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Speaker 1: My friends named their daughter after my daughter. I'm considering

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Speaker 1: ending our friendship. That's kind of weird, not biting my flow. Also,

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Speaker 1: we're live every weekday at three pm PST. Join our

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Speaker 1: live on YouTube right now. So this is all I

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Speaker 1: answered the question how do you deal with bad friends?

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Speaker 1: This first story comes from Haunting Wing eight four five one,

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Speaker 1: and they say, I, thirty five female, am longtime friends

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Speaker 1: with a married couple forty male and forty two female.

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Speaker 1: I've been distant since the pandemic when their daughter was born,

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Speaker 1: and they just confronted me about it an hour ago.

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Speaker 1: I started distancing when the husband started judging me for

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Speaker 1: not making my marriage work. There were extreme reasons I

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Speaker 1: left that I never really broadcast for my children's sake.

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Speaker 1: Some were very public, which I addressed, but the rest

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Speaker 1: I kept quiet. But the most recent issue is that

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Speaker 1: I lost a child when I was eighteen. She was

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Speaker 1: born alive but survived only a few hours. I chose

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Speaker 1: a name for her that I confided in them that

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Speaker 1: was very special on familial names, but appropriate for a

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Speaker 1: very unexpected and traumatic loss. They used this name for

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Speaker 1: their daughter. Wooh, better than their dog. Better than their dog.

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Speaker 1: I would have had no issue with this, but I

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Speaker 1: found out in the Facebook announcement, which brought back some

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Speaker 1: very painful and traumatic memories. I didn't say anything. I

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Speaker 1: don't own the name, but I felt very disrespected that

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Speaker 1: especially as many in our friend circle know where they

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Speaker 1: got it, and I was put on the spot as

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Speaker 1: far as my reaction. HM well, I distanced myself from them,

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Speaker 1: and about an hour ago I got a message from

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Speaker 1: him that was very angrily worded. Apparently he had been

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Speaker 1: talking to a mutual friend about me and how I've

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Speaker 1: shown no interest in their daughter, and he mentioned that

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Speaker 1: them using the name without a heads up was very

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Speaker 1: painful for me and it had put me on the

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Speaker 1: spot because a lot of people had been asking for

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Speaker 1: my reaction. He called me selfish and an a hole

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Speaker 1: for trying to sully their joy with my pain and

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Speaker 1: making everything about me, and that I should just get

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Speaker 1: over it. She passed away years ago, as in Op's

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Speaker 1: daughter or uh. In my opinion, losing a child is

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Speaker 1: something you never truly get over, and I was never rude.

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Speaker 1: I never spoke badly of them or to them. I

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Speaker 1: want I won't talk about it with anyone. I've just

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Speaker 1: chosen to protect myself and remain distant. I wanted them

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Speaker 1: to enjoy their daughter. They struggled with infertility for years,

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Speaker 1: and I am happy for them. It's just painful for

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Speaker 1: me and I felt very disrespected with how they handled it.

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Speaker 1: So am I the A hole? Was I wrong to

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Speaker 1: distance myself in a twenty year friendship over this or

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Speaker 1: is my reaction reasonable? And some info? They use both

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Speaker 1: the first and middle name down to the spelling. The

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Speaker 1: only difference is the last name. The name was made

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Speaker 1: up a mix of my mom and grandpa's names, and

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Speaker 1: the middle name was my nickname from them as a child.

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Speaker 1: My mom passed when I was a child, and my grandpa,

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Speaker 1: who raised me after my mom passed past three months

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Speaker 1: before my daughter did. And there are relevant comments from

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Speaker 1: OP and an update from OP. But what do we

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Speaker 1: think is OP the a hole basically for distancing themselves

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Speaker 1: from their friends for using a the name of their

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Speaker 1: dead child without asking, and then also the friend basically

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Speaker 1: saying get over it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was like insanely crazy that they that

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Speaker 2: they said that to their their friend, Like that's not

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Speaker 2: This is we've never seen a scenario, Like I don't

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Speaker 2: think we've seen a scenario like and I also think

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Speaker 2: weird for given the context and how it was, like

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Speaker 2: it was like a mashup of two different names.

