WEBVTT - Alrighty… it’s Happening.  Kyle MacLachlan is Here!

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Charlotte? So today everybody is a special special

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<v Speaker 1>day on Are you a Charlotte? The one and only

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle McLaughlin is here joining us to talk everything Tray

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<v Speaker 1>and Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 2>I brought the cardboard baby, it's just outside. Allowed so

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<v Speaker 2>happy to be here. Thank you for having me on,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for being here to get into everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fun conversation you guys. Kyle has an amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>amazing style and home day Corps.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some really good advice from Kyle back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Remind me what I said to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a really really old apartment Upper West Side,

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<v Speaker 1>pre war and yeah, and you and I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, there's like wires coming out of the walls,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. And you said, you need an

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<v Speaker 1>alibat sconce that's the time, and this is where you

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<v Speaker 1>go to get it. And I still have them. I

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<v Speaker 1>love them. I don't have anywhere to put them now.

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<v Speaker 1>You still have them, you say, because they're gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a beautiful light that comes out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>Very fat, very flattery, very warm, light, warm.

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<v Speaker 2>And sauce, I know makes us look good like the lighting.

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<v Speaker 1>You have hairs warm, and I know I feel strongly

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<v Speaker 1>about lighting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's important, right, oh my god. And the older we

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<v Speaker 3>get more important, it becomes right. Yeah, that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>love about your hair. I think your hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Is kind of like creating like a beautiful halo around

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<v Speaker 1>your face.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you. I'm glad I have it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you still have a ton of it, a lot of hair.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little different color.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, But wasn't it that color then too?

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<v Speaker 2>And you were I've been coloring my hair for oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I started going gray in my twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so crazy hereditary.

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<v Speaker 2>She was totally gray in college. Wow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And did she just wear it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Changed her look any many times, so she you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she colored her hair and then she had a wig

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<v Speaker 3>phase and then oh yeah, the whole thing it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the sixties and seventies. It was all about that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. It was kind of upstyle blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>She was very very in the small town of Yakama.

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<v Speaker 3>She was very fashion amazing. I guess fashion aware, not

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<v Speaker 3>ye a fashion forward, necessarily fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be hard in Yakama.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember at the time that we were on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, we would talk about your hair and how like,

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<v Speaker 1>would you ever be able to just be your natural

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<v Speaker 1>gray self?

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<v Speaker 2>Now you are and now I love it. It's happy

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<v Speaker 2>I gave up and you're embracing it. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>to thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And went walked in the Vogue World.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Yeah, the other night that was really fun?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it?

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<v Speaker 2>That was really fun? Yeah? It was.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Bazi Lhrman did the whole thing and it

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<v Speaker 3>was just so beautifully realized, I thought, and a nice

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<v Speaker 3>a meshing of fashion and the fashion world of course

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<v Speaker 3>and all of the designers right shows, yeah, films, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was really great.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was huge, big, so big, over one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and forty people walking in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I heard makeup room alone. It wasn't even

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<v Speaker 3>a room, it was a They had a sound stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow filled, Wow, it was wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you film it?

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<v Speaker 2>I did a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt a little like not uncomfortable, but like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, invade everyone's getting ready and I was

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<v Speaker 3>like not really the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did it kind of wide and sort of vague.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's interesting. I think that's really interesting. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to be there. That would be interesting, though

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<v Speaker 1>I would not want to walk in that thing. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you not that brave?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>You just walked down the street really yes on paramount. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you just walked down and there's people from other side.

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<v Speaker 3>They're cheering you on, like, okay, that's okay, very positive fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're very You've walked in shows before and things.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done a lot of things I have not done.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like you're the time is now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the time is now, for sure. But also I

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<v Speaker 1>think you have to know your like your wheelhouse or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that that's mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I would I would not discount that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's very real, perfect, thank you. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel I feel like you have

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<v Speaker 1>had in some ways, like many different careers, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's just different eras journy mean, and you always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had one foot in fashion and design.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like all of that and have been able

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of I was able to manifest it at

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<v Speaker 3>a certain time and it sort of stays around. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that was one of the pleasures of doing this world

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<v Speaker 3>was I got to see people that I hadn't seen,

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<v Speaker 3>oh for like over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, some of the makeup and hair people that I remember,

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<v Speaker 3>and and the Winter was there, and it's nice to

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<v Speaker 3>see her again. And I mean I see her occasionally

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<v Speaker 3>out and everything, but within the confines of the fashion element,

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<v Speaker 3>it was really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So let's go back in time.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go back in time. Do we need to do

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<v Speaker 3>anything special? Is there a music cue?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we?

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<v Speaker 1>We're a low fie. We're a little fie. We just

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<v Speaker 1>go back in our minds.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just come with me as much as much as you can.

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<v Speaker 1>There's your coffee that's going to help.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to help me go back in time,

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<v Speaker 2>fuel the memories to tell you that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think there was a lot of coffee going

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<v Speaker 1>on our sets because we were working all.

