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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast can't deeven jaw of forty

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Speaker 1: yard Dash. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Janzas, and I am

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Speaker 1: joined in a stadium filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Day

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Speaker 1: two of the press conferences here Indianapolis at the two

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Speaker 1: thousand eighteen NFL Scouting two thousand nineteen NFL Scouting Combine.

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Speaker 1: We are here at Lucas Oil Stadium, one of the

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Speaker 1: finest facilities in this country to play professional football. In

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Speaker 1: my humble opinion, Mark, Yeah, your name, Day two has

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Speaker 1: a way of feeling like Day twenty two. I think

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Speaker 1: that you're a constant praise of this stadium. Has something

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Speaker 1: to do with the fact that the only time we've

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Speaker 1: ever watched actual football in here, one game, the total

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Speaker 1: utter demise of the Patriots. There has to be some

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Speaker 1: psychlist I'm any. Yeah. The most page told me something

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Speaker 1: in the airport today in the elevator. To his mind,

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Speaker 1: Great believes that is the worst Patriots loss of his lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Not eighteen and one. No, I think that one was word.

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Speaker 1: I've said this on the podcast before, because it was

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Speaker 1: the second time around, Brady wasn't playing well. You thought

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Speaker 1: they would never get another chance again, and it was

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Speaker 1: the Giants beating them a second time, so it was

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Speaker 1: even worse, and he just thought it was over. Greg

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Speaker 1: also told me that he's still smug about this year's

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. Well, well that's this is separate. But you were,

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Speaker 1: you memorably, at least in my mind, told me I've

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Speaker 1: never seen more smug after a super Bowl than this,

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Speaker 1: And he was right, at least in terms of and

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Speaker 1: I and now weeks later agree like I, no super

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Speaker 1: don't want to see them to start. Let's just keep

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Speaker 1: keep them as the champions. Let's not even move on

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Speaker 1: after bathing this, Ricky, Right, come on, after we finished

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Speaker 1: recording the show, we're all gonna go find the elevator,

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Speaker 1: uh door where Giselle said Tom ken't throw the ball

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Speaker 1: in catch it as well. That's what this all sounds like.

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Speaker 1: Nailed it all right, Big show, Big their Friday show,

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Speaker 1: early Friday show. We're gonna get a lot of more

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Speaker 1: press conference reactions. Uh, this was the second day coaches

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Speaker 1: as much news. But you know, the NFL calendar has

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Speaker 1: a way, Uh, the NFL cycle has a way of

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Speaker 1: dropping a bomb when you want one. We could We're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're missing maybe a hammer dropper to start today's show.

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Speaker 1: And then what happens Jason Witten ESPN analyst or he

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Speaker 1: was because he's out of the booth Monday night football,

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Speaker 1: that's over. No more Jason Witten, no more. He's out. RUSS.

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Speaker 1: You could listen to you can watch NFL games on

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Speaker 1: Monday night with the volume up again because Witten is

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Speaker 1: out of the booth. Where is he going? Well, you

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Speaker 1: know it, he's back on the Dallas Cowboys after a

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Speaker 1: one year hiatus. As it turns out, he's gonna return

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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys for a sixteenth season. Uh. This was

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Speaker 1: genuinely marked shocking news because I mean, last time we

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Speaker 1: tweet a stop Mark Well no, but it's like I

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Speaker 1: that with I think the Cowboys view him as a

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Speaker 1: From another angle, the football gods a reasonally just look

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Speaker 1: and says we must make a course correction. This is

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Speaker 1: a thankful course correction, I think, first of all for

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Speaker 1: was bad. No one wants to enjoy sports like that.

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Speaker 1: He seems like a nice guy, so it works out

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Speaker 1: great for him and for the viewers. I don't know

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Speaker 1: and why are you so? Why are you paying Jason

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Speaker 1: But I think it's funny that ultimately he attempted Jason

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Speaker 1: But John Lynch, the Niners GM. He is one of

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Speaker 1: out of their way to talk about this issue that

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Speaker 1: they need to think about backing off of Girly's workload.

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Speaker 1: So I think it is a real thing that they're worrying.

