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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? So today everybody is a special special

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Speaker 1: day on Are you a Charlotte? The one and only

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Speaker 1: Kyle McLaughlin is here joining us to talk everything Tray

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Speaker 1: and Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: I brought the cardboard baby, it's just outside. Allowed so

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Speaker 2: happy to be here. Thank you for having me on,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being here to get into everything.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun conversation you guys. Kyle has an amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing style and home day Corps.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: I got some really good advice from Kyle back in

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Speaker 1: the day.

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Speaker 2: Remind me what I said to you.

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Speaker 1: I had a really really old apartment Upper West Side,

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Speaker 1: pre war and yeah, and you and I said, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, there's like wires coming out of the walls,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. And you said, you need an

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Speaker 1: alibat sconce that's the time, and this is where you

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Speaker 1: go to get it. And I still have them. I

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Speaker 1: love them. I don't have anywhere to put them now.

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Speaker 1: You still have them, you say, because they're gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a beautiful light that comes out of there.

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Speaker 1: Very fat, very flattery, very warm, light, warm.

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Speaker 2: And sauce, I know makes us look good like the lighting.

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Speaker 1: You have hairs warm, and I know I feel strongly

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Speaker 1: about lighting.

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Speaker 3: It's important, right, oh my god. And the older we

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Speaker 3: get more important, it becomes right. Yeah, that's what I

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Speaker 3: love about your hair. I think your hair.

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Speaker 1: Is kind of like creating like a beautiful halo around

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Speaker 1: your face.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. I'm glad I have it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you still have a ton of it, a lot of hair.

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Speaker 2: It's a little different color.

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Speaker 1: I know, But wasn't it that color then too?

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Speaker 2: And you were I've been coloring my hair for oh.

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Speaker 2: I started going gray in my twenties.

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Speaker 1: She's so crazy hereditary.

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Speaker 2: She was totally gray in college. Wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And did she just wear it?

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Speaker 2: Well, my mom.

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Speaker 3: Changed her look any many times, so she you know,

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Speaker 3: she colored her hair and then she had a wig

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Speaker 3: phase and then oh yeah, the whole thing it was.

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Speaker 3: It was the sixties and seventies. It was all about that,

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Speaker 3: you know. It was kind of upstyle blonde.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: She was very very in the small town of Yakama.

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Speaker 3: She was very fashion amazing. I guess fashion aware, not

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Speaker 3: ye a fashion forward, necessarily fashion.

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Speaker 1: That would be hard in Yakama.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: But I remember at the time that we were on

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Speaker 1: the show, we would talk about your hair and how like,

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Speaker 1: would you ever be able to just be your natural

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Speaker 1: gray self?

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Speaker 2: Now you are and now I love it. It's happy

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Speaker 2: I gave up and you're embracing it. I think it's

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Speaker 2: to thank you.

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Speaker 1: And went walked in the Vogue World.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, the other night that was really fun?

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Speaker 2: That was really fun? Yeah? It was.

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Speaker 3: I mean Bazi Lhrman did the whole thing and it

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Speaker 3: was just so beautifully realized, I thought, and a nice

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Speaker 3: a meshing of fashion and the fashion world of course

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Speaker 3: And it was huge, big, so big, over one hundred

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Speaker 3: and forty people walking in the show.

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Speaker 3: I mean I heard makeup room alone. It wasn't even

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Speaker 3: a room, it was a They had a sound stage.

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Speaker 3: Wow filled, Wow, it was wild.

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Speaker 1: Did you film it?

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Speaker 2: I did a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: I felt a little like not uncomfortable, but like, oh,

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Speaker 2: So I did it kind of wide and sort of vague.

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Speaker 1: But that's interesting. I think that's really interesting. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: You just walked down the street really yes on paramount. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you just walked down and there's people from other side.

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Speaker 3: They're cheering you on, like, okay, that's okay, very positive fun.

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Speaker 1: I think you're very You've walked in shows before and things.

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Speaker 1: You've done a lot of things I have not done.

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Speaker 2: Feel like you're the time is now.

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Speaker 1: Well, the time is now, for sure. But also I

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Speaker 1: think you have to know your like your wheelhouse or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's mine.