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<v Speaker 2>Night, working, oh my gosh, working.

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<v Speaker 1>All night, Oh my gosh, all the time, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was mostly you and me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's some people ask me to say, hey, what was

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<v Speaker 3>it like, you know, with all the girls and everything,

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, I don't know. I worked with

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<v Speaker 3>Kristen and we did our thing, and then I would

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<v Speaker 3>come out and you know, and I'd see, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm somebody else walking around. John Corporate would be there

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<v Speaker 3>and it's pink slippers and slippers and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Bathrob you had on. You know, you're up. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that was kind of the way it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I did remember too, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about when you first came, but

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<v Speaker 1>but what I did remember because I was watching last night,

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<v Speaker 1>right because you were coming. And I try I do

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<v Speaker 1>my best to be really disciplined about the rewatch because

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't rewatched these things in thirty years, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's I try to rewatch right before I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to come talk to whoever it is. But with us

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<v Speaker 1>that we had so many episodes and it's a whole, big,

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<v Speaker 1>big storyline, and I just fell down the rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just watching and watching and watching, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I've got to go to sleep. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to go to sleep. But it's so good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really held up, Like have you rewatched it?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't rewatched it, but I remember it being good.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time, I thought I thought the one of

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<v Speaker 3>the strengths in particularly our stuff was you know, let's

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<v Speaker 3>say the conceit of what was happening was funny and embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 3>let's I'll be honest. But at the same time, they

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<v Speaker 3>gave us a chance to deal with it in a

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<v Speaker 3>fairly educational and understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think so too, non judge, non judgy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, and you know, the mind of the humor

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<v Speaker 3>of it. But it was it was definitely something that

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<v Speaker 3>was it had I think it had a deeper it

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<v Speaker 3>was a deeper thing going on there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's which I really which I really appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely. Did they tell you when you came, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I remember. I remember that I knew this

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<v Speaker 1>was going to happen, right, that this storyline was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know it would be you, of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>the original plan that I think, I mean, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that Charlotte was going to, you know, be hell bent

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<v Speaker 1>on getting married, which made sense for her blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would, you know, had my books and my

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<v Speaker 1>different things, you know, And I remember that being very

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<v Speaker 1>challenging for me because I don't really subscribe to that

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but I know there are people who do. Exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do my research and get get the

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<v Speaker 1>books ready. And then I knew that you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to come you whoever you would be, Trey, and that

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<v Speaker 1>she would get what she wanted. But then it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out. And I didn't know why right and then,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know who it would be. And at

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<v Speaker 1>that point we had just started to get the significant

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Eigenberg was there. You know, we already had

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<v Speaker 1>Chris of course from the beginning, but then Corbett had come,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Sir Jessica was involved, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Cynthia was involved in Eigenberg, and so I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>might get to be involved. Then Michael Patrick went to

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<v Speaker 1>a picnic one weekend and met you. Do you remember this?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember a picnic.

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<v Speaker 1>You red picnic, I don't know. He comes to work

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<v Speaker 1>Monday morning, He's like, I've got your guy and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wait, wait, I don't get to meet it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, who is he? He said, Tom McLaughlin. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, okay, no complaints, no complaints. I'm very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>That was how it happened. I said, well, what how

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? He said, I went to this picnic and

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<v Speaker 1>he was there and I just just couldn't stop thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about how perfect he'd be and he was so charming.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you not remember this?

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<v Speaker 3>MPK, No, no, no, I remember the picnic, but I

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<v Speaker 3>do remember the meeting that I had with me and

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<v Speaker 3>Jenny Bicks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh got it. So you did have an official meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>We did, Okay, we did.

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<v Speaker 1>What did they say to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the thing that stand out or stood out to me,

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<v Speaker 3>And this again, this is a long time ago. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it had been presented to me like come, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>join the cast sect in the city. He's a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a descriptor, like he's on the Upper east Side.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he has kind of a kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>strong mother. He is a heart surgeon, you know, he

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<v Speaker 3>seeks athletic, you know. And at that point in my career,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is perfect, I said, because I've

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<v Speaker 3>been playing Agent Dale Cooper, and I've been playing you know,

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<v Speaker 3>somewhat eccentric, sort of odd ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Characters, romantic character romantic characters.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, this is a great opportunity to finally,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, tap into that because I've been kind of pigeonholed.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I was really excited at the meeting and

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<v Speaker 3>I came and I think it was at the Region

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<v Speaker 3>the Regency. I think, oh wow, I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>on the hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We went up uptown, Okay, and we sat down

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<v Speaker 2>and we had you.