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Speaker 1: They did the first name and the middle Like why

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Speaker 1: would you It's so it's so thoughtful on op's part

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Speaker 1: and so thoughtless on the friend's part. It's like, why

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Speaker 1: would you choose such a specific name?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm kind of like, like, is there really

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Speaker 2: no like they've picked the first name and the middle

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Speaker 2: ank you're telling me there's literally no other name on

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Speaker 2: planet Earth in the history of names that you can

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Speaker 2: pick that you think would be like more meaningful to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a mashup of and like I think

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Speaker 1: that first thing is already kind of pretty weird. It's not.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily like super bad. It's just

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Speaker 2: It could be fine because like, like a normal scenario

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Speaker 2: I could see happening is like, let's say, like me

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Speaker 2: and my girlfriend have done this, like someone's name on

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Speaker 2: a TV show where we meet is like, uh cool whatever.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's like a cool name. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: then it's like, oh, kind of save that in the

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Speaker 1: But like, I yeah, I don't know why they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: where my like, where my a whole verdict comes from

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Speaker 1: when I'm saying these these this this couple is the

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Speaker 1: get over it. That feels like an order of magnitude,

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Speaker 1: more a holeish than just uh taking the name, which

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Speaker 1: Here's what I think.

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Speaker 2: If it was just like, uh, even if it was

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Speaker 2: just like a a name like like like Jane, that's

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Speaker 2: not like a combination or like like kind of like

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Speaker 2: this like special new cooked up name, it could be

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Speaker 2: uh potentially okay. But this was so specific and they

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Speaker 2: they knew. I think that they had to have so

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Speaker 1: That name top meant? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And also the other thing too, is like what were

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Speaker 2: the actual consequences? People kept going to Op and asking

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Speaker 2: about it, so Op has to relive this over and

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Speaker 2: over with all the friends that are asking her about

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Speaker 2: the baby name, and that's something that OP has to

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Speaker 2: deal with, which is completely completely unfair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when it brings up trauma.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, Like, even if that wasn't their intention, OP

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Speaker 2: still has to deal with all these people like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I heard like they named the baby after your

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what to do? What do you think about that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just like it's pretty bizarre. All right, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go straight into the update. So so uh, the

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Speaker 1: commenter says to you should just get over it. She

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Speaker 1: passed years ago. This person is not your friend. Time

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Speaker 1: to distance yourself permanently. Not the ahle Opie says, I

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Speaker 1: haven't responded to his email. I'm waiting until i'm calmer,

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Speaker 1: but I can't say a plan to be kind. There

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Speaker 1: will definitely be a clear boundary that they are never

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Speaker 1: to contact me again. I wish them well, but they

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Speaker 1: definitely do not continue to have any place in my life.

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Speaker 1: And then another compet says, Op, my heart goes out

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Speaker 1: to you for what you've been through. Your reaction and

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Speaker 1: feelings are very reasonable. Definitely, do not be kind to

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Speaker 1: that person or allow them close anymore. I would even

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Speaker 1: take a screenshot of that email for reference in case

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Speaker 1: anyone in your friend group tries to say you're overreacting

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Speaker 1: and OPI responds, thank you. I forwarded the email to

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Speaker 1: another friend with the clear statement of my boundaries with

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Speaker 1: them going forward, and made absolutely sure they're blocked and everything.

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Speaker 1: I also removed myself from any group chats or Facebook groups.

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Speaker 1: We are all in. No one is very happy with

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Speaker 1: them right now. So this comment is saying OP should

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Speaker 1: be honored. Ye, this sounds like some dumb, childish crap.

