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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 3: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcasts Guy, John Kenny Florian,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, you want a podcast? Great? Stay have

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Speaker 3: some audio on your website that nobody goes to. You're

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Speaker 3: your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's your mother's favorite part of the week, right,

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Speaker 4: Annaik and Florent Podcast, Monday, December twenty third, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 4: Episode two thirty of the Anak and Floriano. In our

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Speaker 4: final episode of twenty nineteen, Kemp Flaugh looks like, I

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Speaker 4: don't know if you dressed up. I mean, you look

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Speaker 4: a lot better than me. I have no real fashion sense,

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Speaker 4: but it seems like there's product in your hair. A

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Speaker 4: very nice necklace around your neck. Jean jacket that's probably

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Speaker 4: not cheap.

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Speaker 5: I look good, thanks, it's the anacon Florian Podcast. Of

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Speaker 5: course I'm gonna dress up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, actually, I'm probably going with my daughter later

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Speaker 1: to go see Santa Claus Son take some pictures, so I.

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Speaker 5: Gotta look good, all right.

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Speaker 4: You know, of course you're good shots with Santa Claus

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Speaker 4: and you know your public figures every time you go out.

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Speaker 4: You know, my wife's always banging on me. When the

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Speaker 4: rare instance in which I get recognized and I'm wearing

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Speaker 4: I just dress like a total fucking bump down.

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Speaker 1: Well, they always see you in a suit. If you're

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Speaker 1: not wearing a suit, you're like, what the hell? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's like a mind blowing thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. You know, Rebox sends me sweatpants. I

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Speaker 4: cut them and like that's what I wear out, Just

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Speaker 4: a total masts. That's really embarrassing. Actually, you know the

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Speaker 4: only thing, my only saving grace is that my twin brother,

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Speaker 4: as Ian Parker, who who joins us live now, can

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Speaker 4: attest dresses like a bum too. So it's like it's

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Speaker 4: in our DNA if we don't have to look proper.

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Speaker 4: We really don't. All right, so Ian Parkers.

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Speaker 6: Top swish thing and I love team Sweatpants, come all yeah, no, right,

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Speaker 6: very well, could be a jewish thing because yeah, you

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Speaker 6: know you're not addressed to the nines when we go

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Speaker 4: And I appreciate that. So, uh, Ian Parker's gonna be

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Speaker 4: with us off the top today in some part because

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Speaker 4: we want to announce that the winner of the twenty

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Speaker 4: nineteen Main Event Challenge UH is Kenny Floory and he

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Speaker 4: won in twenty eighteen, and Ken Flow takes the Main

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Speaker 4: Event Challenge again. One fifty five, one fifty three. I

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Speaker 4: believe the final, can Flow. I wanted Ian Parker to

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Speaker 4: be here for for the congratulations, Uh, outstanding job. You

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Speaker 4: were in an early hole, obviously a real big hole

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Speaker 4: three or four months in against a lot of our listeners,

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Speaker 4: and uh, obviously you you rallied and you win again,

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Speaker 4: my man, I tip my cap.

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Speaker 5: To you, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Don't count out your boy who was down by a

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Speaker 1: significant magine early part of the year, and boy did

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Speaker 1: I come back.

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Speaker 5: Boy did I come back.

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Speaker 4: We're talking fifteen or twenty points early in the year.

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Speaker 4: Ian valiant effort out of you. Obviously you were neck

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Speaker 4: and neck for the most part there with the flow.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I'll say, right, and because I don't

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Speaker 4: like to interfere with the with with team annex selection

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Speaker 4: as Ian Parker as our head man, you're the front man.

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Speaker 4: Might be Team Parker next year. I haven't decided what

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Speaker 4: we're gonna do with the little fucking bit that we play.

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Speaker 4: But you gotta go, Charles Air Jordaine if your main

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Speaker 4: event challenge life is on the line, right, It's a

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Speaker 4: math equation at this point, Ian, right, I mean, how

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Speaker 4: do you not go, Charles Air Jordaine.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you why. So number one, winning with

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Speaker 6: Pantosia put me within how many points? One or one

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Speaker 6: point or two points? Right?

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Speaker 4: And then well but you also had you had uzdamir

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Speaker 4: By decision though you and you had uzdamir By decision

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Speaker 4: as well, right, so that you got an extra point.

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Speaker 6: Right, So I don't so here here's the only that

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Speaker 6: kind of sucked. I wanted to text you I didn't

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Speaker 6: think you were awake goo to ask what the score

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Speaker 6: was after the Uzdemir fight. Here's the thing, because if

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Speaker 6: Jordane would have lost, okay, and Uzdemir would have won

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Speaker 6: by not unanimous decision. No matter what I did in

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Speaker 6: because it was mere won by decision, having Frankie in

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Speaker 6: the main event gave me an opportunity to win. That's

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Speaker 6: that's the only thing, you know.

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Speaker 4: So after Pantosia and Uzdemir by decision, it was tied

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Speaker 5: The main event, fucked up, man, So you.

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Speaker 4: Could have gone Korean Zombie Round one knockout and thereby

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Speaker 4: would have completed an epic comeback. So but again I digress.

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Speaker 4: It was close. It goes flo. I just think that

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Speaker 4: if it is this close, right, because we were very

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Speaker 4: fortunate for the sake of the main event challenge that

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Speaker 4: it was this close in twenty nineteen. So next year,

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Speaker 4: if it's this close, whoever's down. I mean, you got

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Speaker 4: to really be in communicationation at whatever hour on the

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Speaker 4: final day of the UFC count know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'll make a great point the opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Ken hell you got, And you.

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Speaker 1: Make a great point as far as how Superboy Korean

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Speaker 1: Superboy matched up against Air Jordan. He has the tendency

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Speaker 1: of just throwing down the other kid, really tough kid

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Speaker 1: from Canada. He likes to throw down as well. Ended

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Speaker 1: up getting it done and I squeaked out a victory.

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Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, pending like I'm cocky, but I

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Speaker 1: I snuck out of there with the win I got.

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Speaker 4: It's a win. It's been a lot of winning for

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow. Fourth quarter twenty nineteen jiu Jitsu podiums, the

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Speaker 4: Nicmploring podcast Man Challenge. So as far as the punishment

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Speaker 4: is concerned, right, so can Flow back in the Day

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Speaker 4: twenty fifteen lost the main Event Challenge and owes me

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Speaker 4: four hours of babysitting. He didn't make good on that

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Speaker 4: last year. I think I owe Kenny a power hour, right.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of our listeners are like, can you

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Speaker 4: guys like start paying these things off? I mean, I

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Speaker 4: certainly paid off one of these. The Vegemite sandwich was

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Speaker 4: a forgettable experience, right, So we're gonna throw out one

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen main Event Challenge. So Ian and I have

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Speaker 4: to make good on something, So we'll open it up

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Speaker 4: to the listeners at antik Florian pod on Twitter, on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: What should the punishment be for me and Ian Parker.

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna French kiss, like if you're gonna pack

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Speaker 4: him on the lips and that's good enough, great. But

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Speaker 4: if you have an idea as to what we should

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Speaker 4: put ourselves through, feel free to chime in at anti

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Speaker 4: Florian pod. But as far as the fight is concerned,

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Speaker 4: because we do need to move on can flow. The

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Speaker 4: Korean zombie Chan Sung Jung by first round TKO against

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Speaker 4: Frankie Edgar. The fight lasted three minutes and eighteen seconds

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Speaker 4: total domination from the Korean zombie. Frankie just couldn't get

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Speaker 4: untracked at all. I kind of agreed with Ian Parker's

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Speaker 4: assessment that for Frankie to take this fight twice, they

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Speaker 4: seem to like something in the matchup, especially to take

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Speaker 4: it this second time on short notice. I didn't love

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Speaker 4: this quick a fight, but it goes to the Korean zombie.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts on the main event this weekend.