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<v Speaker 3>Known't coffee and stuff and they were they were talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the show and pleasantries, you know, and Jenny was

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<v Speaker 3>there and uh. And then so they started to go

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<v Speaker 3>into this thing and I'm kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of excited to talking about you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's he's a guy spends time in Central Park.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's probably only be some surgery stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, and they said,

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<v Speaker 3>but the two things he said. One, he's he's got

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<v Speaker 3>kind of an unusual relationship with his mother. She's got

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<v Speaker 3>a dominating so he's got very close and and and

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<v Speaker 3>he's impotent. And I was like and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>he's impotent.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, and I'm there like this, and I'm smiling,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you know, just when you think you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get out, you back in.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like yeah, and mother, yeah, but they

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<v Speaker 4>told me, they told me, they told me, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, you know, listen there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a talented cast, talented writers.

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<v Speaker 3>The show was incredibly popular, and I was like, I'm in,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what am we gonna?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank God, thank god you're in. Thank God you're in.

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<v Speaker 1>And then do you remember? And I don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the specifics, but I think I feel like at some

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<v Speaker 1>point to two things changed once you came. One was

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<v Speaker 1>that I think originally you were only supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>like it was. It was a short arc, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to have three episodes or six fall apart,

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<v Speaker 1>right like quick. But then we were like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't part with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it extended, you know, and I was so happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Good choice of worried it extended.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, that's all right, free here could be whatever

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<v Speaker 1>this visual.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was so happy because I was really enjoying

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<v Speaker 3>my time and working with you absolutely, and the writing

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<v Speaker 3>was exceptional, and you know, there was and it was funny.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the thing. I mean, we treated it. Trey

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<v Speaker 3>treated it. He you know, he sort of like stiff

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<v Speaker 3>upper lip. Sorry that's another one. But he kept you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he kept you know, he kept his sense of humor

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<v Speaker 3>about you know, frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>But and then.

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<v Speaker 3>There I mentioned Francis Sternhagen and more a wonderful, wonderful

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<v Speaker 3>person and actress and so and I thought, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>that relationship was also very funny and fraught with all

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<v Speaker 3>sorts of you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh boy, this guy's in trouble. It was an

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<v Speaker 3>instant character. He was complicated and.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but that's also why, like in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>like in a what you bring something? You know, all

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<v Speaker 1>of us actors have something that we bring, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>for you, what I think you and why you had

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<v Speaker 1>someone gotten, you know, somewhat pigeonholed by Cooper because he

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<v Speaker 1>was so amazing, right because your your relationship with Lina.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everything was just worked so beautifully. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I watched every episode. You know, it was a diehard,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think when you came, I had to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like don't fangirl, don't fan girl, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like embarrassing in a way because I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to work with you and you've got to be tray

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<v Speaker 1>and blah blah blah. But in my mind, I'm like, ah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but I think you bring an intelligence, you

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<v Speaker 1>bring a bit of a sweetness which is kind of unexpected,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone so handsome, and then you do bring an eccentricity,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you mix those things, it's a very unique mix.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like that you work so beautifully with

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're also talking about your character.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you and you because that mix of things is very,

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<v Speaker 3>very very there and right at the surface, and you

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<v Speaker 3>have an extra thing which I think is kind of wonderful,

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<v Speaker 3>which I don't know if you ever spoke about this,

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<v Speaker 3>but I feel like I said with with Kristin, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if she realizes she she's funny. I

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<v Speaker 3>think she knows she's funny. If she's inadvertently funny, it's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the great comic comedic qualities that you could

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<v Speaker 3>possibly have, because I think there are you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>number of people throughout the history of film and television

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't know kind of what's going on, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I mean, I think I feel that this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I think about that in life previous to

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<v Speaker 1>like success, right when you're just trying to act, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which I've been trying to do my whole life. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the kind of situation where you know with guys,

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<v Speaker 1>like if I was dating somebody, we got in a fight,

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<v Speaker 1>they would laugh and I would be so bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>like my comedic because my feeling, my feelings are so big, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd get very super animated, and then they would laugh

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<v Speaker 1>at me, and I'd be like, stop laughing, I am serious,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know they're laughing at me, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain point you'd go like, hmm, well not

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<v Speaker 1>as interesting. It does hurt my feelings in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But once we started the show Jenny Bicks, when she

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<v Speaker 1>came on, she said to me, I didn't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you were funny or not. I thought, well, she's really

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<v Speaker 1>pretty and she's really nice and talented, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if she's funny. And then they wrote a scene

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<v Speaker 1>in one of her first episodes where I contemplate having

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<v Speaker 1>a threesome and then it really is just the other

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<v Speaker 1>two want to make out, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And they kind of pushed me off the bed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, oh no, you know, it's very Charlotte moment,

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<v Speaker 5>like she's trying something that's uncomfortable and it doesn't go right,

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<v Speaker 5>and I kind of fall slowly off the bed, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm also trying to keep my skirt from writing up,

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<v Speaker 5>which was really me, you know, right, Kristen as an

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<v Speaker 5>actress as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she thought, oh, thank god, she's funny, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they because they knew me, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>because Charlotte had such an earnestness, yes, which played to

