteen years late, literally and now

766
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: everyone's screwed.

767
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: It's a movie.

768
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 3: It also makes sense why the ex didn't know about

769
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: the pregnancy, because if they didn't go to the same school,

770
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 3: would have no clue. Yea, I was saying with social media, like, yeah,

771
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 3: of course you would see that your exes pregnant or

772
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 3: it takes some mutual friends seeing your exes precdant.

773
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, on Instagram, So that makes sense true. Me and

774
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: my husband agreed to help them pay as in help

775
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: out her brothers who just lost their jobs. So I

776
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: flew back to my home state. I saw my family

777
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: for the first time in fifteen years. I had so

778
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: many emotions, regrets, pains from the past, feelings of betrayal.

779
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: My parents were, I think, relieved to see me. It

780
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: was such a weird day. We had a lengthy conversation

781
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: and agreed to try and have some sort of cordial relationship.

782
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: But that's why my mom started insisting that I have

783
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: a sit down conversation with Kyle and Ashley. I told

784
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: her that she is choosing them over me again. She

785
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: cried and yelled at me that I am selfish and

786
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: that she just wants her family back. My mom and

787
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: Kyle's mom kept calling me, And when I say that,

788
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: I mean one hundred plus calls a day and messages

789
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: every twenty minutes to pester me. I was afraid to

790
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: block her, so I spoke to my father. I don't

791
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: know what happened to them afterwards. He doesn't speak much

792
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: about it. Her calls slowly ceased, and something else must

793
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: have happened, because in August, my dad filed for a divorce.

794
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: Oh wow, this whole family is falling apart.

795
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's insane. Feels like a telenovella a little bit.

796
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the yeah, just the level of all

797
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: of these things happening the way which God, this is

798
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: definitely one of our craziest stories we've ever read out

799
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: of like literally a thousand. My god, my mom is devastated.

800
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: In August, her calls became insane, and apparently not just

801
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: with me. I've changed my number since then, and as

802
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: of February, she has not been able to reach me.

803
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to have anything to do with her anymore,

804
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: nor do I want her near my kids. As for

805
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: Kyle and Ashley, I got a letter apparently written by Ashley.

806
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: I've not opened it, and I really don't know if

807
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: I want to. I feel like I've moved on from them.

808
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, I'm curious as to what

809
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: she has to say after so many years. However, that

810
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: in itself could bring back bad Oh.

811
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: I would definitely let curiosity get the best of me there,

812
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: Like I would have to open the letter. I don't

813
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: think I could just like, yeah, not even look at it.

814
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: Maybe don't respond, but yeah, I would definitely look at it.

815
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean so many things here. I guess I'm curious.

816
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: I guess I guess boiling it down to the most

817
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: quintessential question for me, I would love to hear everyone

818
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: who's watching on their take. But Macie are our resident expert, Yeah, yeah,

819
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: what would you do at this point?

820
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: And also it's like like a lot of people will

821
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: go like like they'll ask Reddit, like should I go

822
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: no contact with my family because of this? And I'm wondering, like,

823
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: do you think this is a no contact situation?

824
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 3: I think it's no contact with certain individuals. I think

825
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: the only one that's really redeemable is the fourteen year

826
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: old sister, because I think it's fair at fourteen you're

827
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: going to follow your mom's lead. But it seems like

828
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: she was really pushing back. She found out because the

829
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: sister was pushing back because the sister was uncomfortable. So

830
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: I feel like, out of everybody, fourteen year old, you

831
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: got to give more of a chance. You got to

832
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: think also too, like fourteen year olds is there it's

833
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: not a fully formed adult.

834
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

835
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: The mom the oldest sister was twenty, so assuming that

836
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: she got pregnant as soon as you could get like

837
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: pregnant at like fourteen, the mom had to have been

838
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: at least thirty four plus. That is a fully grown

839
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: person with a fully developed brain. Yeah, and like plenty

840
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: of life experience beyond that, because like I think for women,

841
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: our brains fully developed at twenty one and for minutes

842
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: like twenty five or something like that. Anyways, seven yeah, anyways,

843
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: but like even beyond that, you kind of spend your

844
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: later twenties being a little dumb and you're still kind

845
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: of learning things. Like I've seen it. I've just seen

846
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: some people take time with that area, you know, like

847
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: you might have the smarts that think through a situation,

848
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: but you don't have any life experience to really be

849
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: able to weigh your options a little heavier. This mom

850
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: had both those things. She had a fully developed brain.

851
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: I'm assuming she had to have gone through stuff in

852
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: her life, Like I think that's unforgivable. I would be

853
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 3: done too well. I'm very much a not like a

854
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 3: burn it type person.

