1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: People want real relationships, and yes, they want to be vulnerable. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: They want to be in those relationships outside of familial 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: relationships that say I'm gonna be naked. I'm going to 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: strip down all of what it is that I put 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: together to help me from not being heard. Because this 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: is the thing. The more vulnerable you are or you 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: allow yourself to be, the more you can be seen 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: and the more you can be loved for who you 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: really are. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: That is you can tell by the voice the great 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: mc light and she is on today's Naked podcast and 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 2: she's being extremely naked, no pun intended. Pay attention. It's 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: always an education and refreshing. Thank you for listening to 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: this episode of Naked, and of course you can fast 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: forward through the commercials. I know how y'all feel. I 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: wish you guys stop telling me, but we got to 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: pay the bills. Thanks for listening to this edition of Naked, y'all. 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 3: It's the greatest suspension in the same making. Nick, you 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: put Charry. 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: Chappie and carry Chappy is going to be a champion, 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 4: a champion, and Carrie Chappie and the Girl un a champion, 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: the Cary Chappion and. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Carried shepy great susporsion, then the tame nick you word. 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to you a new edition of Naked. 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 2: We are just about rapped with season three. I'm looking 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: forward to season four. But as we wrap, We've had 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: so much happen. I've kept you up to date with 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: what's going on in the world, introduce you to luminaries, 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: and of course I think it's different about today's podcast. 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 2: We have a legend and icon, one of the first 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: female voices in hip hop, mc light is on the 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: podcast today. I've interviewed her a few times, but this 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: time it's really interesting because I could go over her career, 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: I could talk about all the things that she has 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: done in terms of the contributions to the hip hop community, 36 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: but this felt very much more personal. It felt more 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: I felt more so about where she is in her life. 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: She looks amazing. As you guys, if you've googled her 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: seen her. She is arguably one of the most recognized 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: voices you might have seen or heard rather some of 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: her voiceovers for the BET Awards. I know that's where 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: I always constantly think about her different award shows. Her 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 2: voice is just so authentic and true and pure and 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: it is who she is. But at fifty three years old, 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: she's divorced and she's dating, and I asked her what 46 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: success looks like and she said to me that success 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: looks like finding a really peaceful relationship. Currently she is 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: in one, and I thought that was beautiful. But it 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: also led me to ask her about her latest single, 50 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: because she is still putting music out. After three plus 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: decades in the business, she is still putting music out. 52 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: And she said that her latest single Woman, I encourage 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: you all to go out download it. No one goes 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: out and buys anything anymore downloaded and support because for her, 55 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: she said, it was about a journey and she is 56 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: speaking to every woman in the culture, every woman, black, white, 57 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: purple of green, that has found themselves at this maybe 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: not even necessarily midlife, but out of pivot, a turning point, 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: a revelation. We all, no matter what age, we are, 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 2: are constantly learning about who we are and what we 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: want for ourselves. And she's done something that I think 62 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: is really smart. On her social media. She takes everyday 63 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: women that you and I know and she highlights them. 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: But she also has her song Woman laid behind the 65 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: visuals of different women, Maya, Angelou, Oprah and Free and 66 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: I'm throwing some women out there that I remember seeing, Angela, 67 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Rye Salt and Peppa. You know, women that we know 68 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: and we see in the culture who have contributed to 69 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: who we are, what we hear, what we listen to, 70 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: how we think, how we move, educating us. And I 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: think it's such a beautiful, just such a beautiful testimony 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: in tribute to women all over the world to please 73 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: go out and support mc light. But more importantly, I 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: really enjoyed this conversation because this conversation was honestly just 75 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: about being a woman and living without further ado, Welcome 76 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: to the podcast mc. 77 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: Light, Chapion and Carey Chappy and and care with chat. 78 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: The legendary mc light on Naked. It is always an 79 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: honor for me to have people on the podcast who 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: do the work, who paved the way, who live the example. 81 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: Nobody's perfect, but I love just about I don't think 82 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: there's anything that I could say that you haven't been 83 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: a part of that I haven't been a fan of. 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: And most recently in March, you released an empowerment song 85 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: for women and I literally went on your page and 86 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: the social media that you're doing for it. Grabbing women 87 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: that are in ours, guys that are in our everyday life, 88 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: that we know, that we see that are doing the work, 89 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: and highlighting the work that they have done is really powerful. 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: And if we can begin there. Because you don't always 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: release a lot of music as of late, and when 92 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: you do it's with intention. Tell me about this latest project. Wow, yeah, 93 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: it's well, it's called Woman. We were in the studio 94 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: working on some things. Warren Campbell, who is also my pastor, 95 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: and my good friend who comes by way of Heavy, 96 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Heavy D and I were really close, and Warren and 97 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: Heavy were close, and so whenever I would see Warren, 98 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: it would be at the studio with Heavy. However, when 99 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: Heavy passed, Warren and I had a couple of conversations 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: and I felt like, oh, this is why he and 101 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 2: Heavy were close, because they're made from the same fabric. 