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<v Speaker 1>my strengths, yes, right, so that I could. I always

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<v Speaker 1>knew as Charlotte that the way to make Charlotte funny

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<v Speaker 1>was to really have deep feelings, to really invest, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is something that I think some young actors

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes don't understand, Like they want to play it cool,

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<v Speaker 1>but cool is not really funny, right, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that following the truth, which I think is

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<v Speaker 3>what you're saying, and in terms of what's happening in

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<v Speaker 3>the emotions and really believing it and then kind of

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<v Speaker 3>it's like you turn the dial up one more thing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's not extreme, but it's enough to just people go,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, that's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, thank you, thank you that little extra. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've always admired that, and I think we

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<v Speaker 1>had it together so well, like we were so well.

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<v Speaker 2>It was super dry, right, very you know you were

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<v Speaker 2>super dry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not super dry, do what I mean. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it works, right, Yeah, When I watch us, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of amazed, like I don't know, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>had amazing coasters. Obviously, Evan's amazing, you know who came later,

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<v Speaker 1>such a great actors, But like the ease, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I have a different thing with him. And

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it's been forever that we've worked together, where like

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of just know what each other's going to

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<v Speaker 1>do in that way, and I didn't really feel that

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<v Speaker 1>way with you, Like I wasn't quite sure what you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to do in an exciting way, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>in a way where you're like there right right. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also think because the relationship was written so unusually

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<v Speaker 1>like that, it's not something that we've really seen before

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<v Speaker 1>or since. Yeah, right, And I think that's partly why.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just going to leap in here because it's

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<v Speaker 1>on my mind partly why you didn't want to come

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<v Speaker 1>on and just like that and wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it was partly that, yeah, because I feel when

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<v Speaker 3>they came and presented an idea and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I get I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so kind of a one joke idea. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, and I really felt I.

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<v Speaker 3>Felt like we had invested so much in this relationship

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<v Speaker 3>and and I think culminating in that moment when I

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<v Speaker 3>actually return and we do the photo because it's important

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<v Speaker 3>to you so sweet. Yeah, and I felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's more here than that, and I and I

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<v Speaker 3>was just like, and I felt I felt like because

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<v Speaker 3>it would have been fun to come back. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we just really wanted I know I was, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, this would have been great. Yeah, But I

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<v Speaker 3>just felt like and so I kind of, you know, said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'd love to hear an idea. Not to

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<v Speaker 3>insinuate myself into the show, but let's have a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of episodes or something or something.

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<v Speaker 1>That has, I agree, a beginning, middle, and an end,

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<v Speaker 1>not just like putting a correct finished like this is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is I could put. Yeah, I agree, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw you at the party, I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>I started at the party because I was so sad

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<v Speaker 1>that she didn't come back. I was like, oy said no,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like what, And of course I didn't hear anymore, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I just heard that you said, right, So then I

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<v Speaker 1>observe what I saw you because it didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also feel like people like because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>ever rewatching right, because I felt like, well, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going to live in the past if I just watch

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<v Speaker 1>the show all the time. Right, So now I have

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<v Speaker 1>a job where I get to rewatch the show, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fun. And it's also fun because people talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me about it all the time, and people talk about

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<v Speaker 1>us in a very interesting way, which is not that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't love Harry. They do. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>people feel like that was the right thing for Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's also like whenever I anything comes

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<v Speaker 1>up and I put it on social media, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember what I put on. I must have been a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast related thing. But people start in the comments like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you shouldn't have given up on Trey or

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, and then other people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are like, of course, cardboard baby, it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby is a problem because then I think I put

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<v Speaker 1>like I can't really remember, and I still can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>every detail because there was kind of a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a lot going on there.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it was kind of a blur to the

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<v Speaker 3>end and then we you know, we went through kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the difficulties, and then then there was then there

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<v Speaker 3>was too much you know what I mean, which people

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<v Speaker 3>forget about that, and then and then and then it

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<v Speaker 3>sort of ended. And I think in some ways, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I've never asked anyone. I said, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like they had to end it somehow, right, and they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Point, well, because I think everything had gone off the

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<v Speaker 1>track of the plan when you showed up. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>plan also and I don't know if you knew this,

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<v Speaker 1>remember the boat that we go on this boat with Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica and Chris. Yeah, I had forgotten that scene until

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it, and then I remembered that the original

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<v Speaker 1>idea was that you were going to be like a

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<v Speaker 1>dud and that everyone was going to be born in general,

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<v Speaker 1>in general, a short version of Trey was that Tray

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't interesting. That Tray looked perfect, right, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scenario was perfect, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like the side exactly right.

