1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: pleasure of talking with Benjamin Watson, former Ravens tight end 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: as y'all know and college football analysts for the SEC 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Network on ESPN, and Benjamin, uh, good to have you. 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: And first, what caught our attention was your tweet after 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens hiring of Todd Munkin as Offen the coordinator, 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: and you said, quote, y'all got a good one. Can't 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: wait to see Todd's ingenuity on display with the talent 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: on this roster. Perfect fit. So you know, when you 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: talk so glowingly, you got to invite the lounge. But hey, 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: I love the fact, you know that you you used 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: that Southern accent when you said y'all, you kicked it 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: in really really authentically. You know, I'm a Maryland kid. 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: We're on the border. I can still kind of use y'all. 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know, you know, you know now. 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: But the other the other tweet that I was gonna 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: send was dang it, we lost him. That was the 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: other tweet because as a Georgia fan and a Georgia alum, 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: he has been so instrumental in the last two years, 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: back to back national championships. Um, you know, top ten 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: scoring offense, top ten offense in general. Just what he's 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: done offensively, I think has You know, we talked a 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: lot about George's defense, and rightly so, but Georgia's offense 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: has been phenomenal the last few years. And so I'm 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: sad as a Georgia fan. A lot of people down 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: here where I am right now, outside of Atlanta a sad. 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: But if he had to go somewhere, there are some 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: really good people in Baltimore. So I love the fact 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: these with the Ravens, and you know, I think I 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: mentioned it, you know, I talked about in the tweet. 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: But when I look at Georgia offense and I look 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: at UM Baltimore, there are a lot of similarities there, 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: and I think the most glaring one is obviously the 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: tight end position, exactly exactly. So I'm always about tight 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: ends getting some glory and getting some shine. I don't 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: think Mark Andrews needs my help. He's pretty good and 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna right. But to have a guy coming in, 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, as a player, you're always thinking about, okay, 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: if there's a new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator. Is 40 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: there gonna be a huge shuffle with personnel. Um is 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: a team gonna look to draft certain players that aren't 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: like what we have here. I mean, you're here on 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: defense all the time. Are we're gonna move from a 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: four to three to a three to four. We're gonna 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: play more Nickel, We're gonna play um. You know, it's 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: a style different because that dictates your personnel, and so offensively, 47 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: at least even in my experience in playing in Baltimore, 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: the way that the team was built offensively. He's a 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: good fit. He will he will. It will be a 50 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: seamless transition I think for players on the roster to 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: adapt to maybe some of the new wrinkles, but just 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: in general his philosophy. Right, So when he was at 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: Georgia and you are, as you mentioned, kind of mutually, 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: you're you're invested in it from an analyst standpoint, but 55 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: we're also invested in it as an alum and a fan. 56 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: But what did he do at Georgia that allowed them 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: to be such a powerhouse? Like was it? What was 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: it with his scheme? Because obviously they have great players, 59 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: but you know, I think it's one thing to have 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: great players. It's another thing to take those great players, 61 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: put them in position to succeed and then have the 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: type of success. There's great players at Alabama or High 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: State other places. And it was Georgia who went back 64 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: to back national championships. So what was it that he 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: did that allowed them to be so successful. Yeah, Well, 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: an offense that all boil down to balance, you know, 67 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: that was very clear. And watching Georgia the last few 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: years is a very very balanced offense. And I say 69 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: that word and a lot of people feel like, well, 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: send you allays be balanced. No, there are a lot 71 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: of teams, you know. You look at Mississippi State or something. 72 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna throw the ball seventy times and run the 73 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: ball a little bit here and there. You look at 74 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: other teams, they're gonna run the ball really heavy. That's 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: that's their bread and butter, that's their identity. And at 76 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Georgia they were a team that could beat you multiple ways. 77 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Granted they've recruited very well. Kirby Smart has done a 78 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: phenomenal dropp over the last five six years in recruiting 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: and that hasn't stopped. So look, especially in college, when 80 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: your athletes are better than the other athletes, You're gonna 81 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: win at least seven games just on pure talent in 82 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: the college level, you know much of your schedule. But offensively, 83 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, you had a system where you got Stetson 84 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: Bennett at quarterback, very very mobile. You know, he kills 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: people with his legs, very very smart. Player, made good decisions, 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: did very well, not turning the ball over, took chunk 87 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: plays when he needed to pull the ball down a 88 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: ram when he had to as well. Twelve personnel. When 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: I was in Baltimore and I had Greg Roman, and 90 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: I swear I told Grow, I was like, man, your 91 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: run game is probably the most complicated run game I've 92 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: ever been around. Now, we would gash people in the 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: run game, for sure, but the terminology his mind from 94 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: a running aspect was what was really top notch amongst 95 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: anybody you know in the league that I ever had 96 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: as a as a run game coordinator. But at Georgia 97 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: you had a situation where you've got to start running backs, 98 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: You've got a great offensive line. But that twelve personnel 99 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: is what made Georgia different. And to answer your question, 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: just transparently, Georgia was a twelve personnel more than anybody 101 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: in the country, right, And what that does to a 102 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: defense is it puts them in a conundrum because they 103 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna run it, if you're gonna pass. 