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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chess motherfucking podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like, that's your boy

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Speaker 1: in no R. He's a Miami hip popper, pioneer. Up

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Speaker 1: is d j e f N. Together they drinking up

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Speaker 1: with some of the biggest players in the most professional,

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Speaker 1: unprofessional podcast and yet number one sorts for drunk fast

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Speaker 1: Rich New Year's time for Drink Champs. Trick up the

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Speaker 1: What'll it good be? Hopey want to shoot me? This

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Speaker 1: is your point? N A O A what up is

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Speaker 1: d j e f N. That's the saming crazy world

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Speaker 1: Radio Drink Chess minix up where mediaf and started this show.

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Speaker 1: We started and we said we wanted to give people,

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Speaker 1: you know, the flowers. That is season of its legends.

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Speaker 1: And when we're talking about legends, we're talking about real

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Speaker 1: people who create, who paved the way for both of

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Speaker 1: us to be here. These dudes have told all over

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Speaker 1: the world. They told like restless, I feel like there

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Speaker 1: was thew These guys has transition, has stayed who they are,

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Speaker 1: but crossed over, but stay who they are. The first

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Speaker 1: people to light up in anywhere on stage, especially Saturday

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Speaker 1: Night Live. Had we watched that. I watched the documentary.

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Speaker 1: These guys are legends, a legends. They paved the way.

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Speaker 1: If you are Latino, if you are a smoke man,

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Speaker 1: if you are a person who loved music, if you're

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Speaker 1: a person who loved raving, all this, all that, that

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Speaker 1: ship is just all combined together for the most selling

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Speaker 1: Latino group of all times. When we had to google

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Speaker 1: it myself in case you don't know who the we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, we talked about our homies, our family. The

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Speaker 1: one thing watching the documentary is one of the first

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Speaker 1: things I noticed is it was Cyper's av It's not

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Speaker 1: Cypress Hill, right, So why did your name is Cypress

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Speaker 1: Hills if it was all Cypress? Okay? So, like before

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Speaker 1: we really got on, we were called dv X right,

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Speaker 1: Devastating Vocal Excellence. As corny as it might be, that's

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Speaker 1: what it was. But when we got on, we had

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Speaker 1: to change our name to something. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mugs was constantly bringing East Coast music over to to

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Speaker 1: send Dog and myself and one of the one of those,

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Speaker 1: uh one of those albums was Wild Style. It was

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Speaker 1: the soundtrack for the movie and uh In. In one

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Speaker 1: of those joints, um ram Melz references Cypress Hill. He

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Speaker 1: lives send dog lived on Cypress av So we thought

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Speaker 1: Cypress Hill. But there is a hill, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, there's a street. There's another street down.

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Speaker 1: I lived on Dearborn. Yeah, yeah, really, Lollipop the preschool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I went to that school. No, no ship, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, that just seemed like the natural

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Speaker 1: way to go. So that's why a lot of people

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Speaker 1: thought we were from the East Coast in the beginning,

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Speaker 1: because of that little flip right there. You know. Otherwise

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Speaker 1: we've been called Cypress Avenue or some other ship. It fits.

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Speaker 1: It fits because when I looked at the damn it

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Speaker 1: Cypress have I said, how did they get Cypress Hills?

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Speaker 1: So it never dawned on me. Well, let's go straight

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Speaker 1: to you. It's I was coming to dressing room. They

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Speaker 1: tell you not to stop smoking because you were smoking. Now,

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Speaker 1: I was rolling out the documentary. It was rehearsal. I

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Speaker 1: was rolling up a rehearsal, rolling up the day before.

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Speaker 1: This is the day. It was the day, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, don't smoke Okay, I ain't gonna smoke, but

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Speaker 1: it on you. And that was like, well they knew

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Speaker 1: what they knew, something was gonna happen because we're being

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Speaker 1: Sony Columbia smoking. Nobody was smoking Columbia records, but Downyana

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Speaker 1: would be like the ciper still leave him alone. Wherever

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Speaker 1: we went, we was. We was blazing and getting kicked

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Speaker 1: you know, it was like don't smoke, don't smoke, don't smoke.

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Speaker 1: It's like dressing room and dress then, and they said

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, funk damn. You know, because we

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Speaker 1: were young and aggressive, we just really didn't give a funk.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to figure this whole music shot out and

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Speaker 1: be fucking courteous, you know what I mean, to be

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Speaker 1: these motherfucker's my light up and we'll Saturday in New

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Speaker 1: York this time, because you know it's crazy. Now New

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Speaker 1: have us back. Now there's my point, you know, you

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Speaker 1: the turn tables burning, Bobo's cone goes on fire, like

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Speaker 1: this is how Cypress Hill ends the show, right, And

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Speaker 1: we were ending tours like that, and then we started

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Speaker 1: doing it every show. We bought these shitty turntables mugs

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Speaker 1: we'd fucking smashed the set. So the plan was to

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Speaker 1: he went, we had to do it at the beginning

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Speaker 1: we didn't want to do it the first song. It

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Speaker 1: on there and they was talking they was gonna do something.

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Speaker 1: was like, we got to do it at the second

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Speaker 1: when I lit up there, everybody knew that already that

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Speaker 1: he was gonna do that. Pretty much. We all had

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Speaker 1: make that statement. But they kept working with him, you

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Speaker 1: because you know, we we come from that punk rock

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Speaker 1: state of mind where like, if you tell us not to,

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Speaker 1: gonna really show you that we're going to. And he

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Speaker 1: did it off the rip, and you know what, for

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Speaker 1: And they don't cut his part out and just kept

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Speaker 1: kept smoking the like that adds to our myth, you know,

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Speaker 1: in our legend. I think you know that we would

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Speaker 1: it added to our story. Man in a in a

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Speaker 1: We took. No, we fucking got a w off that

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Speaker 1: because at that time, and it says it in a documentary,

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Speaker 1: you know, because obviously people were making references as we were,

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Speaker 1: But I don't remember what was the first show, but

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Speaker 1: someone through a joint on stage, because that would happen

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Speaker 1: to us, We get joints rained down. One day, I

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Speaker 1: everywhere with my own weed though, because like that's how

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing records. Everybody was talking about don't smoke, like,

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Speaker 1: it was off expression brain damage. But I mean after that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, and uh, it flipped people. It It made

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Speaker 1: It was nothing planning, you know, like we gotta be

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Speaker 1: just who we were. We smoked a lot of weed.

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Speaker 1: We love to do music, and we didn't give off

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Speaker 1: That's when I first met Cypress. This they're opening up

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Speaker 1: So you know, uh, they had a better weed, you know.

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Speaker 1: Beast the Boys rappers, you know, dominating these festivals back then.

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Speaker 1: Just turntables, right, it wasn't you didn't have the band yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how was that culture? Shock? Weird? Weird at fu? You

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Speaker 1: for you know, our album covers, which I think is

427
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: a whole other element that in hip hop. I don't

428
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: think it was a strong like the way the imagery,

429
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: the logo like all that just made it so much more.

430
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: The record labels wanted to show the faces of the

431
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 1: faces their marketing. Right here, let me show you these

432
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: fresh fucking faces. This we want you to buy these guys, right,

433
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,239
Speaker 1: and you know, we just didn't do that. We were like,

434
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: we see something else and that was thanks too much,

435
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: just like by the vibe, you know what I mean,

436
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: by the vibe, that's what we was about, by the vibe,

437
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: not by the faces. Like a lot of people didn't

438
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: know what the funk? Who the funk? And you know

439
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: you're dressing you on your cover and then that that

440
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: that gears played out to look at the cover and

441
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: the cover looks dated, you know what I mean? We

442
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: just keep it timeless, and that logo just became iconic

443
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: like forever. So let me ask y'all because like you know,

444
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: we've seen run DMC and we've seen the Beastie Boys, right,

445
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: but it was like y'all music like like even let's

446
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: just like DMC doesn't have a record call you just

447
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: Kill a Man? Yeah, that was like it's nothing, but

448
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: it was different, like how did y'all have balance having

449
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: a record called like how I could just kill a man?

450
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: Still be on festivals and it's on the stage is

451
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: like how the fun and no one's offended, like you

452
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: guys who like it's like, it's crazy because the ship

453
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: on the radio when we was making music with MC, hammer,

454
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: Vanilla Ice, Jazz, jeffrom, the Fresh Prince and w A

455
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: comes and were coming and when we come and kill

456
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: a man, all of a sudden, that's on daytime radio.

457
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: Andre's on daytime radio, and Snoops on daytime radio. Like

458
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: for about those five years, it just done flipped up

459
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker. Sometimes when we're playing this song, I

460
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: think just that, like how the fuck you know it? Well?

461
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: You know it's still it's justified how you kill a man? Right? Um, yeah,

462
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: it's a trip, you know. I didn't expect that to

463
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: be you know what what it became. I don't think

464
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: any of us did. We knew we had something, but

465
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: we didn't know what what was gonna hit and you know,

466
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: thanks to the DJs. Salute to all the DJ's that

467
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: flipped that record and and hit that that song because

468
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: it was a double a sign funky Feel one and

469
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: how I could just kill him then. But at the time,

470
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: because we're a you know, a group that talks about

471
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: weed and its hip hop and we're talking about some

472
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: violent ship, they choose. They chose to push as and

473
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: Sony chose to push Um Funky Field one because they

474
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: figured that was more marketable and it was cool, but

475
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: it wasn't really resonating. That's why that first six months

476
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: no one knew who the funk we were. And then

477
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: DJ's flipped that record and to add on to that,

478
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: you had the Juice soundtrack right that, you know, it

479
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: makes it makes it the time frame with Chuck Chuck

480
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: d and the Bomb Squad were doing the score and

481
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: the music for that, they heard out I Could just

482
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: kill a man and they were like, that's got to

483
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: be the main song and I need to know the story.

484
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean so like so, the combination of the DJ's

485
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: flipping that song and the momentum that was getting on

486
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: the mixed shows every day play it wasn't getting rotation play,

487
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: but it was getting mixed show heavy mix show play,

488
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: and then the video starts hitting. I mean, fuck, what

489
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: was crazy is that we were on tour with Naughty

490
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: by Nature and we hadn't made a video to kill

491
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: a man yet or hand on the pump, but the

492
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: song starting to go right and this is just before

493
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: this is before juice. This is like when the mixed

494
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: shows start playing the ship. They pull us off the

495
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: road to film those two videos. I think we were

496
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: in Virginia or something like that, and Sony makes the

497
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: call pull him off the road. They gotta come to

498
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: two days to film such and such and such and

499
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: such kill a man in hand on the pump. So

500
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: we knock it out, jump back on the road with

501
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: Naughty and continue to fucking move and then eventually this

502
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: juice thing happens propels the fucking song. This is like, yeah,

503
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: well it's yeah, as we released in August, so it

504
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: was yeah, it was probably early two, right somewhere around there,

505
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: or no, that had to be like late ninety one

506
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: because it was O P P. That was the big

507
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: song at that time and we were we were opening

508
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: for them at that time. Like Tretch was always family

509
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: with us, and they wanted us to come on and

510
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: overly for them, speaking about the Juice sound track. Each

511
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: oh yeah, well ye digital Underground, Digital Underground, there was

512
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: our homies, so that they would come to l A.

513
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: They call us. We'd roll up to the shows because

514
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: technically Digital Underground isn't from l A. Yeah, and we

515
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: we we knew them through a guy named Jerry Davis

516
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: who worked for ASCAP, who was one of the guys

517
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: that he was like the first believer in us, I think,

518
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: so salute to fucking Jerry Davis. But he introduces us

519
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: to money Be and and the rest of the guys.

520
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: So we become friends, and like moug said, we'd go

521
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: to their shows and stuff like that. And so when

522
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: we got it on now and then when we go

523
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: up to the Bay, you know, Park would come hang

524
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: out with us and smoke us out sometimes just to

525
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: go have our back. I remember one time we were

526
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: having to show in Berkeley somewhere because y'all going Berkeley. Yeah,

527
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: all right, Boomy pulls out a big gass hand cannon

528
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: and I fucking oounced to some green Bay area weed

529
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: and was like I got your back, Like all right,

530
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: let's go himself. Park himself, he didn't have a bunch

531
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: of homies by himself, and he would come hang out

532
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: with us and and he was one thousand about that ship,

533
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: and you know we relate to that. We're like, hell yeah,

534
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: let's go and uh ship. I remember one show we

535
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: did with UM. We were opening for UM third Base.

536
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: I think it was their last tour, their last big

537
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: tour before they sort of went away. UM. It was

538
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: us him Dog in Third Base and we were at

539
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: the DNA lounge where we filmed eventually filmed UM Insane

540
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: in the Brain years later. We filmed it there because

541
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: it's historic place to us. Anyway, we're in this venue,

542
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: Park shows up and uh, I remember this one dude

543
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: getting dragged in the dressing room and beat up by

544
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: these fools and throwing the right the funk out. It

545
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: was like real on some ship to to you guys,

546
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: did anybody could jump in on this one? Was Park

547
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: the same guy from Digital Underground on on Death Row

548
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: or that was two different individuals. He definitely evolved and

549
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, he saw things maybe a little bit different,

550
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: and obviously he was rolling with a crazily different squad

551
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: at that point. You know, I hadn't talked to him

552
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: in that time when he was rolling with that squad,

553
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, because I mean we were constantly gone. I mean,

554
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: next time I seen him, he was in New York

555
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: with with the live squad sting them. Yeah, yeah, I

556
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: mean yeah. Sometimes when we do, remember when they would

557
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: do the Jack the Rappers and all those sorts of conventions,

558
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: we'd all hang out together then, like you know, it'd

559
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: be Tretch Park, the Brand, Nubians, Buster Um Tribe, well,

560
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: Q Tips sometimes Fife, you know, and we'd all be

561
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: up just chilling, smoking blunts back when I smoked blunts,

562
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: and uh, we go to blunt with one hand. I

563
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: used to be it with two. I haven't tried to

564
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: when you're young. So let me ask you. I'll switching

565
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: the subject a little bit. Um, How do you described

566
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: just now like you're saying Buster Tribe like the way

567
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: y'all the way it seems like it was. It was

568
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: in this time there was no East coast, West coast,

569
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: not for us, not for us. I used to come

570
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: out the clubs in New York before we were signed,

571
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: before Busting Them was signed. I'll be at I go

572
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: to the Long Islan railroad to catch a train back

573
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: there would be that I had the Cyperus Hill Demos

574
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: are the leaders of the New school demos like early

575
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: days like that, right, So so let me ask you

576
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: all from the days going from there to this East

577
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: Coast West Coast, how did y'all feel at that time?

578
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: And y'all didn't. It didn't feel like a beef. I

579
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: don't think it was West Coast. It was like, yeah,

580
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: their motherfucker's right there, but there was nobody else. Yeah,

581
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: we never felt the heat of that, you know what

582
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because we you know, we know that we

583
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: we we sprung off from the East Coast. If it

584
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: wasn't for the East Coast accepting us first, um, we

585
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: don't get on. It's like that old ship that they

586
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: used to say. You know, if you can get on

587
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: in the East Coast, you could get it on anywhere.

588
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: You can make it there, you can make it anywhere, right,

589
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: And that was true for us because the West Coast

590
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: accepted us after the East Coast did. Because we were

591
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: not a traditional West Coast group. They just weren't gonna

592
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: get it unless y'all did. And so that's what happened

593
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: for us. There. That's real. That's real because um, a

594
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: lot of us grow up and that's all they know

595
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: is this East Coast West Coast. But we just hearing

596
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: you described that era, it was just like I just

597
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: I went to a chi would be in New York,

598
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: would be in the tunneling is that we kept rooted

599
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: in New York, you know what I'm saying. Like up

600
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: until the pandemic, we were doing a show that we

601
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: call Haunted Hill there every October for like twenty how

602
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: many years, bobo, like twenty two out of the thirty years,

603
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: and we just stopped at the pandemic. So we're constantly

604
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: going back and feeding that that core base that that

605
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: was our East Coast family there, you know what I'm saying.

606
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: So you know, we never felt all that ship about

607
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: the East Coast and West Coast being We thought it

608
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. It's like that magazine print that said East

609
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: Coast versus West Coast. But it wasn't the people. It

610
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: only existed for certain groups that were actually beating. It

611
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the coast. The only you know,

612
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: the only had it was was the proximity. These guys

613
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: happened to be here, These guys are gonna be over here.

614
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: But it's got nothing to do with the rest. But

615
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: but but the media perpetuated something different and there's reasons

616
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: for that. But that's a whole different conversation. Yeah, yeah,

617
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: that's that's great. No, But it was so dope to

618
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: hear y'all speak like that, because, um, you know, people

619
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: forget that times, people forget the times that it was like.

620
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: You know, it's because I don't remember I was on

621
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: depth dam at one point. This is after Biggie died

622
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: and I would land and they just be like security,

623
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: you gotta go, because it was just so on guard,

624
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because after we always happened,

625
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, you ever thought I

626
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: was gonna get this serious? Though? Like once once they

627
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: started beefend Well, you know, when when you got cats

628
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: that that you know, they may not be the ones

629
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: that are like still living that ship, but they got

630
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: homies around them, It's it's bound to happen, right if

631
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: if you got those kind of cats in your circle,

632
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: Because somebody's gonna stand up for you even when you

633
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: don't need them to, don't want them to, and don't

634
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: expect him to and then that's when ship happens. You

635
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: can't bring that gangster ship into the music. We're trying

636
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: to get out of this situation to get into a

637
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: better place and inspire motherfucker's to do the same thing, right,

638
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: get out and do something better. And a lot of

639
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: the times you see motherfucker as well. Since from about

640
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: ninety six or ninety seven and up, you see a

641
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: change where it's like more motherfucker's are talking about doing

642
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: fucked up ship, and they're allowing this on the radio

643
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, where before they wouldn't allow us

644
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: to talk and allow singles like this, you know. So

645
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: now it's more about mindless ship, you know, and less substance.

646
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: You listen to the music, some of it, there's some good.

647
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a lot of ship because you know,

648
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: I spend two I learned from DJ Muggs from way

649
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: back in the day when he was taking those trips

650
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: back back East. I get on his turntables when I'd

651
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: be watching you know, the crib, and so like I

652
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: still funk with records today, I still spend so hit

653
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 1: to what's going Yeah, So like that, there's there's some Yeah,

654
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: you think a lot of new artists. Yeah, and you

655
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: stay fresh like that because you know what's out there,

656
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's what keeps us all

657
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: still sharp to this day, is that we listen to

658
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: to ship, you know, Like Muggs told me, and I

659
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: always say this, you know, if you want to be

660
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: the best, you gotta listen to what the best is

661
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: out there, no matter you know, how you think you are,

662
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And so you have to

663
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: keep doing that as you evolve as an artist and

664
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: you you progress, so you know, we stay up on

665
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: game like that. But there is a lot of garbage,

666
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: but there always has been. There's always been as much

667
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: specially just makes us sound better. Yeah, yeah, you need

668
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: to garbage, you know what I mean. Even even even

669
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: in our early days in the nineties, there was hip

670
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: hop that was that ship, and then there was the

671
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: ship we didn't listen to because it it wasn't slightly

672
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: wasn't that ship, you know, I mean, yeah, I mean

673
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: there's plenty of records. I mean, but that's always a cycle.

674
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: But it's all, you know, subjective, it's what you like, right.

675
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: So there there's some some young artists that I foxed

676
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: with and something that I definitely don't. Well, let me

677
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: let you know, pick up to our people, Cherry Colorado.

678
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Let's give these. But you know, our show is about

679
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: the show. Our show was about giving people their flowers

680
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: while they alive, giving people their flowers. So we wanted

681
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: to give each of every one of your your own flowers. Yeah,

682
00:37:54,080 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: that's right, we're bringing flowers. Bring a kind of flowers.

683
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: Cool where the flower? Right? You used to be able

684
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: to roll the joint with one hand? Yeah, before we

685
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: created the funky field tips. Yeah, would Yeah, I could.

686
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: I could roll it with one hand because I heard

687
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: joint both because I heard Willie Nelson could do it.

688
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: So I would practice it and I eventually got it.

689
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: It's a bitch man, you're cramp your hand will cramp

690
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: the food. Yeah, can we see it? Can we see it?

691
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: I've been not blocking nothing right. Wow. Joint relationship with

692
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: Hot Times, well, you know Hot Times was like they

693
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: were like, um, you know, they heard about this hip

694
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: hop group that was championing cannabis, and so they wanted

695
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: us on the cover and that sort of opened up

696
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: the bridge between the cannabis community and hip hop right there.

697
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: And then after that, you know that that that issue

698
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: did so well, and we we built a strong relationship

699
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: with them with High Times that they had other hip

700
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: hop groups and we were the first one there, the

701
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: other first a lot of things, and we did parties

702
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: with High Times at the Wetlands, remember that spot, like smashing,

703
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: like off the hook like this. I mean it's a

704
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: little club, but it was jam packed. And when we

705
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: were doing shows, uh for High Times, events like old

706
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: school High Times events, the small ones with Chef Raw

707
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: and all those dudes rest in peace, um man, they

708
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: were fucking awesome shows, awesome parties at Wetlands packed like

709
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: this and motherfucker's just rocking to to our hip hop

710
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: set like it was just unexperienced and that the little

711
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: things like that sort of built our relationship with High Times,

712
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: and they always lifted us up and they found something

713
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: in us. And then they started seeing something and like

714
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: read eventually math and eventually Snooping, and you know, the

715
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: list goes on. It was Khalifa. They start started opening

716
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: up to hip hop because who better to fucking Champion Cannabis.

717
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we went from the step a

718
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: step child renegade genre right there is non apologetic. That's

719
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: the best platform for cannabis right because no one else

720
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: is doing this for this for this community right now.

721
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: And so you know, they embraced us. We embraced them,

722
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: and I think hip hop did as well. And a

723
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 1: lot of hip hop kids that were like just reading

724
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: and the source start working with High Times Magazine now

725
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: and vice versa. You know, the the alternative kids that

726
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: listen to to you know, rock and different ships like that.

727
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 1: From the High Times they start listening to hip hop

728
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: and now you see a shift in a combination of

729
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: hip hop kids and alternative kids coming to shows and

730
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: ships like that. You know it. It was like a

731
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: crazy bridge that it created and it still exists today.

732
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: You mentioned red Man and circling back to when you

733
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: said that E. P m d. Was putting people on

734
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: the all was that the reason why I read chose

735
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: the sample y'all could be time for some action was

736
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: the album was finished and it was at Columbia Records,

737
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: and it was circulating for six months before it came out.

738
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: We was like, why the Fox taking six months to

739
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: come out? You know what I mean? They were trying

740
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: to set it up. You know, magazines was three months

741
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: out back then. On all that ship. So they were

742
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: setting it all up, but we didn't get it. So

743
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: at that time, Motherfucker's was hearing it was like an

744
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: underground mixtape. But the Columbia Artists had it. It was

745
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: like promo only and you walk into the office and

746
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: you grab it off the desk, you know what I mean, Like,

747
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: what's this new Let me get that look at the

748
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: front desk, like you know you're gonna be your A

749
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: and R or whatever. It's on their desk. We check

750
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: out this new ship and then you end up grabbing

751
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: it was a red tape. It was a red tape. Um,

752
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: So let me ask searching through the internet, you know,

753
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: searching everything about you after I watched the documentary, I

754
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: don't want to get into the documentary after this, but

755
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: I see Onyx, Yeah, I see onyx uh pop up

756
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: and they go, well, if you want to do a versus,

757
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: who would you want to do a versus against? And

758
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: I only said, well, the only people we could do

759
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: it against. It's like per sale. And at first I

760
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: was like nah, but then I thought I was like maybe,

761
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: and now I'm like nah, I'm still like maybe. How

762
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: did you guys about versus? And would you do versus

763
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: against Onyx. We are doing it. Yeah, we are doing it.

764
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: You said something today. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a real okay.

765
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, the way it went down, you know because

766
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: as rappers, we could ask this question since versus started, right,

767
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: you get asked, right, who would you go against? Or

768
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: who do you think would be a good one? Right?

769
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: I get that, you get that. Anyone in the business

770
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: pretty much guessed that, right, And so whenever they asked me,

771
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, it's either Woo Tang or a Cypress,

772
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: I mean, or ice Cube. It's the big you know,

773
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: it's a that would be fucking awesome, right. Um, But

774
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, Freedro said something on lad TV about it

775
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: before you know, I ever said my first shit about

776
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: any of the verses because I you know, I never

777
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: saw us going against anybody, but I thought those two

778
00:43:50,600 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: would you know, either your son who tame word. But listen,

779
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that I am not worried about nobody.

780
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: We match up on anybody, anybody who will match up

781
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: no doubt. We have that kind of confidence. We chop heads.

782
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We don't go for the tie.

783
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Or the l but um,

784
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: you know like that, I guess it caught you know

785
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: the era of trailer. You know that he said that

786
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: that would be a good matchup, and I think the

787
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: mindset is this, right, So with Cyprus, do you know

788
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: that we have a hip hop base, but we all

789
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: also have an alternative energy, So it's the energy. So

790
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: when they it comes together, there's a lot of mosh pitch,

791
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: stage diving and all that ship right, that happens crowdsurfing,

792
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: and they have the same type of energy. Right, So

793
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: I thought about guys, I thought about I've been on tour,

794
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: Well they got that or they Yeah, they definitely bring

795
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: the energy as as we do. And I think that's

796
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: that's the mentality for the matchup, you know what I mean.

797
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: But like I said, we don't come to be second.

798
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, it's a win win for

799
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: the people because they're gonna get a great show because

800
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: I know they put on a great one, right, you

801
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Yeah, where were this? Where is

802
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: this taking place? At the Forum home? Well, you know,

803
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't I don't make the call, just go It

804
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: could have been in Madison Square Garden. I'd show up

805
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: the same way. No, but they live in they live

806
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: in When is this so the data has already said

807
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: fourteen Okay, I'm all for drinking. At that time, I'm

808
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: going on think. I think I might have to cover

809
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: and just just see that. It's it's a crazy format

810
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: to go have to go up against your homies and

811
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: ship like that, you know, because those are our homies.

812
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: We did plenty of shows with them, plenty of festivals.

813
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: It's not there's there's there's never now they're no no,

814
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: So I love I mean, you know, um ship um

815
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: sticky Fredo and I did uh a feature on asap

816
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: Fergus joint get the funk out of my face or whatever,

817
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I mean we're mad cool. You know,

818
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: this is for the sake of like, let's give the

819
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: fans a show before the record, right wait, before the

820
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: before the record to win. We already know stunned. I

821
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: did you say it though Cyprus for the way, But

822
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: the fans are gonna win more than more than anyone,

823
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: because I mean I know they're gonna bring it and

824
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: we are definitely gonna bring it now, sen you a

825
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: flavor flavor had the best Man Battle hype Man Battle

826
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: where was this app how Like? I was just like holy,

827
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: it was in Australia and uh summer and like Sydney

828
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: or something, and Flay was on a good one and

829
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: so was I and we just we just took over

830
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: this nightclub and then on the mic and did our thing,

831
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: and and then Flavor. The funny thing about it, he

832
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: tried to emulate the same thing that we did the

833
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: night before the next night on stage of public handed me,

834
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 1: invited me up there, and I'm like, going, your brom

835
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, I was sucked up last night what I did. Yeah,

836
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: but it was a good time and it was a

837
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: legendary night. And that's when I got to know Flavor.

838
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: I already knew him, but that now I really really

839
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: got to know him, because you know, when people are

840
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: drunk and behind, you know, ship happens and ship like

841
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: that and you see people's real true heart. And that's Flavor,

842
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Yeah, he has intention, I feel is

843
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: always right, you know what I mean. He's a down

844
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: ass homeboy. But it was a fun ass night. And

845
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: weren't you there for that? I was right there, he

846
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: right through with me. He wasn't doing right there, man, Yeah,

847
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: there was no time. It was just like you know,

848
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: trading off raps and this and that, and then I

849
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: don't know, turning into something, turned into some other ship

850
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: and he came back to rapping and it was fun.

851
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: He was doing the Flavor dance, he was doing that,

852
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: and then he was doing your dance. I mean, it

853
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: was it was everything, the two legendary and I always

854
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: looked up to Flavors as part of like and I

855
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: feel like a small part of me it comes from him,

856
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, especially my early set dog when it was

857
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: I was more of a hype man dude than than

858
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: the actual rhymer, you know what I mean. And I

859
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: used to get a lot of that style from him,

860
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: you know. Then put my own you know, Salthgate California

861
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: on it and combined the styles type of ship. We

862
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: had a steady diet of Public Enemy. We love that,

863
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: you know that they were one of our big influences,

864
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: for sure. You guys feel that, um, you're part of

865
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: influencing that. That l a underground that kind of came

866
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: afterwards with solo assassins and bringing hooligans and and and

867
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: and even how sapinion all the affiliates, you know, Funk dubious, cycle, Realm,

868
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: and then you know, I feel like King T and

869
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: Alcoholics and Liquid they came after like really solidified that

870
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: that l A underground. Do you do you feel do

871
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: you take onto that you inspired that? I believe we

872
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: did because you know, again, beforehand, you know, groups weren't

873
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: getting signed unless they sounded like you know, n w

874
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: A or Compton's Most Wanted or something like that. And

875
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: we sort of changed the dynamic like there's there's something

876
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: else here. And you know, Muggs was a big part

877
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: of that because the style of production he was giving

878
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: ourselves and how sa pain and funk, dubious and and

879
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: you know the inspiration that had on other producers in

880
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: l A like Okay, we don't have to just do this,

881
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: we can do hip hop ship style ship. And I

882
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: think that's where you see the influx, so that style

883
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: production happening in Los Angeles where now there's a balance

884
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: of the gangster rap ship and like hip hop. You know,

885
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: let's now let's talk about the gang culture for a second. Right.

886
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: We all know that that's a heavy part of Los Angeles, right,

887
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: but at the time all we heard was cripts and bloods, Right,

888
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: that's all we heard. We didn't hear about nothing else,

889
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: but now hear you guys come from East Los Angeles.

890
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: It's a whole another side. And then how how was that, like,

891
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, going into that, because I think you got shocked, like, well, yeah,

892
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: the colors or something. No, I banged with bloods and yeah, yeah,

893
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: but you know, we grew up around you know, most

894
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: of uh a lot of homies that that gang bang

895
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: and you know, Latino gangs and stuff like that. I

896
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: just happened to go a different route, and so you know,

897
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: I got caught in the middle of that ship. You know,

898
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: we were in we were in a neighborhood that was

899
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: blood and divided by crip, you know what I mean.

900
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: And anyone that got caught around that area, it could

901
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: pop off at any minute, you know what I'm saying.

902
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: And I got caught with my homies in that in

903
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: that little zone right there, and we got caught off Garden.

904
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: That's when I got popped. But I was I was banging,

905
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: and uh, you know it's you know that when you're banging,

906
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: this is a possibility. So that possibility happened. But you know,

907
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: we did grow up, you know, on the East Side

908
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: it's like considered what southeast or lower East something like

909
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: lower East Side like Southgate, right Linwood, Bells, Bell Gardens

910
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: were must grew up at the East l a Down

911
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: there is the clotin thing, you know what I mean.

912
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: It's Mexican gangs, it's you know, Salvadorian gangs. It's every

913
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: Latino culture gang that there is. They got a gang

914
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: for it, you know what I mean. And it's different

915
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: than bloods and crips, you know what I mean. You

916
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: have different colds everything, and you have to you have

917
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: to know that when you go into those into those areas,

918
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because growing up as a

919
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: black Latino, you know what I mean, they didn't know

920
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: what you were. So the first thing they thought was like,

921
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: go kick his ass, you know what I mean. And

922
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: that's that's what we can You're you're from like a

923
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: crip hold or something. Yeah, you know, until they find

924
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: out that I couldn't talk English and ships figured out

925
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: that you're part of them, and you know, but that's

926
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: the that's what we all went through growing up in

927
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: l A. Is. You never know, no, I'm full Cuban,

928
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: continue yeah ye Puerto Rican. Yeah. But and then you

929
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: had to, you know, at some point along the way,

930
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: you have to put your foot in the dirt and say,

931
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get down with a click because I'm tired

932
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: of being just getting my asswood by everybody that thinks,

933
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, I don't roll with nobody. So you know,

934
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: in fifth grade, I got done with my first click

935
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: and as soon as I did that, like, have the

936
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: bullshit stop, because you gotta roll with somebody. Man, you

937
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: gotta roll with somebody. And that was where. But in

938
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: a lot of places where you know, ship pops off, yeah,

939
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: you gotta click up. And if you don't, you might

940
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: just get recruited, even if you don't want to. If

941
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: you who every day on the way home, they see

942
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: you until you join their game. If they meet you

943
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: and they want you, they're gonna put that you want.

944
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: You want to walk down this block and not get

945
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: fucked with. You're gonna get in this ship over here,

946
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: and and and and rep for the block, you know

947
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. It doesn't happen with everybody, but like

948
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: what if they see something and you, yeah, they're gonna

949
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: come recruit and some choose it, some choose it. I don't.

950
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: They ain't got to be there, but they're there because

951
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: they crave that lifestyle. Because, like you know, it's crazy

952
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: for me coming from the East Coast. And I'm sure

953
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: mugs you notice, like um and queens, we have a

954
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: melting pot. So like the Puerto Ricans, the black people,

955
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 1: the Haitians, the Jamaicans, we all live on the same block.

956
00:53:52,719 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: It wasn't like till but it wasn't util I kind

957
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: of went to Los Angeles where I realized, like it's

958
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: almost segregated like jail, Like you know what I'm saying,

959
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: Like the do Mexicans is overhead, the Cubans is overhead,

960
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: the Blacks is over here, and I had never seen

961
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: that July I traveled. How is that? It's it's kind

962
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: of crazy that it's it's separated like that. And Callie's

963
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: so big, it's so fucking spread out that you could

964
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: do that where you know, in in places not as

965
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: big of a state, you're sort of mashed together like

966
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: the melting pot, as they say, right, so you know

967
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: you have that chance to to click up and and

968
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: be unto yourself if that's what you're choosing, a lot

969
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's doing ship. I remember when we were like

970
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: this ship was a hobby to us and we weren't

971
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: even seriously doing demos yet. We'd go to different parties

972
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: and one of them that remember, we go to the

973
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: Cuban parties in Southgate at this place called the Ogi

974
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: Nettle right everything, Yeah, family moved them and it was

975
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: crazy because everybody was clicked up, clicked up there. We

976
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: have a lifelong friend and one of our boys that

977
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: rides with the Cypress Hillbillies with Send Dog the bike

978
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: club and stuff. He grew up with us and him

979
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 1: and his wife used to go to the spot until

980
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: we get invited through them sometimes to go to these

981
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: fucking to go to the organettal and the minute we'd

982
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: show up, man, they'd be looking at us like what

983
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: the funk are y'all doing here? Like that's how clicked up?

984
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: We weren't that click We didn't look the way they did.

985
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: We weren't. We didn't look Cuban and the way they

986
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: did because they were trying to get maintain that tradition.

987
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: That's what that's what those types of social closes before

988
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: I looked like something ounce like you know yeah yeah yeah,

989
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: like thugs and you know, everybody's all nice and ship,

990
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: and so yeah, you know, and so it's it's very

991
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: much like that. You can go to another neighborhood party

992
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: and it might be all Mexicans. The minute, you know,

993
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: sind Dog shows until he starts talking, they might be

994
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: giving him a crazy look, but then when they hear

995
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: him talk, it's all ship. What's up? Poems? You know

996
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: that accepted? You know what I'm saying, it's it's crazy

997
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: like that. We know the influences that that came and

998
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: must bringing a lot of influence from and why but

999
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: any local l A influences like was Frost or any

1000
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: other guys were doing it locally influencing you guys. I mean,

1001
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: they didn't influence me, but I was a fan of

1002
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: there's like the the l A Dream Team and ship

1003
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: like that, but it was a rock Berry or rock Ja, yeah,

1004
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: you know. And there was other guys too, like Egyptian Lover.