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<v Speaker 6>So you came that's the plan change, right, And obviously

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I'm in that scene and you're You're telling

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<v Speaker 6>the story of us meeting, and Carrie's like, I've already

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<v Speaker 6>heard this story three times, you know, on the voiceover, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and you're telling it and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just laughing. I just think it's the best thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the original idea was that you it would be

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<v Speaker 1>like that couple that's super boring together and that everyone

0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:28.480
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh God, who's going to go talk to

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<v Speaker 1>the new husband? Right, No one was to be stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in a corner with the husband who's going to like

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<v Speaker 1>jack your ear off about some boring something, right. But

0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.800
<v Speaker 1>then you were you, and so it didn't really work okay, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it kind of worked like that. We were

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<v Speaker 1>an annoying new.

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<v Speaker 2>Couple, do you know what I mean? Like most new

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:48.840
<v Speaker 2>couples are pretty annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And I'm just giggling at everything you say, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like yeah, and then you know, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little over the top, and she's like, oh god, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but we couldn't. That didn't last. But that had been

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<v Speaker 1>the original I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know, interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it was. I think it just had to go

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<v Speaker 1>out the window when you showed up and they had

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<v Speaker 1>to shift.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I had to figure out and then they

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<v Speaker 2>had to figure out kind of how to end it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which and I still to this day because I said,

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<v Speaker 3>what's why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I

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<v Speaker 3>was literally I was like, this doesn't track for me

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<v Speaker 3>at all. But I said, I understand it from the outside, like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, he's like so off track whatever, Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>he thinks that this is acceptable. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>do I do I play it that I'm clueless? And

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm not clueless, or do I play it

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm deliberately trying to end it and being so

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<v Speaker 3>kind of cruel?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Do I play that?

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<v Speaker 1>Did? They say?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, No, this isn't me thinking to myself, how I

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<v Speaker 2>make this work?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Would you do?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 3>I finally just kind of didn't make any choice at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I just kind of just said cardboard baby, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just said, oh, well, the it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it's going to be. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be so outrageous.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, people are going to have any number of

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<v Speaker 3>reactions to it, and I didn't really.

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<v Speaker 2>Know how to place it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know, but I thought because in general,

0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't get that far last night because I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I will be up all night watching the Show's.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it would have been amazing, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>be very, very tired right now and probably not making

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<v Speaker 1>full sentences. And I always tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Work as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, he's not that far away. I could

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<v Speaker 1>maybe make him come back. That's what I thought, But

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<v Speaker 1>I I think that what I think that the idea,

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<v Speaker 1>at least from my understanding, And I also think about

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<v Speaker 1>this in retrospect, like I wasn't I was. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember how old I was at this point, like mid thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>All my friends hadn't started doing the fertility stuff yet

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<v Speaker 1>later on they all did, right, And I thought, Oh,

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I do not know if I play this like right?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what I mean?

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Because you remember like I'm trying and I want to try,

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, I'm tired, I don't want to try

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<v Speaker 1>anymore and I want to play golf. That's what I

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.040
<v Speaker 1>remember as being the end. Do you know what I mean?

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm like, that's very funny.

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was painful and also exactly the Carpoord

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.919
<v Speaker 1>Baby I felt like was like a I felt like

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Trey was trying to be funny like to like in

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 1>a weird way, like I'm just going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>make light of this because I don't know what else

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<v Speaker 1>to do, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know what I mean?

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Because at that point we were not on the same

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:30.879
<v Speaker 1>and we were not on the same track, and you

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:32.719
<v Speaker 1>were just like, I'm going to hope that I can

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>make this joke and that we can get on with

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>it and just live a happy life. That's kind of

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 1>what you wanted. And I mean I have known couples

0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:43.199
<v Speaker 1>where the woman is just so like you know, the

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 1>baby thing can be all consuming, right, like fully all consuming,

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>almost to the detriment of the relationship, you know, right,

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>like you get like it's in your bones or whatever

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.679
<v Speaker 1>that you have to continue, do you I mean, even though

0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 1>it's hell right like hell on earth. I mean we

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>probably all have friends have gone through this. I certainly have,

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and the guys just like miserable and so miserable for

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the woman, do you know what I mean? But there's

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>nothing you can really do, right like once you've gone

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to the science, you know what I mean. And I

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's kind of what they wrote. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think also because I have talked to our women writers

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and I've said, like I don't know if I really

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 1>like I might have needed to be even more crazy

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 1>than I.

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Was because of all the hormones and everything.

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, how deep it can go, you know what I mean?

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>They were like no, no, no, you did great, because I

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>also think part of them they didn't want us to

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<v Speaker 1>really go right. Do you know what I'm saying? Into

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>a drama, like a hardcore drama of baby making with science.

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's that's the tone of you know, following

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 3>the tone of the show, which is really important that

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 3>it's you know that there's there's humor in fun and

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 3>there's like a little bit of a sadness here. We're

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 3>a bitsweet and then you know, pop out into the humor.

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 3>So just't dwell in that area, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think also dwelling in the IVF area is

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>just like it's like a whole other sh Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And how do you treat that with some humor because

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 2>it's really.

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard. No, it's pretty serious and art. Right.

