1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: in the stragedyer of normalcy. Welcome to One Bill's Live. 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker in for you this week. You're you are 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: relegated to my hosting the show as Chris Brown's going 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: to be out for the week. I think a staycation 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: is is in order for him and the fam. And 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm pleased to be joined today, uh with a good 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: friend of the show, Josh Ree. Josh, thanks for coming in, man, 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Absolutely always stuff we you know, 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: we always refer to this as the darks at well 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: as you see a picture of the stadium, there couldn't 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: be any brighter, but this is always kind of the 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: dark time in the NFL. We would Jay Harris and 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: I walked through the administration building here and because they 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: have coffee upstairs, you know, so and only this last 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, a few months, has everything been completely opened 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: back up since the pandemic and all that. So we 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: go walking up there, we look back down towards the 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: wing of the building that's the coaching and the lights 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: are out, the hallways dark, it looks like a cave. 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: Everybody's gone. Yeah, that doesn't happen often, No, not in NFL, 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: but only at this time of year, and every every 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: team is the exact same way, and the sports media 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: kind of follows that. Everybody jams their vacation into this 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: little little window. Hence why we were off all last 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: week and half the week last week, and we've still 29 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Brownie and I still have scattered days off all the 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: way through training camp. Yeah, you got to get them 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: in because because once Fisher's coming up, and once that happens, yes, yes, 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: that's right, we come up for air in March hopefully, right, 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: you shift gears and you don't let your foot off 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: the gas. It's like it's like f one. If there's 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: it's fun, there's a hint of hesitation. You're lost. There 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: are long days. But that season it's crazy because you 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: get end up there, like I said, long days, but 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: you get to week fifteen, weeks sixty, all of a 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: sudden you go where the season go. It's tumbling downhill 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: is what happens when you get your tee off on 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: week one and it's like, oh my gosh, it's week ten. 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's it's Thanksgiving. Oh my gosh. You 43 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean, especially when the season's going well, 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: because because when I first got here, there were Rex's 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: first two years, and some of those couple of seasons 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: there those eventful, but since Sean and Brandon got here, 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: the season seemed to go. Talking about this, and I 48 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: was thinking about this because I was. I was. I've 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: been in this building and won a shape, way, shape 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: or form since nineteen eighty six. So I've been in 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: and around the team for that long. And seriously, it's 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: been since Super Bowl, since the regular season of nineteen 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: ninety one, since the team had the kind of expectations 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: attached to it that this team does this year. The 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: Bills were coming off of super Bowl twenty five where 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: they lost wide right, and they were coming back in 57 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: the second and it was a no free agency at 58 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: that time. They were rolling and everybody was mad, and 59 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we just met here. We it was 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: that kind of expectation. It was super Bowl or nothing 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: in that season. That's what it is this year for 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and it's and people are like, wow, 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't like the sound of that. 64 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: It's like you're putting a hex on it. So you know, 65 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: all the superstitious stuff here, but let me tell you something. 66 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: You earn that stuff. It's true. They don't just bestow 67 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: that upon you for no reason. The bills are there 68 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: for a reason. And Josh is a big part of it. 69 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's a big part of it, Brandon Bean's a 70 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: big part of it. Von Miller is a big part 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: of it. Steph Gabriel Davis, von Miller. They have stars. 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: They are they have stars. They're the major positions now 73 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: they are. They're interesting beyond belief, and it's uh, it's 74 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: for good reason. And so here we are in this 75 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: dark part of the thing, and you think, well, what 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: are we gonna talk about this week? Listen, Lamar Jackson 77 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: just stripped changed his Twitter account handle. Now he's saying 78 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: I want money after being silent not and just like 79 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: he honestly pooh pooed the idea of this contract. And 80 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: it's a former MVP quarterback and he's just been dragged. 81 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: It's like he's been dragging his feet, right, yeah, I mean, 82 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: and the thing is that that's an interesting franchise because 83 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens seem to do it the right way most 84 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: of the time. Harbaugh has been there forever, it seems 85 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: they just seem to do things, even going back to 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: when Ozzie Newsome was kind of running the show and 87 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: the front office there, they just always seem to do 88 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: things the right way. But this Lamar Jackson situation is 89 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: very interesting. He changed he changed his Twitter banner, not 90 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: his handle, but his Twitter banner, and it says I 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: need dollar. Sign It's on a set of gold teeth 92 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: from somebody. It's not Lamar. I don't think that somebody's 93 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: teeth that says I need money. Well, I could have 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: platinum teeth if he had money, right, I mean he's yeah, 95 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: he's relegated to gold teeth. I guess so he For 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: those of you who don't know, Lamar Jackson is represented 97 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: by himself and his mom. Okay, so all right, fine, 98 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: So you don't want to pay your agent three percent 99 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: of a thirty five or forty or thirty five million 100 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: dollars a year, fifty million dollars or whatever it's going 101 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: to be. You don't want to pay him three percent 102 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: of that? Does that strike you as a nickel and 103 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: dime thing. If you're gonna nickel and dime, you want 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: to save up that three percent on the chances that 105 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: you don't have to pay anybody. Are you gonna nickel 106 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: and dime the Baltimore Ravens two over the contract? Yeah, 107 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I guess I don't know the 108 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: specifics of his mom's background. If she is versed in 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: something like this, absolutely, But if it's just she's representing you, 110 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: she could be. She could be a lawyer. Right. If 111 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: she is, that's a little different. I haven't heard that. 112 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: But if she's not, then yeah, I mean that's something 113 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: you want to spend extra money on. You don't want 114 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: to be cutting corners on an attorney that's going to 115 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: and an agent that's going to represent you and millions 116 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: and millions of dollars are going to be on the line. Yeah, 117 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: that's that's an investment you're gonna want to make. Yeah, 118 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of I'm with you on that. I 119 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: think that's and he is one of the few guys 120 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: playing in the league who has been an MVP. Last 121 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: year he was marred by injury. He was playing well 122 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: before he got injured, and what can you say I 123 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: can see that guy though the league started to catch 124 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: up to him. We can't say that about a lot 125 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: of things. And certainly here's the thing. You have to 126 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: be able to win more than one way, no question 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: about it. Offensively and defensively. You can't just be a 128 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: blitz blitz blitz blitz team and think you're gonna win 129 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: that way because teams will have an answer. You can't 130 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: just be a run run, run, run, run offense because 131 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: teams will stop that and have an answer. There's no 132 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: magic elixer. Even as a as a big name quarterback, 133 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: you're you know, you solve a lot of problems. But 134 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: whatever your strengths or weaknesses are, whether it's be you 135 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: or the people around und you, teams can get a 136 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: handle on it. Um you have to win more than 137 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: one way in the league. And you know, people are 138 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: still questioning whether Lamar can beat you from the pocket, 139 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: because ultimately that's a good question because he hasn't had 140 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: a chance. Like last year, he didn't have a chance 141 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: to show that he had grown in that respect. Certainly, 142 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: when he got into the playoffs against the Buffalo Bills 143 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: in this building, they scored three points against him. That 144 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: ain't enough. And the Bills have that defense that's unspectacular 145 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: but yet number one. Yeah, I mean they're they're tough 146 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: to beat. So Lamar Jackson has some things to prove 147 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: in the league, even though he's a you know, has 148 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: been a recently an MVP, and they haven't done a 149 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: great job in surrounding him with weapons either in the backfield. 150 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: That's a little different because they usually find some running 151 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: backs and if that's their game plan on how they 152 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: want to win, and it seems like it is, they 153 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: haven't exactly gone out and surrounded at him with a 154 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: Steph Diggs. That may be, you know, a stud wide. 155 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: That may be the acid test, because in free agency, 156 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: if I'm Steph Diggs, I don't want to go to 157 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: Baltimore run block. You know, they may draft some guys, 158 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: but they're gonna have to be the right guys. And 159 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, quite frankly, if you need guys to make 160 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: Lamar better in the passing game, you got to prove 161 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: to them you're gonna throw it more than you run it, 162 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: a lot more than you run it. And and I 163 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: don't know if I believe that you can't invest the 164 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: amount of money the wide receivers are making. Now, you 165 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: can't invest in the top seven eight wide out that 166 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: kind of money and then and then run the ball 167 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: forty times. Yeah, exactly. Steve Tasker and Josh Reid here 168 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live. We're gonna be with you until 169 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: three o'clock. We've got a ton of stuff going on. 170 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso of CBS Sports is coming on with us 171 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: later in the show to talk about all things um. 172 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: We also have news and notes from around the league. 173 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: And also we're gonna leave this question with you. Who's 174 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: the most overlooked player on the bills roster? Kind of 175 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: gotta double question today, who's the most overlooked player on 176 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: the Bill's roster? You tell us why? And also this 177 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: happened to you when you're on vacation. He was out 178 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: and you were driving by a basketball court and you 179 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: heard something. What was it? Yeah, so there were some 180 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: kids playing. The age range was probably around ten twelve 181 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: years old. And yeah, the one kid goes, right before 182 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: the game starts, I'm Steph Curry. The other kid goes, 183 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Tatum, and then the kids just start rattling 184 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: off the NBA players, you know, the stars, names, Lebron 185 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: and Jonas and it took me back to being a kid. 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: You remember when you're playing in the playground and everybody 187 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: immediately goes oh, you know, and for me growing up Northeast, Ohio, 188 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: it was Mark Price anytime it was basketball, is I Oh, 189 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to be Mark Price and you know, just 190 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: kind of then you think that you are them, you know, 191 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: you not that it made it any I was not 192 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: Mark Price by any means, find a stretch of the imagination. 193 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, it kind of took me back to being 194 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: a kid again. And it was funny. I put it 195 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: up on Twitter and I had a lot of Buffalo 196 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: sports fans, you know, kind of respond to it. And 197 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Miller's name came up an awful lot. Not not 198 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: surprising either. Yeah, when I was a kid, it was 199 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: guys like uh for me in football. I grew up 200 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: in Kansas, so you know, Kansas City Chiefs were big. 201 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: So I was a big Otis Taylor fan, uh, Ed Podolak, 202 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: those kind of guys. Um were the guys that I 203 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: wanted to you know, thought of Lenny Dawson. That's how 204 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: old I am. See Lenny Dawson grew up in my 205 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: hometown right in a Lince, Ohio. It's right, yeah, that's right. 206 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: I Actually the first job ever was a waiter at 207 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: his restaurant, Dawson's. It was called yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, 208 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, so that's so you can do that. If 209 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: you want to chime in, you can call an eighty 210 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty, which is a most overlooked player 211 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: on the Bill's roster, or who is that guy that 212 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: you wanted to that you called yourself when you were 213 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: playing as a kid in the driveway. Also, we're getting 214 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: close to as we're all we're all sitting here just 215 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: like tapping our foot, looking, you know, looking at the watch, 216 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: waiting for training camp to open. On the July twenty 217 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: fourth is when they report that Monday, July twenty fifth, 218 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna take the field and the team's gonna start July. 219 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher be there b square. July twenty fifth 220 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: is when the first practice is all that's going on. 221 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: He look back at what we have gone through. Our 222 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: buddy Chris Brown, who's not with us today, he's on vacation, 223 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: but he did a nice little article on the website 224 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: about the six and half a dozen things that The 225 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Bill's really got right in the off season. They really 226 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: got it right. And it starts with where you might 227 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: expect Josh Allen, what do you think I mean at 228 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: the end of last year and we saw you've seen 229 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: the clips on the sideline of Josh talking to the guys, 230 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, and see we've seen him develop it's his team. 231 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm I am amazed at how he handles start him. Yeah, 232 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: because he's a star. He's just he's a superstar. He's 233 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: not a star in Buffalo. He is a star what 234 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: crossed the country. When you're in a match with Rogers 235 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: Brady Mahomes and you're and you're in the fourth or 236 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: the third or the second or whatever, Yeah, you're a superstar. 