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Speaker 1: and Johnny. I taught to Tim Kelly also today, which

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Speaker 1: by the way, that I found interesting was he automatically

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Speaker 1: went to special teams with his defense right that the

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Speaker 1: special teamers have to hunt. And he said, that's really

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Speaker 1: a defensive mindset, you know, to go get the guy,

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Speaker 1: to go get the ball carrier. He said, it's not

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Speaker 1: so much an offensive mindset. And I was thinking about that, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: and I was thinking about Matthew Slater of the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: who's an offensive player, but he's a great special team

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Speaker 1: or But you know, some offensive guys can have that.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt they clearly do have that. But I

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Speaker 1: really think that is interesting because a lot of offensive

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Speaker 1: guys probably don't have that. They're not they're not head

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Speaker 1: hunters for lack of a better way of putting it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right. I mean a lot of times I know

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Speaker 1: teams want to use like, hey, let's use our fastest

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Speaker 1: guy as the gunner, which sometimes as a receiver, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of times that doesn't work because, especially you know,

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Speaker 1: a punt team, because they don't understand angles, they don't

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Speaker 1: understand how to break down and make a tackle in space.

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Speaker 1: And to Anthony's point about hunting, you know, hunting isn't

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Speaker 1: just about going point A to point B and just

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Speaker 1: taking a bee line and going there. Hunting is making

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Speaker 1: sure that you are attacking under control so that when

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Speaker 1: you get there, you make the kill or make the tackle.

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Speaker 1: And that's what defensive players have got to be able

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Speaker 1: to do. The thing I like about these special teams

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Speaker 1: mark I Keian Crossing has more energy than I ever

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Speaker 1: seen life. You could, hey, keyon, we're gonna run a

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Speaker 1: hundred plays and it's all punt and you have to

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Speaker 1: be the gunner for every play, and he would be like,

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Speaker 1: what'd I sign up? Would I sign up. That guy's

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Speaker 1: got more energy than anybody I've ever seen. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: So you his energy is contagious. Then you got AJ

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Speaker 1: Moore who takes such pride and special teams, and I

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Speaker 1: think that pride and special teams could end up leading

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Speaker 1: to him getting some time at safety because he does

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Speaker 1: some good things when he's on the field at safety.

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Speaker 1: Then you've got Michael Thomas, the vet who I watched

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Speaker 1: sprint from one end to the field to the other

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Speaker 1: to get ready for punt out of the end zone

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Speaker 1: for punt team. And he was on that punt team

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Speaker 1: and he was making sure that everybody was kind of

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Speaker 1: following his lead. I mean, these are guys that take

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Speaker 1: such pride. Not only are the defensive players that takes

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Speaker 1: such pride in the special teams, knowing how much of

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Speaker 1: a factor they can be in a game. And we've

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Speaker 1: seen that the last couple of years. We've seen the

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Speaker 1: special teams become a major factor for this team. And

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Speaker 1: the guys like Kean Crossing and Dylan Cole and A J.

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Speaker 1: Moore and Colin Gillaspia, those guys all play a role

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Speaker 1: and make a big impact and they take pride in it.

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Speaker 1: I love that They're not just like, oh, I gotta

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Speaker 1: play social teams. These guys love it. And that's the

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Speaker 1: first thing about hunting. You better love it. And they do.

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Speaker 1: They absolutely do, and they need to. There's no question, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: this question was thrown at me. What is Watson's greatest game?

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Speaker 1: Watson's greatest not statistically, but what's his greatest game? And

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Speaker 1: maybe not the most the highest magnitude win, but the

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Speaker 1: most impressive to you? I want to know your answer

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Speaker 1: for that. Plus who's better. We're gonna play it. It's

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Speaker 1: all coming up here. I'm Texans Radio. Download the Texans

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Speaker 1: Subscribe on i's tune in and Stitcher to get the

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Speaker 1: latest said right to your phone. Johnny, what is Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson's greatest game? In your opinion? Forget about the stats.

