WEBVTT - Republicans Have Won 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.440 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to ook F Daily with 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:18.639 me your girl, Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:23.960 by now you have seen the headlines with regard to 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.840 the vice presidential debate that took place on October first, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.640 and hopefully you were able to catch me on Mary 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:37.800 Trump's Live on Debate night as well as my immediate 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:42.640 thoughts that went up yesterday with the new abnormal. You know, 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:44.600 here's the thing, and I got a lot of pushback 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.360 on social media, and I was actually kind of surprised 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.800 by it. Not surprised to get pushedback, because everybody doesn't 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.480 always agree with me, and that's totally fine. I think 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.080 that the reality here to me how I saw that 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.040 debate is one I've said this before. Debits are nothing 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:05.160 more than political theater. Therefore, certain class of folks like 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:11.280 myself who really are into the nitty gritty of politics, right, 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.600 I do not think that the average voter turns into 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.479 a debate and says to themselves, well, I'm going into 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.679 this undecided. Even though we know that CNN and MSNBC 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.040 and others love to put up these voter panels after 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.360 the fact that say, oh, have you been swayed because 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.479 they say that they're undecided. I believe that that also 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.119 is part of the political theater. I think that most 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.200 people tune in because you know, they want to see 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.960 a good head to head, They want to see a matchup. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.800 But most people go in with like you would go 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.039 into a sporting match, right, like you have your team 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.760 that is in mind, and you you know who you're supporting, 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.360 and you just want to see if they do well. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.640 So last night, for me, I mean, what I will 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.720 say is that Tim Walls has said before that he 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.960 was not a good debater. Do I think that he 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.120 was not good? Do I think that there were any 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.560 disastrous moments? No, but I do think that he absolutely 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.560 left things unsaid. He treated Advance as if he is 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:14.560 normal and normalized and sinewashed, helped to sainwash his extremism. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.960 And what do I mean by that? We all have 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:22.600 heard the tapes of JD. Vance going on these right wing, misogynistic, 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:29.120 toxic white male podcasts where he has said the infamous 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:35.600 lines of about childless cat ladies and postmentalpausal women and 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.040 the need to be ruthless in your pursuit of power 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:44.920 and banning abortion and IVF and all of these things 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.400 that we know. So when you're going head to head 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:53.400 with JD. Vance and you're asked questions about reproductive care 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.880 and what your administration is going to do about that, 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.360 like this is an opportunity for you to remind regular 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.960 voters who are not necessarily like watching cable news twenty 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.160 four hours a day or following what is going on 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:13.239 by every moment, that this man is not to be trusted. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.680 He may speak in complete sentences right and have an 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.920 even tone, but he is the polished up version of 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:24.080 Donald Trump and Project twenty twenty five. What he did 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:31.160 successfully was give a normalized face to extremist ideology. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:32.160 JD. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:37.640 Vance didn't answer any direct question. So when he's asked 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.680 about abortion, and it's Tim Walls's turn, right, and he 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.600 was asked Tim Walls was asked a fucking stupid question 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.240 with regard to what about babies being aborted at nine months? 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.000 It's just like, on that face, I would have said, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.040 that question is preposterous. You know that that does not 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.560 ever happen, and that is a Republican talking point that 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.640 we know is a lie, So why is it being 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:03.080 repeated here tonight? Would have been my response. That being said, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.600 you lay out what your plans on and just say, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.560 let me remind the viewers at home the jd Vance 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:14.000 absolutely did call for an abortion ban. Jd Vance has 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:20.400 absolutely spoken demeaning ways about women, about childless women, that 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.599 the only value that you can have as a woman 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.720 in this society is to procreate. Right, ask him right 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.800 now what he has said that we have all heard 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.960 on various podcasts. That is the kind of energy. And 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.159 those are the responses that I wanted because I wanted 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:43.520 to make it very clear that although he is younger 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.640 and more coherent than Donald Trump, that he is actually 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.400 a lot more dangerous. And so when I see articles 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.839 from New York Magazine like he is smart and slick 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.359 with regard to jd Vance and the and I know 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:04.120 that Republicans have won. And why do I say that? 