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: They don't know heavy personnel they're gonna put in a 105 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: passing defense. You talk to defensive coordinators teams that can play, 106 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: they have two guys and Georgia had that in Brock 107 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Bowers and Darnelle Washington who can block, but also you know, 108 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: hurt you in the passing game. It makes it very difficult, right. Um, 109 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: Just I want to kind of piggyback off that. You 110 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: talk about the run game a little bit and what 111 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: Greg did, right, and we saw so many pooling every 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: but he was a pooler on the offensive line. This year, 113 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: does does Todd use a lot of that? Like are 114 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: his run schemes and concepts similar to Greg's? Because John 115 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: at the season and press conference said, you know, ideally 116 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: we want to improve the passing game and keep going 117 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: what we got with a great rushing attack. You know, 118 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: do you see that with todder Is it a different 119 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: way of of running the ball. When I'm watching the film, um, 120 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: and even when I watched Baltimore, because we have when 121 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: we were cheering for y'all in the last game, Like 122 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: everybody in my household was cheering for Ravens, but definitely 123 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: not as many Poolers. That's what got me kicked out 124 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: of run game meetings in Baltimore. I'm like, I like 125 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: Greg coach, I'll just pulling. I don't know, I don't 126 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: know when to pull. I don't know who I'm pulling. 127 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's confusing. Um, Well, Greg, he does a 128 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: lot of is a duo scheme. UM duo was kind 129 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: of like a power um in the sense that, um, 130 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: it's you know, the the tight end and the wing 131 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: might double the end to the to the linebacker. You've got, Um, 132 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, if you've got to tight end or tackle. 133 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: This doubling to an inside linebacker, we called a duo scheme. 134 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: He does a lot of that. That's Todd you're talking about. 135 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: But you're talking about Todd. Yeah, come about Todd, Todd. Todd. 136 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, Todd. Um not as many of the 137 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: of the Poolers. But I tell you what, Um, he 138 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: he's got it all. Yeah. I think the biggest thing though, 139 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: in talking to him, even so before the National Championship, 140 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm at the walk through and um, he walks out 141 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: there and and uh, you know, just start talking to 142 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: him just about offense, and you know how he's doing, 143 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, second national championship, blah blah blah. And he's 144 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: just like, it's the players, man, the players to play. 145 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: I put him in a position, and the players make 146 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: the plays. Very likable personality. Uh, communicates very well. Um. 147 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: And that's another thing as a player. You know, if 148 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in Baltimore right now as a raven, I'm wondering, 149 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: it's a guy you can't that's your bring in. Is 150 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: he gonna be able to teach me how to how 151 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: to execute his scheme to perfection? And that's what Todd 152 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: has proven, not only in you know, the college level, 153 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: but he's been at the pro level too. So you've 154 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: got a guy who's got experience in dealing with um, 155 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, college athletes as well as pro athletes, because 156 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: they're different and a lot of times if you're just 157 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: a coach on the college level, doesn't mean that you're 158 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: going to be able to communicate well on the pro level. Interesting, Yeah, 159 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: when you talk to him, and because you're around that program, 160 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, did you get the sense like, oh, he's 161 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: gonna want to make the jump back to the NFL level, 162 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: and that did you feel like, I don't know if 163 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, if you were thinking about it, you know, 164 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: you're probably more focused on making sure they win that 165 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: national championship, But I was I wasn't thinking that. I mean, 166 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: you know that now that I look at retro spray. 167 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: I didn't have a whole lot of conversations with him 168 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: before games every now and then, and most of the 169 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: time I was in studios, I wasn't even with the team. 170 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: But when I was, you know, in the off season, 171 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: going by and just you know, telling him thank you 172 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: for for the work that he's that he's doing with 173 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: the program. But you know, I think for everybody, UM, 174 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: when you've accomplished certain heights in your profession, sometimes a 175 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: part of you wants to try something else, or part 176 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: of you wants to do something else again. And you know, 177 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: without having spoken with him since he's taken the job 178 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, wishing the best, UM. But I don't want 179 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: to speak out a term, but I will say that, 180 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, back to back national champions you know, offense 181 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: was performing at a very high level. You know, a 182 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: couple of years in a row. He's been in the 183 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: NFL before. There are some things about the NFL that 184 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I know college coaches like, like better they don't have 185 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: to recruit. The season is longer, but you don't gotta recruit. 186 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: You ain't got to do with nil, right, you know, 187 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: you're dealing with different sets of problems on the pro 188 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: level on the college level, and I think I think 189 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: that for guys who have done both, um, sometimes they're 190 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: like one more than the other. I don't know which 191 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: one that is for coach Monkin, but I do know 192 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: that some times, when you send it to the heights 193 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: of one level, you know, maybe you want to try 194 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: somewhere else. I know the reason why he probably chose 195 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: Baltimore was because he felt he had an opportunity to 196 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: do so. You got a quarterback that is a generational talent, 197 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: you know, a guy who was highly motivated, who from 198 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: the outside looking in the team respects the team, follows 199 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: the city, loves, seems to do everything the right way. 200 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think Lamar has really reached 201 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: his full potential yet. I mean, I think he can 202 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: still get so much better. And that's scary, right. So 203 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: if you're a coach, an offensive coordinator, and you're looking 204 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: at number one, a quarterback, which is the most important 205 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: position on the field. I say that as a tight end, 206 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: but no, quarterbacks the most important field And if you 207 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: got a guy like that, it excites you to go there. 