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Speaker 1: Give me his best game. Maybe not the one with

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Speaker 1: the most magnitude either necessarily, but what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Dallas twenty eighteen, Dallas Night, Here's why sixteen. Yeah, here's

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Speaker 1: here's why I say that. The other one I mean

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Speaker 1: statistically the day the two, the two that standouts statistically

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Speaker 1: where he was just otherworldly were twenty eighteen Miami and

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Speaker 1: that Thursday night and last year against Atlanta. But I say,

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Speaker 1: I say Dallas in twenty eighteen, Mark, I would have

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Speaker 1: been done our six years now. The last year was

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Speaker 1: the sixth season, fourteen seventy eighteen nineteen. Yeah, this would

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Speaker 1: be the seventh season. So in six seasons of being

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Speaker 1: down on the sidelines, I had not seen a game

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Speaker 1: anywhere close to as physical as that Dallas game was.

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Speaker 1: Every single body on the field that night just got

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Speaker 1: absolutely tortured, and DeShawn took shot after shot after shot

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Speaker 1: after shot. Now we know what happened obviously afterwards, but

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Speaker 1: before he ends up having to go be checked out

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Speaker 1: at the hospital because of the pounding that he took,

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Speaker 1: he makes that iconic play happen Hopspin's obviously DeAndre makes

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Speaker 1: the spin and the spin, but DeShawn has to make

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Speaker 1: that throw, and it's not an easy throw to make.

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Speaker 1: But he had made throws like that all night. He

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Speaker 1: had made big plays all night, and I just felt

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Speaker 1: like he took such a beating and yet kept making

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Speaker 1: plays and ended up making the one play at the

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Speaker 1: very end that we needed to make, and obviously he

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Speaker 1: combined with DeAndre on it, but he doesn't make that throw.

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Speaker 1: If his throw is just a hair off. DeAndre can't

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Speaker 1: catch and run. If it's too if it's too if

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Speaker 1: it's too shallow, or if he doesn't put enough enough

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Speaker 1: air on it and it's flat, it might be picked off.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, if he throws it too hard, it's incomplete.

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Speaker 1: There's so many ways that play could not have may

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Speaker 1: not have happened, and he made it happen after that

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Speaker 1: pounding and his numbers I think were pretty good that night.

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Speaker 1: He did throw interception, that was because he was hit

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Speaker 1: and the ball fluttered out of the air. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: his numbers were outstanding that night. He took a pounding

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Speaker 1: and kept coming and then had to go to the

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Speaker 1: hospital afterwards, and he created one of the most iconic

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Speaker 1: plays in the franchise history. So I would say Dallas

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, I think Buffalo, and I know they were

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Speaker 1: terrible for much of the night, which Buffalo the playoff game?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because you know when I look at that game,

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Speaker 1: they were going no place. You know, we were debating

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Speaker 1: do we replay that game? Until vision and we thought, well,

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Speaker 1: can we start midway through the third quarter on the

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Speaker 1: replay because it was so bad early on. And Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: to their credit, is a pretty good football team, right,

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Speaker 1: this is a good football team. But we all know

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Speaker 1: what we were thinking at halftime that, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: we have another cults here. Indie visited wildcard round and

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Speaker 1: knocked us off and that was it. Buffalo is visiting

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Speaker 1: wildcard round and they're about to do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: And what has happened to the Houston Texas, right, But

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Speaker 1: Watson and what made the big sack play that was

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Speaker 1: there was no question and that forced a field goal

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Speaker 1: and then sixteen nothing down, Watson goes to work and

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Speaker 1: it was really magical. I mean he took people with

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Speaker 1: him into the end zone. And again it's not about

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Speaker 1: the numbers. It's not like he threw five touchdown passes

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Speaker 1: that night, but he's single handedly, it seemed, scored a

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Speaker 1: touchdown on that one play taking people with him, got

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Speaker 1: the two point conversion, then they got a field goal,

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Speaker 1: then they get another touchdown, and then he makes the

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Speaker 1: play that is one of the top two in the

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Speaker 1: history of the franchise with the escape from the sack

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Speaker 1: and hitting Taiwan Jones who gets it into chip shot

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Speaker 1: field goal range. I just think that that game, with

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Speaker 1: what's on the line, I mean, lives change perhaps if

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Speaker 1: you don't make those plays, and he made those plays.