1005
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: They did. All the guys that were on the radio,

1006
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: and that first wave of of eighties hip hop, you know,

1007
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: left their mark for the next generation to cling onto

1008
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: and and come up. And that's where that's where I

1009
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: really started paying attention to is during that era. And

1010
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: there was also other cats to involved, like King T

1011
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: was actually before us, you know what I mean, he

1012
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: was before us. Said he always had his polished down

1013
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: style with it, you know, with a certain sample whatever,

1014
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: and it signed in the pocket all the time. And

1015
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: that was King T. You know when he brought a record,

1016
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: it was gonna be Everything's gonna be nice. Was the

1017
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: first l A rapper I heard that when I was like,

1018
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: oh Ship, Yeah, before that, it was like everybody was

1019
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: trying to make plane of rock records, you know what

1020
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean. This album cover of him falling down the

1021
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: alley with the sawtof shotgun, remember right, that ship was

1022
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: ill right for sure. He was definitely like an influence

1023
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: in w A two, you know what I mean, They're like,

1024
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: how could they not be slapping it? Cub Yeah, Cube

1025
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: was you know, beast like you know, they all work,

1026
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, They all had something different

1027
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: and that always motivated us throughout that whole time. We

1028
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: were just around the scene in the circuit kind of

1029
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: like you know, with my brother hanging being sign a

1030
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: Delicious vinyl and you know we saw Tom Loke spring

1031
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: up and jump off and do his thing, and then

1032
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: Young MC and all that ship. So we were right

1033
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: there in the environment. We were always you know, huddled

1034
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: around it. So it was only you know, in my opinion,

1035
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: only a matter of time before we got a chance

1036
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: to do our thing. I mean, because we were we

1037
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: were always right there, so it just it just from there.

1038
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: Iced Tea wasn't influenced to next question. Well, next question

1039
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: was was iced Tea said, you sound like crazy Mexicans

1040
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: on dope. He said something Angel does something Angel. I

1041
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: actually it's dope. The guys that sound like Mexican dudes

1042
00:58:52,240 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: on angels, but the angel doesn't. Oh yeah, described that

1043
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: we encountered many motherfuckers on it because oh yeah, you

1044
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: would see motherfucker's like freak the funk out on it.

1045
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: Um and in the membrane. I ain't gonna I would

1046
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: have thought you was too. I'm not gonna lie. We

1047
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: were just crazy naturally, you know what I mean. I

1048
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: say that, Um, I just think because of the way

1049
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: we sounded, we didn't sound like anything in l A.

1050
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: Even like the dynamic of our voices. My ship was

1051
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: crazy high pitched and a different style. It wasn't necessarily

1052
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: an l A based style, and my sound was was different. Um.

1053
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: And with send doing the psycho beta voice, which is

1054
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: the who all that on top of it. It was

1055
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: just I think that's where where's he's referencing, just because

1056
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: of the sound. The tones were different. Started like chucking

1057
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: flav you know what I'm saying. It made sense when

1058
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: he described it that way, like I understood what he

1059
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: was hearing. What made him for hearing it for the

1060
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: first time, what it would sound like to him? What

1061
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: angel us? No, just like my tripping. Yeah, that's crazy,

1062
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: that's crazy, because I mean it was big back then.

1063
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: It was it was huge back there. Um so Sin

1064
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: you're in a biker gang. No, man, there's no biker

1065
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: gang at all. There's that's just following. You didn't even

1066
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: describe it like that club. Yeah, you sound like you

1067
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: work for the government. Because I seen it, I was,

1068
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: I was bull like, so I just getting part of

1069
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: that culture. I didn't do it back in the I

1070
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: bought my first bike in like ninety five or something

1071
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: like that, right, and that that was like a cross

1072
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: rocket Honda, And that led me to Harley Davidson's you know,

1073
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: scooters or whatever. And then now I'm sponsored by the

1074
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: Indian Motorcycle Company, right, so, and I just got into it,

1075
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: and uh, one day I had got all my friends

1076
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: into it, and we had like about nine or ten

1077
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: of us. They were all, you don't have bikes, and

1078
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: so I was like, man, why don't we make a

1079
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: little patch. And I've never been about, you know, joining

1080
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: anybody's army. I've always been one of the couple guy

1081
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: to start my own things. So I started my own thing.

1082
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah for silbilies, Yeah yeah, right, yeah yeah. But Young

1083
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: Rock across country we have. Man, we've done a long

1084
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: distance rides and ship like that, and it's you know,

1085
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: it's depending on what time of year you go on.

1086
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: Is you know what kind of whooping you're gonna take

1087
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: on that bike? So what what's the longest distance you're

1088
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: wing me personally to Arizona from California from where I

1089
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: lived in Cali all the way to Arizona. Who's counting?

1090
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: You know? Okay, I'm just along to it. I'm on

1091
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: the right until we get there, you know, and then

1092
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: well well well when we get there, then you know,

1093
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: then we meet up with other bike clubs and then

1094
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: go to the rally that they invited us to and

1095
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: ship like that. Now this is what navigation or you

1096
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: did this without navigation. Now, my road captain will have

1097
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: the navigation. Right, the captain words, I don't know what

1098
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: ye positioning man, you know, and then and then we

1099
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: rolled out. That's what it is. The road captain is

1100
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: the guy who's who's orchestrating their movements as they're rolling

1101
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: the parade going through. No GPS, no GPS. Well he

1102
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: might have GPS, GPS now, but he's coordinating everybody's I

1103
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable if he has his GPS thing going

1104
01:02:54,120 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: basically basically basically following with him, right, one of I

1105
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, he has the coordinates,

1106
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we roll out and

1107
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: and uh and whatever happens happens, you know. But it's

1108
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: it's his responsibility to make sure that we get to

1109
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: the spot we're supposed to get to. So that's it.

1110
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: And if he sucks up, they leave him with the

1111
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,959
Speaker 1: scooter and he's got to get back by himself. Yeah,

1112
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: and there, right, if you fuck it up, you leave

1113
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: him with the scooter, and however you keep getting back

1114
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: if you say something. Now, I'm just gonna say. The

1115
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: funnest thing about it is actually when you complete the journey,

1116
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean because it's the physical thing.

1117
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 1: You're on the you're on the machine. It's a physical thing.

1118
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: And when you do it and come back and there's

1119
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: there's a you kind of feel like you went through

1120
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: a kind of threshold kind of thing and completed something,

1121
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's kind of weird feeling

1122
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: like that on Wednesdays women flash you about Wednesdays. We

1123
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: don't know that's a real thing, like you know, like

1124
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: bacon No, I mean, I'm not sure what do you mean?

1125
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: Like girls do it alright? When I can take you

1126
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: to that spot if you like, I know where it's

1127
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: sad that would cause a lot of accidents. Pop, yeah,

1128
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: you want about your right. It's just just he got

1129
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: into it. I don't remember when they both first bought

1130
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: their bikes, like because Mugs bought one and Send bought

1131
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: one and a few guys from our crew, and you know,

1132
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: they got them crotch rockets. I was like, man, y'all

1133
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: are crazy, you know. I I used to ride dirt

1134
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: bikes as a very young kid, and that you know,

1135
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: it just wasn't my thing. I got into low riders,

1136
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: so you know, if it ain't a low low, I

1137
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: don't go go, you know what I'm saying. Holy, So

1138
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: how is it being the only Puerto Rican It's all,

1139
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: It's all of you know, Puerto Ricans and Cubans, they

1140
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: kind of all blend together, you know what I mean.

1141
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know where I was born. I was

1142
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: born in Hollis, Queens. Just make some money. It was

1143
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: always you know, my mom's best friend was Cuban and everything.

1144
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: And you know my dad. Yeah, dad is a super legend. Yeah,

1145
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, so it was it was always loved, you know,

1146
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: so you know I felt right at home. Is that

1147
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: how you found up a music scene and your dad? Yeah? Yeah,

1148
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: I started with him. You know, I was five years

1149
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: old my first gig. You know what, time out? Wait

1150
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: a minute? What then? Did you just say I was

1151
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: five years old? It was It was in the documentary.

1152
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Yeah, so you know my dad put

1153
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: me updates. No, no, I didn't heard it all. You know,

1154
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: Dad just put me up there. You know. I was

1155
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: playing on the pots and pans, you know, before I

1156
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: can even speak. So you know, my dad recognized, you know,

1157
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: the I had a rhythm, So put me up there.

1158
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: And then I was doing gigs with him till he

1159
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: passed away I was fifteen, and then I took over

1160
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: his band, doing the Latin jazz thing, you know, playing

1161
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: Latin jazz festivals and Playboy Jazz festivals, monitorate jazz festival,

1162
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: keeping keeping that music alive, you know, But that I

1163
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: always love hip hop, you know what I mean? And

1164
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, you know the early hip hop always had like,

1165
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, percussion in it. You know the year like

1166
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, Grand Mass Flash and you know all that stuff.

1167
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: So it was, it was there. So I knew that

1168
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: this was something that I wanted to do. And then

1169
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, Shi just came for me, you know what

1170
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean. That's that's beautiful. What made you want to

1171
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: add um? Yeah to to. I saw him one day

1172
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: playing with the Beastie Boys, right, and I was like, man,

1173
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: he'd be he sounds really cool playing with us. So

1174
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: I invited him to a show he was doing at

1175
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: a at El Camino College because my little sister went there,

1176
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: and the Latino Studies people hit me up like okay, cool,

1177
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: we'll do that show for you guys. And then but

1178
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 1: I also invited him and you told me you played

1179
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: on one song. I remember him being there the whole show, right,

1180
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: But that's where I first saw him with the Beasts,

1181
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: and uh and I was like, I gotta I love

1182
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: to hear how he would sound with us, with our sound,

1183
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: with Muggs's production and be Real's vocals and and what

1184
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: I was doing with my secondary vocal. I just had

1185
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: a feeling that they would work, you know, and it

1186
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,479
Speaker 1: did something to this day sounds right was it real estate?

1187
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: H No, it was Latin lingo. I mean already had

1188
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: like some you know what I mean. So that's why

1189
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: I gravitated to it, because I'm like, damn, you know,

1190
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: that's for cushion in this. I can do this. I

1191
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: already knew because best boys they were, you know, tinkering

1192
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: around a little bit with you know, Latin sounds, but

1193
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: they weren't Latino, you know. But with Cypress, it was

1194
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: a whole different thing. He was writing in Spanish, so

1195
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: I felt at home. When they came to you, to say,

1196
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: leave the Beasts and coming to us, it was a

1197
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: no brain or you had to think about it. Uh No,

1198
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: it was story. Story was like approached like that, like right, yeah, yeah,

1199
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: I think so. But at least I folutely poached him.

1200
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: But at least what happened was you know what I mean.

1201
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: For about two and a half three years, I was

1202
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: flip flopping. I was doing world tours with BCS and

1203
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: then I go on with Cypress. It was going back

1204
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: and forth up until Woodstock. What Stock ninety four, just

1205
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: getting a lot of pussy to just make some noise.

1206
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: Really in my notes that's next. So you know. Originally,

1207
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: originally Sypence was going to play on the Sunday and

1208
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: that was my day off. I was doing all the

1209
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: pollutes at ninety four with bect Boys, and somehow it

1210
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 1: got changed to Saturday. So I was like back and forth, Man,

1211
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: should I go away? And what am I gonna do?

1212
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: And everything like that. My mom last minute, she says, oh,

1213
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: you better go to Woodstock. That's that's that's a big thing.

1214
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing right there. So I left the

1215
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: note for Mike d I put it under this door

1216
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: like about three o'clock in the morning and said, I'm

1217
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: going to Woodstock. I'll be back for the show. And

1218
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: uh so I I did that. I didn't tell nobody.

1219
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: So then I flew to to to Woodstock. We did

1220
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: the show. I couldn't get out because it started raining

1221
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: and ship. So I was stuck everything and I had

1222
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: to I had to fly here to Miami after that,

1223
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: and uh, to a manager was all piste off, but well,

1224
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: we need to talk to you. You shouldn't have left us.

1225
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 1: It was very bad, all this kind of ship. He

1226
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: was the tour manager way back went for Ozzy Osborne,

1227
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: this guy right, all right, So the guys that go

1228
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: ahead and talk to me. You know everything I did

1229
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: I figured about ship. If I get fired from this gig,

1230
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 1: I got another one, you know. So they let me.

1231
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: They let me slide. You know, they said wood Stock

1232
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: is you know, that was a big thing. But you know,

1233
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: let us know said shift I did. I left to

1234
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: know that, you know, but yeah, that was that was

1235
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: a wild thing. And then that was, you know, really

1236
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: the beginning of me really being part of the crew.

1237
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: Where was the moment, because I mean, to us, I mean,

1238
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: it's hardcore hip hop, but the craziest ship about making

1239
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: someone making someone making the hardest care hardcore hip hop.

1240
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: It crosses over like I could never see DMX ever

1241
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: be in commercially. But he's like, where was the moment

1242
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: that y'all starting to realize that that is happening? To y'all.

1243
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: You know it's I don't know, but it's that energy.

1244
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: When you got that energy, that rock and roll energy,

1245
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that she translates across them

1246
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: festivals and you get groups like Public Enemy, Cypress, Hill Run, DMC,

1247
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, never cross over because the energy,

1248
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 1: it's like that's that ship, that's how like, that's that

1249
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: energy they like. But what was the moment that that

1250
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: y'all was like, Wow, this is really it? The festivals

1251
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: like those people, I think I think it was it

1252
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 1: was the Woodstock festivals. You know, it was five thousands,

1253
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: five hundred thousands, it was five hundred thousand that it

1254
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: was about four eighty four close to five. I don't

1255
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: even be real without being I respect that, but hold on,

1256
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: do you get the call? And it now has to

1257
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: hip hop? Been on with Stock prior to this? No no, no,

1258
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: not in the first Okay yeah, well Salting Pep was

1259
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: on it too. They was on different stage, different stage. Yeah,

1260
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: but it was it was around that time that you know,

1261
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: like that hit because of the odds won't be a back. Well,

1262
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: it was crazy as it like it hit me in

1263
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: that moment at it started because when we got invited

1264
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 1: to that and then seeing like the ocean of fucking

1265
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: people bouncing to our ship and when how I how

1266
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: I could just kill a man? Comes on they go

1267
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: and it's and it's crazy, you know what I mean,

1268
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: And that that sort of when it hit like because

1269
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, previous to that, we had played

1270
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: sizeable festivals and stuff like that, but nothing that that big.

1271
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: And to see yeah, was so big we had you

1272
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 1: couldn't drive into the show. We had to get a

1273
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: hotel this other state, right, getting a helicopter and flying

1274
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: to the show. And yeah, because because it was like

1275
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: traffic jam, well no, the roadways turned into a fucking

1276
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: parking lot, like for real. People just got out of

1277
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: their car, fucking walked it and left their ship where

1278
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: they left it. It was like in the sixties, yeah,

1279
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, so yeah, yeah, and some some went in

1280
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: on boat. You know, you had to go where the

1281
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: fucking the boat was and voted in or you helicoptered in.

1282
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: That was only two ways in for artists and that

1283
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: was wild man, just to see all them people that's

1284
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: over there, like it was, it was nuts. Yeah, we

1285
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: came in on a helicopter and then they say, you

1286
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: gotta go straight to the stage or how does it happen?

1287
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: And we were there for what forty minutes before we

1288
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: went on, maybe in a little bit longer hour and

1289
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, yeah it was. When we got off stage,

1290
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: there was everything. They kicked us right the funk out there,

1291
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: like we gotta make room for the next band flying in.

1292
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: So it's not like, yeah, we killed it. I lost

1293
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: my shoes in socks on that show. I didn't bet

1294
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: on nothing but us to win, and I lost my

1295
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: shoes in socks. How do you lose your shoes and

1296
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: s okay? So me and send or send a nine

1297
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: for proper Grammar's sake. We you know, from the Beastie

1298
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: Boys shows, we were, you know, jumping in the crowd

1299
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: and that became a thing us stage diving and doing

1300
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: that that ship. We did it for a very long time,

1301
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: but it was new to us then, and you know,

1302
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: would Stock seemed like the place to do it. So

1303
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: I go in. I get ravaged, my fucking shirts getting

1304
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,560
Speaker 1: pulled this way that way the crowd. Yeah, I jumped in.

1305
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: We both jumped in the crowd. I had to grab

1306
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: my my collar so that I didn't get choked out

1307
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: by my t shirt getting pulled this way and do

1308
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: the song because like we never stopped doing the song.

1309
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: We always finish, you know what I'm saying. And as

1310
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm as we're doing the song, first shoot comes off,

1311
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: second shoot comes off, suck comes off. They literally got

1312
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: like they pulled it right to funk out and where

1313
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 1: is that right now? And then I was little Bay.

1314
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: It was in my person score and I came back

1315
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: on stage and you know, I was barefooted. I was

1316
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: like a hippie up there, you know what I'm saying,

1317
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: trying to do his hip hop ship. Um. But it

1318
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: happened on the last song because we finished with we

1319
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: Ain't going out like that. That was our finisher for

1320
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 1: a long time. Um, and at that point it was new.

1321
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: But like, you know, so that was the last song.

1322
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 1: I get up on stage. I don't know, I'm asking

1323
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: for my ship back. Ain't no one throwing my ship back.

1324
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: But years later on on on another tour, I shipped

1325
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: I came across one shoe right I'm on because from

1326
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: that same show, No, for like years later, like ten

1327
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: years later, we're on a tour somewhere with I don't

1328
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: know if it's uh, it's probably further than ten years.

1329
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: But it was either with three eleven or Sublime with

1330
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: Rome or slightly stupid. One of those three tours we

1331
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 1: did with those guys, one fan comes up and says, hey, yo,

1332
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: this is the shoe for Woodstock. Would you sign it?

1333
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: This is what I was a little saying that, and

1334
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, it was my left shot, and so

1335
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: I fucking signed it, right, get on. About another year later,

1336
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm on and we're on another tour. I might have

1337
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: been with profits that just right, got the right show.

1338
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: He goes, Yo, man, what's the same what's't the same person?

1339
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: Two different people. I never got the socks though, so

1340
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: we're looking for the socks and holy ship saying now,

1341
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: you guys were also the first rappers with a Hollywood

1342
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: Hawk Walk of Fame sign because Colin is getting his

1343
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: Monday yeah, And I was thinking, like, how how far

1344
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: as hip hop came? And then I'm looking at the

1345
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: documentary on like the first hip hop group they ever

1346
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: gave one too? It's you guys, Yeah, like Robert de Niro,

1347
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe, Cypress Hill. Right, So I'll tell you what

1348
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: you went too fast when you just say Hollywood Boulevard,

1349
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: Cypress Hill, let's make no noise for that. Wrong. But

1350
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 1: right there, how does it feel? It's crazy because you know,

1351
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: we'll get tagged in in pictures of fans going to

1352
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: the Star and like you know, smoking up or leaving

1353
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: some weed right there and taking pictures and all that ship,

1354
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: some stars toys on them through that stay wrong, I

1355
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: see them boy down Trump ship holes. You see what

1356
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: they were doing, a dumb Trump ship at one point

1357
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: any day, they don't VOLI they put weed, They celebrated,

1358
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, like Stoner's you know, and and yeah, we

1359
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: get we get tagged on in a lot, and it's

1360
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: cool because it's something I know ain't none of us

1361
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: ever talked about or expected. That was just because I

1362
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: don't think it's artists we come in expecting to achieve

1363
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: these acts. We're just doing what we're passionate about and

1364
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: trying to win at it, and everything else is an extra.

1365
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: So when they came to us with that ship, I

1366
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, really it's crazy, you know, I

1367
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: mean for years just walking those streets, just you know,

1368
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 1: casually you can see and then all of a sudden

1369
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,600
Speaker 1: to have one that's that's something else. I mean to

1370
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: see that journey from killer Man to probably be like

1371
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: this is just a dope street record, you know. We

1372
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: just want to do it for for hip hop, for

1373
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: the culture too, doing these festivals and then and then

1374
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: the Hollywood start that's gotta be. It was in Yeah,

1375
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: we were all ston everybody smoking to this time to

1376
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: go on. You know what it was you started smoking

1377
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: about it? You know, yeah, I thought about it, but

1378
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,560
Speaker 1: I knew there was kids there and at that and

1379
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: my daughter was there, so I don't want um. But

1380
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, the cool ship was not not the The

1381
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: star in itself was cool, you know what I mean.

1382
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: But the fans that show up to celebrate it with us,

1383
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: that was because you know, some star celebrations not many

1384
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 1: people show up, and you know, it depends on who

1385
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: it is, and you celebrate your star and it's all

1386
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 1: good and then it's sucking over, right. But we had

1387
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: a lot of our fans there that I did not

1388
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: expect show up and celebrate that with us, and that

1389
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: meant everything. That kind of meant more than the star

1390
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: now for nothing. You know, we we buried some weed

1391
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 1: under that star. Mm hmm. Fine. I would never thought

1392
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: that's whoever blessed. Don't go try to you don't because

1393
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: it's not good anymore. Just in spirit there. Well, you

1394
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: know what I want to tell you again, congratulations on that.

1395
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: That's just it's a legacy that you're kids and grandkids

1396
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: continue to see you visit every whenever they want to,

1397
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The monument there great granddaddy,

1398
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: did you know gonna be same, you know, a long

1399
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 1: time from now. And you know now who's Matt Mike Miller.

1400
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: Mike Miller was the photographer that um took the shots

1401
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: for the first album, so he didn't film the whole

1402
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 1: album cover. Yeah, like all those shots in that time.

1403
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: You know when you see us on the album cover

1404
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: where there's where by the fire and you know we're

1405
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: we're all looking a different way, so don't necessarily see

1406
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: our faces and stuff. That was shot at his father's

1407
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: steel milled. It was you know it it's uh, what

1408
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: street is that, Nate right before they d Santa Fe Road?

1409
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: Santa Fe Street or road? It was that one steel

1410
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: looked abandoned right close to that pig farm thing that

1411
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: that you know, that one that's over there around that area. No,

1412
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: no way before that it's like right when you're coming

1413
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: out of Southgate on the backside, if you saw it,

1414
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: but we didn't know it was this father's ship. I

1415
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: mean we've been growing up and seeing that ship forever.

1416
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: And then you know, he he says, I want to

1417
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: take you to this spot. And Muggs was very pivotal

1418
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: in that because he was giving him the direction. Hey,

1419
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: we want it to look like you've had that vision

1420
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: from get like sorry to go. But the art direction

1421
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: thing was there, all right, right, yeah, So we had

1422
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: this idea what we wanted to do. It was a

1423
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: trash cam, you know, I mean a burning trash can,

1424
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: like you're staying warm. It was like it was it

1425
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: was like August July August, it was outside, you know what.

1426
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: We're trying to get the winter field in l A.

1427
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: So we had jacketson, we had the five burned. It

1428
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,839
Speaker 1: was like eighty nine degrees. We was taking the pictures.

1429
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: And the steel mill right there in like South Cake

1430
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: and that and that was Mike Miller's father's steel mills.

1431
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: So it made it easy. And the funny thing is, uh,

1432
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: the guy who was the assistant to Mike Miller was

1433
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: stefan Orio, director of our new of our documentary did

1434
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: a great job. What made y'all want to do the

1435
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 1: documentary because y'all was you had people filming it from

1436
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: the beginning that shut out massive people. I didn't know

1437
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: that they were so time. Yeah, and the camera ship.

1438
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: From the beginning, it's just us buying cameras, you know,

1439
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: when movie camera started coming out, one of the homies

1440
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: and buy a camera, the other homie buy a camera,

1441
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: just shooting ship behind the document It wasn't like live

1442
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 1: on Instagram. So we had our cameras, you know, we

1443
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: had our own ship. When you when you watch the documentary,

1444
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: do you like, what kind of emotions do you watch?

1445
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: Because I'm looking at it, like, man, these guys had

1446
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 1: a fucking heleb a life, But I didn't live at

1447
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: that like now. But this is the thing that when

1448
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm watching it, I was watching My Girl That's night actually,

1449
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: and we're watching and there's so much ship that happens,

1450
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: and then it cuts to MTV News and I'm like you,

1451
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: MTV news hasn't been around for so long. Happen like

1452
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: y'all live like two lifetimes and still mash it happened

1453
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: after that. That's what I'm saying, like, so much has

1454
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: happened for you guys, And one thing that didn't established

1455
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: in the documentary is why you left the group, because

1456
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: that was the MTV thing said leaves the group. But

1457
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever like said why did

1458
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: you leave the group? At that time? Uh, I think

1459
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: I was just a scattered brain, know what I mean,

1460
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: Like my my I couldn't really focus on it on

1461
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: one thing, and I felt like, uh, I was more

1462
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: of a like more of us something that was against

1463
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: the group, that something that could help the group. Lack

1464
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: of a better term, he was like the ODB. I

1465
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: guess yeah kind of you know what I mean. I

1466
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 1: just it was I couldn't get my ship together. I

1467
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: couldn't concentrate it. For the first time in my life,

1468
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure the ship out, were I what I

1469
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 1: wanted to do, you know? And then the road life

1470
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: is rigorous like that, just crazy, especially when you're it's

1471
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: your first time out there. And I'm not gonna make

1472
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: any excuses or whatever, but yeah, I went through culture

1473
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: shock and all that ship that, you know, and I

1474
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: would see these guys just raging on fucking tour and

1475
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm like man, I just don't feel that ship. What

1476
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't know. I wasn't having fun. It

1477
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: was the I don't want to say, a burden, you

1478
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean, But it was like a heavy

1479
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: ship on me. Um too uh to just stay the

1480
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: whole time out there with them, you know what I mean.

1481
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: And I had to battle the I guess demons that

1482
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: were trying to tell me like fun these dudes and

1483
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: split and you know, and the right thing which was

1484
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: telling me stay right here with your crew, know what

1485
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and that and that, and I didn't always

1486
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: come through with that ship and what I mean, so

1487
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: I I've always, uh, I felt shitty about that, you know,

1488
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: until I figured that ship out and became a constant

1489
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: part of the A touring crew. And you started your

1490
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: own crew as well, right, your own Yeah, back in

1491
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: those days. Yes, I started the band that uh that

1492
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: actually helped me stay in music, you know what I mean,

1493
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: because my idea funked up as it was. I was

1494
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: like just I'm just gonna quit, you know what I mean.

1495
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: But these guys um like we we just need someone

1496
01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: to practice with, can you just rap? And I'm like okay,

1497
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: all right whatever and that turned into me staying productive

1498
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: doing music and this and that the whole time. Be real,

1499
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: would not you know? He'd come over to my house

1500
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 1: like once or twice a year and be like, hey, nigga,

1501
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: you ready yet or and I was like, no, I'm

1502
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 1: not ready yet, you know what I mean. So when

1503
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: I became, when I decided, okay, I'm gonna go back

1504
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 1: to the to the crew because thanks to these three

1505
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: cats right here, they kept the band, you know, yeah,

1506
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: and they kept the band going while I took my hiatus,

1507
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, until I figured it out

1508
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: and and uh and and I developed this you know

1509
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: who gets the funk attitude? You know what I mean? Like,

1510
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 1: and that's you know, the same ship that I'm on

1511
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 1: until today, because that's what I was. I was expecting

1512
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: almost um or you know, ice Cube left in w

1513
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 1: way so and and then it was just record said

1514
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: to that and you know, back and forth. So I

1515
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: was expecting that, you know, when when you left the

1516
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 1: group and Din like like you said, like MTV reporting

1517
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: on it, how come you guys never took that round?

1518
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: Because but but then you see the footage of what

1519
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: you said on stage. Had you ever did you ever

1520
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: see that till the documentary what he was saying on stage,

1521
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: you know, he was saying, look, he's not here anymore,

1522
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: but he's still a part of the group. Like it

1523
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: was more supportive words. Yeah, because he's our brother, you

1524
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's the way we look at

1525
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: each other. You know, we're not just bandmates. Were more

1526
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: than that, and that I think that's why it's been

1527
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: able to be what it is, because we understand each other.

1528
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: You know, if one of us is having a bad time,

1529
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 1: we just back up and let it breathe and you

1530
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: know the rest of us continue to tow the line

1531
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: and make it happen. And you know, he got me

1532
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: into this ship, this guy and this guy right here

1533
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,799
Speaker 1: and and you know to give him his flowers and mellow.

1534
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: You know, they got me off the street when I

1535
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: was banging. They were already kind of in the game.

1536
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 1: They could have pushed on without me and figured it out,

1537
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: but you know, they brought me in. And you know,

1538
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: there's there's only a couple of different paths when you're banging,

1539
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: especially in that time when it was crazy heated, and

1540
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: these guys took a chance on me, right, So you

1541
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 1: know when Saint Dog left. We weren't mad at him.

1542
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: We we just tried to understand. We were disappointed, but

1543
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: like we carried the line till till he came back,

1544
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 1: and we all, you know, Muggs would from time to

1545
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: time checking on I would, Bobo would, and in his

1546
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: time he came back and we accepted it, embraced it,

1547
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: and new fuck. You know, we were back at this time.

1548
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: We let him have his time. And I just gotta

1549
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 1: say that there was no like fucked up treatment from

1550
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: these cats. When I went through my own ship. I mean,

1551
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: like it happens like that, like yeah, weakness an arm

1552
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: or something like that, they kick your ass out. It

1553
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: wasn't that with these guys, you know what I mean.

1554
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: They were just like he saved my life, So I

1555
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: could never disrespect this guy, you know, same as Muggs,

1556
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: same as Mellow. You know, I might have had my

1557
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: problems with Mellow in the past, but you know I

1558
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: always got love for him because that basically saved my life.

1559
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 1: So we got to be understanding to one another, you

1560
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, especially when we've built it up

1561
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: like at that point. But was it difficult, you know,

1562
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,799
Speaker 1: going on tours without him and um, you know, especially

1563
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: singing his part. I believe he was singing his parts.

1564
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: We did a few toys where I was doing all

1565
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: his parts. Yeah yeah, I mean they split him between

1566
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: and then the ones that they couldn't do I would

1567
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: do send dogs versus and we just you know, sort

1568
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: of split it up. It was, you know, we still

1569
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 1: brought a show. It's just that you know, we had

1570
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: the missing fucking component and send dogs energy, you know

1571
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: what I mean, and his voice, his tone when you

1572
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: don't have that, it ain't necessarily cyper still, but we

1573
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: gave it to crowds nonetheless and they accepted it. And

1574
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: when he came back, it was just like yeah and

1575
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: and uh so in his time man, and I knew

1576
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: he'd come back. It was it was just he needed

1577
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 1: time to breathe and reset because we were on a

1578
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: crazy pace, like we didn't see home but from maybe

1579
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: two three weeks at a time, and then we were

1580
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 1: back on the fucking road. We didn't see our families,

1581
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: friends and and nothing. You know, it's like seven eight

1582
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: months a year like the first five years. No FaceTime,

1583
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: but there was no social shifts. You had to get

1584
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: out there and get face to face with your fans stores,

1585
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, started radio stations show just

1586
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 1: try to bring people from the hood. And I used

1587
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: to bring them out like, yo, you come with me,

1588
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:41,759
Speaker 1: I can see you. Not if it was like fifteen

1589
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: of them, seven of them will go home. You read

1590
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 1: my mind, because I was about to just say that, right,

1591
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: is that you can? You can. There's something motherfucker's that

1592
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 1: are built for this and some that have to sort

1593
01:30:55,680 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: of learn and gradually get into this, and some are

1594
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: not built for it at all. Because we did the

1595
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 1: same thing. We brought a couple of my homies that

1596
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: I banged with and one of them snapped in for sure,

1597
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 1: he could live the road life. But the thing is

1598
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 1: is he got reckless, you know what I mean. The

1599
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 1: hood started flashing up in different places when he would

1600
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: drink too much, different hoods, and and that's a liability

1601
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: because things could pop off, right. And then there's the

1602
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 1: other homies that we brought on who was a g

1603
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, one of my g s. And he spent

1604
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 1: the tour, he spent a full tour with us, but

1605
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: he didn't want to do another one because because because

1606
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 1: because all he ever knew was the Hood, and he

1607
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: missed so much money in the hood. Yeah, and he

1608
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: or he just missed being around. He missed that ship

1609
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: and he couldn't disconnect from it. Being on the road

1610
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: was cool, but I'd rather be in a comfort zone

1611
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: here because I know this ship and and some get

1612
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: stuck in that mentality, you know what I mean. And

1613
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: Sen wasn't that. It was just that it's we were

1614
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 1: fun and going so heavy. It just gassed him, you

1615
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean. For me, I was like, this

1616
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: is all I got. I'm fucking we're rolling and uh,

1617
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 1: you know, so it never got I never got tired

1618
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 1: of it. You know. Sometimes now I might, but um,

1619
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 1: at that point, I was like, funk, we're on. We

1620
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,759
Speaker 1: gotta keep going. And Mugs was the same way in Bobo,

1621
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: and I believe that Sen was in this way. But

1622
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: it just eventually it gets when you're seeing only two

1623
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: weeks at home and then having to do another eight

1624
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: week tour. Man, that ship bears down on you. Especially

1625
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,600
Speaker 1: there was no face time back then. There was no

1626
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 1: especially was disconnected from the world, going going, going overseas,

1627
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 1: where it's really a culture shot because it's a whole

1628
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: and you know, different languages, different there's different things, you

1629
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Hey, what was what was key? Though?

1630
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: For a second when those next tales came that you

1631
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: could do the Washington that was such. Have you ever

1632
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 1: slowed down on touring or it's been like this from

1633
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 1: the beginning. There was a couple of times with a

1634
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: couple COVID Well yeah, COVID definitely that that's been you know,

1635
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: one of the longest stretches that we didn't touch the road,

1636
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: but that was there was stretch. I was playing paintball,

1637
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, competitive, Yeah, and that was totally fucking addicted

1638
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: to that ship and still don't do it anymore, you

1639
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 1: know on the team. No, not that I mean, I

1640
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 1: could put it back together, but I just you know,

1641
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: what happened was this Yeah, yeah, like I almost won

1642
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: proy million dollar couples. Let me explain to you. Let

1643
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: me explain to you. There's two styles of paint two

1644
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: different styles of paintball culture. There's the ones where regular

1645
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: folks going they play what's called scenario games. They go

1646
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 1: into a field and they try to shoot each other out.

1647
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 1: That's one that's not the one that we were doing.

1648
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: We were doing the one called speedball, where let's just

1649
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 1: say this is the field. It's cutting half the team,

1650
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: and it's like play like a sport, like you got

1651
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: your you got obstacles over here, obstacles over there. It's

1652
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: a mirror. Seven guys, seven guys. You're trying to get there,

1653
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: and you're shooting guns, you know, paintball guns at each other,

1654
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 1: trying to like communicate and strategized like chess with guns,

1655
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, how to get these dudes out. I was

1656
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 1: I needed that because that was my my time off

1657
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: right there, Like you know, SANDC took his time. When

1658
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 1: I took my time, we all had to take a

1659
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 1: pause because you know, it's a little bit different, right.

1660
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,919
Speaker 1: So I took that three years, and I didn't realize

1661
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 1: I was taking that three years. I was just having

1662
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 1: fun doing that ship because competitive paintball takes you touring

1663
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 1: two different if you win, but there's very expensive to play.

