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Speaker 1: What's that at bed?

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Speaker 2: It's spooky?

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Speaker 1: Hey, juky, I'm really sure it's dead. He's coming this way.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I'm nandas.

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Speaker 3: Pllease Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted

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Speaker 3: by Roz Hernandez, the podcast that makes me go the.

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Speaker 1: Weather outside is frightful, bitch, your stories are frightful. Happy

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Speaker 1: holidays everyone, Hey, I should tell you right off the

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Speaker 1: top that we will be taking off next week and

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Speaker 1: don't kill me also the next week because it will

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Speaker 1: be Christmas and then New Year's Day, and so we

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Speaker 1: will be back on the eighth of January. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, because it's the holidays, I'll give you a

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Speaker 1: little gift. I'll tell you who my guest is, Margaret Joe.

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Speaker 1: Margaret Show is back on the show, so look forward

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Speaker 1: to that in the new year. On the eighth of January.

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Speaker 1: Still not too late to get some Christmas holiday presence from.

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Speaker 2: Me, Roz.

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Speaker 1: You can get a cameo which is at cameo dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Raz Hernandez, and I'll give you a nice

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Speaker 1: little special gift of a video, you know, say whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. And our sweaters, the sweatshirts, Oh they're flying

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Speaker 1: off the racks. Make sure you're getting the exactly right

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Speaker 1: ghosted sweatshirts. The link for that is in the instagram,

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Speaker 1: which is ghosts did by Roz. Or you could just

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Speaker 1: go to exactly Right's merch website and get them there.

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Speaker 1: They're so cute. Also, I'm selling polaroids on my Instagram. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got to talk to Chris Fleming, who is absolutely hilarious.

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Speaker 1: We had the time of our lives. We get into

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Speaker 1: a cryptid story that was a real doozy. But before

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Speaker 1: we get to that, let me read you a story.

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Speaker 1: This one comes from Reb Reb from Saint Louis. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Reb sent me a few, but here's one that took

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Speaker 1: place in Saint George, Utah. So Reb is at a random,

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Speaker 1: cheap Wyndham hotel with their father who had come to visit. Now,

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Speaker 1: it says, Utah surprisingly one of the prettiest places as

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Speaker 1: long as you avoid most of downtown Salt Lake City. Okay, interesting,

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Speaker 1: I do love Utah. By the way, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it feels like you're completely on another plan. It's cool.

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Speaker 1: So they write, I do the van life thing and

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Speaker 1: I was getting cold out so I stayed in the

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Speaker 1: Every night while we slept, the TV would turn on

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Speaker 1: by itself. At first, we assumed it was some technical issue.

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Speaker 1: So after a couple of nights of this happening, I

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Speaker 1: decided to be clever and turn the volume all the

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Speaker 1: wouldn't scare the crap out of us. That same night,

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Speaker 1: the TV turns on again, but at full volume. Now

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Speaker 1: we're really freaked out, but what can we do. We

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Speaker 1: turn it off again and try to sleep. Eventually we

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Speaker 1: throw the remote into a and that stopped it. Does

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Speaker 1: So we solved the TV problem. But now the room

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Speaker 1: is so quiet. It is too quiet. I felt a

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Speaker 1: I was terrified, frozen in fear. I prayed frantically, hoping

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Speaker 1: few years, so I don't know what order all this happened,

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Speaker 1: It freaked him out, but he's a good dad, and

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Speaker 1: to stay in the hotel. I'm in the room by myself.

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Speaker 1: The room is dark, and I'm trying to fall asleep.

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Speaker 1: curled up tight in the fetal position, absolutely terrifying, praying

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Speaker 1: again until I passed out. I had never experienced anything

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Speaker 1: like that. Rab Oh my god. Okay, First of all,

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Speaker 1: but I'm so glad you stayed and lived to tell

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Speaker 1: the tale, and now I get to share it with

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Speaker 1: the rest of us. Thank you. Okay, it is time

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Speaker 1: for me to talk to the one and only hilarious

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Speaker 1: Chris Fleming and with the show. Oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: am joined by an icon of bangs with glasses. Chris Fleming, Hello.

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Speaker 2: With big glasses. We both have big glasses and bangs.

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Speaker 1: I have my comically large comedy prop glasses that do

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Speaker 1: have a prescription. But they they definitely I hope helped

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we lead with our glasses, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, glasses and bangs.

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Speaker 2: People lead with their hips, people lead with their you know,

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Speaker 2: our banks. Yeah, my bangs are too long. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: a little bit like a nineties soccer player these days,

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Speaker 2: you know when they grow out and they're kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: They're never ending, they really, they really are a commitment.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And when you say icon, I mean you just

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Speaker 2: had Christian Stewart on. I feel like, how can we even?

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Speaker 2: I can't. It's probably the first podcast Christen Stewart's ever done, right.

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Speaker 1: She has not done many. And yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: major honor to have on. Kristen. That was sort of

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Speaker 2: Totally. I saw that. I was like, god, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it's just insane.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know her, she's she produces the TV show

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Speaker 1: I'm on and she's awesome, and I've been ghost hunting

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Speaker 2: You've been you've interacted with the with the Paranormal Realm

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Speaker 2: with Kristen Stewart. Yes, I have.

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Speaker 1: So that's who the fuck you're talking to.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, okay, yeah, but that is so cool.

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Speaker 1: I am a huge fan of yours and I am

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Speaker 1: so excited that you've joined me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I do have to ask right off the top, are

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Speaker 2: Not only am I aware, well, yeah, my dad was

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Speaker 2: following him on Twitter thinking it was me for about

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Speaker 2: a decade, and so my dad would like be like, Chris, Chris,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you're going on a ghost hunt

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Speaker 2: in Scotland, Chris. You know it'd be a seriously shit

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Speaker 2: other's We still do a lot of each other's like

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Speaker 2: in Chicago and we had like a in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: right before the pandemic, and we had like the loveliest

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Speaker 2: like I don't know if you've ever met someone with

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Speaker 2: it didn't feel like me, maybe I'm Dumbe, but it

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Speaker 2: felt like meeting a twin right right, Like there was

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Speaker 2: some kind of like I had my arm, don't I

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Speaker 2: don't like touching people usually, but I had my arm

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Speaker 2: hunter Chris Fleming, because he was well he's also so charming.

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Speaker 1: Did he read you?

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Speaker 2: No, No, we just we just had a lot of mohitos.