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Speaker 1: Oh you took my name. Maybe they didn't hit her

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Speaker 1: up because she's emotionally draining, or just have their lives,

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Speaker 1: or it slipped. She hit them up tripping out. I

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Speaker 1: tell them to f off as well, OPI response, I'm

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Speaker 1: not entirely sure you read my post. I went radio

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Speaker 1: silent after their name announcement. He's angry because I won't

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Speaker 1: talk to them or about them. I certainly never hit

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Speaker 1: them up tripping out, as you so eloquently put it,

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Speaker 1: he hit me up tripping out. Boom. That sounded sounds

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Speaker 1: like when like a principle is like I am, like

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Speaker 1: I was like your trip and principal ge and then

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Speaker 1: the principles like, I am not tripping, Edward, you know,

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Speaker 1: like sounds like that, that's good Edward. This is myself

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Speaker 1: because even I didn't realize how upsetting just hearing her

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Speaker 1: people are blowing up my phone, coming to my house,

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Speaker 1: coming to my job asking me about it. It was

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Speaker 1: a lot on my mental health. After that, it just

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Speaker 1: wasn't worth the drama to bring up or be around them.

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Speaker 1: How in God's name is their conduct and honor for

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Speaker 1: a child they never met, never mourned, and never cared about.

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Speaker 1: I think the main part for me is they don't

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Speaker 1: have to get your blessing to use the name. Opie responds,

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Speaker 1: this is another comment or saying. I think the main

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Speaker 1: part for me is they don't have to get your

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Speaker 1: blessing to use the name. Opie responds, they didn't need

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Speaker 1: my blessing. My issue is that I wasn't allowed to

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Speaker 1: people at work asking me about it. Consideration would have

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Speaker 1: post by a coworker. It's not a common name. It

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Speaker 1: a child. Both had passed a few months before My

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Speaker 1: daughter Opie was voted not the a hole even before

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Speaker 1: the update. But there is another update, and it's quick

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Speaker 1: and it's short.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just going to quickly say that, Like

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Speaker 2: op I wasn't even saying like, oh, they couldn't use

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Speaker 1: And she was.

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Speaker 2: Still like basically inferring that she was okay with people

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Speaker 2: hitting her up and kind of bringing up and trudging

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Speaker 2: up the memory, as long as she had some sort

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and be prepared to be bombarded with all that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she just designed to process. That's literally all she's asking for.

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Speaker 1: But the update, So everyone's over at the house, and

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Speaker 1: I mean everyone. Both my friend groups came over. The

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Speaker 1: called the former friend A and let him know that

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Speaker 1: everyone is cutting ties with him and that he is

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Speaker 1: to leave me alone. Everyone was under the consensus that

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Speaker 1: while the way they handled the name was an issue,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a deal breaker since I chose to just

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Speaker 1: to attack me unprovoked simply for keeping a healthy distance,

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Speaker 1: that's unforgivable. This is entirely their own reaction. I did

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Speaker 1: not DeMay, and they cut ties with him. However, keep

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Speaker 1: in mind that these are people closest to me, so

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Speaker 1: when I called D last night, I was simply reaching

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Speaker 1: jerk reaction was to say, if you want to go low,

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Speaker 1: I made it very clear that I was not continuing

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Speaker 1: not going to dictate their friendships and love them whether

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Speaker 1: Hey, John, how dare you use my past against me?

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Speaker 1: The past is in the past. What matters is the future.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna build with you, me and that other guys.

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Speaker 1: all these hysterical women, am I right, keet, I'm kick KETI.

430
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for male. It's all good male. What

431
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: what's what? There's there's feminist icons? What's the other one?

432
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: Masculine icons? Masculine icons masculine icons. But like, like, what's

433
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: the ist word. There's feminists menist that is a meist.

434
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: That was in uh uh Parks and rec Mes.