237 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: It was incredible, you know, the the Bills hosted a 238 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: media golf outing and everything, and and and Josh was 239 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: in the foursome with me. I got lucky, you got 240 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: a chance to play with him. It was unbelievable. There 241 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: were people in carts that were didn't have golf clubs 242 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: on their carts. They were drive by just to see him, 243 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: just to see him on a golf course, just drive by. 244 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: Just a couple of them would stop and ask for pictures. 245 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: He took a picture with every last fan that asked, 246 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: every single one. And I'm telling you, in eighteen holes, 247 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: there must have been twenty people that stopped and asked. 248 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: Maybe thirty. There was a we we got to maybe 249 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: the next to last hole. There was a guy standing 250 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: in the bushes along along he was. He had a 251 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: jersey out and he was ready to ask him to 252 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: sign it. It is amazing. And now he handles it 253 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: because it's a lot, and it's a lot, and he 254 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: does it the right way. It's hard for Josh to 255 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: stick his head out his front door and let me 256 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: certainly he does. Going for gas is a big experience, 257 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's an expedition for him. He may 258 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: not get out of there, you know. Can you imagine 259 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: pulling up getting gas and you look over and there's 260 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: Josh Allen standing there next to you pumping his you know, 261 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: going to this. He can't go to the supermarket. Are 262 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: you kidding me? Right? So it's different life, but he 263 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: handles it. He handles it fantastic. Obviously I've rubbed up, 264 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: you know, I've done a bunch of stuff with him, 265 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: and we're real friendly. But it's it's it's reminiscent of 266 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly when he first came to town. Josh. The 267 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: way that Josh splashed onto the scene was a little 268 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: more Crescendoed started small and grew and Jim started at 269 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: full volume because of the way things happened back then. 270 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: It's the same kind of thing. Both of them were superstars. 271 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: Both of them are great players. Yeah, but Jim was 272 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: a star coming into the league, right, Josh was very 273 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: a lot of questions. That's right, he was draft That's why. Yeah, 274 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he's he's earned it. Yeah, 275 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Jim came in to damp and you go to the 276 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: U and the USFL, and you throw for fifty touchdowns 277 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: in the pros and star before you get here. You 278 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: got people hanging off the overpass when you land in 279 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: the air. Nobody and I said this when Jim went 280 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, Nobody arrived to an NFL 281 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: team with higher expectations and more fanfare than Jim Kelly 282 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: and Jim bless his heart, could not have come through 283 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: in a bigger way. Or you can say what you 284 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: wanted about winning a super Bowl instead of going to 285 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: fourth straight. But he's still had a stretch like no 286 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: other quarterback has had in the NFL in history. So 287 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: and he's a first ballot Hall of Famer for goodness sake, 288 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: so you know, try and come through like that. Not 289 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: too many guys can, particularly with the fanfare that was 290 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: attached to him. Josh is there now, but let's fay, 291 00:14:53,840 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: he's going into year five, so same level now. But 292 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: they got there in two different ways. And Josh has 293 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: earned every bit of his and Jim certainly earned his 294 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: after he got here and lived up to it. But man, 295 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: both those guys, it's a different life. You witnessed it, 296 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: you aven I witnessed it too. When we do car commercials. Yeah, 297 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean I could go on and on about sure, 298 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: how it's different when he's on a set rather than 299 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: it's just a little jamoke me right, So everything changes. 300 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: So it's pretty funny, but it's right. But that's one 301 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: of the things we're talking about this this article about 302 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: Chris Brown and some of the six things that the 303 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: Bill's got right in the offseason. Another one after the 304 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: leadership and the step forward the Josh has taken. Another 305 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: one was the big roster difference, and where it starts 306 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: is really with the defensive line hallmarked and kem yeah, 307 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: Mark Heed, by Von Miller signing as a Buffalo Bill, 308 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: and then also with you know Jordan Phillips coming back, 309 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson and back Boogie Basham and Greg Russo coming 310 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: back and looking like two different guys. And then oh yeah, 311 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: and there's you know, Juan Jones day Kwan Jones. And 312 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm telling you von Miller. I can't believe the Bills 313 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: got him and I and I said this A bunch 314 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: on the show guys have said, hey, can you get 315 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: me a Miller jersey? And I'm like, Miller, who Who's Miller? 316 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: And I keep forgetting Oh, von Miller is on the Bills. 317 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable to me that that happened, and it happened, 318 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: and you were talking like nine things happened in the 319 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: NFL on that week and Von Miller was one of them. 320 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: So it's hard to even keep it on your radar. 321 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: But every time I think about it, I was like, 322 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they're talking to a buddy of mine, 323 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: a Ravens fan, and he said, what did the what 324 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: did the Bills really do this offseason? He didn't follow him. 325 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: He said well, I mean they added Von Miller, the 326 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: guy who's got plenty left in the tank that's gonna 327 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: be in Canton, Ohio. And he went, oh, yeah, that's right. 328 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: I forgot. They have him totally under the radar. I 329 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: feel like it happened forever ago, I know, right, And then, 330 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: like you said, I feel like there were two or 331 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: three other big names that signed right around there, so 332 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: he was one of them. But you know, as the 333 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: NFL wheel turns, they go on to the next next 334 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: step immediately. Yeah, and so you know that that's a 335 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: big difference. And I think the Bills did get right. 336 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: They their defensive line was not substandard last year. But 337 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: like I said, and I've said it all offseason, their 338 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: defense was awesome, but unspectacular. You know, they didn't get 339 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: nine thousand sacks. They were in the top ten in sacks, 340 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: but they were number one defense in four or five 341 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: key categories. They were tough, but they were unspectacular. Not 342 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: a ton of turnovers, not these big sack at a 343 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: timely moment. It was not a you know, a tipped 344 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: pass interception, you know, um, that was not the hallmark 345 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: of their defense. Their defense was just tough to move 346 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: the ball on and they make it. They make you 347 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: do it twelve play drives, they'll let yeah, yeah, you're right, 348 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: you got to go the long way. One of the 349 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: one of the things that I found interesting that Brandon 350 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: being one of his comments this offseason that still sticks 351 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: with me. He was asked a lot about the possibility 352 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: of adding a defensive back, whether it was free agency 353 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: or the draft, and this was before both of those happened, 354 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: and then it all kind of settled down and everything 355 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: and everybody went, oh, you really didn't add anybody in 356 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: the second day. This is after free agency, and he said, 357 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: we feel like if we helped our up front, they 358 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: would trickle down and we get we get more pressure 359 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: on the quarterback that helps the secondary. And that just 360 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: really stuck with me because that's kind of the way 361 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: they did it. There's a couple of different ways to 362 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: solve the problem. We've talked about the debate that analytics 363 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: people to start having between coverage and pass rush, and 364 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: analytics people say now that coverage is way more important 365 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: than having a dynamic pass rush, because even if you 366 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: have a dynamic pass rush, the guy stepped out of 367 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: trouble extends the play and your pass rush is then 368 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: relegated to chasing the guy around and the secondaries under 369 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: intense pressure. But if you've got a secondary that's up 370 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: to it, that negates the guy's ability to throw the 371 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: football even after her breaks contained. So but like you 372 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: said as well, when you got a secondary that's at 373 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: the level that the Bills have, give him a pass 374 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: rush too, and then all of a sudden, I think 375 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: that's you have to look at both things, no question, 376 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean, both things are complimentary. But I think you're right. 377 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: I think this is a secondary that would benefit from 378 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: just maybe an two tents of a second, you know 379 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: what I mean, And that's probably a von Miller trickle 380 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: down effect, right. The third thing too, is one of 381 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the most talked about newcomers, but aside from von Miller, 382 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: which really I think James Cook has been talked about 383 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: more than von Miller just because of what we said. 384 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: He's kind of it happened so fast and everybody went 385 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: on to the next thing so fast. The draft really 386 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: grabs everybody's attention, and James Cook was really the one 387 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: intriguing guy now because a lot of people I think 388 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: just mentally checked off that Kyer Elam is gonna get 389 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: plugged in and he's gonna be CB two, and then 390 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: here we go. James Cook is a different cat. His 391 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: skill set is different. He's a little bit more, even 392 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: more so than Lashawn McCoy was. McCoy was a dynamic player, 393 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 1: a really good player, maybe on the cuspop of being 394 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame caliber player over the course of 395 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: his career. But James Cook's got a skill set that 396 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: I think translates extremely well into what the NFL is today, 397 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: and I think he has I think when the Bills, 398 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: you talk about what the Bills added to an offense, 399 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: that guy right there, James Cook, might be a piece 400 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: that that maybe puts them over the top. You know, 401 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: they say certain guys just look different. He was a 402 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: guy that watching them in OTAs in mini camps, he 403 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: just looked a little different. He's quicker, he's just he's 404 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: got he's got another level that he can get to 405 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: speed wise and explosiveness that you go, well, that's well, 406 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: that looks a little different. I don't want to say anything. 407 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a second round pick, but when you 408 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: get at that high the draft, when you drop from 409 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 1: the second round of the third round and you got 410 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: Zach Moss and Devin Singletary picked in the third round, 411 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: and nobody takes running backs in the first round unless 412 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: they're something different, and that means running the football like 413 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: size and all that. Guys like James Cook, their physical 414 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: traits boost them up, forget about their If James Cook 415 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: had the same traits and was smaller and slower, he 416 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: would have been a fourth rounder. But because he's bigger 417 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: and faster now he's up into the into the second 418 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: round and maybe pushing for the first round and some people. 419 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: So that's why he's different. And you can even casual 420 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: fans will look at them and say, wow, that guy's 421 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: a different kind of athlete than what they've had before. 422 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see what Dorsey does with 423 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: him in that system, rest and obviously new offensive coordinator 424 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: and a new piece of the puzzle. It's going to 425 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: be really, really intriguing. And you talk about two some 426 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: of the other things, these other things that the Bills 427 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: got right during this last offseason. One of the fourth 428 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: thing that Brownie has in his in his article is 429 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: m comment about Greg Russo and Boogie Basham two guy, 430 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: you and I both you said, Greg Russou looks like 431 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: a different cat, and I said, boogie basham does Both 432 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: these guys are physically different than they were twelve months ago. 433 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: They look like they shed the baby weight, right. That's 434 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: kind of when they went to lack of a bet 435 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: room being a twelve year old kid to a fifteen 436 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: year old Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, it 437 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: just yeah, you know what I mean when I say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 438 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: And it just you look at him and you go, 439 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: that looks like an eight year vet now, yeah, you know, 440 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: and it's and it's it is pretty amazing. And you 441 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: talk to these guys after year one going into year two, 442 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: and most of them say it's a nutrition thing. Most 443 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: of them say they get their own cook you know, 444 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: they kind of figure out the right way what they 445 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: need to do eating, you know, working out and stuff. 446 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: And I don't know, but those two figured it out. 447 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: And man, I need to find out what plans are 448 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: on because a part of this, and a part of 449 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: this is the program they're in and how you get 450 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: into the bunch of there's a bunch. It's complicated, no question, 451 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: there's a lot of layers to this, but all a 452 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: couple of them are this. They don't pick guys that 453 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: aren't committed. So the Bills grab guys like Greg Russo, 454 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: Greg Russo and boogie bash them. They get them in 455 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: and not because because they're great players and because they're 456 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: gifted physically, because they have some college production, because they 457 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: came from good schools, because they played at a high 458 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: level of competition. All of that gets them an interview. 