102 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: And we were sitting in the studio. Now having become 103 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: somewhat like brother and sister, we were sitting in a studio. 104 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: Like, I quit, what are we going to do? And 105 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, we Kine is in town. 106 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: Let me call him and see if he'll come hang 107 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: out with us. Kine of course, was like I'm on 108 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: my way. Same thing with Raheem, Hey, I'm in. And 109 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: the thing about it is where Warren's studio is you 110 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: have to be exceptionally intentional because it's in West Tills, 111 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: which is like man's no Man's land. 112 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: To some people. 113 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: And so they all took the trip and we sat 114 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: in the studio trying to figure out what we were 115 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: going to do, and then Warren put on this music 116 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: and immediately Raheem went into the vocal booth and said woman, Woman, 117 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: And as soon as he said it, we were like, 118 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: there we have it. As far as being intentional, it 119 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: just seems like if you're going to put music out now, 120 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: especially coming from all of what it is that I've done, 121 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: what it is that I do, it has to be 122 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: a special occasion. And so, honestly we missed last March. 123 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: We've had this song brewing. I think it's been since 124 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: two thousand, I don't know, nineteen, maybe twenty nineteen. Really, yeah, yeah, 125 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: so you had just twenty nineteen and just released in 126 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Yeah, because the pandemic came and who 127 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: was thinking about releasing music. We were trying to stay alive. 128 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: And so from that, I think in twenty or twenty 129 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: one is when Cheryl Salt James made herself available to 130 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: get on the record, which how can you pass up? 131 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: Okay? Okay? 132 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: And so I've got two more records with Raheem and Kin, 133 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: I've got another record with Salt. But for this occasion, 134 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: we all came together for women, and it just seems 135 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: like now is a great opportunity to say how it 136 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: is that I feel through my story, through salt story, 137 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: through Cain's admiration and adoration for women. Here we have 138 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: the person fit collaboration with Raheem singing from the crown 139 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: overhead to the toes on our feet and all the 140 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: melanin that exists in between. Let's celebrate women. 141 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: Amen, And as you as this album is coming together, 142 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: the intention is for it to be an anthem. Is it? 143 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: Is it to just to celebrate women? 144 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: Is it? 145 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: What is your story connection line? When we are listening 146 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: to it, Why did mc light say women and decide 147 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: that these are the bars that I'm gonna that that 148 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: people are going to put in. And I'm sure everyone 149 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: had their written for themselves. I'm assuming I don't know 150 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: if they all write everyone. Yeah, but I'm assuming then 151 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: if everyone has their own experience. But why was it 152 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: important for you to highlight and celebrate women at this time? 153 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: Even though it was twenty nineteen when you wrote it, 154 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: the idea was always there, there's never not a good 155 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: time to celebrate us. But then it comes out it 156 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: feels like it's on the heels of something very special, 157 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: with women in sports, with women in politics, with women 158 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: in the world to make changes, women in every single 159 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: institution really making their voices known, Black women specifically. I 160 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: want to know your story because I know what you 161 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: represent for so many of us. 162 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, then and now, Yeah, well, I'll tell you what. 163 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: There's many chapters to the story. As a matter of fact, 164 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking now with the literary agent again, twenty years 165 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: after the first time a literary agent came to me 166 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: and wanted me to tell my story. So there are 167 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: many different layers as it relates to this song. Even 168 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: though we're highlighting all sorts of women, and all sorts 169 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: of women are connecting to the vibe and the content 170 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: of this particular record, I'm speaking to the woman before 171 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: there's anything that exists outside. So whether she's a politician, 172 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: whether she's an athlete, whether she's an actress or a teacher, 173 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: or whatever it is you may do for your profession. 174 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to the woman underneath those layers, and I'm 175 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: speaking for a particular type of women. 176 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 2: So this latest Single Woman, I feel as if that 177 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: you are doing something that is intentional. It's never not 178 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: a good time to celebrate women, But how is it 179 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: your story and what you have been through? Although you 180 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: highlight so many other women that are in the game 181 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: and the struggle making a difference, is your story? 182 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: My story as it relates to this song, is just 183 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: being open to tell what it really takes as a 184 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: woman who's been in business and has had a certain 185 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: amount of success and also has had a marriage and 186 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: a divorce, what it is that really makes things click? 