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Speaker 1: They mentioned his a C L injury that he had

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Speaker 1: in college that that they wanna, you know, maybe limited

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Speaker 1: him to I don't know. I'm just gonna throw out

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Speaker 1: at number like three D twenty five touches instead of

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Speaker 1: you know, getting closer to four hundred. But a lot

435
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Speaker 1: of it is a way to not come around and say, yes,

436
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: he was not himself down the stretch and it was

437
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Speaker 1: health related. No one inside the RAMS organization will admit

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Speaker 1: that outside of people are speculating about girl's knee. This

439
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: this is a ripe for a pretty good conversation. I think,

440
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Speaker 1: really dive into this, stick in because I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's been under discussed. It really has um. Moving on,

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00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: you reready move on, Let's move on. Kyler Murray heard

443
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Speaker 1: of that guy talk about some prospects two thousand, nineteen

444
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Speaker 1: NFL scouting combine, and he's the big name, the quarterback

445
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Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner. Finally, after

446
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: weeks and weeks and weeks of build up, he measured

447
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Speaker 1: in he came in just a touch over five ten.

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Speaker 1: He was over two hundred pounds. His hands were nine

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Speaker 1: and a half inches, which I guess is fine. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it seems okay. And uh, and he's meeting

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Speaker 1: with a ton of teams, including the Raiders, one the Cardinals,

452
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Speaker 1: who we'll see. Um, So here we go. The Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray train is rolling on the Twitter show that we

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Speaker 1: uh are around the NFL Twitter Show on Thursday. I

455
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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. We had our boy Lance Zerline

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Speaker 1: on the show and uh, he had something interesting to

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Speaker 1: say about Murray and and not Johnny Manzel, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and how Baker has kind of opened the

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Speaker 1: door for Kyle. Let's listen into that. How about that.

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Speaker 1: You want to just play a clip? Play that clip.

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Speaker 1: My grade on Kyler Murray this year is going to

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Speaker 1: be higher than it was for Baker Mayfield last year.

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Speaker 1: You need to know. Perspective is that Baker Mayfield opened

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Speaker 1: the door for me to give Kyler Murray a higher grade.

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Speaker 1: So I actually like Baker Mayfield more in the process

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Speaker 1: than Kyler Murray. But I was still I was still

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Speaker 1: in that six ft quarterback club coming from an Oklahoma offense.

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Speaker 1: It's like the NFL is open to this now, or

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Speaker 1: opening up to it happens that fast. So and I

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Speaker 1: know it seems crazy, but as soon as you had

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Speaker 1: that success from Baker, I thought the door opened wide

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Speaker 1: open for Kyler Murray in some circles, and um it

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Speaker 1: did for me. I try to keep an open mind

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Speaker 1: with my process because it needs to be fluid because

475
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Speaker 1: the league has never been more fluid than right now.

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Speaker 1: There you got Lance said it. He might he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the size mark. But as we saw with Man's

478
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Speaker 1: said it again Baker Mayfield last year, who didn't have

479
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Speaker 1: huge hands, he wasn't the biggest guy, it didn't matter

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Speaker 1: with Baker, he's a star. When it was a year

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Speaker 1: ago that people were making lazy comparisons between Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: and Johnny Manziel and that he blew that away too,

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Speaker 1: that it's not it's also the persona and I think

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Speaker 1: that you heard more coaches this time around than any

485
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Speaker 1: time before talking about spread offenses and quarterbacks operating almost

486
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Speaker 1: exclusively out of the shotgun, which removes some of the

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Speaker 1: height issue and all this other nonsense that you know,

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Speaker 1: the NFL has a long time for a long time

489
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Speaker 1: been a an outpost for old thinking that refused used

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Speaker 1: to acknowledge the way that college football was evolving. And

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Speaker 1: you can't do that anymore because as soon as one

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Speaker 1: or two or three teams decide to embrace that, everyone

493
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Speaker 1: else is catching up. And it it goes right down

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Speaker 1: to the physical makeup of a quarterback. Yeah, we talk

495
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Speaker 1: about all the time how how quickly change happens in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And I thought that was another interesting thing

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Speaker 1: that Lance said that this really has changed that much

498
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Speaker 1: the way coaches around the league think of smaller quarterbacks

499
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Speaker 1: now that did they think if Baker Mayfield can come

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Speaker 1: out of that offensive Oklahoma and be success in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it really lessens their doubts about Kyler? Gordon said this morning.

