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Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode of the Fish Bites podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: arm Laighton, writer for fish Stripes dot com, and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Tim Healy, Marlins beat writer the Sun Sentinel. Tim,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining.

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Speaker 2: Us today anytime. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: So, Tim, tell us a little about yourself. How you

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Speaker 1: ended up in South Florida writing for the Sentinel.

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Speaker 3: Well, I started writing for the Sun Sentinel last summer.

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Speaker 3: Before that, I was living in Boston. The spot was

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Speaker 3: open and I applied and eventually moved on down. It

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Speaker 3: was a big change for me, being a New England

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Speaker 3: guy all my life. But so far, so good. It's

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Speaker 3: been an eventful almost year.

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Speaker 1: And how would you compare South Florida sports to those

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Speaker 3: I don't want to put anybody off here, but it

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Speaker 3: just it seems like a drop off to me. You know,

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Speaker 3: in Boston, everybody loves every team, and in South Florida

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Speaker 3: it seems like not so much. Obviously, Dolphins are gonna

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Speaker 3: be number one, and then you know.

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Speaker 2: People got it really into the heat this past winter.

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Speaker 3: The Panthers sort of fell on their face and when

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Speaker 3: they were expected to be good. And we'll see what

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Speaker 3: happens with the Marlins. This year, But I think of

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Speaker 3: South Florida. South to South Florida to me is like

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Speaker 3: pretty much any market where if a team is winning,

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Speaker 2: So and you know, in my small sample size here

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Speaker 2: that's held up.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because for people that cover sports, obviously

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Speaker 1: you do on a grander scale. In South Florida, it

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Speaker 1: seems like a lot of your readership depends on how

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Speaker 1: well the team's doing, because all of a sudden, all

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Speaker 1: these fans come out of the woodworks. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Southworida teams end up with a huge amount of support

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Speaker 1: when they're doing well, but like you said, when things

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Speaker 1: aren't going well, fans seem to disappear. And I actually

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Speaker 1: recently wrote a piece on the Marlins attendance woes and

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Speaker 1: how it's been since ninety three and even when they

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Speaker 1: those winning seasons it would drop right off. But anyways,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about this season. Speaking of struggling,

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Speaker 1: the Marlins started off pretty hot at ten and eight

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Speaker 1: encouraged by the Marlins start through eighteen games with the

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Speaker 1: be struggling. What do you see different from that first

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Speaker 3: It's the offense, you know, if you look at this,

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Speaker 3: you know, losers of six out of their last seven

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Speaker 3: games in they had that one explosion Someday afternoon against

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Speaker 3: the Pirates, the Justin Bore powered offensive explode. But other

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Speaker 3: than that, in five out of their six losses, they

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Speaker 2: So to me, it's all about it's all in the

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Speaker 1: Going to ask you that because everyone was worried about

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Speaker 1: But when they're struggling, it seems like everyone's struggling together,

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Speaker 1: and with that weak rotation, they really need to put

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Speaker 1: up runs. But what do you think about the bullpayer?

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Speaker 3: I think the bullpens has been very good this season. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: But overall, you know, I can't really put any of

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Speaker 1: The era is surprising because there's some guys that are struggling,

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Speaker 3: As far as far as Tazawa, He's signed to a

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Speaker 3: But for now, you know, a month into the season,

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Speaker 2: The Marlins you know, didn't open the season with one.

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Speaker 3: Now that Mattingly has with him, he's willing to say

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Speaker 2: On Sunday, so a lot of moving pieces there. But

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Speaker 2: That that flexibility goes a long.

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Speaker 1: Way, definitely, and a lot of people criticize that Marlins

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Speaker 1: be talking about right now is the potential Marlins sale.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of conflicting reports. One day, the

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Speaker 1: Now we're taking a step back and the team might

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Speaker 1: So what's the latest that you've heard on this potential

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Speaker 2: Well, the latest is what the Sun sentinels.

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Speaker 3: Dave Hyde first reported last night, which is yes, Jeb

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Speaker 3: Bush and Derek Jeter are very much in it, and

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Speaker 3: they it's far from final. But the second group, led

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Speaker 3: including Hall of Famer Tom Glavin, that group is very

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Speaker 2: Who actually has the money, who.

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Speaker 3: Are the individuals putting up the money because MLB obviously

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Speaker 3: long process. I don't expect this sale process to drive

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Speaker 1: You're right about the MLB not wanting a sketchy ownership

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Speaker 1: after what happened with the Mets, the last thing the

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Speaker 1: who would you want based on what you know to

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Speaker 3: That's a good question, and it's probably not one I

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Speaker 3: even though you know with the Jeb Jeter group, sure

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Speaker 3: And same with Jeff Bush, governor of Florida. Obviously as

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Speaker 3: that'd be great. They're they're definitely going to, you know,

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Speaker 1: And like you said, the prospects of just Derek Jeter

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Speaker 1: explaining that Jeb Bush said he wouldn't make immediate changes because,

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Speaker 1: of a finger. And the current TV deal isn't up

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a process. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: about that. So I've seen that you are working on

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Speaker 1: a book right now that is going to be released

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Speaker 1: in about a month.

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Speaker 4: Can you tell us a little about that book?