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Speaker 5: I didn't love the matchup for him as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, big Frankie Edgar fan and a guy who

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Speaker 1: has believed in him for a long time now. But

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Speaker 1: I didn't love that fight, especially on short notice. I

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Speaker 1: think Korean Zombie is one of those really dangerous fighters

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Speaker 1: and has no regard for his own safety at all.

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Speaker 1: He's willing to do whatever it takes to get you

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Speaker 1: out of there. He doesn't want to just beat you,

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Speaker 1: he wants to stop you, and that is a very

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Speaker 5: I think that he was pretty dominant early on.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that Frankie Edgar was able to

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Speaker 1: He was The problem when you fight someone like Korean

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Speaker 1: Zombie is he is hit aable and you think he's

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Speaker 1: he can just trade. And ultimately he landed a big

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Speaker 1: that clipped him right on the chin. Frankie wasn't able

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Speaker 1: Zombie was just all over him because of him.

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Speaker 4: And what did you think of the Korean Zombie And

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Speaker 4: would you agree with my assessment that on any given

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Speaker 4: Saturday night he can he can beat any featherweight in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's funny. We go back to Frankie

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Speaker 6: real quick. The question is would Frankie have done? And

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Speaker 6: I love frank Jeger obviously I was really hoping he'd

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Speaker 6: was no easy task for him. And he got tagged early.

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Speaker 6: You know, that's the thing. Frankie is deceptibly getting tagged early,

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Speaker 6: and he did and Zombie doesn't stop. But you know

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Speaker 6: haven't seen at a Zombie. You know, Zombie is usually

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Speaker 6: But now, I just you know, is he not getting

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Speaker 6: eye surgery right, so he could be out for a

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Speaker 6: little bit, but he looks fantastic and asking John to

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Speaker 6: your point, yeah, any given night, if he lands on

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Speaker 6: anybody in that late division, lights out, you know, and

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Speaker 6: that includes the new champ Alexander Volkanowski, even though super

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Speaker 6: tough guy as well, to eat some shots. I just

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Speaker 6: I think a shot in the Korean Zombie is just

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Speaker 4: I don't know the extent to which Volkanovsky would be

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Speaker 4: able to work volume takedowns and his wrestling against the

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Speaker 4: Korean Zombie. I certainly think it'd be a fun striking

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Speaker 4: engagement if those two were to collide. But I do

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Speaker 4: think at any given time, the Korean Zombie feels like

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Speaker 4: he's one win away in an eliminator type spot from

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Speaker 4: getting that championship opportunity once again. So amazing to think

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Speaker 4: what his career would have been without the military service.

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Speaker 4: I know that's a popular sort of part of the

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Speaker 4: to talk about it without bringing that up. Kent on

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Speaker 4: the other side, Frank Edgar, you know, I don't know

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Speaker 4: if he'll be afforded the opportunity to make this quick

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Speaker 4: turn and fight Corey Sandagan January twenty fifth at Danham.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy, and I think you overstate the risk a

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Speaker 4: All right, And anything else on this Korea card before

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Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen for the MMA leader, I think it was

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Speaker 4: this was obviously a huge year. Let us begin with

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Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year, boys, and this is a little

432
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Speaker 4: bit tricky because the fighter must have debuted in the

433
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Speaker 4: UFC in twenty nineteen, so had a lot of talent

434
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Speaker 4: come into the UFC fourth quarter of twenty eighteen. Guys

435
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Speaker 4: like sadiek Use if not under consideration here. So Rookie

436
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Speaker 4: of the Year in twenty nineteen can flow and any

437
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Speaker 4: names come to mind in terms of your nominations, Well.

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Speaker 1: You know, I gotta say jay Ere rosen Strike has

439
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Speaker 1: to be the guy. No nolly did he officially make

440
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Speaker 1: his debut in twenty nineteen, which is kind of crazy

441
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Speaker 1: considering he just knocked out Alistair over him. But he

442
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: went undefeated for the year, won a huge fight in

443
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Speaker 1: a comeback win over one of the biggest stars in

444
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Speaker 1: UFC heavyweight history in Alistair overhim, and the fact that

445
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Speaker 1: he was able to get it done in that manner,

446
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Speaker 1: in that kind of violent manner, I think he's got

447
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Speaker 1: to be the leading candidate right now.

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Speaker 5: For me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta think Ian that if if there was

450
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Speaker 4: a true voting body and you had to determine this

451
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Speaker 4: based on a specific criteria four and oh for rosen

452
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Speaker 4: Strike kind of distances him from the competition. You know,

453
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Speaker 4: I would make a nomination for Greg Hardy big picture,

454
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Speaker 4: even though he went two and two with one no contests.

455
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Speaker 4: Right your criteria is a guy making his debut in

456
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Speaker 4: the UFC and you're looking at upside or I don't know.

457
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 4: I'm just saying the guy made five UFC starts in

458
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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. He won two of them. There was obviously

459
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Speaker 4: some controversy there was Inhilers and no contests and a

460
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Speaker 4: bunch of bullshit. But I don't know that I like

461
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Speaker 4: rosen strike ceiling exponentially more than I like Greg Hardy's

462
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Speaker 4: Right now, I'm just saying I know he's got much

463
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Speaker 4: more kickboxing chops and potential ian A couple other names

464
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Speaker 4: I'll throw your way. I know you brought up Cyril

465
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Speaker 4: Ghana off air. Three and oh in the UFC, Grant Dawson,

466
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Speaker 4: a guy who I think deserves a nomination. Two and

467
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Speaker 4: oh there out of Missouri Crone Gracie lost to fight.

468
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Speaker 4: Felicia Spencer lost to fight. You know, I think Ya

469
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Speaker 4: Viviani ota Ujo two and one in the UFC just

470
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Speaker 4: lost a fight to Jessica I ben Askron. One and

471
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Speaker 4: two Amanda Heboss, I think is a worthy nominade.

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Speaker 6: Two and oh that's a name I was gonna throw

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Speaker 6: out there absolutely.

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Speaker 4: So what do you think I mean? Am I missing

475
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Speaker 4: anybody for Rookie of the Year kid?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, I think there's such a difference between

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Speaker 6: a Rosen Strike and even a guy like a Chase

479
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Speaker 6: Hooper type of thing, or even like a Guana, only

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Speaker 6: because I think when it comes to the Rookie of

481
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Speaker 6: the Year, you know, obviously it's hard to find guys

482
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Speaker 6: that literally debut in nineteen and have such a huge impact,

483
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Speaker 6: and no one other than Rosen Strike I think really

484
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Speaker 6: checks up all the boxes to where he is to date.

485
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Speaker 6: And now on top of that, let's even throw out

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Speaker 6: there who he's got coming up on his calendar, and

487
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Speaker 6: Frances and Ganu. You know, so there's no one else

488
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Speaker 6: out of all the names we listen granted, all great names,

489
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Speaker 6: they've all done their job, bought some debuts for the year.

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Speaker 6: I think roses Strike is the unanimous one. Not that

491
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Speaker 6: we're giving away the award right now, but in this category,

492
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Speaker 6: no one else is anywhere near him of what he's

493
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Speaker 6: done in this year.

494
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Speaker 4: All right, honorable mention, Deshan Woodson, Brad Riddell, a couple

495
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Speaker 4: of featherweight to make their UFC debuts this year. But

496
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Speaker 4: the nominees are going to be Gyzenio, rosen Strike, Siro Ghana,

497
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Speaker 4: Grant Dawson, Amanda Heabus, and we'll throw Greg Hardy in there.

498
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Speaker 4: Just see if the masses want to come at me

499
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Speaker 4: a little bit for nominating.

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Speaker 6: Gregor because John and I live near him. That's fine too.

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00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's there. It is all right, breakout Star of

502
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Speaker 4: the Year. You can go any direction you want here.