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:09.080 Because how would you applaud somebody for being smart and 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.520 slick when nothing that came out of their mouth was 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:16.640 the truth. Anyone can sound smart and slick if in fact, 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.320 you don't fact check, and you don't dig deeper, and 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.360 you don't ask any follow up questions, and you allow 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.200 what they say to just stand and leave it up 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.000 to the American people to be the sleuths, to be 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.000 the detectives, to unpack the things that the media should 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.240 be doing for them. He had the audacity in the 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.360 middle of that debate to say, after he's once again 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:44.600 smeared legal immigrants that are living in Springfield, Ohio and 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:49.400 was told that, yeah, they're actually here on temporary protective passes, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.840 so they are here legally, and that his response was, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.560 I thought you weren't going to fact check, so you 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.320 just got up here expecting to be able to lie 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.440 because nobody is going to check you. And therein lies 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.920 the strategy of the Republican Party. So when given an 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:12.320 opportunity to show the American people who JD. Vance is, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.800 I think that Tim Walls did not do that job. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:19.599 By agreeing with JD. Vance, by trying to seem reasonable, right, 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:23.160 you made it seem as if the Republican Party is reasonable, 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.960 and we know that they are not. They are an extremist, 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:32.160 white nationalist cult that is weaponized religion and fear in 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.400 order to build and spread their agenda. They have taken 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:42.240 hold of the Supreme Court, of Federal judgeships, of classrooms 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:49.159 of governorships, and have in many cases in states like Tennessee, Florida, 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.919 Alabama and others have operationalized Project twenty twenty five. What 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.760 they're trying to do with this election is nationalize it. 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:04.200 So any opportunity where you are given to showcase to 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.000 the American people just how dangerous this group is, but 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:12.960 instead you're offering like some nice guy sentiments, I think 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.600 is problematic. And that's what I said, and I stand 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.880 by that. Do I think that it was a disaster. No. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.560 Do I think that it swung the election, you know, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.800 one way or the other. Absolutely not. But I think 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:30.000 that any time that any Democrat, particularly during this heightened 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.080 election season, has an opportunity to be in front of 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.080 a microphone, you need to remind the American people how 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:40.160 fucking dangerous this Republican Party is and not sit there 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.120 and normalize it as if this is just oh well, 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.320 if we lose, you know, we'll just get them again 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.800 in four years. That is not what's going to happen. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.600 And so if you were watching last night and you 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.240 knew nothing about Project twenty twenty five, and you knew 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:58.040 nothing about any of JD Vance's stances, then you think that, ah, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.560 you know, this is just an election between I mean, like, 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:05.160 you know, the Romney type of Republicans and like Obama Democrats. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.680 That's not what the fuck this is. So I think 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.880 that it was a missed opportunity on the part of 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:16.720 Tim Walls to showcase just how dangerous, deceptive, and disgusting 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:21.320 the Republican Party is. Coming up next, dear friends, my 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:29.360 conversation with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel. Folks, 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.720 you know that whenever we have the opportunity to speak 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.600 with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, who apparently 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:38.359 has needed his own doctor because has had an unfortunate 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:44.720 accident recently with softball. Jonathan, welcome back. What has happened? 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.160 Did you break it your wrist? I broke it. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:51.280 Yeah. I play in a men's league and a night league, 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:55.160 and I'm out there to burn off some calories so 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.880 i can eat more mcgrib But other people think they're 0:08:57.880 --> 0:08:59.960 in the major leagues. And so I was playing catcher 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.600 and I had the ball. The guy was running in 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.600 and I'm just like, I'm like, I don't care if 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.920 you score, good for you. But he ran into me. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.520 Oh no, I'm not trying to knock the ball out 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.600 of my glove. But it turned out he knocked my 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.600 bone out of my hand, not out of it, but yeah, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.600 so I cracked a metacarpal one of the bones in 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.640 your hand. As you know, I love sports like more 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.720 than anything, and now you're I can't do sports for 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.920 two months. And so I'm open to any listener's suggestions 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.560 about like, should I do dual lingo? Should I? 