1664
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: But if you win win, yes, sponsorships, yeah, like you

1665
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 1: get real sponsorships. We did. We did decent, We were

1666
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: we were pretty good team. But like what happened was

1667
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,799
Speaker 1: this on my last tournament. Um, on my last tournament

1668
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 1: in San Diego that I played that we played as

1669
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 1: a team. Um, you know this this dude comes up

1670
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 1: and we did horribly bad and that that tournament, like

1671
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: we weren't communicating, We're just playing like ship and we

1672
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 1: got we got cheated. All of this ship was happening.

1673
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: It was just a bad day. And this fan comes up, right,

1674
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: it goes, Yo, be real, man, it's good to see

1675
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: you out here with the people like this man, you know,

1676
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: like fucking down the earth ship and playing paintball ambassadorship. Yeah, man,

1677
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 1: I can ask you something like yeah and thanks. He goes,

1678
01:35:58,240 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: when are you going to make a new album? And

1679
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 1: it back on tour and I was for you, oh right,

1680
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:14,600
Speaker 1: But this is because he snapped me. Because like after that,

1681
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, I put out three mixed tapes, um, the

1682
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: gun Slinger series. UM. Then we eventually work on Rise

1683
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: Up and we get back on tour, we start touring

1684
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: heavy again. But it was those three years and it

1685
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 1: was that dude in that tournament who gave me the

1686
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: reality check like I should be working, you know, like

1687
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 1: enough of shout out to you, bro, because like you

1688
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: snapped me back in and I know, motherfucker's like, what

1689
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: the fund is wrong with him? We got you know

1690
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And thank you for understanding that we

1691
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 1: never even know he's he's playing Papa. You know that's

1692
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: having a different times times. I'm thinking this is the

1693
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: same time, like yeah, because you who we want. We

1694
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: all got ship to do, like we all got fucking

1695
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 1: about twenty things to do. So whenever welcome miss right. No,

1696
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: he was a little home. He was look on this

1697
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: m on. Not to interrupt, but on the footage of Woodstock.

1698
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: I believe that's his footage, right, alchemist was there was

1699
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: it's my footage. He shot it on my camp on

1700
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 1: your camera. Yeah, has been there on that long shout alchemists.

1701
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: Alchemist want anybody to go to break Let's take it

1702
01:37:36,120 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: take back freak. So we're gonna do you want to

1703
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: play the game so quick time with slime. It's gonna

1704
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: give you two names, two groups. You gotta pick one

1705
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 1: or the other. If you pick both or neither, which

1706
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 1: is the politically correct answer. We're drinking. Everybody's drinking, though,

1707
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: we're drinking with you. We all drinking. We're all taking

1708
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: a shot. So you pick one what he drinks, you

1709
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 1: pick both or neither of them. We're all drinking. And

1710
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 1: then sny you drinking sary right, Yeah, no, he's on

1711
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: a cleanse right now, let's go. I want to ask

1712
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 1: you out to a question, and he's gonna ask y'all

1713
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: to a question and the same he said it to me. Yes,

1714
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 1: all right, so cool? You ready? I think so quick?

1715
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: Time of sloping up to my people from Cherry Colorado,

1716
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: my fault, Jami Kid Frost or metal man Ace melomonnaise melomonnaise?

1717
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: All right, all right, y'all too. How's the painter funk?

1718
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 1: Dubious ice cube or scarface ice cube? Ice cube? All right?

1719
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't have to answer that one, dre

1720
01:39:47,040 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: or puff. I want to see if you can answer

1721
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 1: like how they answer DJ's over here, were good we

1722
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: exhibit or grass cast exhibit already trip car quest or

1723
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 1: sold a mischief quest? Jee man, Now this is gonna.

1724
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure we can tell you'all to are a lot together.

1725
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: The bust the rhymes or eminem bust the rhymes? Okay,

1726
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 1: snoop a game soup? We need better questions. Take a shot,

1727
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 1: all right? To kill a dude? Okay, you got the

1728
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 1: right there right there? This is to kill all right?

1729
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 1: We ready, lets you take a shot. You gotta take

1730
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 1: a shot. Shot no take it again though we didn't

1731
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: see you, right, Okay, this one, I'm pretty sure we're

1732
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna go with this one, but I I gotta ask

1733
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 1: anyway Tupac or Nipsey Hustle, Okay, Big Pun or Biggie

1734
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 1: Biggie Baggy jeez man, we're not getting no at all.

1735
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 1: DJ Quick or battle Cat DJ quick us Quick all right,

1736
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 1: out cast a U G K wait. I was gonna

1737
01:41:56,520 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 1: say out casts were drinking, drink when they disagree. I

1738
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 1: got already to stalk Hollywood Square. Okay, ye that it's

1739
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 1: on me right, U huh Oh, it's a good one.

1740
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 1: N w a o Wu tang clan in w aely together.

1741
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 1: This is a weird one. Who put this one together?

1742
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: All right? Fat Joe or e forty damn? I mean

1743
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 1: this is the one make a drink Fat Joe, Pat Joe? Yeah,

1744
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 1: oh my god, all right, you don't want to drink

1745
01:42:53,800 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 1: podcast podcast video You gotta drink too, right? Okay, damn

1746
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: is going anywhere he did that you wanted to drink?

1747
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: Okay when you man, Oh, this is a good one.

1748
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: Just let me see, let me see, let me see,

1749
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: let me see. We're going right. Oh all right, okay, yeah,

1750
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 1: American me or blood in or blood out American American me.

1751
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 1: Don't look at me, little puppet. I'll scare of that movie,

1752
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 1: both of them, the other one legit, the legit story.

1753
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 1: American me to Helm, I'm blood and blood. That's when

1754
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 1: the white guy they're boating based in the same time.

1755
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 1: That's ill. That's ill. Okay, the chronic or all eyes

1756
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: on me, the chronic on it, cush or sour. You

1757
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: gotta start answering at the same time. I believe you

1758
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: got you got the beat nuts or souls of Mischief

1759
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:29,679
Speaker 1: nuts that was in brou Yeah, I mean, I don't

1760
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 1: want to use alchemists that they didn't go together. No,

1761
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 1: Beatus is a group more than production. I'm not think

1762
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 1: of beating us a thing above. No beat Nuts are alchemists.

1763
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 1: That was the real one. Oh that was the real

1764
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 1: That was a real one. Too late. The question was yeah, yeah, yeah,

1765
01:44:54,320 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 1: what No bro relax um MLP mob deep h m,

1766
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 1: well pee mom d we're drinking salute the boat. What's

1767
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:17,719
Speaker 1: I got there? I'll wait for sun get smaller, smaller

1768
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: in your life, just because that's Beard to killer goes

1769
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 1: right together. Okay, alright, already Boys in the Hood, Society,

1770
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood rock Camera, Carross One, Oh yeah,

1771
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: Carross one. Okay, you're ready. Coulgi wrap, a big al

1772
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: Coulgi rap cougie wrap like this one. Man is stupid

1773
01:45:55,680 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 1: New Yorker Miami soundn't like that one ep m D

1774
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 1: or Gangstar EPMD Bucket hats baby, but I love them both. Yes,

1775
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: all right, brand newbian a trip called quest. Y'all double

1776
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 1: on tribe. Okay, we're drinking, let's go. I think it

1777
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 1: makes a night of that Mama wheezy baby. This one,

1778
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's gonna pick. And I need

1779
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 1: to know why you do pick this your own TV

1780
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 1: raps or video music box? You m TV raps um

1781
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: video music box? Okay, I need the explanation for both

1782
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 1: of y'all. You're unto raps because, um, they held it

1783
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 1: down through those earlier those years of hip hop when

1784
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 1: we really needed that show and I felt that, um,

1785
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 1: that whole, that whole thing that they did, and they

1786
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 1: spotlighted hip hop and then some of the greatest hip

1787
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 1: hoppers of all time. We're on that show Video music

1788
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:19,560
Speaker 1: Box because they showed them TV the way, not with

1789
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 1: you and you next after that. M hmm, I'm gonna

1790
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: change it up though, Um big Boy or the Baker Boys,

1791
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 1: Big Boy, Big Boy Primo or Pete Rock, Hey Mony

1792
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:49,480
Speaker 1: love or Yo Yo love is the last one all

1793
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 1: for ye together. Loyalty or respect And let's let's go

1794
01:47:54,560 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 1: one more one. Loyalty or respect, respect, loyalty break it down.

1795
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 1: If you can take a shot to work. I mean

1796
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: we gotta take the shot either. We all explain it about. Yes,

1797
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 1: he want some more, Mama wheezy. Loyalty, well, you know,

1798
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: loyalty because one person can't do it all by themselves.

1799
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 1: You need a team and you gotta be loyal to

1800
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: each other. And with loyalty comes to respect. Without it,

1801
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 1: there is no respect. And I agree with the brothers

1802
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 1: thoughts on what he said. But for me, you know,

1803
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 1: respect is everything. I don't care if you don't even

1804
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,680
Speaker 1: like me, but when you when I come around, you

1805
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 1: show that respect. I mean yeah, I can see that. Uh.

1806
01:48:56,760 --> 01:49:02,560
Speaker 1: There's different levels of respect. Uh. But loyalty, Uh, you know,

1807
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 1: if you're your's true, you stay loyal, you know, no

1808
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: matter what h oh man. So if he motherfucker's um

1809
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 1: loyal to you, he might not even agree with you,

1810
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 1: but he ain't gonna want to kill you because he's

1811
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 1: loyal to you, you know what I mean. But I

1812
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 1: could have respect for you, and I don't like what

1813
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 1: you're thinking all that ship and I'm gonna kill you,

1814
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:33,839
Speaker 1: motherfucker because I am loyal to you. That was profile.

1815
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 1: Now what do you do? What do you? What do you? Guys?

1816
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:47,719
Speaker 1: Love more making the record but performing the record. It's both.

1817
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 1: It's you can't have one without the other, especially in

1818
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 1: hip hop. You know what I'm saying, You gotta love both.

1819
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 1: I mean some are only good at one. Yeah, I

1820
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,680
Speaker 1: mean the energy is different, you know what I mean.

1821
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 1: When you make a record and you're in the fucking

1822
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 1: studio and you're smoking with the homies and then the

1823
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,560
Speaker 1: beast saying and you the song is done, You're like, goddamn.

1824
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: And you listen to that ship and the fucking speakers

1825
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 1: on high and the ship's banging, You're like yeah. And

1826
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 1: then when you do a show and you got you know,

1827
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand motherfucker's right there and you're rocking that ship,

1828
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 1: you're like, wo. It's just it's it's two different worlds.

1829
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 1: It's two different energies. You know. I mean it's two

1830
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: different ways of just living as an artist too. It's

1831
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 1: like it's like better at one and not not better

1832
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: at the other, but something co exist and just keep

1833
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 1: killing and killing. It's like connecting the piece to a puzzle. Right.

1834
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 1: If you come to see that song live, you as

1835
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: much as energy, the energy that you put into making

1836
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 1: that song, performing it is everything because you win people

1837
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,760
Speaker 1: over in that performance. Like if you like your song

1838
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 1: and you're having fun to it, it becomes infectious if

1839
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 1: it's a good song, you know what I mean. So

1840
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 1: like you gotta want to do both. You can't be

1841
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 1: good at one and not the other. And some of

1842
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 1: us start good in the studio where ship live. But

1843
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 1: then if you work on it, you can become better

1844
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:06,560
Speaker 1: at it. Like for me, I could say, you know,

1845
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 1: our first years, I was like my energy was you know,

1846
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 1: but longevity is I'm sorry, longevity is an artist tend

1847
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: to like keep your ecosystem like circulating and keep everything moving.

1848
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:20,720
Speaker 1: Do your records, do your shows, do your records, do

1849
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 1: your shows? Do you just keep going and the more

1850
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: shows you do, you get better at it. You know

1851
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because again I was shipped in the beginning,

1852
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 1: my energy was there, but my control and all that exercise, right,

1853
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:33,600
Speaker 1: it came with time and doing it, you know what

1854
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 1: I mean. So you've got to have love for both.

1855
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 1: You gotta love hitting that stage and performing that song

1856
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 1: as much as you did created create creating it. But

1857
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 1: once you already get it on the performance level, it's

1858
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 1: gotta be so fulfilling though, because something that's subjective in

1859
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 1: the studio that you think is dope within the studio, bro,

1860
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:53,640
Speaker 1: and you take it out to the world, and that

1861
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 1: world gives you that energy back. That's got to be

1862
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 1: special energy in the studio, you're creating something from nothing,

1863
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 1: there's nothing there, and you walk into day and you

1864
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,560
Speaker 1: come out with that motherfucker's song, right, like, we just

1865
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: made that ship show. But then the tours fun. But

1866
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 1: but it's the same ship every night, the same ship.

1867
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: The traveling is the hardest part. The shows are the

1868
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 1: fun part, right, and you're doing that every that but

1869
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:16,680
Speaker 1: that's a different energy you get from the crowd. But

1870
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 1: the same ship is making the records right right, being uh,

1871
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:25,599
Speaker 1: being part of being a musician. You know, I loved

1872
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 1: the stage. I love to perform in front of people.

1873
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: You know that jazz motherfucker's since he was five at

1874
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: the Playboy Jazz festical. You know what, but five what

1875
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I knew him, I knew about

1876
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: the stage before recording. But the energy and recording and

1877
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 1: creating something is an incredible you know that energy. But

1878
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get up on the stage and

1879
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 1: just like blow it up, kill it and just get

1880
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 1: that same reception or any kind of reception from you know,

1881
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:05,839
Speaker 1: that big energy from the crowd. That's that's real fulfilling

1882
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, for me, it's a it's a thing

1883
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 1: that I mean, I love being around the brothers in

1884
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 1: the studio, smoking joints, hidden the bond and all that

1885
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 1: ship and recording jams and all that ship. And then um,

1886
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 1: we get a chance to tour around the world and

1887
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 1: have people trip out on what the funk we just

1888
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:31,759
Speaker 1: did you know six months earlier. So it all goes together.

1889
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 1: You if you if you don't record, you can't tour.

1890
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 1: So record to tour, you know what I mean. And

1891
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about. When when you come

1892
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 1: down to talking about being a musician and actively you know,

1893
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: uh you know hip hop band that we do our thing.

1894
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 1: You know, there's not one without the other. You know,

1895
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 1: you gotta have them both, you got and you gotta

1896
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 1: figure out that that balance in the process of your

1897
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: band blowing the funk up and becoming big time famous,

1898
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And remember that it's all

1899
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 1: about the recording, and then you gotta go do this

1900
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 1: fun ship and the fun ship isn't always so fun

1901
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: as it is work. Like Mouk just mentioned, you know

1902
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:26,639
Speaker 1: what I mean that you also speaking of going on tour,

1903
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 1: how different was it going on toward lip Biscuit. It

1904
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 1: was different in the sense of, Okay, well let's start wound,

1905
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, from back in the days, and we were

1906
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 1: doing just strictly hip hop shows and then we come

1907
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 1: across this Lollapellusa thing, right, and then everything switched from there.

1908
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: So from LATEO we saw people walking on top of

1909
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: each other, flipping backwards off the stage. And so when

1910
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: when when Bista came around, um and the size of

1911
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 1: the production and the things they outrageous things they were doing,

1912
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: because Biscuit was always outrageous, you know what I mean.

1913
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 1: So when we're seeing that ship, I'm like, Okay, we

1914
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 1: just gotta go up there and just be ourselves no

1915
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 1: matter what they do, which I give respect to you.

1916
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: You know, we just had to go out and represent,

1917
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 1: you know, be saying bobo and mugs and be and

1918
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 1: do what we do because that's what people came to

1919
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 1: watch us for, not not for not what they're gonna

1920
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 1: do is what we're gonna do. And we always figured

1921
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 1: out a way to you know, scratching that you know,

1922
01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: marking that motherfucking stage that we were on and even

1923
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 1: it even that mark on there forever. Yeah, we're always

1924
01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:40,400
Speaker 1: competitive to about it. You know, like we were either

1925
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 1: gonna steal your slip. Biscuits told us BISU first time,

1926
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 1: the first time ever. It was like we're gonna give

1927
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 1: your music. No read the ship she worked hard for

1928
01:55:57,200 --> 01:56:00,080
Speaker 1: fresh and just shut up and sit back. Have to

1929
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 1: see conflicted about that. But you can't fight technology, and

1930
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: technology is the really ship. There was the horse and

1931
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 1: then there was the car, and the horse motherfucker's was

1932
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 1: like wet things driving out which Metallic was fighting in.

1933
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 1: They were never loses. So you know the record company's

1934
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 1: record companies were behind on that ship. You know, they

1935
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 1: didn't fall in the way they could have, and you

1936
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 1: know put a big debt in the game, but we

1937
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 1: saw something different. So we went on that tour with

1938
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 1: Biscuit and uh yeah, you know it was it was fun.

1939
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean like, yeah, their production is crazy, but they

1940
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 1: scaled it down for that one because it was significantly

1941
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 1: smaller venues and they were playing at the time, all

1942
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:47,760
Speaker 1: the shows was free for the fans. Yeah, nobody paid.

1943
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 1: You just got in line, whoever got in and the

1944
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: door was locked. Not for this crazy, not for nothing.

1945
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 1: We gave. We gave it a hell of a run though,

1946
01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, those fans were there for it.

1947
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 1: Like when we went on and we played our set,

1948
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: it was significant impact, you know what I mean, Like

1949
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 1: they were going crazy, It was explosive. That was what.

1950
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 1: What was the cool thing about Torn with Limp Biscuit

1951
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 1: is that you know, their fans and our fans, you know,

1952
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: mixed together well and it made it for a great tour,

1953
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, they brought it, We

1954
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:24,120
Speaker 1: brought it, and it was a win win. But you know,

1955
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 1: at the time, because we were on this Napster tour,

1956
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't very popular to be doing that ship.

1957
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 1: But you know, we're always like, well, seemed like at

1958
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 1: that time, especially like the industry devil, like this is right,

1959
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 1: but they kind of saw where the industry was gonna go,

1960
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 1: even if they didn't really fully know. They were. You

1961
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 1: gotta skate where the puck's about to go now. And

1962
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 1: for us, it was like, okay, Limp Biscuits asking us

1963
01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: to play support role here you know, some great money,

1964
01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 1: and we're like looking at it like it was all right,

1965
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 1: Um it was. It was more the fact that we

1966
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 1: were going to get it out in front of these fans,

1967
01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: and like possibly when you guys obviously started, but it

1968
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 1: seems like you guys always understood the investment. You know

1969
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 1: what happens Like you might not get to show money

1970
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:19,839
Speaker 1: that night, but your merch is gonna pop. You're publishing

1971
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 1: checks that are already crazy. I'm gonna pop because of

1972
01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 1: that ship. You might have lost let a little bit

1973
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 1: of some for them shows for the intermediate, but for

1974
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 1: the long run, your's about the forever mailbox money just

1975
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 1: just there because you you sacrifice a little bit there,

1976
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you've gotta understand, you

1977
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 1: gotta look at your whole thing system and just like

1978
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 1: invest your time and energy where it's where it's the

1979
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 1: best for you to create the energy to get the

1980
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And and the other thing was,

1981
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, the competitive nature of it, right, being a

1982
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: hip hop group going with this this band that's very

1983
01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 1: aggressive and holding ours within it, you know what I mean,

1984
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 1: like we carry it and because that's important to us,

1985
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: like we can we you can put us in any

1986
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 1: fucking scenario and we're gonna rip ship. We There's been

1987
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: shows that we did where it's like all metal and

1988
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:17,560
Speaker 1: we're the only hip hop on there. And this is

1989
01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 1: before we started kind of doing the fusion type ship

1990
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 1: and just still playing hip hop. And we're opening for

1991
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 1: or playing support for Metallica and a fucking metal metal

1992
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 1: festival and fucking Germany. There's bio Hazard, there's Fear Factory,

1993
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 1: there's Deaf Tones, there's Corn There's all these different groups

1994
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 1: there and we're in there, right and as representative of

1995
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 1: hip hops were hip hop, we're fucking killing it in

1996
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:47,840
Speaker 1: the middle of all these fucking metal groups who you

1997
01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 1: know a lot of these cats came to see and

1998
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: and converting them into Cypress Hill fans, and that that's

1999
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 1: been one of the gifts that we've had, that competitive

2000
01:59:57,160 --> 02:00:00,040
Speaker 1: spirit in us that we're gonna go out there and

2001
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:02,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna make it hard for whoever is coming on.

2002
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 1: Like for me, there was all these motherfucker's that they

2003
02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 1: started like they couldn't wrap, so they started getting making

2004
02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 1: rock bands and it was wrapping on rock shit, but

2005
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 1: they couldn't wrap. So we was like, oh, check this out,

2006
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 1: which I had to do this ship real quick, you know. Yeah,

2007
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:19,800
Speaker 1: and it's like we never had to have a big production,

2008
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, all these crazy things on stage and everything

2009
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 1: like that in the props. We never had to do that,

2010
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of point you did. You had,

2011
02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:33,520
Speaker 1: like we had the skull on the backdrop for a

2012
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:36,320
Speaker 1: long time and we tried to keep it like really

2013
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:40,200
Speaker 1: like about our energy, right. And then there was the

2014
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:42,480
Speaker 1: time we would take Buddha out with us and put

2015
02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:45,400
Speaker 1: him in front of the backdrop and holding that big

2016
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 1: gas leaf and you know, that was probably like the

2017
02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 1: biggest stage figure that we ever had on stage. Next

2018
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 1: along with the King, we had a King that blew

2019
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:56,880
Speaker 1: up and he was sitting on the drone with a

2020
02:00:56,960 --> 02:01:02,440
Speaker 1: big gass joint or split for whatever, and those, you know,

2021
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:05,000
Speaker 1: those were the biggest sort of visuals that we ever

2022
02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 1: had on stage with us, because for us, it was

2023
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:10,640
Speaker 1: all about our energy. If we can't if we can't

2024
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:14,120
Speaker 1: move the crowd on our energy alone and and not

2025
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 1: have all the fucking bells and whistles that you see

2026
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 1: a lot of groups spend a lot of production money on,

2027
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 1: then what the funk are we doing. If I can't

2028
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,480
Speaker 1: rock a small if we can't rock a small club

2029
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 1: or a huge fucking house without all that ship, then

2030
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 1: what are we doing? And so we've always relied on

2031
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 1: our energy, and all that other ship is just you know,

2032
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:39,680
Speaker 1: a visual to like be extra. So you know, we

2033
02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 1: really we we really focused on light shows for a

2034
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 1: minute because we knew a lot of our fans pop

2035
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 1: shrooms before our show and would watch the show, so

2036
02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:51,800
Speaker 1: we gave him something to see, you know what I mean.

2037
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:55,360
Speaker 1: But most of it is, you know, his energy on

2038
02:01:55,440 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 1: the turntables. His energy was before electronic music, like it was.

2039
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 1: We got the inspiration from psychedelic Rocket, you know, I

2040
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 1: mean from the sixties that that electronic music was weird

2041
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:10,720
Speaker 1: for us growing up. Motherfucker's just like had high heels

2042
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:16,360
Speaker 1: and some vaporizers on their nose. Never that ship was weird.

2043
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:26,600
Speaker 1: We was like that ship is over there. You know

2044
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 1: what's crazy about the group is I could go to

2045
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:34,960
Speaker 1: an all hardcore hip hop party the place type bizel.

2046
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:40,480
Speaker 1: I can go to a soft party their place, sype

2047
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 1: of sales. I go to an all white party were

2048
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 1: literally it's only white people there, they're playing type of sales.

2049
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 1: I gotta go to any like you guys are universal group.

2050
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:53,720
Speaker 1: Was that something that was calculated or was that something

2051
02:02:53,800 --> 02:03:00,800
Speaker 1: that was done by mistake? We just dead whatever the

2052
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 1: vibe was, you know, like you know it's it's it's

2053
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:06,040
Speaker 1: like painting pictures. You know, mugs would make the beats

2054
02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, I hear this on this ship.

2055
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 1: So I would try to write what that was, and

2056
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:17,920
Speaker 1: then you know same, you know, as we're constructing this

2057
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:21,320
Speaker 1: ship is just working towards that goal of painting that

2058
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:25,960
Speaker 1: fucking picture. Let me ask you how important it wasn't

2059
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:29,680
Speaker 1: even important too to represent Latinos when you came out,

2060
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:32,400
Speaker 1: like I always tell Nori when he when ceing n

2061
02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:34,960
Speaker 1: came on the scene, just him flipping those couple of

2062
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 1: Spanish words. Was it was it like a like a

2063
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 1: beacon for Latinos out there hip hop? You know? Yeah?

2064
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 1: Because but the thing is that what I try to

2065
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 1: explain to people, like, we never Latinos are part of

2066
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 1: hip hop culture, but you know, the DJs, the graffiti rs,

2067
02:03:57,080 --> 02:03:59,280
Speaker 1: the B boys, everything, we would never as much in

2068
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 1: the forefront for whatever reasons. And so for groups like

2069
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 1: you to come out, like did you guys know what

2070
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:09,600
Speaker 1: you were doing? Like how much like what it could

2071
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:12,400
Speaker 1: do for Latinos and hip hop? Not right away, you

2072
02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:14,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like we uh, as far as

2073
02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:19,480
Speaker 1: me speaking, and I think that we were just more

2074
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:23,080
Speaker 1: concentrated on being a solid hip hop band. And and

2075
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:26,080
Speaker 1: since my brother had already done the Latino thing and

2076
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:28,480
Speaker 1: and Frost and these these are all guys that we

2077
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:31,440
Speaker 1: rolled with, you know what I mean, And I kind

2078
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 1: of felt like we needed to be we need to separate,

2079
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:38,800
Speaker 1: right But at the same time, um, it was coming.

2080
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 1: It was showing through, was coming through in the vocals,

2081
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, and you could tell it kind of over,

2082
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 1: which is what exactly, well exactly and and and when

2083
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 1: I look back at it, I think it was a

2084
02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 1: very important move to you know, to be on there

2085
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 1: on that level, because you know, it opened up to

2086
02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:59,280
Speaker 1: not just America or whatever, it opened up to the hope, Well,

2087
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:02,200
Speaker 1: what's crazy is that, you know, we got signed from

2088
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:06,640
Speaker 1: an all Spanish song that um Send Dog had done

2089
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:11,360
Speaker 1: right called No it's called Caliente something like this, right,

2090
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 1: and you know that's what I got to sign, but

2091
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:22,720
Speaker 1: obviously wouldn't end up using it. But like you know,

2092
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:26,280
Speaker 1: they saw the potential in an a Latino hip hop group,

2093
02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:28,840
Speaker 1: which there wasn't at the time, and we happened to

2094
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 1: be Latino's you know what I mean, And so they

2095
02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:35,200
Speaker 1: thought we're gonna lean on that, and we were like, nah,

2096
02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:38,640
Speaker 1: don't put us in that box. We're gonna sprinkle ship.

2097
02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna sprinkle our ship like mugs would say. You know,

2098
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:46,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna just sprinkle little pieces of it because realistically

2099
02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:50,080
Speaker 1: there's no market for that, and we're gonna be was

2100
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, like you came out like you marketed yourself

2101
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 1: as Latino and then like, let's make dope music. You

2102
02:05:57,840 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 1: don't even need to know what we look like. We're

2103
02:05:59,600 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 1: gonna do like this, hence the mystery of the music.

2104
02:06:04,160 --> 02:06:06,800
Speaker 1: Here's the music, you know what I mean, boom, and

2105
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 1: we sprinkled it with lots of ship because it is

2106
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:11,080
Speaker 1: a part of who we are, you know what I mean.

2107
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:12,960
Speaker 1: You know, you don't lean on it like this is

2108
02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 1: my life because because at that time, if you were Latino,

2109
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 1: you were expected to sound like either Frost or Mellow,

2110
02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 1: and we weren't that, and we weren't going yeah, and

2111
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:28,440
Speaker 1: we weren't going to allow anyone to box us in

2112
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:30,480
Speaker 1: like that because we were we were trying to make

2113
02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:35,240
Speaker 1: hip hop music, not Latino hip hop. And in doing

2114
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:38,360
Speaker 1: that and saying, you know, don't market us this way,

2115
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 1: market us as a hip hop group, we opened the

2116
02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:44,120
Speaker 1: doors for other Latinos because we showed what Latinos can

2117
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:47,720
Speaker 1: do just without a fucking label, just being a hip

2118
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 1: hop group, you know, and that's a label in itself,

2119
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:52,560
Speaker 1: but it was representing hip hop because you weren't overtly

2120
02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:56,680
Speaker 1: trying to be Latinos, were just being hip hop being Latino.

2121
02:06:57,040 --> 02:07:01,280
Speaker 1: It's a difference. And we never really we never really

2122
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:03,960
Speaker 1: played to it heavy. It was just sprinkles. It was

2123
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 1: like the Weed songs. It wasn't like ship like we

2124
02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 1: planned it. You know. It was like whatever mugs gave me,

2125
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:11,240
Speaker 1: if it spoke to me this way, this is the

2126
02:07:11,320 --> 02:07:14,160
Speaker 1: way I'm going right, So that's that's the way the

2127
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:17,640
Speaker 1: Latino ship was. All this ship sounds like, and you know,

2128
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:20,040
Speaker 1: we come from a different part of that. He's nice

2129
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:21,960
Speaker 1: for a Latino that's used to say things like that,

2130
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:25,440
Speaker 1: and I'm nice for period, like, oh like he's nice,

2131
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:27,320
Speaker 1: but he's nice for a Latino, you know what I'm saying,

2132
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:30,440
Speaker 1: Like they used to say ship like that. I think

2133
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:33,440
Speaker 1: I think you guys transcended that. And I think with

2134
02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:42,120
Speaker 1: Debt all was puny because my man right there and

2135
02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:47,120
Speaker 1: Joe as well. Yes, but but you know, and saluted

2136
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:49,600
Speaker 1: Joe man flowers to my man that before I walked down,

2137
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:52,040
Speaker 1: Joe called me, I forget what you called me about.

2138
02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:54,520
Speaker 1: This was crazy because I was so studying y'all and

2139
02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: I was like trying to get him what he was like.

2140
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I'm about the interview type of sales.

2141
02:07:58,440 --> 02:07:59,960
Speaker 1: He said, well, those are the only guys I look

2142
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 1: up to. Joe is my man. He's we've always been

2143
02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:08,080
Speaker 1: locked in, man. You know, he asked me to get

2144
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 1: on on a record with him, punning Coogi Rapp and

2145
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:17,040
Speaker 1: that was like, wow, it was still not a player joint. Yeah,

2146
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:20,880
Speaker 1: coming up, but you know, it's so salute to my

2147
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 1: man Joe, and there's much respect. But pun was a

2148
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:26,720
Speaker 1: different animal. You know what I'm saying in terms of

2149
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 1: being an m C and a writer and a stylist,

2150
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:34,320
Speaker 1: Like a lot of motherfucker's are not doing ship unless

2151
02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:38,160
Speaker 1: they hurt his style. And you know, I foxed with

2152
02:08:38,320 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 1: pun in that way because he was stylish, like with

2153
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:46,560
Speaker 1: his flippage, his burbage and just he was rest in peace. Man.

2154
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:48,200
Speaker 1: He was one. He was one of the best. He

2155
02:08:48,240 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 1: don't get enough flower, one of the best. Told me

2156
02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:56,080
Speaker 1: to say something. Do you remember what you were saying,

2157
02:08:56,640 --> 02:09:01,160
Speaker 1: you were gonna say something, you were saying something, Remember, right,

2158
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:06,920
Speaker 1: you got anything? Then? You know. Um on the Latino thing,

2159
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:09,520
Speaker 1: I think it kind of also hit when we went

2160
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:13,840
Speaker 1: to places like South America and they love hip hop,

2161
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:17,320
Speaker 1: but Cypus Hill gave them something that they can relate to,

2162
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 1: they can understand and they can they can relate and

2163
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:26,280
Speaker 1: doing like when we did this the Spanish album, that

2164
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:29,160
Speaker 1: was like for them. It's like, oh my god, they're

2165
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:31,680
Speaker 1: really like listening to us. You know that this is

2166
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 1: for us. And when we do like I want to

2167
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:39,440
Speaker 1: get High in Spanish, they're singing the hook. I mean

2168
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:41,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't even have to he doesn't even have to

2169
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:48,960
Speaker 1: sing the hook. Are you about to cry no, but

2170
02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 1: but they don't, you know, they sing the hook because

2171
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:55,320
Speaker 1: it's it's like something like wow, you know they got it,

2172
02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:56,880
Speaker 1: you know because a lot of them they're not speaking

2173
02:09:56,920 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 1: in English, but they love hip hop. Was crazy seeing that, like,

2174
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, before we even did our Spanish um album

2175
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:08,320
Speaker 1: or rep whatever you want to call it, to go

2176
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:12,880
Speaker 1: in in these Spanish speaking countries and them, you know,

2177
02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 1: singing songs all in English. They don't know what the

2178
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:19,640
Speaker 1: funk or maybe they got some sort of translation on it,

2179
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:21,520
Speaker 1: but it's a lot of slang, so how do you

2180
02:10:21,640 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 1: properly translate that? Right? But to see them singing the

2181
02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 1: songs and you know, for us that album, that Spanish album, right,

2182
02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:34,360
Speaker 1: that was that was our play and saying you know what,

2183
02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:38,080
Speaker 1: we know we got a Latino fan base. We're gonna

2184
02:10:38,160 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 1: fucking smash one for him, right yeah, And we didn't

2185
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:46,440
Speaker 1: really know how, yeah, well it would be received because

2186
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:50,400
Speaker 1: like the way they send sand Dog and I Flipped

2187
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:53,240
Speaker 1: in Spanish in Los Angeles, it's a different sort of

2188
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:57,879
Speaker 1: it's a hybrid, you know what I mean. So like everywhere,

2189
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:01,400
Speaker 1: like anywhere, it has but it's not matter because everybody's

2190
02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:05,720
Speaker 1: just gonna write it's representative that. So we didn't know that.

2191
02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:08,640
Speaker 1: We were just doing the ship and when it hit

2192
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:11,320
Speaker 1: in South America and it hit in Spain and it

2193
02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, in Central America. Man, we were like, oh

2194
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:17,320
Speaker 1: ship and then you're like, it's a whole another career

2195
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:21,480
Speaker 1: that just opened up that wasn't there yesterday like that. Yeah,

2196
02:11:22,160 --> 02:11:25,760
Speaker 1: the fucking birth like and all that, like you and us.

2197
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:27,840
Speaker 1: You know, I was aout to say you. I was

2198
02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:29,200
Speaker 1: just want to say that because you know, I still

2199
02:11:29,320 --> 02:11:31,520
Speaker 1: always take advantage of that. I did reggae throw and

2200
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:33,840
Speaker 1: I would be like we would go to like hip

2201
02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:36,280
Speaker 1: hop spots and then I would not the Spanish people

2202
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 1: when they build it up like I'm taking full advantage.

2203
02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm taking I remember one year, Um I had the

2204
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:52,480
Speaker 1: port of e Read and um it was me, Jada

2205
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:57,560
Speaker 1: Kiss and somebody else and I broke out. So so

2206
02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:05,160
Speaker 1: I broke out Nina Sky, Daddy, Joe, everybody. And if

2207
02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:10,960
Speaker 1: I get everybody like yeah, I mean I take full advantage.

2208
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:13,200
Speaker 1: And I remember, you know I did some ship with

2209
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:19,640
Speaker 1: with Tony Touch. Salute to the many documents. When we

2210
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:23,520
Speaker 1: made the cup, we did interview for it made the cut.

2211
02:12:23,560 --> 02:12:31,000
Speaker 1: But I've seen people posted props document you understanding. So

2212
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:34,200
Speaker 1: I've done many collaborations with you know what I mean,

2213
02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:36,680
Speaker 1: that's one of my good friends. You to your motherfucker.