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Speaker 2: We did. We sat up very late, and no, I

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Speaker 2: some stories. Again. This was like right before the pandem,

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Speaker 2: you know how like everything like you know how like

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Speaker 1: Oh of course, just yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: God, did you interact with him ever?

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Speaker 1: Never? I don't smoke weed, but I know a thing

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Speaker 1: people say is like dream blunt rotation Chris Fleming and

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Speaker 1: the television psychic Chris Fleming.

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Speaker 2: Dream mohito rotations sometimes too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is iconic. I actually really like him because

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Speaker 1: he's on this show that I watch called How My

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Speaker 1: House Is Haunted?

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: I thought that's who we had booked today, so I know,

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Speaker 2: I know I could see in your eyes when I

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Speaker 1: So that's all I've prepared, So I hope it's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to continue with everything I've prepared.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's totally cool. I'm just going to paint my nails.

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Speaker 1: When did you know you were a psychic?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's all I have prepared. Yeah, I do,

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Speaker 1: I do have something prepared. Chris fl kindergarten, kindergarten, that question,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris Fleming the psychic related I do. I

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Speaker 1: do have an article I found about your friend. This

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of his.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, he is he being dragged? No?

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Speaker 1: Not actually no, it's actually just like kind of a

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Speaker 1: weird funny story. I guess. It says psychic. This is

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Speaker 1: from Daily Record dot co dot uk. It says psychic.

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Speaker 1: Chris Fleming claims that a ghost violated him on Haunted

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Speaker 1: Scott's prison visit. So he was he do you know

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Speaker 2: I do know about this.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I'm laughing.

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Speaker 2: saw that we never talked about it or anything. I

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Speaker 2: just saw him say that he was violated by a ghost.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I don't I'm not trying to laugh at at

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Speaker 1: a very serious thing. But yes, I just have never

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, So it was a ghost doctor. So

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a malicious thing. It was just like the

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Speaker 1: Like next, yeah, and then it says this is his quote.

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Speaker 1: We were in the room listening to a guide telling

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Speaker 1: You see a doctor who puts a glove on and

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Speaker 1: are times when people have been sexually violated by demonic entities.

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Speaker 1: That obviously popped into my head. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: I have, I have, but I've never but that's never

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Speaker 1: Well, you reminded me of some trauma that I have.

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Speaker 2: Jim Henson is one of the one of the most

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00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: media thrilling experiences I've had.

436
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: Well cut to me in Universal Studios, Florida on vacation. Oh,

437
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: they say, oh, We're going to show you where they

438
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: make Eureka's Castle, and so I peek in and I

439
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: see Eureka with her head hanging off.

440
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, And they're like, there's like a

441
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: soldering eye, there's a guy with guys with welding helmets on,

442
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, that you don't want to see that.

443
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 2: You don't want to see how that sausage is made

444
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: when you're a child.

445
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: I saw how Eureka's sausage was made, and it really

446
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: messed me up.

447
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad to meet at least

448
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: another supporter of Eureka. And then there's not a lot

449
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: of us out there that did you continue to be

450
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: a supporter even after you saw that.

451
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: I think I did, but I never looked at her

452
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: the same again, m hm. I knew that there was

453
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: a man with his hand under her dress the whole

454
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: time after that. I didn't know that.

455
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: Before there was definitely a man that the dragon was

456
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: definitely just a guy, a guy walking right, because that

457
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: thing was like at least six six or seven feet tall.

458
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: Probably Magellan, great character.

459
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: Speaking of dragon like creatures, I did a little bit

460
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: of research and I want to tell you about a

461
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: cryptid creature. How do you feel about these cryptids?

462
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: Oh? Love them, love them?

463
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite cryptid?

464
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: Is the haunted horseman considered a cryptis? Oh?

465
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: Interesting headless horse. No, that's more of a ghost story.

466
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: I sort of a ghost story. I mean, I guess

467
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: cryptids what like Bigfoot and all that stuff. I don't

468
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,959
Speaker 2: know enough enough. I just love when they're all when

469
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: they're all lanky, when they're moving fast right right. Well,

470
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: I like an urban cryptid, like someone that you see

471
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: on like the roof of a of like a skyscraper

472
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: and Cleveland. You know that that's the most that's the

473
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: most fun. When there's like when there's like a crypton

474
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: on top of the rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

475
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: That's something I can get behind.

476
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: Has that happened?

477
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't think yet. But there are urban cryptives.

478
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: I do know that, okay, and I assume that's what

479
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: it means.

480
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's you'll hear sometimes about like these creatures that

481
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: live under the city and.

482
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: A guy working at the cheesecake factory.

483
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well here's one that is that comes from

484
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: the South. And I mean, if you didn't believe in

485
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: cryptis before, this one will do it for you. This

486
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: is the story of the Lizard Man of Scape or swamp.

487
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: Yep, lay it on me.

488
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Okay. So most of my research comes from discovers South

489
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: Carolina dot com and also South Carolina Public Radio dot org.

490
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean most of your research in general comes

491
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: for everything. Yeah.

492
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: So this story it took place just outside of Bishopville,

493
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: South Carolina, in an area called Browntown.

494
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: Have you ever been the middle schools? Name this town?

495
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: All right, we'll give you one name like the middle

496
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: school does. Well, okay, you know, well in your task

497
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: you can name one town town.

498
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: It's not even like I no, I don't know if

499
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: they say it like Brownton or something, but it's special.

500
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: They do Browntown one, sure, Yeah, yeah.

501
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: So I think I've been to Browntown. I'm not sure.

502
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: I mean it's twenty twenty three. I hope you've been

503
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: to Browntown at.

504
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: Least once in your life. You gotta go to Browntown.

505
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: So in nineteen eighty seven, from my research, the first

506
00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: known sighting was by a cyclist who was out some

507
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: exercise and they pulled over to a natural well to

508
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: have a drink of water and smoke a cigarette, and

509
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: they look up and they see a large humanoid figure

510
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: across the street. But probably like the most famous sighting.

511
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: It could just be a mix of like doing something

512
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: so good for your body and then something is so

513
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: bad for your body that it just kind of creates,

514
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: like drinking from a natural spring and then smoking hitting

515
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: the cigy some kind of hallucination. It's gonna make you

516
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: see a crypt it's gonna make you see like a

517
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: guy made out of radishes, kind of running in like

518
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: an aeropostyle hat sprinting, sprinting down the street at forty

519
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: five hours per hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't trust

520
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: biking bikers. I don't trust CycL cyclic I'm like, that

521
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: is one thing where I understand, like the grumpy old

522
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: man thing of like.