855
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: I would say no contact with the mom. Also, it

856
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: seems like she's just going crazy right now and everyone's

857
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: trying to get away from her.

858
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: So I'd be curious to see why the dad divorced after,

859
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: because it seems like when she reached back out and

860
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 3: she explained things, the dad kind of filed for divorce

861
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: pretty quickly after. So I'd be open to talking to

862
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 3: dad and finding out if the dad didn't know what

863
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 3: was going on, I would say, yeah, you're fine to

864
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: be in contact with your dad, Like if your dad

865
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: didn't know what was happening the whole time, then yeah talk.

866
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: But like everybody else, I'm like, you know, not really

867
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: for sure. I would open that letter, though I would

868
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: never reach back out to them. I think that would

869
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: be the worst kind kind of torture too. I may

870
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: don't want to say the torture, but like payback for

871
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: Ashley and Kyle is if they sent you this letter

872
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: and they pour out their hearts in it's the huge

873
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 3: apology and they just get nothing back, Like that would

874
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: be like, you know, it'd be just I mean, you've ruined,

875
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: You've ruined where her life is going. Grant it might

876
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: have turned out better, but like it doesn't matter if

877
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: her life couldn't turned out better and she could matter

878
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Speaker 3: her husband regardless of that pain.

879
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: M hmm, yeah, agreed, I agree, But I mean I

880
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: want to hear what every one in the comments has

881
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: to say. So this is a doozy. This is a

882
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: long one. Yeah wow, I wonder how how long this

883
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Speaker 2: edit will be. But put your answers at the comments below.

884
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: What do you think should do? Should they go now contact?

885
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: And like which family members should Ope go no contact with?

886
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 2: We love hearing from you, especially our public subscribers, and

887
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: we're going to read some comments from some public subscribers

888
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: right now. So on the video, he's cheating on me

889
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: with his coworker, basically the coworker Steele's husband of Ope Thrones.

890
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: Odd World says wife is talks and doesn't let the

891
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: husband be friends with women, which sometimes can be a

892
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: toxic trait, and subscriber twins Sister said, if he is cheating,

893
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: he is the worst heater ever that he was, Well,

894
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: we love your comments. If you want to have us

895
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: read your comments, make sure to public subscribe and comment

896
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: below and we'll see him. I don't know what to do.

897
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: My best friend tried to kiss me, so I puck

898
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: it up. Now she's pissed, and I think my friendship

899
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 2: is over. Am I the a hole?

900
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: You try to kiss me? How are you going to

901
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: be mad at me?

902
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm just using the only defense I know how

903
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: this that's right?

904
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 3: How dare you try to kiss me when I kiss you?

905
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? How dare you kiss me back?

906
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Reddit logic.

907
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: So I'm a twenty four year old man and my

908
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: friend Jess is a twenty two year old woman. We've

909
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: known each other for about three years since we met

910
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: in a class. We've always been platonic, and to be

911
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: completely honest, I'm not the type of guy to go

912
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: for it. Come on, oh, peb a, go get it right,

913
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: you know, spit some game, riz up some some riz. Yesterday,

914
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: Jess was supposed to move. I was going to drive

915
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 2: my truck over her place, help her load up her stuff,

916
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: and get her out of her apartment. Her situation with

917
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 2: her roommates has become highly unstable due to the unreconcilable differences,

918
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 2: so she was in a rush to leave the day

919
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: before yesterday. As a way of thanking me in her advance,

920
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: Jess ordered pizza for the two of us. Maybe a

921
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 2: little candle, very nice. Maybe some rose petals, yeah, they

922
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 2: borrowed chocolate. Maybe a massage. Maybe she drew at nice

923
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: warm bath while you ate that pizza.

924
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: Nizza cheese.

925
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: Here's the yeah, lady in the tramp that cheese.

926
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 3: Like nice, nice little sexy pools.

927
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't pin and you whip yourselves with that cheese.

928
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, oh you know, I don't know. I'm saying, Hey,

929
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: pineapple beats accomplices two things at once, a little little uh,

930
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: a little night time prep. So uh. We were sitting

931
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 2: there watching a movie on my couch, being plotonic friends

932
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: as usual. Suddenly she inched a little closer to me.

933
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: Then she got a little closer. All I could do

934
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: was think about how it was finally happening. Hope he

935
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: has been saving it all in. He's about to if

936
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: she inches one more closer, one more inch closer is

937
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: about the bus. Yeahy's got it, Masy's got it.

938
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh no. That that always worries me though,

939
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 3: and be like even guys are like, it's finally happening.

940
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, so were you helping her move because he

941
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: wanted something to happen.

942
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: I moved all these for you, Jessica, come on, just.