2214
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:40,400
Speaker 1: And you know, so I did this joint with him

2215
02:12:40,440 --> 02:12:44,400
Speaker 1: and Nina Sky, and you know, he wanted to film

2216
02:12:44,440 --> 02:12:46,520
Speaker 1: a video for it. I'm like, oh, hell yeah, he's

2217
02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 1: all fly to New York, poppy. You know what I'm saying.

2218
02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:51,880
Speaker 1: I got you. So I go out there and we

2219
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:56,200
Speaker 1: do it and it's for Puerto Rican Day parade, and yeah,

2220
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:59,480
Speaker 1: it was wild. We don't have that ship in l A.

2221
02:12:59,640 --> 02:13:01,680
Speaker 1: So like it was just another experience. It's like when

2222
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:15,640
Speaker 1: it's not that it's not the same thing, the same thing,

2223
02:13:16,120 --> 02:13:18,640
Speaker 1: and you know, mugs would give me experiences and ship

2224
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:20,880
Speaker 1: like this. But like Tony asked me to come out

2225
02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:23,480
Speaker 1: to do the video for for that ship, and you

2226
02:13:23,600 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 1: know it was fucking amazing. And then Fat Joe comes

2227
02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:31,280
Speaker 1: through on his float. He got the flies in the

2228
02:13:31,720 --> 02:13:34,760
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican they parade. It was like nothing, man, you know,

2229
02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:37,160
Speaker 1: Like that's that's the cool thing about New York, man,

2230
02:13:37,560 --> 02:13:43,360
Speaker 1: is it has like party out. You've got cultures, got

2231
02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:46,720
Speaker 1: man cultures s. Every culture is thick and celebrated You

2232
02:13:46,760 --> 02:13:48,920
Speaker 1: know what's funny about the parade. My father used to

2233
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,480
Speaker 1: make me ride the train and I used to sit

2234
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:54,400
Speaker 1: on this cooler and he's made don't get up to cooler,

2235
02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:56,880
Speaker 1: and then I would sit on the cooler and then

2236
02:13:56,920 --> 02:13:59,800
Speaker 1: we will make it to the actual We gotta get

2237
02:13:59,800 --> 02:14:01,680
Speaker 1: there only to get a spot. So you gotta get

2238
02:14:01,720 --> 02:14:05,080
Speaker 1: there like around seven seven some thirty eight. So I've

2239
02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:07,400
Speaker 1: opened up the cooler and my father will have me

2240
02:14:07,440 --> 02:14:14,280
Speaker 1: selling beers. I swear to God, seven years old, nothing

2241
02:14:14,400 --> 02:14:22,960
Speaker 1: wrong with this selling beers and man had at the

2242
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:36,000
Speaker 1: point of raided seven years how much right having practs

2243
02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:37,600
Speaker 1: because back then you should get a bear for a ball,

2244
02:14:37,720 --> 02:14:39,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like if you're going

2245
02:14:39,440 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 1: to a basketball game, that beer for like twelve bucks. Yeah,

2246
02:14:43,480 --> 02:14:45,760
Speaker 1: it might be five at this point. Yeah, she is

2247
02:14:45,760 --> 02:14:48,760
Speaker 1: crazy 'all here. So what made you I want to

2248
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:52,120
Speaker 1: do this documentary? I think the history of it all

2249
02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:54,560
Speaker 1: is important, you know what I mean, because we were

2250
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:58,280
Speaker 1: the the kids we were. We were the kids that

2251
02:14:58,920 --> 02:15:00,760
Speaker 1: everybody had caught it out, you know what I mean,

2252
02:15:01,080 --> 02:15:04,800
Speaker 1: no point of view. Wee know I'm talking about from

2253
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:10,080
Speaker 1: the original reception. But he was off, you know, doing

2254
02:15:10,160 --> 02:15:13,880
Speaker 1: some hardcore game bang and stuff. I was working warehouses,

2255
02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:18,120
Speaker 1: hadn't met Bobo yet. Muggs was always the driven one

2256
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:23,000
Speaker 1: trying to you know, you know, go get him. You know,

2257
02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:28,720
Speaker 1: we need him freezing. He was already us before that

2258
02:15:28,840 --> 02:15:31,480
Speaker 1: group and and you know so that but that group

2259
02:15:31,640 --> 02:15:35,120
Speaker 1: was the entry into the game, you know what I mean.

2260
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:38,560
Speaker 1: And because we were already boys before then, you know,

2261
02:15:38,680 --> 02:15:42,600
Speaker 1: Julio g salute to him, you know what I mean.

2262
02:15:42,880 --> 02:15:45,840
Speaker 1: And you know, we were like minded individuals, all of us.

2263
02:15:46,360 --> 02:15:49,160
Speaker 1: The type of ship we listened to aside from hip

2264
02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:52,640
Speaker 1: hop before hip hop and hip hop, you know that

2265
02:15:52,800 --> 02:15:55,440
Speaker 1: this is like something we all had in common. And uh,

2266
02:15:55,680 --> 02:15:57,800
Speaker 1: you know that's how we met Muggs was was through

2267
02:15:57,880 --> 02:16:01,040
Speaker 1: Julio and ship like that. So for a second, like, um,

2268
02:16:01,680 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 1: like how did you how did you hook up with Julio? Uh?

2269
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:09,600
Speaker 1: I was you're bigger Julio. I had a homeboy in

2270
02:16:09,960 --> 02:16:12,480
Speaker 1: Bell Gardens that had a cousin and knew Julio and

2271
02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:19,560
Speaker 1: I was d Jane, but he wasn't was about some

2272
02:16:19,680 --> 02:16:22,320
Speaker 1: freestyle ship and it was all Latino. You know, all

2273
02:16:22,360 --> 02:16:24,520
Speaker 1: the neighbors was lat you know what we was sped

2274
02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:31,400
Speaker 1: at the party and that was the hip hop he played.

2275
02:16:31,480 --> 02:16:34,120
Speaker 1: So I was I was on some hip hop and

2276
02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:36,120
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, my my cousin's homing. He's on

2277
02:16:36,160 --> 02:16:38,360
Speaker 1: some hip hop ship. So I went to this club.

2278
02:16:38,840 --> 02:16:41,080
Speaker 1: It was a Capri, right, yeah, this club called a

2279
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:43,800
Speaker 1: Capri right there, but right right right where they lived

2280
02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:46,120
Speaker 1: and ship. So I went over there, met Julio and

2281
02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:49,480
Speaker 1: then kicked with Julio for about a year d Jane

2282
02:16:49,560 --> 02:16:51,440
Speaker 1: and then one day he was like, you want to

2283
02:16:51,440 --> 02:16:53,359
Speaker 1: bring these dudes over. We need to make a cassette

2284
02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:56,320
Speaker 1: cool And I was like, pull up, and then he came,

2285
02:16:56,800 --> 02:17:03,160
Speaker 1: your brother came. How did y'all go with Julio that? Well,

2286
02:17:03,440 --> 02:17:06,600
Speaker 1: Julio was you know, he went to south Gate High

2287
02:17:06,920 --> 02:17:11,320
Speaker 1: with yeah, with with Sin Dog's brother and and so

2288
02:17:11,480 --> 02:17:14,200
Speaker 1: we knew Julio through and he was, you know, in

2289
02:17:14,280 --> 02:17:16,680
Speaker 1: the B boys circles over there. Man, he was nice

2290
02:17:16,720 --> 02:17:19,000
Speaker 1: on the floor, but so was Bugs Mugs a beast

2291
02:17:19,080 --> 02:17:23,800
Speaker 1: on the motherfucking for my different story, but you know,

2292
02:17:23,879 --> 02:17:27,560
Speaker 1: we knew Julio through through uh through Mellow, you know,

2293
02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:30,520
Speaker 1: and they were both into the hip hop ship, you know,

2294
02:17:30,760 --> 02:17:33,240
Speaker 1: be boying and all that stuff before we got into rapid.

2295
02:17:33,920 --> 02:17:35,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, and so that's how we

2296
02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:38,560
Speaker 1: knew Julio, and Julio eventually transitioned out of the B

2297
02:17:38,680 --> 02:17:41,360
Speaker 1: Boys shipped into the turntables, you know what I mean.

2298
02:17:41,720 --> 02:17:45,680
Speaker 1: And and um, you know that's when these two guys met,

2299
02:17:45,720 --> 02:17:48,680
Speaker 1: when they both transitioned transitioned out of the B Boys

2300
02:17:48,680 --> 02:17:52,160
Speaker 1: shipped into you know, getting on the turntables and doing ship.

2301
02:17:52,440 --> 02:17:55,000
Speaker 1: And so we knew Julio for a while, you know

2302
02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:59,400
Speaker 1: what I mean. Um, we saw him go from you know,

2303
02:18:00,360 --> 02:18:04,280
Speaker 1: doing doing breakdown shipped into going to turntables and eventually

2304
02:18:04,400 --> 02:18:06,960
Speaker 1: going to k which was the hip hop station in

2305
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:09,480
Speaker 1: l A at the time. And it's like, you know

2306
02:18:09,520 --> 02:18:11,400
Speaker 1: how there is a certain clubs and the certain parties

2307
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:13,080
Speaker 1: in that neighborhood, right and we're all going to those

2308
02:18:13,120 --> 02:18:15,480
Speaker 1: clubs and parties and you see my fucker's like going

2309
02:18:15,560 --> 02:18:19,320
Speaker 1: through their stages and ship and and you know, so Julio,

2310
02:18:19,920 --> 02:18:22,680
Speaker 1: we saw him go through all that, and uh, you

2311
02:18:22,760 --> 02:18:26,800
Speaker 1: know when we were just sort of doing this ship

2312
02:18:26,879 --> 02:18:29,480
Speaker 1: at as a hobby, he you know, them them too

2313
02:18:29,600 --> 02:18:33,080
Speaker 1: met and were fully felt like this time we didn't know,

2314
02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:35,920
Speaker 1: we didn't know who who he was too young, he

2315
02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:39,160
Speaker 1: was he was that was this was like in what

2316
02:18:39,360 --> 02:18:45,520
Speaker 1: eighties seven six, I was sixteen years old. We was

2317
02:18:45,600 --> 02:18:47,560
Speaker 1: kicking in the eighty six and our first record came

2318
02:18:47,560 --> 02:18:51,720
Speaker 1: out of and so we was kicking it. Yeah. They

2319
02:18:53,080 --> 02:18:57,480
Speaker 1: actually went to high school together, right, so so we

2320
02:18:57,720 --> 02:19:01,120
Speaker 1: were always aware of his of him in the area. Right.

2321
02:19:01,640 --> 02:19:04,720
Speaker 1: So when we first started, you know, doing the rap thing,

2322
02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:08,840
Speaker 1: the only other guy in Salgate High School that DJ

2323
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:13,440
Speaker 1: was Julio G. Yeah, And Julio was Mellow's DJ. And

2324
02:19:13,520 --> 02:19:16,520
Speaker 1: when he got on with Mentetosa and all that, like

2325
02:19:16,640 --> 02:19:21,199
Speaker 1: for his most Mellows run, it was Julio GA. Yeah

2326
02:19:21,640 --> 02:19:25,480
Speaker 1: and yeah as his DJ. And and Tony G was

2327
02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, his his like the guy that that Julio

2328
02:19:30,720 --> 02:19:32,800
Speaker 1: was like apprentice to you know what I mean, Like

2329
02:19:32,920 --> 02:19:36,000
Speaker 1: Tony was like the master at the fucking time. We

2330
02:19:36,120 --> 02:19:38,480
Speaker 1: all looked up to Tony G. And you know, Julio

2331
02:19:38,560 --> 02:19:40,680
Speaker 1: G came from Tony, you know what I'm saying. So

2332
02:19:41,760 --> 02:19:44,920
Speaker 1: and we you know, we went that far back with Julio,

2333
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, And that's why he even spent time on

2334
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:50,480
Speaker 1: tour with us like DJ. And you know what I'm saying, Um,

2335
02:19:50,600 --> 02:19:57,520
Speaker 1: So salute to Julio G. If it wasn't for Julio.

2336
02:19:57,680 --> 02:20:00,280
Speaker 1: We don't meet mugs and there's no fucking Cyprus. Yeah,

2337
02:20:00,320 --> 02:20:03,160
Speaker 1: there's there's that connection that all of a sudden happened

2338
02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:10,880
Speaker 1: one year and yeah, and Julio was from Linwood. It

2339
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:15,680
Speaker 1: was from South Catia. We was kicking it and then

2340
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:18,920
Speaker 1: one day we had a homeboy named Eli. He was like, yeah,

2341
02:20:18,920 --> 02:20:21,480
Speaker 1: I met these two dudes from New York called Breton

2342
02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:24,840
Speaker 1: Seawn from seven eight three. It was these two kids

2343
02:20:24,879 --> 02:20:27,480
Speaker 1: from East New York from Linden Projects in East New York.

2344
02:20:27,520 --> 02:20:29,400
Speaker 1: And it was signed with Iced Tea. And then I

2345
02:20:29,480 --> 02:20:32,879
Speaker 1: got down with them and it was signed Nice Tea.

2346
02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:35,360
Speaker 1: And then we were throwing the party in East l A.

2347
02:20:35,440 --> 02:20:38,920
Speaker 1: And they came and he was like, Hey, you want

2348
02:20:38,920 --> 02:20:40,280
Speaker 1: to do a show with us. We're throwing a party

2349
02:20:40,280 --> 02:20:42,880
Speaker 1: in East and they came and then um, eventually I

2350
02:20:42,959 --> 02:20:45,840
Speaker 1: got with them, put out a record with them on Colors,

2351
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:49,720
Speaker 1: the Color Sounds track. Yeah, and then um we went

2352
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:52,120
Speaker 1: out and put out the album and Ship and you know,

2353
02:20:52,400 --> 02:20:55,600
Speaker 1: and those are some of the homies too. He was

2354
02:20:55,640 --> 02:20:57,960
Speaker 1: down with Raps the Kid at one point, right Syndicate,

2355
02:20:59,560 --> 02:21:03,360
Speaker 1: Iced Tea rom Syndicate, Um that group seven eight three

2356
02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:06,720
Speaker 1: was down with Ron syndicate, so um we we we

2357
02:21:06,920 --> 02:21:08,960
Speaker 1: was down with Iced Tea. He was like a little

2358
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:10,640
Speaker 1: older homie, you know what I mean, putting us up

2359
02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:13,200
Speaker 1: on game talking ship, letting us know us up. He's like,

2360
02:21:13,280 --> 02:21:15,600
Speaker 1: you want to be in this rap game, y'all want

2361
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:17,119
Speaker 1: to hang out and like flex in front of these

2362
02:21:17,160 --> 02:21:18,600
Speaker 1: bitches and ship, you know what I mean. Yeah, y'all,

2363
02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:20,800
Speaker 1: motherfucker's don't even put in the motherfucking work, you know

2364
02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean, putting the motherfucking work HOMEI you gotta show

2365
02:21:23,440 --> 02:21:25,040
Speaker 1: up to the ship eight hours a day, like a

2366
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:26,720
Speaker 1: fucking job if you think you want to get money.

2367
02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:30,480
Speaker 1: And like eighties seven and I was, I was a

2368
02:21:30,520 --> 02:21:34,160
Speaker 1: little kid, like, hey man, we gotta put in this

2369
02:21:34,280 --> 02:21:36,000
Speaker 1: fucking work. You know. If we're gonna get this ship,

2370
02:21:37,600 --> 02:21:39,640
Speaker 1: this ain't like a little a little hobby or something.

2371
02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:41,320
Speaker 1: If we're gonna do this ship, we're gonna do it right.

2372
02:21:41,320 --> 02:21:43,120
Speaker 1: We need to put the working like it's a nine

2373
02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:45,360
Speaker 1: to five, you know what I mean. And then he

2374
02:21:45,560 --> 02:21:49,880
Speaker 1: was always closest to the sources, so we'd absorbed from him, no,

2375
02:21:51,000 --> 02:21:53,640
Speaker 1: because he'd be with like Ice and them, you know

2376
02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:57,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. Absorbed. The music industry was small back then,

2377
02:21:57,840 --> 02:21:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, there was nothing. There was like there was

2378
02:21:59,640 --> 02:22:02,120
Speaker 1: no access to a record label. You had to know

2379
02:22:02,320 --> 02:22:04,720
Speaker 1: homie either knew a homie or I knew you that

2380
02:22:04,800 --> 02:22:07,160
Speaker 1: knew somebody at the label. But that was it. There

2381
02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:09,240
Speaker 1: wasn't there wasn't a shortcut to the label. And I

2382
02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:11,720
Speaker 1: got a big up Brett b you know what I'm saying,

2383
02:22:11,720 --> 02:22:14,160
Speaker 1: because he actually taught me how to write a song.

2384
02:22:14,320 --> 02:22:16,320
Speaker 1: I went, you know, I was writing raps before and

2385
02:22:16,400 --> 02:22:19,560
Speaker 1: I was pretty good at writing, but like I didn't

2386
02:22:19,600 --> 02:22:23,520
Speaker 1: know shit about writing songs and he knew that, you know,

2387
02:22:23,720 --> 02:22:26,920
Speaker 1: back then and rapped. There wasn't hooks yet was rapping,

2388
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:31,440
Speaker 1: so it was like hooks like bridges making songs, making

2389
02:22:31,480 --> 02:22:36,080
Speaker 1: records like another another music genres they were doing that,

2390
02:22:36,280 --> 02:22:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, but in hip hop it wasn't so prevalent, right,

2391
02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:41,720
Speaker 1: So you know the one thing about Brett is he

2392
02:22:41,800 --> 02:22:44,160
Speaker 1: showed me how to break those pieces down, you know

2393
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:45,760
Speaker 1: what I mean, because like I didn't know how to

2394
02:22:45,800 --> 02:22:50,160
Speaker 1: write a song up until you know, we I think

2395
02:22:50,200 --> 02:22:54,440
Speaker 1: it was I think maybe hand on the pump like

2396
02:22:54,760 --> 02:22:57,560
Speaker 1: was like the key in where I was like, oh

2397
02:22:57,760 --> 02:23:00,480
Speaker 1: I get it now, you know what I mean? In

2398
02:23:00,600 --> 02:23:03,120
Speaker 1: our demos in our in all our demos, like, and

2399
02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:05,800
Speaker 1: we did a lot their ship that you know, people

2400
02:23:05,800 --> 02:23:07,840
Speaker 1: would trip out on because we don't even sound like

2401
02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:11,960
Speaker 1: us at that point. But you know, at a point

2402
02:23:12,040 --> 02:23:14,960
Speaker 1: where we snapped in right hand on the Pump was

2403
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:17,960
Speaker 1: one of the songs where Brett like we co wrote

2404
02:23:18,040 --> 02:23:20,200
Speaker 1: that song. He took lead, but I co wrote it,

2405
02:23:20,959 --> 02:23:24,960
Speaker 1: and that sort of gave me the oh, this is

2406
02:23:25,000 --> 02:23:28,560
Speaker 1: how you write a structure, right, And so I started instructuring,

2407
02:23:29,000 --> 02:23:32,760
Speaker 1: structuring all my writing after this. And man, if it

2408
02:23:32,920 --> 02:23:36,080
Speaker 1: wasn't for that experience with fucking Brett, I would have

2409
02:23:36,160 --> 02:23:39,040
Speaker 1: never never learned how to write a song. So salute

2410
02:23:39,080 --> 02:23:43,000
Speaker 1: to you, Brett. What I'm saying, So you guys marketed

2411
02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:47,000
Speaker 1: yourself as like the rap chech Chong, right, I don't

2412
02:23:47,000 --> 02:23:52,600
Speaker 1: know if I pronounced, But how dope was it for

2413
02:23:52,680 --> 02:23:54,920
Speaker 1: them to embrace y'all like because you have seen him

2414
02:23:54,920 --> 02:23:57,840
Speaker 1: on the dog like at the being that had joke.

2415
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:04,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, you know, your friends broke into their

2416
02:24:04,520 --> 02:24:10,400
Speaker 1: house kids growing up, you know, teaching chunk movies or

2417
02:24:10,480 --> 02:24:14,480
Speaker 1: everything for us kids in the south Gate, and I

2418
02:24:14,560 --> 02:24:17,320
Speaker 1: wanted to be like them, led to all this ship here.

2419
02:24:18,720 --> 02:24:21,360
Speaker 1: So it's kind of very I received it very well,

2420
02:24:21,400 --> 02:24:23,680
Speaker 1: and I was very grateful, you know. You know, for me,

2421
02:24:23,800 --> 02:24:26,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't more like not necessarily being like them, because

2422
02:24:26,600 --> 02:24:28,880
Speaker 1: we're not like them, you know what I mean. But

2423
02:24:29,200 --> 02:24:34,480
Speaker 1: but but it was representing the way they did unapologetically

2424
02:24:34,720 --> 02:24:38,760
Speaker 1: rebellious style and they didn't really care what people thought,

2425
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:41,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we said we're going

2426
02:24:41,640 --> 02:24:43,720
Speaker 1: to be that because this is who it is who

2427
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:46,560
Speaker 1: we are. And you know, they were definitely an inspiration

2428
02:24:46,600 --> 02:24:50,240
Speaker 1: because we all grew up to their movies. We was

2429
02:24:50,320 --> 02:24:53,879
Speaker 1: like on the corner drinking, smoking, doing whatever right there,

2430
02:24:53,959 --> 02:24:55,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And he was like, let's

2431
02:24:55,080 --> 02:24:56,600
Speaker 1: just go on the studio and do the same ship,

2432
02:24:57,520 --> 02:24:59,800
Speaker 1: start making records. It was like all the money is better, right.

2433
02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:05,240
Speaker 1: And meeting Teach and Chong. I mean, I think that's

2434
02:25:05,240 --> 02:25:07,039
Speaker 1: the part, because you know, people could have been like, well,

2435
02:25:07,520 --> 02:25:09,240
Speaker 1: these kids are kind of like kind of trying to

2436
02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:11,800
Speaker 1: be like us up, but they didn't do that. They

2437
02:25:11,840 --> 02:25:15,160
Speaker 1: actually embraced Yeah, that's what's dope about. They were actually

2438
02:25:15,240 --> 02:25:18,760
Speaker 1: on two of our albums. They did um intro pieces

2439
02:25:18,920 --> 02:25:22,240
Speaker 1: or like you know, transition pieces or you know, sketches

2440
02:25:22,360 --> 02:25:25,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, and Like I remember the first time we

2441
02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:28,440
Speaker 1: did some ship with them, I couldn't keep it together.

2442
02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:30,560
Speaker 1: I was laughing the whole time and I blew the

2443
02:25:30,680 --> 02:25:35,800
Speaker 1: session because Chong was hilariously funny. You know what I'm saying. Um,

2444
02:25:36,160 --> 02:25:40,720
Speaker 1: I know that's redundant, but he was. Um. But having

2445
02:25:40,800 --> 02:25:43,400
Speaker 1: them say, yes, right, what We've been praising them the

2446
02:25:43,480 --> 02:25:46,640
Speaker 1: whole time and you know, sort of referencing them in lines,

2447
02:25:46,760 --> 02:25:49,440
Speaker 1: and then like you know, Red and everybody else did

2448
02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:52,880
Speaker 1: after that, Um, you know, it was everything to have

2449
02:25:53,080 --> 02:25:56,199
Speaker 1: them come and do sketches for us and be funny

2450
02:25:56,320 --> 02:25:59,560
Speaker 1: for us, and then develop a relationship with them because

2451
02:25:59,600 --> 02:26:02,240
Speaker 1: I didn't eating greets with Chong and you know, sat

2452
02:26:02,360 --> 02:26:05,040
Speaker 1: with both of them and in different places that we've

2453
02:26:05,080 --> 02:26:07,840
Speaker 1: all done that with them, and they really embraced us,

2454
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:10,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, you know, to have

2455
02:26:10,800 --> 02:26:14,080
Speaker 1: like guys that influenced us be like that, you know,

2456
02:26:14,280 --> 02:26:16,400
Speaker 1: funk man. I mean, there's there's no words that can

2457
02:26:16,440 --> 02:26:19,320
Speaker 1: really describe that. It's sort of like Chuck d I mean,

2458
02:26:19,400 --> 02:26:22,720
Speaker 1: we grew up fucking with Public Enemy like it was

2459
02:26:22,760 --> 02:26:25,320
Speaker 1: one of our biggest influences. And to be able to

2460
02:26:25,400 --> 02:26:29,760
Speaker 1: work with them and embrace it, Yes, it's it's surreal.

2461
02:26:29,879 --> 02:26:32,320
Speaker 1: But with Cheach and Chong, I mean they they were

2462
02:26:32,360 --> 02:26:36,200
Speaker 1: one of the biggest influences in terms of the cannabis representations.

2463
02:26:36,320 --> 02:26:39,840
Speaker 1: So for them to embrace us and say, yeah, these

2464
02:26:39,920 --> 02:26:43,640
Speaker 1: motherfucker's are the guys, we funk with them. Everybody else

2465
02:26:43,720 --> 02:26:46,480
Speaker 1: that was in that industry funked with us at them.

2466
02:26:46,720 --> 02:26:49,960
Speaker 1: You know, at that point, did you ever have a

2467
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:54,360
Speaker 1: smoke off with them that needs to happen? Maybe back

2468
02:26:54,400 --> 02:26:56,200
Speaker 1: in their younger days they smoked a lot, but like

2469
02:26:56,360 --> 02:26:59,520
Speaker 1: I think one of them a smoke them one of them, yeah,

2470
02:26:59,600 --> 02:27:01,880
Speaker 1: well they they they sort of sort of smoke, but

2471
02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:04,080
Speaker 1: it could out smoke be real coome man, who's gonna

2472
02:27:04,160 --> 02:27:06,000
Speaker 1: smoke your body? Fucking with me and got my money

2473
02:27:06,040 --> 02:27:14,320
Speaker 1: on any of the house. You know, all the guys

2474
02:27:14,879 --> 02:27:18,039
Speaker 1: that we know as the big smoke or smoke a lot, right,

2475
02:27:18,760 --> 02:27:21,560
Speaker 1: either they smoke a lot of joints, or they smoke

2476
02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:24,640
Speaker 1: a lot of blunts, or might one might do a

2477
02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:27,280
Speaker 1: lot of dab hits or this or that, right, I

2478
02:27:27,400 --> 02:27:32,720
Speaker 1: do it all so like you know in the realm

2479
02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:35,920
Speaker 1: of of of of the homies where we all smoke heavy.

2480
02:27:36,440 --> 02:27:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we can all smoke flour together like you know,

2481
02:27:39,400 --> 02:27:42,160
Speaker 1: and Hank, you know, as many joints as I could smoke,

2482
02:27:42,640 --> 02:27:46,359
Speaker 1: Burner and Snoop could smoke as many smoked as a currency.

2483
02:27:46,440 --> 02:27:49,360
Speaker 1: All the guys, right, they're all pros. They would just

2484
02:27:49,480 --> 02:27:52,760
Speaker 1: be one big smoke session. But the guys who could

2485
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:59,640
Speaker 1: do everything, that's that's that's Whizzing myself. You know, I'm

2486
02:27:59,640 --> 02:28:02,440
Speaker 1: saying we do it all like. So, if it's edibles,

2487
02:28:02,480 --> 02:28:05,640
Speaker 1: we funk with that. If it's if it's the dabs,

2488
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:09,400
Speaker 1: we do that. If it's the flowers smoking, we do

2489
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:12,160
Speaker 1: all that. So really, you know, Whiz is like a

2490
02:28:12,280 --> 02:28:15,840
Speaker 1: fucking monster, like I am, I don't do all of that.

2491
02:28:19,280 --> 02:28:25,000
Speaker 1: The other day on dream chance that was true, we

2492
02:28:25,160 --> 02:28:29,600
Speaker 1: used to doom stage, but that was shool like row shooms,

2493
02:28:29,640 --> 02:28:34,040
Speaker 1: that was chocolate all that I like. But this crew

2494
02:28:34,240 --> 02:28:36,360
Speaker 1: right here, we used to do shrooms on stage. We

2495
02:28:36,560 --> 02:28:43,600
Speaker 1: pop like maybe an eighth of shrooms. And yeah, the

2496
02:28:43,720 --> 02:28:51,200
Speaker 1: documentary we got offended by that. Oh yeah, we were

2497
02:28:51,240 --> 02:28:55,240
Speaker 1: doing we were doing this place, and we were doing

2498
02:28:55,320 --> 02:28:58,320
Speaker 1: this place called Casamino Real, right and and it's a

2499
02:28:58,480 --> 02:29:01,560
Speaker 1: it's a spot that was legend area and early hip

2500
02:29:01,640 --> 02:29:07,880
Speaker 1: hop in Los Angeles. A lot bangers and everything, right,

2501
02:29:08,360 --> 02:29:11,480
Speaker 1: and I remember we got this purple unicorn acid. Remember

2502
02:29:11,560 --> 02:29:15,440
Speaker 1: that ship, your purple and unicorn. Yes, somebody got it

2503
02:29:15,480 --> 02:29:18,520
Speaker 1: at a Grateful Day. Somebody got it at a Grateful

2504
02:29:18,560 --> 02:29:22,000
Speaker 1: Dead concert doors and we fucking popped it. Do you

2505
02:29:22,040 --> 02:29:29,760
Speaker 1: remember that? No, I don't definitely popped the ship with me.

2506
02:29:29,920 --> 02:29:32,560
Speaker 1: We were like, oh no, no, you weren't there. Maybe

2507
02:29:32,600 --> 02:29:37,640
Speaker 1: I was the only one that popped. And I swear

2508
02:29:37,720 --> 02:29:40,280
Speaker 1: to God, dog, I popped the ship, and and uh,

2509
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, like we're doing the show and everything got crazy,

2510
02:29:44,760 --> 02:29:47,160
Speaker 1: like in the middle of the show, like I'm walking

2511
02:29:47,240 --> 02:29:51,200
Speaker 1: on stage and I'm feeling like I'm walking in quicksand right,

2512
02:29:51,360 --> 02:29:54,480
Speaker 1: that's one. And then you know, this is at the

2513
02:29:54,560 --> 02:29:57,160
Speaker 1: time where the new style of lighting is coming on,

2514
02:29:57,320 --> 02:30:02,200
Speaker 1: with those fucking beams that switched lers there like a stream. Yeah,

2515
02:30:02,959 --> 02:30:05,480
Speaker 1: And I'm like in the middle of the show and

2516
02:30:05,800 --> 02:30:10,320
Speaker 1: I start peeking and I catch eye with that fucking

2517
02:30:10,400 --> 02:30:12,760
Speaker 1: beam and I'm just looking up at the light, doing

2518
02:30:12,920 --> 02:30:16,400
Speaker 1: my verse, like totally concentrating on the light show that's

2519
02:30:16,440 --> 02:30:19,840
Speaker 1: happening above me. And I don't know what these guys

2520
02:30:19,959 --> 02:30:22,120
Speaker 1: were doing in the middle of that, but I was

2521
02:30:22,240 --> 02:30:25,160
Speaker 1: just totally fucking snapped into that fucking light show. And

2522
02:30:25,280 --> 02:30:28,800
Speaker 1: that was the type of ship there would happen when

2523
02:30:28,840 --> 02:30:32,200
Speaker 1: we were sucking doing psychedelics on stage, because most of

2524
02:30:32,200 --> 02:30:38,520
Speaker 1: the mushrooms cost well, we would but most a lot

2525
02:30:38,600 --> 02:30:46,360
Speaker 1: of other times we were doing mushrooms. I took a

2526
02:30:46,440 --> 02:30:48,120
Speaker 1: mess tab one night and I was on a sea saw,

2527
02:30:48,560 --> 02:30:52,560
Speaker 1: but I was about myself and not You just take

2528
02:30:52,600 --> 02:30:54,360
Speaker 1: an ounce of mushrooms and put them in a coffee

2529
02:30:54,400 --> 02:30:56,080
Speaker 1: grinder and grind them up to dust and then put

2530
02:30:56,120 --> 02:31:00,520
Speaker 1: them in some honey. That part a little take little spoon.

2531
02:31:00,760 --> 02:31:04,080
Speaker 1: Is that much musom and you could take that honey?

2532
02:31:04,200 --> 02:31:10,720
Speaker 1: Did muroom teath all? That's easy stort of doing the

2533
02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:13,480
Speaker 1: much room mushroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that gets you quick

2534
02:31:13,600 --> 02:31:15,680
Speaker 1: and it likes you already and it just like turns

2535
02:31:15,720 --> 02:31:18,320
Speaker 1: you well. If you take too much, it's not like

2536
02:31:19,280 --> 02:31:22,440
Speaker 1: it's not too high. We never did Michael does back

2537
02:31:22,480 --> 02:31:29,000
Speaker 1: of those those days. It was all your overdog. Yeah.

2538
02:31:29,600 --> 02:31:31,560
Speaker 1: The other one time I did it was no micro

2539
02:31:31,640 --> 02:31:36,200
Speaker 1: dos back. Everything was overdose. I did some mushroom tea.

2540
02:31:36,760 --> 02:31:41,560
Speaker 1: We were doing Smoking Gurus uh tour and uh it

2541
02:31:41,680 --> 02:31:44,880
Speaker 1: was in Colorado and some homies came, you know, and

2542
02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:47,959
Speaker 1: they brought some mushroom tea and everything they said, they said,

2543
02:31:48,200 --> 02:31:52,080
Speaker 1: only take a little bit. I did, like the whole

2544
02:31:52,240 --> 02:31:53,920
Speaker 1: damn cut a lot of he did a lot of

2545
02:31:55,200 --> 02:32:01,800
Speaker 1: whatever anybody tell y'all to do, right, Yeah, and uh,

2546
02:32:02,200 --> 02:32:04,959
Speaker 1: within minutes, I was, I was done. I was sniquing

2547
02:32:05,040 --> 02:32:07,880
Speaker 1: all over. Man. I only knew this fool's phone number,

2548
02:32:08,040 --> 02:32:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean on the hotel phone, you know room. And

2549
02:32:11,400 --> 02:32:20,000
Speaker 1: the first thing I says, I can't think it was

2550
02:32:24,200 --> 02:32:27,000
Speaker 1: like some horrible ship. I'm like bobo and he's like

2551
02:32:27,600 --> 02:32:43,040
Speaker 1: help me. Yeah he was. Yeah, And I don't remember

2552
02:32:43,120 --> 02:32:45,560
Speaker 1: that show. But I somehow made it to the stage

2553
02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:48,959
Speaker 1: and I couldn't play. For the first time in my life,

2554
02:32:48,959 --> 02:32:51,640
Speaker 1: I could not play. I somehow got up on the

2555
02:32:51,760 --> 02:32:57,039
Speaker 1: stage and I was playing some crazy rhythms to the multiverse,

2556
02:32:57,760 --> 02:33:02,000
Speaker 1: playing some other rhythms that he did not understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2557
02:33:02,959 --> 02:33:05,959
Speaker 1: it might be. It's like cutting me off the stage

2558
02:33:06,000 --> 02:33:08,160
Speaker 1: and put me in the bunk, Like, yo, get this

2559
02:33:08,320 --> 02:33:12,520
Speaker 1: fool off the stage, you know. So yeah, no, no,

2560
02:33:12,640 --> 02:33:17,039
Speaker 1: no for him puts your favor place to perform at.

2561
02:33:18,520 --> 02:33:21,520
Speaker 1: That's tough because everywhere, you know, we get a pretty

2562
02:33:21,560 --> 02:33:25,600
Speaker 1: goddamn good reception. New York has always been crazy with

2563
02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:30,280
Speaker 1: our annual you know showdown there. Nuts. But I would

2564
02:33:30,320 --> 02:33:32,720
Speaker 1: say in the last like big shows that we did,

2565
02:33:32,840 --> 02:33:37,320
Speaker 1: like Festival Style France, France, then motherfucker's went off for

2566
02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:44,160
Speaker 1: some cypress hillship right. They get live when it's them properly, um,

2567
02:33:45,400 --> 02:33:50,119
Speaker 1: you know, and it goes off correctly, you know, Los Angeles, California.