523
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: Get out of the street, that kind of thing. Yeah, guys,

524
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: but I mean they're helping the environment unless they're smoking.

525
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: They're helping him. Yeah, unless they're smoking. Okay, Okay, what's

526
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: the what's the other what's the other brown town sighting?

527
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: Oh? This other one. This was the early hours of

528
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: June twenty ninth, nineteen eighty eight. A seventeen year old

529
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: boy named Christopher Davis was driving home from.

530
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: Work beautiful name near scape.

531
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: Or swamp when he blows a tire. He goes out

532
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: to fix it and he hears someone running toward him.

533
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: He sees a creature with red eyes, scaly skin, long

534
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: black claws with three fingers, around seven feet tall that

535
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: appeared wet. He jumps into his car for safety, and

536
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: the lizard man attacks his car, ripping off the mirror

537
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: and tearing up the roof. Oh now, honestly, I think

538
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: I think he just fucked up his car and needed

539
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: a good story, or he got caught cheating. And he

540
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: was dating a young Carrie Underwood, and she dug the

541
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: key into the.

542
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: Side and yeah, took the bat to the right.

543
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: But to give it a little bit more validity. He

544
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: did do a sketch that he presented I believe to

545
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: police and gehaw, could you throw up this sketch for

546
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: anybody listening. You can, I'll post this on our Instagram

547
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: at ghosted by Roz There it is. This is the photo.

548
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a I was buying it until I saw

549
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: the sketch. Now, he might just be a horrible artist,

550
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: but yeah, if you gave me ten seconds to bullshit ENCRYPTID,

551
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: this is what I would This is what I would do.

552
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: That's another thing is like, you know, it's like it's

553
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: like movies with aliens, Like why can't an alien just

554
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: be like a cube once in a while? Like why

555
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: does it always just look like like that?

556
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: Because it's what they really look like.

557
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: No, you're right that You're okay, So that makes me more.

558
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: I think it helps the case that they always look

559
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: the same.

560
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: That is a really good point. That is a really

561
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: good point.

562
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: Picture it looks kind of like an alien. He forgot

563
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: to draw the feet. Yeah, you know, it's not a

564
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: great drip.

565
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't see the feet. He probably didn't see

566
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: the feet. Oh I don't really unless he's a fook guy.

567
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: He's not going to be you know, glancing at the

568
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: at those dogs right right, He's going to be looking

569
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: more at the claws and more at you know, the scales.

570
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: And you know what sold for me the fact that

571
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: it was wet, because unless this guy was like a

572
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: creative writing major, you know, at like U Dubs or

573
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: something like, he's not going to come up with that.

574
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: He's not going to be thrown around wet. This is

575
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: just this is just a civilian in Brown Town. So

576
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: I completely And the fact that his car was you

577
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: say it was scratched up.

578
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was legitimately like it looked like it was

579
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: trying to get into the roof of the car, like

580
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: smashing it in.

581
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: So unless he went driving through the briar patch, you know,

582
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: I I believe that this wait was it say underneath

583
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: the pie it.

584
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Says the picture of what attacked attack Christopher Davis, and

585
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: then Christopher Davis signed it.

586
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: And then he signs it it's beautiful, beautiful signature.

587
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's really a great piece here. Yeah, so

588
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, he also could have maybe flipped his car

589
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: and that's why the ceiling or the.

590
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: Roof was looked like a lizard had gotten to it.

591
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: But okay, so anyway.

592
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: So a crypto. The difference between a cryptid and a

593
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: ghost is cryptids are on our like they're they're like

594
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: matter right that They're like you could you could hold

595
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: onto a cryptid. You could share a bed with a cryptid.

596
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: You could. But nobody ever has.

597
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: The Grimace is a cryptid and.

598
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: Is a great cryptis.

599
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 2: Yes, the rest of the gang are paranormal.

600
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: Although Grimace has been captured on film many times and

601
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: most of these have not. Okay, right, right, right right,

602
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: But listen, because I am somebody with a very open mind,

603
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: I do like to entertain the thought that these magical

604
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: creatures are not just like animals that haven't been discovered.

605
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: They can go invisible like a ghost, or they can

606
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: teleport to another plant. I don't know, I don't know.

607
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: They have like incredible vertical leap where you don't even

608
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: have to run, like you could.

609
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: Just whatever it is, it is very superhuman and beyond

610
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: our comprehension.

611
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: Some of my fan base has described me as as

612
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: a as a cryptid.

613
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: Okay, so back to the story. Two weeks crypt Two

614
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: weeks after the incident with Christopher, a report of a

615
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: car parked at a home had its fender ripped off.

616
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: It looked like it was chewed off.

617
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: Here we go.

618
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: The antenna was bent, remember antennas on cars. There were

619
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: deep scratches in the car and the chrome trim also

620
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: appeared to be chewed off.

621
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: Suspicious Oh completely, So this is this is a car

622
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: scratch encryptid in chewing.

623
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really know what its motivations are.

624
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: Maybe it eats cars like I. Honestly, I don't know

625
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: he or she is a car eater. Well that's the thing.

626
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: They do, call it the lizard man. And I know

627
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: it was a different time, but couldn't he have stopped

628
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: and asked the pronouns?

629
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: Honestly, the behavior is pretty male what you're describing. I

630
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: think that, you know, eat eating a fender.

631
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: One of the most masculine things I've ever heard.

632
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: Actually me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's very, very,

633
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: very mask So I assume the Yeah, I understand the assumption.

634
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: That same summer there was many cars or many calls

635
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: that were made of cars being attacked, and police apparently

636
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: made a plaster mold of a three toed footprint. Okay,

637
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: and then the summer ended and it was done. It

638
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: was that was it. And over the years there was

639
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: a few little reports here and there. But then in

640
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, a woman took a photo that she claimed

641
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: was the lizard Man here we go, on her way

642
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: home from church on her cell phone. Jiha, can you

643
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: pull up this picture? This will also be on our

644
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: Instagram under episode stuff, which is a story highlight on

645
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: the page there.

646
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: It is.

647
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: This woman, Sarah believes that she had captured the lizard

648
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Man of what is it? Swamp snake or swamp what's

649
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: it called.