503
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Speaker 4: I think rosen Strikes a guy who deserves consideration. Pyotr

504
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 4: Jan Edmund Shabazian are the first two names. That come

505
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Speaker 4: to mind for me. You could even argue Kenny, Guys

506
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Speaker 4: like Dominic Reis or Shane Burgos or Walt Harris who

507
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: had been around for a while but got to that

508
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Speaker 4: next level in twenty nineteen deserve consideration and any name

509
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Speaker 4: on the tip of your tongue for breakout star of

510
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Speaker 4: the year.

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Speaker 1: All right, these are three. These are kind of like

512
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Speaker 1: catechport No no, I do. I think, First of all,

513
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Speaker 1: there's Alexander Volkanowski, who really quietly has come up here

514
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: and become a world champion over Max Holloway, a guy

515
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Speaker 1: who everybody believed to be and probably is the best

516
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Speaker 1: beaueight of all time. I don't think people were considering

517
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Speaker 1: him this star necessarily prior to twenty nineteen, so I

518
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Speaker 1: think you have to have him in There. Israel out

519
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Speaker 1: of Sonia, who I'll probably mention another few times. Uh

520
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: kind of went from uh, you know, a guy with

521
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: a tremendous potential to now being a world champion and

522
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Speaker 1: doing it in a tremendous fashion. I think you could

523
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Speaker 1: call him, you know, he's on the upper echelon of

524
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: stars now, but certainly a big jump up in his

525
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Speaker 1: stardom from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: those those are two guys that really come to mind.

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Speaker 1: Henry so Hudo had a tremendous year. He was already

528
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Speaker 1: kind of a big deal. But uh, you know, triple C.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you triple fucking see. And and it really

530
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Speaker 4: doesn't matter which way you go with breakout star of

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Speaker 4: the year. I think Volkanovsky is a great consideration when

532
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Speaker 4: I threw this category of your way early this morning,

533
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Speaker 4: any name come to mind for you, Kenny?

534
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Speaker 6: How did you leave out Street Jesus Game Brand, Jae Mazov.

535
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Speaker 5: That's the other one.

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Speaker 1: And it's weird to say it, right because he's been

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Speaker 1: around for freaking ever, but now he's on the tip

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Speaker 1: of very That's.

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Speaker 6: The definition, though, right, that's definition. Think about that, right,

540
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Speaker 6: a guy who's been around forever today finally has the

541
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Speaker 6: year of his career. He you know, he beats till.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that I mean, I don't know

543
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Speaker 6: if that was nineteen have I been later eighting? But

544
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Speaker 6: you know, from beating Askarn the way he did, that's

545
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Speaker 6: not going of all time than beating me pe As

546
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Speaker 6: the way he did. I mean, he's probably the biggest

547
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 6: star in the UFC right now, which is crazy, you know.

548
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Speaker 6: I mean, if that doesn't Extreme Breakout and what about

549
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Speaker 6: also like Amanda Nunez.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she deserves consideration too. I think ultimately

551
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Speaker 4: when to come you know, I mean paral Cyborg when

552
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 4: that was last year, right right, And twenty eighteen obviously

553
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 4: was a big year for her, as was twenty seventeen,

554
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Speaker 4: as was twenty sixteen. But I do believe that when

555
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 4: it comes to Jorge Mosfietal and Israelat of Sonia for

556
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Speaker 4: our award show, for a lot of the award shows

557
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 4: out there, it's just going to be about finding at

558
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Speaker 4: least one trophy for both of those guys, whether you

559
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Speaker 4: give them Male Fighter of the Year, Breakout Star of

560
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Speaker 4: the Year, We'll find out a way, because we all

561
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Speaker 4: can't pick the same right, So that is one one

562
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Speaker 4: little caveat is that we can't all pick the same

563
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Speaker 4: guy for these winners. All right, Breakout Star of the

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Speaker 4: Year loose nominee list Edmund Schabazi and Pyotr Jan, Alexander Volkanowski,

565
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Speaker 4: Jorge Mosfidal and Henry Shudo. All right, Robert Fallis cornerman

566
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Speaker 4: slash coach of the Year. This is our way of

567
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Speaker 4: paying tribute to the late great Robert Fallis, who is

568
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 4: a tremendous head coach and chief corner in his own right.

569
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Speaker 5: Ken Flow.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the usual suspects are going to walk

571
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Speaker 4: away with this hardware. I mean, Mike Brown, I think

572
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: needs to be a part of this conversation annually. Safe

573
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Speaker 4: Saoud is going to get a lot of consideration this

574
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Speaker 4: year nineteen and five for Fortis MMA inside the Octagon

575
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Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen and Eugene Barman from City Kickboxing. You know,

576
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Speaker 4: I think is going to be neck and neck with

577
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Speaker 4: a lot of guys. When it comes to the Coach

578
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Speaker 4: of the Year, Ken Flow will start with you are

579
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Speaker 4: Robert Fallis Cornerman of the Year for twenty nineteen. Who's

580
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Speaker 4: the early lean go to?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: For me, I'm always looking for people that are doing

583
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Speaker 1: things a little bit differently and when they come from

584
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Speaker 1: a remote place like New Zealand. And for me, Eugene

585
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: Barman has done tremendous work. I also like his philosophy

586
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Speaker 1: of just really solidifying the fundamentals and understanding that it

587
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: is this long process of learning. Don't just give him

588
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: all these fancy tools that they don't know how to use.

589
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: He's really big into creating a system that takes time

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Speaker 1: to learn, that's really very much rooted in fundamentals, conceptual

591
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: framework of how to strike properly, doing it safely, doing

592
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: things in a different manner to me, that separates them

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Speaker 1: from the pack. He has done tremendous things. You don't

594
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Speaker 1: hear a whole lot about him, but when he's produced

595
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Speaker 1: two world champions and just a short few years, he's

596
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Speaker 1: doing something over there that's a little bit more special

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Speaker 1: than everybody else in my opinion. And the fact that

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Speaker 1: he's not recognized of having hundreds and hundreds of fighters

599
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: from this area, that's different to me, and that's cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ian, how do you argue against City Kickboxing as

601
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Speaker 4: Team of the Year and Eugene Barman as Coach of

602
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Speaker 4: the Year when produced two undisputed UFC World champions.

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Speaker 6: Well, and they also had Dan Hooker over there, if

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Speaker 6: I'm not being correct, he's also rising the ranks at

605
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Speaker 6: fifty five, so he really he's done a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he was my pick. I know we spoke earlier.

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Speaker 6: I also think Henry's to Judo's coach is the name

608
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Speaker 6: that should be mentioned. You know, he's got two double

609
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Speaker 6: champs and two different organizations. Obviously, he also, if I'm correct,

610
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Speaker 6: coaching the Korean Zombie. You know, he got some other

611
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 6: guys at the end of the year. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 6: all over Eugene Berriman in this one as well. I

613
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Speaker 6: just think what he's done to Kenny's point with a

614
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Speaker 6: small I don't know if you want to call a

615
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 6: smaller team, but in the matter of the year, he

616
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 6: has thrown two different divisions, one of them having a

617
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Speaker 6: goat at forty five. Then what Israel Alasanya has done.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's a megastar, so kind of hard to

619
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Speaker 6: really argue there. I agree with you with Mike Brown

620
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Speaker 6: as well. He always has to be in the conversation.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, American top teams a great stable.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, though I think those picks are pretty solid.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought up the captain Eric Albertasin. He

624
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 4: does not get any credit in our awards show for

625
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: the pit Bull Brothers, but certainly gets a nomination for

626
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Speaker 4: Coach of the Year. He's absolutely outstanding. I think Santino,

627
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: DeFranco and Eddie Cha the other guys in the corner

628
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 4: of the Korean zombie. Actually, I don't think Santino was there.