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Speaker 2: Oh I would I would not discount that at all.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's very real, perfect, thank you. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel I feel like you have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like all of that and have been able

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Speaker 3: oh for like over twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of the makeup and hair people that I remember,

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Speaker 3: and and the Winter was there, and it's nice to

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's go back in time.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back in time. Do we need to do

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Speaker 3: anything special? Is there a music cue?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Do we?

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Speaker 1: We're a low fie. We're a little fie. We just

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Speaker 1: go back in our minds.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: Just come with me as much as much as you can.

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Speaker 1: There's your coffee that's going to help.

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Speaker 2: This is going to help me go back in time,

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Speaker 2: fuel the memories to tell you that right now.

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Speaker 1: I do think there was a lot of coffee going

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Speaker 1: All night, Oh my gosh, all the time, right.

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Speaker 2: And it was mostly you and me.

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Speaker 3: That's some people ask me to say, hey, what was

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't know. I worked with

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Speaker 3: I'm somebody else walking around. John Corporate would be there

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Speaker 3: and it's pink slippers and slippers and whatever.

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Speaker 2: Bathrob you had on. You know, you're up. You know,

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Speaker 2: that was kind of the way it was.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I did remember too, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about when you first came, but

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Speaker 1: but what I did remember because I was watching last night,

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Speaker 1: right because you were coming. And I try I do

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Speaker 1: I haven't rewatched these things in thirty years, right, so

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Speaker 3: At the time, I thought I thought the one of

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Speaker 3: say the conceit of what was happening was funny and embarrassing,

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Speaker 1: And I think so too, non judge, non judgy.

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Speaker 2: That's which I really which I really appreciate.

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Speaker 1: Definitely. Did they tell you when you came, because this

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Speaker 1: a picnic one weekend and met you. Do you remember this?

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Speaker 2: I can't remember a picnic.

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Speaker 1: You red picnic, I don't know. He comes to work

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Speaker 1: That was how it happened. I said, well, what how

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Speaker 1: what happened? He said, I went to this picnic and

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Speaker 1: And do you not remember this?

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Speaker 3: do remember the meeting that I had with me and

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Speaker 3: Jenny Bicks.

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Speaker 1: Oh got it. So you did have an official meeting.

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Speaker 2: We did, Okay, we did.

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Speaker 1: What did they say to you?

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing that stand out or stood out to me,

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is perfect, I said, because I've

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Speaker 3: forget about that, and then and then and then it

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00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 3: sort of ended. And I think in some ways, and

440
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 3: I don't I've never asked anyone. I said, I feel

441
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,199
Speaker 3: like they had to end it somehow, right, and they

442
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,719
Speaker 3: didn't know.

443
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,320
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a good.

444
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,639
Speaker 1: Point, well, because I think everything had gone off the

445
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 1: track of the plan when you showed up. Because the

446
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,479
Speaker 1: plan also and I don't know if you knew this,

447
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 1: remember the boat that we go on this boat with Sarah,

448
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 1: Jessica and Chris. Yeah, I had forgotten that scene until

449
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 1: I watched it, and then I remembered that the original

450
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 1: idea was that you were going to be like a

451
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 1: dud and that everyone was going to be born in general,

452
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 1: in general, a short version of Trey was that Tray

453
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: wasn't interesting. That Tray looked perfect, right, and it was

454
00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 1: kind of scenario was perfect, you know what I mean,

455
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 1: like the side exactly right.

456
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 6: So you came that's the plan change, right, And obviously

457
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 6: I mean I'm in that scene and you're You're telling

458
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 6: the story of us meeting, and Carrie's like, I've already

459
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,360
Speaker 6: heard this story three times, you know, on the voiceover, right,

460
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 6: and you're telling it and.

461
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm just laughing. I just think it's the best thing.

462
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 1: But the original idea was that you it would be

463
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,679
Speaker 1: like that couple that's super boring together and that everyone

464
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: is like, oh God, who's going to go talk to

465
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 1: the new husband? Right, No one was to be stuck

466
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 1: in a corner with the husband who's going to like

467
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 1: jack your ear off about some boring something, right. But

468
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: then you were you, and so it didn't really work okay, right,

469
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of worked like that. We were

470
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 1: an annoying new.

471
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 2: Couple, do you know what I mean? Like most new

472
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 2: couples are pretty annoying.