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that the idea was that Charlotte's down that

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 1>road and fully fully committed, and you're just like I can't,

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just can't. That's what I thought it was,

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and that's just so disappointing for her.

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Well it's also hard for me just as a person

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 3>because I've always I always feel myself as I'm very supportive,

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 3>you know. Just but but this would not have been

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 3>that I would not have been playing that side.

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.120
<v Speaker 1>And because then it would have probably worked out, you.

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean. And then yeah, and then we'd

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 2>still be on the show.

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Well then you went on, you left us, you went

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 1>on to do The Housewives.

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I entered another world.

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, see there a long time I was, well, here's

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 3>the story on that. I was brought in the first

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 3>season to be the kind of the every season there's

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 3>the one, you know, person that the killer, the murder

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, you know. Yeah, and so they brought me

0:25:56.440 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 3>in and Mark Cherry, the creator, was saying, you know,

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 3>here's the kind of here's the arc, and you know

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 3>you're going to end up, you know, obviously being being

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 3>the killer at.

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<v Speaker 1>The end, rightway.

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I was like okay, and I got in

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 3>and I started working where we were a couple episodes in,

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 3>who are three episodes four?

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 2>It?

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 3>So you know, you can tell pretty early on how

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 3>it's going, you know, whether you feel great, comfortable and

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 3>this is wonderful.

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or it's kind of like.

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<v Speaker 3>I really I don't want to get out of here,

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's not worth And I was like, I

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 3>went to Mark, I said early on and I said,

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 3>hey man, I'm just I'm having such a great time here.

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 3>I love working with Marsha, I love everything. I love

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 3>the fact that it's ten minutes from my house.

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say that, but it was like super convenient.

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 3>That was just like, you know, any chance that maybe

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 3>talk to the writers are considered maybe keeping me around

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 3>for a little bit longer. I didn't specify, just asked,

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, I said, what's the harm, right, And he

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 3>sort of looked at me and he said, let me,

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 3>let me, let me uh, let me go talk to

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 3>everybody and see what they think. And he came back

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 3>not long and said, we've got an idea. And they

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 3>brought in Dixie Carter. She was my mom, another another

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 3>one of those, and she was actually the mastermind and

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 3>so she became the villain. Smart yeah, And I was like,

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:12.640
<v Speaker 3>that's so clever because it added another layer, unexpected layer,

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 3>so then I could be potentially I was going to

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.239
<v Speaker 3>be the color but then it sort of fell to her,

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 3>so it actually worked out.

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Interesting and and that was this.

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 3>I started was on the second season or third season,

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.239
<v Speaker 3>second I think a second season, and then and then

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 3>we went.

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I went for another like six years. I know.

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 1>When I looked at the dates, I was like, ha ha.

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 2>How well they ultimately ran out of stuff. It was

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 2>one of those things.

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, the storylines revolve around around the women, of course,

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 3>and so that was the most important, and we and

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 3>the men would sort of feed into the stories, right.

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>But they couldn't. At a certain point time. They were

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 2>like Jesus, what are we going to do with this guy?

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's like stealing things and he's running around

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 2>doing you know, they have you do crazy things.

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 3>It's one of the scary things about it is one

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 3>of the scary things about television about getting a script

0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 3>week to week.

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you have this experiences, well, but.

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>On Meloe's Place, I totally had this experience.

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, next script, it arrives and you see it on

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 3>your desk and you look at it and you're like,

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 3>oh boy, okay, and you open that first page and

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 3>as you kind of look at it, like this because

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:14.679
<v Speaker 3>you don't know what they're going to ask you to

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 3>do totally.

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Are you going to be naked or are you going

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 2>to be clothes? Are you going to kill someone You're

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 2>going to kill you emotional breakdown totally page seventeens or

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 2>you know what are they going to have you do?

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>And I was always a lot of trepidation.

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I get it, Melros. That's how it was

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>for me big time, because Darren brought me in and

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>then Darren left, And once Darren left, he thought that

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>my character was a little bit funny. But then he

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>left and they were like, we're just going to make

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>her really mean and the villain and then crazy, and

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>then I mean I was just like, oh my Jesus God.

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>And then they were like, now you're going to die.

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>And I was like okay.

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was.

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Upset because I was young, but I was like, yeah,

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I see, I see that. Because you don't know what

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to do.

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a it's a it's a double edged sword.

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>You have a job. We're so grateful we're working. I

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 2>mean it's fantastic. Yeah, time we have no control and

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>you have to try to make it work, and you have.

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>To make sometimes it just doesn't make sense.

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 2>You're just like a cardboard baby.

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Totally. That's funny that you felt that, because I didn't

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>know that you felt that.

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just trying to wrestle with it.

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Ultimately the choice that you said, which is he's trying

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 3>to make fun of something, but I said, see that,

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 3>I was just I was rankling at the cluelessness.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time I recognized, Hey, they need

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 3>the end to somehow. Why not we'll go out with

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 3>a with this because it's so it's so unfeeling.