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Speaker 4: But there are a lot of great coaches. This is

630
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: a tricky category. Loose nominations are going to be Mike Brown,

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Speaker 4: Eugene Bearman, Safe sud Duke Rufus, Eric Alberastin, and Trevor

632
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Speaker 4: Whitman for our twenty nineteen Robert fallas Coach of the Year,

633
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Speaker 4: Trevor Whipman's My broadcast party. Gotta throw Trevor there, all right, upset.

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Speaker 5: Of the year.

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Speaker 4: So Joe Osborne told us on the Anak and floor

636
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Speaker 4: In podcast last week that underdogs in the UFC hit

637
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 4: at a thirty six percent clip overall in twenty nineteen.

638
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: That was higher than the NBA that was thirty one percent,

639
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: the NFL thirty three point six percent. Those are twenty

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Speaker 4: eighteen numbers, and also higher than the UFC total of underdogs,

641
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Speaker 4: which was thirty four and a half percent in two

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00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: thousand eighteen. That being said, I didn't find that many

643
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Speaker 4: huge betting underdogs and that cashed in the plus six

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Speaker 4: point fifty range like Kama Worthy. Kama Worthy, if you

645
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Speaker 4: don't know, shortest of notice against not just a former

646
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Speaker 4: training partner, but his guy, his dude, his friend, Devonte

647
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Speaker 4: Smith plus six point fifty statistically from a betting perspective,

648
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Speaker 4: biggest betting underdog of the year for me, He's the

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Speaker 4: going away winner of Upset of the Year. I know

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Speaker 4: I'm sort of getting ahead of the award show in

651
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Speaker 4: two weeks, but who else are we even talking about

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Speaker 4: ian for Upset of the Year in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 6: Well, I have a couple of interesting ones because it's

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Speaker 6: one that we actually picked on the show, and they

655
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Speaker 6: were pretty heavy underdogs. Anthony Pennis over Stephen wonder Boy Thompson.

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Speaker 6: Anthony Pennis I believe was plus four to ten when

657
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Speaker 6: he landed that knockout. I also picked him against Kenny,

658
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Speaker 6: which lucky on that one. I don't know if you

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Speaker 6: want to consider this one all over. Darren till Masvidal

660
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Speaker 6: was a big underdog in that fight, not obviously Kamma

661
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Speaker 6: worthy wise, but I'm, you know, trying to really find

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Speaker 6: some of these heavy duty underdogs, and I think I

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Speaker 6: thought it worthy Tennis might have been one of the

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Speaker 6: bigger ones on the odd sheet, which is kind of interesting.

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Speaker 6: So those were two other ones I was able to

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Speaker 6: potentially throw out there.

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow. That's good stuff, by the way. I yeah,

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Speaker 4: Mosfidal versus till I have written down certainly Anthony showtime.

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Speaker 4: Pettis against Stephen wonder Boy Thompson was a big underdog.

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Speaker 4: Kama Worthy out of Pittsburgh, PA. Make it his UFC

671
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Speaker 4: debut twenty to one to win that fight by knockout

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Speaker 4: plus six point fifty. And he said to us when

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Speaker 4: we sat down with him that Thursday that the familiarity

674
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Speaker 4: of fighting Devontae Smith might balance out the jitters. He

675
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Speaker 4: was ready to go right out of the shoot. Anything

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Speaker 4: on upsete of the year that we're missing Kamma Worthy.

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Speaker 4: You think Pettis Mosfidal?

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Speaker 5: What else you know? Pettis.

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Speaker 1: Pettis against wonder Boy is the one that really stands

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Speaker 1: out to me. You know, the fact that he was

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Speaker 1: losing that fight, the fact that he was going against

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Speaker 1: one of the best strikers in UFC history, and the

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Speaker 1: fashion in which he pulled it off, I thought was

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Speaker 1: was tremendous. The other one that might come to mind

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Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, what what were the

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Speaker 1: odds for Suhudo and Dila shaw I just wrote down

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Speaker 1: Sahudo against either guy right, I think they were close.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so Hudo versus Dila Shaw, he had to

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Speaker 1: close as the dog, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would think.

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Speaker 6: I'll give you the odds on that if you won,

692
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Speaker 6: was plus one thirty. Crazy And again he was also

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Speaker 6: plus one thirty believe it or not a closing Okay, So.

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Speaker 5: Maybe that the odds might not display it. But TJ.

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Speaker 1: Dillashaw was a guy who very few people thought would lose.

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Speaker 1: They they thought he was the guy to beat Demetrius

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Speaker 1: Johnson all these things.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I think that that's worthy of it.

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Speaker 1: Not crazy looking back on it, but you know that

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Speaker 1: was one of them, all right.

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Speaker 4: So Upset of the Year nominees will be Comma worthy.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Showtime Pettis, Jorge Mosfital against Darren Till and Henry

703
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Speaker 4: Shudo against TJ. Dilashaw. All right, Knockout of the Year

704
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Speaker 4: man a lot of competition. Certainly one of the three

705
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Speaker 4: of us is going to give it to whole or

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Speaker 4: Amos Fedal for the fastest knockout in UFC history against

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Speaker 4: Ben Askren, Anthony Showtime Pettis against Steven wonder Boy Thompson.

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Speaker 4: Given the main event stakes, the welterweight division. The whole

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Speaker 4: backdrop of that fight certainly a nomination for Showtime. You

710
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: had Valentina Chepchenko against Jessica I Onrage against Nama Unis

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Speaker 4: with the slam. Nico Price had two knockout of the

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Speaker 4: years for My Money against James Vick and Tim Means

713
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Speaker 4: Kevin Lee against Gregor Gillespie, on and on we go.

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Speaker 4: Ian Parker will start with you. What am I missing?

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Speaker 6: Alexander Rakich against Jim Nanua. That kick from hell was

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Speaker 6: twenty nineteen. I think it was. That kick absolutely has

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Speaker 6: to be put into the category. But all the ones

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Speaker 6: you just mentioned what one hundred percent should be whose

719
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Speaker 6: nominations as well? That was the only one I saw

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Speaker 6: that might have been missing. And rosenstrike against Overing if

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Speaker 6: you want to consider that, even though the ending was

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Speaker 6: a little controversial there. Yeah, you know, those were the

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Speaker 6: only two that I could think of that Warden mentioned

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Speaker 6: in your in your list.

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Speaker 1: Right there, guys, guys, come on, Witaker getting knocked out

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Speaker 1: by Adasanyat spectacular.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was slick as hell.

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Speaker 1: Yeh, I mean, listen, this year was pretty crazy in

729
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Speaker 1: regards to knockouts. We had a lot of dramatic ones

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Speaker 1: in some big fights, crazy crazy fights overall. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you guys pretty much nailed at all.

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Speaker 1: The Whittaker Autos Sonya knockout I think is the only

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Speaker 1: one we forgot really.

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Speaker 5: That's so that's good stuff.

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Speaker 4: And we're certainly going to nominate Israelat of Sonia for

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Speaker 4: Knockout of the Year and Rockets Johnny Walker against Misha Serkrnov,

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Speaker 4: Valentina Chefchanko, Jessica Rage, Nico Price times two. And what

738
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Speaker 4: was interesting when we did this for the UFC for

739
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Speaker 4: for a year end awards show that I think will

740
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Speaker 4: be on UFC Fight Pass, you know, Biz Pink Chows,

741
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Speaker 4: Moss Feed all against Till not against Ascrip, which I

742
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Speaker 4: think there is a strong argument to be made that

743
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Speaker 4: that was a better knockout in certain respects right the road,

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00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: the stakes, the odds, everything else. So a lot of

745
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Speaker 4: competition for Knockout of the Year, Submission of the Year,

746
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Speaker 4: Ken Flow, I would defer to you on that. I

747
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: think Bryce Mitchell turns in a twister in the month

748
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Speaker 4: of December that's gonna win him a lot of trophies.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you consider steaks if you do

750
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Speaker 4: have even Hermongo medow against Dustin Pourier comes to mind

751
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Speaker 4: for me. It just depends on how you want to

752
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 4: approach the category. For me, I've seen a handful of twisters.