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.240 Yes? Do a lingo is actually a really good addictive 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.920 thing to do. I will say that. Well, I am 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.640 sorry to hear that, and I hope that you have 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.480 a speedy recovery. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.440 It happened so quickly, so anyway, yeah, thank you. 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.480 So here we are talking today at the time of 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:56.560 this recording, we're thirty four days until the election, and 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:02.080 I have a overwhelming sense of anxiety and dread that 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:06.280 is building, that is rebuilding that had been deterred for 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.960 a couple of weeks, a couple of months, and I 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.480 wanted to get a sense from you how you are feeling, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.439 what you were thinking about with regard to the handful 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.960 of people in a handful of states that are going 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.400 to decide whether or not democracy as a project continues 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.000 as imperfect as it is. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.720 I think in general, for what it's worth. The Harris 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.480 campaign has been doing a fantastic job and so I 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:36.080 feel very assured of the competence of the campaign. But 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.880 the variables are just massive right now. So part of 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.160 the anxiety, if that's the right word, is just that 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.800 there are uncontrollable things. I mean, as we're speaking today, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.360 that dock workers are going on strike, it's going to 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:53.080 be potentially a four point five billion dollar a day 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.960 blow to the economy, and all this stuff happening with 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.079 the teamsters and where they stand, and are they trying 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.360 to hurt Harris with some of their actions and things 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.880 like that, and so you know, of course support the 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:12.200 rights of labor to better wages and conditions and security, 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.480 but just doing this right now to me is just 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:20.000 like such a variable that undercuts the economic message, which 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.960 is such a core message for Harris. And so I 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.080 hope that that resolved because that's a variable. And then 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.800 it feels like there's a very real chance that that 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:34.200 Iron Israel situation is going to escalate considerably as we 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.040 speak today, and that is another variable that is just 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.640 you know, massive, and so all of these things are 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.360 there are just so many things that can happen honestly 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.480 in the next two hours, let alone the next thirty days. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.400 And so again, part of the anxiety is like the 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.760 things you can't control, and so I just want to 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.320 roofy myself and wake up in two months, you know. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.400 But I know that right now everybody needs to be 0:11:58.440 --> 0:11:59.360 focused and present. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.240 I think that that's the difficulty that I'm having right now, 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.560 is the focus and be present, because I think to 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.319 your point, like we've had so many conversations over the 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:13.760 years where you and I both were giving it to Democrats, right. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.920 Their messaging sucks, their strategies suck, all of these things, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.760 and the fact is is that we've gotten everything that 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.679 we've wanted to a large extent fixed with the Vice 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:28.080 president and Tim Walls's team, right. They are not reactive. 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:31.600 They are combative. They are thoughtful and strategic and funny, 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.280 and they're using all different modes. She's on podcasts, they're 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:39.120 on social media, they're doing an HBCU tour, They're doing 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.360 all of the right things. And I think that where 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.960 my anxiety and my frustration lies right now is that 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:52.679 the concerted effort by both corporate mainstream media, different entities. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:57.240 Elon Musk on Twitter, like there are so many powerful 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:02.320 forces that do not want demandocracy to continue. And I 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:07.600 think that for me, it's like the people. It isn't 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.120 just about Oh, people need to get out and turn 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.760 out the vote. Yes they do, but the forces that 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:18.280 are at play it's like nothing I've ever seen. I 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.720 think that both people are energized to do the work, 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.280 and you're seeing that, but there's also the reality that 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:29.360 the Peter Tiels and the Elon Muss and the Heritage 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.760 Foundation are all on the side of ending democracy. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:37.720 For me, even more scary than that is the everyday 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.120 logics that kind of support this. I have a couple 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.360 of colleagues who come from places like Hungary for example, 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.400 that turned away from democracy, and I always ask them like, 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:49.319 was it just like you woke up one day in 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.160 democracy was gone? And they're like, no, actually it's just 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.720 chip by chip by chip. People start to think in 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.920 a way that is more a therapy than they're daily logic. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.360 And so for me, the scary part, I mean, beyond 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.800 like all these huge forces, is like, what's happening in 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.040 a place like Italy, for example, where like people slowly, 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.840 Oh of course we imprison protesters. Oh of course we 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.120 don't give birth certificates to kids of gay parents. Like, 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.920 just every little thing that's happening in Italy right now 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:28.200 is leading to more power for authoritarians. They're changing the 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.880 judicial system, they're changing the way that prime ministers are elected. 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.800 It's very similar to what Nittanyahu has been trying to 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.160 do over the past year in Israel, which is changing 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:41.960 the judicial system, cement power for extremists in Russia, which 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.720 is a totally different example, but there's a rise of 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.600 kind of nationalism among youth, and so it's kind of 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.640 like the everyday ness of this that I also find 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.560 like we're a moment now where the US can either 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.920 lead to turn back against these bigger trends, which I 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.280 sure hope we do, or we're going to succumb to 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:06.600 all these larger currents, which is people understanding the world 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.840 in a way that they haven't understood it in a 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.440 way that hasn't been the case since the thirties, right, 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.600 that hasn't really been the case in our lifetimes. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.200 Yeah, I'm fucking terrified, and I think that I would 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:23.280 feel less so if we didn't have the electoral college, 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.120 if it were up to the people, one vote, one voice, 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:31.240 and it was about majority wins. Whoever gets the most 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.800 votes wins. I would be overconfident right now, probably, and 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.200 I would say, of course she's going to win. They're 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.920 going to win, We're going to win. But given the 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:46.120 fact that we're just talking about six or seven states 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:51.120 where Republicans are governors, do you even think that it 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.640 matters right now? Jonathan, Like, one of the things that 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.320 is striking me is the fact that we just had 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:02.400 Hurricane Helene that devastated Asville, North Carolina. That is a 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:08.960 mountain city that is elevated well above sea level and 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.920 has now succumbed to the forces of climate change. And 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.640 yet there are people inside of that state that readily 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.920 vote for representation from people who don't believe in climate change. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.160 And so I keep coming back as we get closer 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.440 to the election to your book Dying of Whiteness, because 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.280 I'm just like, I don't think that there is a 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:36.720 way to convince white women in the Midwest that the 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.120 Handmaid's Tail doesn't have to be their future, like that 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.920 they can choose to actualize their own power. If I'm 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:49.880 relying on democracy to survive by convincing racist white people 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:55.800 and white women with internalized misogyny to choose their own power. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.880 I think we're fucked. I don't know your thoughts. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.800 I always think about the dying of vice. An example 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.480 of when I interviewed the people who lost kids to 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.679 gun suicide and accidental shooting, and I would ask them, 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.560 did this change your view about guns? And they would 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:18.000 always say, no, we're actually more progun than we were before. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:22.439 Like it becomes people's framework, it's their religion, and so 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.240 I think the idea that a horrible climate thing is 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.200 going to happen and then they're going to change their 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:33.000 identity to somebody who then believes in climate change. I 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.640 came to understand, like how how that was my expectation 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.800 because I already believe in climate change. But people would 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.240 ask me when I was doing the research for the 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.800 gun stuff, if something happened to you, would you start 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.520 carrying an AAR fifteen every day? And I'd be like, no, 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.760 there's nothing. There's nothing that would make me carry an 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.760 air fifteen every day. And so these issues are so deep. 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.560 There's such identity issues for a lot of people that 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.560 I think part of the issue. And I'm not trying 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.879 to sound like overly simplistic or whatever. But it's almost 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.119 like you think about it, like somebody gets cancer or 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.280 gets hit by lightning or something like that, they become 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.160 more religious. They don't become atheists or something like that. 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.120 Like people fall back on their belief systems in moments 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.560 like this, and so I don't know, it's hard to say, 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.800 like what does it take to get people to change 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.359 their mind at a time like this. So I guess 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.399 I'm just saying that my research makes me realize, like 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.560 the more desperate people become, the more ideological they become 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.240 a lot of times, and so I'm not surprised that 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.680 something like a massive catastrophic flood like this doesn't mean 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.119 that people are going to change their view. They're probably 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.800 going to double down on what their view was before. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.440 But it is just sad because I mean not just sad, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.920 it's horrible and it's catastrophic. I don't know. I guess 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.399 I idealize other points in time, But it's just that 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.840 all of our political issues are such deep identity issues, 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.119 Like it's just so predictable that the whole country is 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.480 deadlocked on their identity issues. And then there's like forty 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.719 five people in the metal who are kind of decide 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.520 the entire damn thing. So I know we're all feeling 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.399 like beat down, but man, the next month is a 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:14.200 really important month. So everybody, like, you know, drink a 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.800 protein drink and keep fighting because it's really there's so 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.680 much at stake, and so I just think picking ourselves 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.120 up off the floor right now and continuing the fight. 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:24.399 It's really a tug of war right now, and we 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:25.520 got to all show up for it. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.760 Have you thought about what happens if he wins. 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:32.720 If Trump wins? 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:33.680 Yeah? 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, I've done a lot of 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:41.800 work and other places where something comparable happens, not nothing 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.800 at this scale or something, But I just I've done 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.880 so many interviews in Israel where people thought that their 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.280 liberal centrist world was going to go on forever. And 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.640 the day after Nisan Yahu won, well before October seventh, 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:59.040 a couple months before, people realized their life was changing forever. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.240 So it's that kind of day after where all of 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.600 a sudden it hit people how different their life was 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:07.119 about to be in a orse sense. And what I 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:11.760 learned from that Israel research before was that centrists showed 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.080 up and liberals at the rate that they always had, 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.960 but the right was really energized and all these hidden 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.639 ways because they smelled power and owning the libs and 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.640 all this kind of stuff. And so it's just that 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.879 feeling of just a chemical feeling that your life is 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:27.879 never going to be the same, that the paradigm and 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.840 the framework that has governed the way you see the 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:32.640 world and the way you understand it is never going 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:36.000 to be the same. And I imagine that beyond any 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.600 day to day thing, it would just be something like that, 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.760 we're living in a totally different paradigm right now. 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.720 But we've been, you know, Like That's the other point too, 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.439 is that I just realized, I don't know, I'm feeling 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.840 very existential this morning, But it was this idea that 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:56.400 everything has already shifted. People proselytize about the end end 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.960 of days, But when you're in the end of days, 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.520 would you actually know that you're in the end of days? 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.320 I don't think so. And so I just think to 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:08.640 the degree at which ideologies and identities have already shifted 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:13.240 over the last eight years, it's already churning. That's where 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:17.600 I feel right now, which is there's an opportunity to 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:22.360 stop it, but I don't think even I have recognized 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:27.960 how many billions of dollars and forces there are to 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.119 push against the will of the people. 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.320 Well, listen, I think those are all real things. They 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:35.800 are certainly real. But we need your voice right now. 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.560 So I mean, I'm not going anywhere. Why God, I'm 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.480 not leaving, but I'm just like, that's the place that 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.800 I'm thinking about, which is, Yeah, we have thirty four 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.159 days and then the election is over, and so thirty 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.199 four days from the time that we're recording this, we 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.879 need to do as I'll use a sports analogy as 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.080 we close out, leave it all on the field. 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:58.160 Yep, that's sure. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.160 As they say, Jonathan, my friend, thank you so much. 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:05.639 Heal get better and do Dualinka. 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.480 It'll be good for you all right, bye everybody. 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.280 As a reminder, friend, I am live every Monday through 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:20.280 Thursday on my YouTube channel at five pm Eastern, So 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.400 do make sure that you head over to YouTube, type 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:26.760 in the Daniel Moody channel and subscribe so that you 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:30.440 never miss an episode and never miss the an opportunity 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:34.919 to build community over there in our live chat. 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