943
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: This move.

944
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: You know you're wanting to move out You're crazy apartment and.

945
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm wanting to move over here, all right? So she

946
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: squeezed up really close next to me and looked up

947
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: at my face. I'm not the most confident guy, so

948
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 2: all I could say was, Hey, if anyone's seen Spider Man?

949
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: Uh?

950
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: To what she responded, Hi. Then she asked if I

951
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: wanted to do something, still trying to keep room for

952
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: plausible deny. I been come on, if someone asks you,

953
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: if someone it just close to you on the couch

954
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: when you're watching a movie and asked if you want

955
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: to do something, it sounds sounds like she's she's leading

956
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 2: the witness.

957
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: Nice subtleties in the beginning for a relationship. Yeah, get

958
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: four relationship. You look at the person, you're like, you

959
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: want to have sex, Like okay, sure.

960
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: I asked what something was and she said, yeah, oh,

961
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 2: you know something. Still trying to keep room for plausibile

962
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: to diability, I decided I didn't know what something was,

963
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: and she kept staring and nodding, and I thought, I

964
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: just take my chances. I asked if I could kiss her.

965
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: He asked, big mistake. Just lean in. Do the lean in?

966
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: Think one of those you got to do that, like

967
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: Edward Colin, Like this kind of era of stuff. You're like, hey,

968
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: I want to kiss you, and you just sleep it there.

969
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: You don't ask, you just say I really want to

970
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: kiss you know, like right's yeah?

971
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think I spit on my camera.

972
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: Oh goodness.

973
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: She immediately stood up, walked to the other end of

974
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: the room, and sat down on the armchair. Then she

975
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: took out her phone. I immediately apologized, and she said

976
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: that I should just forget it. A few minutes of

977
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: incredibly awkward silence passed, and then she said, I guess Kim,

978
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: her best friend, was right. I asked what Kim was

979
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: right about, and she explained that for several years, Kim

980
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: has repeatedly, again and again said that I was only

981
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: trying to get in her pants. Apparently Kim put her

982
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: up to testing me.

983
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 3: Oh come on, yeah, that doesn't feel necessarily fair because

984
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 3: like now now with the context of that, like it

985
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like he's being you know, the stereotypical nice guy.

986
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 3: Like it was you know, you know, e scooting it.

987
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: She was making a move on him, and he was

988
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: like she was making a move, and he was.

989
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 3: Like, well, I'm into you, so yeah, But it wasn't

990
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: like he was doing the whole which I've dealt with

991
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: this before, where it's like, you know, you go to

992
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: your sister's game once with them, and he had former

993
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: teammates that were also playing that same day, and you

994
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: bought your own Chipotle before you even showed up, and

995
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, when you end up in a

996
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 3: relationship three months later, they're sending you a crazy text

997
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: like but I did so much for you, and you're like, what, wow,

998
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 3: even buy this? And then I didn't even think it

999
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: was a date, like you wanted to see other We

1000
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 3: both had friends that were playing at this one. It

1001
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 3: was a it was a cross country meet, and I'm like,

1002
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 3: we both had friends that were running that day. I

1003
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 3: didn't think it was a date. The date was, yeah,

1004
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: like a date where we're running round between different spots

1005
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 3: at a cross country meat to cheer on our friends.

1006
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: The most romantic gate of all.

1007
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: Oh god right, But it's not like it was like

1008
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 3: that where he like flipped out later. It was literally

1009
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: like she was making moves and he was reciprocating.

1010
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that feels super unfair, but there is a

1011
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: little bit more to the story. So I felt horrible.

1012
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: I immediately apologized to Jess again and said that while

1013
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: I found her attractive, I do nothing to hurt her friendship,

1014
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: and then apologize to yet again. Jess accepted it while

1015
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: crying a bit. Then I told her she had nothing

1016
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: to worry about. After just went home. I got to

1017
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: thinking that it was incredibly mean spirited that she would

1018
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: do that to me. I apologize, but that juvenile high

1019
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: school prank just started to strike me the wrong way.

1020
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: I talked to my sister, who I can talk to

1021
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 2: about anything, who reinforced that it was disgusting behavior. Then

1022
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: she asked for Jess's address, which I declined to give her.

1023
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: So the sister's going to bat on a polone a

1024
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: macie The next morning. Instead of meeting up with Jess

1025
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: at the promised time, I just didn't. I had taken

1026
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: the day off work, but I went in any way

1027
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: because I wanted to get my mind off what happened.

1028
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: Jess was blowing up my phone all day, and then

1029
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: I got a couple of texts from a number I

1030
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: didn't recognize, which I imagined was Kim. Finally, Jess called

1031
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: me a flaking creep and that was the end. I'm

1032
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: really mixed on this. I feel kind of bad, but

1033
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: not so bad. So am I the a hole?