753
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Speaker 4: The way Bryce Mitchell did that five feet in front

754
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Speaker 4: of my face, He's getting the trophy for me in

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Speaker 4: two weeks.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, those are two of the definite leading candidates.

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Speaker 1: The other one that I would slip in there with

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Speaker 1: Dami and Maya's performance against Lyman Good for anyone who

759
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Speaker 1: is out there looking at mixed martial arts and basically

760
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Speaker 1: going to judge someone based on how they look, and

761
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Speaker 1: Lyman Good looks like, you know, just a specimen of

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Speaker 1: a human being.

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Speaker 5: And you see Damian Maya out there with his dad bod.

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Speaker 1: That's what the martial arts was all about, and you

765
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: can't underestimate anybody. He went out there, ran across the octagon,

766
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Speaker 1: jumped on his back, submitted with the rear naked choke.

767
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Speaker 1: I think it was maybe from the standing position. I

768
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Speaker 1: don't know if they went back, but it was just

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Speaker 1: tremendous that that's the other one that I would just

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Speaker 1: throw in there. But it's gonna be hard to beat

771
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Speaker 1: Bryce Mitchell.

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Speaker 4: What certainly is Ian Parker Fight of the Year.

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Speaker 6: I feel like John I got one more for submission there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, Sorry, So Kenny, you're gonna laugh at

775
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Speaker 6: this one. But John and I I mentioned this John earlier.

776
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 6: Paul Craig the bared you with that last second triangle.

777
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Speaker 6: He was being dominated that entire fight. I think even

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Speaker 6: the first two rounds might have been ten eighths on him,

779
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Speaker 6: and with one second left to get a triangle and

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Speaker 6: get the tap. I think that deserves a loose domination.

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Speaker 6: What do you guys think?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we will give Paul Bard you Craig

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Speaker 4: a nomination for Submission of the Year. We're gonna quickly

784
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Speaker 4: move through the rest and not steal all the thunder

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Speaker 4: of the fifth Annual af Awards coming up Monday, January sixth,

786
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Speaker 4: live on YouTube and on the Anakin Flooring podcast page

787
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Speaker 4: on iTunes. Fight of the Year Kelvin gaslaman Israel lot

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Speaker 4: of Soigni at UFC two thirty six. I feel like

789
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Speaker 4: it's top five for me all time. You had Brian

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Speaker 4: Barberina and Vicente Luke earlier in the year, Donald Cowboys

791
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 4: Seroni against Alex and Hernandez, Lawler and Astron went back

792
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: and fourth Joel Romero against Paolo Costa certainly worthy in

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Speaker 4: this discussion. Platinum Mike Perry against Alex cowboy O Lavera.

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Speaker 4: Ian am I leaving anything out any early lean for

795
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Speaker 4: you on Fight of the Year for twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 6: The only other one maybe Mike Perry versus Vincente Luk

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Speaker 6: as well, you know, anything with Mike Terry Vincen Luke

798
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Speaker 6: guess at this point, But no, if you ever give

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Speaker 6: me the opportunity to pick one, I don't know how

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Speaker 6: you don't pick Anasania versus Kelvin Gaslo With the implications

801
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 6: of that site and just the way it went, it

802
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 6: was just that's what you look for in a potential

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Speaker 6: title fight or can number one contender fight.

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Speaker 7: So that was the one I was leaning on.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you guys on that.

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Speaker 1: But gentlemen, how can we forget about another fight that

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00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: happened that night between Max Holloway and Dustin Laurier.

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Speaker 5: That's the crazy thing is that whole card was just ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Because you saw Pory and Holloway, you go, it can't

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Speaker 1: get better than that, right, I mean, everyone was just

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Speaker 1: trying to catch their breath and.

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Speaker 5: Then Atasanya Gaslam just go right at.

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Speaker 1: It and you forget that that fight was also that night,

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Speaker 1: another potential fight of the year on the very same

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Speaker 1: night with the belt on the line. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean that that whole night was just ridiculous. But Ada, Sonya,

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Speaker 1: Gastola John, I agree with you as far as title fights, man,

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Speaker 1: top three for sure. I mean you have Rory McDonald

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Speaker 1: and Robbie Lawler up there. Uh you have Adasnia and

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Speaker 1: gastolom in that top three. I really it was that

821
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Speaker 1: good of a fight, man.

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Speaker 4: My favorite fight in UFC history is actually the rematch

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Speaker 4: between Jose Aldo and Chad Mendes.

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Speaker 5: Oh great one, absolutely one.

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Speaker 4: It was exactly one week after you got married.

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Speaker 5: I was watching it.

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Speaker 1: I was literally I had reservations and I'm watching it

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Speaker 1: in the hotel lobby because i had wi FI. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: hold on, this fight is way too damn good. It

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Speaker 1: was the rematch in Brazil, be right, it was in Brazil.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that fight was ridiculous and absolutely one of the

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Speaker 1: best title fight.

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Speaker 5: That's that's the top three right there. All right.

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Speaker 4: So Fight of the Year nominees for twenty nineteen Holloway, Pourier,

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Speaker 4: Gasolam out of Sonya, Barberina, Luke Romerosta, Perry Cowboy, Olivera

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Speaker 4: and Perry Luke. All right, I'm gonna give you each

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Speaker 4: one of these categories, because Ray Longo is not a

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Speaker 4: man who likes to wait on Hold our Adam Snackskeller

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Speaker 4: Male Fighter of the Year. If you don't know snack Skeller,

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00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: he was a valued friend of both Man and Kenny's

842
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: who passed away. He was a valued member of the

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00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: UFC's production team, so we honor him on this program

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Speaker 4: every year. Our Adam Snackskeller Male Fighter of the Year.

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Speaker 4: Kenny feels like a two man race with at Asania

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Speaker 4: and Masfidal. I mean, normally this conversation comes down to

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00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 4: the undisputed UFC champions, Kamara, Usman, a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: You could consider any front runner for you for twenty

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Speaker 4: nineteen Male Fighter of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Man, it really it's a race between both of those men.

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Speaker 1: For me, Masvidal, you look at what he's done this

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Speaker 1: year and the way that he's done. It doesn't get

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00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: any better than that, really. But then Adasanya being the champion,

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00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: and then you know, beating Whitaker in the way that

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Speaker 1: he did that classic against Gastel, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: he's been undefeated, the fact that you know, he's done

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00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: amazing things in the last two years and now really

858
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: took it up and yet another notch this year, and

859
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: as a legitimate superstar in the UFC, it's hard to

860
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: go against one of those guys. I mean right now,

861
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: I'd be leaning towards Adasania all right and Ian.

862
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 4: In terms of Female Fighter of the Year, I'd like

863
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: to throw out Shongwai Lee for breaking through and becoming

864
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: China's first undisputed UFC champion, Amanda Nunez, Valentina Chefchenko, anybody

865
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 4: else I'm forgetting for Female Fighter of the Year, I

866
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 4: don't think so.

867
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 6: I think it's kind of hard anyone other than that.

868
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 6: I think you named all three. Those are the three,

869
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 6: and I think a man is going to lead the

870
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 6: way there.

871
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: All right, Ian, Before we let you go, We've had

872
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 4: a category in the past called Hottest Male Fighter. Okay,

873
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: and this is a some people get a little bit offended.

874
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: It's a looks competition. We're trying to come up with

875
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: the most attractive male fighter. We don't do this for women.

876
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: I think for obvious reasons. I gave it to Tyron

877
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: Woodley a few years ago. I think he's a very

878
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 4: attractive fan. Does does he know he can't vote for

879
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: me because I'm retired.

880
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 6: I was just gonna ask, I was just gonna ask

881
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 6: our commentations and retirees involved in there.

882
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 5: Yeah.

883
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: No, So Kenny, obviously, that's the first question our listeners ask.