435
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had protesting. Really feminists, Well, feminine masculine, so

436
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: it should be masculine, masculinists, fem masculine, feminine feminist, masculist.

437
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: I think it's menonists or male's rights activists out of minimum.

438
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: Okay, let's look it up. These are the things. This

439
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: is how how could you completely disregard and alienate your

440
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: female audience? This is out This what we're doing right now. No,

441
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: just kidding. Actually we have a pretty big female audience,

442
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: so we do. It's until now until now.

443
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: Watch it plummets hashtag free. God bro, that's the problem

444
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: is like there's some people and that ain't supposed to

445
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: be free.

446
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: The term menonism in early two thousands male feminists. No, well,

447
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't want a male feminist. I want a menimist. Yeah, meninist. Okay,

448
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: I think I think meninist. It's slang, but it's there. Okay, Oh,

449
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: men are victimized by feminist Okay, yes, all right, welcome

450
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: to our menonist podcast.

451
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: We talk men's right issues. Yeah, women and children off

452
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: the boat? What about men?

453
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? What about? Why not men? First? I wanted to survive. Please,

454
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: I have just as much to write as the women

455
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 1: to survive the Titanic. Why was Rose the one who

456
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: told the story? There was plenty of room on that plank.

457
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: Come on.

458
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Nights, someone's gonna someone's gonna clip this, upload it to

459
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: four Chan, and we're gonna get like, overnight, a male

460
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 2: men's rights uprising.

461
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: Let's go. They all drive, they drive to LA and like, dude,

462
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: give me the men's rights activists and I will slowly

463
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: pollute their mind with feminists ideology. That's that's the plan.

464
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: That's actually what we're trying. This is the next stage

465
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: and an evolution. We get a group of men's right

466
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: activists right by being super misogynistic, but it's all facade

467
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: to actually change her to mass It's like.

468
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 3: Like we need to control all women. Yeah, yeah, And

469
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 3: the best way to get control is by making someone

470
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 3: think that they're in control. So we're gonna let them

471
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: get have all decisions and autonomy of themselves.

472
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: We're going to take household shores and child rearing and

473
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: share responsibility for those.

474
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: That's right, we're taking it back. Yeah. Power, We're going

475
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: to empower women to have more pay and pursue professionalism

476
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: in the workplace. Maybe we could. That's that.

477
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: That will be our OKOP network documentaries. We start a

478
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: fake men's rights group that's actually poisoning all of their

479
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: minds with the radical feminism.

480
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: Dude, I love it, I love it all right. Story

481
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: after she calmed down, I got a few more answers

482
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: out of her. Turns out, John Fuck, turns out it

483
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: wasn't just one guy. It's never just one guy, never

484
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: just one. See in her mind, lying saying it was

485
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: one guy sounded better than the number that I'm about

486
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: to say. How many, Sam, how many? It's not that bad.

487
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: It was but a total of three, which is the

488
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: plot of Mama Mia. Three guys just get opia there

489
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: and then we got Mama Mia.

490
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: You know what the problem is, what's coming up all

491
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: at once?

492
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: What is coming up? Three? All three all at once? Oh? Now,

493
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: now we really don't know who the father is. Oh damn.

494
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: So you're thinking smoothie smoothis the ohsh they're making some

495
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: cots of cream, some cream ice creamery. What's uh a

496
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: milkshake shake?

497
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: There?

498
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: We go, it's a milk. It's a nut jal shake,

499
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: nut juice milkshake, Almond almond nut juice milkshake. Yes, yeah,

500
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: you gotta have those plungers plunge in getting that little frothy.

501
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: He's doing some some milk and the milk sack and

502
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: and just you know, it's kind of like the old days.

503
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: You know how they curdled milk with those freaking like

504
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: churning butter. That's what they call it, triple triple churned.

505
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, they're paying for that good good. It's just

506
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: it's just what it is. I have to say. I

507
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: have to tell the truth.