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Speaker 1: So it's he's had so many and unfortunately, maybe the

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Speaker 1: best performances are losses Philly, New Orleans, New England, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City the first year, those five games, if they

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Speaker 1: get a little help on D, a little more help

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Speaker 1: on D, those could all be wins, or at least

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Speaker 1: you can go three and two, four and one or

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Speaker 1: something and that'd be really cool. But you didn't. So whatever,

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Speaker 1: you live with it. You have Deshaun Watson on this

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Speaker 1: football team and you have to love it. Okay. I

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Speaker 1: just thought i'd mentioned that this is a tough one. Man.

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Speaker 1: I thought Break and Dallas is the one that came

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Speaker 1: up just because of the magnitude of that game. And

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Speaker 1: it was a great game. It was a great game.

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Speaker 1: That was like if it was soccer. If it was soccer, right,

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Speaker 1: that would be like a cup. You know, that's the

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Speaker 1: Governor Cup. That's a special game. It's a it's a

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Speaker 1: mid season bowl game. You have it every four years.

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Speaker 1: And it's special and you should play it every year,

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Speaker 1: darn it, but you don't. Okay, let's play who's better? Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is straight teams. Who's better? Okay, who's better in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty? And this is a three way the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: the Browns or the Raiders. Johnny, who's better? Tough Patriots?

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Speaker 1: With all the all the opt outs? Ye camp Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Patriots defense has been decimated from the from those opt outs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's gonna be a little bit tough,

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Speaker 1: right I Listen, they're not devoid of talent. Belichick will

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Speaker 1: find a way to do some things. McDaniels will find something.

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Speaker 1: On offense. They'll be they'll be Okay. I'm curious to

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Speaker 1: see how the quarterback situation plays out. Everybody's getting equal

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Speaker 1: reps right now. I my surprise team. You hit them,

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Speaker 1: the two surprise teams, and I think all along are

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Speaker 1: the Browns and the Raiders this year. I don't even

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Speaker 1: know if the Raiders will be a surprise. I think

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Speaker 1: the Browns might be for some people because they're like,

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Speaker 1: well you everybody said last year they're supposed to be

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Speaker 1: so good and they weren't very good. Look, there's a

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Speaker 1: new coach, there's a new GM, there's a new power structure.

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Speaker 1: It feels as though there's been no spotlight on the Browns. Ye,

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Speaker 1: they're just doing their work. Baker Mayfield had his come

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Speaker 1: uppance last year. He had to go through that. He

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Speaker 1: finally got punched in the mouth and in his career

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Speaker 1: and so now it's like, Okay, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: How are you gonna respond? He's got a great running game.

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Speaker 1: They had a Jack Conklin on the offensive line, they

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Speaker 1: had a Jedrick Wills and the offensive line. The thing

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Speaker 1: about it is, I don't know that Cleveland is exceptional defensively.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. They got Miles Garrett, but they may

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Speaker 1: have lost Mac Wilson today. They're starting linebacker and they're

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Speaker 1: already thinn at linebacker, and I don't think their secondary

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Speaker 1: is exceptional. They've got a bunch of young guys back there.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be good in a couple of years. They

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Speaker 1: drafted Grant Delpit, they have Greed Williams that one corner

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Speaker 1: opposite Denzel Ward. They've signed Karl Joseph who it kind

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Speaker 1: of ran out of favor in Oakland slash Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: but I would still say the Browns because I think

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Speaker 1: the Browns are gonna outscore teams. I think the Raiders

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Speaker 1: record is gonna be is gonna be lesser than the

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Speaker 1: Browns because the Raiders are in ANFC West, But I

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Speaker 1: think the Raiders can end up being pretty good. I

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Speaker 1: think they're both on the press miss because they still

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Speaker 1: have some young talent that needs a year of seasoning.