1034
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 3: It's hard because with context, you don't know if he

1035
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 3: was like making subtle moves before and was trying to

1036
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: test the waters and that's why, you know, like she

1037
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: was like, no, I think it's subtle, Like this is

1038
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 3: not just like if he was like subtly like I

1039
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: don't want to say, giving her his jacket or trying

1040
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: to hold her hands, and you're like purposely trying to

1041
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: get her to like his house alone, or kind of

1042
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 3: making like little subtle comments like testing the waters, you know,

1043
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 3: where she was like maybe like, oh this is uncomfortable.

1044
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 3: But we're just friends, so we don't have that context.

1045
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 3: But regardless, that was such a mean spirited thing to do.

1046
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: He she should have asked. If she'd asked and was like,

1047
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: oh gosh, I feel really creeped out by that. I

1048
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: thought you were just helping me because we were friends

1049
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 3: would have been a different thing.

1050
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like why do this whole like I feel.

1051
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: Like if she yeah, no, like absolutely not. And I

1052
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: also just think guys would be more likely to jump

1053
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: on it, jump on like, oh, I think this girl's

1054
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: attractive and she wants to sleep with me even if

1055
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: there's no feelings involved.

1056
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: What do you think is like in terms of not

1057
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: every setting up the boundaries of platonic friendships, like what

1058
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: do you like? What are the like, what are the

1059
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: platonic friendship boundaries you draw?

1060
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: I don't I think certain. Gosh, it's this is you're

1061
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: asking like the wrong You're asking like the wrong person

1062
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 3: because everybody's like, oh my god, and I'm like, but

1063
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: everybody understands. I don't know, like because like Jack is

1064
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: one of my close male friends, but it's like a

1065
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 3: weird thing to say because he also lived with Graham

1066
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 3: and I so like for me, like if he's like

1067
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: walking around his pajamas shirtless, to me, it's not weird

1068
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: because we lived in the same house, you know, and

1069
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: we lived together for over a year. So like I

1070
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 3: feel like I'm like a weird person. Ask is like

1071
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: my boundaries of jack is, like, what would I be

1072
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: okay with the platonic roommate doing more than like platonic friend,

1073
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: if that makes sense. I think some of the things,

1074
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 3: just like not doing things that you would find affectionate

1075
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 3: from a partner should not be done if you want

1076
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 3: a relationship to be platonic. So like if you found

1077
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 3: it affectionate that you know your significant others giving you

1078
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 3: their jacket because you're cold, probably shouldn't be done if

1079
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 3: that's not something you find affectionating, Like you're out with

1080
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 3: your girlfriends and like when I'm cold, you just give

1081
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: them your jack and like it's a normal action for you.

1082
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 3: So it's like hard something like that line kind of

1083
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 3: varies for everybody. But I think if she wanted to

1084
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: get a gauge if he was into her or not,

1085
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 3: then like she should have just asked.

1086
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: That was like incredibly just say no.

1087
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: Could have said he could have said no, Yeah, I mean,

1088
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: but at least like you, you don't, you don't pull

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Speaker 3: it to levels of playing mean spirited pranks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think I think you

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Speaker 2: have to be mature.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about adults. Act like an adult.

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Speaker 3: You're acting like a seven year old, you know. I

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Speaker 3: don't really feel like there he's the asshole for flaking.

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Speaker 3: I think that was incredibly mean spirited and never should

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Speaker 3: have been gone about that way. I get where she

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Speaker 3: this is kind of making me uncomfortable, or this is

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Speaker 3: something I feel like should be done in a relationship.

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Speaker 3: I could see where she'd be upset, But like the

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Speaker 3: whole way she went about that makes her an asshole. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 3: from the context we have, there was nothing before that

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Speaker 2: But I could have just been like, oh, this guy,

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Speaker 2: like they're hanging out all the.

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Speaker 3: Time and that, Yeah, exactly. So it also could be

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Speaker 3: that so judging we don't have the context of like

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Speaker 3: every interaction that they've had, Like, for sure, she's an asshole.

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Speaker 3: I don't. In from the context we have, I would

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Speaker 3: say he's not an asshole. And I think absolutely unflaking.

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Speaker 3: It does mess me up.

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Speaker 2: Baking is a little bit. I feel like the flaking

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: But I think you should just say like, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you could want to be done with her, but he

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Speaker 2: you did was cool. I need a little space.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah he should have. But I don't really

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Speaker 3: feel like I feel like it was a jerk move,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think it's enough to be an asshole move.

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Speaker 2: No, he was never an asshole.

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