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Speaker 1: Just height. He just doesn't think heights that big of

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Speaker 1: a factor and that and the more you hear Gruden

504
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna meet with him, I don't know. Don't

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Speaker 1: you just think Gruden and Mike Mayack are going to

506
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Speaker 1: just fall in love with one of these guys. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's not Murray, maybe it's Dwayne Haskins or whoever. And

508
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Speaker 1: just like I think that, Hey, we don't plan to

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Speaker 1: be up here that much, and Gruden just loves changing

510
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Speaker 1: out like that's kind of what I've based, Like Marx

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Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the Raiders trading Derek are and

512
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Speaker 1: the reason it seems so believable because it just seems

513
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Speaker 1: like exactly what John Gruen has done throughout his career

514
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Speaker 1: as a coach and personnel decision maker is make that

515
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Speaker 1: type of move. I'm with you too, Mark. I think

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Speaker 1: by the time this whole process is over, Murray's the

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Speaker 1: first guy that comes up on stage. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I think so too. But I think that also the trading,

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Speaker 1: if it's the Raiders who want to try to get

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Speaker 1: up there with a whole trade Derek Carr, it's a

521
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: bad offseason to try to trade anyone. Well, it's so chucky.

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Speaker 1: They're handling it better than let's say, the Cardinals, which

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Speaker 1: we should talk about the Josh Rosen Instagram uh deletion story,

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Speaker 1: right because this is also it's sort of it's sort

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Speaker 1: of connected, you know, it's I mean, it's connected that Rosen,

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Speaker 1: you know, deleted his pictures or posts on Instagram that

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Speaker 1: he went much like Mark Brady, who are shadowy league

528
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Speaker 1: figure who's really stepping up his self is Mark Brady's

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Speaker 1: Instagram handle. Let's get everybody to follow him, Mark Patrick Brady,

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00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: Patrick Brady, uh to us a favor. It's a free show.

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Speaker 1: Everyone go follow Mark Patrick Brady on Instagram. Let's see

532
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Speaker 1: how many people. Let's see how many followers you get.

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Speaker 1: Let's check right now where new followers over the next

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Speaker 1: seventy two hours. We want Mark Patrick Brady to have

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Speaker 1: more followers than any of us. Let's see. So he

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Speaker 1: deleted Josh Rosen, you know, deleted, uh, deleted all the

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Speaker 1: posts with the Cardinals on it, much like Mark Brady

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Speaker 1: is gonna delete, you know, all of his around the

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Speaker 1: NFL post the second like he forces us out of

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Speaker 1: the And it turns out that he actually said on

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Speaker 1: Twitter that he was hacked four or five days ago,

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Speaker 1: and it seems like that's when all the pictures were

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00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: taken away. So it's before these recent Steve Kim comments,

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Speaker 1: which is just ultra confusing. But either way, the comments

545
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: the Cardinals picks were taken away. He's he's been annoyed

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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. He was an I did because I

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00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: totally think he did it. Um. I think he scrubbed

548
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Speaker 1: his profile because he's annoyed about the lack of support

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00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: he's getting in the speculation around the idea that the

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00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: Cardinals passive to move on, and can you imagine he

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Speaker 1: if that is indeed the case and he scrubbed those

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00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: Cardinals photos five days ago, what he felt about Steve

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00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: Kime's comments to the world on Wednesday. It is fast

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00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: becoming again this is speculation. But if that's what happened,

555
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: a toxic situation with a kid who's twenty two years

556
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: old that you just took and you put him on

557
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: a bad team that was that team was crap last

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Speaker 1: year with no support around him, and now you're gonna

559
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: fall out of love with him and kind of drag

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00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: him through the mud a little bit. I get why

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00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: he's met now. He should have been more savvy to

562
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: realize everyone tracks everything on the Graham like Mark Patrick Brady,

563
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: who you can follow us two and thirty followers right now.

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00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 1: Follow that. Let's put a couple of zeros on that.

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Speaker 1: Let's go for it at Mark Patrick Brady. We don't

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Speaker 1: ask you much, but we ask you for that. But anyway,

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00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have done that, Josh Rosen, because in this

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00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: world people track those things. But I get it. I

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Speaker 1: get why he's angry, But he did that because people

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Speaker 1: track those things. I mean, that's the that's the whole

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00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: point of it. I mean, that's the idea. Julio Jones

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00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: takes off all the Atlanta Falcon stuff because he wants

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Speaker 1: people to know. That's how he's sending a message, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, then I guess that he could be doing

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00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: that too. We need to get him. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: he if he thinks it's like some private he just

577
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: needs to take the Cardinals out of his heart. He

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00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: knows that people are going to see it. Right, and

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00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 1: and as much as Yester, it's complicated. Let's say they

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00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: do want to trade Josh and they had a fine spot.