508
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: Triple turned all right. At this point I should have

509
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: been furious, but somehow that didn't happen. No, I just

510
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: wanted her back. Oh no, I don't know if he

511
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: had better more self respect than that. He grown numb

512
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: to the whole situation. So yeah, I decided maybe I

513
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't go through with this marriage and put everything on

514
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: all thanks. I planned to actually cancel everything. Bro, They're

515
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: two weeks away from their marriage. Sane. I called my

516
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: parents and explained what was going on. They were shocked.

517
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: Then I told her parent, Oh, same reaction, I was

518
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: surprised with how understanding they were to the whole situation.

519
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: Like I said, they're great people and their reaction only

520
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: reinforces this. Luckily, Luckily, Luckily, the wedding was within driving

521
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: distance from all attendees, eight hours being the longest drive.

522
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: The amount of fallout was minimal. Besides, you know, its

523
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: whole relationship and it's not being his own. Not bad, minimal.

524
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: Apart from my and her parents, no one else really

525
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: knows what's going on other than the wedding being delayed. Mmkay.

526
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: Regarding my DoD quotes, I've come to terms that she's

527
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: not mine and any feelings I have towards her were

528
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: built on a lie. It's not too late to start over.

529
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: She's still young. One year, she won't even remember me.

530
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: As painful as it is, I can't see my life

531
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: continuing with her. So that daughter. Wow, no daddy for her.

532
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: I see a stripper in eighteen years seventy. We're one year.

533
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: We're one year down. Oh god, we're so bad we are?

534
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 5: I think this is still le Yes, don't fucking arrest me? Bro, God, golly,

535
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 5: we the people, Oh my goodness.

536
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: Ally, wait, we have fifty seconds before turns off. Oh shit,

537
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: shit shit, all right. So to wrap things up, I've

538
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: moved out for the time being, so i have space.

539
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: My parents said I can stay with them until I

540
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: sort things out. I'm waiting on the results of an

541
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: STD test, which should be coming in tomorrow. I've talked

542
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: to a lawyer and she said it's a pretty messy situation.

543
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: I can attest to that, and I'm not even a lawyer.

544
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: But if we can find out who the father is,

545
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: it could help the case. I don't know any of

546
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: the possible fathers because she's a hoe and she just

547
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: slept around with random people. But her friend quotes instantly

548
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: knew two of the names, daning that friend took. She

549
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: kept way too many secrets for way long, way too many. Yeah,

550
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: I see a good friend or a bad friend. I

551
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: guess she ultimately told the truth. So is that probably good? Probably,

552
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: I'll do good good. She kept it too long though, Yeah,

553
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: but I mean she's not his friend. Oh, that's true,

554
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: she told the truth. She's a good person friend. Yeah. Yeah.

555
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: Can you be a good friend without being a good person? Probably? Yeah,

556
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: depends on how fup your friends are. That's true. You

557
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: gotta hide their dirty laundry. That's true, there's a lot

558
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: of dirty laundry. As for the third, she wasn't sure,

559
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: but just knew someone who might. So this where I

560
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: am still not sure where things will go and what

561
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: will happen, but I can only hope for the best.

562
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: Life sometimes takes a fat, fat shit on you, but

563
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: you don't realize that you've been shot on until someone

564
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: shows you where the shit is. Thanks for your out.

565
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: I wish I could tell you I'm looking forward to

566
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: a happy ending, but no fairy tale ending for me.

567
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: In sights, I'm not too sure about anything in this life. Well,

568
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: should have clenched your butt cheeks, Yeah, why don't you

569
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: clench your butt cheeks? Man, should have squeezed it, sque

570
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: closed that shit inside you so it doesn't spill out

571
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: and even and bring an umbrella because you know, you

572
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: never know who's shitting above you. That's it. That's why

573
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: I bring an umbrella to the beach all the time.