459 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: And when they get into that interview, those guys try 460 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: and dissect what their psyche is because they know that 461 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: one of the hallmarks of this program is and one 462 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: of the reasons it is that is when a guy 463 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: comes in the door two or three years down the road, 464 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: he's way better. And that's been one of the hallmarks 465 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: and one of the reasons the Bills have gotten to 466 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: be this juggernaut of a team that says, this is 467 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: the team you're gonna pick to win the Super Bowl 468 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: because every guy that walks in the door plays better 469 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: week after week after week after week, and certainly year 470 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: after year and year over year. They're better and better 471 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: and better because the coaching staff works on them and 472 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: they got in the door because they're that kind of guy. 473 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: And the rosters better now, so Guess what, if you're 474 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: not good and you're not pushing yourself to be better, 475 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: you won't play. They don't have to play you anymore. 476 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: They just don't. They have so much talent on the 477 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: roster that guess what it's if you're a second round pick. 478 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that a second round pick year two 479 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be Look here's a great example. Aj Apinessa 480 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: was a pretty high draft pick. Ajpiness A better better 481 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: put some put some stuff on film this preseason because Boogie, 482 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talent on that defensive line. These guys, 483 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: the rosters that's really talented now. And here's the thing 484 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: to u because they're that kind of guy. Because Greg 485 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: Rousseau has this appetite to be better, and Boogie bash 486 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: him obvious. They've proven it. I mean you go out 487 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: there and look at him. You just can't deny it. 488 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: They've got it's important to them. They want to get 489 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: on the field. They don't want to be a healthy 490 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: scratch this offseason. This you know, they don't want to 491 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: be one of the inactives. And and Boogie certainly was 492 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: that last year, and last year it was Jerry Hughes 493 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: and a guy who played double double digits in the 494 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: league is ten year, eleven year guy. And now Vaughan 495 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: Miller's in the room there in that guy's hip pocket, 496 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 1: saying how do I how do I do what you did? 497 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: How did you do that? I want to learn that? Um. 498 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: Being open to that and being and asking the right 499 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: questions and watching and learning and being humble enough to say, man, 500 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: that guy's got it and I don't. I want to 501 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: get it. Rushers Academy and that's big. That's huge. Those 502 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 1: are big, UM. So I think those two guys are 503 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: indicative of why this club has been so good. Guys 504 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: like Matt Milano, fifth round draft pick Terren Taran Johnson, 505 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: who's maybe as good as slot corners there is in 506 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: the league. Dane Jackson, who is you? Man? Oh? Now? 507 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: He played CB one since Thanksgiving last year on a 508 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: number one defense. Levi Wallace developed Levy Wallace enough that 509 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers, an organization that seems to figure things out 510 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: most of the time, wanted him. Yeah. Right, All of 511 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: these guys that when they came in was one of 512 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: the first things that built that Sean McDermott did. They 513 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: signed Micah Hyde and Jordan Poor, and back then we're 514 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: all I going to you signed who looking back that 515 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: Micah Hyde signing, I honestly believe, as we sit here today, 516 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: that is really what swung the pendulum. I really do 517 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: he well, I don't think I don't think we truly 518 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: can gauge what he means inside that locker, what he 519 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: means to that roster. He's incredibly committed, incredibly intelligent, great communicator, 520 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: he's humble, he's a winner, and guys guys want to 521 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: be like they want to play for him, they want 522 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: to play with him, they want to be on his team, 523 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: they want to learn from him. Um, that's everything you 524 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: can possibly get. Guys like Greg Russo and Boogie Bashing 525 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: come in and they rub up against Micah Hyde and 526 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 1: they watch him and see him and hear him talk 527 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: to his teammates. All of that stuff goes into the 528 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: model and this play. Yeah, we're watching the first series 529 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: for the Patriots in the wildcard playoff round where Mike 530 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: It comes from nowhere and picks that ball off. I 531 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: was standing over there and I saw the play happen, 532 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: and it happened so fast, and he closed that so fast. 533 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: I thought, oh man, they've got him, he's gonna catch that, 534 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: no hype, I go, oh my gosh. It was incredible. 535 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: It was one of the It was one of the 536 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: great plays I've seen in person. That play was every 537 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: bit as good as Tarn Johnson's one hundred and one 538 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: yard pick six. Ye, both of them were just as 539 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: important as well. If mac Jones completes that ball for 540 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown, it's seven to seven, and it might have 541 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: been a little bit of a different game. Although that play, 542 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, the Bills absolutely were perfect 543 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: offensively in that game. They were just that game was 544 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: not going to go in any other direction. But that 545 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: play just snuffed, snuffed all hope, all emotional content the 546 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Patriots brought with him. They put together gone that first. 547 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: I've gone, I've watched it. I go back and watch 548 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: these old games. I say, old games are eight months old. 549 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: I watch it and I and I remember the emotion 550 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: and the things that happened during those games. And they 551 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: strung together. They had like two huge conversions on their 552 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: first drive, trying to hang in there with a Bills 553 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: team that went down and just think through the ball 554 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: away at the back of the end zone. No Dawson 555 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: knocks shows up, gets it seven nothing, So they kind 556 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: of struggle and they strive and it's a long drive 557 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: and they kind of go for it at that point 558 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: and it gets picked off and you feel like they 559 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: had it everything. It went as good as it could 560 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: have gone for them in that first drive and they 561 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, no points, we got nothing, and here 562 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: we go again and they go back to score again. 563 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, all of that stuff going on that play 564 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: was quintessential play for that team. And that's why Micah 565 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: Hyde and the example he sets and all the stuff, 566 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: and guys like Greg Russeau, Boogie Basham and the guys 567 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: they bring in have to be of a right mentality 568 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: and personality so they will get better. We give so 569 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: much credit to the coaches and they deserve a ton 570 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: of it and the atmosphere and the culture, but getting 571 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: better is ultimately on the guy who wears the helmet. 572 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: It's gotta be in here, Dan, It's got to be. 573 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: If it's not in there, no one's gonna be able 574 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: to get it out right. Steve Tasker, Josh Reid in 575 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: for you. We're gonna be here till three. We're gonna 576 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: take a break. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. 577 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back, Chris, but Chris Trepasso from CBS 578 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: Sports coming up at the top of the hour. We've 579 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: got more right after this. This is One Bills Live 580 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: in Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. 581 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Josh Reid in for Chris Brown this week, 582 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: and we're talking a little bit about an article that 583 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: my buddy, our buddy, Chris Brown wrote on the website. 584 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: Six things that the Bills got right in this offseason. 585 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: First one was Josh Allen becoming the leader, the kind 586 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: of centerpiece. It's his team now, kind of entering that 587 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: elite status. Then it was the defensive line changes, Von 588 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: Miller and all the new guys they brought in beefing 589 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: up the front. Also James Cook being really the most 590 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: talked about newcomer, and the guys who changed their bodies 591 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: up on the defensive line, Boogie Basham, Greg Rousseau and 592 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: the commitment they've shown about getting on the field and 593 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: making contribution. And then we had some another one the 594 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: Latin next one Josh's two most encouraging player forecast one 595 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: obviously Gabriel Davis, who every nobody can stop talking about 596 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: the game he had to finish the season, the fourth 597 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: touchdown game in Kansas City where the Bills go down 598 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: score and he gets his fourth touchdown to you know, 599 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: put him up with you know, seconds left and ultimately 600 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: didn't win the game. But what a performance Gabe have. 601 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: And then of course Ed Oliver coming in and with 602 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: the with the beefed up defensive line, everybody looking for 603 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: him to take an enormous step forward. These the most 604 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: encouraging player forecast, Gabe Davis had Oliver. What do you 605 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: think about those two players? And obviously Gabe Davis looking 606 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: to take a ton more snaps this year than he 607 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: ever has. Yeah, the wide receiver room looks a lot 608 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: different going in going into this season. Obviously Cole Beasley's gone, 609 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders is gone. You know what you have in 610 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: the a one guy, right Stefan Jigs. You know, so 611 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: you just kind of move on from there, you know 612 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: what that is? Go you go right to Gabe Davis 613 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: because you at least the Bills are planning on him 614 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: to be that that number two guy now, and I mean, 615 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: from what we've seen, there's no reason to think that 616 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: he can't be that guy. And they have enough weapons 617 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: that Josh isn't gonna have to force feed him the ball, 618 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: just like he doesn't with Steph Diggs. He doesn't force 619 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: feed him the ball. Now, there are times that you 620 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: can tell that Josh thinks I need to get him 621 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: in a rhythm early in a game, and he'll make 622 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: sure that he gets his touches early. But Gabriel Davis, 623 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to have a very 624 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: good season. Now. I see some of the projections of oh, 625 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, twelve hundred yards, maybe ten touchdowns. I'm like, hey, hey, 626 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about that because I 627 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: think they've got enough playmakers all throughout the offense. I mean, 628 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, Dawson Knox. I still think there's a little 629 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: bit left to squeeze out of Dawson Knox. So he's 630 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna make some plays in that offense too. 631 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, Gabriel Davis and anytime, and I'm not even 632 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: talking about just after this Chief game, you go back 633 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: and listen to anytime Josh Allen was asked about Gabriel 634 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: Davis and even going back to Brian Dable when he 635 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: was asked about Gabriel Davis, and it was always talked. 636 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: They talked off the charts about him and his ability 637 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: to learn and know the playbook and be able to 638 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: step into different roles. And you know, it's it's his 639 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: time to shine. Now he's gonna get He's gonna get 640 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: his opportunity. Yeah he is. And he's and that's the 641 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: thing too, He's just gonna get more opportunity. He's the 642 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: fourth wide receiver last year and burst onto the scene 643 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: and at the end of the season where it was 644 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: him instead of Emmanuel Sanders. I mean, they he was 645 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: on the field and that says a lot about his development, 646 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: about where he's at. And I go back to this 647 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: all the time. Twenty twenty, his rookie season, he caught 648 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: the first pass of the season that was a completion 649 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: from Josh as a rookie in his first game. Just 650 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: one of those guys that is steals confidence and he 651 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: trusts him, Josh, Josh trusts him, and I think most 652 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: fans do as well. I mean, and I'm like you, 653 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna over I don't care about twelve hundred 654 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: yards one hundred and ten k that's not my thing. 655 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: What I'm more concerned about is just having an offense 656 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: that's got enough weapons that you can keep up with 657 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: anybody on any given day. James Cook's in the mix. 658 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a you're gonna have a new package 659 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: of plays where he's split out and he's the number 660 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: one thing. And this is gonna be up to Ken 661 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: Dorsey as well. Don't forget Steph Diggs with I think 662 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: he averaged like eight targets a game, which is a 663 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: pretty good number, and sometimes he had like more than that. 664 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: Targets are the thing, So you're not gonna take targets 665 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: away from Steph Diggs and Gabe Davis is gonna get 666 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: all of Emmanuel Sanders targets. Jamison Crowd is gonna get 667 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley's targets. Isaiah McKenzie. I mean whose targets is 668 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: he gonna get? You know, you got some questions you 669 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: gotta answer. O. J. Howard, O J. Howard and Dawson Knox. 670 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: So there's all this stuff. They've got a lot of 671 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: guys and here's the thing too, and it's a great 672 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: locker room. You know that everybody knows that's they're notoriously 673 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: they all like each other and it's easy to do 674 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: that when you have maybe if you have three targets 675 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: a game and you get two catches and you get 676 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: like six touchdowns on the year or whatever, it's great. 