2568
02:33:50,840 --> 02:33:54,240
Speaker 1: I always liked it from my own backyard and flex

2569
02:33:54,360 --> 02:34:00,960
Speaker 1: my style south Gate Nigga south Gate like in recent

2570
02:34:01,080 --> 02:34:08,640
Speaker 1: years chaotic. They don't want us down there, you mean,

2571
02:34:09,760 --> 02:34:12,720
Speaker 1: doesn't want us down there, Not not because they hate us,

2572
02:34:13,000 --> 02:34:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, Um, it's because it would it would probably

2573
02:34:15,879 --> 02:34:17,880
Speaker 1: be chaotic. And I don't know if they're ready for that,

2574
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, done properly. But what better example than you

2575
02:34:22,480 --> 02:34:25,440
Speaker 1: guys for the kids in the youth and south. I'm

2576
02:34:25,480 --> 02:34:27,440
Speaker 1: just waiting for them to call him for the Christmas

2577
02:34:27,520 --> 02:34:29,800
Speaker 1: Day float where he goes down the street in a

2578
02:34:29,879 --> 02:34:37,800
Speaker 1: whip and stuff. You know what I'm saying. Did you

2579
02:34:37,879 --> 02:34:42,000
Speaker 1: guys ever feel at any point that you weren't doing

2580
02:34:42,200 --> 02:34:44,000
Speaker 1: like you weren't a part of hip hop anymore? Because

2581
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:45,800
Speaker 1: this is one thing that I think about That's ill

2582
02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:49,800
Speaker 1: about Cypress Hill is that regardless of how many, like

2583
02:34:49,879 --> 02:34:53,200
Speaker 1: if you went into the rock realm or whatever, it

2584
02:34:53,360 --> 02:34:57,000
Speaker 1: felt like you guys always kept it hip hop, hip hop,

2585
02:34:57,440 --> 02:34:59,920
Speaker 1: no matter where you guys ventured off into whatever, fest

2586
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:02,199
Speaker 1: of those whatever brown and and it shows with also

2587
02:35:02,240 --> 02:35:04,840
Speaker 1: the people you collaborated with, like as you kept moving

2588
02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:09,000
Speaker 1: forward the Cypress I mean, the wood Tangs, the Fooji Joint,

2589
02:35:09,040 --> 02:35:11,000
Speaker 1: which mind you, the foodie joined in the whole of

2590
02:35:11,040 --> 02:35:13,520
Speaker 1: the realm. There's a whole other conversation because of the

2591
02:35:13,600 --> 02:35:16,560
Speaker 1: Haitian Cuban thing, which in Miami it was a big

2592
02:35:16,600 --> 02:35:20,120
Speaker 1: deal for us, you know. But it feels like you've

2593
02:35:20,200 --> 02:35:22,960
Speaker 1: always kept it hip hop, regardless of where you guys

2594
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:26,520
Speaker 1: ventured off into. That's our roots, you know. Um, I

2595
02:35:26,640 --> 02:35:29,680
Speaker 1: think others thought we were venturing away and trying to

2596
02:35:29,720 --> 02:35:32,400
Speaker 1: do something different, but we were just being you know,

2597
02:35:33,080 --> 02:35:36,520
Speaker 1: creative and experimental. You know, the the hybrid ship with

2598
02:35:36,680 --> 02:35:40,200
Speaker 1: the rock stuff that happened on Skull and Bones. I mean,

2599
02:35:40,360 --> 02:35:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, we had done a lot of a lot

2600
02:35:43,160 --> 02:35:45,200
Speaker 1: of rap songs, a lot of hip hop songs, you

2601
02:35:45,240 --> 02:35:46,959
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think we were wet at

2602
02:35:47,040 --> 02:35:50,880
Speaker 1: thirty Deep or some ship right album thing? Yeah, is

2603
02:35:50,920 --> 02:35:55,320
Speaker 1: that that's what you're talking to? It was like yeah,

2604
02:35:55,400 --> 02:35:57,760
Speaker 1: and it was because we were ahead of schedule and

2605
02:35:57,800 --> 02:36:00,400
Speaker 1: we had so many fucking hip hop songs and Send

2606
02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:03,160
Speaker 1: Dog was sort of into that that that scene. At

2607
02:36:03,240 --> 02:36:06,840
Speaker 1: that point, Mugs said, we're gonna do some different ship

2608
02:36:07,080 --> 02:36:11,360
Speaker 1: right here and at this sort of field. So, you know,

2609
02:36:12,280 --> 02:36:16,120
Speaker 1: like we always do, we threw caution to the fucking

2610
02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:21,000
Speaker 1: wind and just started started started experimenting with the ship.

2611
02:36:21,240 --> 02:36:23,600
Speaker 1: And you know, because we knew we had a base

2612
02:36:23,840 --> 02:36:27,240
Speaker 1: of fans that fucked with that, you know what I mean.

2613
02:36:27,360 --> 02:36:30,080
Speaker 1: They weren't necessarily hip hop fans, because all through our

2614
02:36:30,120 --> 02:36:32,400
Speaker 1: ship we'd go on tour and motherfucker's would come up,

2615
02:36:32,400 --> 02:36:35,880
Speaker 1: Hey I don't necessarily listen to hip hop, but I

2616
02:36:36,080 --> 02:36:39,480
Speaker 1: funk with you guys, right, And so you know, we

2617
02:36:39,560 --> 02:36:42,440
Speaker 1: knew we had fans out there like that. So you know,

2618
02:36:42,560 --> 02:36:45,840
Speaker 1: we said, well, let's take a chance Send Dog like

2619
02:36:46,120 --> 02:36:48,560
Speaker 1: this sort of direction. Fuck it, we're gonna go. And

2620
02:36:49,280 --> 02:36:52,320
Speaker 1: that sort of became the thing for a second, and

2621
02:36:52,440 --> 02:36:56,160
Speaker 1: we even you know, to to to double stack on that.

2622
02:36:56,480 --> 02:36:58,720
Speaker 1: You know, we brought a band out on on tour

2623
02:36:58,840 --> 02:37:01,080
Speaker 1: with us. You know, we created our band and you know,

2624
02:37:01,320 --> 02:37:04,000
Speaker 1: put them back there and played some of the songs

2625
02:37:04,080 --> 02:37:06,600
Speaker 1: that we created four Skull and Bones that were like,

2626
02:37:06,760 --> 02:37:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, the hybrid ship, and people accepted it there.

2627
02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:13,119
Speaker 1: I mean, people going nuts for that ship. I mean

2628
02:37:13,800 --> 02:37:17,240
Speaker 1: like the Beastie boys would flip between instruments and go

2629
02:37:17,360 --> 02:37:20,119
Speaker 1: into the ship and it's like ten years of rocking

2630
02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:22,520
Speaker 1: ship and rocking shows. It's like, Okay, we want some

2631
02:37:22,640 --> 02:37:24,920
Speaker 1: new ship to do live and they keep doing what

2632
02:37:24,959 --> 02:37:26,800
Speaker 1: we do, but then the show is gonna flip with

2633
02:37:26,920 --> 02:37:28,800
Speaker 1: the band, you know what I mean. So it kept

2634
02:37:28,879 --> 02:37:31,520
Speaker 1: it kept live fun, right, right. You guys all live

2635
02:37:31,560 --> 02:37:34,520
Speaker 1: in the same apartment at one point, well, you know,

2636
02:37:35,160 --> 02:37:40,040
Speaker 1: Muggs lived in these apartments songs on Kingsley in Hollywood,

2637
02:37:40,120 --> 02:37:43,920
Speaker 1: and most of the fucking uh, what's the fucking syndicate,

2638
02:37:44,040 --> 02:37:47,400
Speaker 1: we're up in this apartment building, right, and so that's

2639
02:37:47,440 --> 02:37:50,800
Speaker 1: where we would always be at Muggs spot because he

2640
02:37:50,920 --> 02:38:06,039
Speaker 1: wants this complex to with Grand like everybody, yeah, Grand.

2641
02:38:06,560 --> 02:38:08,800
Speaker 1: It was like eight hundred dollars for like a two bedroom.

2642
02:38:09,720 --> 02:38:13,720
Speaker 1: A lot of the guys that a lot of them

2643
02:38:13,879 --> 02:38:16,760
Speaker 1: are the guys that were a lot of guys that

2644
02:38:16,840 --> 02:38:20,320
Speaker 1: were in rhyme syndicate. They lived in this particular apartment which,

2645
02:38:20,360 --> 02:38:22,160
Speaker 1: ever last was a part of Rhyme Syndicate as well.

2646
02:38:22,320 --> 02:38:24,360
Speaker 1: He didn't necessarily live there. He lived in the valley

2647
02:38:24,400 --> 02:38:27,240
Speaker 1: at this point. But you know, guys like Mugs and

2648
02:38:27,320 --> 02:38:31,360
Speaker 1: Aladdin lived together in this building. Um from Low Profile,

2649
02:38:31,840 --> 02:38:34,560
Speaker 1: so we knew, we knew dub C before you know,

2650
02:38:36,920 --> 02:38:40,280
Speaker 1: No Aladdin, he was from a group called Low Profile

2651
02:38:40,360 --> 02:38:45,040
Speaker 1: with WCT. He'd be with w C and Coolioh and

2652
02:38:45,240 --> 02:38:49,640
Speaker 1: Aladdin and then department partment would be no furniture. There

2653
02:38:49,720 --> 02:38:52,960
Speaker 1: was like milk crates. The TV was on the milk crate. Crazy,

2654
02:38:54,080 --> 02:38:56,960
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy. All the motherfucker's that that

2655
02:38:57,120 --> 02:39:00,720
Speaker 1: he would bring records back to us to listen to.

2656
02:39:01,040 --> 02:39:04,240
Speaker 1: You know, like the old school crews. They some of

2657
02:39:04,280 --> 02:39:08,600
Speaker 1: them were living in this fucking department complex. Like yes,

2658
02:39:08,760 --> 02:39:12,160
Speaker 1: like casts like Prince Whipple Whipping fucking you know, guys

2659
02:39:12,240 --> 02:39:15,840
Speaker 1: like that and Um, they were all in the apartment

2660
02:39:15,920 --> 02:39:19,240
Speaker 1: building and you know, we were fucking just all like

2661
02:39:19,360 --> 02:39:21,720
Speaker 1: a little community right there. We're taking game from like

2662
02:39:21,959 --> 02:39:24,640
Speaker 1: the likes of Cast because that's ill that had someone

2663
02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:26,959
Speaker 1: like us. Well he was around you know what I'm saying.

2664
02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:28,840
Speaker 1: But like you know, it was just the folks we

2665
02:39:28,959 --> 02:39:31,280
Speaker 1: were around, like some of the guys that like, we

2666
02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:34,240
Speaker 1: was listening to their ship and just to see that

2667
02:39:34,360 --> 02:39:36,800
Speaker 1: around here, Just see that around you know, because a

2668
02:39:36,840 --> 02:39:38,680
Speaker 1: lot of those dudes from the East Coast at that time,

2669
02:39:38,720 --> 02:39:41,400
Speaker 1: the old school cats moved over here to get down

2670
02:39:41,480 --> 02:39:44,680
Speaker 1: with Iced Tea because he was creating the Rhyme Syndicate

2671
02:39:44,760 --> 02:39:46,600
Speaker 1: and he was embracing a lot of those old school

2672
02:39:46,680 --> 02:39:50,880
Speaker 1: cats and yeah, and uh, you know a lot of

2673
02:39:50,959 --> 02:39:54,800
Speaker 1: them embraced us. They embraced mugs first, then eventually myself

2674
02:39:54,879 --> 02:39:58,760
Speaker 1: and San Dog and you know, so to them, motherfucker's man.

2675
02:39:59,000 --> 02:40:02,080
Speaker 1: You know. Um, I was like they were the first

2676
02:40:02,240 --> 02:40:06,440
Speaker 1: real clique in Los Angeles, right, yeah, it's like eight

2677
02:40:06,959 --> 02:40:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, I like, yeah, Rhyme Syndicate. They were like

2678
02:40:10,400 --> 02:40:13,840
Speaker 1: the real first click See that's the homie. Yeah, yeah,

2679
02:40:14,160 --> 02:40:17,600
Speaker 1: that's the godfather. We have Whack on here. And Whack

2680
02:40:17,680 --> 02:40:21,280
Speaker 1: said that I t is originally from New Jersey. He

2681
02:40:21,440 --> 02:40:28,560
Speaker 1: might have been born there yet, but like you know'tah no, no, no, no,

2682
02:40:29,200 --> 02:40:31,120
Speaker 1: that's a fact. You know, he was born there, much

2683
02:40:31,160 --> 02:40:33,560
Speaker 1: like Bobo was born in fucking Hollis. You know what

2684
02:40:33,640 --> 02:40:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But you know, where you're raised, that's a

2685
02:40:37,400 --> 02:40:41,800
Speaker 1: different I'm raised in Miami. That's kind of where you're from,

2686
02:40:41,879 --> 02:40:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, that's where you're at now. A ninety to

2687
02:40:46,760 --> 02:40:50,720
Speaker 1: the Billboard Awards, I believe you guys one award and

2688
02:40:50,760 --> 02:40:56,320
Speaker 1: then you said legalize it? Yeah, year, is this right now?

2689
02:40:57,480 --> 02:41:07,600
Speaker 1: Thousands and two? Sir? Yes, sir, it's still not officially, yeah,

2690
02:41:09,080 --> 02:41:13,840
Speaker 1: but um, we made some fucking gains, you know what

2691
02:41:13,920 --> 02:41:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean. There's thirty seven states that have legal is

2692
02:41:18,600 --> 02:41:22,480
Speaker 1: it legal cannabis or medicinal cannabis, and that's a big

2693
02:41:22,600 --> 02:41:28,360
Speaker 1: step for use. Yes, decriminalizing on a lot of levels. Yeah,

2694
02:41:28,360 --> 02:41:31,360
Speaker 1: and it's decriminalized in a lot of these places. Um. Yeah,

2695
02:41:31,760 --> 02:41:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, we're still working towards federal and it's you know,

2696
02:41:34,840 --> 02:41:38,040
Speaker 1: maybe within the next five ten years, but it's going

2697
02:41:38,120 --> 02:41:41,720
Speaker 1: in that direction. And you know, if you ask us

2698
02:41:42,760 --> 02:41:46,160
Speaker 1: does that happen, Like if you ask us, does this happen,

2699
02:41:46,959 --> 02:41:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, we might say, yeah, we're working towards that.

2700
02:41:49,840 --> 02:41:52,040
Speaker 1: We you know, you don't know the fucking future, but

2701
02:41:52,120 --> 02:41:54,160
Speaker 1: we know what we're working towards, you know what I'm saying.

2702
02:41:54,240 --> 02:41:57,200
Speaker 1: We know the possibilities. We were looking at places like

2703
02:41:57,360 --> 02:42:00,920
Speaker 1: what you know how Amsterdam was going down and we're

2704
02:42:00,959 --> 02:42:03,920
Speaker 1: like that, well that's possible for us here. I'm sorry

2705
02:42:03,920 --> 02:42:05,120
Speaker 1: to cut you off for a second, but let me

2706
02:42:05,200 --> 02:42:07,240
Speaker 1: let you know how bad that we laws used to be.

2707
02:42:08,520 --> 02:42:11,440
Speaker 1: I one time I was sitting on my block pot

2708
02:42:11,520 --> 02:42:14,160
Speaker 1: last drivers by on the other side of the street.

2709
02:42:14,200 --> 02:42:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm smoking. He makes the U turn. As he's starting

2710
02:42:17,160 --> 02:42:20,400
Speaker 1: to make the U turn, I throw the bud. There's

2711
02:42:20,440 --> 02:42:22,520
Speaker 1: no way he can find it. And he arrested me

2712
02:42:24,320 --> 02:42:28,760
Speaker 1: for seeing me smoke. He never found the joint. I

2713
02:42:28,879 --> 02:42:31,080
Speaker 1: just saw. You just saw me and smelting. I had

2714
02:42:31,280 --> 02:42:34,280
Speaker 1: nothing on me. I went through the system in New

2715
02:42:34,400 --> 02:42:37,400
Speaker 1: York and if it meedily woking down there now, just smoking,

2716
02:42:37,440 --> 02:42:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't I know. They were supposed to

2717
02:42:47,280 --> 02:42:51,400
Speaker 1: do that here right in Florida? Do what drop like

2718
02:42:51,640 --> 02:42:55,000
Speaker 1: charges when they mean here? I don't know. I think

2719
02:42:55,560 --> 02:42:57,320
Speaker 1: they probably didn't yet. I don't think they're gonna do

2720
02:42:57,400 --> 02:43:00,360
Speaker 1: that yet. They need to go past medicinal for that

2721
02:43:00,480 --> 02:43:07,040
Speaker 1: to happen. You know, a nationally, the people can work

2722
02:43:07,200 --> 02:43:09,720
Speaker 1: toward that ship because really that's where it comes from.

2723
02:43:09,800 --> 02:43:12,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't come from sucking them because they got votes

2724
02:43:12,959 --> 02:43:16,480
Speaker 1: to fucking worry about and like, if someone's too progressive,

2725
02:43:16,520 --> 02:43:20,640
Speaker 1: you might not get those fucking votes that you traditionally need, right,

2726
02:43:20,840 --> 02:43:23,879
Speaker 1: So it's it's up to the people to go make

2727
02:43:24,040 --> 02:43:27,640
Speaker 1: this a thing. Like like always, the real change happens

2728
02:43:27,680 --> 02:43:29,520
Speaker 1: from the people. That's a good thing about I think,

2729
02:43:29,959 --> 02:43:31,360
Speaker 1: And I don't even smoke, but I think that's a

2730
02:43:31,400 --> 02:43:33,920
Speaker 1: good thing about cannabis is that I think it crosses

2731
02:43:34,000 --> 02:43:37,440
Speaker 1: all those party lines. Yeah, and it can change. The

2732
02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:39,320
Speaker 1: laws could change because of that. You know what I'm saying.

2733
02:43:39,400 --> 02:43:44,880
Speaker 1: Easily Green Thumb all of your things. It's me and

2734
02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:46,879
Speaker 1: you got your own strand too. Are you're thinking about

2735
02:43:46,920 --> 02:43:49,600
Speaker 1: doing something like that. I've done things here and there,

2736
02:43:49,680 --> 02:43:53,000
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, But I have a

2737
02:43:53,120 --> 02:43:56,160
Speaker 1: brand whatever, But it's not a I feel like you

2738
02:43:56,360 --> 02:43:59,520
Speaker 1: come out with your own mushrooms. Yeah, I'm thinking the

2739
02:43:59,600 --> 02:44:03,640
Speaker 1: same thing. Shrooms aren't illegal? Ares I legal? And Colorado

2740
02:44:03,680 --> 02:44:06,560
Speaker 1: for show they are? Yeah, so you need to come

2741
02:44:06,600 --> 02:44:08,879
Speaker 1: out with your own the last time. I haven't done

2742
02:44:08,879 --> 02:44:18,320
Speaker 1: any central Yeah. Yeah, No, he has the B has

2743
02:44:18,360 --> 02:44:25,040
Speaker 1: the Doctor Greenham stores and and I have the thing

2744
02:44:25,120 --> 02:44:29,240
Speaker 1: called hill House. Yeah, that's about it. As as far

2745
02:44:29,320 --> 02:44:33,640
Speaker 1: as flower, what is that? Yeah, pretty much yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

2746
02:44:33,640 --> 02:44:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like the he had the Dr

2747
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:39,800
Speaker 1: Greenham thing is like a how many stories do you have? Six? Um,

2748
02:44:40,120 --> 02:44:43,840
Speaker 1: you know the actual Dr Green Thumb stores, dispensaries, dispenses

2749
02:44:43,879 --> 02:44:48,119
Speaker 1: in California. You know. The thing is, we definitely want

2750
02:44:48,160 --> 02:44:50,640
Speaker 1: to do that with Cypress Hill. You know, it's always

2751
02:44:50,680 --> 02:44:54,960
Speaker 1: just very picky about what we do because you know,

2752
02:44:55,400 --> 02:44:57,440
Speaker 1: we don't ever want to rush to do it wrong

2753
02:44:57,520 --> 02:44:59,560
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So you know, there's been an

2754
02:44:59,560 --> 02:45:01,440
Speaker 1: opportunit it is for us to do ship, but like

2755
02:45:01,920 --> 02:45:04,400
Speaker 1: for us, it's always like if it's going to be

2756
02:45:04,520 --> 02:45:07,959
Speaker 1: the right thing, not the right look, the right thing.

2757
02:45:08,800 --> 02:45:11,160
Speaker 1: And so you know, one of the one of the

2758
02:45:11,240 --> 02:45:15,760
Speaker 1: goals is to eventually open up some stores under Cypress

2759
02:45:15,879 --> 02:45:18,520
Speaker 1: Hill as well as you know, my Green Thumb stores

2760
02:45:18,600 --> 02:45:21,640
Speaker 1: that exist and stuff like that, because realistically, Cypress Hill

2761
02:45:21,720 --> 02:45:23,840
Speaker 1: is the root of all of it. If there's no

2762
02:45:23,959 --> 02:45:27,720
Speaker 1: Cypress Hill, there's no Green Thumb, you know what I mean. So, um,

2763
02:45:28,240 --> 02:45:31,120
Speaker 1: we it's it's something we definitely want to do in

2764
02:45:31,200 --> 02:45:37,039
Speaker 1: the future. And ship, so you know that's on the agenda. Well,

2765
02:45:37,120 --> 02:45:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, Bern is my boy. You know, we've done

2766
02:45:39,560 --> 02:45:42,720
Speaker 1: albums together, we've done four projects together, so we we

2767
02:45:43,040 --> 02:45:45,400
Speaker 1: sort of push each other's brand and stuff like that.

2768
02:45:46,160 --> 02:45:49,119
Speaker 1: He's got cookies, I got green thumb and and uh,

2769
02:45:49,800 --> 02:45:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, we celebrate each other, you know what I mean.

2770
02:45:51,840 --> 02:45:54,959
Speaker 1: And we do this music together for the cannabis culture

2771
02:45:55,000 --> 02:45:58,519
Speaker 1: and for music, you know what I'm saying. But UMS

2772
02:45:58,640 --> 02:46:01,640
Speaker 1: has been it's being great working with the man. The

2773
02:46:01,720 --> 02:46:04,960
Speaker 1: sessions are like, you know, just a great vibe, you

2774
02:46:05,000 --> 02:46:06,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And smokey as fuck. I mean,

2775
02:46:06,959 --> 02:46:11,119
Speaker 1: we smoked that studio the funk out like he burns

2776
02:46:11,200 --> 02:46:12,680
Speaker 1: the way I burned, you know what I mean. Like

2777
02:46:12,800 --> 02:46:15,160
Speaker 1: we both smoke up. We'll match each other for joint

2778
02:46:15,240 --> 02:46:18,480
Speaker 1: for joint. But it's about the work. It's not about

2779
02:46:18,520 --> 02:46:20,280
Speaker 1: to smoke. That ship is you know, just a part

2780
02:46:20,320 --> 02:46:22,160
Speaker 1: of the vibe. It's about to work. Like we get

2781
02:46:22,200 --> 02:46:24,160
Speaker 1: in there and we do we do work. And and

2782
02:46:24,560 --> 02:46:28,560
Speaker 1: uh we got another one, Um in the Chamber that

2783
02:46:28,920 --> 02:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Scott Storch produced that we're about to you know, pop

2784
02:46:32,600 --> 02:46:39,360
Speaker 1: off later on UM and fully produced by Scott Storch.

2785
02:46:39,440 --> 02:46:41,280
Speaker 1: In the past, you know, we used other producers, but

2786
02:46:41,400 --> 02:46:43,000
Speaker 1: for this one, you know, I sort of wanted to

2787
02:46:43,080 --> 02:46:45,560
Speaker 1: do what we do with with Cypress and you know,

2788
02:46:45,720 --> 02:46:49,360
Speaker 1: lock in with one producer and make a sound and

2789
02:46:49,640 --> 02:46:53,600
Speaker 1: Scott definitely did that. So you know when people hear it,

2790
02:46:53,720 --> 02:46:56,680
Speaker 1: they'll you know, they'll feel it. So you know Burn

2791
02:46:56,800 --> 02:46:58,920
Speaker 1: and I you know, that's my boy. So salute the

2792
02:46:58,959 --> 02:47:01,880
Speaker 1: big birth pig up Berna. So sad. What's what's what's

2793
02:47:01,879 --> 02:47:03,240
Speaker 1: your what's your face? What's your part of the game?

2794
02:47:03,280 --> 02:47:06,040
Speaker 1: And you can't live without like the part of what

2795
02:47:06,440 --> 02:47:08,760
Speaker 1: part of the game that you can't live without? Like

2796
02:47:09,959 --> 02:47:11,480
Speaker 1: like even when you left the group, Like, what was

2797
02:47:11,560 --> 02:47:15,080
Speaker 1: the part that you was missing? The stage? Man, I

2798
02:47:15,280 --> 02:47:17,920
Speaker 1: was gonna say that for some reason. And it all

2799
02:47:18,000 --> 02:47:21,520
Speaker 1: came down to one day I was I saw them

2800
02:47:21,560 --> 02:47:25,720
Speaker 1: perform on a MTV or something. They were like in Canada,

2801
02:47:26,920 --> 02:47:29,720
Speaker 1: and uh, I was watching the whole ship at home

2802
02:47:31,400 --> 02:47:34,000
Speaker 1: and from like when when I saw that, I could

2803
02:47:34,000 --> 02:47:40,160
Speaker 1: almost smell the concert. Yeah, that actually went down. Yeah,

2804
02:47:40,440 --> 02:47:42,800
Speaker 1: And that's when I knew, like I had to have

2805
02:47:42,879 --> 02:47:44,160
Speaker 1: it back in my life, you know what I mean,

2806
02:47:44,200 --> 02:47:46,000
Speaker 1: Like that had to be part of me. And I

2807
02:47:46,040 --> 02:47:48,040
Speaker 1: always knew that. I kind of felt like I always

2808
02:47:48,080 --> 02:47:51,760
Speaker 1: knew that, um, but there's just that one time when

2809
02:47:51,800 --> 02:47:54,080
Speaker 1: it slaps you in the face that you should be

2810
02:47:54,160 --> 02:47:56,080
Speaker 1: out there. And then I think, like a couple of

2811
02:47:56,160 --> 02:47:59,120
Speaker 1: days later, Mugs called me up and I'm like, hey, Mugs,

2812
02:47:59,160 --> 02:48:01,720
Speaker 1: what's up. Man? He's like where you hat like he was,

2813
02:48:01,920 --> 02:48:05,720
Speaker 1: he said, I'm on tour where you should be? And

2814
02:48:05,840 --> 02:48:08,760
Speaker 1: that was like another thing, like okay, And then we

2815
02:48:08,879 --> 02:48:10,760
Speaker 1: went we went around to fixing that whole thing, and

2816
02:48:11,280 --> 02:48:13,240
Speaker 1: and I got back into it and everything, and you know,

2817
02:48:14,240 --> 02:48:16,560
Speaker 1: it was it was on from there. But I mean,

2818
02:48:16,840 --> 02:48:19,360
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta go through that bullshit to figure out

2819
02:48:19,400 --> 02:48:22,800
Speaker 1: what you had to, you know, together, it all back

2820
02:48:23,320 --> 02:48:25,280
Speaker 1: motherfucking years, you know what I mean, She's gonna go

2821
02:48:25,320 --> 02:48:28,400
Speaker 1: through you know, it's like a real organic family going

2822
02:48:28,480 --> 02:48:31,240
Speaker 1: through life, you know what I mean. And right here,

2823
02:48:31,280 --> 02:48:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, and then being in front of those type

2824
02:48:35,240 --> 02:48:36,960
Speaker 1: of crowds that we were in front of, I mean,

2825
02:48:37,080 --> 02:48:40,040
Speaker 1: that's fucking addicting because it's a lot of control that

2826
02:48:40,160 --> 02:48:43,160
Speaker 1: you're fucking fingertips right there. You're making the crowd move

2827
02:48:43,320 --> 02:48:47,520
Speaker 1: through your music and you see the impact happening. That's

2828
02:48:47,600 --> 02:48:50,320
Speaker 1: hard to let go of. That's why rappers never retire,

2829
02:48:50,440 --> 02:48:52,879
Speaker 1: especially they got when they got a good run popping off.

2830
02:48:53,400 --> 02:48:54,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You don't want to let

2831
02:48:54,959 --> 02:48:57,840
Speaker 1: that go because you know the control you have there

2832
02:48:58,000 --> 02:49:02,040
Speaker 1: and it's great seeing it. There's no high or no

2833
02:49:02,320 --> 02:49:11,480
Speaker 1: feeling like that crowd. Yeah, we do this thing right

2834
02:49:12,400 --> 02:49:16,400
Speaker 1: um at the end of our show where we we

2835
02:49:16,680 --> 02:49:20,840
Speaker 1: we pay um tribute and celebration to our homies, you

2836
02:49:20,920 --> 02:49:25,240
Speaker 1: know House of Pain with doing jump Around at the end,

2837
02:49:26,120 --> 02:49:28,680
Speaker 1: it's show like, it's not our song, but fuck it,

2838
02:49:28,959 --> 02:49:31,280
Speaker 1: you know it's in the family. It's soul Assassins. He

2839
02:49:31,360 --> 02:49:36,280
Speaker 1: produced the record, right jump Around, Yeah, and you know,

2840
02:49:36,560 --> 02:49:38,760
Speaker 1: so it's all in the family. So we you know,

2841
02:49:39,040 --> 02:49:41,240
Speaker 1: what we do at the end is we save that

2842
02:49:41,440 --> 02:49:44,840
Speaker 1: for the fucking very end and we make everybody get

2843
02:49:44,959 --> 02:49:47,920
Speaker 1: down to the ground like in a squat position, right,

2844
02:49:48,600 --> 02:49:50,560
Speaker 1: and then we pop it off. The horns come on

2845
02:49:51,400 --> 02:49:55,400
Speaker 1: and then it goes and you see everybody explode, and

2846
02:49:55,560 --> 02:50:00,120
Speaker 1: that's you know, there's no feeling then like I and

2847
02:50:00,320 --> 02:50:03,039
Speaker 1: I felt what House of Pain felt when that fucking

2848
02:50:03,120 --> 02:50:06,920
Speaker 1: song popped off. Everywhere you hear it at every sporting event.

2849
02:50:07,920 --> 02:50:10,880
Speaker 1: It's the pop off at any given time. You could

2850
02:50:10,959 --> 02:50:14,520
Speaker 1: cover it at the end of your show, and motherfucker'sould

2851
02:50:14,520 --> 02:50:16,720
Speaker 1: that be the highlight of the show because guess what

2852
02:50:16,879 --> 02:50:19,800
Speaker 1: that's my man right here and never last created one

2853
02:50:19,879 --> 02:50:22,120
Speaker 1: of the greatest pop off songs of all time. I

2854
02:50:22,280 --> 02:50:26,480
Speaker 1: put that ship against anything because I've seen the results

2855
02:50:26,520 --> 02:50:28,400
Speaker 1: of it and they could co sign on this. I've

2856
02:50:28,440 --> 02:50:31,760
Speaker 1: done this ship on my solo ship with Profits of

2857
02:50:31,879 --> 02:50:34,560
Speaker 1: Rage and with Cyprus. There is no bigger song to

2858
02:50:34,760 --> 02:50:38,000
Speaker 1: pop off on, right. So we get everybody and think

2859
02:50:38,040 --> 02:50:41,800
Speaker 1: about you're seeing seventy thousand to a hundred thousand to

2860
02:50:41,879 --> 02:50:45,760
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty thousand people all squatted down, and

2861
02:50:45,800 --> 02:50:52,080
Speaker 1: when that ship pops off, boom, explosion, overpowering. You know

2862
02:50:52,120 --> 02:50:54,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's it's the craziest feeling. There's no

2863
02:50:55,000 --> 02:50:58,439
Speaker 1: high that you could get better than that. It's crazy.

2864
02:50:59,080 --> 02:51:06,960
Speaker 1: Salute to you while because you hold on real quick, though,

2865
02:51:07,040 --> 02:51:08,920
Speaker 1: I just want to say, like and not real quick,

2866
02:51:09,360 --> 02:51:14,800
Speaker 1: real long. Actually, um, the production, the sound that that

2867
02:51:14,959 --> 02:51:18,800
Speaker 1: you brought Mugs to, to Cypress and to everything you

2868
02:51:18,959 --> 02:51:23,920
Speaker 1: touched soul assassins abroad, it changed so much in the game.

2869
02:51:24,000 --> 02:51:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's acknowledged as much as it should be.

2870
02:51:26,560 --> 02:51:28,480
Speaker 1: And I'm saying you're you're one of the top tier

2871
02:51:28,760 --> 02:51:32,080
Speaker 1: hip hop producers of all time, and I think it's

2872
02:51:32,120 --> 02:51:34,240
Speaker 1: it's amazing what you guys have done. Man, what you've done.

2873
02:51:34,680 --> 02:52:01,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Right is ready for it. Let me cheers. Um.

2874
02:52:01,600 --> 02:52:05,840
Speaker 1: If you could say something to your younger self, what

2875
02:52:06,000 --> 02:52:11,800
Speaker 1: would it be, ship that's a good one man fun Uh,

2876
02:52:13,800 --> 02:52:18,600
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, believe in yourself and believe

2877
02:52:18,640 --> 02:52:29,480
Speaker 1: in your friends. That's fine. I said, that's fine. Wow. Um,

2878
02:52:30,879 --> 02:52:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, don't be afraid of dream you know, the

2879
02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:39,039
Speaker 1: dreams can come true. I remember being a little kid

2880
02:52:39,160 --> 02:52:43,320
Speaker 1: and and making, uh like these these toys I had,

2881
02:52:43,360 --> 02:52:45,920
Speaker 1: and these musicians and I put on my army man

2882
02:52:46,000 --> 02:52:48,800
Speaker 1: out like theyre with the audience, and I disimagine like

2883
02:52:48,920 --> 02:52:53,400
Speaker 1: a big, a big, you know, field of people, and

2884
02:52:53,640 --> 02:52:59,000
Speaker 1: when what stock happened? I said, that was? That was it? So,

2885
02:52:59,400 --> 02:53:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, believe yourself, believe in your dreams. I was.

2886
02:53:04,760 --> 02:53:07,280
Speaker 1: I would have thought had been it would have should

2887
02:53:07,280 --> 02:53:11,720
Speaker 1: have been. Don't drink that much room tea. Don't drink

2888
02:53:13,240 --> 02:53:15,640
Speaker 1: to your younger self. You got to meet your younger self. Well,

2889
02:53:15,680 --> 02:53:19,040
Speaker 1: just just be patient, man, and just be patient, you

2890
02:53:19,120 --> 02:53:21,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And and just stay focused and

2891
02:53:21,840 --> 02:53:24,760
Speaker 1: stay calm, and don't get emotionally attached to any of

2892
02:53:24,840 --> 02:53:29,480
Speaker 1: this ship, and just stay calm and stay patient. Everything

2893
02:53:29,520 --> 02:53:36,200
Speaker 1: will figure it yourself out. That's why I want you.