187 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: And although you know, for many I would imagine it's just, oh, 188 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, we go out on a date, you get 189 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: to know one another, and then it escalates and then 190 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: you make this huge commitment, And I think, well, what 191 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: I know is in this particular song, I'm saying a 192 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: lot of what it is that I have to offer, 193 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: what it is that I expect in return, what it 194 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: is that I'm willing to do in terms of loyalty 195 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: and love and you know, but I'm also very proud 196 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: to say what it is that I've been able to 197 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: accomplish on my own, but also what I'm willing to 198 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: share in And I think for a lot of people, 199 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: especially women who are successful in what it is that 200 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: they do, find it difficult to find counterparts to find, 201 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, men who can stand up and sort of 202 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: be willing to give just as much as they get. 203 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I could say the same thing for men. 204 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: Men can probably have the same argument, which I also 205 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: hear men complain I'm looking for someone to really date, 206 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: but she just wants this much from me. 207 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: You know. 208 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: Just the other night, this guy's like, you know, I'm 209 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: really ready to talk relationship and women want me to 210 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: send pics of my stuff, like oh no, yeah. I 211 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: think all over the globe people are being met with 212 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: not enough of what it is that they're looking for. 213 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: And I think in this record, I'm unashamed, unafraid to 214 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: say what it is that I have to give, what 215 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: it is that I'm looking for, and hopefully women can 216 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: listen to this and sort of tune in to oh, okay, 217 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: she may need that and I need this. Hey, how 218 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: about this being unafraid to say what it is that 219 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: you're looking for? And I guess that also comes with 220 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: experience and also age. 221 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 2: I want to there's a couple of things that you 222 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: just said that I want to talk about. The honesty 223 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 2: and the vulnerability. I was thinking about this before we 224 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: were recording, and I was thinking of ask starting to 225 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: ask questions because I am in the same space where 226 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: I like for people to say, when are you most vulnerable? 227 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: And it often has something to do with relationships, whether 228 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: it's man or woman and woman man, whomever, your mother's, 229 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: your mother, father, whatever relationship is, that's where you find 230 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: yourself the most vulnerable. And when you are triggered, do 231 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: you put up a wall around your heart and decide 232 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: to proceed and just transform into a transform chot because 233 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: you feel danger of being exposed and you talking about 234 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: what you're looking for in relationships, Been married, been divorced. 235 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: I hear this conversation with men and women the same thing. 236 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: I can't find what I'm looking for. And I've been 237 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: trying to say this and it's been going on for 238 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: a while. This is not new, but it's been going 239 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: on for a while. Where people are still searching. Women 240 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: more specifically, because we'll stay there are searching for something, 241 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: and the more successful you are, it feels like the 242 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: gap gets it becomes wider and wider and wider, and 243 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: and and men say the same thing. Is it a 244 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: is it in our culture? Is it a black thing? 245 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: Or is it men and women in general? In your opinion, 246 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: it's probably uh, I would think now it's a little 247 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: bit of both, honestly, Like, I'm just thinking about it now. 248 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: This isn't something that we've you know, you prepped me 249 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: with these types of questions. But if I had to 250 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: just sure, if I hadn't just go off the top 251 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: of my dome, it is men and women in general, 252 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: because once you've gotten old enough and you're single. See, 253 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: it's one thing to marry early, and then you grow 254 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: into this knowingness of what I like and what by 255 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: by then you've already become extremely tolerant of what's going 256 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: on in relationship, either that or not. And you leave. 257 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: But if you're still there, you've become tolerant. But if 258 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: you've gotten older and you've had a couple of relationships, 259 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: you understand, Okay, I won't do that again. And Nope, 260 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: that is unacceptable and Nope, not going to tolerate that. 261 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: You begin to understand yourself better and what it is 262 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: that you will stand for. You know, even what I've 263 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: learned since my last marriage is Okay, I'm gonna ask 264 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: all the questions. I'm not gonna act like I'm the 265 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: cool girl from down the block where if you're doing 266 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: it's that, and third, I'm alright with it. Or if 267 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: something looks a little fishy, I'm not gonna say I 268 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: smell fish or something here is not right. And with 269 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: that knowingness it becomes That's how the gap gets larger 270 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: and larger, because you can smell what's not right from 271 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: really far off and even if you get right up 272 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: on it and it doesn't smell right, Okay, this isn't 273 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: for me because I'm not ready to I'm not ready 274 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: to lower my standard and play these types of games 275 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: with you. And right now, I'm not even talking about economically. 276 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about at you as a person. How 277 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: it is that you get along or you know, play 278 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: games to get along. I'm not into that, so, but 279 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: I do think it's a little bit of both. It's 280 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: it's woman in man or whatever type of relationship is, 281 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: but it's also. 282 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: Cultural definitely, do you as as you have this this 283 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 2: this I mean, by the way, this can be an 284 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: anthem for so many of us and and what and 285 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: what we want, do you find that these conversations are 286 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: more and more common? And this is why you were 287 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: more willing. I know you said age comes, you know, 288 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: have wisdom, and you've been through a lot and you've 289 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 2: seen a lot. But do you also find that these 290 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: are conversations that are just being had all the time. 291 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they are conversations that are going to happen. Well, 292 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's probably a few conversations happening. One is, 293 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, low level still succumbing to the pressures of 294 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: what is you know, happening in society today. And then 295 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: there's an elevate conversation that's happening where there are real stakes. 