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Speaker 1: They have a number one overall draft pick, and Josh

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Speaker 1: Rosen has plenty of value. It's not the worst thing

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Speaker 1: in the world if Josh Rosen got traded, at least

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00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: not for the Cardinals. Yeah, maybe let him know ahead

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Speaker 1: of time if you're going to go to a press

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Speaker 1: conference and say that he is just right now our

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00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: and I have seen and heard, uh some people think

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Speaker 1: that if Josh Rosen came out this year, he would

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Speaker 1: be the number one quarterback picked in the draft. So

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Speaker 1: I wonder if there was an actual trade, how deflated

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Speaker 1: his value would be. I don't think he would be

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Speaker 1: the number one quarterback picked by the Cardinals at number

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Speaker 1: one this year. I think that's that's fair. I think

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Speaker 1: he could still get a first round You absolutely get

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Speaker 1: a first round pick for him. By the way, maybe

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Speaker 1: he would have been though, because Steve kim is that

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00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: this isn't a new GM either. It's not like it's

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Speaker 1: a new regime. Came in and fell out of love

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Speaker 1: with the kid, like come loved Rosen enough to take

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Speaker 1: him in the first Yeah. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: this comes down to Cliff Kingsbury's offense versus who was

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Speaker 1: there last year. I don't think this would be an

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00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: issue if they if Steve Wilkes were still there, or

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Speaker 1: anyone else. Um, all right, let's move on some legal

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00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: news we have. Let's circle back to the Robert Craft situation.

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00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 1: The Patriots owner has pleaded not guilty to solicitation charges,

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00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: according to court documents released on Thursday. Um Craft's attorney

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00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: filed written plea with the Palm Beach County Court on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Craft he wants a non jury trial. Authorities, of course,

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00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: they Craft entered a Florida massage parlor for sex acts

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Speaker 1: on the morning of the a f C title game,

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00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: which is an interesting wrinkle to this whole story, then

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00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: got on a plane and attended the game in Kansas

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00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: City that day. So this whole story, which is obviously

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00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: a bad look for the Patriots, it's a bad look

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Speaker 1: for Craft. And what could it mean. We don't know.

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00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out whether or not he gets prosecuted

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00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: or successfully prosecuted down in Florida. We'll find out what

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Speaker 1: kind of punishment he gets. There's a good chance he

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Speaker 1: gets punishment by the NFL, which does not need a

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00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: guilty anybody to be found guilty to still get punished

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00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: in the league. Think back that Jim Ursay, who actually

623
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: did get punished by the law as well, but he

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00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: got suspended in a big fine. You imagine Craft could

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00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: be in a line for that. But there are other factors,

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00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: uh Greg as well, that Craft could be up against

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Speaker 1: after what was a highly unfortunate an event in his life.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna put an opinion on this, but

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Speaker 1: I heard that there's some talk among Hall of Fame

630
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: voters here at the Combine wondering about how that would

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Speaker 1: impact his chances, and and that they thought it would

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Speaker 1: that that it's very important to him to be to

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00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer, and that this certainly could

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00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: be something that that would get in the way. That

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00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: the voters are specifically instructed not to take any of

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Speaker 1: that into account when they're voting, which is really frustrating.

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Speaker 1: I agree West, because they seem to totally they do

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00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: so they do um In other news, uh, legal news,

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00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: Damarus Thomas, who we lost less all being carted off

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Speaker 1: the field with a lower leg injury. Wide receiver with

641
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Speaker 1: the Texans, his big years of course with the Broncos.

642
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: He's been arrested on allegations and including vehicular assault stemming

643
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: from a crash earlier this month. So just add West,

644
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Did did he land on the top

645
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: one free agents? No, he didn't make. This is a

646
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: guy that already it was, had a great career in

647
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: the NFL who's back was against the while on the

648
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: wrong side of thirty coming off a lower body injury.

649
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: Now he has legal proceedings. It is not going to

650
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: be a hot free agent market. Put it that way, No,

651
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna be able to work out for

652
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: a while with that Achilles injury and the last two

653
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: teams that had him, the Broncos and Texans have no

654
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: real interest in him in this time around. The Texans

655
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: their G and Briant game was talking today and he

656
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: really likes his wide receiver corps right now with k

657
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: QT emerging and Willful are coming back from an a

658
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: c L injury. I mean he got bigger problem though.