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Speaker 1: And when it comes around, I think the Browns and

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Speaker 1: Raiders are gonna be really good football teams. But it

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Speaker 1: comes back to for the Raiders, what does Derek card

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Speaker 1: And for the Browns does Baker Mayfield bounce back? We

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Speaker 1: know Baker Mayfield can do it, he did as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: but is he gonna bounce back? So what do you

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Speaker 1: get in Cleveland? So I'm gonna say the Browns because

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Speaker 1: I do think Baker will bounce back, and I think

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Speaker 1: overall Cleveland's more complete, especially offensively than the Raiders. Okay,

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Speaker 1: who's better? As we continue with this segment, the Ravens

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Speaker 1: or the Chiefs? Who's better? Johnny number one seeded Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Last year they melted down the playoffs, losing to the Titans.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs didn't exactly look great all the time. In

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Speaker 1: their playoff games, they were trailing in each one of them,

638
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: but one each one of them. Who's better? And now

639
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: it's brand new year. Who's better Ravens in the Chiefs, boy,

640
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs And I still let me throw

641
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: these at you. Total offense from last year, and I

642
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: know Ravens number one, Chiefs number five, fifth rated offense.

643
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: Now Matt Moore played some of the years, so there's that.

644
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens and Chiefs both have big losses

645
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, one loss each. But I think

646
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: that the loss is bigger for the Ravens. But I

647
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs they've been together a little bit longer,

648
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: running that offense for a little bit longer together. I

649
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: just think that Chiefs defense is it's a little better.

650
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: People give a credit for it, but it's all coming back.

651
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: The Ravens up front are gonna have Clais Campbell at

652
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: Derek Wolf. Now they both have got some age. If

653
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: one of those guys gets banged up, the Ravens front

654
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: gets really young in a hurry, and then they're starting

655
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: more than likely two rookies at linebacker. So I think

656
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: that teams can have some success against the Ravens running

657
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: the football, especially trying to wear down guys like Clais

658
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: Campbell and Derek Wolf, and Wolf's coming off an injury.

659
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: Clais is like eighty years old. And I think the

660
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: Ravens defense will start showing some cracks in the armor.

661
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: Unfortunately won't be in Week two. I think it's gonna

662
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: be later. But I think the Chiefs defense started to

663
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: kind of show some things at the end of last year, like,

664
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: hey man, they might have this thing going a little bit.

665
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't think either defense is tremendous. I think the

666
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: Ravens secondary is, but I don't think anything else in

667
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: the Ravens is tremendous upfront or at linebacker. So I

668
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: do think that the Chiefs have a little bit of

669
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: a leg up and with the Ravens. Was it a

670
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: one year thing that offense? Are people gonna be able

671
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: to see what the Titans did and emulate it and

672
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: stop it a little bit better? As Lamar gonna continue

673
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: to get frustrated like you did in the playoff game.

674
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: I think that's a big if. We've seen pat have

675
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: to deal with that lost AFC Championship game, came back

676
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. He dealt with adversity and showed

677
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: how to do it. And I think once you win

678
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: a championship, Mark, I don't know. I don't want to

679
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: say it takes the pressure off, but I think guys

680
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: in that team can then look at one another and go, hey, yeah, hey,

681
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: we've done this before, We've been here before, we know

682
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: how to do this. Whereas the Ravens haven't want a

683
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: playoff game. Since Lamar's taking over as starter, there's gonna

684
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: be a ton of pressure on the Ravens this year,

685
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes that's gonna that can play a

686
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: role for a team during the season. So I'm gonna

687
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: go the Chiefs. Okay, Well, I look at rushing offense

688
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: sometimes because I just think it's such an important statistic.

689
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: At Texans, Cults, and Titans were all in the top nine. Okay,

690
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: the Ravens were number one, obviously Lamar Jackson having a

691
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: huge role than that. But you look at the top

692
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: four rushing teams all went to the playoffs. Let's see

693
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: five of the first six, and then you go to

694
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: the Cults seventh, Bills and Texans both went to the postseason.

695
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it's a big stat in

696
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are not up there in rushing statistics. Okay, now,

697
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: Damian Williams opts out, what's the name of the rookie

698
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: running back they have, Clyde Edward de Laire. Yeah, don't

699
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: don't do this to me. Okay, Well, I don't. I

700
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: don't need to see him. I don't need to see

701
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: him do Well, this is no, I don't. I don't either.

702
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: He's better than Damian Williams. That's the thing. He's better

703
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: than Davey Williams up. Yeah, No, I mean it's I

704
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: hate it. I mean when they drafted him, I'm like, oh,

705
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: I mean you. I mean we were doing the draft

706
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: that night. You were Drey. Both Dray and I were like,

707
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: oh man, here we go, Drey. I'll join us on Thursday.