473
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 1: Right, And I'm just giggling at everything you say, and

474
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm just like yeah, and then you know, like it's

475
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: a little over the top, and she's like, oh god, right,

476
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,479
Speaker 1: but we couldn't. That didn't last. But that had been

477
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: the original I didn't know.

478
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: I didn't know, interesting.

479
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 1: Well it was. I think it just had to go

480
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 1: out the window when you showed up and they had

481
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: to shift.

482
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I had to figure out and then they

483
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 2: had to figure out kind of how to end it.

484
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, which and I still to this day because I said,

485
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 3: what's why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I

486
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 3: was literally I was like, this doesn't track for me

487
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 3: at all. But I said, I understand it from the outside, like,

488
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 3: oh yeah, he's like so off track whatever, Yeah, that

489
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 3: he thinks that this is acceptable. And I said, well,

490
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 3: do I do I play it that I'm clueless? And

491
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 3: I said, I'm not clueless, or do I play it

492
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 3: that I'm deliberately trying to end it and being so

493
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: kind of cruel?

494
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 2: Oh? Do I play that?

495
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: Did? They say?

496
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: Yes, No, this isn't me thinking to myself, how I

497
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 2: make this work?

498
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: Yeah? Would you do?

499
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: So?

500
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 3: I finally just kind of didn't make any choice at all.

501
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 3: I just kind of just said cardboard baby, and I

502
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: just said, oh, well, the it's going to be.

503
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's going to be. It's going

504
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: to be so outrageous.

505
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: I said, people are going to have any number of

506
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 3: reactions to it, and I didn't really.

507
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: Know how to place it.

508
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, but I thought because in general,

509
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: and I didn't get that far last night because I

510
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: was like, I will be up all night watching the Show's.

511
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: Amazing, right.

512
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: I know it would have been amazing, but I would

513
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: be very, very tired right now and probably not making

514
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: full sentences. And I always tough.

515
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: Work as well.

516
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: I was like, he's not that far away. I could

517
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: maybe make him come back. That's what I thought, But

518
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: I I think that what I think that the idea,

519
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: at least from my understanding, And I also think about

520
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: this in retrospect, like I wasn't I was. I can't

521
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: remember how old I was at this point, like mid thirties.

522
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: All my friends hadn't started doing the fertility stuff yet

523
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: later on they all did, right, And I thought, Oh,

524
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: I do not know if I play this like right?

525
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 2: Oh you know what I mean?

526
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: Because you remember like I'm trying and I want to try,

527
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm tired, I don't want to try

528
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: anymore and I want to play golf. That's what I

529
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: remember as being the end. Do you know what I mean?

530
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 2: Because I'm like, that's very funny.

531
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it was painful and also exactly the Carpoord

532
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: Baby I felt like was like a I felt like

533
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: Trey was trying to be funny like to like in

534
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: a weird way, like I'm just going to try to

535
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: make light of this because I don't know what else

536
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: to do, you.

537
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 5: Know what I mean?

538
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: Because at that point we were not on the same

539
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: and we were not on the same track, and you

540
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 1: were just like, I'm going to hope that I can

541
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: make this joke and that we can get on with

542
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: it and just live a happy life. That's kind of

543
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: what you wanted. And I mean I have known couples

544
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: where the woman is just so like you know, the

545
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: baby thing can be all consuming, right, like fully all consuming,

546
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: almost to the detriment of the relationship, you know, right,

547
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: like you get like it's in your bones or whatever

548
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: that you have to continue, do you I mean, even though

549
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: it's hell right like hell on earth. I mean we

550
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: probably all have friends have gone through this. I certainly have,

551
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: and the guys just like miserable and so miserable for

552
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: the woman, do you know what I mean? But there's

553
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: nothing you can really do, right like once you've gone

554
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: to the science, you know what I mean. And I

555
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: feel like that's kind of what they wrote. But I

556
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: think also because I have talked to our women writers

557
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: and I've said, like I don't know if I really

558
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: like I might have needed to be even more crazy

559
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: than I.

560
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: Was because of all the hormones and everything.

561
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: Yes, how deep it can go, you know what I mean?

562
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: They were like no, no, no, you did great, because I

563
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: also think part of them they didn't want us to

564
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: really go right. Do you know what I'm saying? Into

565
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: a drama, like a hardcore drama of baby making with science.