208 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: And also you have a mentality in Baltimore with the 209 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: team of toughness, one thing that was very clear in Georgia, 210 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: and I think that part of it came from a 211 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: lot of it came from from Kirby, from coach smart Well, 212 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: he gonna be a tough, smart, physical football team. M Yeah, 213 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: everybody in football is tough. Everybody hits, but there's a 214 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: difference when you're standing on the sideline and you're seeing 215 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: your offensive line drive guys into the ground and your 216 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: defensive line be relentless, and there's just a character there 217 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: of toughness that bowes well for you as you play 218 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: longer into the season and as you try to tain championships. 219 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: So that's that's why he would come to Baltimore. That's 220 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: that's part of the reasons why I came to Baltimore. Right, 221 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: We've heard a lot about Todd out scheming opponents in 222 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: the passing game. Obviously, when you put up the number 223 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: of points that you know George did, you're doing a 224 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: lot of things right in the passing game. What did 225 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: you see from him in terms of his pass game schematics? 226 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: He talked about the run game, but I'm curious about 227 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: through the air. So I'm watching the Super Bowl and 228 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: this year, and I think I said this before several times, 229 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: but I'm like, why is Travis Kelsey always open? I'm 230 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: always saying the same, like everybody knows he's gonna get 231 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, you know how frustrating it mustn't be 232 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: for a defensive coordinator or a defensive player to know 233 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: this guy is getting the ball. We practice against him 234 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: all week on the scout team, yet we can't stop 235 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: him right. And part of that is because he's a 236 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: great route runner, he's savvy, he's smart, he doesn't run 237 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: the lines on the page. All that is true, but 238 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: part of it is also scheming him up to get 239 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: open and understanding how a defense reacts to motion so 240 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: that you can get a guy open. And one of 241 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: the things that we saw all year the last couple 242 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: of years from Monk and in the offense is yeah, 243 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: you've got good players. Brock Bowers is a generational talent too, 244 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: as far as college goes. You know, most dynamic player, 245 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: I think, most complete player at any position for his 246 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: position in college football. So one on one he can win. 247 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: But when you move him in the slot, when you 248 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: disguise him with motion, when you put him in different 249 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: places on the field, when you have a Lad mcconchy 250 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: who is a wide receiver and he's he's wide open 251 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: all the time, and then you look back and say, oh, 252 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: he was open because Todd knew how the defense was 253 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: going to react to this motion sort of freed him up. 254 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: So he's wide opening the secondary um not necessarily a 255 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: defensive bust, but the guys are playing their rules and 256 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: he understands the rules to take advantage of them. You know, 257 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: just several several times that was clearly the case, and 258 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, you think, oh, this is college. You know 259 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: these kids are amateur athletes, and you know they're not 260 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: at the building all day long, so they're gonna make mistakes. 261 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: And then you turn on Sunday and you see some 262 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: of the same mistakes because officive coordinators are scheming up 263 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: players to get them open and getting certain defenses so 264 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: you know. That's that's that's all part of it. And 265 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the only office Corta that can 266 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: do that, but that's what made it exciteing to watch 267 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: this year watching Georgia play. Yeah, yeah, wee. Thing that like, 268 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: as I've been reading and talking to people like you 269 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: about Monking over the past few days, is it's curious, 270 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: like what the offense will actually look like as he 271 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: gets in here and puts his fingerprints on it. Because 272 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: you look at his career, like you talked about the 273 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: twelve personnel that he used so much at Georgia over 274 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: the past few years. You go back, you know, when 275 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: he was in Tampa Bay and when he was at 276 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. It was like more of a pass heavy 277 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: and an air raid offense when he was at Oklahoma 278 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: State and had Dez Bryant, And so it seems to 279 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: me like he kind of caters the system to the 280 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: players that he has, and so then what does that 281 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: mean for him here in Baltimore. What do you think 282 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: the offense will look like? Yeah, that's a that's a 283 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: good question. I'm not, um, you know, totally up to 284 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: date on the Ravens roster um, but I'll say this, Um, 285 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: the tight end's gonna be a huge part. Yeah, and 286 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: you know Andrews likely, Um, you know whoever else is 287 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: in that room, they're gonna be a huge part. And 288 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: I think there is something too. What you said was 289 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: catering your offense to your personnel. Everybody doesn't do that. 290 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy. You're like, this is the NFL, 291 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: of course, Like if you got if you got guys 292 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: who can blow down the field, why are you trying 293 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: to you know, run five yards in a cloud of 294 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: dust or you're a cloud of why are you doing that? 295 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: But there are offensive