2894
02:53:38,600 --> 02:53:41,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would say to myself, what what sin

2895
02:53:41,440 --> 02:53:44,760
Speaker 1: Dog's mom said to me, Let's have faith, don't hope,

2896
02:53:45,120 --> 02:53:49,400
Speaker 1: have faith and what we're doing, and in yourself and

2897
02:53:50,000 --> 02:53:54,119
Speaker 1: work towards it. So you know, it would have been redundant.

2898
02:53:54,240 --> 02:53:56,480
Speaker 1: But that's what you know his mother told me. I

2899
02:53:56,520 --> 02:54:05,640
Speaker 1: would have told myself that ship, that's weird, space watch

2900
02:54:05,680 --> 02:54:13,960
Speaker 1: that now coded the beat Nuts record the um But

2901
02:54:14,480 --> 02:54:16,960
Speaker 1: I noticed a cliche type type of question, but did

2902
02:54:17,000 --> 02:54:18,640
Speaker 1: you ever take that hip hop? Make it this far?

2903
02:54:20,080 --> 02:54:23,280
Speaker 1: I always need for sure, just the moment I heard it,

2904
02:54:24,280 --> 02:54:25,920
Speaker 1: this was the next wave of rock and roll? What

2905
02:54:26,040 --> 02:54:32,400
Speaker 1: are we gonna call it? And because like them, like

2906
02:54:32,480 --> 02:54:34,640
Speaker 1: I was a scared I wasn't the punk rock. I

2907
02:54:34,720 --> 02:54:38,440
Speaker 1: was into counterculture music, like the scene you had a mohawk. No,

2908
02:54:38,600 --> 02:54:42,360
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't have a mohawk. And so when hip

2909
02:54:42,360 --> 02:54:45,680
Speaker 1: hop came on, that actually spoke more to me. And

2910
02:54:45,760 --> 02:54:49,200
Speaker 1: it was counterculture as well, so that I felt right

2911
02:54:49,240 --> 02:54:50,640
Speaker 1: in line with that. And you said you knew it

2912
02:54:50,680 --> 02:54:52,680
Speaker 1: was going to be big from the beginning. Yeah, from

2913
02:54:52,720 --> 02:54:56,000
Speaker 1: the beginning, from the time I heard Blondie doing Raptured

2914
02:54:56,080 --> 02:54:58,400
Speaker 1: and all that ship, I knew this was the next

2915
02:54:58,480 --> 02:55:00,720
Speaker 1: big thing I was going to take over. There was music,

2916
02:55:00,840 --> 02:55:02,360
Speaker 1: but there was no hip hop. And then all of

2917
02:55:02,400 --> 02:55:04,000
Speaker 1: a sudden there was a music called hip hop. And

2918
02:55:04,000 --> 02:55:06,000
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, ship, what's that? And you're watching the

2919
02:55:06,040 --> 02:55:09,120
Speaker 1: ship and you're like eight eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen fifteen,

2920
02:55:09,160 --> 02:55:12,280
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, that's that ship right there right. Well,

2921
02:55:12,480 --> 02:55:14,360
Speaker 1: not everybody like this is the thing. We all didn't

2922
02:55:14,400 --> 02:55:16,960
Speaker 1: know it was hip hop. We were listening to rap music.

2923
02:55:17,240 --> 02:55:19,360
Speaker 1: Were just yeah. And there was a point where I realized,

2924
02:55:19,400 --> 02:55:21,480
Speaker 1: holy sh it, this is hip hop culture. Like it

2925
02:55:21,600 --> 02:55:24,520
Speaker 1: was dawned on me that someone another person, Yo, this

2926
02:55:24,680 --> 02:55:28,000
Speaker 1: is what it is. You already breakdancing, You're already writing graffiti.

2927
02:55:28,920 --> 02:55:31,640
Speaker 1: Do you want? There's a culture? And that ship is

2928
02:55:31,680 --> 02:55:33,960
Speaker 1: what blew my mind about it. Yeah, I didn't know

2929
02:55:34,080 --> 02:55:35,640
Speaker 1: where it was going to go. I just wanted to

2930
02:55:35,720 --> 02:55:38,800
Speaker 1: be part of it. You know that. That's the passion

2931
02:55:39,040 --> 02:55:41,360
Speaker 1: was there from the minute I heard it, because I mean,

2932
02:55:41,480 --> 02:55:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, I was listening to a lot of different

2933
02:55:43,400 --> 02:55:46,360
Speaker 1: ships before I knew hip what hip hop was, you

2934
02:55:46,400 --> 02:55:49,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And the minute I heard run DMC,

2935
02:55:50,200 --> 02:55:54,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh that ship right there? Um, and

2936
02:55:54,879 --> 02:55:58,440
Speaker 1: then rock Box from run DMC most most definitely that

2937
02:55:58,520 --> 02:56:00,440
Speaker 1: ship kind of flipped me right there. I was like,

2938
02:56:02,480 --> 02:56:07,960
Speaker 1: right now, let's talk about Rap Superstar. Yes, you were

2939
02:56:14,120 --> 02:56:18,920
Speaker 1: you remember the day he recorded that ship? Absolutely knockout man,

2940
02:56:19,000 --> 02:56:23,240
Speaker 1: I saw the video. But what if you're just saying something, UM,

2941
02:56:23,760 --> 02:56:25,760
Speaker 1: very proud to be about it that record. I did

2942
02:56:25,879 --> 02:56:34,360
Speaker 1: definitely need my plaque. Come on, yeah, UM listen to

2943
02:56:34,480 --> 02:56:38,800
Speaker 1: that today, you know, UM, driving here, going through the

2944
02:56:38,959 --> 02:56:43,879
Speaker 1: phoography after um uh watching the documentary, just just soaking

2945
02:56:43,959 --> 02:56:46,480
Speaker 1: up all the game. And then I'm listening to the

2946
02:56:46,600 --> 02:56:49,800
Speaker 1: lyrics of Rap Superstar and I'm like, whoa, this is

2947
02:56:49,840 --> 02:56:52,720
Speaker 1: is relevant? Right? Yeah? Like this ship is not an

2948
02:56:53,120 --> 02:56:55,560
Speaker 1: old record? Like how the funk did you all think

2949
02:56:55,600 --> 02:56:58,720
Speaker 1: of that ship? Like you know it's living in right,

2950
02:56:58,840 --> 02:57:03,439
Speaker 1: you know, and what people's expectations and perceptions are outside

2951
02:57:03,480 --> 02:57:05,959
Speaker 1: of it, right, you know, they think it's all gravy

2952
02:57:06,040 --> 02:57:08,240
Speaker 1: once you get a deal and and you know you're

2953
02:57:08,640 --> 02:57:10,440
Speaker 1: rich and famous off the top, but they don't know

2954
02:57:10,520 --> 02:57:12,800
Speaker 1: the road to that if you should be lucky enough

2955
02:57:12,879 --> 02:57:15,840
Speaker 1: to get it. And that was like you know, us

2956
02:57:16,040 --> 02:57:19,920
Speaker 1: being in the game and and absorbing all the positive

2957
02:57:19,959 --> 02:57:23,279
Speaker 1: and negative energy from it and us just being like, boom,

2958
02:57:23,360 --> 02:57:25,400
Speaker 1: this is what it is, you know what I'm saying,

2959
02:57:25,440 --> 02:57:28,119
Speaker 1: And to be this, these are the sacrifices that we make,

2960
02:57:28,360 --> 02:57:30,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it was a very

2961
02:57:30,879 --> 02:57:34,440
Speaker 1: real fucking song. You know. I think, um and and

2962
02:57:34,720 --> 02:57:37,240
Speaker 1: and salute to my man mugs on this because like

2963
02:57:38,480 --> 02:57:40,360
Speaker 1: the way that I look at that that song is

2964
02:57:40,480 --> 02:57:43,480
Speaker 1: like it's it's like our cash mirror. Like if you're

2965
02:57:43,720 --> 02:57:47,680
Speaker 1: if you're a rock fan, led Zeppelin's cash Mirror is

2966
02:57:47,720 --> 02:57:50,640
Speaker 1: a big fucking song for led Zeppelin. It's like, you know,

2967
02:57:50,840 --> 02:57:55,360
Speaker 1: it's just so fucking different. Um. And that was our

2968
02:57:55,440 --> 02:57:58,720
Speaker 1: cash Mirror as Cypress Hill Rock Superstar, because it was

2969
02:57:59,400 --> 02:58:01,840
Speaker 1: very much well we were living at the time, and

2970
02:58:02,040 --> 02:58:05,360
Speaker 1: just the fucking musical backdrop that he gave me to

2971
02:58:05,480 --> 02:58:08,440
Speaker 1: tell that story because I had that idea in my

2972
02:58:08,560 --> 02:58:11,119
Speaker 1: head for like a number of years, you know, because

2973
02:58:11,160 --> 02:58:13,880
Speaker 1: we had been soaking up what this game really is

2974
02:58:14,040 --> 02:58:17,080
Speaker 1: and all all the ship and you know, people's false

2975
02:58:17,160 --> 02:58:19,800
Speaker 1: perception of what it is to be in this in

2976
02:58:19,879 --> 02:58:23,320
Speaker 1: this business or rap star or rock star or whatever.

2977
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:26,960
Speaker 1: And I held that idea for a long time until

2978
02:58:27,040 --> 02:58:30,720
Speaker 1: he came up with that beat that became the fucking song,

2979
02:58:30,879 --> 02:58:33,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is it right here? And uh,

2980
02:58:34,440 --> 02:58:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, I did not know it would resonate the

2981
02:58:37,240 --> 02:58:38,720
Speaker 1: way that it did. I thought it would just be

2982
02:58:38,800 --> 02:58:41,400
Speaker 1: a great album song. It was a great idea, but

2983
02:58:41,440 --> 02:58:43,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know it would be one of our like

2984
02:58:43,200 --> 02:58:47,680
Speaker 1: so called comeback joints, you know what I'm saying. So um, yeah,

2985
02:58:47,800 --> 02:58:50,200
Speaker 1: that that that song was was was huge. But I

2986
02:58:50,320 --> 02:58:53,760
Speaker 1: was telling people what the game is for us. It's

2987
02:58:53,760 --> 02:58:55,840
Speaker 1: still it's still the same game. Like I said, I

2988
02:58:55,879 --> 02:58:57,520
Speaker 1: was listening to it today and listen to it the

2989
02:58:57,560 --> 02:58:58,880
Speaker 1: other day. I was like, damn and she was so

2990
02:58:59,080 --> 02:59:04,320
Speaker 1: relevant still now, like like, um, it is amazing. Um

2991
02:59:04,800 --> 02:59:07,320
Speaker 1: and Eminem part of it is. Yeah. Eminem was on it.

2992
02:59:08,120 --> 02:59:11,760
Speaker 1: Um ever last was on one. Chino Moreno from the

2993
02:59:11,879 --> 02:59:15,880
Speaker 1: Deaf Tones was on the rock version. Uh yeah, you know,

2994
02:59:16,040 --> 02:59:19,279
Speaker 1: y'all blessed us, man, And you know, it was always

2995
02:59:19,480 --> 02:59:22,160
Speaker 1: like these are our brothers for you know, because y'all

2996
02:59:22,160 --> 02:59:25,760
Speaker 1: saw what the ship was and um, you know that

2997
02:59:25,879 --> 02:59:28,000
Speaker 1: meant everything to us to have you wanted to have

2998
02:59:28,400 --> 02:59:31,000
Speaker 1: m on it, you know, and because everybody wanted him

2999
02:59:31,320 --> 02:59:40,240
Speaker 1: at that point, right with eminem Yeah two um, and

3000
02:59:40,440 --> 02:59:42,560
Speaker 1: you know to have ever last two is our family

3001
02:59:42,760 --> 02:59:46,240
Speaker 1: and and Chino who you know the Deaf Tones. You know,

3002
02:59:46,360 --> 02:59:49,120
Speaker 1: we all loved the Deaf Tones and ship like that.

3003
02:59:49,280 --> 02:59:52,200
Speaker 1: So to have to have those four guys with us,

3004
02:59:52,800 --> 02:59:55,760
Speaker 1: you know that that was everything. So salute to them.

3005
02:59:56,560 --> 02:59:59,240
Speaker 1: It's because they gave their background on what the game

3006
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:03,080
Speaker 1: soaked up from them, and that was that was that

3007
03:00:03,200 --> 03:00:05,760
Speaker 1: was tight because that's what that song was about. Well,

3008
03:00:05,840 --> 03:00:09,000
Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear you say comeback record because you

3009
03:00:09,080 --> 03:00:12,160
Speaker 1: know us, as fans of us, as you know, people

3010
03:00:12,240 --> 03:00:15,880
Speaker 1: that observers, we never felt like you guys ever left anywhere,

3011
03:00:15,920 --> 03:00:18,600
Speaker 1: So why would you Yeah, so why would you say

3012
03:00:18,680 --> 03:00:22,280
Speaker 1: come back? Because the mentality is, you know, when you're

3013
03:00:22,320 --> 03:00:25,119
Speaker 1: on a major label, that's what it is, the major

3014
03:00:25,200 --> 03:00:29,080
Speaker 1: label mental, the big Yes, they're always weighing your last

3015
03:00:29,120 --> 03:00:31,880
Speaker 1: ship against the ship. You do it right now, and

3016
03:00:33,440 --> 03:00:35,760
Speaker 1: you can do it. Let's go. And at the time,

3017
03:00:35,959 --> 03:00:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, like it had been a minute since we

3018
03:00:37,959 --> 03:00:40,440
Speaker 1: had dropped one, and you know, this is our fifth

3019
03:00:40,520 --> 03:00:43,560
Speaker 1: outing and our fourth outing was okay, but it wasn't

3020
03:00:43,680 --> 03:00:46,400
Speaker 1: like one, two and three, you know, so they thought

3021
03:00:46,480 --> 03:00:49,320
Speaker 1: we were fucking done kind of, but they still you know,

3022
03:00:49,440 --> 03:00:52,520
Speaker 1: like Donnie Einer, salute to my man. He was the

3023
03:00:52,640 --> 03:00:55,160
Speaker 1: chief up there. He had faith in us, and he

3024
03:00:55,240 --> 03:00:58,040
Speaker 1: had faith in mugs, and you know, every now and

3025
03:00:58,120 --> 03:01:01,360
Speaker 1: then he would suggest ship that was helpful and he

3026
03:01:01,400 --> 03:01:04,640
Speaker 1: would push our line, and he had that belief in

3027
03:01:04,800 --> 03:01:08,000
Speaker 1: us in this particular instant because you know, we did

3028
03:01:08,200 --> 03:01:10,200
Speaker 1: all this dope hip hop ship and then we did

3029
03:01:10,280 --> 03:01:14,160
Speaker 1: this hybrid ship, which was cool because it we were

3030
03:01:14,200 --> 03:01:16,280
Speaker 1: doing something no one else was doing at the time,

3031
03:01:16,640 --> 03:01:20,200
Speaker 1: right and he saw it, and you know, some of

3032
03:01:20,280 --> 03:01:25,320
Speaker 1: his suggestions helped push that particular album and showing like

3033
03:01:25,959 --> 03:01:28,879
Speaker 1: that we never left, you know what I'm saying, because

3034
03:01:29,320 --> 03:01:32,040
Speaker 1: our mentality was we never left. What the funk are

3035
03:01:32,120 --> 03:01:35,000
Speaker 1: y'all talking about it? But you know, we were always

3036
03:01:35,040 --> 03:01:37,480
Speaker 1: the underdogs, you know what I'm saying. Like they you know,

3037
03:01:37,640 --> 03:01:40,720
Speaker 1: like when Motherfucker's talked about us, it was like, well,

3038
03:01:40,760 --> 03:01:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you know, we were representing cannabis

3039
03:01:43,879 --> 03:01:47,520
Speaker 1: and it was just slightly different and uh, you know,

3040
03:01:47,959 --> 03:01:50,920
Speaker 1: we were out to prove everybody fucking wrong. Make some

3041
03:01:51,000 --> 03:01:55,360
Speaker 1: noise for that guy. I've never felt out of love

3042
03:01:55,400 --> 03:01:58,000
Speaker 1: with the game. Oh yeah, you know, there was a

3043
03:01:58,080 --> 03:02:00,200
Speaker 1: few years where I got just started hand of them

3044
03:02:00,240 --> 03:02:03,800
Speaker 1: my other businesses, you know what I mean, whatever they

3045
03:02:03,840 --> 03:02:05,680
Speaker 1: are just doing that ship and having like a passion

3046
03:02:05,720 --> 03:02:07,960
Speaker 1: for other things at the time. But the game was

3047
03:02:08,080 --> 03:02:10,800
Speaker 1: right there. But like the levels of the energy that

3048
03:02:10,840 --> 03:02:12,080
Speaker 1: I want to give to the game, you know what

3049
03:02:12,080 --> 03:02:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, versus what I'm gonna get out like those

3050
03:02:14,959 --> 03:02:17,880
Speaker 1: have switched up throughout the years. It's it's the business

3051
03:02:18,000 --> 03:02:20,920
Speaker 1: that it's the business side, you know what I mean.

3052
03:02:20,959 --> 03:02:23,080
Speaker 1: For the creativity side and kicking with the homies and

3053
03:02:23,120 --> 03:02:24,720
Speaker 1: making music and having a good time that she was

3054
03:02:24,720 --> 03:02:26,600
Speaker 1: always fun, but that other ship after a while, you know,

3055
03:02:26,720 --> 03:02:28,480
Speaker 1: sometimes you just want to leave that ship, just get

3056
03:02:28,560 --> 03:02:31,240
Speaker 1: that part of the world out of your life, right

3057
03:02:31,280 --> 03:02:33,120
Speaker 1: because we are like Pete Rock just say that he

3058
03:02:33,200 --> 03:02:36,080
Speaker 1: did an album twenty two years ago and still haven't

3059
03:02:36,120 --> 03:02:38,160
Speaker 1: got paid on certain things. It's just something that you

3060
03:02:38,280 --> 03:02:40,880
Speaker 1: experienced as as a producer. No, I haven't had that

3061
03:02:41,080 --> 03:02:43,959
Speaker 1: that that problem, but you know, just other other things,

3062
03:02:44,040 --> 03:02:45,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just I think it

3063
03:02:45,560 --> 03:02:47,240
Speaker 1: becomes like when you're young, you're trying to figure out

3064
03:02:47,280 --> 03:02:49,240
Speaker 1: the balance of your success and your family and like

3065
03:02:49,640 --> 03:02:52,400
Speaker 1: and everything trying to figure figure all the balance of everything,

3066
03:02:52,600 --> 03:02:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, make everything work, feed everything, give us some sunshine,

3067
03:02:55,560 --> 03:02:56,880
Speaker 1: some love, you know what I mean. We water it

3068
03:02:57,000 --> 03:02:59,480
Speaker 1: and um you figure it out and you're like, all right, cool.

3069
03:02:59,520 --> 03:03:01,520
Speaker 1: But through thirty years, you know you're gonna have a

3070
03:03:01,600 --> 03:03:03,400
Speaker 1: few years here and there. You I'm gonna get into

3071
03:03:04,000 --> 03:03:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm a paintball for three years. You know, I'm gonna

3072
03:03:06,879 --> 03:03:08,440
Speaker 1: stay in the studio for five years and I go

3073
03:03:08,560 --> 03:03:14,880
Speaker 1: tour with it right right, That's where the life, you

3074
03:03:14,879 --> 03:03:16,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we know on each other

3075
03:03:16,280 --> 03:03:18,880
Speaker 1: so long. We just everybody flowing through, go through like

3076
03:03:19,320 --> 03:03:22,080
Speaker 1: life since fucking changes, you know, I mean, figure that

3077
03:03:22,120 --> 03:03:25,520
Speaker 1: ship out and ship so still right here, how about

3078
03:03:25,560 --> 03:03:28,400
Speaker 1: you for a love of the game board? Igua? Um?

3079
03:03:29,879 --> 03:03:33,800
Speaker 1: I did four minute uh. When my father passed, you know,

3080
03:03:34,560 --> 03:03:37,440
Speaker 1: it was a big It was a big blow. And

3081
03:03:37,959 --> 03:03:41,640
Speaker 1: I had a lot of you know, pressure because of

3082
03:03:42,600 --> 03:03:46,280
Speaker 1: what my father had accomplished and trying to keep that

3083
03:03:46,480 --> 03:03:50,040
Speaker 1: legacy going on and almost having a little bit of

3084
03:03:50,120 --> 03:03:52,320
Speaker 1: self doubt if I can I can do this and

3085
03:03:52,440 --> 03:03:54,920
Speaker 1: continue on and how am I gonna make my own way?

3086
03:03:55,760 --> 03:03:58,760
Speaker 1: So I had to go. I took a break I

3087
03:03:59,120 --> 03:04:04,520
Speaker 1: went to school, Um studied there, and but something was

3088
03:04:04,560 --> 03:04:08,080
Speaker 1: always calling me back. And when I did leave school,

3089
03:04:08,160 --> 03:04:12,160
Speaker 1: my mom said, well, you're leaving school. You gotta you

3090
03:04:12,240 --> 03:04:14,880
Speaker 1: got a year. You got a year to get your

3091
03:04:14,920 --> 03:04:16,880
Speaker 1: ship together or as you're gonna have to go back

3092
03:04:16,920 --> 03:04:21,240
Speaker 1: to school. And within that year, my whole life changed.

3093
03:04:21,680 --> 03:04:25,520
Speaker 1: In music, you know, got me back in That's when

3094
03:04:25,560 --> 03:04:28,440
Speaker 1: I started out with the BC Boys. I met I

3095
03:04:28,520 --> 03:04:31,400
Speaker 1: met the guys here, and you know, I knew that,

3096
03:04:31,760 --> 03:04:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, this was what I was supposed to be doing,

3097
03:04:34,320 --> 03:04:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, but it's very easy to get you know, uh,

3098
03:04:38,840 --> 03:04:41,600
Speaker 1: a little nervous about you know, the future, when you're

3099
03:04:41,680 --> 03:04:44,360
Speaker 1: unsure about you know, where you gotta go in your life,

3100
03:04:44,400 --> 03:04:46,000
Speaker 1: and sometimes you do have to take a break and

3101
03:04:46,280 --> 03:04:50,200
Speaker 1: reevaluate and reset, you know. But I'm glad that I

3102
03:04:50,280 --> 03:04:58,440
Speaker 1: didn't stop. We're glad you didn't stop me the brother besides,

3103
03:04:58,560 --> 03:05:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, you you know, leaving the group if it

3104
03:05:00,840 --> 03:05:02,879
Speaker 1: hasn't been the time prior to that where you felt

3105
03:05:02,920 --> 03:05:06,640
Speaker 1: like fun, this business, this game. Don never prior to

3106
03:05:06,800 --> 03:05:10,200
Speaker 1: that or never never at all during except during that

3107
03:05:10,360 --> 03:05:14,320
Speaker 1: point when I you know, the source was talking about

3108
03:05:14,400 --> 03:05:17,320
Speaker 1: us and you know, t yeah, trying to clown us

3109
03:05:17,360 --> 03:05:19,720
Speaker 1: and in their articles and this and that. I don't

3110
03:05:19,720 --> 03:05:22,320
Speaker 1: know if you remember that Ship were talking to Ship,

3111
03:05:22,480 --> 03:05:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, and I kind of just felt like, is

3112
03:05:24,520 --> 03:05:27,080
Speaker 1: this what I worked, you know, all my my ass

3113
03:05:27,120 --> 03:05:30,480
Speaker 1: off for so this motherfucker could talked about us or whatever.

3114
03:05:31,560 --> 03:05:33,800
Speaker 1: And I kind of just like a run. That same time,

3115
03:05:33,879 --> 03:05:37,360
Speaker 1: I kind of like turned off from you know, the

3116
03:05:37,520 --> 03:05:40,760
Speaker 1: business of hip hop and looked to somewhere else to

3117
03:05:40,879 --> 03:05:45,279
Speaker 1: get that freedom and creativity out. And uh, I definitely

3118
03:05:45,400 --> 03:05:48,800
Speaker 1: felt that that that part of me that wasn't in

3119
03:05:48,920 --> 03:05:52,320
Speaker 1: love with hip hop at that point. But luckily I

3120
03:05:52,440 --> 03:05:54,360
Speaker 1: was able to find it again, you know what I mean,

3121
03:05:54,840 --> 03:05:57,680
Speaker 1: and and and and attached myself to it again and

3122
03:05:58,080 --> 03:06:00,720
Speaker 1: come strong with it. And I mean, it's it's nothing

3123
03:06:00,800 --> 03:06:03,800
Speaker 1: that once you love something like, you know, hip hop,

3124
03:06:03,840 --> 03:06:05,640
Speaker 1: and you just can't just turn your back on it.

3125
03:06:06,000 --> 03:06:08,680
Speaker 1: And even if you do, forever, you're gonna have that regret,

3126
03:06:09,480 --> 03:06:12,199
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I didn't want that regret,

3127
03:06:12,760 --> 03:06:14,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I didn't want to what

3128
03:06:14,320 --> 03:06:16,960
Speaker 1: if I would have stood with these dudes or something

3129
03:06:17,080 --> 03:06:20,000
Speaker 1: Ship like that. You know, it was very important to

3130
03:06:20,080 --> 03:06:22,440
Speaker 1: come back to it and and resent him myself and

3131
03:06:22,879 --> 03:06:26,000
Speaker 1: and refocus myself and go strong as strong as I

3132
03:06:26,160 --> 03:06:28,600
Speaker 1: can that, you know, but I could, you know, go,

3133
03:06:28,920 --> 03:06:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, go hard hardcore with these dudes. Again. Do

3134
03:06:31,480 --> 03:06:35,880
Speaker 1: you mess with the Internet? Uh? Here and there? So

3135
03:06:36,000 --> 03:06:40,800
Speaker 1: you don't Twitter? No, Instagram, Twitter, Twitter, No, I don't

3136
03:06:40,840 --> 03:06:43,600
Speaker 1: funk with Twitter. I have a S C N D

3137
03:06:43,720 --> 03:06:46,800
Speaker 1: O G. Send dog with the blue check by that motherfucker.

3138
03:06:49,560 --> 03:06:54,119
Speaker 1: That's that's Instagram. Yeah, and they're sending dog a cypersel

3139
03:06:54,160 --> 03:06:56,640
Speaker 1: on Facebook. And uh, that's as deep as I go.

3140
03:06:56,720 --> 03:06:59,680
Speaker 1: I ain't that. I mean, I still rely on you know,

3141
03:07:00,640 --> 03:07:03,680
Speaker 1: your your own persona, you know, being bigger than life

3142
03:07:03,720 --> 03:07:06,880
Speaker 1: type of thing, no matter what the Instagram does whatever,

3143
03:07:08,160 --> 03:07:10,120
Speaker 1: And I know what it's worth. Don't I think I'm

3144
03:07:10,120 --> 03:07:14,680
Speaker 1: stupid or ignorant, you know what it is because um,

3145
03:07:16,200 --> 03:07:19,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us um didn't adapt that

3146
03:07:19,720 --> 03:07:22,040
Speaker 1: that way of life. Because I hear you're saying that,

3147
03:07:22,160 --> 03:07:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, the sources talking about you. And that's what's

3148
03:07:24,720 --> 03:07:29,959
Speaker 1: crazy is the Internet makes me terrible to say, makes

3149
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:33,280
Speaker 1: me like adapted to say someone one person goes say

3150
03:07:33,320 --> 03:07:43,080
Speaker 1: something bad, you know, the sources voiced their opinion. Okay,

3151
03:07:43,440 --> 03:07:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm a young buck twenty seven year old in the

3152
03:07:46,080 --> 03:07:48,960
Speaker 1: game and all that for a long time, all we

3153
03:07:49,120 --> 03:07:53,280
Speaker 1: had was glorification of the Cypress Hill group, right, And

3154
03:07:53,440 --> 03:07:56,320
Speaker 1: when our second album came out, they didn't feel that way.

3155
03:07:56,879 --> 03:08:00,720
Speaker 1: Kind of that I said it, and I kind of

3156
03:08:00,800 --> 03:08:03,080
Speaker 1: felt like upon myself, like to talk ship back. Well,

3157
03:08:03,120 --> 03:08:05,720
Speaker 1: there was a reason for this, right, Um, I mean

3158
03:08:05,840 --> 03:08:09,880
Speaker 1: we were all, you know, kind of friends with James Bernard,

3159
03:08:09,920 --> 03:08:13,440
Speaker 1: who was senior editor at The Source, right and and

3160
03:08:13,879 --> 03:08:17,279
Speaker 1: uh he came and did the first interview with Cyprus

3161
03:08:17,400 --> 03:08:20,680
Speaker 1: on the Cyprus Block and we're cool with all good,

3162
03:08:21,000 --> 03:08:22,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they celebrated us on

3163
03:08:23,080 --> 03:08:25,880
Speaker 1: the first album and then Black Sunday they gave us

3164
03:08:25,879 --> 03:08:28,280
Speaker 1: a great review and the whole ship. But then the

3165
03:08:28,400 --> 03:08:33,000
Speaker 1: very next um, the very next write up was you know,

3166
03:08:33,200 --> 03:08:35,600
Speaker 1: it was negative. And the reason was we were at

3167
03:08:35,640 --> 03:08:40,560
Speaker 1: an MTV party and uh or an MTV after party

3168
03:08:40,640 --> 03:08:44,240
Speaker 1: for uh MTV Awards when we used to go right

3169
03:08:45,080 --> 03:08:47,560
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we're sitting there shooting ship with

3170
03:08:47,680 --> 03:08:50,680
Speaker 1: everybody that that we recognize, and it recognized as you know,

3171
03:08:50,760 --> 03:08:53,879
Speaker 1: how it goes, right, And so I'm having a conversation

3172
03:08:54,040 --> 03:08:59,360
Speaker 1: with James Bernard about like the TLC cover and you know,

3173
03:09:00,040 --> 03:09:03,200
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know, like you're because there

3174
03:09:03,320 --> 03:09:06,160
Speaker 1: was I don't know if you know, of course you know,

3175
03:09:06,520 --> 03:09:08,440
Speaker 1: and I know you know, but there was like a

3176
03:09:08,560 --> 03:09:14,040
Speaker 1: criteria that had to be and they didn't meet the

3177
03:09:14,120 --> 03:09:17,400
Speaker 1: criteria at the time. And I expressed that to him.

3178
03:09:17,520 --> 03:09:20,119
Speaker 1: And as I expressed that to him, Joe Butcher, who

3179
03:09:20,400 --> 03:09:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, one of the owners of rough House Records,

3180
03:09:23,640 --> 03:09:28,320
Speaker 1: who was yeah, well yeah, he was the one that

3181
03:09:28,440 --> 03:09:30,760
Speaker 1: got you know, they signed as he knew mugs, you know,

3182
03:09:30,920 --> 03:09:35,520
Speaker 1: he kind of interrupts in that conversation, unknowing of what

3183
03:09:35,680 --> 03:09:37,959
Speaker 1: the conversation was. He was like, Yobi, I gotta talk

3184
03:09:37,959 --> 03:09:41,120
Speaker 1: to you about something real quick. And I said, Joe James,

3185
03:09:41,440 --> 03:09:45,240
Speaker 1: let's let's pick at a different time. And he took

3186
03:09:45,280 --> 03:09:48,360
Speaker 1: it personal that like he didn't get his rebuttal on

3187
03:09:48,959 --> 03:09:51,760
Speaker 1: you know at that point, like as to White, But

3188
03:09:51,840 --> 03:09:54,040
Speaker 1: he didn't have to fucking explain to me. I was

3189
03:09:54,160 --> 03:09:57,240
Speaker 1: just giving him an opinion, like, you know, because they

3190
03:09:57,320 --> 03:10:00,320
Speaker 1: held they held our ship so close, like we only

3191
03:10:00,400 --> 03:10:02,800
Speaker 1: got but one cover, and we met the criteria at

3192
03:10:02,840 --> 03:10:05,840
Speaker 1: times ten you know what I mean. But we never

3193
03:10:06,080 --> 03:10:09,480
Speaker 1: really complained about anything. We just he asked me an opinion.

3194
03:10:09,520 --> 03:10:10,960
Speaker 1: I gave it to him and he didn't like it.

3195
03:10:11,160 --> 03:10:14,120
Speaker 1: So then everything else that came after that was on

3196
03:10:14,320 --> 03:10:18,920
Speaker 1: negative about Cypress Hill. So then we said, well fuck

3197
03:10:19,040 --> 03:10:23,640
Speaker 1: the Source then, and we started burning that ship on stage,

3198
03:10:24,320 --> 03:10:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, like going out of everywhere, not not not

3199
03:10:28,680 --> 03:10:34,960
Speaker 1: just everywhere. And it made people go crazy when we

3200
03:10:35,080 --> 03:10:37,400
Speaker 1: did that, and salute the Source because we you know,

3201
03:10:37,560 --> 03:10:40,920
Speaker 1: we squashed our ship since then. But it started with

3202
03:10:41,040 --> 03:10:43,800
Speaker 1: James Bernard in my opinion of that TLC cover and

3203
03:10:43,879 --> 03:10:47,680
Speaker 1: TLC are legends, you know, and salute and respect to them.

3204
03:10:47,840 --> 03:10:50,520
Speaker 1: But he was asking me my opinion about that, and

3205
03:10:50,600 --> 03:10:53,680
Speaker 1: I gave him a time point because it can't understand

3206
03:10:53,720 --> 03:10:56,480
Speaker 1: that that time point, right, we were purius. You can't

3207
03:10:56,480 --> 03:11:00,520
Speaker 1: see TLC later, Yes, you got to see that, right.

3208
03:11:00,600 --> 03:11:03,080
Speaker 1: We were purists. Had to be hardcore hand to pop

3209
03:11:03,160 --> 03:11:05,760
Speaker 1: on the Source cover, That's who we were. He was like,

3210
03:11:05,920 --> 03:11:07,840
Speaker 1: we asked him one time, can we get on the

3211
03:11:07,879 --> 03:11:09,320
Speaker 1: cover of the Source. He's like, no, it has to

3212
03:11:09,440 --> 03:11:11,560
Speaker 1: be a second album. And then all of a sudden,

3213
03:11:11,640 --> 03:11:14,280
Speaker 1: Tales he was on there on their first album. You know,

3214
03:11:15,120 --> 03:11:17,360
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, what's up with that ship? Yeah?

3215
03:11:17,400 --> 03:11:20,880
Speaker 1: And I just my name can't be be real if

3216
03:11:20,920 --> 03:11:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm not being one fucking thousand, and that was one

3217
03:11:23,560 --> 03:11:25,280
Speaker 1: thousand with him, and he didn't like that, and so

3218
03:11:25,440 --> 03:11:29,320
Speaker 1: the campaign against us begun. Hence the ship talking that

3219
03:11:29,480 --> 03:11:32,680
Speaker 1: San Dog was talking about, because they were celebrating the

3220
03:11:32,840 --> 03:11:36,760
Speaker 1: funk out of us before then after that Nah Fox

3221
03:11:36,760 --> 03:11:39,800
Speaker 1: Cyper s Hilver, they told sand Dog, they said, next

3222
03:11:39,840 --> 03:11:42,160
Speaker 1: time you burn a source on stage, watch out. You

3223
03:11:42,240 --> 03:11:45,440
Speaker 1: don't burn your green card. And they wrote that ship

3224
03:11:45,560 --> 03:11:49,200
Speaker 1: in the source, remember that ship. And we kept and

3225
03:11:49,280 --> 03:11:53,280
Speaker 1: we kept burning, we kept burning. But again, you know, eventually,

3226
03:11:53,480 --> 03:11:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, we sat down with Dave May's Salute to

3227
03:11:55,520 --> 03:11:59,240
Speaker 1: Dave May's and we squashed that ship out because I

3228
03:11:59,280 --> 03:12:02,880
Speaker 1: mean it was, you know, sorry, it was over nothing,

3229
03:12:03,040 --> 03:12:04,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was like, you know,

3230
03:12:04,600 --> 03:12:07,680
Speaker 1: over an opinion. And you know, at the time, James

3231
03:12:07,720 --> 03:12:11,720
Speaker 1: Bernardon and he jumped shipped to double XEL magazine after

3232
03:12:11,800 --> 03:12:14,039
Speaker 1: a while, so and then we had beef with them

3233
03:12:14,720 --> 03:12:20,160
Speaker 1: because he jumped over and took the beef we had

3234
03:12:20,240 --> 03:12:22,760
Speaker 1: with him right as you used to think like they

3235
03:12:22,840 --> 03:12:25,280
Speaker 1: was gangster writing articles about you, you know what I mean,

3236
03:12:25,360 --> 03:12:28,480
Speaker 1: like like you just write about what the funk we're doing?