659
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: That's that's a no joke. Yeah, vehicular you know that,

660
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: that's a no joke. Um charge that he's facing. Um

661
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 1: all right, that's uh, that's what's kind of happening in

662
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 1: the news. Like yesterday was fun. Yesterday, we did some

663
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: other takeaways from what we've seen in the last twenty

664
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: four hours or so. Greg, want to get us going

665
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: with some other takeaways? What do you want me to

666
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: get it going? No, how about this. I've noticed the

667
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: last couple of days with the Vikings talking, Rick Spielman,

668
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer, Gary Kubiak is running the show. In that

669
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: building on offense, there's a guy Kevin Stefanski is there.

670
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember he was the offensive

671
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: coordinator after they um, you know, made a change. In

672
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: December last year, he interviewed for a head coach job.

673
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: He has the title of offensive coordinator. It doesn't matter

674
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Kob's has come in there. He's running the show. He

675
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: brought all these assistants and they're not even trying to

676
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: hide it. They're bringing his entire running scheme. They're gonna

677
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: look for different zone runners. And the way Zimmer was

678
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: talking about Kubiak, he's just like excited to hear Kubiak

679
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: talk about all the old days under Bill Walsh and

680
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's just a strange situation. But they're

681
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: acknowledging that Stefanski, who has the title of offensive coordinator,

682
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: is basically reporting to Kubiak. I can't remember a setup

683
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: quite like that before, but I guess it can work.

684
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, like the analytics department in Cleveland, there was

685
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: a cross section of the thought. He very highly of

686
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: him as the perfect mixture to make the next head coach,

687
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: and maybe Mike Zimmer is not caring so much about

688
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: the analytics results on Kevin Stefanski. I think Gary Kobe

689
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: I guess sort of like the offensive version of Wade Phillips.

690
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: He's one of the best offensive coordinators of this century.

691
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: I agree, Uh, let me throw something out there. I

692
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: don't think it's really been anybody's kind of speculated on that.

693
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: But Doug Baldwin, the star wide out for the Seahawks,

694
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll veld during his presser that Baldwin underwent knee

695
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: and shoulder surgeries after the season. This is a guy

696
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: um that seems to be beat up a lot. He

697
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: also is now on the wrong side of thirty. I

698
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: checked out over the cap which is a great resource,

699
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: uh for anybody that follows football, and the Seahawks are

700
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: flushed with cap space seventy million. Excuse me, they have

701
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: fifty one million in cap space, which puts them in

702
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: the top ten. I wonder if they would be a

703
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: suitor for Antonio Brown, uh Seattle. It's a situation where

704
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh could send him out of the conference far far away,

705
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: and UH, Russell Wilson gets a big, big weapon which

706
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: he could probably use, especially with Baldwin coming off some surgeries.

707
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: I had the thought while I was listening to John

708
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: Schneider yesterday that or Wednesday, that they are happy with

709
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: their wide receiver corps that Tyl Tyler Lockett had a

710
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: really good year. D J. Moore emerged as a pretty

711
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: good number three, and Balbin will eventually be healthy again.

712
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: You're right, you never know if he'll be the same.

713
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: It was made more like kind of big time surprising

714
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: trades other than the Seahawks, Percy Harvard and Brown, like

715
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: they're not afraid to go make a big spell give

716
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: up first round picks too. I mean it's like that

717
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: that would fit the Pittsburgh side. They that would fit

718
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh. I think also Seattle surprised a lot of

719
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: us last year by by turning things around very quickly,

720
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: but they still I feel like they nip might need

721
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: more to get over the hump and be a real

722
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: NFC threat. And yes, maybe it's a crowded situation there.

723
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: Uh if you had an Tonio Brown but all of

724
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: a sudden, I mean Russell Wilson, people kind of sleep

725
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: on how awesome he was last year Statistically through let

726
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: never threw a fewer passes. Uh, and yet through thirty

727
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: five touchdowns barely turned the ball over. That's a fun spot.

728
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: It's like Ryan Schottenheimer and Antonio Brown, what could go wrong? West?