884
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 4: I mean, how could you not? I mean, maybe we'll

885
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 4: name it the Kenny Florian Hottest Male Fighter Award, But anyway,

886
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 4: let us know at Annik Florian pot if you're either offended,

887
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 4: if you like the category, or if you have a nominee,

888
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 4: and we will let you know two weeks from today

889
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 4: who is our twenty nineteen award winner for Hottest Male Fighter.

890
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: Those aft puss will be sent in the mail, by

891
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: the way, to all the winners. All right, Ian Parker,

892
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 4: great stuff, all year long, main event challenge might get

893
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 4: a few tweaks next year. But the plan right now,

894
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: I mean I got to talk to Kenny offline, but

895
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 4: the plan right now is to bring you back as

896
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: the guy. And you know, I think you've you've certainly

897
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 4: earned your seat.

898
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 6: I appreciate that, and I'd love to be back. And uh,

899
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 6: it's a great competition. Came down to literally a five

900
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 6: o'clock in the morning situation, which, yeah, you know, it

901
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 6: would have been cooler for a different card to end

902
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 6: it on the year, but it was awesome. It was

903
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 6: an honor. Kenny, you're the man, John, I appreciate it, TJ.

904
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: Eh.

905
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 4: Other than that, h Ian Parker, great stuff.

906
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: But the duck or the dick?

907
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 6: Sorry, I make one comment all year, I get it.

908
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 6: I'm a dead god. No, I'm just kidding, teacher. I

909
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 6: love you your production, TJ. I will tell you your

910
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 6: quality amazing. You're the man, And I appreciate of all

911
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 6: the ducks downs, at least gave me one that wasn't

912
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 6: too weird. It was a pretty quality, uh duck situation there,

913
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 6: So I appreciate that.

914
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 4: Can we hang out now, yeah, TJ, you call the shots.

915
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 5: You can hang out all right?

916
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 6: Bye?

917
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 4: Oh man, it's just crazy like my twin brother really

918
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 4: thinks Ian sounds like a duck.

919
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 5: All right.

920
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,160
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941
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Speaker 4: Podcast, and the Great Ray Longo joins us now for

942
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943
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Speaker 4: don't miss a beat they don't miss a week. Good morning.

945
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 7: It's all about work ethics, all about the work ethic.

946
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 7: And I heard you were a guest on Unfiltered. How

947
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 7: did how did that go for you?

948
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: Well, I I told Matt Sarah's audience, like I told

949
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 4: this audience that he's out of his skull piece, you

950
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 4: know that he's completely out of his mind.

951
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 5: But no, it was good.

952
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 4: We obviously we did that. We did that show together

953
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: and then uh, two days later they called me on

954
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: on the UFC Unfiltered podcast, so uh, it's good.

955
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 7: To Yeah, I'm so glad. I'm so glad you got

956
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 7: to see him up close and personal. So you know

957
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 7: what I deal with on it literally a daily basis.

958
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 7: That's what I have to deal with. So I'm glad.

959
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 4: I and I well and I we even talked about

960
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: it with Jimmy Norton that it's like I don't have

961
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: the dosage of Matt Sarah that jim does, right, so

962
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: for me, I can you know small though, No, I'm

963
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: just kidding. We all love Maddie. What was interesting though,

964
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 4: is the second question he asked me. And I can

965
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 4: tell Ken Flow didn't listen to the interview, which is fine.

966
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: Because you've got better things to do with your life.

967
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 4: But the second question he asked me, he's like, what's

968
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 4: up with can flow?

969
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 7: You know?

970
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 5: So we did about guys.

971
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: We did about one hundred and eighty seconds on Kenny

972
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 4: Florian and his television future and everything else. So that

973
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 4: was good for the UFC listeners. Yeah, So so Ray,

974
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: what's going on man?

975
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 5: What's that? So?

976
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 4: I mean, do you take some time off? I mean,

977
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: Jim closed it all this week? What's your holiday week?

978
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 7: Calld uh holiday week. I'm in the gym right now,

979
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 7: so we're open today. Tomorrow obviously Christmas Eve we're closed,

980
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 7: but I come in to work out with a couple

981
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 7: of people early, not early in the morning, but mid morning,

982
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 7: and then Christmas will close. Nobody's coming in and then

983
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 7: Thursday we're back to the grind. We got a big February.

984
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 7: Morob just got booked with his fight. Yeah, who's he

985
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 7: fer fifteenth? We have another kid nas Nas fighting February first,

986
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 7: and about six guys on the Ring of Combats February

987
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 7: twenty third. So we're jumping off getting off to a

988
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 7: really busy year. So uh yeah, no, no, no, rest.

989
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 7: I feel pretty good though, So I'm happy about that,

990
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 7: and we're gonna keep this train running.

991
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 4: John right in the two thousand telling you well, Morob,

992
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 4: he's fighting Casey Kenny, who is the fourteenth ranked bandon

993
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: wait in the UFC. That's a big fight.

994
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 7: That's a huge fight. He's really super stoked for that fight. Yeah,

995
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 7: you know, I just love the way he just even

996
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 7: looked at bro. What do you think marab very tough.

997
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 7: He's gonna come forward, very goona make good fight. Good fight,

998
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 7: gonna be very It's just, you know, there's no apprehension.

999
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 7: He's just all about the competition and going out and

1000
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 7: doing his best. He's really got such a great perspective

1001
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 7: on fighting and on life. It's uh, you know, I

1002
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 7: said it a while ago. I'll say it again. I

1003
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 7: really learned a lot from him just listening to him talk,

1004
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 7: and you know, sometimes if I'm getting out of control,

1005
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 7: you know, he's just he's got a way of saying,

1006
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 7: there's nothing you could do. But the why he get crazy,

1007
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 7: you know, I mean, but he's just he's a good dude.

1008
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 7: But yeah, I'm assuming that's gonna be a frickin bond

1009
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 7: burner in a great fight.

1010
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 4: Oh Man, that's a great fight. So so what about

1011
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: Chris Wyman. Have you had any conversations with him? I

1012
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 4: know it wasn't all that long ago. We were in

1013
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 4: Boston and October, but when you look at him into

1014
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: twenty twenty and beyond, I mean, what's your best guess

1015
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: as to what his future holds.

1016
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna be honest with me.

1017
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 7: I'm really not sure. I mean, I've been working out

1018
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 7: with him every day and I'm not sure which way

1019
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 7: he's going with the two o five and a one

1020
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 7: eighty five.

1021
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 6: I just.

1022
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 7: You know, I've been, I have been. Uh, he has

1023
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 7: been hitting every day, and you know he is, he

1024
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 7: is focused, but I'm really not sure which way he's going.

1025
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: See, and I don't know if it's like do you

1026
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 4: get a vote? But like when Paul Felder was considering

1027
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 4: moving up to welter waite, he reached out to some

1028
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: of us and asked us what division we thought he

1029
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: should proceed in, and I was adamant that it should

1030
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: be welterweight. If you know me, you know, I don't

1031
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: you know, I want to see guys cut extra weight

1032
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 4: and knowing how hard it is for him, and I

1033
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 4: proved to probably give him the wrong answer, right, because

1034
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 4: he's gone on to get a main event in the

1035
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 4: lightweight division. It's certainly the division in which he can

1036
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: chase a UFC title. I just didn't want him cutting

1037
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 4: the weight, Like will Chris ask you, like what you

1038
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: think he should do?

1039
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 7: Oh you no, No, I think you know, like even

1040
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 7: when he did two five. No, we're we're we talk

1041
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 7: about it, but we have I mean the last couple

1042
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 7: of weeks, like maybe because of the holidays and everybody's

1043
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 7: been running running around, maybe, but we just haven't sat

1044
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 7: down and really had like a you know which way

1045
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 7: he was going, you know what I mean. So yeah,

1046
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 7: I still think he's got to get cleared on a

1047
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 7: couple of things and and then we'll take it from there.