650
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: I went to a Halloween party and there was a

651
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 2: nice older gay couple there that just moved to town

652
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: from Houston, and one of them was wearing this, I'm

653
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: telling you, was this is exactly the costume that this

654
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: man was wearing at this Halloween party. Yeah, like a

655
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: ripped like a slee stack, like a ripped slee stack.

656
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's the thing he does. Maybe maybe he

657
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: was in Brown Town. Maybe this older gay man was

658
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: he older? Did I just make that part up?

659
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: No? No, no, yeah he was, he was. This is

660
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: so funny, this picture. This is like because there's no

661
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: way in hell that that this scrypt it is going

662
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: is moving through the world not being perfectly photographed and

663
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: felt like this is so this This lizard is completely yoked.

664
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it is so buff.

665
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: He has no he's so buffed that he has no

666
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: flexibility in his neck, so his face is pointing forward

667
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 2: at all times. He can barely move his upper body.

668
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: This there's no way this guy is escaping any camera

669
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: in the modern age.

670
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: He looks like he would eat chrome fenders.

671
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: See that's true. He does look like he lives off

672
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: of subsists off of Mazda offenders and Honda Cord. It

673
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: does look like he needs that.

674
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. So oh and anyone that's just listening, it's basically

675
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: just a very buff looking I mean it looks like

676
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: it's from It looks like it's from like a nineties

677
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: Land of the Loss Power Rangers or yeah, exactly some

678
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: kind of man in a suit situation or was it real?

679
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

680
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: Well, this is certainly like you could rent this costume

681
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: from a party city in the Midwest, you know, this

682
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: is this is this is like it. But but why

683
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: would they have it? Why would this costume exist? I

684
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: guess it's But what.

685
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: Is strange is that a day earlier there was a

686
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: man that also reported seeing what look like an alligator

687
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: with a short nose and long legs scampering in the area.

688
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: This would be a good opportunity to make like a

689
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: that was my ex wife kind of a joke. Oh,

690
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: it was my ex wife and town.

691
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: Sounds like my mother in law.

692
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to do that, but I wish.

693
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to. It's just part of the rules.

694
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: A third person could do that. Isn't this interesting about?

695
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: Like this is funny? This image is funny because the

696
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: lizard is jacked. Why is it scarier if something is skinny?

697
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Like why this lizard could do more damage than a

698
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: skinny like more physical harm most likely than a skinny thing,

699
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: but a skinny thing does more psychological creates, more a

700
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: climate of fear for me. What's that all about?

701
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: Oh, isn't that interesting? Maybe because it's closer to a

702
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: skeleton and skeletons are scary.

703
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: Hmmm mm hmmm. And maybe now like in the modern age,

704
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: like very few of us have like actually, like we're

705
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: not really afraid of predators, you know, like like the

706
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: size of something doesn't really I mean like I mean,

707
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 2: like a t rex or something. When I say predator,

708
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: I don't mean like, of course there's predators, but I

709
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: mean like a I mean like a like a vicious

710
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: something large that could do damage. It's almost like something

711
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: skinny like getting in your chimney or something is almost worse.

712
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, Yeah, I don't know. It's like

713
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: there's something just so creepy about like a slender man

714
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: or something right right, right, because it seems like it

715
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: has powers or something. And this just looks like some

716
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: like super buff, agro looking guy like, oh, shut up, Like.

717
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: Like maybe it's right, like this guy would he would

718
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: find a community, you know, maybe there's something scarier about

719
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: like a giant, skinny thing in the woods. Like what's

720
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: he up to? Like he this guy is going to

721
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: go to the Equinox and exchange numbers on Bay one

722
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: with some guys. Oh you know for sure, the skinny

723
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: one who's seven foot tall in the woods, that's going

724
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: to be that's going to be maybe a longer journey to.

725
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: So that's someone that that's kind of scarier. What's he

726
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: up to?

727
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you doing out there? It's like a yeah,

728
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: weird emo teenager exactly. I get that, well, okay.

729
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: So the lizard Man of Swamps, the Lizard Gabe or

730
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: swamp Scape or swamp yeah from brown Town.

731
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: Okay, we do a segment here. I love that on

732
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: the show where I like to look up dolls that

733
00:41:54,320 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: are currently being sold on eBay, great that are allegedly haunted. Okay,

734
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: it's time for a segment I like to call the

735
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: dolls are living?

736
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: Does that make them cheaper or more expensive?

737
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I've seen thousands in my day, and to

738
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: me personally, when they're cheaper, it seems more legit. But

739
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't know they I've seen them for literally fifty thousand.

740
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: I've seen them for one dollar, so they really run

741
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: the whole gamut.

742
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: But if it's haunted by a nuisance, you know that's

743
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: going to be the dollar. If it's haunted by you

744
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: would think fdr Okay.

745
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: You would think yes, yeah, there is which reminds me.

746
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: I forget if we've ever talked about this on the

747
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: TV show or on the podcast. There is a TV

748
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: commercial from the eighties that's one of those like one

749
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: eight hundred psychic commercials, and it's to find out what

750
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: celebrity is in your pet. No, this is like pre

751
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: miss Cleo. But it's specifically to find out what celebrities

752
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: are in your pets, and.

753
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: Because as we know, every pet is a is a

754
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: composite of different celebrities.

755
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like which historical figure is inside of your

756
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: pet as a ghost?

757
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: Which?

758
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: I want that job so bad?

759
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: Every Chua is Genghis Khan. Obviously I would sew.

760
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: I would look at someone's ferret and be like Lizzy Borden,

761
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: all right, next.

762
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm afraid I'd see Eisenhower and every in every

763
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: animal and then and then they'd be like, I don't

764
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: go to don't go to Chris. He just thinks everyone

765
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: he sees.

766
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: I still get paid either way.

767
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: He just says ike Ike is on every one of them.

768
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So this haunted doll is not no famous

769
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: historic figures that we know of. Gee, how can you

770
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: pull up this doll for us? Please meet Corey?

771
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: Hi, Corey.

772
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: Corey has sort of a clown costume on and is

773
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: like an anthropomorphic cat. Yes, doll.

774
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: If Cats was this, it would have been a box

775
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: office success. It actually would have survived. People would have

776
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: broken quarantine to see this.

777
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: You know, seriously, circus cats, they really missed out.

778
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: This is so good.

779
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: Now Corey is very popular. Corey has got sixteen bids

780
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: and forty one dollars is currently what we're at right now,

781
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: So they're.