677 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: Nobody cares. If you're winning. Hey, ask Shack loss. If 678 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: you're Jordan Phillips, how good that locker room is? Right, 679 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: right right? And when you're winning games a couple of years, 680 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: and guess what, you're winning games. When you're winning games, 681 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: all everybody wants. Everybodybody wants to just a chance to contribute. 682 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Just give me a chance to contribute it. But if 683 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: we're winning, that's fine. So you're kind of getting to 684 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: the point where it's gonna be like there's one football. 685 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be up to Josh and we'll see how 686 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: it goes. But certainly those two guys, Gabe Davidson when 687 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: and Ed Oliver as well. People are waiting on Ed Oliver. 688 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: And here's like, is ed Oliver gonna be one of 689 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: those guys that makes the guys around him better or 690 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: is he gonna need guys around and make him better. 691 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: You you said that a question. I think that's the question. 692 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: We We've been waiting on Ed Oliver and he has 693 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: shown some flashes, and with the upgrade and the guys 694 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: around him, this is this is a big, big, big 695 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: year for it, Oliver, I think yeah, And I think 696 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: he's got a chance statistically to put up huge numbers. 697 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: And we all know that that contract is coming around 698 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: the corner. In defensive tackles that can pressure the quarterback, 699 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: they get paid a lot of money. So it's it's 700 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting situation that he's gonna put the 701 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: bills in. Possibly, I think the bills would go, hey, fine, 702 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: have twelve sex. We'll figure out the rest of it, 703 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: like who cares? Right, Yeah, who cares? Go out the 704 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: best season of any defensive tackle that we've seen in 705 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: the last ten years. But look, I think ed Oliver 706 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: showed enough last season where you go, okay, he took 707 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: that next step. Now it's a matter of taking another step. 708 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: And I think having guys next to him on the out, 709 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: whether it's on the outside of him with von Miller 710 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: or next to him with de Kwon Jones. You know, 711 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: a big guy that can eat up some space, I 712 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: think that's really going to help at Oliver, I think 713 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: you're right. Before we get to the last thing on 714 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: this superlatives that the Bills got right in the offseason. 715 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: Let's go over and let's take a phone call. We've 716 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: got Judy in Buffalo. Judy, you're on the air with 717 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: Steve and Josh. Judy, what do you got for us? 718 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm intrigued with Tammy Doyle. I want to 719 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: know what the future holds for him. He seemed to 720 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: be very effective at the end of the years. He's 721 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: simply a backup line lineman. Used you know when they 722 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: need short yardage him And what do you think they 723 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: have in mind for him? Because I'm impressed with him. Yeah, 724 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Judy, and thanks for the call. I 725 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: guess a great question. I think one of the things 726 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: you got to know too is I don't know what 727 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: they're I think they wanted to be a starting offensive lineman, 728 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: if that's his thing, they wanted to be on the field. 729 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: He has athleticism to go out and do the stuff 730 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: you talked about, be a sixth offensive lineman, which means 731 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: also he's an eligible receiver. You know what I'm saying. 732 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: He's not just a guy that's going out there to 733 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: stand around. Um, he did he kind of touchdown this 734 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: last year. So he's got some athleticism, but he if 735 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: if you're intrigued with him, so are the Bills. But 736 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: he's got to be one of the guys we've been 737 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: talking about who gets better, because if you've got to 738 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: get on the if you want to play better, if 739 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: you want to play more, you got to play better. 740 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: And it's a it's a deep room on the offensive line. 741 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: Brandon has done a great job of building depth across 742 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: this roster. It's incredible. They're gonna be guys. This is 743 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: this is when you started to see the difference in 744 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: talent over the last couple of years. There's gonna be 745 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: a few guys that get cut off of this roster. 746 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 1: Then they're gonna get swallowed up on by another organization. 747 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: This is gonna start some games. Yeah, and you think 748 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Tommy Dowel could be one of 749 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, you got And I said this before, 750 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: and I've you know, if you heard it over the 751 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: years since back in the early nineties when that team 752 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: was going to the Super Bowl all the time, they'd 753 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: cut guys who went on to have great careers. They 754 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: went on to play have you know eight or ten 755 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: year careers for other teams, but they couldn't make that roster. 756 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: This is one of those. This is one of those roster. 757 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: Hen what are you gonna beat von Miller out? You know? No, 758 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: watch him play defensive line. When von Miller needs a break, 759 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: you can go in for a play and then you 760 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: got to come back out. I mean, that's how it's 761 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: gonna be. Um, Tommy Doyle's in that same boat. You 762 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: got Spencer Brown over there. You got Kessonberry from the 763 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: from the Titans. Kessonberry was the starting right tackle for 764 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: the number one seed in the playoffs last year in 765 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: the AFC. That runs the ball, that ran the football, run, 766 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: and the Bills want to run it better. Yes, the 767 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: same same thing was Saffold, Roger Saffold. He was on 768 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: that offensive line. They were the number one seed and 769 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: Tennessee last year and they ran the ball. Tommy Doyle's 770 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: got to get ahead of those guys somehow. That's that's 771 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: what you're looking at. It's a it's a hard group 772 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: to rise above. He's got youth on his side though, certainly, 773 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: which is good because the system. Yeah, he knows the 774 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: system and he's young, all right, ye'd be young again, 775 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: that's that's interesting and thanks for the call of Judy. 776 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: That's it's an interesting question, but that's what you're up against. 777 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: He's gotta beat better guys out and you gotta get 778 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: better yourself. This let's take one more call before we go. 779 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: Tim from north Tonawanda, you're you're talking about you're asking 780 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: about players being similar to the nineties. What's on your mind, Tim, Yeah, 781 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: I've you know, watched you guys over the years, and uh, 782 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: I equate a lot of players a similarities. Davis reminds 783 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: me of when James Lofton come in here and finished stuff, 784 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, the offense, the last piece for it. But 785 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: when you guys drafted James Cook, he reminds me of 786 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: young Barry Sanders. I watched him in both of those 787 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: guys in college and they are very similar. Just like 788 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: to hear your opinion on it, I don't know, I don't. 789 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. I don't see the 790 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders because James Cook is more of a I mean, 791 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders was a line up behind the quarterback guy 792 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: handed to him, and James Cook is more of a 793 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: guy that like you put him in the slot, you 794 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: split him out why and he put him out into 795 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: the routes. I see him. I see James Cook is 796 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: more as a receiving threat than I did Barry Sanders 797 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: as a guy you could hand the ball off to 798 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: thirty thirty five times a game. Yeah, I mean, what 799 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: do you see? Oh, Tim's gone, But that's what I saw. 800 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: I think that's different. Um, Now, I when you run 801 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: the ball, when he runs the ball, Yeah, you can 802 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: do something. But don't don't kid yourself. There's to me, 803 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: there's only one Barry Sanders. He was one of a kind, 804 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: and James Cook could be one of a kind as well. 805 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I see the similarities as 806 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: much as you do. He could be one of a kind, 807 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: just in a different role. Yeah, I don't think. I 808 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: don't think we'll ever see Cook, James Cook run the 809 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: ball thirty five times ever. No, don't nobody's gonna do 810 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: that anything. Yeah, you know, Derrick Henry, you might get 811 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: a shot at us Nick Chubb. Yeah, but guys, but 812 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: that's an anomaly in the league, in this league. But 813 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: James Lofton, I'll tell you what if Gabe Davis is 814 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: eighty percent of James lofton. I mean, James Loft is 815 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame. Yeah, I mean I get that, 816 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: but they're different kind of players as well. Yeah, just 817 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: before we go, before we wrap this up, you know, 818 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 1: and then this superl as we were talking about about 819 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: the Bills getting it wrong one thing, and I wanted 820 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: to bring it up just before we go to break here. 821 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: The thing that the Bills also got right in the 822 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: in the off season was the way they handled the 823 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: East Side shooting. This organization, along with the Sabers and 824 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: the entire community, jumped on board with what was going 825 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: on over on Jefferson Avenue and were symbolic I think, 826 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: if not, you know, hands on and get some tangible 827 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: stuff done and helped in tangible ways, no question, but 828 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: also served as a symbol of where everybody's heart was. 829 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: And I think it was a great example of how 830 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: much Buffalo people love Buffalo people and how much they're 831 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: willing to reach out and help each other. The Bills 832 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: were a part of that. It's one of the things 833 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: that happened that it was a tragic and horrific event 834 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 1: that happened in the off season here in Buffalo, and 835 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: nobody shied away from addressing it or being a part 836 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: of part of it and getting on the right side 837 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: of it. I think the Bills did get get that right. 838 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: So did PSC and so did the Sabers, and so 839 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: did a ton of other ministries and people who just 840 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of it, churches around the region, families, individuals, people, 841 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: all kinds of people just showing up, just wanting to help. 842 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: And I you know, the Bills might have been a 843 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: little symbolic of that because they're an organization people know about, 844 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: but certainly they weren't the only ones at all. And 845 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: and I was, I was proud of the way the 846 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: organization came in, the way Bruce came back and and 847 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: all the other the old guys came in and took 848 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: part in what in the aftermath of what happened on 849 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: Jefferson Avenue at the tops, And I was, I was 850 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: thankful for the team and grateful for what they did 851 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: and how they stepped up to that in that situation. Yeah, 852 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: that's well said. And to me, the thing that really 853 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: stood out was they were at the forefront of it too, 854 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: like they wanted to be Hey, they wanted to be 855 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: out there and they wanted to make sure that people 856 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: saw that they were here for the community. And I 857 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: thought that that was there was no sitting around waiting 858 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: to see how they could help. They went out and said, 859 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do to help. Right. A 860 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: criminal came in from the outside the city, came in 861 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: and scouted it out and went to a place where 862 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 1: he thought he could hurt the most people who didn't 863 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: look like him. And that's and it as it's insanity 864 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: at its height, and uh um, yeah, and it was 865 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: tragic and horrific and premeditated and all of that. So 866 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm really happy and pleased with and I hope it 867 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: doesn't stop. I mean, we want to keep on going. 868 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: Well not with this community. We're all part of this together, 869 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: and we're all we don't forget our own and and 870 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: that was part of it. So that was one of 871 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: the other that was kind of the final thing that 872 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: Chris put into that article, and I thought it was 873 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: a very poignant addition. Uh six things that the Bills 874 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: got right in the offseason and being more than just 875 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 1: a football team in the aftermath of the Jefferson Avenue 876 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: shootings was a big part of it. And I'm really 877 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: happy he added that to his to his list. Steve Tasker, 878 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: Josh Reid, We're gonna be here with you till three. 879 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna be back in a minute or two. This 880 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 1: is one Bills Live presented by Kalidah Health and Buffalo 881 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live. Wanted to 882 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: give you a reminder that coming up coming soon of Thursday, 883 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: July fourteenth, at seven sixteen pm, if you get the 884 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 1: seven one six reference, your city, your cause, your team's 885 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: is going to open up seven to one six. Get 886 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,240 Speaker 1: ready for seven one six day coming up on July sixteenth, 887 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: and you're gonna start by seven sixteen pm. Sean and 888 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: Jamie McDermott, along with the Bills and Sabers Foundations, are 889 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: going to match donations to your charities and then at 890 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: eight pm on Thursday that of the same night, eight pm, 891 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna give away one hundred hundred Josh Allen autographed 892 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 1: jerseys for the first hundred people who donate seven hundred 893 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: and sixteen dollars or more to one of the five 894 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five charities around Western New York. Then 895 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: on Friday, July fifteenth, it starts out seven am Delaware, 896 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: North is matching twenty five thousand. Eight AM Key Bank, 897 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: David Adams World Card World is matching all these are 898 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars matching Gramps Wegman's twenty five thousand 899 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 1: at noon one pm High Mark, four pm, M ANDT Bank, 900 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: East Buffalo, they're matching ten thousand dollars, And of course 901 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,240 Speaker 1: at five pm Rick Jinnerette, the first five hundred donors 902 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: of one hundred and seventeen dollars and sixteen cents or 903 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 1: more will receive an autographed Rick Jinnerette banner. And this 904 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: is a this is from a banner company. The banner 905 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: Company's gonna be a very nice memento. Also at six 906 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: pm him the Bills and Sabers Foundations will match twelve thousand, 907 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: five hundred. These are all on July fifteenth, and then 908 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: of course on seven one sixth day as well, So 909 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on coming up. Give seven one 910 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: six The Bills Sabers are all about it. Over five 911 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: hundred charities are gonna be receiving or available to be 912 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: a part of that for your So pick the one 913 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: that you like and it all goes in so you 914 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: can if you want those jerseys and all the stuff 915 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: that the prizes and the matching. You can give during 916 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: the time that your company's matching, or you can do 917 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: it at eight pm on the fourteenth for a Josh 918 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: Allen jersey, or you can be part of Sean and 919 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: Jamie McDermott's gift matching all of that stuff. So ton 920 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: going on. It's our city. We're really proud of it 921 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: for good reason and all. And it's they raise a 922 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: ton of money for a ton of charities. It's a 923 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: big day here in Buffalo. So be a part of it. Yeah, 924 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: not shocking. I mean I feel like it just never 925 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: ends with the community just giving back. Yeah, it's more charity. 