574
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: Those seagulls, dude, had to get you. They're like World

575
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: War two bombers, and their cheeks are open. Their cheeks

576
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: are open. They don't have a sphincter. It's just a tube.

577
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: It's literally just a tube I had. I raised a

578
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: duck into adulthood, and let me tell you those things

579
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: cannot be body trained. Wow. Good to know. Never knew that.

580
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: It's fun fact. Fun fact, fun fact, not fun if

581
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: you have to pick up the ship.

582
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: I thought my dad died, but my real father revealed

583
00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: he's still alive.

584
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: Okop, this is Okayop. I'm Samuel Daughter and I'm John

585
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: Fry and we tell the funniest stories on Reddit and

586
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: the Internet. To John, please please tell me your story.

587
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: I want to hear it. I want to be uplifted

588
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: by it. I want to feel the wind beneath my toes,

589
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: by your breath that is telling this story. That was beautiful.

590
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if you'll be uplifted, but you'll definitely

591
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: be shocked. I can guarantee you that.

592
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: All right, let's see it.

593
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: I thought my dad died, but my real father revealed

594
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: he's still alive.

595
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, back from the dead.

596
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: Not quite zombie dad, zombie daddy.

597
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: Starting off on a high note, my dad died when

598
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: I was eight years old. Oh no, uh, well the

599
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 2: man I thought, who was my dad died?

600
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: This is like, there's like a lot of intrigue here. Yeah,

601
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: they're like the man that I thought was the dad.

602
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: My mom dated other men, but she's never remarried or

603
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: had a serious living boyfriend since I've basically been without

604
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: a dad when I was eight. But earlier today, this

605
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: man came into my work. I work in a movie

606
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 2: theater in the concession stand by the way. So this

607
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: man came in and kept letting people go ahead of

608
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: him in line until I was done helping all the customers.

609
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: I didn't think anything at first, but this guy was

610
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: kind of nervous but trying to talk to me. He

611
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: asked what I recommended to eat and what kind of

612
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: movies I liked. He seemed friendly but shy, and you know,

613
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: I was just being polite, doing as I do with

614
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: customers regularly. So he paid and left, and I didn't

615
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: see when his movie finished because I was busy, or

616
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: maybe he didn't watch a movie.

617
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: Anyway.

618
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: I got off work a little bit ago, and when

619
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: I got home, this same man was standing in my

620
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: living room. Wait what, the same guy from the movie

621
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: The living Room? Okay, in his living room and he

622
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: was talking to my mom, and it honestly kind of

623
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: creeped me.

624
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: Out, and then my mom.

625
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: Saw me and started panicking when I asked who it was,

626
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: and she kept saying, he's no one and he's leaving.

627
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: But the man said he wasn't leaving until we talked,

628
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: and said, my mom needs to tell me the truth.

629
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: Can you imagine God to just say, like, well, you

630
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: know what you stumble into, like something that you know

631
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: is juicy?

632
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Like I feel like OPI just stumbled into

633
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: a very juicy conversation and he's not allowed, like he's

634
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: not about to just let that shit go. Oh not

635
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: at all.

636
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: This is like, this is like the craziest like you know,

637
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: family history movie.

638
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, why is he here? Why the truth?

639
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: Shannon, You can know the truth, Opie says, well as

640
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: you can probably guess from the title.

641
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: This guy is my dad. Wow. I just felt this

642
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: twist in my stomach.

643
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: My mom started rambling and saying that my dad that

644
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: had died was my real dad and how much he

645
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: loved me and took care of me, and this doesn't

646
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: change that. The thing is something happened last year that

647
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: made me question my mom and my dad in my

648
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: medical history. My mom said she didn't know anything about it,

649
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: but today I just yelled at her, saying that she

650
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: could have told me then and there that he wasn't

651
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 2: my biological father, and she didn't.

652
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: She lied. Wait, so the dead dad is not the

653
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: biological yeah.