566
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

567
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's the tone of you know, following

568
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: the tone of the show, which is really important that

569
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: it's you know that there's there's humor in fun and

570
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: there's like a little bit of a sadness here. We're

571
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: a bitsweet and then you know, pop out into the humor.

572
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: So just't dwell in that area, right.

573
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: And I think also dwelling in the IVF area is

574
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: just like it's like a whole other sh Yeah.

575
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 2: And how do you treat that with some humor because

576
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: it's really.

577
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: It's really hard. No, it's pretty serious and art. Right.

578
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: I think that the idea was that Charlotte's down that

579
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: road and fully fully committed, and you're just like I can't,

580
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, I just can't. That's what I thought it was,

581
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: and that's just so disappointing for her.

582
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: Well it's also hard for me just as a person

583
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: because I've always I always feel myself as I'm very supportive,

584
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: you know. Just but but this would not have been

585
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: that I would not have been playing that side.

586
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: And because then it would have probably worked out, you.

587
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. And then yeah, and then we'd

588
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: still be on the show.

589
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Well then you went on, you left us, you went

590
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: on to do The Housewives.

591
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I entered another world.

592
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, see there a long time I was, well, here's

593
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: the story on that. I was brought in the first

594
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 3: season to be the kind of the every season there's

595
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: the one, you know, person that the killer, the murder

596
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: or whatever, you know. Yeah, and so they brought me

597
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: in and Mark Cherry, the creator, was saying, you know,

598
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: here's the kind of here's the arc, and you know

599
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: you're going to end up, you know, obviously being being

600
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: the killer at.

601
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: The end, rightway.

602
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like okay, and I got in

603
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: and I started working where we were a couple episodes in,

604
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: who are three episodes four?

605
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 2: It?

606
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: So you know, you can tell pretty early on how

607
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 3: it's going, you know, whether you feel great, comfortable and

608
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: this is wonderful.

609
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, or it's kind of like.

610
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: I really I don't want to get out of here,

611
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, it's not worth And I was like, I

612
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: went to Mark, I said early on and I said,

613
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 3: hey man, I'm just I'm having such a great time here.

614
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: I love working with Marsha, I love everything. I love

615
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: the fact that it's ten minutes from my house.

616
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

617
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: I didn't say that, but it was like super convenient.

618
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: That was just like, you know, any chance that maybe

619
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: talk to the writers are considered maybe keeping me around

620
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 3: for a little bit longer. I didn't specify, just asked,

621
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: you know, I said, what's the harm, right, And he

622
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: sort of looked at me and he said, let me,

623
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: let me, let me uh, let me go talk to

624
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: everybody and see what they think. And he came back

625
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: not long and said, we've got an idea. And they

626
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: brought in Dixie Carter. She was my mom, another another

627
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 3: one of those, and she was actually the mastermind and

628
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 3: so she became the villain. Smart yeah, And I was like,

629
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: that's so clever because it added another layer, unexpected layer,

630
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: so then I could be potentially I was going to

631
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 3: be the color but then it sort of fell to her,

632
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: so it actually worked out.

633
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: Interesting and and that was this.

634
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: I started was on the second season or third season,

635
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 3: second I think a second season, and then and then

636
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: we went.

637
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: I went for another like six years. I know.

638
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: When I looked at the dates, I was like, ha ha.

639
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 2: How well they ultimately ran out of stuff. It was

640
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: one of those things.

641
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: You know, the storylines revolve around around the women, of course,

642
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: and so that was the most important, and we and

643
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: the men would sort of feed into the stories, right.

644
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: But they couldn't. At a certain point time. They were

645
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: like Jesus, what are we going to do with this guy?

646
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: You know, he's like stealing things and he's running around

647
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: doing you know, they have you do crazy things.

648
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: It's one of the scary things about it is one

649
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: of the scary things about television about getting a script

650
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: week to week.

651
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you have this experiences, well, but.

652
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: On Meloe's Place, I totally had this experience.

653
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: Okay, next script, it arrives and you see it on

654
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: your desk and you look at it and you're like,

655
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: oh boy, okay, and you open that first page and

656
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: as you kind of look at it, like this because

657
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 3: you don't know what they're going to ask you to

658
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 3: do totally.