296 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: People want real relationships. Yeah, and yes, they want to 297 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: be vulnerable. They want to be in those relationships outside 298 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: of familial relationships. At say I'm gonna be naked. I'm 299 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: gonna strip down all of what it is that I 300 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: put together to help me from not being hurt. You 301 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: want to be because this is the thing. The more 302 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: vulnerable you are, or you allow yourself to be, the 303 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: more you can be seen and the more you can 304 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: be loved for who you really are. You know, all 305 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: of this stuff that we put on thinking that people 306 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: love us, you don't even know who the hell I am. 307 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: Yea, that's not me? Yeah, got it, Yeah, got it, 308 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: got it. Hey, everybody gotta take a quick break. Mama's 309 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: gotta eat. Bills must be paid back in a moment 310 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: with MC like. 311 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: Every champion and carry champions to be a champion, a champion, 312 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: and carry Champion and carry chat Beata Champion and carry 313 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 4: Champion and carry champetainment and naked work, Harry Champion and 314 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: carry Champion is going to be a champion a Champion 315 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 4: And Carrie Chappi and the Champion and Cary Chppion and 316 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 4: carried Shepyament nake you working. 317 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: On y'all remember, well, depending on your age, y'all, remember 318 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: that song gotta what show, Gotta get a roughneck? Gotta 319 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 2: what show, Gotta get a roughneck. That's all I can 320 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: say without incurring some type of fee, But that, to me, 321 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: UH was one of the hallmark UH songs that MC 322 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 2: light had growing up For me, I used to listen 323 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: to that, and I swore I was gonna be a rapper. 324 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: I mean I swore I wanted to be a rapper. 325 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you guys. Anyway, enough of me who 326 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: was not a rapper. Here's more of MC light. I 327 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 2: love this, I love your honesty. I My hope is 328 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: that that everyone can have this and experience this this moment, 329 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: whether it's the music, whether it's the other forms of art, 330 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: other platforms, so they can have this conversation. You have 331 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: always been true with your artistic expression, and there's always 332 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: been that common threat of empowering women. But you also 333 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: had this one song which I used to love, which 334 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: also I think had been in Achilles Hill. For me, 335 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: as I started today is like Roughneck. Yes, you already 336 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: know where I was going. I could mean recite. Wait, 337 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: let me come on, let me get the words again, 338 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: because we you know, me and my girls, we love 339 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: that and there is so much truth to that. Is 340 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: there a part now that you look back on that 341 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: song you listen to the lyrics, Are there things about 342 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: you say I've grown since that, I've grown since Roughneck? 343 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: That's not necessarily what I want or by the way, 344 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: that's exactly what I want, just with a little bit 345 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: more sophistication, right. 346 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: Uh No, when I made this song, it was an 347 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: own to the to the guys from my neighborhood, not 348 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: necessarily the guys I date. So let me clear that up. Yeah, 349 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: it was a real, you know, celebration of all of 350 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: the Caribbean guys because I'm my family was one of 351 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: two American families on a block full of Haitians, Jamaicans, Trinidadians, Basians, 352 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, it was Bahamians everything. You can imagine, this 353 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: melting pot in a section called the nineties in Brooklyn, 354 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: and so it was just an ode to them. And 355 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry if so many during that time. 356 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: Well you know, he was like, yes, thank you speak 357 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: to us. Yes, no, but but I know what that is. 358 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: I know what that flavor is. And you know, unfortunately 359 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: a lot of them are too slick for themselves. So 360 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: I do prefer, you know, someone who definitely has some swag, 361 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: but also it's able to handle their business and their 362 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: responsibilities and understanding that at this age, if you're still 363 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: out on the street trying, I don't know what you're 364 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: doing out there, you know, so yeah, to have that 365 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: that kind of hip hop flavor, that swag. I think 366 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: it's necessary at least to catch my own for a 367 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: lot of us that grew up in the hip hop. 368 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: But then there's also a lot you know, as you 369 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: get older, you kind. 370 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: Of weigh in a way you have been able to. 371 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: And I agree with that wholeheartedly. But you do need 372 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: some swagger. You gotta have some swagger something, you know 373 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: what I mean. You got to have a little and 374 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: they and by the way, men want that from women 375 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: as well, like they like a woman who is very 376 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: comfortable in our own skin and can do. The argument 377 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: of the conversation that I have had most recently with 378 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: this guy that I am dating is that men now 379 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: feel like women have defined themselves by what they do 380 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: and what they make, how much money they make, and 381 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: who they are, what their title is. And oftentimes you 382 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: hear man say, well, I don't want I don't want 383 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: to marry myself, or I don't want to date myself, 384 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: I want to date a woman. Well, that's true, they've 385 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: I have, I believe, and I read this in the 386 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: New York Times, but I believe this to be true. 387 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 2: It's a different time it's not when our grandparents were 388 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: getting married or our grandmothers were getting married because they 389 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: had to because they couldn't get credit cards, because they 390 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: couldn't work, because they couldn't make a living. And now 391 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: men are being required to have personalities and developed and 392 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: know more, and it's making them uncomfortable. And I'm okay 393 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: with the learning aspect of this process. But what I 394 