654
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: The mom was basically saying like, no, don't listen to

655
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: this guy. Your dead father is your real father. And

656
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: he's like, why are you lying to me right now? Basically,

657
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: But then I asked if this man was telling the truth,

658
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: and at this point my mom just started crying and nodding.

659
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: That's an answer. That's an answer, man, that's an answer.

660
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't notice at the movie theater because

661
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: it was never something i'd even look for. But looking

662
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: at him, it's pretty clear that we look very alike,

663
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: or I guess I look like him. He tried to

664
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: talk to me and swore he never knew I existed,

665
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: or else he would have been in my life.

666
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: My mom didn't deny any of this.

667
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: I asked her if this man was dangerous or an

668
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: abusive X or something he was offended, and she assured

669
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: me that it wasn't that at all. She wanted to

670
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: sit down and talk, but I just felt so nauseous

671
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: and so overwhelmed. I just grabbed my keys and told

672
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: my mom I was staying at my best friend Josh's

673
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: house for the night.

674
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: Dude, there's so much to process there, Like you could

675
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: talk for hours about like what the heck is going on?

676
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: What's your relationship with this person? Why wasn't this person

677
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: in my life? Like why is he finding out? Now?

678
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: There's so many unanswered questions and I can understand. OPI

679
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: is like, all right, this is too much. I need

680
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: a peace out and process seriously. And he's only seventeen,

681
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: so like, oh wow, yeah, so OPI is young.

682
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: So I came to Josh's and Joshua was sympathetic and

683
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: he let me vent, but he didn't end up falling

684
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: asleep though. Now I'm just sitting here awake and my

685
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: brain will not shut off. I feel so betrayed by

686
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 2: my mom. How could she not tell me the truth?

687
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: I would have understood when I was little, But now

688
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm old enough to know where I came from. It

689
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: feels so unfair that she denied me a father for

690
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 2: half of my life.

691
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: Now.

692
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: I love my dad that died and I still miss him,

693
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: but I've wanted a father now for so long because

694
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: his father died when he was eight.

695
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he wants that father figure. Oh for sure.

696
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: There's so much that I've gone through where I feel

697
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: like having a dad would have made it so much

698
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: better and easier. And don't get me wrong, I love

699
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: my mom, She's incredible, but it's not the same as

700
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: also having a dad, especially when this guy is my

701
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: actual dad and it seems like he would have done

702
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: something if he knew.

703
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: And it seems like like based on everything that's happened,

704
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: seems like he's a relatively good guy.

705
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: It's it seems like he at least want to be

706
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: engaged at a bare band minimum right now. Opie says, Look,

707
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say to this guy or

708
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: to my mom. I know I do have to eventually

709
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: go home, but I just don't know what I'm supposed

710
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: to say or do. He probably hates me and thinks

711
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: I'm a cry baby because I cried and storm out.

712
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: I feel so lost, which that is so sad, you know,

713
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: Like I know has this negative view of himself because

714
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 2: he's ah my anyway.

715
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: And that's like I feel like we could like squarely say,

716
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: like the dad probably does not think that of OPI No, no, no, no, no,

717
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: nor is it's such an emotional time.

718
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not wrong at all to cry and storm.

719
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: I mean, you're just your brain just explodes with.

720
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, Like imagine, your whole framework of who

721
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: you are and what your life is has just been obliterated,

722
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: and now you have to piece it together. Like that's

723
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: emotionally draining and taxing and.

724
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: It's seventeen yeah to do with so Opie says, I

725
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: went to go home and.

726
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: Talked to my mom.

727
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: I was much calmer, with a clear head and was

728
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: ready to hear what she had to say. I probably

729
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: learned more than anyone should ever know about their own conception.

730
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: So it turns out my father is not an abusive X.