926 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: I mean every I've had the opportunity to work, you know, 927 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: around the country in this industry and stuff, and and 928 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: there's never I've never lived in a place that does 929 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: what this community does. It's it's above and beyond. I 930 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: feel like every weekend it's another big charity event that's 931 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: going on for another great cause. And it's just and 932 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: the fact that they have you know, Sean and his 933 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: wife are connected to it, and you know, Josh Allen 934 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: helps out with so many different just it's awesome. It 935 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: is and it's part of who it isn't And I 936 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: think this too, one of the one of the things. 937 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: You know, Buffalo, We've all heard it for decade and 938 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: they still do. People like hammer Buffalo because the winters 939 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: we get in the weather and whatever. Um. Part of 940 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: the benefit of that is that when the good weather hits, 941 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 1: as it does, I mean, you go July, August, September, October, 942 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: you don't want to live anywhere else on the planet. 943 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: It's the best in Western New York. It's the best. 944 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: It is unbelievable here. So because of that, I think 945 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: this region and all the people in it, it really blooms. 946 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: I mean, our spirits bloom. People are people people, their 947 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,919 Speaker 1: whole attitude chan and I think because of the long 948 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: winters and the will the winters are okay. The spring 949 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: is really tough because it rains and it's the spring. Yeah, 950 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: you can't get outside spring. That's what really crushes people, right, 951 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: So all of that stuff when it does hit, when 952 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: the good weather does, and it always hits, man oh man, 953 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: the people's attitudes and their spirit and their the whole 954 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: region just you can see it open up like a 955 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: flower and stuff like this seven one sixth Day and 956 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: the stuff that happened with the Jefferson Avenue, and it 957 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: just gives everybody just looks for reasons to get together 958 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: and do good. Um, it's really a special place and 959 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons, you know, we've made our 960 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: home here and stayed here for thirty five plus years, 961 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 1: and it's just one of the great things. So seven 962 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: one sixth Day coming up. Be a part of it. 963 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: Starts actually on seven fourteen with the Bills and you 964 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: can look it up and there's prizes and incentives and 965 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of companies awesome uh, local companies jumping on 966 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: board with it, and we hope you'll be a part 967 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: of it as as we will be. Josh Read Steve 968 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 1: Tasker coming back, christ Passo, CBS Sports going to come 969 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: on with us here in studio. We're gonna have him 970 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: on for the next segment. So come back and join us. 971 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo 972 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all 973 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind 974 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:52,240 Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you. Steve, Steve a blimp. 975 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: We're not even in the strated here of normalcy. Walking 976 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: back from One Bill's Live, Steve Casker with Josh Reedbard 977 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: please to be joined by CBS Sports NFL and college 978 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: football analyst Chris Trepasso. Could wow Trepasso, friend of the show. 979 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, man, I appreciate it. Sorry about 980 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: screwing your name up. I'm trying to look at six 981 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: different I got three screens in front of me. Um. 982 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the show. We got a lot 983 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: to talk about. Even though it's July. Yeah, it's you know, 984 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm not wishing away the summer, but I think driving 985 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 1: here and coming back to the stadium, I'm like ready 986 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: for football season. I'm like, are the Bills playing on Sunday? 987 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm ready at this point. Fourth of July week 988 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: has done for football to be here back in Buffalo. Yeah, 989 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: we've we've been having a lot of fun with this. 990 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: We've been talking about we're getting We're gonna get to 991 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,720 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet after a while. But at the bottom 992 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: of the hour, maybe we asked, you know, what's the 993 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: most underrated player on the Bill's roster? Because you get 994 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: you start from the top, you go Josh and Von 995 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: Miller and the new guy you know, James Cook and 996 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: blah blah, you got all the way down the list. Um, 997 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,439 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's anybody who's been overlooked because 998 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 1: some of these guys that people are mentioning are starters 999 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: who have been depended on. Do you have anybody, I mean, 1000 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: who gets forgotten in all of this? For me, I 1001 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: can't even remember that we signed Von Miller. Yeah, I 1002 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: think underrated is still Matt Milano that recently there was 1003 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: a I think ESPN ran a pole of executives who 1004 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: are the top ten linebackers in the league, and Tremaine 1005 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: Edmunds was on that list. I think Matt Milano deserves 1006 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: to be on that list. What he does in coverage 1007 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: in today's NFL at the linebacker spot is absolutely paramount 1008 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,479 Speaker 1: to the Bill's defense being really good over the last 1009 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: four or five seasons. To be that smaller type linebacker 1010 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: that can cover running backs out of the backfield, makes 1011 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: a lot of splash plays in the backfield. Because he's 1012 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 1: so instinctive, so athletic. You don't think that someone else 1013 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 1: opposite Tremaine Edmonds gets as much hype as he should. 1014 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 1: That's Matt Milano. And when they ask him to go 1015 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 1: after the quarterback, he gets there. He's a good blitzer, 1016 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: he gets there. I mean, they don't ask him to 1017 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: do it a ton, but when they do, he's effective. Yeah. 1018 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting too that so many executives they put They 1019 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: put Tremaine Edmonds up there in the top ten lineback 1020 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: and Bill's fans are kind of unappreciative of Tremaine Edmonds because, 1021 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, but he's this huge physical specimen and all 1022 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: these teams are they have real problems with him, and 1023 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: plus his leadership and the guys that he knows everything 1024 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 1: there isn't know about the defense and he gets all 1025 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: of these guys lined up because he's kind of the 1026 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: polar opposite of what Matt Milano is, you know what 1027 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean, high draft pick, hugely physically gifted guy that's 1028 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: running all in charge of Matt Milano like a fifth 1029 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,320 Speaker 1: round guy, a little undersized one. Guy like Milano is 1030 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,280 Speaker 1: completely instinctive. And sometimes you see Tremaine Edmonds, it feels 1031 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: like he's kind of thinking through things while he's on 1032 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: the field, while Matt Milano it's like he couldn't tell 1033 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: you what number he's wearing. Yeah, right, so it's all 1034 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: simple for Milano and Tremaine Edmonds is neck deep and complicated, 1035 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: and for both of that, I think fans love and 1036 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: and and kind of disrespect both in different ways. Yeah, 1037 00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: that's a good way to put it. I think they 1038 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: just play off each other perfectly. That to be that 1039 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: six foot five, two hundred and fifty pound middle linebacker 1040 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: running down the seam. Over the last five years, I 1041 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: can't count on probably two hands how many passes have 1042 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: been completed on the Bills defense over the middle and 1043 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: that intermediate range. It doesn't show up on the stat sheet, 1044 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 1: but I think quarterbacks look down between the hash marks 1045 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 1: and see that Tremaine Edmund's specimen in the middle. They 1046 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: just don't make those passes very often because they can't. 1047 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 1: And then anything to the outside. With Matt Milano ranging 1048 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: sideline to sideline, covering swing passes, running backs out of 1049 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,240 Speaker 1: the backfield, even slot receivers at times, they just play 1050 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: off each other and probably compliment each other better than 1051 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: any other linebacker duo in the NFL. And we've seen 1052 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,839 Speaker 1: when Matt Milano's missed some games that defense doesn't look 1053 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 1: the same. No, when Matt Milano is not on the field, 1054 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: that defense just there's some things they can't do. In 1055 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, they Milana went out. It was out like 1056 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: five or six games, and they brought in Aj Klein, 1057 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: and they wanted to try and get Aj Cline to 1058 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: play like Matt Milano, and he couldn't do. He's out 1059 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: for like six or eight weeks. He was a lot 1060 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 1: for a while. So what happened was they finally said, listen, 1061 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: we can't, we can't. It's not working. There's nobody that 1062 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 1: can play like Matt Milanna. So they started asking aj 1063 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: Cline to do what he did well instead of filling 1064 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: in for Milan. He looked different after that, and Aj 1065 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: was better after that. He couldn't do what Milanna did, 1066 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: but they gave him stuff to do that he could 1067 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 1: do well, and they had to adjust the entire defense 1068 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: because of it, but they played better after that. We've 1069 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: been having this conversation, Chris, about running backs and about 1070 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: the role that James cook Miter might not have. We've 1071 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: had some people chime in and say Devin Singletary has 1072 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 1: been overlooked and Zach Moss is going to be overlooked. 1073 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: The running backs in general have been an afterthought in 1074 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: an offense led by Josh Allen, Steph Digson all and 1075 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,880 Speaker 1: that's easy to say. So as a result of that, 1076 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: James Cook has been like the top of the conversation 1077 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 1: for a long time. And you guys kind of did 1078 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: that on CBS Sports. You talked about the best rookie 1079 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, I have James Cook in the top 1080 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: five of rookie running backs in terms of just their 1081 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: production in year one. And from what you just mentioned, 1082 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: it's a Josh Allen offense. The Bills are a past 1083 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 1: heavy team, they're a past first team. But with James Cook, 1084 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 1: he brings what I think Brandon Bean has been looking 1085 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: for in the backfield in receiving ability and speed to 1086 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: run four four two, be very effortless with the ball 1087 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: in his hands, and be utilized on film differently than 1088 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 1: any other running back that I've ever scouted. They weren't 1089 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 1: just throwing him swing passes and screens. They were using 1090 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: him in the slot and on the outside running go routes, 1091 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 1: post routes at Georgia to be that effortless type like 1092 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,839 Speaker 1: his brother Delvin. To again compliment Devin Singletary, who's more 1093 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: of a slashing type, elusive better in the screen game. 1094 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 1: I think just to be in this offense, James Cook 1095 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: is in a luxurious situation, and new offensive coordinator Ken 1096 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: Dorsey will script some places for James Cook because he's 1097 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,040 Speaker 1: such a unique specimen out of the backfield. Yeah, I 1098 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 1: saw your list, Breues Sall. I think you had number one. 1099 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 1: What's some of the guys that really jump out, you know, 1100 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: along with Cook and Bruce Hall. Breeze Hall was at 1101 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,280 Speaker 1: number one. I think he was the most complete running 1102 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: back of this rookie class, and the Jets traded up 1103 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 1: for him in round two, which just kind of seems 1104 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 1: like they're going to use him as that workhorse type. 1105 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 1: It's obviously not what James Cook Roll is going to be. 1106 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 1: Isaiah Spiller was another running back who's now with the 1107 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: Chargers who I loved in this pre draft process. He 1108 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: has Austin Eckler in front of him, but I think 1109 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: he's capable of being that workhorse type. Rashad White was 1110 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: at number two on Tampa Bay with Tom Brady, who 1111 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: we know certainly loves to throw the football to running backs. 1112 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: That's really where Rashad White excelled when he was in college. 