3237
03:12:28,520 --> 03:12:33,480
Speaker 1: Shut the funk up. We forgive you, James Bernard, we

3238
03:12:33,640 --> 03:12:36,960
Speaker 1: forgive you. You know what's fun up about them was

3239
03:12:37,080 --> 03:12:40,440
Speaker 1: like you go write an article in like January and

3240
03:12:40,600 --> 03:12:48,000
Speaker 1: she won't come out to like mark you. You see

3241
03:12:48,000 --> 03:12:53,840
Speaker 1: what you was talking about, Like it's crazy, man. That's

3242
03:12:53,840 --> 03:12:55,760
Speaker 1: why I asked you about the internet, because the Internet.

3243
03:12:56,320 --> 03:12:59,440
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, I remember literally with my ass

3244
03:13:00,200 --> 03:13:03,640
Speaker 1: my my first solo album, second group a second album,

3245
03:13:03,680 --> 03:13:07,280
Speaker 1: but my first solo album, and we would drop it

3246
03:13:07,360 --> 03:13:09,840
Speaker 1: and I had to literally go to these countries we

3247
03:13:09,879 --> 03:13:12,000
Speaker 1: could they couldn't send the records, like I had to

3248
03:13:12,080 --> 03:13:14,560
Speaker 1: go there as to go to the London perform as

3249
03:13:14,600 --> 03:13:17,000
Speaker 1: to go and right now you could just send the Japan.

3250
03:13:17,120 --> 03:13:21,040
Speaker 1: It's just the Japan like like like like it's streaming something,

3251
03:13:21,080 --> 03:13:23,160
Speaker 1: you guys, and I know you guys did the Napster thing.

3252
03:13:23,440 --> 03:13:26,760
Speaker 1: It's streaming something that you're embracing or you have to

3253
03:13:26,840 --> 03:13:30,119
Speaker 1: embrace it. I think every kind of technology that comes along,

3254
03:13:30,720 --> 03:13:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, you know the road of your adventure. And

3255
03:13:34,680 --> 03:13:37,000
Speaker 1: if I mean, if you don't, then that's just a

3256
03:13:37,120 --> 03:13:41,600
Speaker 1: certain amount of numbers that you're gonna lose. In my opinion, Yeah,

3257
03:13:41,680 --> 03:13:44,120
Speaker 1: you have to get whatever they change. However, the game

3258
03:13:44,240 --> 03:13:47,240
Speaker 1: changes a certain amount of you have to change with

3259
03:13:47,400 --> 03:13:50,760
Speaker 1: it and go with that new certain platform, you know

3260
03:13:50,800 --> 03:13:52,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, Because that's just a new platform and

3261
03:13:53,000 --> 03:13:55,440
Speaker 1: it's just how it goes, and you adapt with the

3262
03:13:55,520 --> 03:13:58,360
Speaker 1: times or you don't. You know, if you adapt with

3263
03:13:58,440 --> 03:14:01,800
Speaker 1: the times, I think young longer than if you don't

3264
03:14:01,840 --> 03:14:05,320
Speaker 1: adapt with what's going on technology wise. Yeah, I mean,

3265
03:14:05,440 --> 03:14:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, and you've got to look at it as

3266
03:14:06,920 --> 03:14:10,200
Speaker 1: it's a broader platform. It could get out to two

3267
03:14:10,600 --> 03:14:15,640
Speaker 1: bigger numbers. Yeah, if you know, if it goes quote

3268
03:14:15,680 --> 03:14:19,360
Speaker 1: unquote viral. You know what I'm saying. But it depends

3269
03:14:19,400 --> 03:14:20,880
Speaker 1: on the work you put into it and how you

3270
03:14:21,000 --> 03:14:23,360
Speaker 1: promote it and how you market the ship and like

3271
03:14:23,520 --> 03:14:25,640
Speaker 1: how much you how hard you go to get it

3272
03:14:25,720 --> 03:14:28,480
Speaker 1: out there. Because we've done live streams. I mean I've

3273
03:14:28,520 --> 03:14:31,200
Speaker 1: been doing that ship for you know, twelve years now,

3274
03:14:32,000 --> 03:14:34,800
Speaker 1: Like with my b Real TV platform, and I realized

3275
03:14:34,840 --> 03:14:37,120
Speaker 1: that that that was like a platform because I used

3276
03:14:37,160 --> 03:14:40,440
Speaker 1: to do radio in Los Angeles, Bobo and myself and

3277
03:14:40,520 --> 03:14:43,720
Speaker 1: we realized having a platform is everything, you know, So

3278
03:14:44,200 --> 03:14:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, if you wanted to do performances, if you

3279
03:14:46,280 --> 03:14:50,480
Speaker 1: wanted to market your new ship or whatever, creating a

3280
03:14:50,600 --> 03:14:54,720
Speaker 1: platform is everything. So you know, if you have it

3281
03:14:54,840 --> 03:14:57,080
Speaker 1: at your fingertips, you do it. And we've tried to

3282
03:14:57,200 --> 03:15:01,440
Speaker 1: utilize it in every aspects talk about yeah, yeah, yeah,

3283
03:15:01,560 --> 03:15:05,119
Speaker 1: you know because realistically, you know, that's the one way

3284
03:15:05,200 --> 03:15:09,160
Speaker 1: you get out to everybody. And you know, like so

3285
03:15:09,480 --> 03:15:12,880
Speaker 1: for instance, with the pandemic, right, um, we were we

3286
03:15:13,000 --> 03:15:15,160
Speaker 1: were all shut down at that point. We weren't doing

3287
03:15:15,200 --> 03:15:18,360
Speaker 1: any live shows at this point, like getting in front

3288
03:15:18,440 --> 03:15:21,800
Speaker 1: of people, but we were fortunate enough to be still

3289
03:15:22,760 --> 03:15:26,480
Speaker 1: doing ship and be busy. Well that was happening via

3290
03:15:26,680 --> 03:15:28,959
Speaker 1: these streams, you know what I mean, because we would

3291
03:15:29,000 --> 03:15:33,080
Speaker 1: put out live stream performances or you know, things like that,

3292
03:15:33,440 --> 03:15:36,840
Speaker 1: and uh so it could be your friend if you

3293
03:15:37,200 --> 03:15:40,959
Speaker 1: if you use it, right, Um, so you know we've

3294
03:15:41,120 --> 03:15:44,400
Speaker 1: we've always tried to like utilize the tools that we

3295
03:15:44,520 --> 03:15:46,680
Speaker 1: have in front of us. So that's definitely one of them.

3296
03:15:47,160 --> 03:15:49,480
Speaker 1: Right now, both were you sending and be really you

3297
03:15:49,640 --> 03:15:53,960
Speaker 1: both got like very unique voices, Like there's no like

3298
03:15:54,160 --> 03:15:56,280
Speaker 1: when I hear your voice, I noticed you. When I

3299
03:15:56,360 --> 03:15:59,000
Speaker 1: hear your voice, I know that's you. There's not a

3300
03:15:59,120 --> 03:16:02,000
Speaker 1: lot of people who distinct voices like that. Who's the

3301
03:16:02,080 --> 03:16:05,480
Speaker 1: one of who's both of you guys, who's someone that's

3302
03:16:05,520 --> 03:16:07,920
Speaker 1: a How's unique voice that you guys are Chuck d

3303
03:16:08,920 --> 03:16:17,400
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Us Unique rock him, Unique ad Rock, Unique,

3304
03:16:18,320 --> 03:16:25,720
Speaker 1: Q Tip, Unique, bust Rhymes unique. You know what I'm saying.

3305
03:16:25,800 --> 03:16:30,080
Speaker 1: Like these these guys got voices that cut through anything,

3306
03:16:31,320 --> 03:16:34,080
Speaker 1: and and so you know, we wanted we wanted that

3307
03:16:34,320 --> 03:16:36,720
Speaker 1: for us, So we developed our ship. Like my rap

3308
03:16:36,920 --> 03:16:40,560
Speaker 1: voice wasn't what it what it was on records before

3309
03:16:40,640 --> 03:16:43,400
Speaker 1: we figured it out, you know what I mean, it

3310
03:16:43,600 --> 03:16:47,560
Speaker 1: was very It was fucking whacked, to be honest with you, Yes,

3311
03:16:48,959 --> 03:16:51,120
Speaker 1: just like the young demos, you know, that's what I

3312
03:16:51,160 --> 03:16:52,760
Speaker 1: was trying to figure it out, what the funk we're doing?

3313
03:16:53,320 --> 03:16:55,400
Speaker 1: And then and then I figured out my voice from

3314
03:16:55,440 --> 03:16:59,360
Speaker 1: a from again a ram mell Z record. Ram mel

3315
03:16:59,480 --> 03:17:02,120
Speaker 1: Z you to pitch his voice, he you know, start

3316
03:17:02,200 --> 03:17:04,240
Speaker 1: off with the low tone and then he flipped to

3317
03:17:04,320 --> 03:17:06,800
Speaker 1: a fucking high tone out of nowhere, randomly in a

3318
03:17:06,879 --> 03:17:09,480
Speaker 1: in a rap song. And that's what gave me the

3319
03:17:09,600 --> 03:17:12,480
Speaker 1: idea to do my ship like that, because my my

3320
03:17:12,680 --> 03:17:16,560
Speaker 1: voice wasn't cutting through, and we all knew at that point,

3321
03:17:16,720 --> 03:17:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, like send Dog, I mean send dog mugs

3322
03:17:19,680 --> 03:17:22,200
Speaker 1: and myself this is before Bobo. We knew that like

3323
03:17:23,160 --> 03:17:25,520
Speaker 1: gott to be distinct and it's gotta cut through. So

3324
03:17:25,800 --> 03:17:29,160
Speaker 1: me pitching my voice was an idea I had to,

3325
03:17:29,720 --> 03:17:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, to cut through because my voice. My writing

3326
03:17:34,240 --> 03:17:36,680
Speaker 1: was good, but my voice was just not there. And

3327
03:17:37,240 --> 03:17:40,119
Speaker 1: when that happened, it became a little bit more interesting

3328
03:17:40,800 --> 03:17:43,120
Speaker 1: and the songs became a little bit more interesting and

3329
03:17:43,240 --> 03:17:47,240
Speaker 1: they had more color in it. So you know, having

3330
03:17:47,879 --> 03:17:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, a distinct voices, I mean, you know, like

3331
03:17:50,120 --> 03:17:52,240
Speaker 1: where you recognize it off the top of all. That's

3332
03:17:52,520 --> 03:17:57,640
Speaker 1: like jay z distinct voice you want. It's just people

3333
03:17:57,640 --> 03:18:00,560
Speaker 1: who who who bit jay Z? Yeah, but they can't

3334
03:18:00,600 --> 03:18:05,400
Speaker 1: sound like him, just like people can't sound like like.

3335
03:18:05,480 --> 03:18:08,600
Speaker 1: There's been many motherfucker's trying to sound like Buster and

3336
03:18:08,680 --> 03:18:12,760
Speaker 1: it sounds like you did come close somebody you like,

3337
03:18:12,959 --> 03:18:20,160
Speaker 1: um um voice tomes uh king dmc wow from the

3338
03:18:20,240 --> 03:18:23,120
Speaker 1: Hollis Crew, you know what I mean. That's one of

3339
03:18:23,160 --> 03:18:25,680
Speaker 1: the dudes, one of my original like dudes that I

3340
03:18:25,760 --> 03:18:27,960
Speaker 1: look up to as like a because he wasn't on

3341
03:18:28,360 --> 03:18:30,560
Speaker 1: He wasn't even the primary rhymer and all this stuff.

3342
03:18:30,879 --> 03:18:33,400
Speaker 1: He was a secondary rhymer And I respect that kind

3343
03:18:33,440 --> 03:18:35,320
Speaker 1: of ship. You know what I mean. So I looked

3344
03:18:35,360 --> 03:18:39,360
Speaker 1: at him as a as a like a like an

3345
03:18:39,480 --> 03:18:44,680
Speaker 1: inspiration and then also said, g from Ultra Magnetic, Am

3346
03:18:44,680 --> 03:18:49,400
Speaker 1: I taking you back? Now? All right? That was always

3347
03:18:49,440 --> 03:18:53,640
Speaker 1: cool kid come up with the danger ship and then

3348
03:18:53,720 --> 03:18:56,440
Speaker 1: said come up, you know what I mean, and and

3349
03:18:56,720 --> 03:18:59,200
Speaker 1: follow that up with a with a certain punch, And

3350
03:18:59,280 --> 03:19:01,240
Speaker 1: that always tressed me, you know what I mean. It

3351
03:19:01,360 --> 03:19:05,800
Speaker 1: wasn't always the you know, it's all production things like

3352
03:19:05,920 --> 03:19:08,280
Speaker 1: so the primary dudo is all good and great, but

3353
03:19:08,280 --> 03:19:10,120
Speaker 1: I want to hear what the next guy coming, how

3354
03:19:10,280 --> 03:19:12,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna add to the song, and how he's gonna

3355
03:19:12,840 --> 03:19:16,400
Speaker 1: uplift it and this and that kind of thing. And uh,

3356
03:19:16,840 --> 03:19:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, most picked up on that as I was

3357
03:19:18,920 --> 03:19:23,280
Speaker 1: doing the whole you know, good man ship, and he's

3358
03:19:23,320 --> 03:19:29,680
Speaker 1: like elevator, more of a prominent secondary role, you know

3359
03:19:29,680 --> 03:19:31,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's the kind of due that

3360
03:19:32,000 --> 03:19:33,440
Speaker 1: I would look up to. It wasn't I was the

3361
03:19:33,480 --> 03:19:36,440
Speaker 1: primary cat. It was you know, sometimes I would look

3362
03:19:36,480 --> 03:19:39,520
Speaker 1: at the you know, like the second dude or even

3363
03:19:39,600 --> 03:19:41,600
Speaker 1: sometimes even the third dude, you know what I mean,

3364
03:19:42,160 --> 03:19:44,320
Speaker 1: and I would find inspiration in that kind of thing.

3365
03:19:45,000 --> 03:19:47,440
Speaker 1: That's that's that's crazy, like Loys Lost Boys was freaky

3366
03:19:47,520 --> 03:19:51,440
Speaker 1: tie right. Yeah, it's all about the you know what

3367
03:19:51,520 --> 03:19:54,199
Speaker 1: I mean. But you needed that, like that wasn't something

3368
03:19:54,240 --> 03:19:56,200
Speaker 1: that you could go without. That that added to what

3369
03:19:56,360 --> 03:19:59,240
Speaker 1: the group was, like even flav like even flame like

3370
03:20:00,440 --> 03:20:05,720
Speaker 1: Public without flicks. Also like Eric Sermon, you know what

3371
03:20:05,720 --> 03:20:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Eric Sermon's voice was very distinct of course,

3372
03:20:09,680 --> 03:20:13,480
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, like he had that slight lisp.

3373
03:20:14,400 --> 03:20:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like the EP of D Ship

3374
03:20:17,920 --> 03:20:20,640
Speaker 1: that was like we had major run with that ship

3375
03:20:20,879 --> 03:20:25,000
Speaker 1: like that in Pe was always in the system and

3376
03:20:25,360 --> 03:20:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, like Eric Sermon's voice always cut through in

3377
03:20:29,240 --> 03:20:31,560
Speaker 1: just in a different way, you know what I'm saying,

3378
03:20:31,600 --> 03:20:36,920
Speaker 1: And um, that's in hip hop at that point. That's

3379
03:20:36,959 --> 03:20:40,000
Speaker 1: what you needed, that distinction and your own sound. That's

3380
03:20:40,040 --> 03:20:43,440
Speaker 1: what he was listening to, Like eight nine p m D.

3381
03:20:43,600 --> 03:20:47,680
Speaker 1: Public Enemy, Ultra Magnetic, you have to be mad different

3382
03:20:47,720 --> 03:20:50,720
Speaker 1: than anything that was needed. It was a month that

3383
03:20:50,840 --> 03:20:55,280
Speaker 1: was creatively different from everybody else. Yeah, and I don't

3384
03:20:55,320 --> 03:20:59,560
Speaker 1: know so much of a of a thing today, but

3385
03:20:59,720 --> 03:21:02,240
Speaker 1: back in our day, you know what I mean, that's

3386
03:21:13,040 --> 03:21:16,480
Speaker 1: your own original sound and that's gonna set you apart

3387
03:21:16,560 --> 03:21:19,840
Speaker 1: from the fields. Yeah, that's the truth of it. Though

3388
03:21:21,480 --> 03:21:24,039
Speaker 1: they happen to the show at a place where they

3389
03:21:24,120 --> 03:21:32,000
Speaker 1: don't allow smoke marijuana. Yes, anywhere in Texas, everywhere, everywhere,

3390
03:21:32,040 --> 03:21:34,880
Speaker 1: there was no well we started smoking on stage, there

3391
03:21:34,959 --> 03:21:40,680
Speaker 1: was no order. We're not I don't listen. Here's the thing.

3392
03:21:40,840 --> 03:21:43,040
Speaker 1: Either they had mad love for us and they gave

3393
03:21:43,120 --> 03:21:45,120
Speaker 1: us the past or they didn't think we had the

3394
03:21:45,200 --> 03:21:48,960
Speaker 1: audacity to be smoking real weed up on stage. That

3395
03:21:49,120 --> 03:21:51,080
Speaker 1: had to be fake. You know what I'm saying. I

3396
03:21:51,120 --> 03:21:53,280
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I can't answer it for him,

3397
03:21:53,360 --> 03:21:55,480
Speaker 1: but like we got away with it in places that

3398
03:21:56,200 --> 03:21:59,160
Speaker 1: you normally shouldn't and wouldn't get away with it. We

3399
03:21:59,440 --> 03:22:03,480
Speaker 1: were black. God bless the funk out of us in

3400
03:22:03,680 --> 03:22:06,520
Speaker 1: some way that we gotta wait with smoking in places

3401
03:22:06,560 --> 03:22:10,240
Speaker 1: that you don't or you're not supposed to. And yeah,

3402
03:22:10,560 --> 03:22:14,480
Speaker 1: most definitely and chances, but I'll say this for some

3403
03:22:14,840 --> 03:22:17,400
Speaker 1: for some spots they would warn us. And in those

3404
03:22:17,440 --> 03:22:21,480
Speaker 1: spots we were like, okay, cool, then yeah, something like that.

3405
03:22:21,680 --> 03:22:24,000
Speaker 1: Upon the stage, you're going to jail. They're waiting for you.

3406
03:22:24,360 --> 03:22:27,000
Speaker 1: Like back in the day in Texas, if they were fans,

3407
03:22:27,120 --> 03:22:29,120
Speaker 1: they'd come and warn us, and you know, give us

3408
03:22:29,160 --> 03:22:32,160
Speaker 1: the heads up, like, hey, listen, we're fans, but you

3409
03:22:32,240 --> 03:22:35,240
Speaker 1: can't smoke that ship on stage. Otherwise we gotta arrest you.

3410
03:22:35,360 --> 03:22:38,440
Speaker 1: And that's us doing our job. Do what you want

3411
03:22:38,480 --> 03:22:40,760
Speaker 1: to do, but guess you know, just know that we

3412
03:22:40,920 --> 03:22:43,720
Speaker 1: have to take you in if you fucking go right.

3413
03:22:43,840 --> 03:22:48,080
Speaker 1: So when they gave us the heads up, yeah, we

3414
03:22:48,200 --> 03:22:51,160
Speaker 1: were inclined to be smart enough to listen to that advice.

3415
03:22:51,680 --> 03:22:54,120
Speaker 1: If they didn't tell us, we would just take it

3416
03:22:54,240 --> 03:22:57,000
Speaker 1: upon ourselves to be like, we're gonna do this ship

3417
03:22:57,240 --> 03:22:59,720
Speaker 1: and that's it. Because I feel like y'all and Snoop

3418
03:22:59,760 --> 03:23:05,080
Speaker 1: got the ultimate meat anywhere past, like yeah close, I

3419
03:23:05,200 --> 03:23:06,880
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like I feel like as soon

3420
03:23:06,920 --> 03:23:08,560
Speaker 1: as y'all take into the hotel, they're supposed to be

3421
03:23:08,560 --> 03:23:10,800
Speaker 1: like Incipe, the sales here. That's it. I'll tell you.

3422
03:23:11,400 --> 03:23:15,560
Speaker 1: I took a lot of fines my time in hotels

3423
03:23:15,560 --> 03:23:17,880
Speaker 1: because my room this church. When it comes to smoke,

3424
03:23:21,959 --> 03:23:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in there tomorrow, right, Yes, my my

3425
03:23:27,440 --> 03:23:29,760
Speaker 1: roommates like my room it's the temple, it's the church.

3426
03:23:30,320 --> 03:23:32,440
Speaker 1: You know. We blow my room up and I get

3427
03:23:32,480 --> 03:23:35,199
Speaker 1: the charges, But inside, are you going on the balcony

3428
03:23:35,280 --> 03:23:37,600
Speaker 1: if we got a balcony, we're going on the balcony.

3429
03:23:37,600 --> 03:23:42,200
Speaker 1: I now we're blown of these days were covering the

3430
03:23:42,280 --> 03:23:45,120
Speaker 1: smoke detector and we're blowing that ship up. That we

3431
03:23:45,200 --> 03:23:47,600
Speaker 1: did with the first new episode. We had to put

3432
03:23:47,800 --> 03:23:50,080
Speaker 1: the towels on the smoke detectors, take them out like

3433
03:23:50,280 --> 03:23:55,600
Speaker 1: our cappy, yeah, our cat. Yeah. But do we I

3434
03:23:55,720 --> 03:23:57,560
Speaker 1: mean back in the days used to put, you know,

3435
03:23:57,760 --> 03:24:00,920
Speaker 1: a tower under the door and have some spray. That's

3436
03:24:01,000 --> 03:24:09,800
Speaker 1: the word. This doesn't have me a balcony room on

3437
03:24:09,920 --> 03:24:15,920
Speaker 1: the smoke alarm. Yeah, that's the works. Man, Holy moly, man,

3438
03:24:17,000 --> 03:24:19,119
Speaker 1: Jesus man. That's been so great. Man. Like I said,

3439
03:24:19,200 --> 03:24:22,160
Speaker 1: man um, when we started this show, we wanted to

3440
03:24:22,200 --> 03:24:25,440
Speaker 1: give people, you know, they flowers, they roses while they alive.

3441
03:24:25,520 --> 03:24:27,320
Speaker 1: You know, so many people you in this game ten

3442
03:24:27,440 --> 03:24:30,160
Speaker 1: years and they want to say, you know, you washed up.

3443
03:24:30,879 --> 03:24:33,200
Speaker 1: And it's like that world don't exist in any other

3444
03:24:33,280 --> 03:24:35,760
Speaker 1: genre of music but hip hop. It's like and and

3445
03:24:35,840 --> 03:24:37,880
Speaker 1: the thing is, we noticed a young man's sport. We

3446
03:24:37,959 --> 03:24:40,680
Speaker 1: get it, we get it, we noticed a young but

3447
03:24:40,760 --> 03:24:42,800
Speaker 1: it's also the O. G. S who told us we

3448
03:24:43,040 --> 03:24:44,840
Speaker 1: looked up to O. G. S. And now that we're

3449
03:24:44,879 --> 03:24:46,960
Speaker 1: the o G s. I don't want to just bow

3450
03:24:47,080 --> 03:24:49,960
Speaker 1: out like that is still in it what I'm saying

3451
03:24:50,000 --> 03:24:52,960
Speaker 1: to the creative sport. Let's just say listen to the

3452
03:24:53,080 --> 03:24:56,000
Speaker 1: Yellow to the Yellow boys coming up, and y'all know

3453
03:24:56,440 --> 03:24:58,680
Speaker 1: we give it to y'all. We love y'all, but you

3454
03:24:58,840 --> 03:25:02,080
Speaker 1: can'tnot take it away from we. We late never because

3455
03:25:02,080 --> 03:25:04,160
Speaker 1: they would never be another type of sales. You know

3456
03:25:04,200 --> 03:25:06,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like there will never be another type

3457
03:25:06,240 --> 03:25:08,360
Speaker 1: of sales. So I want to give y'all y'all love

3458
03:25:08,400 --> 03:25:10,400
Speaker 1: to y'all face. You know what I'm saying to you.

3459
03:25:10,680 --> 03:25:12,760
Speaker 1: You know we love y'all for real, like y'all open

3460
03:25:12,840 --> 03:25:15,760
Speaker 1: the door for not only you know, not West Coast rap,

3461
03:25:16,040 --> 03:25:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, not only latinos, but just for great music

3462
03:25:19,480 --> 03:25:21,680
Speaker 1: and music that you just want to just just just

3463
03:25:22,040 --> 03:25:24,080
Speaker 1: and and all of your brothers. I know all your

3464
03:25:24,120 --> 03:25:27,160
Speaker 1: brothers individually, all of your brothers are fucking great people.

3465
03:25:27,360 --> 03:25:28,760
Speaker 1: I just want to say that to your face. You

3466
03:25:28,800 --> 03:25:32,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I gotta give you money. I

3467
03:25:32,400 --> 03:25:34,200
Speaker 1: got you guys here when you stop my class and

3468
03:25:38,800 --> 03:25:54,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna not real talk. Though it's crazy for me

3469
03:25:54,240 --> 03:25:56,960
Speaker 1: to be right here sitting down with y'all absolutely. And

3470
03:25:57,040 --> 03:25:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this as a as a Cuban kid

3471
03:25:59,640 --> 03:26:03,520
Speaker 1: born in l A to Cuban exiles raising south Gate

3472
03:26:03,600 --> 03:26:06,560
Speaker 1: to a young age, and then moved to Miami and

3473
03:26:06,640 --> 03:26:09,360
Speaker 1: be a Cuban kid in Miami. Didn't understand being a

3474
03:26:09,400 --> 03:26:11,080
Speaker 1: Cuban kid in Miami because I'm an l A kid.

3475
03:26:11,760 --> 03:26:14,960
Speaker 1: And then y'all come out, and how important that was

3476
03:26:15,400 --> 03:26:18,680
Speaker 1: to someone like myself, you know what I'm saying to understand, like, oh, ship,

3477
03:26:18,760 --> 03:26:21,880
Speaker 1: there's roots there, there's something I can identify with and

3478
03:26:21,959 --> 03:26:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm I'm already a hip hop head and

3479
03:26:24,600 --> 03:26:28,720
Speaker 1: and it it inspires me and that might not get

3480
03:26:28,800 --> 03:26:31,600
Speaker 1: me here sitting down right now, just letting you know that,

3481
03:26:32,040 --> 03:26:34,320
Speaker 1: and it's just so inspirational. Man, I want to thank y'all.

3482
03:26:34,520 --> 03:26:36,959
Speaker 1: Y'all the biggest thing to me and to a lot

3483
03:26:37,000 --> 03:26:39,720
Speaker 1: of my crazy hood crew that's here, Like we love y'all, man,

3484
03:26:39,840 --> 03:26:49,360
Speaker 1: Like y'all think right to that, to that this is

3485
03:26:49,440 --> 03:26:53,240
Speaker 1: the young man's game, ship, right, That's the narrative that is,

3486
03:26:53,680 --> 03:26:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, perpetuated by record companies and radio stations, and

3487
03:26:57,600 --> 03:27:00,920
Speaker 1: that's because both don't know how to each out to

3488
03:27:01,080 --> 03:27:03,320
Speaker 1: the folks that grew up with this ship. They don't

3489
03:27:03,360 --> 03:27:05,400
Speaker 1: know how to market and promote to the to the

3490
03:27:05,480 --> 03:27:09,000
Speaker 1: folks that grew up with our ship, who now our parents,

3491
03:27:09,400 --> 03:27:13,200
Speaker 1: and they got mortgages and fucking leases or whatever the

3492
03:27:13,280 --> 03:27:16,160
Speaker 1: fucking bills to pay that they're not like tuned in

3493
03:27:16,360 --> 03:27:20,480
Speaker 1: to the Friday and Tuesday new music drops. The record

3494
03:27:20,560 --> 03:27:23,680
Speaker 1: companies forget about them. They grew up with you, and

3495
03:27:23,720 --> 03:27:26,280
Speaker 1: they're always fucking with you, but they're not as aware

3496
03:27:26,400 --> 03:27:29,160
Speaker 1: as they were when they were teens on Fridays now

3497
03:27:29,440 --> 03:27:32,960
Speaker 1: well Tuesdays and Friday, Tuesday on our on our on

3498
03:27:33,120 --> 03:27:42,040
Speaker 1: our calendar, Friday and Fridays, right, So they don't know

3499
03:27:42,400 --> 03:27:46,959
Speaker 1: how to get to like the people past thirty something

3500
03:27:47,120 --> 03:27:49,800
Speaker 1: into their fifties who grew up with this music, who

3501
03:27:49,879 --> 03:27:52,920
Speaker 1: still funk with it, but they don't find it like

3502
03:27:53,120 --> 03:27:56,120
Speaker 1: they used to because they got real life things that

3503
03:27:56,160 --> 03:27:58,080
Speaker 1: they're dealing with as opposed to when you're a teen.

3504
03:27:58,440 --> 03:28:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on this day for the new ship, right,

3505
03:28:01,720 --> 03:28:05,440
Speaker 1: different responsibilities, right, and the record companies in the radio

3506
03:28:05,520 --> 03:28:09,200
Speaker 1: stations ain't geared towards finding them. They're like this ship, right,

3507
03:28:09,280 --> 03:28:12,600
Speaker 1: here's what we've been doing, geared towards the teens. How

3508
03:28:12,640 --> 03:28:16,640
Speaker 1: do you connect fifty year old thirty thirty year old bands,

3509
03:28:16,720 --> 03:28:20,520
Speaker 1: fifty year old rappers, thirty year old bands, two teens

3510
03:28:21,000 --> 03:28:23,400
Speaker 1: like eighteen to thirty four? How do you connect that?

3511
03:28:23,800 --> 03:28:26,240
Speaker 1: They don't got the formula. That's why a lot of

3512
03:28:26,360 --> 03:28:30,240
Speaker 1: times groups in our time we don't get rotation from

3513
03:28:30,280 --> 03:28:33,040
Speaker 1: these radio stations. You could go up there for the

3514
03:28:33,160 --> 03:28:35,640
Speaker 1: interview and all that ship, and they're gonna play it

3515
03:28:35,760 --> 03:28:38,920
Speaker 1: that one time and when you leave, fuck you cool.

3516
03:28:38,959 --> 03:28:41,240
Speaker 1: It's good having them up here, but they're not rotating

3517
03:28:41,280 --> 03:28:43,640
Speaker 1: the record because they don't know how to connect with

3518
03:28:43,800 --> 03:28:47,160
Speaker 1: that base. But guess what is out there. It's out

3519
03:28:47,200 --> 03:28:49,280
Speaker 1: there because we who grew up to hip hop still

3520
03:28:49,360 --> 03:28:52,520
Speaker 1: listen to hip hop, new ship and old ship alike.

3521
03:28:53,200 --> 03:28:56,840
Speaker 1: Just these motherfucker's ain't figured out how to connect that together.

3522
03:28:57,400 --> 03:29:00,240
Speaker 1: So this is a young man's game. That's bull ship

3523
03:29:00,320 --> 03:29:01,760
Speaker 1: as long as you have it in you and you

3524
03:29:01,879 --> 03:29:04,560
Speaker 1: still have to passion. This is your game for as

3525
03:29:04,680 --> 03:29:07,400
Speaker 1: long as you want to funk with it. Look at

3526
03:29:07,520 --> 03:29:12,280
Speaker 1: KRS one and it's a creative man's or woman right,

3527
03:29:13,440 --> 03:29:15,800
Speaker 1: So you know all that young man's game. Ship is

3528
03:29:15,840 --> 03:29:18,320
Speaker 1: a false narrator. Yeah, it's it's it's it's yeah, I

3529
03:29:18,520 --> 03:29:21,880
Speaker 1: agree with you. The mainstream industry is what we're talking about.

3530
03:29:21,920 --> 03:29:24,880
Speaker 1: That's the young man's game, right, But that's it. But

3531
03:29:25,400 --> 03:29:29,600
Speaker 1: we've already that's obsolete. That industry is obsolete. It's been obsolete.

3532
03:29:30,240 --> 03:29:32,680
Speaker 1: When you guys are the national tour. It's the beginning

3533
03:29:33,040 --> 03:29:35,960
Speaker 1: of how that's obsolete. They say it's two things you

3534
03:29:36,000 --> 03:29:39,280
Speaker 1: should never workshop, money and youth because they all come

3535
03:29:39,320 --> 03:29:48,040
Speaker 1: and go choose that. That was deep up right, that

3536
03:29:52,520 --> 03:29:56,800
Speaker 1: what's next? What's next? You know, new experiences, you know

3537
03:29:56,840 --> 03:30:01,039
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like music, Really, we're gonna keep doing

3538
03:30:01,080 --> 03:30:03,120
Speaker 1: our thing, but we're trying to, you know, develop a

3539
03:30:03,160 --> 03:30:06,720
Speaker 1: new experience for people rather than just traditional albums because

3540
03:30:06,800 --> 03:30:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, hey, yeah it doesn't make sense anymore.

3541
03:30:10,480 --> 03:30:13,080
Speaker 1: So you know we've been talking about a different experience.

3542
03:30:13,240 --> 03:30:17,160
Speaker 1: So you know what we might do one last traditional

3543
03:30:17,240 --> 03:30:22,360
Speaker 1: album and then the rest is like who knows. Um

3544
03:30:23,400 --> 03:30:25,720
Speaker 1: could be n f T s, could be immersive, it

3545
03:30:25,800 --> 03:30:28,480
Speaker 1: could be something just something different, you know what I mean,

3546
03:30:28,480 --> 03:30:30,039
Speaker 1: Because I mean, we've been in this game a long

3547
03:30:30,160 --> 03:30:33,400
Speaker 1: time and like how do we stay interested? Right, there's

3548
03:30:33,440 --> 03:30:35,640
Speaker 1: got to be and we're always trying to be out

3549
03:30:35,720 --> 03:30:39,160
Speaker 1: of the box. So it's like challenging ourselves, what what

3550
03:30:39,360 --> 03:30:42,920
Speaker 1: can we do different to give to people than this

3551
03:30:43,120 --> 03:30:45,880
Speaker 1: traditional album ship. But you know what's important is that

3552
03:30:46,600 --> 03:30:51,000
Speaker 1: you guys have the opportunity to take advantage of the

3553
03:30:51,120 --> 03:30:55,240
Speaker 1: investment you put into the fans to be able to

3554
03:30:55,680 --> 03:30:58,800
Speaker 1: play with that world, that new world of that how

3555
03:30:58,840 --> 03:31:00,960
Speaker 1: do we do this because the fans will follow you.

3556
03:31:01,680 --> 03:31:03,920
Speaker 1: And that's an example that needs to be understood to

3557
03:31:04,080 --> 03:31:08,039
Speaker 1: anybody doing this and in this industry, like, you need

3558
03:31:08,120 --> 03:31:11,000
Speaker 1: to invest in your fans. That's right what I'm saying.