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: have been able to sit back and really appreciate is 395 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: this evolution of women in every possible way. You have 396 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: been able to have a career that has expanded over 397 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: three plus decades and that has unheard of and and 398 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: might I mentioned, look damn good the entire time. You've 399 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 2: never not shown up. Oh yeah, she look good, you 400 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, you've never not always been 401 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: looking amazing and graceful and elegant but still real. And 402 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: you have garnered over the years. People know that you 403 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: have different friendships with different people and different celebrities. How 404 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: are you able in this game that is so when 405 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: people just love you for who you are, if you're 406 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: on the top and disappear, how have you been able 407 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: to foster these great relationships with people of note that 408 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: are really truly seemingly just from my eye not necessarily 409 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 2: know of them that are authentic. How have you been 410 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: able to do that with the Jadas of the world, 411 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: which I think she's amazing, or with you know, I 412 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: think you and Dane are friends. I've seen you in 413 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: these worlds and these people really truly seem to have 414 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: great relationships, and I wonder how you do that in 415 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: this industry. 416 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: Well, what I can say about those two really deep 417 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: sister hood is at play with both of those people. 418 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: And I think it's one because we started out so early. 419 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's a certain amount of trust and a 420 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: willingness to be vulnerable with people who you know want 421 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: nothing from you, that have only brought goodness and you know, 422 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: love into the friendship. And I think those are the 423 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: cornerstones right there for what makes a great foundation for 424 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: great sisterhood. And it's wanting. It's wanting nothing. So if 425 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: we don't talk, and however long, the first time we talk, 426 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: it's not like where you've been I, you know, I, 427 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: it's never that state. It's always a state of giving. 428 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: It's a hey, how you been, how's it going. Yes, 429 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: we are both aware it's been a long time since 430 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: we've spoken, but no love is lost, you know so, 431 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: and it's a willingness to have an ear and understand 432 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: that there will be times when we talk where someone 433 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: has much more to say than the other, and so 434 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: then you just listen and then the next time, you know, 435 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: the next go around, you'll get a chance to say, 436 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: bop body boa, what do you think about that? And 437 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: then you might get some sound advice from what it 438 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: is that you're going through at that time. So I 439 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: think it's just a give and take and knowing where 440 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: you know the position that you're in and that they're in. 441 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just a willingness to move. 442 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: With the flow. Amen, Amen, I sive that you I 443 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: was reading today, I was prepping for The Wiz. Tell 444 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: me if I'm writer this. I was going to attend 445 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: tomorrow and I'm looking at the the tomorrow, which is 446 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: the opening night of The Whiz, which is on Broadway. 447 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: Let me be very specific you all. April seventeenth, which 448 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: is a Wednesday. I was looking at some of the 449 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: producers and special producers behind the scenes and whose name 450 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: do I see? I see your name? Now, tell me 451 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: about your contributions as a producer. I'm assuming they said 452 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: that's what it said on the playbill. Uh to the Whiz, 453 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: which is a remake of a beautiful movie based on 454 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: the Wizard of Oz. But then we did it the 455 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: black version with the Whiz with Diana Ross, which was 456 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 2: amazing and Michael Jackson and all of these amazing, amazing 457 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 2: luminaries in the culture. And now it is revived. It's 458 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: been revived a few times, but I think this is 459 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: really special. Tell me about your role in that, and 460 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: it's in its release. 461 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: As a yeah, sure thing. As a producer, our company 462 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: MC light and Lynn Richardson, we decided that this was 463 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: something that we wanted to participate in. When they told 464 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: us that there was an opportunity to become involved as producers, 465 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: we didn't think, uh, we didn't have the thing. Twice 466 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: we were like, yes, you need to do it. So 467 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: we wound up going to the opening night at the Hippodrome. 468 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: And I think what we loved most about this particular 469 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: presentation or rendition of The Whiz is that they took 470 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: it out on the road first and then landed it 471 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: in Broadway. And you know, usually it's the opposite. You 472 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: start on Broadway and then you go out. But once 473 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: we heard the plan, we were even that much more 474 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: excited about it. I think at this point Candy was attached, 475 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, Burst the Mogul and Common and so you know, 476 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: lucky for me, Common Coo and my CEO are sore 477 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: wars of Delta Sigma Theta Incorporated, Sorority Incorporated. 478 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: Can't very serious, you got to be very clear. 479 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: And so once we heard about the opportunity of reached 480 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: out and spoke to the production. Everything they had to 481 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: say was so awesome, Like who wouldn't want to be 482 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: involved in the twenty twenty three to twenty four to 483 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: who knows how long rendition of the Wiz? 484 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: What does the Wiz represent? 