782
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: Really there's people that seems fair.

783
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: These people are interested in Corey, but they don't want

784
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: to spend too much money. So I think there's a

785
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: lot of thirty five dollars, how about thirty six dollars,

786
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: how about thirty seven whatever? These people they're going crazy

787
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: for Corey.

788
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: Corey is definitely haunted by a guy that just wants

789
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: to hang out all the time. You know, that's a

790
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: guy that's going to want to watch a movie with

791
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: you and watch and laugh while looking at you directly.

792
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: What's interesting to make you laugh?

793
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: Interesting that you say this? Because Corey comes with a biography,

794
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of a long one. I don't have time

795
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: for all of this.

796
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: But I got time, okay.

797
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: It says meet Corey. He came in my possession when

798
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: a friend of mine who started collecting Haunted vessel items,

799
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: she got Corey actually from a good will. She would

800
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: tell me all about Corey and the stuff that he

801
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: would do, and she couldn't handle him anymore. And I

802
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: told her. I have never come across a vessel that

803
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: I could not tolerate. Well, I guess this was the

804
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: first one. Whoever gets Corey has to be someone who

805
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: can tolerate his obnoxious self.

806
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Corey.

807
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: Loves to cuss you out. You could say he has

808
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: a very potty mouth.

809
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, so Corey's just Corey's just talking.

810
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: I guess. So Corey is a unique vessel. Not only

811
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: does he get my other vessels going.

812
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, sometimes he just won't stop get my

813
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: other vessels going. Cory's got my other vessels going.

814
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: Just doesn't sound like what I think this person means.

815
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: To say, No, sounds like a rolling stone.

816
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: So let me tell you a little bit about Corey.

817
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: So, Cory, you walk by, Corey's just.

818
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Like fuck you think? So, you stupid fucking bitch, You suck?

819
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: What are you even doing?

820
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: So let me tell you a little bit about Corey.

821
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: He knows how to leave his vessel and move into

822
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: other things.

823
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: He also, why are people gonna buy this?

824
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm wondering. First of all, how can

825
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: you sell this? Because like, why wouldn't Corey get out

826
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: of the vessel before you sell it? And stay and

827
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: be inside of a Kleenex box or something.

828
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: How can on proof of purchase? How do you know

829
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: Corey's in there exactly? Keep your repeat. You need to

830
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: scan to make sure. There needs to be some kind

831
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: of test to make sure Corey is in there before

832
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: you're right, because you could just be buying buying Corey's vessel.

833
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: I think my suggestion would be you get when you

834
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: when Corey arrives, start cussing it out and see if

835
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: you get any replies.

836
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. Otherwise, Corey's probably in a parking meter outside

837
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: the original house. You know, the real Corey you know

838
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: of Cory's just taking different vessels.

839
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 1: It says he knows how to actually leave your house

840
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: and likes to make visit visits to your neighbors. If

841
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: you have alcohol in your house, I suggest you keep

842
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: it under lock and key. You always will know when

843
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: Corey has gotten into your liquor cabinet. Ory's a boozer

844
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: who you will know because your house will smell like alcohol,

845
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: and believe it or not, if you pass by him,

846
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: he will have a shitty looking grin on his face.

847
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: When I first got Corey, even after everything my friend

848
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: told me about him. He was very calm. Some of

849
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: the stuff he looks.

850
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: Corey looks sober to me.

851
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: He did, yes, I think when this picture was taken.

852
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: But you know this was before he got into the

853
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: liquor cabinet. Okay, so it says I would hear this

854
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: sounds like originally I would hear a cat meowing, scratching

855
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: on the wall, and I would find loose hair on

856
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: the floor. I didn't think anything of it at first.

857
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: I treated Corey like he was a haunted vessel cat doll. Okay, yeah,

858
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure.

859
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: It seems reasonable.

860
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would think he was a cat.

861
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: That's how I would treat Corey too.

862
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: You would think he was a cat. Until one night,

863
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: out of the blue, he was sitting on my shelf

864
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: and I saw a shadow behind him on the wall,

865
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: as clear as day. It was a man silhouette. I

866
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: tried to ask Corey why did he pick this vessel?

867
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: And he never said nothing. Corey is very active at night.

868
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: There has been many times where he would leave our home.

869
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: This is the pitch to buy Corey.

870
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: Listen, this is there's so much more to it.

871
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: Buy him. He's very active at ma.

872
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: I can't I can't read all of this. It's too

873
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: much and there's a lot of punctuation and spelling errors here.

874
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: But so there's sixteen, at least sixty people that are

875
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: interested after reading this. They're saying, sign me up for this.

876
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: Oh there's people that are like, I like a cocktail

877
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: and I got a potty mouth. Give me Corey. One

878
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: thing I will say in here. It says he likes

879
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: to open lights and when you watch TV, to flicker

880
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: the lights on and off. He makes your TV go

881
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: out every now and then, and then your cell phones

882
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: can ring in the middle of the night. When you

883
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: answer it, you hear a laugh.

884
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so he has Verizon access. I do

885
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: not want this in my life. I feel even I

886
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: feel like I'm even too close to Corey right now,

887
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: Like we're having a laugh about Corey. If I get

888
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: a call in the middle of the night, I am

889
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: going to be so he drunk dials. Yo, Yeah, Corey's

890
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: gonna Actually I think I did do a couple of

891
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: shows with Corey at the Allsion one now that I'm

892
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: looking at him, Yeah, he's pretty cool.

893
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah he's the oldest of old comedians.

894
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't even use the mic Oh.

895
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't need it. Okay, let's do another thing

896
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: we do every week on this show. You want to

897
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: hear some ghost voices? Yes, okay, it's time for ev

898
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: or ev Plase have you ever heard the term EVP? No,

899
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: this is one of these things that the the other

900
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: Chris Fleming, who I thought we were booking, I would

901
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 1: know all about. This is electronic voice assaulted by that question, Yeah, yeah,

902
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: he would Okay, electronic voice phenomenal. So essentially this is

903
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: something very popular on these ghost hunting shows, and it's basically,

904
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: anytime somebody captures a ghost speaking.

905
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: Is Grimes an EVP?

906
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: Pretty much?

907
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yeah, okay, Grinds is an EVP.

908
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Grimes, I would say, uh classifies as.

909
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: It's like an EVP that took the body of a Canadian,

910
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: the way that Corey is now occupying a cat vessel

911
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: a cat suit. Also, if Corey is a man, just

912
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: like a ghost man, think about how demented he is.