659
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: Are you going to be naked or are you going

660
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: to be clothes? Are you going to kill someone You're

661
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: going to kill you emotional breakdown totally page seventeens or

662
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: you know what are they going to have you do?

663
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: Yes?

664
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: And I was always a lot of trepidation.

665
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: You know, I get it, Melros. That's how it was

666
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: for me big time, because Darren brought me in and

667
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: then Darren left, And once Darren left, he thought that

668
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: my character was a little bit funny. But then he

669
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: left and they were like, we're just going to make

670
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: her really mean and the villain and then crazy, and

671
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: then I mean I was just like, oh my Jesus God.

672
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: And then they were like, now you're going to die.

673
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: And I was like okay.

674
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean I was.

675
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: Upset because I was young, but I was like, yeah,

676
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: I see, I see that. Because you don't know what

677
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: to do.

678
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a it's a it's a double edged sword.

679
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: You have a job. We're so grateful we're working. I

680
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: mean it's fantastic. Yeah, time we have no control and

681
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: you have to try to make it work, and you have.

682
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: To make sometimes it just doesn't make sense.

683
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: You're just like a cardboard baby.

684
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: Totally. That's funny that you felt that, because I didn't

685
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: know that you felt that.

686
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just trying to wrestle with it.

687
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: Ultimately the choice that you said, which is he's trying

688
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: to make fun of something, but I said, see that,

689
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: I was just I was rankling at the cluelessness.

690
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: I get it.

691
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: But at the same time I recognized, Hey, they need

692
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: the end to somehow. Why not we'll go out with

693
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: a with this because it's so it's so unfeeling.

694
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things where I have like crystal

695
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: crystal clear memory, Like I remember reading you, meeting you

696
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: at the read through. Do you remember meeting me at

697
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: the read through?

698
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: No?

699
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: But I remember rescuing rescuing you that first scene in

700
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: the taxi cab, Yes, that scene the street.

701
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so good.

702
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: It's so good. It really holds up. It's so exciting.

703
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: Ye like that it was shot and everything about it.

704
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: It looked so much like a film, and I think

705
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: it was Alison Andrews directed. Can anyone check wow? If right?

706
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: That's good?

707
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: I know. But also, do you remember Charles McDougall who

708
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: directed the Tiffany's and he's so brilliant. And one of

709
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: the things that I'd love to look at when I

710
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: look back at the show is the kind of evolution

711
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: of the visuals because we really started out quite simply,

712
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, because remember we used to have people talking

713
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: to camera, break the fourth wall. It was very kind

714
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: of like a reportage, you know, like on the streets,

715
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, very unassuming in terms of like the shots,

716
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, just straightforward. And then it gets better and

717
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: better and better. We start getting the sopranos directors coming

718
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: in and her dollying through the rooms, you know, then

719
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: we get Alison Is. It was Alison Alison Anders.

720
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: Do you remember her.

721
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: Be like, baby, good job, let's just do it again.

722
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: She's like so warm, like commable and comfortable. But also

723
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: she was like very indie film maker, so she had

724
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: a bit of a edge in her the way she

725
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: filmed things, which is what I liked about because I'm

726
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: with that husband of my friend, because I've gone to

727
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: the married people. I've basically said in that episode, which

728
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: we could talk about when we get to it, but

729
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: I've said to the girls at the table, like without apology,

730
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: I've been like, I'm not going to be seeing you

731
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: guys as much because I have to go hang out

732
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: with my married friends, which is so rude. I'm like,

733
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Charlotte gosh. And they're like, oh okay, They're like, wait,

734
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: how does that help you find a husband? And I say,

735
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: because they know people. The husband's know nice guys, and

736
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: you have to meet the husband's friends. So then I

737
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: go to the friend of my husband who you've you've

738
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: never seen these people before, right, like now with social

739
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: media the way they dissected and just like that. Sometimes

740
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: when I'm looking at Sex and the City, I'm like,

741
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: see they would complain about that.

742
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: People know everything.

743
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: My god, Yeah, it's tween peaks And I'm like, I

744
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: don't even remember doing that, you know exactly, And I'm like,

745
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: what I know.