729
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: You gotta take away? Yeah, I think we've been doing

730
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: this show about six years now, and for the bulk

731
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: of that time, I mean for a time, I've thought

732
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: very little of the Cleveland Browns and their leadership and

733
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: their chances of ever getting out of the hole that

734
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: they were in. And I think way differently about them

735
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: now after hearing John Dorsey and Freddie Kitchens, and Dorsey

736
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: was saying Thursday morning, Freddie is He's real, He's honest,

737
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: he believes in family. He's a check your ego at

738
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: the door kind of guy. And we kind of wondered

739
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: if he just got the job because he was good

740
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield. And I think what we saw at

741
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: the combine is that Freddie Kitchen got the job because

742
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: he deserved to have the job, and that now he

743
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: and the g M are in lockstep on on this team,

744
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: on on what's going on. I think this is a

745
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: team with an extremely bright future and I love everything

746
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: going on with the Cleveland Browns right now. Well, in

747
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: the and he took a selfie with Mark Sessler. I

748
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: mean I would say I took one with him. I

749
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: don't think it was it was what was it? You

750
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: were walking by just him? I left Dan and Erica

751
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: and the rest last night and was I had the

752
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: worst sense of direction, and it took me like twenty

753
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: minutes longer to walk home than it should have. And

754
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: this little tavern next for a hotel was closing, and

755
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: I basically looked through the door and salt Freddie Kitchens

756
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: and a bunch of like burly football dudes. Hang, I'm

757
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk in there, and I'm gonna get a

758
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: photo of this guy. And I didn't. Then I went home.

759
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: But he couldn't have been nicer. He was totally cool,

760
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: and everyone around him, some guys were like, wait, who

761
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: is that? They didn't even know was Freddie Kitchens. These

762
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: other two dudes that were sitting there already sitting there

763
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: talking to him. He looks like every man, you know.

764
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: He's a big guy, Freddie. But yeah, I can see

765
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't maybe cut the figure of like a John

766
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: Harbaugh type, you know. But he scored points with me

767
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: and my for not being like some she she like

768
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: must be seen place. He was somewhere where it was

769
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: just dude, Yeah, it was that place. But I didn't

770
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: want to. I mean, I don't want people running out

771
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: there to try to find him the rest of the week.

772
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: But not everything like his place, So not every GM

773
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: would have hired him because no, he doesn't care about image.

774
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: He's not extremely polished, he doesn't fit the prototype of

775
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. He's almost a little too real

776
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: and genuine. John Dorsey, by the way, revealed he always

777
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: wears that same brown sweatshirt. He has seven of them,

778
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: same shirts every Yeah, he just wears one every day

779
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: with like very baggy brown corduroy. So like the whole

780
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: thing is I mean, it's a bit but he's sticking

781
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: with it. Mark, you gotta take away, you know. I was,

782
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: I think all last season, actually the last couple of years,

783
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: the Rams they annoyed me and I couldn't quite figure

784
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: out why, because there's a lot to like, they're in

785
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: our hometown. My kids start to like the Rams. What

786
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: is my issue? But it was just too easy for

787
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: them and they were suddenly in the super Bowl, and

788
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: to me, I just I like to see teams go

789
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: through stuff. And I thought that Sean McVeigh, you know who,

790
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: could have taken today's press conference in a lot of

791
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: different directions. And in the past you've heard like, oh,

792
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: we've got to spend you know, I think with the

793
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: Falcons lost to the Patriots, there was such a narrative

794
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: like the whole team psychologically trying to overcome that, and

795
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: they really essentially haven't. But the Rams under McVeigh, I

796
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: I thought, because I watched him on the set early

797
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: on with Good Morning Football and then come over and

798
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: talk to everyone else, I buy into him entirely as

799
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: much as you could because I think that he's built

800
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: to take the Rams back and that there he he

801
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: talked about liking this much is as much as he

802
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: ever ever has February into March into April and this

803
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: whole process that it's not just how do we get

804
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: back to six and oh, there's a lot else to do.

805
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: I find them more likable now because they've been through something.

806
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: They've been knocked down. Let's see if they can get

807
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: back up. He said on Pro Football Talk today, He's

808
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: gone from boy Wonder to boy Blunder. That's well done.

809
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: That's a good way to more debate yourself. I it is.

810
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: I think. Actually, I know it's been talked about, but

811
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: almost not enough was made for the amount of praise,

812
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: the heaping praise and earned Sean McVeigh has gotten in

813
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: the last two years how bad they played in that

814
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl offense, and obviously the quarterback was a big problem,

815
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: and girlely whatever was going on with Todd Gurley is

816
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: a big issue. But their inability to ever dig out

817
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: and even scored three points in the year two thousand nineteen,

818
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: and that was their identity. I mean it has to

819
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: sting as every Super Bowl loss things like crazy, but

820
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: the way they lost that just has to go to halftime,

821
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: like all right, McVeigh is gonna draw something up. It

822
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: just never happened, and that was some shine was taken

823
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: off and he's got to bounce back from that. I

824
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: I learned a little nugget, you know. Uh, I've been