1113 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 1: So James Cook, you wouldn't necessarily pencil him in as 1114 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: a top option in this super deep Bill's offense with 1115 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs and Gabriel Davis and Dawson Knox in his 1116 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: contract here, but again, being a four four two guy 1117 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 1: that has a legitimate experience averaging almost eleven yards per 1118 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: catch in college, surd number four a running back, the 1119 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: Bills will utilize him in his rookie season. Yeah, and 1120 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: it also goes to because you want to do the 1121 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: unexpected when you're off Sure people know Steph Diggs is 1122 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 1: gonna get targets, Gabe Davis gonna get targets, Dawson Nas 1123 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: gonna get targets. Nobody knows about these young guys. Yeah, 1124 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: what's what? How the Jets gonna use Breece Hall. We 1125 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: don't know. They're gonna hand it to him, Throw it 1126 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: to him. What's he good at? Because once they get 1127 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: into this level, job one in training camp and all 1128 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: these OTAs is for the coaching staff say, Okay, what 1129 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 1: can this kid really do at this level? I saw 1130 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: him in college playing against and I always say this, 1131 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 1: He's playing against dental students in college. Let's see what 1132 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: he can do. Playing against you know, Tremaine Edmonds, Mamlano. Yeah, 1133 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: now what's going to happen? And they don't know until 1134 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: they line up, and then it's the great unknown takes 1135 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 1: place and they start give the guy chances and to 1136 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 1: do things that nobody knew he could do. Yeah, and 1137 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: I think that's really where James Cook can be a weapon, 1138 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: maybe early on, and maybe it's not until November or December. 1139 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 1: Like the Bills aren't necessarily just playing for the regular 1140 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: season at this point. I mean, playoff seating certainly matters. 1141 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 1: To get home games at this stadium would certainly be 1142 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: key for the Bills. But even if a plan for 1143 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: James Cook doesn't materialize until November or December or even January, 1144 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: I think that's huge for this Bill's offense. And like 1145 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: you're mentioning Steve, just for opponents to not be able 1146 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: to game plan for what's going to come out of 1147 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: the backfield when they already have to game plan for 1148 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 1: Steph Diggs, Dawson Knox, and Gabriel Davis on the outside. Now, 1149 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: the argument for Cook is that in the SEC, there's 1150 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 1: not a lot of dentists, right, It's a lot more 1151 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: nay so at least, there's not a lot of dentists 1152 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: in that conference. That's right. What's what's another rookie you 1153 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: know that the Bills? You know? I think Caye William's 1154 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: probably one that jumps out to you. What did you 1155 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: see with him kind of through the draft process and 1156 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: what he How does he fit into the puzzle? That's 1157 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 1: a great question. I think he fits perfectly with what 1158 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: the Bills needed. In watching that Divisional round game against 1159 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, obviously no Trey White, he was down with 1160 00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 1: the torn acl in that game, it kind of felt 1161 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: like the Bills secondary needed more speed and Kayer Eilerman 1162 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 1: four three nine at the combine. He was a big recruit, 1163 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: played at Florida, played against a lot of future NFL players. 1164 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 1: He fits in that he has speed and I think 1165 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: he gives the Bills more coverage versatility that Sean McDermott 1166 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: and Leslie Frasier have been mostly a zone based defense 1167 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: and it's been super successful. They've been in the top 1168 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 1: ten of interceptions and all five seasons with Sean McDermott. 1169 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Kayer Elam was mostly a man corner at Florida, so 1170 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: they can do a lot of creative things zone on 1171 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 1: one side man on the other side. If a team 1172 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 1: has two starwide receivers, and most teams do. Now you 1173 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: can have Trey White matchup with different types of wide receivers. 1174 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 1: And you know that Kayer Elam has the athleticism and 1175 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: the experience to be a really good on an island 1176 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: press man corner that can run down the field with 1177 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: some of the faster receivers in the NFL. You're listening 1178 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live Steve Tasker and Josh Reid in 1179 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: the studio with CBS Sports, NFL and college football analyst 1180 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: Chris trap pas So, and I gotta ask you this, 1181 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: this is go down. Let's give a synopsis about the 1182 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 1: entire draft. You got two the Bills drafted two corners, 1183 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 1: two linebackers, a tackle, a punter, and a wide receiver. 1184 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: They made all their picks. Give us a little synopsis 1185 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: of how much these guys are going to really help 1186 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 1: you think or give us, you know, the highlights and 1187 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 1: the low lights. Well, certainly kyeer Elam, James Cook, who 1188 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: we've talked about already, their first two round picks. I 1189 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be contributors, major contributors in the year one. 1190 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: The one player that I'll highlight, Khalil Shakier is going 1191 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: to enter training camp buried on the depth chart. But 1192 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder, twenty nine years old, He's been one of 1193 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 1: the more reliable slot receivers in the NFL, but he's 1194 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: missed fifteen games over the last four seasons. Now, I 1195 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: do think that the Bill's strength and conditioning program is 1196 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: one of the best in the NFL. They've not really been, 1197 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, hamstrung by a lot of injuries during the 1198 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott era. But if Jamison Crowder goes down and 1199 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: they want to utilize Isaiah McKenzie in that gadget role, 1200 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 1: like they've kind of reserved that for him, Khalil Shakier 1201 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: could be sitting there in October or November as the 1202 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 1: starting slot receiver in a Josh Allen based offense. I 1203 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: think that's again, a very luxurious position to be in 1204 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 1: four years at Boise State, very productive, almost being like 1205 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: a Cole Beasley finding the soft spots in zone and 1206 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 1: then creating after the catch. I think he actually excels 1207 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 1: even more so than Beasley did creating after the catch 1208 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 1: yards after the catch, which was really one area of 1209 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: the Bill's offense that's been lacking over the past couple 1210 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 1: of seasons. Overall, I think they did a good job 1211 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 1: adding you know, special teams talent with Balen Spector in 1212 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 1: round seven. And one other player that I'll mention that 1213 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: probably hasn't been talked about that much, Christian Benford. I 1214 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: watched him late in the process because there was some 1215 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 1: buzz that out of Illanova he could get drafted. Fourteen interceptions, 1216 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: forty five pass breakups in his four seasons. He got 1217 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: drafted as a corner. I think he's going to ultimately 1218 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 1: play safety, and I like for him as a rookie 1219 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: to learn from Jordan Poyer and Mica Hyde as they're 1220 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: getting up there in age, they know this is something 1221 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: like the back of their hand. Christian Benford, with that 1222 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 1: production in college, I think he can eventually be the 1223 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: air apparent to those two safeties here in Buffalo. This 1224 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: roster's so stacked with talent. You know, we talked about 1225 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Khalil's shakier, you know, being buried on a depth chart. 1226 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of position battles going into training camp. 1227 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: We're probably going to talk a lot about punter, believe 1228 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: it or not. Right, Matta Raisa, you know the punt god, right, 1229 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,959 Speaker 1: what should expectations be of him? And is the holding things? 1230 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: There's a big you know, divide on people whether or 1231 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 1: not they think the holding thing is a thing or 1232 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 1: if holding is kind of maybe not even secondary to 1233 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: just being able to have a huge leg. Well, I 1234 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: think certainly having that monster leg is something that put 1235 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 1: him on the draft radar in a big way, and 1236 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised he was still available in 1237 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 1: round six. Steve could probably talk more about the holding scenario. 1238 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 1: I know though during the pre draft process he was 1239 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 1: working with a specialist working on his holds because he 1240 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 1: never really did that. And I do think that a 1241 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,880 Speaker 1: kicker and his holder, they have a really strong relationship. 1242 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: I think Tyler bass a lot of his success early 1243 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: in his career certainly on his own leg and his accuracy, 1244 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 1: but the level of the whole, like the quality of 1245 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: the holds, is very important. So I think for everyone 1246 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 1: else in this Bill's draft class, they're kind of starting 1247 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,280 Speaker 1: as a secondary player. Matta Risa could really be the 1248 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 1: guy that's on the field the most to begin his 1249 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 1: NFL career, and if he can be penning teams back 1250 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: inside the ten and the twenty yard line. The Bills 1251 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 1: are going to be in a lot of advantageous situations 1252 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 1: on defense this season. He's got a couple of things 1253 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 1: working against him and not really working against and that's 1254 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 1: not he may he may punt less than anybody in 1255 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 1: the league. That's a good thing. The second thing is 1256 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 1: this when a guy gets on the radar for the NFL, 1257 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 1: usually because they hit these bombs at but every bomb 1258 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 1: that you don't see, there's there's one that's wabbling off 1259 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 1: on the sidelines, right, there's a bad kick. The thing 1260 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: for the punter of particularly a young punter, is to 1261 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: make sure the floor of his range of punts is high. 1262 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 1: A bad punt, you can live with one, But when 1263 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 1: you have one every week now, and the bad puns 1264 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 1: can't be out of bounds fifteen yard punts, they've got 1265 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: to be thirty five yard punt net, you know that's 1266 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 1: a bad one. The floor of your bad punts has 1267 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: to be really high. They don't have to be all 1268 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: sixty five yard bombs or seventy yard bombs, but you 1269 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 1: can't have a twenty five yard wobbler, you know what 1270 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what you gotta get rid of and 1271 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 1: for the holding thing for the field goal. Now, Tyler 1272 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 1: Bass will agree with me because he's the guy that 1273 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 1: has to kick it, But I'm not listening. If I 1274 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 1: did it, it's not hard. It's there's a lot of 1275 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,240 Speaker 1: pressure on it, but there's not hard. It's not hard, 1276 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 1: particularly if a guy like Matt Ariza says, all I 1277 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 1: gotta do is learn how to hold for that. For 1278 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Tyler Bass, he's the only guy I need to learn 1279 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: how to hold it. How does he like it? Learn 1280 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: how to do that and rep it a thousand times 1281 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 1: in the first week, and a thousand more in the 1282 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 1: second week, and a thousand more in the third week. 1283 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Just it's reps, and it's where you get comfortable with it. 1284 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: If you can handle the pressure being the guy to 1285 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:16,959 Speaker 1: catch it the snap and put it on the ground 1286 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 1: your goal. It's not difficult to do, but it's easy 1287 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 1: to feel the weight of the world on your shoulders 1288 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 1: when everything depends on it. So the snapper wants you 1289 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 1: to make him look good, and the kicker certainly wants 1290 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 1: you to make him look good. And all eighty thousand 1291 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 1: people in the stands don't want to see you sitting 1292 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: back there trying to find a handle on that thing. Right, 1293 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 1: So it's easy to learn to do. It's not a 1294 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 1: difficult job, but it does have a lot of stress, 1295 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's the stress that's 1296 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: the hard part, not the physical thing of grabbing a 1297 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 1: snap and putting it down. Do you think during training 1298 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: camp and in the preseason met Aaac and Tyler Bass 1299 01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 1: can get enough of a connection where week one against 1300 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 1: the Rams, if there's a key kick, that they would 1301 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 1: both feel comfortable, Like how long do you think that? Well, 1302 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: if they're not comfortable, they won't be out there. Yeah, 1303 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 1: they'll both work hard at it. And if they haven't 1304 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,439 Speaker 1: been working hard at it already, that you know they're 1305 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: they're not pros. I mean Tyler Bass has been working 1306 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 1: on it, but he can't do it without a rise 1307 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: and a snapper and that's all three guys. So yeah, 1308 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 1: it takes a lot of rips and it's yeah, but 1309 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 1: they can do that. You can do it, and there's 1310 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: no reason to think that three guys who go out 1311 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 1: there and work hard, and particularly you've got two guys 1312 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 1: that are proven like Red Ferguson and Tyler Bass, Matta 1313 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: Raiza can go in there. You can you can catch 1314 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: a snap and get it down. There's not it's not 1315 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: that hard. It's the mental aspect of knowing there's so 1316 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 1: much rides on you doing that um and you don't 1317 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 1: get rewarded for it because people have been doing it 1318 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 1: for so long. It's like, come, I just you know 1319 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: how hard? And it's not hard, but it's important. We 1320 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 1: are going to be talking about the holds on extra 1321 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: points in the preseason. Oh, yeah, that's what we're gonna 1322 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: be talking about. Yeah. You know what though, that's a 1323 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 1: good thing because you were not talking about quarterback battles. 1324 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 1: We're not talking about right, talking about as the head 1325 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 1: coach on the hot seat. None of that's a thing, right, 1326 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 1: It's it's a can the punter hold on extra points? 1327 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 1: We're talking to christ Rapasso of CBS Sports NFL in 1328 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 1: college football analysts. One of the things you guys pumped 1329 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,600 Speaker 1: out with some guys in entering maker break seasons and 1330 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 1: one of the you know, the guys on as a 1331 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: guy we've been talking about and Tremaine Edmunds, you're and 1332 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 1: this is an important year for him. I don't think 1333 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 1: he's in question yeah, definitely. I mean, going into that 1334 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: final year of his rookie deal, it's huge and if 1335 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 1: he plays out of his mind, he could be the 1336 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 1: highest paid off ball linebacker at the end of the season. 