1048
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 7: But uh, I'm not I'm not even joking around. I'm

1049
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 7: not even sure you.

1050
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 4: Know, no, I'm sure. I just think it's, uh, it's

1051
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: interesting to see what because I still would advocate two

1052
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 4: o five, but that doesn't necessarily put him on a

1053
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 4: championship trajectory the way. Maybe one win at middleweight. Mike,

1054
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: all right, before we let you go, did you wake

1055
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 4: up early to watch Frankie Edgar on the Stah.

1056
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did, I actually did. I was that was

1057
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 7: a tough one. And I think Frankie's another guy, man,

1058
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 7: you know, I'm uh, he has another He's got nothing

1059
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 7: to prove in this sport. Anybody who knows that guy,

1060
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 7: he knows he's a competitive He's fought the best of

1061
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 7: the best. He's fought in a couple of weight divisions.

1062
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 6: Uh.

1063
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 7: You know, we were talking about this. I talked about

1064
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 7: what Chris last night is why he made that decision

1065
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 7: to go fight in South Korea as opposed to just

1066
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 7: wait and fighting San Haagan and trying out you know,

1067
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 7: the new weight at thirty five. I'm not I was

1068
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 7: just unsure that but you know, I was hoping it

1069
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 7: worked out for him, but it didn't. And uh, that

1070
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 7: was that was that was a rough one, you know,

1071
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 7: but I would have liked to have seen him at

1072
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 7: thirty five. I just don't know where what that fight

1073
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 7: got him, you know. And it was only a month

1074
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 7: away for the other fight. So you know, Chris was

1075
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 7: saying like he's a company guy and they needed a guy,

1076
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 7: and he just jumped in there with such cool you know.

1077
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 7: If that's the case, but you know he's I think

1078
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 7: he's got to pick and choose, you know, who he's

1079
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 7: fighting at this point.

1080
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: Well, the company had options, right, I mean, Calvin Cater

1081
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: threw his name into the hat it even though Cater

1082
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 4: isn't one hundred percent healthy and might have to go

1083
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: under the knife in his own right. You know, I

1084
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: think from a Vegas perspective, from an oddsmaker's perspective, that

1085
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: fight might have actually been closer on paper. You know,

1086
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: they went with Frankie for more reasons than one. I

1087
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 4: guess Kenny and I didn't see the huge risk. Maybe

1088
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 4: that you didn't. I'll let Kenny chime in here, obviously,

1089
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 4: but I guess I just felt like, you know, if

1090
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 4: you're getting three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to show,

1091
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 4: right in theory, you can maybe still have the Sandhagen

1092
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 4: fight if you look at it as just a sparring sets,

1093
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: a glorified sparring session that's just really far away. How

1094
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 4: it doesn't hurt his bantam weight contention? Andy, I just

1095
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 4: I don't know that it hurts him that much, and

1096
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: it certainly doesn't hurt the bank account, you know, No, no.

1097
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 7: It doesn't hurt the bank account, and that's fine, but

1098
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 7: it hurts the physical account. That's the problem. I think

1099
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 7: he took a couple of bad shots in that fight.

1100
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 7: And the older you get me, you're not shrugging that

1101
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 7: off like you're twenty five years old anymore. You could

1102
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 7: you could see that was it was almost a replay

1103
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 7: of the main it fight. But his brain was telling

1104
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 7: them what to do. His body just couldn't pull it off.

1105
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 7: That's what I was looking at. And you know, the

1106
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 7: older you get, as a lighter guy, that shit becomes

1107
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 7: rougher and rougher. You know, he is thirty eight and

1108
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 7: for a little guy, I think that's that's old. I

1109
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 7: just would have liked to have seen him, you know,

1110
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 7: I just wanted to see what would have happened at

1111
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 7: thirty five, to see how he would have did. And

1112
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 7: I think, you know, he's not the biggest guy around,

1113
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 7: and you could still see had the speed. So I

1114
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 7: don't know that was, you know, that was. He's a

1115
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 7: big puncher the Korean zombies, so no doubt. Yeah, Kenny,

1116
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 7: what was your thought on that?

1117
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1118
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: You know, I think that as far as taking the fight,

1119
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: he had nothing to lose because he knew he was

1120
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: gonna go down to excuse me, one hundred and thirty

1121
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: five pounds. But I agree with you on the physical account.

1122
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: As far as taking on a big, heavy handed fighter

1123
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: in Korean Zombie, he did have something to lose in

1124
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: that regard. And you know, people always say, well, Frankie's

1125
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: not you know, he's only been knocked up by Ortega.

1126
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 5: Yes, that's true, but he has had a lot of fights.

1127
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: He has what one of the most, if not the

1128
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: most amount of octagon time, Yes, hours upon hours. So

1129
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: just because you're not getting knocked out doesn't mean your

1130
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: body isn't taking damage. And you talk about, you know,

1131
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 1: as far as the training and all that stuff. So yeah,

1132
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: it was a tough one.

1133
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 5: Ray. You know, I think that, you know, a lot

1134
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 5: of times you take certain risks, especially when money's getting thrown.

1135
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you feel like, oh, you know, I can

1136
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: go in and make you know, over a million dollars

1137
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: in you know, a month time.

1138
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,959
Speaker 5: That that's that's pretty attractive for a lot of guys.

1139
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: And yes, you know, Frankie, Frankie is one of those

1140
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: guys that deserves all that money because of what he's

1141
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: accomplished in this sport. But honey, it's it's it's hard

1142
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 1: to see a guy like a Frankie Edgar get hurt

1143
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: like that at this stage of his career, and you

1144
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: know he's definitely at the end of it. But you know,

1145
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: in Frankie's mind, with all of his pride, I know

1146
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: he's chasing that belt at one hundred and thirty five pounds,

1147
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: and you know what, he just might get it.

1148
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 5: I just hope that he takes that safe route to

1149
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 5: that belt.

1150
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1151
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 7: No, that was really like kind of my point. Just

1152
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 7: you know, like again, nobody knows anybody's money situation, and

1153
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 7: you're right, to make a million dollars in a couple

1154
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 7: of fights is good money. But you know, like again,

1155
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 7: I'm just you know what it is. I think as

1156
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 7: I get older, I'm being more trying to be more

1157
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 7: protective because I realize how important health is over money,

1158
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 7: and it really is. I mean, it's just like it's

1159
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 7: a cliche, but I there's guys that lose their health

1160
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 7: that would sacrifice any amount of money that they had,

1161
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 7: and these are millionaires that we give it all just

1162
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 7: to be healthy again. And that That's where I'm kind

1163
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 7: of coming from. And sometimes you don't see it when

1164
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 7: you're in your thirties, you hear it, but like, I

1165
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 7: don't know, I'm at that point now where that's like

1166
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 7: my number one priority. And again it's two totally different things.

1167
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 7: But you know, this is a vicious sport man. It

1168
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 7: is unforgiving and the damage you really have to be

1169
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 7: careful about. And look, I deal with it over here too,

1170
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So it's, uh, you can't obviously,

1171
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 7: you can't make these guys do anything they don't want

1172
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 7: to do. But I just thought he had a nice

1173
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 7: fight with San Haagen. It was a month away. Unless

1174
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 7: they threw them like that extra money to get you know,

1175
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 7: you would go to North South South Korea. Was that's

1176
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 7: not a you know, it wasn't like he was going

1177
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 7: to vermonta fight, you know, So that was that was

1178
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 7: against them too, you know, there was all I think

1179
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 7: there was just a lot against them against an up

1180
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 7: and coming guy who brew throws hard, and uh, I

1181
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 7: don't know, I mean, I wish it would have worked

1182
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 7: out for him because everybody loves Frankie and it's just, uh,

1183
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 7: I don't know, I mean, an extra couple of hundred

1184
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 7: thousand at the end of the day, it sounds like

1185
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 7: a lot of money, but if you know, it might not.