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things where I have like crystal

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>crystal clear memory, Like I remember reading you, meeting you

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>at the read through. Do you remember meeting me at

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the read through?

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 3>But I remember rescuing rescuing you that first scene in

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>the taxi cab, Yes, that scene the street.

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so good.

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>It's so good. It really holds up. It's so exciting.

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Ye like that it was shot and everything about it.

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>It looked so much like a film, and I think

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>it was Alison Andrews directed. Can anyone check wow? If right?

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>That's good?

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I know. But also, do you remember Charles McDougall who

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>directed the Tiffany's and he's so brilliant. And one of

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the things that I'd love to look at when I

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>look back at the show is the kind of evolution

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>of the visuals because we really started out quite simply,

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, because remember we used to have people talking

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>to camera, break the fourth wall. It was very kind

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>of like a reportage, you know, like on the streets,

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, very unassuming in terms of like the shots,

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, just straightforward. And then it gets better and

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>better and better. We start getting the sopranos directors coming

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in and her dollying through the rooms, you know, then

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>we get Alison Is. It was Alison Alison Anders.

0:30:58.680 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember her.

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Be like, baby, good job, let's just do it again.

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>She's like so warm, like commable and comfortable. But also

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>she was like very indie film maker, so she had

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a edge in her the way she

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>filmed things, which is what I liked about because I'm

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>with that husband of my friend, because I've gone to

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the married people. I've basically said in that episode, which

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>we could talk about when we get to it, but

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I've said to the girls at the table, like without apology,

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I've been like, I'm not going to be seeing you

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>guys as much because I have to go hang out

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>with my married friends, which is so rude. I'm like,

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte gosh. And they're like, oh okay, They're like, wait,

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>how does that help you find a husband? And I say,

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>because they know people. The husband's know nice guys, and

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you have to meet the husband's friends. So then I

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>go to the friend of my husband who you've you've

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>never seen these people before, right, like now with social

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>media the way they dissected and just like that. Sometimes

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>when I'm looking at Sex and the City, I'm like,

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>see they would complain about that.

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 2>People know everything.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 3>My god, Yeah, it's tween peaks And I'm like, I

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 3>don't even remember doing that, you know exactly, And I'm like,

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 3>what I know.

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>But I mean like it's it's kind of impossible in

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a way to withstand. Yeah, you know anyway, like when

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I look back at like also, Miranda has a cat

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>and previously she never had a cat, and then Steve

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>gets a dog, and then Miranda has a cat and

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Steve has a dog, and they they there's no mention.

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>It's really odd. Do you mean that the cat is

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>going to be important because she's going to have the

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to die learned and the Cat's going to

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>eat my face storyline. So I can see that they're

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>prepping the next storyline. But like nowadays, if you did that,

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the internet would be up in arms. Like Miranda never

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>had a cat. Where did that cat coming from? It

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, But back then, we just did it every week.

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>We just did our stuff. You didn't worry about it.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Now. That was the beauty of it.

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 3>And I think, you know, going back to speak about

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 3>the directors, and each one was different and brings a

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 3>different sensibility and different energy on set and a different

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 3>really a different style, which was and the show was

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 3>strong enough to handle all these different interpretations. They completely interpretations,

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 3>but the kind of you know, yeah, the way the

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 3>way the camera was used, and it's such a fun thing.

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 3>I remember on twenty Peaks the same thing that they

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 3>would bring into guest directors and they always had a

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 3>different kind of a different take on things, a different rhythm,

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 3>different energy, and it was always interesting. I remember Uliadel

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 3>came in and directed the Amazing at that time, and

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 3>I initially was sort of rankling at him, and then

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I sort of settled in and relaxed, and he said,

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know, he's actually because there's always that moment that

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 3>first day we're like, you know, to trust.

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Not sure.

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, am I going to let you sort of in here?

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 3>Or am I going to like do my own thing?

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>And also think as actors, you have to have the

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:44.479
<v Speaker 1>ability to do that.

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 2>You have to express yourself and tell what you need

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>and what's feeling. And this is important to you, you.

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Know, right, And cut to when we do the Tiffany's

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>when so we go, I had forgotten about the whole dinner,

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. I go to have tea with you and Bunny,

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and Franny is just so unbelievably great, just so great,

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and she keeps putting her hand on you and trying

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to basically tell you that you don't know what you're

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 1>doing or whatever, and you need to do what she's saying.

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>And then you go, alrighty, and I see I clocked

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing. So then we go out to dinner

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and I've been telling the girls like, oh, he's gonna propose.

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I can tell I can feel it. This is the one,

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>this is it. And I do believe that Charlotte one

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent means that, like, it's not just her wanting

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>to get married, like you are it, you know what

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like, there's no there's no like I'm making

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>this happen. That it really happened for her, you know

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And I feel like that's that moment

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>when you pick me up off the street, you know,

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and that's why they did it so beautifully.