coordinators who do that. I played 296 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: with them, and he's not going to do that. Um, 297 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: he's versa a little enough in his background, having been 298 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: around enough enough offenses enough you know, different teams and 299 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: situations to understand what works best, what does the offense 300 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: look like. I still think that the Ravens will be 301 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: a run first offense. UM, partly because uh, it's difficult 302 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: sometimes to come and totally change something that's been ingrained 303 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: into players mentality. That being said, I know there's an 304 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: emphasis on being balanced, and you can't win in the 305 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: NFL if you can't complete you know, third or short 306 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: third and third and medium third and long. In the 307 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: passing game, right, you can't win that way. It's too 308 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: hard in the NFL to drive twelve plays. You got 309 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: to get some chunks sometimes. And so I think that 310 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: the offense will be quote unquote more open next year, 311 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: meaning probably takes a few more shots down the field. 312 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: I know he likes to do that with his wide receivers, 313 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: but also with his tight ends, also with the running 314 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: backs in the pass game. One thing that was under 315 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: estimated last year I think for Georgia was including running 316 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: backs in downfield passes, obviously sipping them out of the backfield, 317 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: but lining them up in the slot doing those sorts 318 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: of things. I mean, you got some versatile backs in 319 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: Baltimore that are able to do that and get involved 320 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: and it excites everybody. Georgia's offense was not like some 321 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: others where you had one guy I who was, you know, 322 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: a thousand yard receivers receiver. Obviously brock Byrus was a 323 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: leader in that respect um, but the ball was spread 324 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: around quite a bit. I think you may see some 325 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: similarities there. Right, What's one thing, you know, you spoke 326 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: to the physicality a little bit ago. But you know, 327 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: as we talked about, Todd spin has had so many 328 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: different schemes and different offenses over his career. But if 329 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: there's one thing that you say everywhere that Todd Munkin goes, 330 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: here's what he's going to hang his hat on, this 331 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: is what you will get in that offense, because that's 332 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: just who he is. What is that with todmunk You know, 333 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: I was looking at I was looking at some of 334 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: his in preparation for us talking. I was kind of 335 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: looking back at some of the places where he stopped. 336 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: And you know you mentioned, um, Tampa, right, and you 337 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: know obviously when he was in Tampa, you had Winston, 338 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: you have Fitzpatrick, you had to really Mike Evans Godwin Yeah, yeah, 339 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: yeah right, you had to still passing off fence right right, 340 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: Um yeah yeah, quarterbacks that are probably playing at the 341 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: best of their UM in their career. Uh. Even look 342 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: at Cleveland, Um he was there, Nick Chubb obviously UM 343 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: was lights out. But I believe it was Banker Mayfield's 344 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: best statistical career cile season in his career. UM. Fast 345 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: forward in Georgia, Stepson Bennett, a guy who the coaches 346 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: admitted they didn't even want him to be the quarterback. 347 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: Like Coach Smart at the Heisman was like, look, we 348 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: we we missed it, Like we we didn't think you 349 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: were going to be the guy. Thankful you're the guy, 350 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: but as coaches, we didn't see it. We were looking 351 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: at other people. Um. So he's been able to develop quarterbacks. Um. 352 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: And I think that that's something that he may not 353 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: get a whole lot of credit for. I haven't heard 354 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: that narrative a whole lot, uh, but I do think 355 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: that as an offensive coordinator, if you're going to be 356 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: a successful one, you have to have that that guy 357 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: that's taking the snap, he has to trust you. You 358 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: got to be able to play to his strengths, and 359 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to develop him. Yeah, that's so. 360 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: So the natural question there is how do you think 361 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: he will help Lamar Jackson? Obviously, you know there's been 362 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: that's that's all the talk you know with uh, when 363 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: you get a new offensive coordinator, Lamar Jackson is the 364 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: focal point of this offense. What do you think how 365 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: he will how do you think he will help Lamar 366 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: and take him as you talked a little bit earlier, 367 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, even to another level to fully maximize that potential. Yeah, Um, 368 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: I think I think part of it is taking some 369 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: off of him. I think a lot of times, um 370 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: quarterbacks excel. And then again I wasn't a quarterback, but 371 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: in speaking to quarterbacks on watching quarterbacks, I think many 372 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: times they excel when they don't have to feel like 373 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: they're carrying the load by themselves. And um, you know 374 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: that's not a slight to anyone. But when you've got 375 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: a guy that is as talented as he is, he 376 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: can run past people, he could he could be he is, 377 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: and can be the leading rusher. He can also be 378 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: the leading pastor. I mean, he do all these sorts 379 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: of things. Is how do you get him to be 380 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: able to be confident in delegating and distributing the ball 381 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: to his playmakers. Yes, we want you to run urpos, 382 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: and we want you to run quarterback draws, and we 383 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: want you to do those things in spots, but you're 384 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: not gonna have to feel like you have to win 385 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: the game every game and it all depends on you, 386 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, throwing an interception or keeping the ball and 387 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: throwing a touchdown in order for us to win the game. Now, 388 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: it does boil down to your play because you're the quarterback. 389 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: But the feeling is that I'm going to put you 390 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: in the best position to use your capabilities and to 391 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: be confident in getting the ball to other people because 392 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: my play calling is going to set you up for success. 