708
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: By the way, he's gonna be out of practice, so

709
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: that'll be cool, all right. So when we come back,

710
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: I've got one more for you and the who's better category,

711
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: and we'll go around the league. A certain quarterback return

712
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: to practice today. So that was too bad. I mean,

713
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: it was good for him. It's Texans Radio. For the

714
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: most in depth coverage of your favorite team and players.

715
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: Check out Houston Texans dot com dot com. It's battle

716
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: Red Radio, Texans Radio one, Sports Radio six ten. Here's

717
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: more of Texans all exits Lonny More. Okay, we're running

718
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: out a show though, So even though we have plenty more,

719
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: we're running out of plenty. Okay, it's gonna quickly dwindle.

720
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: So let's get to a Mark vandermar John Harris with

721
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: you all right? One leftover? Who's better? Who's better Johnny,

722
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh or Tennessee or the Cult? Whoever you have finishing

723
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: second in the AFC South. I don't know if you're

724
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna have anybody finishing ahead of the Texans in the

725
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: AFC South. I think it's actually and we can get

726
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: into this later and we will. I think it's actually

727
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: pretty close. But I'll give the Texans the nod. Quarterback

728
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: to me is, you know, obviously a pretty big deal

729
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: in this league. And I think they, no question of

730
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: the best, want it. I'm gonna pick them to win it.

731
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: So whoever you have second in the AFC South, just

732
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: to be presumptuous, Pittsburgh versus the second team in the

733
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Speaker 1: AFC South, I would say I would say Pittsburgh. I

734
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: would say Pittsburgh I you know, I don't. I don't

735
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: love the Titans. I think the Titans defense is gonna

736
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: be not so great this year. I do think the

737
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: Colts defense might be a bunch of no names and

738
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: the Forrest Buckner in Darius Leonard, But I think the

739
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: Colts defense will be sound for the most part. I

740
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: don't know that I love the Colts secondary, but I

741
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: think Philip Rivers will provide some stability for them. I

742
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: think Ryan Tannehill gives the Titans the confidence that they

743
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: can run it back, which I love. I just don't

744
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: know that any unit is as good as the Pittsburgh defense.

745
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: That Pittsburgh defense. Oh my god. When you look at

746
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: when I did I did mind know your faux article

747
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: and I went through each you know, each guy on

748
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the all, I'm like, oh my God,

749
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: like Stefant who it comes back. Cam Hayward was phenomenal

750
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: last year. T J. Watt could have been the defensive

751
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: player of the year. Oh, by the way, Bud Dupree

752
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: is still there. Then linebackers Devin Bush's phenomenal going into

753
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: the second year the secondary, they made a trade from

754
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: Makea Fitzpatrick and now He's just one of the top

755
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: three safeties in the league, one of the top three

756
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: playmakers in the league. You know, by the way they

757
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: got a lockdown corner of Joe Hayden, who still got game.

758
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: Holy smokes, A defense is gonna be good. But I

759
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: just don't know what Ben's got left in the tank.

760
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how good that offense can be. The

761
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: offensive line really kind of just showed some deterioration last year.

762
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: But I'm still gonna say Pittsburgh because I think that

763
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: defense is better than any unit of any team in

764
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: the AFC salve not named the Texans, of course, And

765
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: I just don't know that I trust the Titans and

766
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: Colts to really kind of be better than Steelers. So

767
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Steelers. Wow, so you're guaranteeing three in

768
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: week three, that's what you're telling me. You're scaring the

769
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: daylights out of it. I did not say that. I

770
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: did not guarantee. I did not guarantee victory in week three.

771
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: The worst of a claim, right now. Okay, you're like

772
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: the grim reaper of no I said Pittsburgh was gonna

773
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: be better than those two teams. Yeah, I know, I know.

774
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: I know, well, that's good for those two teams when

775
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: they play him. But you know, we gotta go up

776
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: there week three. Okay, let's I just I'm just giving

777
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: you a hard time. Let's go around the league a

778
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: little bit here. What about Ryan Tannehill returning to practice.