825
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: talking about Scangarello, the offensive coordinator of the Broncos, kind

826
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: of an X factor in the two thousand nineteen No,

827
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: not Scango. Everyone calls him Skanks. That's the truth. They're

828
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, that's the nugget. I was just like

829
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: they were, Oh I was talking about it. He's like, oh, yes,

830
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: you know Skanks did or no, it was that it

831
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: was John Lynch. There's like, Skanks did a great job

832
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: last year, you know, coaching up Jimmy Garoppolo and all

833
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: this stuff. It's like, you know, skanks. You know, that's

834
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: what I learned about skanks. What would you want the

835
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: nickname to be if you were him? Sank or skank? Skank,

836
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: sk skank Get over here. I mean, I'm sure he

837
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: has gotten that. Um. If you guys, if you guys

838
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: heard maybe during the pressers, a little chirp of a canary,

839
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: maybe a smell like a sulfur let's go too cold town, guys,

840
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: we're chatting and uh, listen. Growing up in Pearl River,

841
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: it's it's different. It's different. It bonds you because it

842
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: is working class. It is people trying to survive, like

843
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: one per center is trying to survive day by day,

844
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: just trying to get by. And it's a brotherhood. And

845
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: so when Ryan Gaine, who grew up in Pearl River

846
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Quake Lane, when I see him on the on the podium,

847
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: I have to grab him. I go, hey, Pearl River man,

848
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: me too. We have a nice chat and I share

849
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: a little news that surprised him that back in the

850
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: late nineties, UM, I was a senior in high school

851
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: and UM, during a study hall class, we had a

852
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: substitute teacher and it was none other than twenty three

853
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: year old Brian Gaine, who at the time was trying

854
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: to catch on with the Jets and the Giants and

855
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: even the Colts practice squad. He never made it to

856
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: the NFL, but he had a nice college career I

857
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: believe at Delaware, played at don Bosco Prep right over

858
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: the border in Jersey, but a Pearl River guys. Parents

859
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: still live in Pearl River, and he he was my

860
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: study hall teacher, and I remember talking to him and

861
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: being obviously, uh, I was about seventeen, he was twenty three,

862
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: just being in awe of this dude who seemed to

863
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: be on the right path and it turned out that

864
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: he was. What is What was his response to this?

865
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: He was he was very cool. He was nice about it,

866
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: and he said, uh, like I mentioned my friend Bob

867
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: whoy Do a throwback podcast with who lived grew up

868
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: like three doors down, and uh, Bob's family used to

869
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: call the games the Basketball Boys because all the brothers

870
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: used to be in the driveway playing basketball all the time.

871
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was an athletic family. I mean, I

872
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: know in the in the with the with the coldtown situation,

873
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: the respiratory issues when you're an adult are very heavy

874
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: and incumberently. How did you notice that the press converence?

875
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: I didn't because he was wearing like the phoenix sweater

876
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: and a in a two shirt. It looked like kind

877
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: of the dad from nine or two one out of me.

878
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: But he got out and I got out, and I

879
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: love pro over to this day. But we could you

880
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: could take us out of Pearl River said it was

881
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: one of the nicest places to live in America. And

882
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: you know what that vaccines, right, absolutely right, don't don't

883
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: take it away from this. Well, what about when you

884
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: brought up a story you you know, you're trying to

885
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: like getting good with him, and he said, oh yeah,

886
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: remember I remember you. You said that day that you

887
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: were going to see private parts of the Howard Stern

888
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: movie and then he just shot your story you right then? No,

889
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: he said, he said, that wasn't me. And you know

890
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: what I want, I'm going to give him the benefit

891
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: of the doubt and and say that maybe I was

892
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: talking to a different substitute teacher. But my memory is

893
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: pretty clear that he was pumped up to see that movie.

894
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like he wasn't a jerk about He's like, no,

895
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: you got the wrong guy. There was that like the

896
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: last part of your conversation. Know what, this is why

897
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: you're a bad person? Was he? Was? He a good

898
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: substitute tea? Is that how it ended? So I did

899
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: an end a while. I guess it was a bad conversation.

900
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: As it turns out, it's good. It's fine. For the record,

901
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: Brian Gaine has has the look of somebody who maybe

902
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: like the attorney for the coal mine company. Yeah, no,

903
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: he's listen. That's one of my big final takeaway from

904
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: me um is why are all the coaches and GM's

905
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: like good looking? Now? Remember like the old days, these

906
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: guys are just a wreck physically. Now it's it's just like,

907
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: come on, you're gonna be better looking at this too.