1337 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: If he regresses, he might not be on the Bills 1338 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 1: next season. For me, I don't actually view it though, 1339 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,600 Speaker 1: as that much of a make or break because I 1340 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: think even though he's still young, he's like twenty four 1341 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 1: years old and he's played for four seasons already. I 1342 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 1: think we know what we're gonna get with Tremaine Edmunds. 1343 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: And I mentioned it earlier that he's you know, he's 1344 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 1: going to be around the football a lot at times. 1345 01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 1: He's not going to play as fast in terms of 1346 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 1: assessing as Matt Milano. He's going to clog the middle 1347 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,719 Speaker 1: of the defense in coverage, make a few splash plays, 1348 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 1: maybe miss a few more tackles in the Bills would like. 1349 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,680 Speaker 1: So I kind of think that the Bills know what 1350 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,879 Speaker 1: they have with him. They love how he compliments Matt Milano, 1351 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,559 Speaker 1: and again with Michael Hi Jordan Poyer, it's the same deal. 1352 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 1: No one probably knows this defense better than Tremaine Edmunds. 1353 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 1: So it technically from a financial perspective is a maker 1354 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 1: break season. I don't think we're gonna be talking about 1355 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 1: him as a Defensive Player of the Year candidate, and 1356 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't think in November people are gonna want Tremade 1357 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Edmunds off the team. He's a valuable asset to for 1358 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 1: as much as the offense has gone on a huge 1359 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: skyrocket during the Josh Allen are the defense has been 1360 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,799 Speaker 1: very consistent since Sean mcdermot's been here, it's been rock solid, 1361 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,799 Speaker 1: and Tremaine Edmonds is at the focal point of the second, 1362 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 1: you know, back seven of that defense. I think one 1363 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,639 Speaker 1: of the things that you just brought up that's key 1364 01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 1: is splash plays. Leslie Frasier actually brought that up about 1365 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds. He said, I need to see more of 1366 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,680 Speaker 1: those splash plays from him. Wrote real quickly, what do 1367 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,719 Speaker 1: you think about ed Oliver. He's a guy that's getting 1368 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 1: close to contract time, and defensive tackle is a valuable spot. 1369 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,759 Speaker 1: I think if there's a player that I would predict 1370 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 1: on the Bills defense to take that next step into Superstartdom, 1371 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,040 Speaker 1: it's at Oliver think to sign to Kwan Jones and 1372 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: Tim Settle, two big wide body nose tackles that can 1373 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 1: get up the field a little bit, but are going 1374 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,800 Speaker 1: to eat a lot of blockers that will truly let 1375 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 1: at Oliver play and that up the field role. I 1376 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 1: think that's just personnel wise and teammate wise, will allow 1377 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 1: him to generate a lot of pressures, get more sex 1378 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 1: and he's ever gotten before. And I like that at Oliver, 1379 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 1: who came into the league pretty young and played nose 1380 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,719 Speaker 1: tackle at Houston, he was out of position. We've seen 1381 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 1: him incrementally get better during his career in Buffalo. I 1382 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,760 Speaker 1: think he's worked a little bit harder. Sean McDermott kind 1383 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 1: of mentioned early in his career maybe he's not working 1384 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: on his craft enough, and he saw by year two 1385 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 1: and then last season him take that next step. In 1386 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 1: this defense that's so rotational upfront, to have those guys 1387 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 1: next to him, he's going to take off. And we've 1388 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,960 Speaker 1: been talking about Tremaine Edmonds at Oliver. Let me ask 1389 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 1: you this now, when you get to the end of 1390 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: the year and they both have good years or maybe 1391 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds has any he's been in a Pro Bowl. 1392 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, people teams hate playing against the guy at Oliver. 1393 01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 1: Same thing so he has a little step uptick. Here's 1394 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,120 Speaker 1: a question. You start talking about finances, what kind of 1395 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 1: contracts are they going to pay these guys? How much 1396 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,599 Speaker 1: are they those contracts gonna hamstring the team going forward? Now, 1397 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,640 Speaker 1: the big question is this, how easy is it to 1398 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 1: replace Ed Oliver or Tremaine Edmonds? How easy is it 1399 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 1: to find a guy that maybe doesn't give you one 1400 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 1: hundred percent but gives you ninety percent of the production 1401 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,839 Speaker 1: for ten percent of the money. Those kind of questions 1402 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 1: have to be answered. How tough is it to play 1403 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 1: in the middle of this defense? How much will you 1404 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: have to change if it's not Tremaine Edmonds in the 1405 01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,760 Speaker 1: middle of your defense or Ed Oliver you know, on 1406 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,759 Speaker 1: the offside, on the week side of the offensive formation. 1407 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and that goes for every team, not every 1408 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,200 Speaker 1: player on every team. What's the cost of their replacement 1409 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 1: and how much replacement production can you get for way 1410 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 1: way less money. Yeah, that's a great question. I think 1411 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 1: if we're stacking Tremaine Edmunds versus at Oliver, Like I said, 1412 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm more optimistic about at Oliver. But I think in 1413 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,639 Speaker 1: this Bill's defense, and I mentioned it earlier with how 1414 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 1: rotational they are up front, they're going nine ten deep. 1415 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 1: Sean McDermot did it in Carolina, He's done it in 1416 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,759 Speaker 1: his first five seasons in Buffalo. I think the Bills 1417 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 1: would be a little bit more apt to say, hey, 1418 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 1: you know what, if they're equal and they're going to 1419 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,840 Speaker 1: be paid around the same, let's actually let at Oliver go. 1420 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,639 Speaker 1: Because that middle linebacker has so many responsibilities stopping the run, 1421 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 1: whether it be inside, the tackles, outside, and in coverage. 1422 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,760 Speaker 1: I think that's more of a valuable asset in Sean 1423 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 1: mcdermot's defense than a defensive tackle that's maybe only playing 1424 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 1: forty to sixty percent of the snaps. You can get that, 1425 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 1: I think the draft more so than a six foot five, 1426 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,680 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pound really fast linebacker. All right, 1427 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,320 Speaker 1: one last question before we let you go. We have 1428 01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,679 Speaker 1: this question, what's the most overlooked player on the Bills roster. 1429 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 1: We kind of answered that with all the guys. Now, 1430 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 1: when you were a kid and you're playing in the yard, 1431 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:16,040 Speaker 1: who did you pretend to be when you were playing football, baseball, basketball, 1432 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 1: Who is the guy that you wanted to be? Like? Well, 1433 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 1: if you say Steve Tash, Karl Choker, I was gonna 1434 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,600 Speaker 1: say special teams, it was de Tasker, No, it was 1435 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 1: for me. It was definitely Andre Reid. Andre meet like 1436 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 1: to me, just running routes like we would play so 1437 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,000 Speaker 1: much backyard football. If I wasn't the all time quarterback 1438 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 1: being Jim Kelly, it was Andre Red because he was 1439 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,759 Speaker 1: just so good over the middle all areas of the field. 1440 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,200 Speaker 1: Good stuff TBS, Sports, NFL and college football. And as 1441 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso growing joins the show, thanks for coming in, 1442 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 1: man really appreciate it anytime. Guys. Thanks Steve Tasker. Josh 1443 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,439 Speaker 1: Reed will be right back. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio 1444 01:13:48,439 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 1: and this is One Bills Live. Welcome back to One 1445 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 1: Bill's Life. Chief Tasker Josh Rei. Thanks to Chris Trapasso 1446 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,320 Speaker 1: for coming in and join us. In the last segment, 1447 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,639 Speaker 1: talking about the Bill's roster training camp upcoming season. You know, guys, 1448 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 1: he's looking for guys are in big years. It's it's 1449 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 1: it's always interesting to get an outside perspective because we're 1450 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we're neck deep. We're up to 1451 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 1: our eyeballs and Bills stuff every day. And most Bills, 1452 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, are the same way. Most Bills fans are 1453 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 1: the same way. They don't really you know, they'll catch 1454 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 1: other stuff, big stories from other teams. But mantle Man, 1455 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,720 Speaker 1: they know this roster and it's fun to get an 1456 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 1: outside set of eyes on it. Yeah, and it's it's 1457 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 1: interesting to hear kind of how some of those guys 1458 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: stack up with other rookies that other teams took. You know, 1459 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 1: that's always interesting because I mean, these guys, like you said, 1460 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:48,120 Speaker 1: we are twenty four seven Bills, whereas they they are 1461 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 1: able to spread some of their attention out there around 1462 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 1: the league and everything. And you know, it's interesting to 1463 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 1: hear him talk about Bruce Hall, guy that the Bills 1464 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 1: will see twice a year. Yeah, let's go on. We're 1465 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 1: gonna take We asked you today who's the most overlooked 1466 01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: player on the Bills roster? And if you ever had 1467 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,599 Speaker 1: a player that you pretended to be growing up, then 1468 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,880 Speaker 1: we'll go to the tweet sheet right now, brought to 1469 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,240 Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company 1470 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,719 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. And the first one's from Jeremy's 1471 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,120 Speaker 1: is right now. He thinks Jamison Crowder, who's a beast 1472 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: for the Jets, but it's overlooked when he because he 1473 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 1: was on a poor team. I think he's gonna bring 1474 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: a ton to the table. Possibility. He's right. Christ Passo 1475 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 1: just said, you know, this is a guy in Jamison Crowder. 1476 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 1: He missed fifteen games over the last four seas. That's 1477 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,560 Speaker 1: like four four a season. Cole Beasley missed about that 1478 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,760 Speaker 1: many last year. Every so off seemed like he missed 1479 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 1: some games. I don't know me. He did play hurt though, 1480 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:50,000 Speaker 1: tough as nails. It'll be interesting to see, well this 1481 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,680 Speaker 1: will buy far be the best quarterback he's played with, 1482 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 1: best team, best team. Al Smith was the best quarterback 1483 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,720 Speaker 1: he's played with. And I mean, let's face it, Josh Allen, right, 1484 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,920 Speaker 1: he can't caddy for John. Jamison Crowder is going to 1485 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,720 Speaker 1: be in a different spot, in a different situation than 1486 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,599 Speaker 1: he's ever been in as a pro. It'll be interesting 1487 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,960 Speaker 1: to see what that means to his career, in his production. Certainly, 1488 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,920 Speaker 1: he's going to feel a difference walking and walking off 1489 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: the field winning more than losing as he did with 1490 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 1: the Jets. And it's easy to overlook him too. I mean, 1491 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,680 Speaker 1: the Bills have just hit home run after home run 1492 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 1: in the off sea. We went over it early in 1493 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,240 Speaker 1: the superlatives of this offseason. You know Von Miller and 1494 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 1: James Cook and Kayer Elam and all the other you 1495 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 1: know Saffold and Kesson Berry and and you sit there 1496 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 1: and look at crowded. Crowder is one of the guys 1497 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,160 Speaker 1: that's like, guys should darn it. He's still on the 1498 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Jets and we gotta play him that. You know. I 1499 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,160 Speaker 1: can't believe he's twenty nine. I feel like he's been 1500 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL for fifteenth season, right, he should be 1501 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 1: like thirty eight. Right. So he played well against the 1502 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 1: Bills a lot, and I think that's one of the 1503 01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 1: reasons the Bill the Bills went after him a second time. 1504 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 1: He was a free age a couple of years ago, 1505 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 1: and he stayed with the Jets. Now he came to 1506 01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 1: the Bills, and the Bills hung in there and stayed 1507 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 1: with it and got him after all. So, yeah, you 1508 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,479 Speaker 1: might have a Jeremy might have a point. When Jamison 1509 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Crowder is the most overlooked from MT on the tweet sheet, 1510 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,320 Speaker 1: he says, OJ Howard will be a nightmare in two 1511 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 1: tight end formations. Yeah. OJ Howard has been when he 1512 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:24,560 Speaker 1: came out. And I don't know if you remember this 1513 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 1: a few years ago. That guy was an unbelievable talent. 1514 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,559 Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. He was like the kid that Atlanta 1515 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 1: pits pits. Yeah, he's a lot like him, except bigger. Yeah. 1516 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,599 Speaker 1: Oj Howard. I mean you'll see if everybody, and I've 1517 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,800 Speaker 1: said it before, come out to training camp and get 1518 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,120 Speaker 1: a load of what Oj Howard looks like walking around, 1519 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:52,120 Speaker 1: it's impressive. The guy is a giant. I mean he's huge. 1520 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean he makes Dawson Knox look like his little brother. 1521 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,519 Speaker 1: And Dawson Knox is big. I mean, he's just a big, 1522 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 1: fast guy with a lot of athletic ability. He has 1523 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,479 Speaker 1: had struggled, to say it, staying healthy, and I think 1524 01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,559 Speaker 1: that's a large reason why he got kind of pushed 1525 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 1: to the side when Gronkowski came into Tampa. They had 1526 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 1: Cameron Braden. They couldn't you know, he couldn't break into that, 1527 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,760 Speaker 1: and he couldn't stay healthy enough to be consistent. So 1528 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 1: he had some stuff going against him. But if he 1529 01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,439 Speaker 1: comes to the table with all of his potential, yeah, 1530 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,479 Speaker 1: he's a big plus it. Once again, you know, Brandon 1531 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,200 Speaker 1: Bean did a great job of just surrounding Josh with 1532 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,320 Speaker 1: guys who can make plays and look o. J. Howard 1533 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 1: may be in a situation where he may go three 1534 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 1: weeks and have three catches for thirty yards, and then 1535 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 1: he may have a game where the mismatches there and 1536 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,640 Speaker 1: he may have eight catches for a buck ten and 1537 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,240 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. I mean, it might be that kind of 1538 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 1: year where Steph Diggs we know pretty much week in 1539 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 1: and week out he's gonna go for the big numbers 1540 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,600 Speaker 1: and then it's just kind of where's the mismatch. And 1541 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 1: I'll say this too, depending on how teams adjust and 1542 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 1: what they do. You got Dawson Knox out there with 1543 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,719 Speaker 1: OJ Howard. They're extremely tall targets in the red zone. 1544 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,600 Speaker 1: And like you always say, you think, now, I'm not 1545 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 1: talking about you know, fade routes ring, but I'm talking 1546 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,680 Speaker 1: about throwing it high over the middle and getting a 1547 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 1: mismatch on a short guy and it's too hard to defend. Yeah, 1548 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 1: if he's lined up in the slot, these the slot cornerbacks, 1549 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna tower over them, right. Another one from the 1550 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,680 Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Nick he thinks Devin Singletary is the 1551 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 1: most overlooked player. I don't know if I buy that. 1552 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 1: And for whatever he gives. No, he has no justification 1553 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 1: for it. He just thinks Devin Singletary from Mike, He says, 1554 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, and I think having him back this year 1555 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 1: is just as big as the von Miller's signing. No, 1556 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 1: I kind of I'm not gonna go that far, but 1557 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 1: I get where you're I get where your point is 1558 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 1: being made. Jordan Phillips when he was here two years ago, 1559 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: when he or three years ago, when he was highly 1560 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,640 Speaker 1: motivated as he probably will be this year, he was 1561 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,880 Speaker 1: a force, a real force. Miami kicked him to the curb. 1562 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,120 Speaker 1: He was unhappy. He came to Buffalo on a one 1563 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,720 Speaker 1: year deal to prove it, and man, oh man, did 1564 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 1: he ever? He had a huge season. Yes, I mean 1565 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,720 Speaker 1: he was chasing quarterbacks all season and he is. He 1566 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 1: is big, He's like three thirty plus, and he moves. 