393 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna through play calling, I'm not going to 394 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: get you in a situation where it's really a no 395 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: win situation for you. Right. So, you know, I think 396 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: justin watching, like I said, is those are the sorts 397 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: of things. And for my understanding, the marks sound like 398 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: he was like he had had a little bit of input. 399 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like he had a little 400 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: bit uh in this. You know, who knows how much 401 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: that is. Hopefully he's he's happening, he's confident that this 402 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be a good marriage, right, And uh, I'm 403 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: just curious. You know, what do you see in terms 404 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: of the quarterback run? You know, with with Monkey, does 405 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: he still like to do a lot of kind of 406 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: called runs for the quarterbacks? Should we expect that to 407 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: continue for Lamar uh not? At that same clip, you know, 408 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: what did he do? You talked about Stetson would would 409 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: run a little bit o Stetson run a lot. You 410 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: know that there were but but again, but again with Stetson, 411 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: when a defense allowed you to have that, when there 412 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: was you know, an opening, there there was some design 413 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: runs for Stetson. Even on the goal line, there were 414 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: design runs. There were several times. I mean I remember, 415 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: I think it was Mississippi State game. You know, there 416 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: are a couple of games where Stetson had design runs 417 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: within the five yard line and then there was some 418 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: where he was you know, a midfield and so that 419 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: played to his capabilities though, right, Um, and obviously you 420 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: know in Baltimore there's a quarterback that can run very well. 421 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: At the same time, there needs to be an emphasis 422 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: on trusting the pocket, pushing the ball out on time, 423 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: and all those things that quarterbacks need to do to 424 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: be successful. Right, And that's not just quarterback, that's the 425 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: officive line, that's everybody. That's everybody getting open. What you 426 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: don't want, however, is a quarterback that feels like he 427 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: has to run in order to get the first down 428 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: every time because you can't get the ball anywhere. Right. 429 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I would expect to see I mean, you 430 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: don't have a guy like Lamar back there and not 431 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: use his legs, right exactly. That's part of the luxury 432 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: of having that. The next step is how do you 433 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: use that threat in order to make the defense shorthanded 434 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: by making them always have a spy or two and 435 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: so then you get your single coverages outside. Right, So 436 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: before you wrap up your band, just what is how's 437 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: life treating you these days? You're working for the SEC 438 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: network on ESPN and working in the media business, which 439 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: you know and covering you during your time here. Could 440 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: certainly see that was something that could be potential for 441 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: you if you wanted to go that route. And it's 442 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: and you're having a lot of success in that space. 443 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: Oh that was a no duh. Yeah, this is gonna 444 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: be so good on TV. And he's done. I learned 445 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: from y'all. Man, Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that. Well, 446 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: so I'll do that a little bit. And the college 447 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: football season is not that long. I mean it's actually 448 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: it's actually perfect because you know, maybe I'll do NFL 449 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: at some point, but the NFL season is a lot longer. 450 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: Me and Kirsten, my wife and I we got seven 451 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: kids and so we we are. I'm part time Uber 452 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: service driver, like starting at well, we're recording this thing 453 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: at like one fifty seven, I mean starting at two 454 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: thirty or so Eastern time. My wife and are Uber 455 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: Service drivers from like two thirty until like nine thirty 456 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: at night with all the activities. Um, I am doing 457 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: that doing SEC just during the season. I just do 458 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: once a week covering all the games. M also work 459 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: with the organization called Human Coalition and uh we are 460 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: based out of Dallas, but we have telecare around the 461 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: country and what we would do is provide services for 462 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: pregnant women, preborn children, and we also engage on the state, local, 463 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: federal legislation around the issue of life, protecting women and 464 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: protecting children. M. You know, that issue has been important 465 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: to me throughout throughout my life as a as a 466 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: justice issue. As we talked about kind of the social 467 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: justice realm. That's one of the things that that my 468 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: wife and I've kind of devoted our time and talents too. 469 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: And so I've been working with them for the last 470 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: couple of years too. And uh, you know I got 471 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: a book coming out in June. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 472 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: got another book coming out. I think when I was 473 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, I actually released my about fatherhood talking about 474 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: that with you. It is great. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, So 475 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I still get people message me and just 476 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, fatherhood is so important and there's so many men. 477 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember time sitting in the locker room 478 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, in the training room with the Ravens. 