908
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if we need a shot at bump

909
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: Phield bums. Fine, take that back, Okay, thank you? Are you?

910
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that? I have? I think it's because

911
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: you're essentially the front facing CEO at this point where

912
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: they used to not do twenty minutes of media every

913
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: day that NFL network and ESPN broadcast to like four

914
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: billion homes. So you can't roll in there looking like,

915
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, twelve sheets to the wind. You haven't jogged

916
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: since it doesn't fly at the like a good sign

917
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: for the job that the guy was slovenly he's Oh,

918
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: he's grinder. He's on the ground twenty three hours a day.

919
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: Chewing up tape doesn't work. Now you're the CEO, UM,

920
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: I do have one final thought, gentleman. Uh Tom Tolesco,

921
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: the GM of the Chargers, was asked UM about the

922
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: quarterback draft class and this is how he became. He

923
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: began his answer, not so much Daniel Jeremiah to give

924
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: you a quarterback analysis of the group. But now I

925
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: know to LESCo and obviously DJ have ties. They know

926
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: each other. And also DJ is the color guy for

927
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: the Chargers. But I just want to say this, when

928
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: you talk about making the Leap right, one of your

929
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: famous series, that you right, this is the combine of DJ,

930
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: I feel like and of course Mayak moves out of

931
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: the picture and into a front office DJ more than ever,

932
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah is having a moment right now, the fact

933
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: that he is now a brand that you bring up

934
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: DJ as Hey, I'm no Daniel Jeremiah DJ, and he

935
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: should start a podcast because it seems like he has

936
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: a lot to offer. He's having a moment. I gotta

937
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: tip my hat to the guy. I gotta say it,

938
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: and then come on, come in and started. I mean,

939
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: you're right, he's gonna be The football world's gonna be

940
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: watching him Saturday and Sunday and throughout. He's probably gonna

941
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: be a general manager in like three years. Yeah, I

942
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: think when he Because now if you were to text him,

943
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: he will text you back the minute he's encamped with

944
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: a team with real information and that's the end of

945
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: our relationship. But it really is like I saw it

946
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: in the lobby at our hotel, outside the coffee shop,

947
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: if you try to make eye contact when you start

948
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: walking to all of a sudden, it's like the Beatles,

949
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: like four like Pasty Scouts or all these different people

950
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: crowd around him. Everyone wants a piece of Jeremiah. Do

951
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: you really want your GM saying that he doesn't know

952
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: as much as an NFL network analyst. I would want

953
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: my jam to say, actually, I do scout quarterbacks, and

954
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: I do watch them, and I do have a take here,

955
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: but is just trying to get a little pop. That

956
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: might be the first time he was mentioned on this

957
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: podcast and not three years before it worked. DJ is

958
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: having a good life. No, he's doing a nice He's

959
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: one of those guys who's just good at living. It's good.

960
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: Got the kids kind of done early, and so he's

961
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna be like empty house, like early forties. It's all

962
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: living in San Diego. Great quality of life. Look about

963
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: face on DJ. But speaking of which, Mark dining with

964
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: DJ still hit him up at move the six hashtag

965
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: hashtag dining with DJ. I think, now, as you see

966
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: his trajectory, why would you not want to be with him?

967
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: The night before the draft on that Proud Mary cruise

968
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: ship where you have I think they said it's like

969
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: a three or four hour window. It's lobster champagne and

970
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: it's like five people in DJ. This is when everyone

971
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: wants to have dinner with DJ. This is your chance

972
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: and not for lightweight. So you have to tweet them

973
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: and you have to use the hashtag, and it's there

974
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: are people currently going through. There's one winner, what potential

975
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: winner has been picked already, but there's a lot of

976
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the rest need to produce something more content. Please,

977
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: All right, there we go any anything else? We are now,

978
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: we're going, we are, we are then on a plane

979
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: back to Culver for nextually. Yeah, let's talk about Vic

980
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: Beasley is gonna be returning to the Falcons. I think

981
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: it's a great week for the Jaguars. They got Marcel

982
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: Darius to take a pay cut and Nicks on a

983
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: platter for them. Emmanuel Sanders can't believe he's gonna be back. Wow.

984
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: Anything else on the Panthers absolutely zero. All right, this

985
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis signing off four Quiet Storm, The Mailman,

986
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood sitting on the stool.

987
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: You got You're in a chair progress, Jill Monday, enjoy

988
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: the combine. Yep, yep,