913
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: If he sees a cat doll wearing a clown suit

914
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: and goes, this, this will be my home.

915
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, I just sees this. It's like, yep,

916
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: that's me.

917
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: You see anything in the world. But then know that

918
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: that is the rock.

919
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: I actually, whoa, I just got an update from tmz

920
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is engaged to Corey the cat doll. It's

921
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: his new wife.

922
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: Oh my, oh my god. And the name of the

923
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: baby is just a cell phone call them exactly. It's

924
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: just fuck you.

925
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm Cory, fuck you wake up. So here's some ghost

926
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: voices for you. Oh yeah, yeah this first one. Actually,

927
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: both of these come from the same source, which is

928
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: Worstly Paranormal group. They are in the UK and they

929
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: posted a video with a couple of different EVPs. I

930
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: think they're good and.

931
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: I trust I don't think British people have time to lie,

932
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 2: so I I really if they're British, I believe it.

933
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: I do too, especially when it comes to ghost of

934
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: because the ghosts are so old there. Ghosts have been

935
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: a part of that culture for a long time. I

936
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I trust them. But this was

937
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: taken at the John Ryland's Library in Manchester. Mm hmm,

938
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: what is this ghost saying.

939
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: Tells?

940
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: Could you hear it?

941
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you play one more time? That's a ghost?

942
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: Oh god, So that's like what like I just got

943
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: a little shoulder shake.

944
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: I mean, just think about this. They're recording, no one's talking,

945
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: and then they play it back and they hear, Daisy,

946
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm I play it again.

947
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: Test? Is she saying, like, trust something, trust test, try singing?

948
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 2: Is that what you said?

949
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: Totally try singing, try singing.

950
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: Well, that's not what worst worstly paranormal group on YouTube believes.

951
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you four options here. One of these

952
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: is the answer that they believe. Is it a Traban?

953
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: Oh god, a French like like that sounds like a

954
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 2: French one on one student, Okay.

955
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: Totally ninth grade French? Is it b Tracy Ane, Tracy Anne.

956
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe it's that ghost. It's great name.

957
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: I love the name Tracy Tracy An. That would be

958
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: like a Southern American ghost though, right Tracy.

959
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is kind of it is. Yeah, maybe Tracy

960
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: An is from Browntown? Is it c try me? Yeah?

961
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't know me?

962
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard try me? Yeah? Absolutely?

963
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: Wait one more? Is it d Maybe they like.

964
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 2: Could be trusting may Okay, let's.

965
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: Hear it again. You think that it's try me? Yeah? Yeah,

966
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: they believe it is Tracy Anne. Let me play it again.

967
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: Now that we know that.

968
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I hear Southern twang now, yeah, so

969
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: it sounds like a Southern head. That kind of like

970
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: a s Do you hear that like a Southern ghost?

971
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a Southern girl was on vacation in England,

972
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: studying abroad. Oh my god, at the library and a

973
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: book fell on hers.

974
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 2: Are just the average, the average American Southerner just seeing

975
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: all those books died instantly, just the idea of like, oh,

976
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: this is too much knowledge. I'm I'm do ignorant for

977
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: this just being in Yeah, their brain just completely aneurysm. Yeah, no,

978
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: I buy that. Tracy a nasty gee.

979
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: Well, bless your heart.

980
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: How well do you think Tracy Ane is like nineteen twenty?

981
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: I would say probably nineteen That sounds like a college kid.

982
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm TRACYE.

983
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: That is so creepy oo I am.

984
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm here's another creepy one. I got one more for you.

985
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm so creeped out by that. Oh yeah, good good.

986
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: I like being creeped.

987
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: This is from the same group, and this is at

988
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: a place called Melody Pop in Bolton. I think it's

989
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: like a dance studio or something. I don't know. I

990
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: was trying to.

991
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: Google had a panera. This is from the chili's to go.

992
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: This is the chili's where you park to pick up

993
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: the food. Okay, all right?

994
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: You know what, sometimes I hear stories about places like

995
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: that being haunted.

996
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: Why not totally? Totally?

997
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: Why not?

998
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not?

999
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: Okay? What is this ghost saying? Okay, there's some going on.

1000
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: I can't handle that.

1001
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: I think is going off. And you can hear the

1002
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: beeps a couple of times.

1003
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: Oh, that is so scary because that sounds like an

1004
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: evil ghost Tracy, and at least is just like, how

1005
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: y'all doing this? Is? That sounds like we play it

1006
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: back again. Did I hear tits? A guy saying tits,

1007
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: show me your tits.

1008
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: I kind of hear tits in there as well.

1009
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: I think he's complimenting tits.

1010
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: Wait, let's play it again. Oh yeah, something about or No?

1011
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 2: I heard like, no, not the tits. I think it's

1012
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: what do you like most of bat her? Greg? No,

1013
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: he's like he's like he's like an old progressive no

1014
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: telling his friends. No, it's not about the tits. It's

1015
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: about that. It's about the mind. It's her, you know,

1016
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: I love her.

1017
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: That might be what it is I have some other options,

1018
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: but I like this. I like this ghost because all

1019
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: you hear about is ghost sticking their fingers on people's butts,

1020
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: and you know, yeah you hear ghost proctologists.

1021
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1022
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: And to hear a ghost talk like that, I really

1023
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: appreciate that too. So that is not what they believe.

1024
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a Hello, I'm in debt

1025
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: because I'm bad.

1026
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: He said, I'm in bed because I'm bad.

1027
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm in debt because I'm bad. They just can't stop

1028
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: spending and budget properly.

1029
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm in debt because I'm bad. Oh

1030
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: my god. It's like it's like a red light district,

1031
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: like like with a financial kink. Oh my god. Okay, yeah.

1032
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: Or it's like me when I get on eBay late

1033
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: at night looking at these damn haunted dolls and I'm

1034
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: just like, I need to get my life together and

1035
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: I need to stop spend. I don't spend money on

1036
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: haunted dolls, but my god, I'm just I will look

1037
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: at and I'm like, now I'm in dead because I'm Baye.

1038
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,479
Speaker 2: But but there's like a there's like a financial kink

1039
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: to that, like you do the ghost the ghost saying

1040
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: that I'm in debt because I'm Oh my god, that's

1041
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: so creepy. Okay, okay, what's the next? Is it B.

1042
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: Hello?