485 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: Freedom? To me, it represents freedom. And I've watched it 486 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: across the nation this go out, the end of this 487 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: go round. I've seen it in Baltimore at the launch 488 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: of seen it in Chicago and San Francisco, And to me, 489 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: every time I see it, I learn a little bit 490 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: more about each of the characters and how and how 491 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: they really represent a piece of who we are as 492 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: say humans, but as spirits having this human experience here 493 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: and that's the need for love and relationship and courage, 494 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: and all of the many things that are represented in 495 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: the show, but also what each of them are going through, 496 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: and that's a spat of loneliness that is filled with 497 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: We can sometimes be filled with fear of the unknown, 498 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: but when in fact you open yourself up for collaboration, 499 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: because it all starts on a journey where this young 500 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: woman feels like she's alone. But if she leaves herself 501 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: open along her journey, she's able to collaborate with people 502 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: who are going through things that are made or may 503 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: not be just alike, but they all have something that 504 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: they need to work on that lives within. But it's 505 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: these other people that they let in, which to me 506 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: are like angels that God is speaking through that says 507 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: you are and have exactly what it is that you're 508 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: looking for on the outside is actually in. So I 509 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: love the story. I've never water seeing it. I hope 510 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: that you make it to see it on its day. 511 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: If not, it'll be there for minutes. 512 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: So if you missed the beadles to see it, by 513 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: the time that this airs, I will have seen it 514 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: and I will be able to properly give it its 515 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: just due. And it's review that I'm sure is amazing 516 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: for you to describe that. It represents freedom and it 517 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: makes you understand that everyone is on a journey looking 518 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: for connection. That is the essence of life. We are 519 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: all in this life right now looking for connection if 520 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: we don't have it, and connecting is so important. I 521 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: think our bodies craved, our mind's craved, and if we're 522 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: honest and open, it's why we It's why sometimes you 523 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: get angry, we get sad, we get depressed because we're 524 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: lacking that necessary connection to be seen and to be 525 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: heard and be valued. And yet again, another project that 526 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: you are a part of that speaks to the human condition. 527 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder if I mean, I know when 528 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: I'm around my girls and I and my people who 529 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: love me most, they hype me and they tell me 530 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: all the amazing things that I am. Do you understand 531 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: your contribution to us as a culture, to the to 532 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: hip hop, to women? Do you understand why we all 533 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: have this reaction of honor and reverence when when we talk. 534 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: To you, Do I understand? 535 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: Because people don't like compliments. People don't like compliments. It's 536 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: hard for people to receive compliments. And when people tell 537 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: you that, do you get uncomfortable and do you do 538 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: you think it's too much or you're like, yeah, okay, 539 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: you're right. 540 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: No, I do not get uncomfortable. Oh good, And yes 541 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: I do air more on the side of being accepting 542 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: of it, because this is this is what we're working for, right, 543 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: is to be able to touch and inspire and lead 544 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 1: people to a better version of themselves. And I can 545 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: only become a better version of myself if if I 546 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: see the reaction or I'm told the honest truth about 547 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: what it is that I have caused. Right, So there's 548 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: cause and effect. So I want to know what have 549 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: I caused? Oh I did it. That's a good thing. 550 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for letting me know that I'm 551 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: moving in in the right direction. And you know, it's funny. 552 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: I talked with I don't know what else to call her. 553 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: Accept your aid, your assistant, your pre producer, a poice. Yeah, 554 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: we talked about these records back here, and I said 555 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to attend Norfolk State University 556 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: the way that I had planned. I actually sent my money, 557 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: filled out my forms. I was on my way and 558 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: hip Hop interrupted that and I let it. I allowed 559 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: hip Hop to come into my life and lead me 560 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: off to Denmark, to Copenhagen where I had my first 561 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: tour in September when I was supposed to start at 562 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: Norfolk State University. And so these are my degrees, these 563 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: are my diplomas. And you know once the last record 564 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: I put out was in twenty fourteen, wow, years ago. 565 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: And so now my diploma is in what you just 566 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: said to me. My degree is in you know that 567 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: young kid who said he listened to that song and 568 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: now this is what inspired him to do whatever it 569 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: is that he's doing now, or people seeing me. I've 570 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: been in business for over thirty something years, and it 571 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: inspires other people that say, you know what, I'm going 572 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: to get into this hip hop thing. I don't know 573 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: where it's going to lead me or how, when, why 574 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: and what, but I'm gonna go because she was successful 575 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: and I can probably do that too. 576 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 3: Very Champion and carry champions. 577 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: To be a champion, a champion and carry chapion and 578 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 4: carry chat be out a champion and carry chapion and 579 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 4: carry Chaffraid is the sports and entertainment getting naked weird. 580 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 3: Erry champion and carry champions. 581 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 4: To be a champion, a champion and carry Champion, Nigger 582 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 4: Kitty shot a Champion and carry. 583 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: Champion and carry Chappy Entertainment getting naked word. 584 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: I am constantly in awe. And I'll give you just 585 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: some names, right, some of which we just mentioned, but 586 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: you know, yes, like a Queen, Latifah, a Jada, a 587 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 2: l O, Cool Jay, Fat Joe for that matter. Uh, 588 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: the early pioneers of this game have been There have 589 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 2: been a handful, not more than a quite frankly, that 590 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: have been able to transition, to pivot to still rely 591 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: on the source of what they are, their foundation and 592 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: what people made them known, but still work this game 593 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: to today. And I often liken it too when they 594 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: talk about the actors that were triple threats back in 595 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 2: the day, the black and white movies that you would watch. 