731
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: My mom didn't cheat on my adopted dad or anything

732
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: shady at all. I'm just the product of a one

733
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: night stand. My mom said she was out at the

734
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: bar by herself and she met my dad, who was

735
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: celebrating his twenty fifth birthday alone. My mom said she

736
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: had just been dumped by for her fiance at the time,

737
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 2: not my adopted dad, totally different guy a week before,

738
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: and that happened because she learned from the doctor that

739
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: it was virtually impossible for her to have a child naturally.

740
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's hard, really.

741
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 2: Really rough, right, she said, her and my dad did

742
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 2: use protection, but somehow she still had me. So I'm

743
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: her miracle baby considering the circumstances.

744
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? Jeez? Can you think you're doing everything

745
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: right still have a baby.

746
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: She went back to the hotel that he took her

747
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: to after she found out that she was pregnant, but

748
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: they couldn't find any info on my dad staying there.

749
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: He didn't actually give her his real first name. You

750
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: gave her a fake first name.

751
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: Ah. She said.

752
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: This was before social media was a thing, so she

753
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: couldn't just like search him up online, so she decided

754
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: she would just have to raise me on her own.

755
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: She also admitted that she panicked when my biological dad

756
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: showed up because to her, he was literally just this

757
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: guy from a random one night stands seventeen years ago.

758
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: Like imagine Like it was overwhelmed for the mom too,

759
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure so she ended up panicking.

760
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 1: How did they find each other?

761
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: I think the guy found out and reached out to her,

762
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: but I don't even know that if they how do.

763
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: You find that? Yeah? Maybe it's like some twenty three

764
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: and me, shit. Yeah, maybe maybe.

765
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: She didn't really know who he was, or if he

766
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: was going to try and get custody of me, or

767
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: if I was going to try and run away with

768
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: him or something like that. My mom admits that she

769
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: could have been calmer from the beginning, and maybe we

770
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: could have all talked and sorted it out. But honestly,

771
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: at this point, I don't blame her for it. As

772
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: for my adaptive dad, the man that raised me, she

773
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: said that she didn't meet him until I was almost two.

774
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, this is late in life. Late

775
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: in life.

776
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: They got married when I was three, and then he

777
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: officially adopted me. After they got married. She showed me

778
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: the official adoption certificate to prove it. Reflecting on it now,

779
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: I realize that I've never seen a picture of my

780
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: dad and I when I was a baby, just pictures

781
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: of me as a toddler and up. She said that

782
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: he accepted me as his own, loved me, and was

783
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: and absolutely considered himself my father. I told her my

784
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: bio dad showing up doesn't rewrite history. I'll never not

785
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: see my adoptive dad as my father. If anything, it

786
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: makes me love him even more knowing that he treated

787
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: me and loved me as his own flesh and blood.

788
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: Wow, it's so nice. That's so wholesome. Wholesome you know,

789
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: is at the end. There we go, that's the end. Wow.

790
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: I love that ending. That's a great ending. And I

791
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: think for all those single moms out there and for

792
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: people looking to date single moms, accept those kids as

793
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: your own. Hey, come on, you know, yeah, and I'll

794
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: come on adopt them, you know, the the gut kids leads.

795
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: It leads to beautiful stories like this story and some

796
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: maybe someday you can be on OKOP if you play

797
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: your cards right. Hey, there we go. But you know,

798
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: if you don't have a daddy to call your own,

799
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: you can always call us daddy and make sure that

800
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: you subscribe on YouTube and follow us on the podcast.

801
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: And if you really want to call this daddy and

802
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: all those dirty names, we know you do. When you

803
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: know we don't you say underneath the colors, make sure

804
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Speaker 1: you follow the lead of our main lady, Kathy Quiggly.

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Speaker 1: Kathy Quiggly our first Patreon supporter, but hopefully not our

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Speaker 1: last support is a Patreon If you want to see

807
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Speaker 1: more stories like this.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the stretches we're going to connect the story with

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Speaker 2: the with the follow is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Just keep upping the ante always help the anti baby

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