3559
03:31:11,040 --> 03:31:12,480
Speaker 1: And I think that what you guys have done, you

3560
03:31:12,600 --> 03:31:15,359
Speaker 1: invested in yourselves. That's right. And and you know, salute

3561
03:31:15,360 --> 03:31:17,360
Speaker 1: to our fans out there because they've held us up

3562
03:31:17,920 --> 03:31:21,320
Speaker 1: with new records and without. They've come to the shows

3563
03:31:21,360 --> 03:31:25,720
Speaker 1: and they've represented and they've been you know, the ones

3564
03:31:25,760 --> 03:31:29,480
Speaker 1: who like hold us up, you know when other motherfucker's

3565
03:31:29,560 --> 03:31:31,720
Speaker 1: counting us out. You know what I mean, Our fans

3566
03:31:32,160 --> 03:31:34,440
Speaker 1: who we do it for. You know, we're vessels of

3567
03:31:34,640 --> 03:31:38,000
Speaker 1: our creativity. Boom, it goes to the fans, they receive

3568
03:31:38,080 --> 03:31:43,280
Speaker 1: it and they hold us up. H Now, why did

3569
03:31:43,320 --> 03:31:46,080
Speaker 1: you stop smoking blunts? You know it was it was

3570
03:31:46,160 --> 03:31:48,080
Speaker 1: fucking with my voice a little bit. You know. We

3571
03:31:48,120 --> 03:31:50,240
Speaker 1: we had a run where we were doing a whole

3572
03:31:50,280 --> 03:31:55,160
Speaker 1: lot of Jack Daniels and blunts after before, before and

3573
03:31:55,280 --> 03:32:07,160
Speaker 1: after shows to try it. So what we were the

3574
03:32:07,280 --> 03:32:10,000
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels Crew, and you know, we were smoking blunts

3575
03:32:10,000 --> 03:32:12,240
Speaker 1: at the time. But every show, I was like sucking up.

3576
03:32:12,280 --> 03:32:14,200
Speaker 1: My voice had come back and it'd be hoarse, and

3577
03:32:14,360 --> 03:32:16,879
Speaker 1: like doing the next show, my voice would get worse

3578
03:32:16,959 --> 03:32:20,080
Speaker 1: and worse and worse. And and partially it was the

3579
03:32:20,120 --> 03:32:22,640
Speaker 1: blunts and the fucking whiskey, you know. And I and

3580
03:32:22,720 --> 03:32:26,160
Speaker 1: I changed up a lot of ship to keep my

3581
03:32:26,360 --> 03:32:29,280
Speaker 1: voice similar to what we do on the albums, because

3582
03:32:29,400 --> 03:32:31,480
Speaker 1: like that always bothered me as a fan, Like if

3583
03:32:31,520 --> 03:32:34,520
Speaker 1: I went to see someone and they they're screaming all

3584
03:32:34,600 --> 03:32:36,880
Speaker 1: over the place and they don't got no control and

3585
03:32:36,920 --> 03:32:39,040
Speaker 1: they don't sound shit like they do on the album,

3586
03:32:39,160 --> 03:32:42,160
Speaker 1: that bothers me. So I thought, like, if I was

3587
03:32:42,280 --> 03:32:44,880
Speaker 1: coming to see us, I want to hear me the

3588
03:32:44,959 --> 03:32:46,880
Speaker 1: way I am on the fucking album, So I'd like

3589
03:32:47,000 --> 03:32:49,360
Speaker 1: try to get control of that. Blunts was one of

3590
03:32:49,440 --> 03:32:55,160
Speaker 1: those things, and drinking the whiskey before the show was yeah,

3591
03:32:56,760 --> 03:33:05,600
Speaker 1: I got It's a combination in a singer, singer Rihanna, Yes,

3592
03:33:05,840 --> 03:33:12,440
Speaker 1: she suppos blust, Like where does this blust? There's no joint.

3593
03:33:12,520 --> 03:33:16,360
Speaker 1: But singing is different. You're you're it is, it's different

3594
03:33:16,440 --> 03:33:22,160
Speaker 1: your system. Yes, listen to break it down. F So

3595
03:33:22,320 --> 03:33:28,440
Speaker 1: they're sustaining notes, right, they're sustaining notes, lesser phrase right,

3596
03:33:28,480 --> 03:33:31,240
Speaker 1: in other words, lesser words in their phrases. Their verses

3597
03:33:31,280 --> 03:33:37,360
Speaker 1: are our six teen bars for a rap verse is

3598
03:33:37,440 --> 03:33:40,640
Speaker 1: their eight bar? You know what I mean? Understand me. So,

3599
03:33:41,360 --> 03:33:43,600
Speaker 1: like when they do their ship, it's it's it's not

3600
03:33:43,800 --> 03:33:47,040
Speaker 1: necessarily this that it's less work. It's not it's absolute work.

3601
03:33:47,080 --> 03:33:50,039
Speaker 1: They gotta stay in key. They gotta hold that pocket

3602
03:33:50,200 --> 03:33:54,480
Speaker 1: in what they do. But we are wrapping sixteen fucking bars.

3603
03:33:54,560 --> 03:33:57,640
Speaker 1: You know how many words are in sixteen bars? And

3604
03:33:57,720 --> 03:34:01,240
Speaker 1: then the breath pockets within those fucking bars. It's slightly

3605
03:34:02,000 --> 03:34:05,680
Speaker 1: a little more difficult. Now we don't gotta necessarily stay

3606
03:34:05,720 --> 03:34:08,160
Speaker 1: in key the way singers do. But we gotta stay

3607
03:34:08,200 --> 03:34:10,360
Speaker 1: on that beat. And he got a great argument, and

3608
03:34:10,440 --> 03:34:12,720
Speaker 1: we got a key one, and he gotta and we

3609
03:34:12,800 --> 03:34:16,560
Speaker 1: gotta keep our tone because like anyone can write a

3610
03:34:16,720 --> 03:34:20,440
Speaker 1: song and then like you know, put it out a

3611
03:34:20,560 --> 03:34:23,440
Speaker 1: certain way. But when you go performing, do you sound

3612
03:34:23,560 --> 03:34:28,800
Speaker 1: like that? And the blunts were yes, and blunts were

3613
03:34:28,879 --> 03:34:31,880
Speaker 1: working against that. For me, it kept on fucking cutting

3614
03:34:31,959 --> 03:34:35,080
Speaker 1: my voice scratchy, you know, raspy. I was starting to

3615
03:34:35,120 --> 03:34:37,080
Speaker 1: sound like bust the rhymes out there. Dog, you know

3616
03:34:37,080 --> 03:34:39,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's not the way I sound on records.

3617
03:34:40,360 --> 03:34:48,039
Speaker 1: So the whiskey man, both I got. Okay, Okay, okay, alright,

3618
03:34:49,920 --> 03:34:56,600
Speaker 1: what is that? Okay? Okay, okay, okay. Holy shit, man,

3619
03:34:56,680 --> 03:35:02,680
Speaker 1: this is great. And you know I love this ship man.

3620
03:35:02,760 --> 03:35:06,960
Speaker 1: I love this ship. I love this ship man. Yes, yes,

3621
03:35:07,080 --> 03:35:10,879
Speaker 1: I love I love. Um. You guys are always positive?

3622
03:35:12,320 --> 03:35:13,560
Speaker 1: Why you Why do you even got a little bit

3623
03:35:13,560 --> 03:35:19,800
Speaker 1: of negative juice? Because the negativity, uh has never scarred

3624
03:35:19,840 --> 03:35:23,760
Speaker 1: me as as bad as some people would would think

3625
03:35:23,959 --> 03:35:27,600
Speaker 1: it has. I mean since me and my brothers here,

3626
03:35:27,840 --> 03:35:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, we we built the thing up and it

3627
03:35:30,240 --> 03:35:35,240
Speaker 1: became successful. Um, it's kind of hard to be sour

3628
03:35:35,440 --> 03:35:38,120
Speaker 1: behind success, you know what I mean. You have to

3629
03:35:38,280 --> 03:35:40,600
Speaker 1: enjoy what you guys have built and what we've made

3630
03:35:40,879 --> 03:35:44,800
Speaker 1: with our lives and everything and now our families, you know,

3631
03:35:45,000 --> 03:35:47,920
Speaker 1: get to live, you know, a good life behind that.

3632
03:35:48,040 --> 03:35:51,920
Speaker 1: So I have no I have no fucking sarcasm or

3633
03:35:51,959 --> 03:35:54,720
Speaker 1: anything like that with Ship that we have done, because

3634
03:35:54,760 --> 03:35:57,280
Speaker 1: there's no need for that. You know. We get to

3635
03:35:57,360 --> 03:35:59,480
Speaker 1: make good money and to around the world and do

3636
03:35:59,600 --> 03:36:03,360
Speaker 1: what we of as teenagers, what we talked about, right,

3637
03:36:03,800 --> 03:36:07,800
Speaker 1: and then continue on forward. So don't I don't really

3638
03:36:07,840 --> 03:36:10,960
Speaker 1: have like a negative side of this past my my

3639
03:36:11,160 --> 03:36:17,440
Speaker 1: younger self, right, my adult self is completely fine. I'll

3640
03:36:17,480 --> 03:36:21,640
Speaker 1: say this six be real as opposed to be real.

3641
03:36:21,760 --> 03:36:26,600
Speaker 1: Two different like each other. You know, they with each other,

3642
03:36:26,680 --> 03:36:32,440
Speaker 1: but you don't sometimes, Yeah, they hung out. Yeah, I

3643
03:36:32,640 --> 03:36:39,840
Speaker 1: was was pretty much mad at the world that that. Like,

3644
03:36:40,680 --> 03:36:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, we were working on Temple Temple Boom at

3645
03:36:43,360 --> 03:36:45,680
Speaker 1: this time, and we were fucking mad at the world

3646
03:36:45,760 --> 03:36:48,360
Speaker 1: at that point. Like you know, Ship people counted us

3647
03:36:48,400 --> 03:36:51,400
Speaker 1: out on the third record. They thought we was done,

3648
03:36:51,480 --> 03:36:54,520
Speaker 1: and you know, Ship with Sony was kind of weird

3649
03:36:54,640 --> 03:36:57,080
Speaker 1: and management was kind of weird, and that was kind

3650
03:36:57,080 --> 03:36:59,560
Speaker 1: of at the time where Sandog sort of you know,

3651
03:37:00,360 --> 03:37:02,280
Speaker 1: dip for a minute, you know what I mean. And

3652
03:37:02,600 --> 03:37:05,480
Speaker 1: so it was it was a crazy time and I was,

3653
03:37:05,640 --> 03:37:09,680
Speaker 1: like Bobo could tell you I was. I was that guy,

3654
03:37:11,040 --> 03:37:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, asshole, asshole, whateverybody with everybody that, like, not

3655
03:37:20,240 --> 03:37:23,520
Speaker 1: the fans, but like, you know, yeah, man, I was

3656
03:37:23,640 --> 03:37:26,280
Speaker 1: just like on some funk everybody ship at that point,

3657
03:37:27,640 --> 03:37:31,240
Speaker 1: just no, no, no, no, not that. Yeah, you know,

3658
03:37:31,400 --> 03:37:33,760
Speaker 1: like because what the businesses, you know, like when you

3659
03:37:33,879 --> 03:37:35,440
Speaker 1: get in, you don't know what the funk it is.

3660
03:37:35,520 --> 03:37:37,960
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, ship, I'm in. And then as you

3661
03:37:38,160 --> 03:37:42,560
Speaker 1: learn what it is, and you learned from manager, managers, agents,

3662
03:37:42,640 --> 03:37:46,120
Speaker 1: fucking record company, motherfucker's and ship like that, and and

3663
03:37:46,280 --> 03:37:48,920
Speaker 1: just the game, and you know, it could get to

3664
03:37:49,000 --> 03:37:51,240
Speaker 1: you in the in the in the realm of like,

3665
03:37:51,480 --> 03:37:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, fuck this ship, this ship is fucking bullshit right,

3666
03:37:56,200 --> 03:38:00,560
Speaker 1: stop what motherfucker's think it is? Hence Rock Superstar, you

3667
03:38:00,600 --> 03:38:03,119
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And in nineties six, I was like, man,

3668
03:38:03,440 --> 03:38:05,480
Speaker 1: fuck all that. And I was drinking a lot of

3669
03:38:05,520 --> 03:38:09,560
Speaker 1: whiskey at that point and smoking the blunts and uh,

3670
03:38:09,760 --> 03:38:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, I just did not give a funk at

3671
03:38:12,000 --> 03:38:15,400
Speaker 1: that point. And you know, it wasn't that I was

3672
03:38:15,520 --> 03:38:17,840
Speaker 1: terrible to people, because I know I wasn't two fans,

3673
03:38:18,040 --> 03:38:22,160
Speaker 1: but like I was terrible in my fucking head. It

3674
03:38:22,320 --> 03:38:25,600
Speaker 1: was crazy, but we were doing well better than a

3675
03:38:25,680 --> 03:38:28,240
Speaker 1: lot of motherfucker's thought, you know, with that Temple of

3676
03:38:28,280 --> 03:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Boom album, is piste off as I was in that time,

3677
03:38:33,160 --> 03:38:36,320
Speaker 1: that ship was well received. You know when people thought

3678
03:38:36,360 --> 03:38:39,640
Speaker 1: we were gonna fall off, we were playing last We

3679
03:38:39,720 --> 03:38:43,040
Speaker 1: were playing that music on on Smoking Grooves tour and

3680
03:38:43,200 --> 03:38:45,880
Speaker 1: salute to carro Lewis for putting us on that tour

3681
03:38:45,959 --> 03:38:49,760
Speaker 1: at time. Um, we were playing that music before anybody

3682
03:38:49,840 --> 03:38:52,560
Speaker 1: had heard it. And this was not something that you

3683
03:38:52,720 --> 03:38:54,920
Speaker 1: did in hip hop when you were established. We were

3684
03:38:55,040 --> 03:38:59,240
Speaker 1: on that tour playing Temples of Boom music before anybody

3685
03:38:59,320 --> 03:39:02,400
Speaker 1: fucking heard it. In the reaction that we were getting

3686
03:39:03,160 --> 03:39:05,200
Speaker 1: was fucking awesome. Right was a Temple the book? Right?

3687
03:39:05,440 --> 03:39:08,720
Speaker 1: It was TEMpl Boom and you know that was that

3688
03:39:08,920 --> 03:39:11,760
Speaker 1: was satisfying to see people moving to ship they didn't

3689
03:39:11,800 --> 03:39:15,800
Speaker 1: even know, right, but in that time we were piste

3690
03:39:15,840 --> 03:39:19,560
Speaker 1: off so or I was definitely so seeing the people

3691
03:39:19,640 --> 03:39:22,480
Speaker 1: embraced that ship and that be one of the favorite

3692
03:39:22,560 --> 03:39:25,600
Speaker 1: albums when I was so piste off writing and that

3693
03:39:25,760 --> 03:39:30,240
Speaker 1: fucking time, Um, that was. That was satisfying because people

3694
03:39:30,280 --> 03:39:32,119
Speaker 1: connected to that album. You know a lot of people

3695
03:39:32,160 --> 03:39:33,720
Speaker 1: when they come up to us, they said that's their

3696
03:39:33,760 --> 03:39:37,000
Speaker 1: favorite album. Temples a Boom that was. That was that

3697
03:39:37,240 --> 03:39:40,800
Speaker 1: my height of funk everything, you know, but not out

3698
03:39:40,840 --> 03:39:44,920
Speaker 1: of cockiness, out of like, you know, tired of what

3699
03:39:45,200 --> 03:39:48,960
Speaker 1: what the game actually was? You guys been on plenty

3700
03:39:48,959 --> 03:39:51,600
Speaker 1: of labels. What what was your favorite label you guys

3701
03:39:51,680 --> 03:39:55,920
Speaker 1: ever worked with. Let's start with you Marks. I think

3702
03:39:55,959 --> 03:39:59,280
Speaker 1: we were Cypists on one label pretty much the whole

3703
03:39:59,360 --> 03:40:01,720
Speaker 1: first first run. I think we put the last record

3704
03:40:01,760 --> 03:40:05,640
Speaker 1: at like a second label. But for the first fifteen years,

3705
03:40:05,680 --> 03:40:08,360
Speaker 1: I think it was just Columbia. Yeah, it was Columbia

3706
03:40:08,520 --> 03:40:12,840
Speaker 1: for six teams. Columbia. Well, it was rough House Columbia

3707
03:40:12,959 --> 03:40:17,880
Speaker 1: for the first four albums, and then I think when

3708
03:40:18,840 --> 03:40:22,880
Speaker 1: rough House dissolved, we were just on Sony Columbia for

3709
03:40:23,000 --> 03:40:25,440
Speaker 1: that time. Then we finished our contract which a lot

3710
03:40:25,480 --> 03:40:29,880
Speaker 1: of Tommy and Tommy and Donnie both of them, and

3711
03:40:30,040 --> 03:40:32,520
Speaker 1: we we finished out our contract there, which a lot

3712
03:40:32,560 --> 03:40:35,959
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's don't do and we we uh, we did

3713
03:40:36,360 --> 03:40:38,720
Speaker 1: one album on E M I, which was Rise Up.

3714
03:40:39,080 --> 03:40:41,760
Speaker 1: Snoop wanted to sign that, so we you know, signed

3715
03:40:41,760 --> 03:40:44,840
Speaker 1: it with him, right, and so we did that and

3716
03:40:44,959 --> 03:40:47,000
Speaker 1: so in the next one was more like on an

3717
03:40:47,080 --> 03:40:52,000
Speaker 1: independent label, which was Elephants on Nason. So three labels

3718
03:40:52,720 --> 03:40:55,680
Speaker 1: pretty much but most of our career on Sony rough House,

3719
03:40:57,800 --> 03:41:03,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would, okay, you know, because realistically they

3720
03:41:03,879 --> 03:41:07,320
Speaker 1: could have tried to mold us into what they thought

3721
03:41:07,480 --> 03:41:09,600
Speaker 1: we should be, but they allowed us to be us,

3722
03:41:10,480 --> 03:41:12,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Sure, you know, they tried

3723
03:41:12,680 --> 03:41:15,119
Speaker 1: to make suggestions here and there, and you know, Mugs

3724
03:41:15,160 --> 03:41:18,000
Speaker 1: would be like, yeah, that's cool for you, We're gonna

3725
03:41:18,080 --> 03:41:21,040
Speaker 1: do this, and you know, he stood his ground on

3726
03:41:21,240 --> 03:41:23,480
Speaker 1: the creativity of it, and they allowed it. You know,

3727
03:41:23,520 --> 03:41:28,880
Speaker 1: they didn't try to you know that, Yeah, they were

3728
03:41:28,920 --> 03:41:33,920
Speaker 1: because they had a lot of dope groups House. Chris

3729
03:41:34,040 --> 03:41:36,520
Speaker 1: and Joe were big advocates for us, you know when

3730
03:41:36,560 --> 03:41:39,640
Speaker 1: it came to dealing with Sony, and you know, Joe

3731
03:41:39,840 --> 03:41:42,200
Speaker 1: was like he got it, man. I mean Joe and Chris,

3732
03:41:42,320 --> 03:41:46,039
Speaker 1: they both got it. And salute to them because realistically,

3733
03:41:46,200 --> 03:41:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, we we shopped the album around for a

3734
03:41:49,160 --> 03:41:51,720
Speaker 1: minute and we were getting turned down by labels on

3735
03:41:51,800 --> 03:41:55,000
Speaker 1: the West Coast. Uh and we and we uh. We

3736
03:41:55,120 --> 03:41:58,520
Speaker 1: were talking to funking client Rest and Rest in Peace,

3737
03:41:58,879 --> 03:42:00,840
Speaker 1: who was at the time with a Wood Basic and

3738
03:42:00,959 --> 03:42:04,080
Speaker 1: they were interested, but they kept asking for demo after demo.

3739
03:42:04,160 --> 03:42:08,280
Speaker 1: I think we gave him like six seven DeMoss like, yeah,

3740
03:42:08,560 --> 03:42:11,199
Speaker 1: that didn't make the album, but you know they kept

3741
03:42:11,240 --> 03:42:14,920
Speaker 1: asking for more Ship and rough House or Chris and

3742
03:42:15,040 --> 03:42:17,520
Speaker 1: Joe were like, we're ready now, We'll fucking take it

3743
03:42:17,640 --> 03:42:21,320
Speaker 1: as it is and sendalg called that shot and said,

3744
03:42:21,360 --> 03:42:23,440
Speaker 1: you know what we're going with Joe and Chris and

3745
03:42:24,879 --> 03:42:28,040
Speaker 1: they were they were basically crazy. Yeah, And I really

3746
03:42:28,120 --> 03:42:32,440
Speaker 1: liked their their whole approach to to our group because

3747
03:42:32,520 --> 03:42:35,160
Speaker 1: there was like, just do whatever you want to say,

3748
03:42:35,200 --> 03:42:39,120
Speaker 1: whatever you want. I felt like we had someone that

3749
03:42:39,280 --> 03:42:42,200
Speaker 1: was willing to like have our back no matter what

3750
03:42:42,640 --> 03:42:45,040
Speaker 1: he said on the mic or anything like that. So

3751
03:42:47,200 --> 03:42:50,320
Speaker 1: I really those those first couple of years, it was

3752
03:42:50,440 --> 03:42:53,760
Speaker 1: just Cyprus and rough House. We're you know, special time

3753
03:42:53,840 --> 03:42:58,480
Speaker 1: for me myself personally. Um, is there any plans like

3754
03:42:58,600 --> 03:43:02,360
Speaker 1: starting Cyper Sales record company and you guys trying to go,

3755
03:43:02,640 --> 03:43:06,720
Speaker 1: like find another Cyper Sales. It's always possible. I mean,

3756
03:43:06,800 --> 03:43:09,800
Speaker 1: Mugs is constantly on on the works, you know what

3757
03:43:09,840 --> 03:43:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, through through Soul Assassins, so you know, there's

3758
03:43:14,600 --> 03:43:17,200
Speaker 1: always Diamonds and the rough out there, man, you know

3759
03:43:17,240 --> 03:43:19,440
Speaker 1: what I mean. We were that once upon a time,

3760
03:43:20,480 --> 03:43:23,320
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, if you follow the direction of

3761
03:43:23,400 --> 03:43:27,960
Speaker 1: the producer right, because some of us as rappers have

3762
03:43:28,720 --> 03:43:32,160
Speaker 1: like egos and be like, whould like I'll just do

3763
03:43:32,720 --> 03:43:37,320
Speaker 1: let me do me. But if you follow the direction right,

3764
03:43:39,040 --> 03:43:41,760
Speaker 1: you might come up with something significant. I always followed

3765
03:43:41,800 --> 03:43:44,760
Speaker 1: the direction of Mugs and and and I learned through

3766
03:43:44,840 --> 03:43:48,160
Speaker 1: Mugs to follow directions of other producers. Now if they're

3767
03:43:48,240 --> 03:43:52,360
Speaker 1: letting me paint the picture and going on at my pace,

3768
03:43:52,520 --> 03:43:54,920
Speaker 1: then sure I know how to take that ship over

3769
03:43:54,959 --> 03:43:58,000
Speaker 1: because again I learned from this man right here. You

3770
03:43:58,040 --> 03:44:02,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And uh, you know, so it's

3771
03:44:02,680 --> 03:44:06,720
Speaker 1: important you put your ego aside, you know, because a

3772
03:44:06,800 --> 03:44:09,120
Speaker 1: lot of us will love our own ship like that,

3773
03:44:10,320 --> 03:44:12,640
Speaker 1: but we learned not to do that early, you know

3774
03:44:12,680 --> 03:44:15,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, if Mugs gave us this beat

3775
03:44:17,080 --> 03:44:20,120
Speaker 1: and we took that fucking beat home with us and

3776
03:44:20,360 --> 03:44:24,320
Speaker 1: fucking listened to it a thousand times, send dogging myself

3777
03:44:24,480 --> 03:44:26,120
Speaker 1: might fall in love with that ship. And then when

3778
03:44:26,240 --> 03:44:29,120
Speaker 1: Mugs changes something, we might be like, oh man, why

3779
03:44:29,200 --> 03:44:33,920
Speaker 1: did you change that? And then it creates a fucking dynamic.

3780
03:44:34,080 --> 03:44:37,360
Speaker 1: That's there's tension, and then chemistry is broken there, you

3781
03:44:37,400 --> 03:44:39,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But if we give trust into

3782
03:44:39,680 --> 03:44:43,280
Speaker 1: Mugs saying, like his name's on it, he's got the

3783
03:44:43,400 --> 03:44:48,320
Speaker 1: same the same want of it being fire as we do.

3784
03:44:48,520 --> 03:44:50,800
Speaker 1: He's not gonna put his name on something that's whacked

3785
03:44:51,440 --> 03:44:56,920
Speaker 1: or ship. So let's follow the direction and and like

3786
03:44:57,959 --> 03:45:00,400
Speaker 1: create something special, you know. So I learn to do

3787
03:45:00,640 --> 03:45:03,160
Speaker 1: that with mugs, and I did it with other producers

3788
03:45:03,240 --> 03:45:06,520
Speaker 1: if they had direction. If they didn't, I painted the campus,

3789
03:45:06,640 --> 03:45:09,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I think an artist

3790
03:45:09,440 --> 03:45:12,840
Speaker 1: if there, if they're being one thousand with themselves, follow

3791
03:45:12,920 --> 03:45:17,880
Speaker 1: the producer when producer gives you a direction, you know,

3792
03:45:18,040 --> 03:45:20,160
Speaker 1: Like that made it easy for me to be creative.

3793
03:45:20,200 --> 03:45:23,640
Speaker 1: When he had an idea for something. I hear this, Okay,

3794
03:45:24,560 --> 03:45:34,200
Speaker 1: let me paint that I think was great. So let

3795
03:45:34,240 --> 03:45:39,040
Speaker 1: me ask y'all Mount westmore right, I believe it's ice

3796
03:45:39,120 --> 03:45:45,160
Speaker 1: que sloop too short? Right? They say they're doing an album,

3797
03:45:45,200 --> 03:45:46,920
Speaker 1: but then now they're saying that they're doing a tour.

3798
03:45:47,920 --> 03:45:50,400
Speaker 1: Is there talks about including you guys in this took?

3799
03:45:50,680 --> 03:45:52,800
Speaker 1: Not that I've heard of, because that's what I heard.

3800
03:45:52,800 --> 03:45:55,240
Speaker 1: I heard that that that would be cool as funk.

3801
03:45:55,320 --> 03:45:57,520
Speaker 1: I could tell you, you know, if we went on

3802
03:46:00,280 --> 03:46:05,280
Speaker 1: at a y'all exhibit, what got the Plug. You got

3803
03:46:05,400 --> 03:46:21,680
Speaker 1: the Plugs exclusive drinks right now. Ah, you interested not

3804
03:46:21,760 --> 03:46:27,160
Speaker 1: a good airhord because just think about that Mount Westmore

3805
03:46:27,200 --> 03:46:32,280
Speaker 1: because those guys can do their four set. Then you know,

3806
03:46:33,160 --> 03:46:35,520
Speaker 1: I'd be amazing that all the West coast like that.

3807
03:46:36,240 --> 03:46:38,480
Speaker 1: I think that would be just crazy. Yeah. I don't

3808
03:46:38,480 --> 03:46:42,120
Speaker 1: know if it's true or not neither what I would

3809
03:46:42,200 --> 03:46:44,160
Speaker 1: I would say that that would that would be a

3810
03:46:44,240 --> 03:46:47,360
Speaker 1: fucking enormous show. That would makes sense because you got

3811
03:46:47,520 --> 03:46:50,920
Speaker 1: Titans as that group right there, the Mount Westmore. I mean,

3812
03:46:51,120 --> 03:46:54,560
Speaker 1: everybody is everybody, and you know we funk with all

3813
03:46:54,600 --> 03:46:56,440
Speaker 1: of them. You know, those are our brothers right there

3814
03:46:56,480 --> 03:46:58,680
Speaker 1: and Ship so you know, if we were called upon

3815
03:46:58,840 --> 03:47:02,240
Speaker 1: to play support for our bros, yeah, of course we

3816
03:47:02,320 --> 03:47:05,640
Speaker 1: would do that. If that rumor is true, hey celebrated

3817
03:47:05,640 --> 03:47:10,360
Speaker 1: because let's make that. Lets everyone we don't love about that?

3818
03:47:10,680 --> 03:47:13,760
Speaker 1: Love I love about you guys. Is I love O

3819
03:47:13,959 --> 03:47:16,680
Speaker 1: g s being o gs Like I don't like when

3820
03:47:16,760 --> 03:47:20,759
Speaker 1: you know, people, you know, trying to copy the new sound,

3821
03:47:21,280 --> 03:47:24,560
Speaker 1: the new style. I like us being, you know, acting

3822
03:47:24,640 --> 03:47:26,240
Speaker 1: our own age, like you know what I'm saying. That's

3823
03:47:26,240 --> 03:47:28,440
Speaker 1: why I love this. I love this and that we

3824
03:47:28,480 --> 03:47:30,800
Speaker 1: could be cool at the ages we had like I don't.

3825
03:47:30,840 --> 03:47:33,640
Speaker 1: I don't gotta be you know, I don't gotta be too.

3826
03:47:34,000 --> 03:47:39,840
Speaker 1: I gotta be doing that. That's the floor, Like I

3827
03:47:39,959 --> 03:47:46,920
Speaker 1: can't do that. I can't. I'm glad, you know we

3828
03:47:47,080 --> 03:47:50,920
Speaker 1: have our own platforms big up to rock the bells. Also,

3829
03:47:51,840 --> 03:47:54,480
Speaker 1: we could be ourselves. We don't have to, you know,

3830
03:47:54,560 --> 03:47:58,920
Speaker 1: try to get to this saying. I feel like we

3831
03:47:59,000 --> 03:48:02,440
Speaker 1: started it from drink chance, but you know part of it, um,

3832
03:48:02,520 --> 03:48:04,800
Speaker 1: And I just want to salute you all one more time. Man,

3833
03:48:05,160 --> 03:48:07,920
Speaker 1: you guys are living legends in a lot of ways.

3834
03:48:08,080 --> 03:48:10,080
Speaker 1: You know, you paid your way for both of us.

3835
03:48:10,400 --> 03:48:12,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, us getting to see like

3836
03:48:12,200 --> 03:48:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, because because it was crazy, you know, me

3837
03:48:15,360 --> 03:48:17,200
Speaker 1: being born and raised in New York City, I only

3838
03:48:17,240 --> 03:48:19,440
Speaker 1: thought it was Puerto Ricans. I didn't know it was

3839
03:48:19,600 --> 03:48:26,560
Speaker 1: like I was in Americans. I was like, what Mexicans.

3840
03:48:26,600 --> 03:48:29,160
Speaker 1: And then to see people on on on TV on

3841
03:48:29,600 --> 03:48:31,920
Speaker 1: my video music box, and to see it and and

3842
03:48:32,280 --> 03:48:34,320
Speaker 1: then and you know, you got split in the you

3843
03:48:34,440 --> 03:48:37,800
Speaker 1: got to speaking about Latin lingo, but um, you gots

3844
03:48:38,040 --> 03:48:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, saying the Spanish and I'm sitting there and

3845
03:48:40,200 --> 03:48:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy shit, this is it was Latinos everywhere

3846
03:48:44,280 --> 03:48:46,080
Speaker 1: and I had not known that that. That was crazy.

3847
03:48:46,160 --> 03:48:50,920
Speaker 1: Y'all was like my geographical map back then. Why I

3848
03:48:50,959 --> 03:48:52,560
Speaker 1: didn'tn't know how to be the map. But what I'm saying,

3849
03:48:52,560 --> 03:48:54,760
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, these people could be from over

3850
03:48:54,879 --> 03:49:06,840
Speaker 1: there too, and we're not just a funny look like yeah,

3851
03:49:07,680 --> 03:49:11,160
Speaker 1: I was just like I just got it was my block.

3852
03:49:11,280 --> 03:49:13,960
Speaker 1: Like they literally called me poppy because I was the

3853
03:49:14,120 --> 03:49:17,560
Speaker 1: only Latino that I was. You know, it's racist, by

3854
03:49:17,560 --> 03:49:24,320
Speaker 1: the way, just like and then I realized, and then

3855
03:49:24,360 --> 03:49:26,520
Speaker 1: I would't want to say that to y'all. You know, um,

3856
03:49:27,120 --> 03:49:29,360
Speaker 1: and I think we yester on one more shot. But

3857
03:49:30,880 --> 03:49:32,240
Speaker 1: I want to say to y'all, man, that was a

3858
03:49:32,280 --> 03:49:38,560
Speaker 1: big inspiration. Um, that was big motivation. It was so man,

3859
03:49:39,040 --> 03:49:41,480
Speaker 1: it's so dope. And like I said, it wasn't it's

3860
03:49:41,480 --> 03:49:44,160
Speaker 1: not only that, you know, for for for me to

3861
03:49:44,200 --> 03:49:46,040
Speaker 1: look up to you guys, for me to meet you guys,

3862
03:49:46,480 --> 03:49:48,040
Speaker 1: and you guys to be the same exactly where you

3863
03:49:48,120 --> 03:49:50,320
Speaker 1: guys be real as fun, you guys be you know

3864
03:49:50,360 --> 03:49:54,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like like just always being uh the

3865
03:49:54,800 --> 03:49:57,120
Speaker 1: figure that I've seen because I used to meet people

3866
03:49:57,560 --> 03:49:58,960
Speaker 1: used to look up to and then I meet him,

3867
03:49:58,960 --> 03:50:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I funk, it's as a prick. And you

3868
03:50:02,360 --> 03:50:04,960
Speaker 1: guys are really that you guys are really and you

3869
03:50:05,040 --> 03:50:07,320
Speaker 1: guys held it down together thirty years. Man. You know

3870
03:50:07,360 --> 03:50:09,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's something to really be proud of.

3871
03:50:09,800 --> 03:50:11,800
Speaker 1: That's something that really and we want to salute you.

3872
03:50:11,840 --> 03:50:13,680
Speaker 1: We want to give your flowers please, and you got

3873
03:50:13,720 --> 03:50:16,640
Speaker 1: your shirt. We gotta sch got your shirts too. Yeah,

3874
03:50:16,920 --> 03:50:20,840
Speaker 1: every one of you got shirts. But listen, I want

3875
03:50:20,880 --> 03:50:22,960
Speaker 1: to tell y'all, man, thank you all for what y'all did.

3876
03:50:23,280 --> 03:50:25,520
Speaker 1: Thank you all for what your sacrifice, thank you all

3877
03:50:25,560 --> 03:50:27,840
Speaker 1: for leaving the way, thank you all for being leaders,

3878
03:50:28,160 --> 03:50:31,000
Speaker 1: thank you all for motherfucking being who the fuck y'all are.

3879
03:50:31,360 --> 03:50:33,320
Speaker 1: And you know, one time for your mind, to time

3880
03:50:33,360 --> 03:50:39,880
Speaker 1: for your soul like but man, you know, motherfucker like

3881
03:50:46,640 --> 03:50:54,160
Speaker 1: pictures some problem. Thanks for joining us for another episode

3882
03:50:54,160 --> 03:50:56,560
Speaker 1: of Drink Champs hosted by yours truly, d J E

3883
03:50:56,720 --> 03:50:59,360
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3884
03:50:59,440 --> 03:51:01,920
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3885
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3887
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3888
03:51:12,760 --> 03:51:15,600
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3889
03:51:15,760 --> 03:51:25,240
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