596 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: My mom made me watch black and white movies, and 597 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: you would have to be able to sing and dance, 598 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: an act You have to do it all. You couldn't 599 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: just be a one trick pony. And I don't know 600 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: if you could have looked at your career when you 601 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: were at the top of your career and noticed how 602 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: you would have been able to pivot and transition and 603 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 2: still be relevant. Not that that matters, but still have 604 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 2: an impact and still be able to do what you 605 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: love in various indifferent branches of this interest industry. 606 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: Had you known that, Uh no, No, I didn't, But 607 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: I do know that I can attribute it to a 608 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: great team. You know, it really takes looking at this 609 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: industry as a business, and when you fail to do 610 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 1: that is when you don't make it into the land 611 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: of ten year, twenty year, thirty year business. You know, 612 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: we have people that run our companies that know business 613 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: and how to strateguys and how to plan. Yeah, you 614 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: need the team, especially if you're going to stay in 615 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: your lane, which is creative. You know, with all sorts 616 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: of reasons, I can try to come up out of 617 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: my lane to do this, that and the third, and 618 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: I'm reminded very quickly that's not where I here now. 619 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: Also liking it too, you know, as an artist that 620 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: creates whatever it is that you're creating, whether it's music 621 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: or film, TV, painting, whatever the case. You have this 622 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: football that you need a court. You're the quarterback, and 623 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: you need a running back to catch that ball and 624 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: take it down the field. Not just stuck with all 625 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: of these ideas, you become disgruntled because none of them 626 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: are coming to manifestation and so you need the team 627 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: of people that are going to help you sustain, maintain, 628 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: and grow. 629 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: A man for a team. Is there anything any project 630 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: before I let you go? Is there any project that 631 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: you are working on that I did not mention as 632 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 2: of late? I want to make sure I got two 633 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: of them, which is the congratulations on producing the whiz 634 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 2: this freedom play as we just called it because it 635 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 2: is that it is beautiful being one of the producers there, 636 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: and also congratulations on the single. And is there anything 637 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: else that that you're working on that you wanted to promote? 638 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: Well, there's quite a few things. I made. I directorial 639 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: debut not so long ago with a short call break 640 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: Up in Love, which it's about a couple undoing but 641 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: trying to do it lovingly. It's actually on YouTube. People 642 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: could check it out break Up in Love dot com. Okay, 643 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: uh huh. And it's going to be more projects that 644 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: I look to direct. We have a music video that 645 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 1: i've you know, I've never done a music video before 646 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: and so I just directed my first. It's called bu 647 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: with an artist called Van Van who is an internet 648 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: sensation that's my book. 649 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 3: I love. 650 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: He and Aris Harris. Uh yeah, everybody loves Van, you know. 651 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: But I got a chance to direct their video called 652 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: bu and so I'm excited. You can also see that 653 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: on YouTube. And we have a whole album coming it's 654 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: called One One. Warren Campbell and myself. You know, I said, 655 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: he's my pastor, and so it's so great to be 656 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: able to do music with someone who under stands where 657 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: I am today and you know, doesn't push or press 658 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: me into saying anything that doesn't feel natural, that isn't 659 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 1: truthful to who I am. And we're having a good time. 660 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of great people on that record, 661 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: common Q tip, Anthony Hamilton. Yeah, got space, Little Mama. 662 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: The list keeps growing, but I'm really content with what 663 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: it is that we're building and growing. And Woman is 664 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 1: just the first installment to that record. And yes, there's 665 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: so many other things going on, but it's a list. 666 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: Which I love. Look, keep you busy, keep me creative. 667 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 2: That's where I live. That's my safe space and I 668 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 2: love that for you. Thank you for being so gracious 669 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: and tay in the time. I have this one last question, 670 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: you can tell me. I think acting, directing performing producing. 671 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 2: Is there something if you have your biggest dream and 672 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 2: you could write it out, what would it be? Is 673 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 2: there something that you can quiet and you're like, you know, 674 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: you got to take the you know, as Brene Brown 675 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 2: would say, uh, take the take the power away from 676 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: the secret. Would you say it out loud if there 677 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: was something that you've been anticipating and wanting to do 678 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 2: but haven't quite gotten there yet. 679 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: Uh, that's a you know, what would be great to 680 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: just have a successful relationship. 681 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: Amen, I love that I love you. 682 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: This relates to entertainment. That's great, that's great, that's great. 683 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: But really I'm in a great relationship now and I 684 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: just want to have all the love and the patience 685 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: and compassion that that I can must and so I've 686 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: given it to God. And let's see, let's see. I 687 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: wasn't even gonna go there by the way. I was like, well, 688 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: because you know, I try it. I'm so ultra private, 689 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: so I try to respect it. But it said in 690 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: essence you were dating someone in twenty twenty three. I 691 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: was like, I think she got a boob, but I'm 692 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: not gonna get into it. But yes, I let's touch 693 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: and agree on a successful relationship, the connection that we 694 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: all want as humans. 