746
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: But I mean like it's it's kind of impossible in

747
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: a way to withstand. Yeah, you know anyway, like when

748
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: I look back at like also, Miranda has a cat

749
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: and previously she never had a cat, and then Steve

750
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: gets a dog, and then Miranda has a cat and

751
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: Steve has a dog, and they they there's no mention.

752
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: It's really odd. Do you mean that the cat is

753
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: going to be important because she's going to have the

754
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to die learned and the Cat's going to

755
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: eat my face storyline. So I can see that they're

756
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: prepping the next storyline. But like nowadays, if you did that,

757
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: the internet would be up in arms. Like Miranda never

758
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: had a cat. Where did that cat coming from? It

759
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: makes sense, But back then, we just did it every week.

760
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: We just did our stuff. You didn't worry about it.

761
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: Now. That was the beauty of it.

762
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, going back to speak about

763
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: the directors, and each one was different and brings a

764
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: different sensibility and different energy on set and a different

765
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: really a different style, which was and the show was

766
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: strong enough to handle all these different interpretations. They completely interpretations,

767
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: but the kind of you know, yeah, the way the

768
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: way the camera was used, and it's such a fun thing.

769
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: I remember on twenty Peaks the same thing that they

770
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: would bring into guest directors and they always had a

771
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: different kind of a different take on things, a different rhythm,

772
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: different energy, and it was always interesting. I remember Uliadel

773
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: came in and directed the Amazing at that time, and

774
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: I initially was sort of rankling at him, and then

775
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: I sort of settled in and relaxed, and he said,

776
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: don't know, he's actually because there's always that moment that

777
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: first day we're like, you know, to trust.

778
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: Not sure.

779
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, am I going to let you sort of in here?

780
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: Or am I going to like do my own thing?

781
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: And also think as actors, you have to have the

782
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 1: ability to do that.

783
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: You have to express yourself and tell what you need

784
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: and what's feeling. And this is important to you, you.

785
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: Know, right, And cut to when we do the Tiffany's

786
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: when so we go, I had forgotten about the whole dinner,

787
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: you know. I go to have tea with you and Bunny,

788
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: and Franny is just so unbelievably great, just so great,

789
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: and she keeps putting her hand on you and trying

790
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: to basically tell you that you don't know what you're

791
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: doing or whatever, and you need to do what she's saying.

792
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: And then you go, alrighty, and I see I clocked

793
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: this whole thing. So then we go out to dinner

794
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: and I've been telling the girls like, oh, he's gonna propose.

795
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: I can tell I can feel it. This is the one,

796
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: this is it. And I do believe that Charlotte one

797
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: hundred percent means that, like, it's not just her wanting

798
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: to get married, like you are it, you know what

799
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, there's no there's no like I'm making

800
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: this happen. That it really happened for her, you know

801
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I feel like that's that moment

802
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: when you pick me up off the street, you know,

803
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: and that's why they did it so beautifully.

804
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

805
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: So we're there with Franny right and I'm like, hmm,

806
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: she gets him to do what she wants. That's so interesting.

807
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: And then we're dinner whatever I can't remember closure some

808
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: restaurant and you don't like your salad, yeah, yeah, yeah,

809
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: and I put my I try it. I'm like, I'm

810
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: going to try it. And I put my hand on

811
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: you and I say, you know, maybe you should try

812
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: you know, the tomato and mozzarella or whatever, and you're

813
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 1: like alrighty. And I'm like, oh my god, it wor

814
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: and I think there's some voiceover Mary, and then I

815
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: just barrel right in there and I say I think

816
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: we should get married, and without a doubt, You're just

817
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: like alrighty and you look away and then I'm like oh,

818
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: And then I go to carry and I kind of

819
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't love my performance in this scene.

820
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: I remember being stressed about it at the time, and

821
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was Alison or if it's McDougall.

822
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: I think it might be Alison. I don't know that

823
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: she is. The Thing with Charlotte that I think was

824
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: hard is that her stakes are so high for everything

825
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: that you don't know how to modulate the scenes sometimes.