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>So we're there with Franny right and I'm like, hmm,

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>she gets him to do what she wants. That's so interesting.

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And then we're dinner whatever I can't remember closure some

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>restaurant and you don't like your salad, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and I put my I try it. I'm like, I'm

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>going to try it. And I put my hand on

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you and I say, you know, maybe you should try

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, the tomato and mozzarella or whatever, and you're

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.479
<v Speaker 1>like alrighty. And I'm like, oh my god, it wor

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and I think there's some voiceover Mary, and then I

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>just barrel right in there and I say I think

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>we should get married, and without a doubt, You're just

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>like alrighty and you look away and then I'm like oh,

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>And then I go to carry and I kind of

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I didn't love my performance in this scene.

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I remember being stressed about it at the time, and

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember if it was Alison or if it's McDougall.

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it might be Alison. I don't know that

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>she is. The Thing with Charlotte that I think was

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>hard is that her stakes are so high for everything

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that you don't know how to modulate the scenes sometimes.

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 1>And I know sometimes even with them just like that,

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I would read it on the page and I

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.720
<v Speaker 1>would think, like, you know, this is like a regular

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>group scene where Charlotte's just asking some questions. And then

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd get there and Michael Patrick would be like, yell

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 1>at her, and I'd be like, okay, yeah, I'm like, oh,

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand. He said, you are the voice of

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>reason in this scene and she's being insane, she's blowing

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>up her marriage. You've got to yell at her. I

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I've got to yell at Miranda. Oh

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.879
<v Speaker 1>my god. But I would and he would be right, right,

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>But like sometimes it's hard to know, like because she's

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>so committed to all the things that she believes, you know,

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and loves. Right, we don't know which is like one

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent, which is one hundred and fifty percent, which

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is fifty percent. Right, So that scene with Carrie would

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I go and I'm like all shocked. I'm like playing shock,

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 1>which is also kind of hard for a whole scene, right,

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>And I've got my eyes are all like super big,

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like I proposed to myself, you know, like that, right,

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, oh baby, you know she's very motherly,

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>which is sweet, and like there was no ring and

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>he didn't get down on his knees or anything. What

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>did I do?

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I think I've ruined like my one and only

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 1>moment moment, right, which I kind of did because I'm

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>so like hell ben on this happening. Then the payoff

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>comes the next episode, which is when McDougall directed. And

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember, he would put the

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 1>camera like blocks away we're on for the avenue, yes,

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember. We don't even know if we're in, yeah,

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's real people.

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Are walking by. We're there trying to do a little.

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Scene totally and he's like, just just walk, it'll be fine.

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>He's British. I didn't do his accent well, but he's like,

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 1>just just walk it'll be good. And we're like, I'm like, oh,

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 1>but I need to know my mark. And you were

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>cool as a cucumber, having been through you know, been

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>in all the films, You've been in everything. Okay, but

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you well you are pretending very well. But it was

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>really so great because we walked down and I've got

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the little bow and I've got kind of the Audrey

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Heppern asked Cardo, and we walked down to the corner

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of Tiffany's and somehow you just sense that I'm upset.

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like pouting, and then we get to the window

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's so beautifully framed. They go inside and they

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>frame us in the window and you say, you know,

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>how about we go in there and get you the

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>best engagement ring there is. And I'm like, it was

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>so good.

0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 2>That's what.

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 3>And also I'm just remembering shooting on the York shooting

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 3>in the streets of New York.

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really it's special. I've never done that before.

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I've been there for we've.

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Done the Doors and we'd come to New York for that,

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 3>but that was interior and you really weren't really in

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 3>the city, but Sex and the City really really used

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 3>the city and really showed the city.

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 2>So so well.

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree so well, especially in the olden

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:24.240
<v Speaker 1>days because we were we had not enough time, so

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>we would like take the lights and like roll them

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>down the street. Do you remember this. It was like

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of gorilla ish filmmaking. But then by the time

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Charles came, because Charles would do like we also shot

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 1>in Burgdorf with the china and we had to flip

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the china and he had a crane in Burgdorf and

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>we had like thirty six takes of the crane shot

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to flip the china, which was insane, and like at

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a certain point the HBO guy would come and like

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>lart us, like, you guys are over budget.

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Charles was definitely OCD. It was one of them.

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 3>It's got to be perfect, it's pretty close. But he

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 3>was just so talented.

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I was always like the man say, yeah, it's great, God,

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 1>so did I but.

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 2>So cool, so cool, so so.

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And he always wore suits, very posh, very posh. We

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>were lucky to have him. All Right, Kyle, you're too

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 1>much fun. We're going to have to keep talking. Can

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>we come back and do Part two Pleasure fantastic. All Right,

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you guys come back later in the week and we're

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>going to continue on talking about train and Charlotte moments

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and how we remember them. Yes right, all right, thank

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you Kyle,