779
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: That's too bad. Now, that's good for him. He's a

780
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: good guy. We actually like him, but not as a

781
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: Titans quarterback. Yeah, he's gonna be, It'll be okay. You know,

782
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: somebody I can't remember market it was you and I

783
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: talking about that kind of looked at Ryan Tannehill like

784
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. I think there's there are some similarities. I mean,

785
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: we were talking about Ryan Tannehill or Alex Smith in comparison.

786
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: Somebody maybe you and I were talking about that last night,

787
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: I think, and we're looking at well, you know, this

788
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: guy's career really didn't take off. We're talking about Mitch Trabiscuit,

789
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: That's what it was. And I think that Alex Smith

790
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: and Ryan Tannehill are probably maybe even closer in comparison.

791
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: I think Tannehill has just avoided the big injury other

792
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: than the one I think that knocked him out one

793
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: year in Miami. But you know, you can still see

794
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: the athleticism and he made some good throws against us.

795
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: Him being back just gives that offense confidence that, hey,

796
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: we can do we can do what we need to do.

797
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: Tannehill knows the system will expand it a little bit

798
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 1: this year. Now in his second year, they're still gonna

799
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: rely on Derrick Henry, and I think that's gonna end

800
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: up being what ends up being the Achilles Hill because

801
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna want to try and give Henry another three

802
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty touches. And no back has ever come

803
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: off a four hundred touch season and turned around had

804
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: a better year with just as many or a little

805
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: under the carries or touches he had the year before.

806
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: There's no way. So there's gotta be regression to the

807
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: mean for him, and that puts more pressure on Tannehill,

808
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: and I think that's when he ends up having the struggles.

809
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: So if they can stay balanced, then Tannehill I think,

810
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: ends up being a really really staunch weapon for them.

811
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: But if not, man, then I think it's gonna be

812
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: tough Texans playing the Bears this year. Of course, so

813
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: we've been talking about that a little bit. I think

814
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: we discussed them this morning a little bit, but they

815
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: have been switching quarterbacks first couple of days of this week,

816
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: with Foles getting a day in, Trubisky getting a day

817
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: with the first team, and Matt nage I don't blame

818
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: him for not saying anything definitive and for having a competition,

819
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: because why not push both guys. I know there's not

820
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: a whole lot of time to get ready for the season,

821
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: but it does you no good to name Trubisky right

822
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: now or Foles. I think I like this. Keep it going,

823
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: keep the competition coming. Yeah, absolutely, especially if you're not

824
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: totally sure what you're gonna do. You know what I mean,

825
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: if you don't know exactly what you want to do now,

826
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: maybe Downeton Matt Nagie knows he wants it to be

827
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky, and that's the way that he definitely is leaning.

828
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Speaker 1: But I texted you before the show. I happened to

829
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: watch the Hard Knocks episode O our Hard Knocks episodes

830
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: from twenty fifteen, and I I just remember Leave Schreiber

831
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: saying it's three weeks from the opener and the Texans

832
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: don't know yet who the quarterback is. Starting quarterback is

833
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: gonna be remember that, And I was like, man, can

834
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: you imagine because we're about three weeks out right now, right,

835
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: you know? Incredible, we're three weeks out. Can you imagine

836
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: if we didn't know who the starting quarterback was gonna

837
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: be right now, who's it gonna be gonna be? Was

838
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: this after Mallett overslept? No, this was right before, right before,

839
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: because right before did it was? What was gonna happen

840
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: at that point? Yeah, when he did it, We're like,

841
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: you know, but if I remember correctly, it was after

842
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, I'm sorry, after the Broncos. The

843
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: second game against the Broncos that weekend he named for

844
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Speaker 1: the starter. And then one of those days that that

845
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Speaker 1: that week he was named. Yes, that's right, he withered.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's too bad, Bryan, terrible. Okay, Well, thanks so much, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: It was a great day as always. This morning was wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow morning it's gonna be great. Eight am. We'll have

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Speaker 1: things to discuss as it's another day of training camp

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Speaker 1: for your Houston Texans. Thank you Joanna for producing. Have

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Speaker 1: a great night everyone, and go Texans. This is Texans

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