479 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: I remember a conversation with a guy his girlfriend I 480 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: think was pregnant and he was gonna get married in 481 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: a few months or something, and like me when I 482 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: had my first, he was scared, like, man, I just 483 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: want to do it right. I just want to be 484 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: a good dad. And I think a lot of people 485 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: don't realize how many of those conversations are happening in 486 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: locker rooms of men who whether you had a dad 487 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: that was good or not, most of the guys want 488 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: to be great fathers, right, and we just you know, 489 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: we're scared. They don't give us a manual for that job. 490 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: They just send us home with a baby from the hospital, 491 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: like good luck. So that was great. But the next 492 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: book coming out in June in light of kind of 493 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: going back to my work with Human Coalition, in light 494 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: of the overturning of Roe v. Wade last June, which 495 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: sent the issue of abortion back to the States, the 496 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: right Constitution, right to abortion back to the States. My 497 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: book is called The New Fight for Life, Row Race 498 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: and a Pro Life Commitment to Justice, coming out June twentieth, 499 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: and really it's just about what does it look like 500 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: to serve and protect life in this time after Row. 501 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of back and forth. It's a very 502 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: emotional issue. A lot of people have their opinions, which 503 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: is great. I look at it from the sense of 504 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: how do we make a situation where women don't feel 505 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: like abortion is an option that they have to take. 506 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: What are the social, the economic, the educational, the relationshow 507 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: relational with with dads are What are the issues of 508 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: justice that we can impact to bring those numbers down 509 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: and to support life in general. So it was it's 510 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: one of them issues that I didn't think I was 511 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: gonna be writing about. That wasn't my plan. But that's 512 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: where God has me right now. My friends, I see 513 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: you have the New Dad's Playbook behind you. And actually 514 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: when you when you mentioned that the book came out 515 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: when you're here in Baltimore, you actually gave me a 516 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: copy And I wasn't a dad of that time, but 517 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: you said you know, Garrett, at some point you'll be 518 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: a dad. You inscribed it and said this is for 519 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: you at that time, So six months ago, became a dad. 520 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: So I pulled that book out recently and I was like, 521 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta take a look at this again. 522 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. Oh, man to touch it. That's 523 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: that's all man, Thanks for sharing that. Yeah, and congratulations. Yeah, 524 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: that's that's awesome. I know for a fact that you're 525 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: like looking at life a little bit differently now. Yeah, 526 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: no doubt, for sure, no doubt. That's awesome. Well, we'll 527 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: let you go before the twins wake up for their 528 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: neat but thank you so much for the time. We 529 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: really appreciate your insight and as always been, you're great, dude. 530 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: Best luck with everything. Thanks great to join y'all. Well, 531 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: big thanks to Benjamin for joining us. Got great insight 532 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: from him on Todd Munkin. 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So obviously he is 550 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: a big fan of the Todd wunkin Hire and thinks 551 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: that will help us offense in a lot of ways. 552 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: He's I think he's a fan of it, but also 553 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: disappointed because his bulldogs are no longer going to have 554 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: him in Athens. Well, I showed you a screenshot of 555 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: the Reddit bulldogs George Bulldogs reddit page. Yeah, there's some 556 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: spiceandit language on the dot monk and leaving, which tells 557 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: you a little bit about how their football fans felt 558 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, like you want them to be mad exactly. Yeah, 559 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: that's a that's a good thing for the Ravens exactly. 560 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: So Yeah, as we said previously, you know, I think 561 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: we're both big fans this higher as well, and we're 562 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: not alone. Some of our listeners here have emailed us. 563 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: This one comes from Patrick Coon. He says, as a 564 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: Ravens and Georgia fan, I love this higher. So he 565 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: was one of the ones on Reddit who was like 566 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: half celebrating, half upset. Yeah, so, he says, Tom Munkin 567 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: delivers a balanced offense with creativity and love for the 568 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: explosive play down field. He loves getting the tight ends involved. 569 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean, did you see brock Bowers this season? And 570 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: we'll take deep strikes to wide receivers. Moreover, I think 571 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: the running backs will thrive with his run schemes. Also 572 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: noticed that Uga didn't have a true top flight receiver. 573 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: Is that ring a bell to Ravens fans out here? 574 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Been talking about the Ravens wide receivers, but was still 575 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: able to make big plays down the field. If the 576 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: Ravens can get another wide receiver weapon to put next 577 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: to Bateman. This could be very interesting. Hot take the 578 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: Ravens select Stetson Bennett Day three, late round draft pick. 579 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: I know he had a little run in with the 580 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: law and Dallas a few weeks ago, but from what 581 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: I heard, uh, he only had he only had two Natty's. 582 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: Oh boy, they although they were back to back. Um, 583 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: so there you go. H Yeah. I mean, I think 584 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: that the point about the wide receiver is very interesting, 585 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's that's kind of I still think that 586 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: Rashod Bateman could come back from his foot injury and 587 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: be that number one guy that like we've all hoped 588 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: that he can be. You know, I think Bateman is 589 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: a very very skilled player. Um. But like it's no 590 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: secret that the Ravens are a thinner at wide receiver. 591 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: Are they going to upgrade that position this offseason? Certainly 592 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: that's one of their probably their big missions. But I 593 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: think that the the current roster construction suits Todd munkin 594 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: well yeah right, and and being able to maximize this 595 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: offense offense the way that it's built. It's also kind 596 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: of interesting. I do think that they need a speed, 597 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: another speed, big play option opposite of him, and it's 598 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: interesting to look back at Todd Munkin's offenses in Tampa Bay, 599 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: who was a speed guy, right, the Shawn Jackson right, yeah, 600 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: Djacks out there, who put up like seven hundred sent 601 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: yards you know, And so it's just kind of interesting. 