826
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: And I know sometimes even with them just like that,

827
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: Like I would read it on the page and I

828
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: would think, like, you know, this is like a regular

829
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: group scene where Charlotte's just asking some questions. And then

830
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: I'd get there and Michael Patrick would be like, yell

831
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: at her, and I'd be like, okay, yeah, I'm like, oh,

832
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: I didn't understand. He said, you are the voice of

833
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: reason in this scene and she's being insane, she's blowing

834
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: up her marriage. You've got to yell at her. I

835
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I've got to yell at Miranda. Oh

836
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: my god. But I would and he would be right, right,

837
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: But like sometimes it's hard to know, like because she's

838
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: so committed to all the things that she believes, you know,

839
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: and loves. Right, we don't know which is like one

840
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: hundred percent, which is one hundred and fifty percent, which

841
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: is fifty percent. Right, So that scene with Carrie would

842
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: I go and I'm like all shocked. I'm like playing shock,

843
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: which is also kind of hard for a whole scene, right,

844
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: And I've got my eyes are all like super big,

845
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like I proposed to myself, you know, like that, right,

846
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh baby, you know she's very motherly,

847
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: which is sweet, and like there was no ring and

848
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: he didn't get down on his knees or anything. What

849
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: did I do?

850
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: You know?

851
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: Because I think I've ruined like my one and only

852
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: moment moment, right, which I kind of did because I'm

853
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: so like hell ben on this happening. Then the payoff

854
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: comes the next episode, which is when McDougall directed. And

855
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, he would put the

856
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: camera like blocks away we're on for the avenue, yes,

857
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: I remember. We don't even know if we're in, yeah,

858
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: and it's real people.

859
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: Are walking by. We're there trying to do a little.

860
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: Scene totally and he's like, just just walk, it'll be fine.

861
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: He's British. I didn't do his accent well, but he's like,

862
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: just just walk it'll be good. And we're like, I'm like, oh,

863
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: but I need to know my mark. And you were

864
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: cool as a cucumber, having been through you know, been

865
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: in all the films, You've been in everything. Okay, but

866
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: you well you are pretending very well. But it was

867
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: really so great because we walked down and I've got

868
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: the little bow and I've got kind of the Audrey

869
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: Heppern asked Cardo, and we walked down to the corner

870
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: of Tiffany's and somehow you just sense that I'm upset.

871
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm like pouting, and then we get to the window

872
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: and it's so beautifully framed. They go inside and they

873
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Speaker 1: frame us in the window and you say, you know,

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Speaker 1: how about we go in there and get you the

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Speaker 1: best engagement ring there is. And I'm like, it was

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Speaker 1: so good.

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Speaker 2: That's what.

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Speaker 3: And also I'm just remembering shooting on the York shooting

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Speaker 3: in the streets of New York.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really it's special. I've never done that before.

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Speaker 2: I've been there for we've.

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Speaker 3: Done the Doors and we'd come to New York for that,

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Speaker 3: but that was interior and you really weren't really in

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Speaker 3: the city, but Sex and the City really really used

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Speaker 3: the city and really showed the city.

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Speaker 2: So so well.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree so well, especially in the olden

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Speaker 1: days because we were we had not enough time, so

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Speaker 1: we would like take the lights and like roll them

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Speaker 1: down the street. Do you remember this. It was like

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Speaker 1: kind of gorilla ish filmmaking. But then by the time

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Speaker 1: Charles came, because Charles would do like we also shot

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Speaker 1: in Burgdorf with the china and we had to flip

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Speaker 1: the china and he had a crane in Burgdorf and

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Speaker 1: we had like thirty six takes of the crane shot

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Speaker 1: to flip the china, which was insane, and like at

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Speaker 1: a certain point the HBO guy would come and like

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Speaker 1: lart us, like, you guys are over budget.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles was definitely OCD. It was one of them.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be perfect, it's pretty close. But he

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Speaker 3: was just so talented.

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Speaker 1: I was always like the man say, yeah, it's great, God,

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Speaker 1: so did I but.

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Speaker 2: So cool, so cool, so so.

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Speaker 1: And he always wore suits, very posh, very posh. We

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Speaker 1: were lucky to have him. All Right, Kyle, you're too

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Speaker 1: much fun. We're going to have to keep talking. Can

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Speaker 1: we come back and do Part two Pleasure fantastic. All Right,

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Speaker 1: you guys come back later in the week and we're

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Speaker 1: going to continue on talking about train and Charlotte moments

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Speaker 1: and how we remember them. Yes right, all right, thank

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Speaker 1: you Kyle,