1043
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: Isn't that Elizabeth? Is it C Hello? I'm a dead listener?

1044
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: Oh?

1045
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: Or is it D Hello? Am I ted Lasso? Okay,

1046
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: it's one of those. I'm gonna play it again.

1047
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: I'm afraid it might be the ted Lesso.

1048
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: They believe it is. See Hello, I'm a dead listener.

1049
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: I'm a dead listener. Oh god, that is so scary.

1050
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: I'm a dead listener.

1051
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1052
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he like cuts out on the l

1053
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, I could totally see that. I mean

1054
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: it's a I mean, are ghosts that reductive about themselves?

1055
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: You know?

1056
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: You know it's always a question like do they know

1057
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: they're dead? I think some do. Do they still like tits?

1058
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: It's like pretty on the nose thing to be, like,

1059
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm a dead listener. That is so scary.

1060
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: Well let me tell you, speaking of tits, Yeah, I

1061
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: was at a haunted strip club in Las Vegas on

1062
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: Oh the TV showing Mouncle Living for the Dad on

1063
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: Hulu in America, Disney Plus all around the world.

1064
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: Wait, Ron do you have. Okay, I need to see

1065
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: this TV. I'm sorry, I'm so behind the times. I

1066
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 2: need to see this show. It's okay, but that's so cool.

1067
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: You should totally check it out.

1068
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: But we went to this haunted strip club and at

1069
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: one point we were asking the ghosts like thine. We

1070
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: were asking like what do you like? And we heard

1071
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: through a machine tats and then it later, like a

1072
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: couple of seconds later, it was like ass and I

1073
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: swear to got this ghost at the Haunted strip Club

1074
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: love tits and ass.

1075
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 2: It's like what else is there? Though? You know, like

1076
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: that that's not if you're gonna ask a ghost of

1077
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: the strip club, how much more creative can they get?

1078
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: It's all they see all day. So yeah, it's sort

1079
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: of like when you're like jan Brady, like George Glass,

1080
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: Like she's like looking around and sees a glass glass.

1081
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 1: It's like the same thing.

1082
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the usual suspect. Yeah yeah, exactly. He

1083
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: probably doesn't like any of it, is what that answer

1084
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: actually tells me. Yeah, if it said, like, honestly, right now,

1085
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 2: I've been here so long, belly buttons are kind of

1086
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Speaker 2: doing it for me, Like that's a ghost.

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Speaker 1: I do want to look at an elbow if you

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01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: just look at it the way it moves.

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Speaker 2: And it's called a weenis for a reason. I mean,

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01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 2: you're not gonna, you know, you're not gonna throw a

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Speaker 2: filthy name like that on something that's not orogenous. That's

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01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: gonna be a discovery. The wenuses it was. It was

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01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 2: correctly named, and it is a rogenous. I mean the

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01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: funny bone. If you hit the funny bone, that ain't right.

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01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 2: So something's in the weenus.

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Speaker 1: You've been hitting the funny bone all hour long. We

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01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: need to wrap this one up, but this has been great.

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Speaker 1: Let's just do one thing real quick, just to get

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Speaker 1: to know you a bit better.

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01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 2: We bring on Kristen Stewart. What's please? Bring out Christy Stewart.

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01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: I love Christy. I love Christen Stewart too.

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: She's so cool.

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01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: Christmas Stewart in adventure Land are you kidding me? Oh yeah?

1104
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: Or Jessie gets topless in that and it feels like

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01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: they should have censored his top Do you know what

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01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: I mean?

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: I did know what you mean. Okay, just to get

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01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: to know you a bit, We're gonna do a quick

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01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: little rapid fire. Let's see if see if a story

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01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: comes up, a thought comes up. Whatever about different paranormal things?

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01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: Great?

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: What do you think about Ouiji boards?

1113
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: Oh? See the Catholic in me terrified? I'm too afraid.

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01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: I would never like when I saw The Witch for

1115
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: the first time that movie, I was on the wrong side.

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01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 2: Like it was only through conversation that I that I

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01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 2: found out that people are actually happy that she joined

1118
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 2: the witches in the end and then left her puritanical family. Like,

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: you know, I could never engage with something devilish like that.

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Speaker 2: I would feel too afraid of losing God's good will.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so going along with that? Like witchcraft? Is

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01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: that how you feel? I mean, are you?

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Speaker 2: I am so pro whatever people do in that realm,

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01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: but I am so afraid of it. I'm so afraid.

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01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 2: I am so I so believe in the power of uh.

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01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you call it? Can we say

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01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: the divine femininity? Is that? Is that? Which would you

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Speaker 2: call that? Witchcraft?

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01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: I think that. Yeah, I so believe in that. I

1131
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: And again, exactly the same thing. It's just not being

1132
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 2: invited to coke, you know, and to do coke. It's like, no,

1133
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: that's not true. I have actually been invited to some

1134
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: witchy things. That is not true. People witches are have

1135
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: been actually pretty welcoming of me. But again, the Catholic

1136
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: in me is very afraid of losing losing the big guys,

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01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: big guys.

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01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: But I mean, yes, okay, I understand why stuff like

1139
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: that seems scary to certain people, like based on your

1140
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: upbringing or whatever. But there's so many similarities the more

1141
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: you get to know it, and absolutely, and I think

1142
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: all things can be used for good or bad and.

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01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: Well, and what's the quote about which is which is

1144
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: just someone who pays attention, you know? And I feel

1145
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: like if you maybe it's the same thing with paranormal

1146
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: like if you just if you strip down all the

1147
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: stupid learn stuff and just try to let your intuition

1148
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: kind of bleed out more than maybe that's a step

1149
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: towards whatever this is in that in that sense, I

1150
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 2: don't see that as interfering with them.

1151
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: I think God would still.

1152
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: He'd still be chill with me.

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01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let you and don't worry. What do you

1154
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: think of psychics? Chris Fleming?

1155
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: Oh so afraid, so so afraid of psychics.

1156
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, do you believe that there's such a thing

1157
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: or that it's real when yes, have you been to psychic?

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01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: No?

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01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: Why not?

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01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: I'm too afraid. I'm so impressionable that like something like

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01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 2: like if they said something clearly, there's bad ones like

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: I like like my friend went to one and the

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: psychic told she was so blown away because the psychic

1164
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 2: told her that her cat wanted wet food. And it's

1165
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 2: like all cats want wet food, you know, that's the easiest.