602 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens like recognize that they needed that 603 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: speed threat brought in d Jacks's past offseason. You know, 604 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: he hit big play for the injuries or whatnot. But yeah, 605 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: it's just kind of interesting, like you see that even 606 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: if the wide receivers, even if you aren't just absolutely 607 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: loaded at wide receiver like he had in Tampa Bay 608 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: with Mike Evans, Godwin d Jacks, you know, more closer 609 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: to his prime, that he can still make that offense 610 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: hum including in the passing game. Yeah, I think it's 611 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: everybody's been talking about what it means for Lamar Jackson, 612 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: which I agree with, and how it could be really 613 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: great for him. How about Mark Andrews. Now, that's not 614 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: act like Greg Graham's offense wasn't tight end friendly right, 615 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: certainly certainly keeping like Mark Andrews. But I think it's 616 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: it's more about that scheme in the passing game. I 617 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: think he could now Mark Andrews has been a beast 618 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: in the passing game. So it's hard to see, especially 619 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: the numbers that he put up not year four, last 620 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: ye twenty one season, it's hard to see them getting 621 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: mutched better than that. I mean that was a monster season. Yeah. Um, 622 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: but I do think that Mark Andrews will benefit. And 623 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: I guess the thing that like, and I said this 624 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: to Benjamin, but like the thing that stands out to 625 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: me is it just seems like he caters the thing 626 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: around his players. Yeah. Um, and just kind of based 627 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: on what he said on the you know, the kind 628 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: of casual conversation that he had with with Ty leading 629 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: in the National Championship, It's like it's about the players, 630 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: put them in a position to succeed. It seems like 631 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: that is kind of his mentality as well. Right, here's 632 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: another email. This one comes from Ronnie Smith. No question. 633 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: Here he says thanked us for getting out an extemporaneous 634 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: podcast on the Monster Slash Monkman High. He hapaneous. I 635 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, you saw that you saw a 636 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: big word, and you're like, I gotta read this email. 637 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: You would have butchered that you would have that? Well 638 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: done to ron on the vocab of the day. Yes, yes, nice, 639 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,479 Speaker 1: and he says it's a big relief to get this 640 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: hiring done. Seemed like the interviews were not getting narrowed down, 641 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: but they apparently were waiting for the Super Bowl to complete. 642 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: Question Mark it says, he's really excited about our new 643 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: play caller. I hope he works great with Lamar and 644 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the offense. Looking for a marriage of 645 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: the passing game and an amazing run game. So yeah, 646 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people were kind 647 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: of wondering about the timing of that and whether, you know, 648 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy was part of that calculation, We don't know. 649 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: You know, there are reports that the Ravens wanted to 650 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: talk to him. Obviously, the higher came two days after 651 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl ended, so we don't know. We don't 652 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: know whether those talks happened or not. But I do 653 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: think that that probably played a role in the timing 654 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: of how this all happened. Yeah, yeah, And you know, 655 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: you saw after the Super Bowl there was a number 656 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: of moves that took place around the league, right, And 657 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: so it's not like the Ravens would like every other 658 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: team had made an offensive coordinator or head coach Higher 659 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: and then the Ravens were sitting there waiting. I mean 660 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: they got a lot happens basically in the seventy two 661 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: hours after the Super Bowl, and that was the case 662 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: here as well. Yep, another email comes from Will Saunders. 663 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: He says, absolutely love the hire of coach munkin his 664 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself. I love how he utilized the 665 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: two tight end offenses here with Andrews Likely and Kohler. 666 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: That is an easy transition, says. My question is about 667 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: the report that the Ravens were glued to Zay Flowers, 668 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: the Boston College wide receiver at the East West Shrine Practices, says, 669 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like the Ravens. They're not a franchise 670 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: that shows its cards. Why I announced the world that 671 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: they love Flowers by not leaving his side and risking 672 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: on the team, jumping in front of them on draft, 673 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: they to steal them. That's not how the Ravens do business. 674 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: Do you believe this is a smokescreen and that they 675 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: actually like another receiver at number twenty two? We're putting 676 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: on the tinfoil hats now here we go. I would 677 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: say the Ravens are going to do their exhaustive homework 678 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: on all of the candidates they could draft at number 679 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: twenty two. I think that they will make sure that 680 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: they have all the information great scattering reports, bring plenty 681 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: of them in for visits. You know, Like, this is 682 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: not really a situation like twenty eighteen where you kind 683 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: of caught the NFL by surprise when you took Lamar Jackson. 684 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot of people who thought the Raves 685 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: were gonna take Lamar Jackson this year. So you know, 686 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens didn't make any noise about their interests in Lamar. 