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Speaker 1: What we were seeking to do in pro free agency

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Dad, Jam, I'm kind Annie Stephens, Brian Sexton,

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Speaker 2: John Osier with me today as we're gonna go over

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Speaker 2: appropriate agency that went official last week, and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: Let's go through our big things today. For you. First

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Speaker 2: big thing, it's gonna be intangibly rich. That's something we've

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Speaker 2: heard from general manager James Gladstone throughout this process. Brian,

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Speaker 2: there's ninety players coming into town. Not all of them

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Speaker 3: You know, Ky, that was my favorite phrase from Gladstone's

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Speaker 3: which is another word for culture, and he was looking

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Speaker 3: to bring in guys who would change the tenor of

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Speaker 4: They spent moderate spending on the guys who are gonna

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Speaker 3: There's a familiarity there.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Our second big thing today is gonna be open spots. Now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got ten picks in this year's draft. We're

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Speaker 1: Standing in the way. We're gonna allow these rookies to,

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Speaker 2: Fire a little bit there. Obviously, John, we don't know

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the places that were left during

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Speaker 4: They're all places, Brian, where they have their starters, their

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Speaker 3: Our habit in the media is to focus on the

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, They're gonna have a ton of flexibility there, which

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the beautiful part about it. They are focused

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think clearly that's what free agency is about.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of new potential and opportunities here,

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Speaker 5: Get that done.

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Speaker 2: Nine new players, McCary coming from the Ravens. He's played

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Speaker 3: You know, you're taking a player out of the ecosystem,

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Speaker 4: Well. Defensive coordinators pick up on that, and so you

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Speaker 3: Brian they're better everywhere. Listen, I know the quarterback is

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 3: I like that kind of guy on the back end,

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Speaker 3: because you've got to do that every single play, regardless

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Speaker 2: As we talk about the scene, we always say it

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Speaker 2: is going to be huge this year. Of course, Swilliam

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Speaker 2: kind of knows the system. Excited to get to work

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Speaker 8: He's done a lot of really successful things. He shot

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Speaker 8: So I told him, like, I'm here to help you

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Speaker 8: to think that my familiarity with the system and concepts

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Speaker 2: Ryan has backup quarterback. But having some people around you

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Speaker 2: that's another new system for Trevor Lawrence to be learning

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Speaker 3: And this is a system guy. I mean he worked

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Speaker 3: Good move. I don't know what else to say.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I thought you did a nice job in

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Speaker 4: and his last. Yes, if you're going to change systems

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Speaker 3: So it's a teaching position as well.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the little things important to remember that

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do some hot takes after the break for

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Speaker 2: you on jags Am. Move the freight, Move the freight

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Speaker 2: Magellan Transport, but the coolest office space in Jacksonville. You

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Speaker 2: We haven't done some hot takes in a while, so

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Speaker 3: So give me an offensive lineman at number five. There

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Speaker 3: don't think you can go wrong with jamming that offensive

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's the way they're going to go,

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Speaker 4: So I wouldn't rule that out. My hot take is

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Speaker 3: We got two of them, so you can take both, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can find players or trade up.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's trade er, Jim.

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Speaker 2: That's my Hustbay. I want some calls to be made because,

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Speaker 2: as we mentioned trade of Christian Kirk, there's now twenty

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Speaker 2: If we can get some people that are filling those

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Speaker 3: About five voice?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, there's plenty of times I get on

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Speaker 3: Sure, we'll figure it out. Yeah, soe playing.

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Speaker 6: I hope what they see is someone who cares. I

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Speaker 6: If I'm not doing that, text me, shoot me, tweet me,

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Speaker 3: The magic words I care about that stuff. Great. Again,

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Speaker 3: that's what they were looking for with this free agent

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Speaker 2: what's kind of coming up for the front office as.

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Speaker 3: They look for to the draft.

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Speaker 4: Your next big step is the thirty players come in,

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Speaker 4: and that's often an indication, not necessarily a first round,

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Speaker 4: but as you go through the draft, it's an indication

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Speaker 4: of guys they like and guys who are on their

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Speaker 4: short list that you're trying.

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Speaker 3: To find more about.

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Speaker 4: Never believe what you read about the draft coming in,

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Speaker 4: but that top thirty visit, Brian, it has in recent

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Speaker 4: years sort of giving you an indication of at least

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Speaker 4: the kind of guy teams like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there'll be players on there that people's name, you know,

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Speaker 3: they won't be household names. So Seth Payne walked through

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Speaker 3: the door in nineteen ninety seven. He was a defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle from Cornell. Why are you bringing this guy in?

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Speaker 3: Because they like it and they took him. So there

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Speaker 3: are players every year that will filter through that thirty

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Speaker 3: and because they're going to be their fourth round pick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we leave Andrew ingerd I think came in for

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Speaker 4: a thirty visit and he was a free agent. So

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Speaker 4: it's not necessarily about getting thirty guys in the first round.

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Speaker 4: It's about making sure you have a good feel for

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Speaker 4: guys you like. It's a final look very good.

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Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that the coming weeks, and we'll

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Speaker 2: be back with you next week here on Jack's Am.