1567 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 1: He's got like a waste, you know. Yeah, he's he's Yeah, 1568 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:18,880 Speaker 1: he's to your point, He's very athletic. He's probably underrated 1569 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 1: how athletic he is. Hard to single team him up inside, 1570 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,000 Speaker 1: so you gotta have a center in a guard on him, 1571 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: which means ed Oliver's by himself or on the other side. 1572 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,080 Speaker 1: Daquan Jones is by himself and he put both those 1573 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,040 Speaker 1: guys in there. In a passing down, you got a 1574 01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 1: lot of weight to try and stop um, and it's slippery, 1575 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,360 Speaker 1: so it's pretty tough. It's it's a really good signing. 1576 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 1: I think Jordan Phillips is a is a huge plus 1577 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,960 Speaker 1: for this team. He's a off the field, he's pretty quiet, 1578 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,200 Speaker 1: pretty regular going guy. When he's on the field, he's 1579 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,719 Speaker 1: high energy and he loved and coaches love that stuff. 1580 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 1: And I think he's a piece to the Bill's defensive line. 1581 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,640 Speaker 1: Von Miller is the piece, right, you know what I mean? 1582 01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:00,760 Speaker 1: That's that's the centerpiece exactly right from Jim, He says, 1583 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,880 Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie. Every chance he catches the every chance he 1584 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 1: catches the ball, big third down catches, runs, returns. He's 1585 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 1: been the best slot guy for a season and a 1586 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 1: half and we always look to replace him. Now it's 1587 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 1: Crowder free Isaiah. He'll make you proud. Jim is this 1588 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:27,200 Speaker 1: Isaiah's agent? Hey, Look, was there a bigger did that 1589 01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,000 Speaker 1: just happen game? Than when Isaiah went into New England 1590 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:35,840 Speaker 1: and just went off? No. I mean when you look 1591 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,519 Speaker 1: at individual performances like That was one of those ones 1592 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,600 Speaker 1: that just came out of nowhere, and you looked at 1593 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the stat sheet at the end of the game and 1594 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:49,400 Speaker 1: in the clutch timing of those catches, I was like, 1595 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,639 Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. I didn't know he had him. 1596 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,439 Speaker 1: The Patriots didn't believe the Bills would keep going to him, 1597 01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 1: and they just kept the same guy on him and 1598 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,519 Speaker 1: the same thing. They didn't believe Josh would keep throwing 1599 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,639 Speaker 1: him the ball. Twelve targets for Isaiah McKenzie who hasn't 1600 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:04,840 Speaker 1: even been on the field for the last month and 1601 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, no, they didn't believe it. And now 1602 01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:11,639 Speaker 1: you know, twelve targets and eleven catches late, eleven catches 1603 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 1: on twelve targets. He killed them. And and we've talked 1604 01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,120 Speaker 1: about this before. At the end of twenty twenty, when 1605 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:20,800 Speaker 1: the Bills had it all wrapped up, they put him 1606 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 1: in against Miami. He did the same thing to Miami. 1607 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,080 Speaker 1: He was he was the offense in the first half 1608 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,320 Speaker 1: of Miami and then Matt Barkley came into the second 1609 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 1: half of that game and still lit him up. Matt 1610 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 1: Barkley beat the Miami Dolphins with Isaiah McKenzie. So he 1611 01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,880 Speaker 1: has been nothing but productive when he's gotten the chance. 1612 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,720 Speaker 1: But like a lot of for some reason, and I 1613 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 1: don't know whether it's an on the field or off 1614 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,680 Speaker 1: the fielding. Everybody likes him, they all, they all like him, 1615 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:53,080 Speaker 1: but that guy is not their go to. He is 1616 01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 1: not their go to. And I think I don't know 1617 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,320 Speaker 1: whether it's Sean McDermott or Brandon Bean or maybe it's 1618 01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allten or somebody else. I don't know, but that 1619 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,519 Speaker 1: guy does not get the opportunities you would think he 1620 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,920 Speaker 1: would get with the production he puts out when he 1621 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: does get an opportunity. And maybe maybe we'll see it 1622 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:13,759 Speaker 1: this year. Maybe this is it. The offensive coordinator, maybe 1623 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,639 Speaker 1: maybe Ken Dorsey says, you know what, let's run it back. 1624 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 1: Let's let's see what this guy. Let's get hit the 1625 01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,439 Speaker 1: ball in his hands nine times a game and see 1626 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,080 Speaker 1: what he can do, whether it's in a bunch of 1627 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,680 Speaker 1: jet sweeps, that kind of action. You know, maybe you're 1628 01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,679 Speaker 1: dumping it to him, you know, in the slot. But yeah, 1629 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,439 Speaker 1: I mean you're right. When he touches it, he's pretty electric. 1630 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 1: He's fast, catches the ball well, he can go in 1631 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 1: the return game, yes, he's very versatile and he gives 1632 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,080 Speaker 1: you something on special teams that makes his roster spot productive, 1633 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 1: even if he's not the number one guy on the offense. 1634 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,840 Speaker 1: And you know that kid Bryant from New England tried 1635 01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,000 Speaker 1: to stay with him all day and he wore him out. 1636 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 1: He absolutely or the guy out. And he's a story. 1637 01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:07,479 Speaker 1: He's an interesting story of a player who remember he 1638 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,840 Speaker 1: was inactive in that New Orleans game and he could 1639 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,360 Speaker 1: have gone He could have gone sideways. It could have 1640 01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 1: gone really sideways, and somehow he sidestepped getting too deep 1641 01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 1: in the doghouse right, and he was and then he 1642 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: was active and he put up some he put up 1643 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,360 Speaker 1: some good that. I'll say this, when guys get benched 1644 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:30,840 Speaker 1: and they go in and they go south and they 1645 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:32,880 Speaker 1: and they you can't they don't hear from the rest 1646 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,519 Speaker 1: of the season. They just like, forget it. I'm out. 1647 01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:39,040 Speaker 1: That's on the coach. Now. He may have he may 1648 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,040 Speaker 1: have sat him down for good reason, and everybody knows 1649 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,680 Speaker 1: whatever the guy did. Plus you're gonna get benched for 1650 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,559 Speaker 1: that for a minute. But if the head coach doesn't 1651 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 1: handle it the right way, like sit down, look the 1652 01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 1: look the guy in the eye and say, hey, listen, 1653 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,680 Speaker 1: here's what's gonna happen, and here's why. Now I know 1654 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,960 Speaker 1: you're not happy about it, I know whatever. A head 1655 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,080 Speaker 1: coach can diffuse all that and give the guy a 1656 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 1: ray of hope, give the guy a reason to come 1657 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 1: back strong. And that's what Sean McDermott is so good at. 1658 01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 1: Certainly he's he's benched a ton of guys who most 1659 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 1: of us out here like going, what do you do 1660 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,439 Speaker 1: that for? Why isn't boogie bash him? Start? Why isn't 1661 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 1: a j Epanessa as a first round pick on the 1662 01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,519 Speaker 1: field as rookie's in an opening day? You know, he's 1663 01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,800 Speaker 1: done that to a ton of guys. And the reason 1664 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,000 Speaker 1: he's such a good head coach is because none of 1665 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 1: those guys go in the tank after he does it. Yeah, 1666 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,920 Speaker 1: he becomes the button, right, he pushed it. He communicates 1667 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 1: the truth to them, and guys respond to that. Guys 1668 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,240 Speaker 1: respond to that, And I think that that's as much 1669 01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott keeping Isaiah McKenzie motivated and engaged and saying 1670 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna show you rather than going in 1671 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 1: the tank, says you're never gonna get me I'm gonna 1672 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,360 Speaker 1: go on and go do something else, and they never 1673 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,760 Speaker 1: turned into Antonio Brown, you know what I'm saying. So 1674 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,400 Speaker 1: that's on Sean McDermott. This is a good one, Jim. 1675 01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,439 Speaker 1: When I first read the name isam McKenzie, I wanted 1676 01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,680 Speaker 1: to go yeah that. Actually, after talking it out, I 1677 01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,320 Speaker 1: can see mackenzie being one of these overlooked guys. There's 1678 01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,840 Speaker 1: another one here from Josh. He says, you already show. 1679 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 1: It's Dion doc and selected the Pro Bowl last season, 1680 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 1: quietly goes about his business. Guys in the trenches, especially 1681 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 1: on the old line, always seem to get overlooked. No 1682 01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,000 Speaker 1: one should overlook the wonderful impact he's had on the 1683 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo community as well. Go Bills. Yeah, there's a ton 1684 01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:24,280 Speaker 1: of guys. And last one this says from now, I'm 1685 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 1: not gonna read that one forget. That's about somebody else. 1686 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,240 Speaker 1: So Deon docins. Yeah, any you can name any offensive 1687 01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 1: lineman and they're gonna get overlooked. It's just the nature 1688 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,519 Speaker 1: of the beast. YEA. To me, it's a little different 1689 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,920 Speaker 1: topic if you're talking about if one of these guys 1690 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,600 Speaker 1: goes down with an injury, because that would be a 1691 01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,320 Speaker 1: huge impact. You lose Dion. Look, not that you want 1692 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,519 Speaker 1: to lose Isaiah or any of these guys, but you 1693 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,519 Speaker 1: can you can make it work with some of the 1694 01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,799 Speaker 1: guys we mentioned. That's a foundational piece. But that left tackle, 1695 01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:57,400 Speaker 1: you're you're protecting seventeen's blindside. That's a whole other level 1696 01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,599 Speaker 1: of being important that Steve Tasker, Josh, we're gonna take 1697 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,160 Speaker 1: a break. We'll be back to wrap things up right 1698 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,560 Speaker 1: after this. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio and this is 1699 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:20,320 Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Welcome back to One Bill's Life. Steeve Tasker, 1700 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,439 Speaker 1: Josh Reid here to finish things up for today. You know, 1701 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,639 Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso, great guest on the show, did a lot 1702 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,240 Speaker 1: of had a lot to say, and all of your 1703 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 1: tweets and feedback from our question about who the most 1704 01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,639 Speaker 1: overlooked player was, there's a lot there's so much going 1705 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,320 Speaker 1: on with the Bills this offseason, you kind of forget 1706 01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 1: about the guys who have contributed so much. And we 1707 01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,160 Speaker 1: were both talking about Terren Johnson being a guy that 1708 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,880 Speaker 1: nobody even gives a second thought to what happens if 1709 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,559 Speaker 1: that guy goes down. Oh, that defense looks way different 1710 01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 1: and it's what he does in his role in that defense, 1711 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 1: playing in the slot, he is so crucial. I mean 1712 01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 1: we just sat here and talked about James Cook and 1713 01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,320 Speaker 1: the Bill maybe some thoughts of him playing in the 1714 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,679 Speaker 1: slot and how big of a role that could be. Well, 1715 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,160 Speaker 1: guess what if you're the Bills and you're facing that, 1716 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 1: That's where a guy like tarn Johnson comes in. I mean, 1717 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 1: you need that guy who can I mean, he can 1718 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,519 Speaker 1: match up against wide receivers, he can match up against 1719 01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,719 Speaker 1: running backs. And I'll tell you what, pound for pound, 1720 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,400 Speaker 1: he's the toughest guy on the team. Yeah, he is. 1721 01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,360 Speaker 1: He is not afraid. He will stick his nose in 1722 01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,799 Speaker 1: and he will bring the thunder. He's a willing tackler. 1723 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,479 Speaker 1: He gets in a physical game and he makes a 1724 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,640 Speaker 1: big difference out there. And I think his presence. I mean, 1725 01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,000 Speaker 1: you talk about the value they've gotten out of him 1726 01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,799 Speaker 1: for what they invested in him. They gave him an extension. 1727 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he earned it. It's just great to see 1728 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,120 Speaker 1: that happen. It's great to see what happened. Thanks for 1729 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:43,759 Speaker 1: coming in today. You're gonna be back with us tomorrow. 1730 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,280 Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow, Steve. We'll be back tomorrow, Steve Tasker, 1731 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,080 Speaker 1: Josh Reid back in tomorrow. Chris Brown's gonna be on 1732 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 1: vacation all week. We're gonna take It's gonna be a 1733 01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,920 Speaker 1: herky jerky week as the week stretches on as well. 1734 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:56,599 Speaker 1: But we've got a lot of a lot of shows. 1735 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna have another Twitter question for you tomorrow. Give 1736 01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,639 Speaker 1: us a call tomorrow if you want enjoy the summer. 1737 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,439 Speaker 1: We're getting to it. We're just drumming our just tapping 1738 01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,519 Speaker 1: our feet, waiting for training camp to start. But it's 1739 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,160 Speaker 1: been fun. Thanks Josh, thank you, Steve. Appreciate it all right, 1740 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,599 Speaker 1: So we're gonna be back with you tomorrow and One 1741 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,280 Speaker 1: Bills Live. We're gonna have we had christ Postco. You 1742 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,560 Speaker 1: can go back, get back and listen to that on 1743 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,320 Speaker 1: your iPod or your podcast as well. We'll talk to 1744 01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:20,120 Speaker 1: you tomorrow, everybody,