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01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: I'm just too afraid. Do you go to do you?

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01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: Do you frequent psychics? Constant lyom yeah, what have you had?

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01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: Have they changed the course of your life?

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01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I swear to God, I've had times in

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01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: my life where I'm like, I have a psychic problem.

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: I need to examine this. I keep going to psychics.

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: How often nowadays I'd come friends with a lot of psychics,

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: and I sometimes do this shitty thing that is not

1174
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: okay to do, but whatever where it's just like if

1175
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: you have a friend that's a massage therapist or a

1176
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: doctor or whatever, when you're at a party and you're like, hey,

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01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: you know, I got to ask you something. You know,

1178
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: they're bringing up the work thing.

1179
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 2: Or whatever's this?

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01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: Well, sometimes with my psychic friends, I go listen. I

1181
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: know you charge a lot of money for your readings.

1182
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: I charge people for laughter. And I've been hanging out

1183
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: with you a lot, and I can't help but to

1184
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: notice that you're laughing a lot.

1185
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: Noticing some giggles I've noticed.

1186
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 1: So I've been working for free for you.

1187
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: Such a wow.

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01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if you could talk to my dead

1189
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: grandma for me right now and find out if I

1190
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:59,839
Speaker 1: should buy this car. And I think it's a fair trade.

1191
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: Honestly, your grandma and auto mechanic she was?

1192
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: She was, Yeah, so should I ask her if this

1193
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: is a good deal for us?

1194
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: How many miles should I get an oil change? Yeah?

1195
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: Seven thousand?

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01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 1: Listen, I can't. I don't know how to work Google.

1197
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 1: It's too complicated. I would prefer a psychic just channels

1198
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: my grandmother and has the kinds of questions answered for me. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess that concludes this episode. Chris, this has been

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01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: so fun. I hope that you've had a great time,

1201
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: because I would love.

1202
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 2: I've had I've had such a wonderful time.

1203
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: I would love to invite you back on this sometime again,

1204
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: because you're you. You really get it and you're really

1205
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: fun and.

1206
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: To be actually to I've never never experienced the actual

1207
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: emotion of like fear on a podcast, you know what

1208
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: I mean? Besides like fear of like oh no, it

1209
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: was going to be released to the world, but like fear,

1210
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: like being spooked on a podcast by starring getting chills.

1211
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 2: It's an interesting it's an interesting podcast, right there?

1212
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: Was it the picture of the swamp monster that did

1213
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: it for you?

1214
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: No, it was the naming of Browntown, the fact that

1215
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: there's a town called Browntown. No, it's the ghost, the

1216
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: ghost voices, truly, like I get should do you get

1217
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 2: shoulder shakes where you have to like release a should

1218
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: like I haven't the little yeah that maybe it's nose

1219
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, a little shimmy. But I know

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01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: I had such a lovely time.

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: Ros Oh hey, your comedy special. Doesn't that have kind

1222
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: of a spooky name?

1223
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called Hell. It's adjacent.

1224
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: How'd you come up with that name?

1225
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 2: Mmmm? Well, I was trying to show how bleak performance

1226
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 2: can be and the Hell like pre show. Hell. You

1227
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: know that feeling like and like performing can be kind

1228
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 2: of horrible, But most stand ups make it look like

1229
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 2: it's like they're a fucking rock star. And so I

1230
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 2: was like, it'd be funny if we did the opposite

1231
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 2: and like need like these kind of spooky sketches where

1232
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: I'm like, like worst case scenarios happening before the show

1233
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: leading up to the show, and like, yeah, so that

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01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: was the name. And I think also the Catholicism thing

1235
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: of just I'm constantly thinking about hell, Heaven, hell binary.

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01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: Oh it never leaves your brain, No, it never does.

1237
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: Might as well embrace it.

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01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: I do. I do well.

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01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: People can watch that on Peacock. Right, that's exactly right, amazing.

1240
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch I'm gonna watch your show, Rod.

1241
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch your special. I'm gonna I'm not

1242
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: go I have not yet seen it, but that's okay.

1243
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: We'll do a swap. We'll do a flip flop. I'll

1244
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: watch your thing, you watch my thing, and then we'll

1245
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 1: do book reports back.

1246
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 2: Have you noticed there's a when people say i'd like that,

1247
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 2: you say I'm going to watch it. When people say

1248
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch it, it's like, oh, well, you

1249
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: kind of seem like you're finding a way to wait.

1250
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 2: If you can't wait, it's like you can months it's

1251
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: been you've been actively wait. There's like a zero percent

1252
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 2: watch rate of of those who can't wait. Do you

1253
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 2: find that with yours? Like, oh I can't wait to

1254
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: watch it?

1255
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah the way Sometimes the wait is

1256
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: long and then it's like and then sometimes these people

1257
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: will be like, I watched the stupidest reality show, this

1258
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: new thing last night. I can't believe, but I watched

1259
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: two hours of it. It was so bad. And then

1260
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I have a show you could.

1261
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: Have watched, and you tell me you actually know me.

1262
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: So fun. It is so weird, though, how I get

1263
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: it because it is so intimate what we choose to watch,

1264
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: so many things that we could watch. It is so

1265
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 2: intimate where we actually do select like it needs. I

1266
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: just end up watching the same thing over and over again,

1267
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 2: which is what heat with Robert de Niro and Al Pacino.

1268
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: Well, that'll do it.

1269
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: Well, we did it. That'll do it.

1270
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for doing this. Wait people, social media,

1271
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: whatever you want people to know say yeah.

1272
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chris Fleming. Fleming is my Instagram is

1273
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: all you gotta know. Not the psychic, no follow the

1274
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: psychic too, because he's awesome. Yeah, he's at Chris Fleming

1275
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: ninety one on Twitter and I think at Chris Fleming

1276
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: Official on Instagram. Is his his instagram.

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01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: I love it all right, Well, thank you, thank you, ros,

1278
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: thank you so much to Chris Fleming God, I love him. Hey,

1279
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: Happy holidays, Stay warm out there, stay safe out there.

1280
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 1: I will talk to you in two weeks. Two weeks.

1281
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

1282
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me

1283
01:13:52,400 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: came on. This has been an exactly right production. Want

1284
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read

1285
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so

1286
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 1: email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

1287
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the

1288
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: show's instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

1289
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

1290
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

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01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

1292
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi My guest booker

1294
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

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01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by

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01:14:55,800 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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