695 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 2: Amen, I receive that for you. Thank you for being 696 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: beautiful inside and out, and I appreciate the time. I 697 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 2: really do thank you for. 698 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: This time of being on your platform, and I look 699 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: forward to the next time we speak, okay or see 700 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: each other in person. MC Light, thank you so much 701 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: for being naked. 702 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: I want to thank MC light for coming on the 703 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 2: podcast today, and I'm gonna take it one step further. 704 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: She is so wise. Wisdom and understanding is something that 705 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 2: I think we all should aspire to. And four. Reading 706 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 2: my Bible the other day, Proverbs three, and I am 707 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 2: going to get spiritual on you guys. It says to 708 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 2: the people on you all. It says, the people who 709 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 2: are going to inherit all the things that they want, 710 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 2: have wisdom and understanding. And I truly believe that listening 711 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 2: to her, her energy, her presence, you could tell that 712 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 2: she has lived a life and she's learned a lot. 713 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 2: And I am so grateful when I cross people that way, 714 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: because it reminds me when I come across people like 715 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 2: mc it reminds me of what really truly is our 716 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 2: purpose here and what we should be looking for be 717 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 2: kind and gracious to ourselves to others. But also that 718 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: comes with wisdom, and that comes with understanding, if you 719 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 2: don't really truly love yourself, how can you love anybody else. 720 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 2: If you're harder yourself, you're gonna be hard on other people. 721 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: And I love that I can see that instead of 722 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: us just talking about all of the projects, you know, 723 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 2: which is what we did do, but it was more 724 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: of a personal, intimate conversation about where she is in 725 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 2: her life. That's what this single is about. Go out 726 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: and support it. She also mentioned that she EPs The 727 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 2: Wiz and I want to go see it on opening night. 728 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 2: Amazing play costumes were amazing. Shout out to Wayne Brady 729 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 2: who played the Wiz. Deborah Cox, you guys know her 730 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: as a singer. She played the good Witch Dorothy. She's 731 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 2: an upstart, but she's well known on Broadway, but was 732 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 2: amazing as well. The audience was filled with so many luminaries. 733 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 2: Stephanie Mills was there. Do you guys remember Stephanie Mills 734 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: the original Dorothy and the Whiz on Broadway? That is, 735 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: you remember Dynah at the movie And if you don't, 736 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: you should google all of this. But it was really 737 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,439 Speaker 2: it was special. Hillary Rodama A Clinton was in the house, 738 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: HRC was there. It was a beautiful, beautiful tribute to 739 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: the culture, to our version of fantasy, our version of mystery. 740 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 2: There was so much beautiful singing and in dancing. The 741 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: dancing was off the chart. Shout out to my guy 742 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: Adam Blackstone who has been on this podcast. He did 743 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 2: a lot of the music and the dancing and it's 744 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: just amazing. It was just amazing. God No, Debbie Allen 745 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 2: worked on this in some capacity, but I encourage you 746 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 2: all if you get to New York to see The Whiz. 747 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: It is worth it. And shout out to again MC 748 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: light for diversifying her portfolio and knowing that this was 749 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: a project that she wanted to invest in because it's genius. 750 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 2: I wish the one would have came to me and 751 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 2: said you got some coinage carry for the Whiz, because 752 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 2: I would have given it up. It is arguably. I 753 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 2: bet you it's going to be on Broadway for a 754 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 2: very long time. Do yourself a favor, do your family 755 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: and friends of favor, go see it. Perfect gift, all 756 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 2: of the things. It was just spectacular. Now with that 757 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 2: being said, I want to thank mc Light again for 758 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 2: sharing her her heart, herself and being naked. I also 759 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 2: want to really appreciate the moment that we're in. Women 760 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 2: are it. We are on top. Beyonce telling y'all that 761 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 2: I can do I can do anything in any genre. 762 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 2: I don't care if you don't like country music and 763 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 2: you don't necessarily care for what she did. She said, 764 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: I'm here and we are here to say I am 765 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: one man. Hear me, roar I can do what I 766 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: want and I can make it great. I mean literally, 767 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 2: that's what that country album is MC light. Look, woman, 768 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm celebrating you. Look at all the things that we've 769 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 2: been through, and when we get to a certain phase 770 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 2: in our lives, we just want peace and we want 771 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: people to be there for us as we are there 772 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 2: for them and we support them. Women's sports I could 773 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 2: talk about that all day. I know that you guys 774 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 2: have been well aware of the Angel Reese and the 775 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clarks of the world. W NBA Draft was a huge, 776 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 2: huge success. I have people talking to me about sports 777 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 2: who've never ever ever had any interest in sports. That 778 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: also frustrates me because you guys are trying to tell 779 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: me what I already know, and I'm like, go sit down. 780 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 2: I already know that, but it's okay. Welcome to the 781 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 2: world of sports. Nevertheless, enjoy this edition of Naked. Support 782 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 2: the Wiz support EMC Light's latest single with an album coming, 783 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 2: as she has shared with us, support women's sports, support 784 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: all women period. End of discussion. Thank you all for 785 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: listening to Naked. See you next week.