687 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't think there's really any There would be no 688 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: surprise if the Ravens took a first round wide receiver 689 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: this year. It's the most popular projection for them. So 690 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: I say all that to say they're gonna do their 691 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: homework on all of these guys, So don't be surprised 692 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: if they're paying extra attention to the first round prospects 693 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: of wide receiver throughout this entire prospect. Now, with all 694 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: of that said, they are not going to let anybody 695 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: know if they particularly like a certain player. So like 696 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: if the reports start to get out that like all 697 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens really like Zay Flowers. Well yeah, then all 698 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, my alarm bills start going off that like, Okay, 699 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: maybe that's not the case because they are not gonna 700 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: like leak who they're interested in. They're not gonna put 701 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: their draft board. They've been They've been to this rodeo 702 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: a few times. Yeah, they know how to do this. 703 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say because I've been at the Senior Bowl. 704 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: I've never been the East West trying game, but I've 705 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: been to the Senior Bowl a number of times. And 706 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: here's how this whole thing works. With the media. They 707 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: see one little thing, they see a guy, you know, 708 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: following another prospect, and you get you get the likes 709 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: and the retweets from the Oh, it looks like the 710 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: Ravens are really interested in in prospect X. You see 711 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: that all the time. It's like and you see that 712 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: the combine. It cracks me up every year. Uh, you 713 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: know them? Have you have you met with the Ravens? 714 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: Have you met with the Bucks? Have you met with 715 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: the Commanders? Have you met with the top guys? Meet 716 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: with everybody? It means nothing. It means nothing. It's just 717 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: like I don't usually go on these tangents of railing 718 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: on the media, but like around this time of year, 719 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that, and it's most of it 720 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: is heart hot Garbaggio. Yeah, it's just like somebody looking 721 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: for like I think the Ravens are really following Zay Flowers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 722 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: Well it is funny at the combine, which which we 723 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: will talk more about the Combine over the course of 724 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: the next you know, that's that's basically a week and 725 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: a half away, so we're gonna be talking about the 726 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: Combine a lot. But it's just funny because typically as 727 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: guys like start to run through that list, they literally 728 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: don't even often know who they meet with because they 729 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: go through this process and they're like, did you meet 730 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys? Did you meet with the Eagles? You 731 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: meet with the Ravens, And it's like, um, did I 732 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: meet with them? Was that? Like these guys it's a 733 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: world win to them. So then it's like, yeah, I 734 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: think so tweet uh so and so met with the Ravens. 735 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, must I'll give our media. 736 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: If our media is listening to this, I don't think 737 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: they really are falling to that one. They're not among 738 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: the did you meet with the Ravens crowd, There's some 739 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: some teams and the reporters have just fallen in love 740 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: with that game. It's crazy now. Now now, I will 741 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: say I believe it was last year. It was last 742 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: year at the draft or at the combine where Da 743 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: Costa came out and said, we met with Tyler Linderbaum 744 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: and and you know, we talked about Iowa. We've had 745 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: a good track record, you know, Iowa offensive lineman. The 746 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: Marciana thing so so well when the GM comes out 747 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: and singles, but I'm saying they play the game too 748 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: on the flip side, and all a sudden, it's like 749 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: when he says that and you say that, you're like, okay, there, 750 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: So they're not interested in Lindibom Duprat, right, they play 751 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: both sides of that coin. I think I'll say this 752 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 1: about the whole wide receiver thing. The first round wide 753 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: receiver debate is like, there doesn't seem to be a 754 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: consensus there. So to your point, I think the Ravens 755 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: are gonna do their their in depth homework on all 756 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: these guys, right, I mean, is Jalen Hyatt, The top 757 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: guy is Quentin Johnston, the top guy is the Flowers. 758 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: The top guy is who's the USC kid? Yeah, you 759 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: could run down the list right Jackson Smith and Jigua 760 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: from you know, Ohio State, Addison from USC like, it 761 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: seems like anybody could have them ranked in any order there. 762 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: And um so I think we're going to see a 763 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: lot of interest from the Ravens and probably all those 764 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: guys totally. Um So, I wouldn't read too much into that. Yeah, 765 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: so obviously we're gonna be talking about basically all those 766 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 1: guys the course of the next couple of months. So uh, 767 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: once again, really appreciate Benjamin for coming on the podcast. 768 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: Also want listeners to know that next week we actually 769 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: are gonna have a chance to hear from Todd munkin 770 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: his press conference is going to be Tuesday afternoon. Um 771 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: so he's gonna meet with media, so we'll have a 772 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: chance to ask him all these questions, what your offense 773 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: go look like, how much you're gonna use twel person 774 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: Are you gonna be the twelve personnel guy Arena, that'll 775 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: be my guy, Jonas, You're gonna fire off that question, 776 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 1: um and so as always make sure that you leave 777 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: a review a five star review and subscribe to the podcast. Also, 778 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: we have a new podcast, is gonna well done. I 779 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: was just about to say this myself. Yeah, we have 780 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: a new podcast, feed the Ravens Press Pass. And what 781 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: that basically is going to be is a collection of 782 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: all of the press conferences that take place in this group. 783 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: Locker room interviews, press conferences, all that. Yeah, it's basically 784 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: you have a your credentialed. Yeah, you have your credential 785 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: you are a Ravens Media. You just can't ask questions. 786 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, that will give you the first hand you know, 787 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: you hear it from the horse's mouth, yep, from the 788 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: Raven's mouth, yep. And so that has already launched. It's 789 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: live for those who want to go back and listen 790 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: to Eric's cousin, John Harball's press conference. So you can 791 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: go back and do that now. And as you're saying, 792 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: Todd Munkin's introductory press conference will also learn there. So 793 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: make sure that you subscribe and pass that on to 794 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: friends and family as well. Absolutely, so, thank you so 795 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: much for listening. We will talk with you again next 796 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: week