1186
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 5: Be you know, And can I say this, Frankie Edgar,

1187
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 5: don't you cut your hair for anybody? I like the extro,

1188
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 5: I like the extra lettuce.

1189
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was Look, that's awesome thing to the size

1190
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 7: difference looked huge in there. Like I think Frankie was

1191
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 7: already preparing for thirty five and he was on his

1192
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 7: way down and you know, probably staying low. So I

1193
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 7: think he looked even smaller. And I don't know if

1194
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 7: that was just me or I might be imagining that,

1195
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 7: but it's just I think he was. You know, he

1196
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 7: was a month away, he was probably watching his diety.

1197
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 7: Just looked like he gave up a lot in that fight.

1198
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 7: As far as size, also, I.

1199
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: Got to say, I remember the first time I met

1200
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: Korean Zombie. I was probably around one hundred and eighty

1201
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: pounds and I was face to face with Korean Zombie.

1202
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: He probably had maybe an inch on me as far

1203
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: as height, and he looked wider than me. I couldn't

1204
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: believe that he makes one hundred and forty five pounds.

1205
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: He looked massive. I mean, I had a brutal cut

1206
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 1: down one hundred and forty five pounds. But the Korean

1207
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 1: Zombie is very big for his division, There's no doubt

1208
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: about it. And Frankie is probably a legit thirty five.

1209
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, so yeah, I agree with.

1210
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 7: Out of doubt. And that's the beauty of Frankie. Look

1211
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 7: at all he's accomplished at fifty five, you know, and

1212
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 7: then the fights he's I mean, the guy is incredible,

1213
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 7: but you know it just I just hope he makes

1214
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 7: the right decisions because we know he's a warrior. We

1215
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 7: know that guy loves to compete. And again, his speed

1216
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 7: looked good, you know, he you know, he ran into

1217
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 7: a couple of counters that you know, you know that

1218
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 7: didn't work out for him, but I mean you could

1219
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 7: still see he was he was booking, you know. So

1220
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 7: you know, he's got a He's got a tough room

1221
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 7: over there too, He's but Mark's got a lot of

1222
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 7: talented guys, so the sparing sessions have to be brutal too,

1223
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 7: So I think all of that has to be taken

1224
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 7: into consideration.

1225
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: Well, uh, we just want to let you go and

1226
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: wish you merry Christmas to you and the entire Longo family.

1227
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 4: To all the girls and all your dependents out there

1228
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 4: and everything else. Buddy, we uh, we appreciate having you along.

1229
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 4: And uh, we're taken next week off, so the check

1230
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: is in the mail, as they say, and uh, happy

1231
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: talk about it.

1232
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I want to thank you guys from the

1233
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 7: bottom of my heart. I love to both he is.

1234
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 7: I hope you have a healthy, happy holidays with your

1235
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 7: families and merry Christmas of both years. And let's let's

1236
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 7: let's come out of two thousand. Let's go into twenty

1237
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 7: twenty swinging for defences. Kenny, let's go, let's do it.

1238
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 4: I was actually thinking about a lazy twenty twenty and

1239
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 4: then hitting real hard in twenty twenty one.

1240
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 7: I'm trying to be you know, hey, let's so's let

1241
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 7: let's come out swing because I might not be here

1242
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 7: in twenty one. So let's let's can we get through

1243
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 7: twenty twenty.

1244
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: First stop we too, Like parenting is just so fucking hard.

1245
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: Like if you're if.

1246
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 7: You're not out there, absolutely brutal.

1247
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 4: You know, That's all I'm gonna say.

1248
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 7: You know, absolutely brutal. I emphasize you. Thank God, I'm

1249
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 7: past that now. But I don't know if It gets

1250
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 7: much easier when your kids get older, because you know

1251
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 7: they you know, you know they're saying little kids, little problems,

1252
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 7: big kids, big problems. It's right, it's it's always something.

1253
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 7: It's always something. You'll never you'll never have a good

1254
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 7: night's sleep again. You're always going to be worrying about something.

1255
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 5: Each kid's like a five round war, John.

1256
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is all right, And I'm not that mentally

1257
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 4: or physically tough to begin with. It's a real fucking struggle.

1258
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 7: No, yeah, listen, honestly, nothing I mean to do it right.

1259
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 7: Nothing is tough and than parenting your kids.

1260
00:58:59,120 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 5: Nothing.

1261
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, buddy, We'll have a great week,

1262
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 4: have a happy holiday, and we'll talk to you two

1263
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 4: weeks from today.

1264
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 7: Okay, have a happy New Year too.

1265
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 5: If I don't talk to you, thank you, buddy.

1266
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 7: You two Ry Christmas, Yeah, Merry Christmas. Guys. Take it easy.

1267
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 5: There.

1268
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 4: He is Raymond Peter Longo every week here on the

1269
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 4: edicin Floran podcast. I think it's tough, Kenny, these fighters,

1270
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 4: and I'll sort of close on this late in career,

1271
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 4: right when the money traditionally is as good as it's

1272
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: ever been. Right for Michael Bisping. Hey, if I just

1273
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 4: make this quick turn, and if I just make weight

1274
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 4: in China against Kelvin Gaslam, I can bring my family,

1275
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 4: you know, half a million bucks or whatever it is.

1276
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 4: And I just think late in career, when the money's

1277
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 4: good and you have dependents and your kids are getting older,

1278
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 4: you know, you sit down with your wife and you say, look,

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Speaker 4: I make this fight in Korea. You know, I was

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Speaker 4: scheduled to fight this guy once before. You know, I'll

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Speaker 4: come home with four hundred K and maybe I can

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Speaker 4: fight Corey a month later.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's like, I just I don't know. I just I

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Speaker 4: feel for these fighters, especially the ones who have big

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Speaker 4: paydays late in career. It's like you want to right

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Speaker 4: while the iron is still hot.

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Speaker 1: Well, well that's it, right, I mean, you have these opportunities.

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Speaker 1: These are things that passed you by early on your career.

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Speaker 1: You're being offered these things where you can make a

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Speaker 1: ton of money and a short amount of time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to turn those things down, especially when you

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Speaker 1: know those opportunities don't come around all the time.

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Speaker 5: You only have a certain amount of time to compete

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Speaker 5: at the highest level.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to fault Frankie for taking that,

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Speaker 1: but you know, this is a guy who really has

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Speaker 1: done it all already.

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Speaker 5: I hope he gets paid a ton more money.

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Speaker 1: It's just, you know, these likable guys like FRANKI Edgar,

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Speaker 1: these legends that have been around you just don't like

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Speaker 1: seeing get hurt. So I think that's more than where

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Speaker 1: we're coming from than anything else. But Frankie will be back.

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Speaker 1: He'll be tougher that ever, and you know we always

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Speaker 1: wish him the best. And and you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: tough thing for any professional fighter. That's what you're working

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Speaker 1: your whole life towards, and you're getting offered that money.

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Speaker 5: How do you say no? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean, and this is not any grand proclamation about

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Speaker 4: Frankie Edgar and whether or not he can get back

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Speaker 4: on a championship course at Banham Wait in the UFC,

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Speaker 4: because that is entirely possible. I just know for you, right,

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Speaker 4: you're back intervened obviously, but for you largely, if you

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Speaker 4: were not gonna be fighting for titles, you weren't gonna

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Speaker 4: stick around, you know, So all right, that's gonna do

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Speaker 4: it for this week, and that is gonna do it

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Speaker 4: for this year. Thanks to everybody for listening. Don't forget

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Speaker 4: pushed out for you in twenty twenty. Thanks to TJ.

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Speaker 4: DeSantis for all the hard work for Ian Parker, Ray Longo, Kenthlong,

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Speaker 4: John Anix, and so long for now. We are back Monday,

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Speaker 4: January sixth, after the bye week twenty twenty, and we

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