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Speaker 3: You're sure I wrote. I worked on this last year again,

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Speaker 3: and yep, it's coming out next month. It's called Hometown

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Speaker 3: Hardball and it's about minor league baseball stadiums in the Northeast.

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned, I grew up in the Northeast, grew

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Speaker 3: up in Connecticut. I'm a huge minor league baseball fan,

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Speaker 3: and before I moved to Florida last year, I started

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Speaker 3: this project where I visited a bunch of the affiliated

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Speaker 3: minor league stadiums in the Northeast. There are twenty seven

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Speaker 3: in all. I visited a bunch and wrote about all

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Speaker 3: of them in this book. And the goal with Hometown

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Speaker 3: Hardballs to tell what tell readers what a given day

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Speaker 3: at each ballpark is like. You'll see a lot of

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Speaker 3: the same stuff in minor league ballparks, but all of them,

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Speaker 3: especially in the Northeast where there are a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of old ballparks, all of them have their own flare

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Speaker 2: or tradition or place in a history book.

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Speaker 3: So that was a lot of fun to work on

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Speaker 3: and I'm looking forward to it coming out.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what's so awesome about baseball and sounds amazing.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to read it.

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Speaker 1: The amazing part about baseball is every stadium MLB or

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Speaker 1: minor league is distinct and there's no regulations in terms of,

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Speaker 1: you know, the outfield dimensions and the stands and everything

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Speaker 1: like that. So you don't hear about people saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: I want to go to every football stadium, I want

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Speaker 1: to go to every basketball arena. But my father and I,

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Speaker 1: from a young age, we set out to go to

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Speaker 1: every single MLB stadium and we got to about seventeen

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Speaker 1: so and I'm still working on it and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to try and get as close to finishing up this summer.

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Speaker 1: But what's amazing is just how distinct every park is,

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Speaker 1: and next I wanted to do that with the minor

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Speaker 1: league park. So I'm looking forward to reading that book

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Speaker 1: because it really is awesome how unique every stadium is,

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Speaker 1: especially in the minor leagues, because it seems to be

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Speaker 1: a much more loose environment and a lot more fun.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, it's definitely less serious, you know, from a

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Speaker 3: player development standpoint, wins and losses don't matter too much.

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Speaker 3: You know, in the majors, if you go to a

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Speaker 3: home game, you're probably bummed if the team loses. But

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Speaker 3: in the minors you don't see people really caring as much.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of goofiness going on. You'll see

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Speaker 3: a lot of weird attention grabbing promotions and it's a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun to keep track of.

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Speaker 1: Usually on our podcast, we wrap up with a hot take,

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Speaker 1: and my previous hot take was that Justin Boorr wasn't

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Speaker 1: the first Basement of the future. And he also shut

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Speaker 1: me up right after that bye by absolutely just mashing.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I get for calling out Justin Borer.

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Speaker 1: But I know I'm kind of blindsiding you here, But

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Speaker 1: what's your Marlin's hot take?

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Speaker 4: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: It's against my nature to make grand proclamations, but I

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Speaker 3: will say, and you know, I don't know how much

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Speaker 3: of a hot take this is. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: the reception would be, but I think Dan Strelie could

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Speaker 3: be the best picture in this rotation. We saw his

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Speaker 3: fourteen strikeout game a couple of weeks ago, and you know,

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Speaker 3: he's among the league leaders in strike up percentage. He's

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Speaker 3: leading all National League starters in batting average against, So

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Speaker 3: I think there's there's more in there.

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Speaker 2: He had a breakout your last year. I think there's

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Speaker 2: more in there and.

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Speaker 3: He could be the you know, not an ace really,

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Speaker 3: but the best pitcher out of these five.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people were a little worried about

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Speaker 1: that trade, saying that one, the Marlins may have overpaid,

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Speaker 1: in two that Dan Straley's season last year might not

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Speaker 1: be replicable because a lot of the advanced statistics showed

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Speaker 1: that maybe those stats were a little fluky and it

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Speaker 1: might not be sustainable. But so far, he's looked he's

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Speaker 1: looked decent. He got touched up a little bit in

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Speaker 1: the beginning, but I agree he's definitely shown that he

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Speaker 1: has the potential to have the best stuff in this rotation,

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Speaker 1: especially with the Bolquez struggling and Conley being streaky way

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Speaker 1: in chen.

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Speaker 4: I think you know what you're gonna get now.

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Speaker 1: He's he seems to be settled in a different way

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Speaker 1: in Sheren than he was last year battling injury.

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Speaker 4: But he's definitely thrown a lot of quality starts.

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Speaker 1: But he's not going to strike out fourteen guys and

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Speaker 1: Dan Straylie, like you said, has shown the ability to

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Speaker 1: do that. So that's very interesting and I think the

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Speaker 1: Marlins will definitely need someone to step up and be

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Speaker 1: that leader in the rotation. So thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us, Tim, And that's Hometown Hardball, the book

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Speaker 1: that is going to be releasing you said in a month. Correct, yep, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, and uh, it

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Speaker 1: was a pleasure having you.

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Speaker 2: On absolutely anytime.

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Speaker 1: And this is going to wrap it up for our

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Speaker 1: third episode of the fish Bites podcast of this season.

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Speaker 1: Fish Stripes dot com your place for all things Miami Marlins.

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Speaker 4: Have a good one, everyone,