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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'mheart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Sean low hopes his and Catherine Judici's kids get married young,

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Speaker 2: build your life after that. So former Bachelor Sean Lowe

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Speaker 2: has dreams that his three children will each meet the one.

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Speaker 2: My hope is that they'll find some high school sweetheart.

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Speaker 2: Actually want them to get married young, Lo said on

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Speaker 2: Mattie Pruitt Stay True podcast. I think society today says

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Speaker 2: you got to establish a career and make sure everything's

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Speaker 2: settled and then get married. He goes or she said

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Speaker 2: I got married at thirty and said I got married

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Speaker 2: at thirty and Catherine was twenty eight. I'd rather see

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Speaker 2: them get married young, and that's the foundation of things

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Speaker 2: to come. Like get married and of course spiritually maturity

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Speaker 2: is a big part of that. Get married to someone

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Speaker 2: who loves the Lord as much as you do, and

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Speaker 2: then build your life after that.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of my hope.

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Speaker 2: If you had an ideal age for the kids to

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Speaker 2: get married, what age would that be?

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Speaker 3: I would see twenty in.

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Speaker 1: Ova twenty eight, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Think because then you'll.

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Speaker 4: Certainly no sooner than I think maybe thirty twenty eight

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Speaker 4: to thirty.

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Speaker 1: What is your reasoning, because I.

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Speaker 4: Think there's a lot of lessons and life experience between

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Speaker 4: the age of eighteen and twenty eight to thirty that

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Speaker 4: I think ultimately you probably I'm not saying you have

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Speaker 4: to learn them, but I think it's probably more beneficial

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Speaker 4: to go through that and then choose your life partner.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying you can't be with someone throughout that period,

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Speaker 4: but get married. Yeah, I think twenty eight to thirty.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any right or wrong. But I

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Speaker 4: think if it was Troy or any of the kids

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Speaker 4: that are grown up here, the young ones, I'd be

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Speaker 4: like twenty eight and over, like, live your life a

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Speaker 4: little bit, learn the lessons of life and experience, and

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Speaker 4: then make that commitment to the marriage.

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Speaker 2: No, I actually like I've always agreed and thought on

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Speaker 2: that like twenty eight and over. But there's also a

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Speaker 2: piece of me actually I would say thirty and over.

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Speaker 2: But there's a piece of me that I actually kind

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Speaker 2: of like what he said about having that foundation and

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Speaker 2: then getting because then you have someone that has just

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Speaker 2: been there for you from the very beginning, and that

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Speaker 2: that grit and that support, and I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: think there's something really beautiful about that piece too, and

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Speaker 2: then staying together that long through through different careers and

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Speaker 2: evolving as a person, because I think obviously you change,

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Speaker 2: right like I think my version of And that's where

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Speaker 2: this is where like the Devil's Advocate part plays in,

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Speaker 2: because you know, the people that I dated in my twenties,

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Speaker 2: like Lord, I, I think I would have wanted something

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Speaker 2: different then in a partner, and I knew what I

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Speaker 2: wanted in a partner at forty. But I also think,

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes I think you miss the beauty of

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Speaker 2: that long marriage because you want because you think you

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Speaker 2: have to have all of it figured out or yourself

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Speaker 2: figured out, and it's like, I'm still figuring myself out.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a problem. I think.

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Speaker 4: It's a catch twenty two because it's the fairy tale,

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Speaker 4: isn't it that you your life grows with a relationship

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Speaker 4: with someone else throughout the phases and the decades, and

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Speaker 4: ultimately you've not lived through your twenties. But there's also

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Speaker 4: the fact that because you've not been that single person

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Speaker 4: in your twenties, you're not experienced, you don't know, you

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Speaker 4: don't resonate with the party, and in the single life,

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Speaker 4: and this, and that you've never had it really me, No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I mean in general, okay, like if you're in a

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Speaker 4: relate then then you don't have that phase of your twenties,

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Speaker 4: so therefore you don't miss it.

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Speaker 3: There's a different there's a different side to it. By would.

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Speaker 4: So I go out, there's a lot, there's a lot

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Speaker 4: to learn and a lot of mistakes to be made,

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Speaker 4: and I think my opinion is that that people should

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Speaker 4: should live life a bit and make those mistakes and

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Speaker 4: have those learnings before they go and commit to someone

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Speaker 4: for the rest of their life. I'm not saying the

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Speaker 4: fairy tale is not there and that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, it still happen even later on that too.

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Speaker 4: I think it's I think those type like one of

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Speaker 4: my one of my best mates, Craig and Lynn have

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Speaker 4: been together sincew are like fifteen and that's them still together.

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Speaker 4: Kids like fairy tale and that's that's all they know

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Speaker 4: and it's incredible.

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Speaker 3: But I just think it's just probably unrealistic in this

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Speaker 4: Now, But I would, Yeah, I would rather the kids

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Speaker 4: go and experience life and before they all they tiring

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Speaker 2: I think if you find someone that is truly I

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Speaker 2: just never had anyone that I like. Yes I got

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Speaker 2: married in my twenties, but it wasn't to the right people.

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Speaker 2: But I think if you found the I would. Again,

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Speaker 2: it's hard because it's like some people marry their high

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Speaker 2: school sweetheart and they have a beautiful life together and

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Speaker 2: they're still together and that's so precious, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I I love that piece of it. But I I would.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I would encourage obviously later in life.

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Speaker 2: But again that was my that was my journey, and

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Speaker 2: I know my kids are going to have different journeys.

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Speaker 4: In our kids, like one of them might be a

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Speaker 4: point where one of them might go and marry young

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Speaker 4: and that same for the rest of the life that

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Speaker 4: the one might bounce between this and it's.

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Speaker 2: Just but waiting to accomplish something before settling down. It's

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Speaker 2: like I'm still trying to accomplish things. Imagine if like,

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Speaker 2: don't that's the thing. I'm like, don't don't wait to

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Speaker 2: accomplish things to fall in love. Like there's never a

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Speaker 2: good time for kids. There's never a good time to

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Speaker 2: you know, uproot things and fight go for your dreams,

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Speaker 2: but like, don't life is so short too? Do that

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Speaker 2: love deep dream you know, like like the sign it

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Speaker 2: any of those stores, dream big, love life, paith over fear,

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Speaker 2: you know. Caitlin Bristow is happier than ever, not detailing

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Speaker 2: her dating life. Privacy is so hot. A decade after

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Speaker 2: handing out roses as a bachelorette, Kaitlyn Bristow is keeping

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Speaker 2: her current relationship offline. Privacy is so hot, Like I

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Speaker 2: am turned on by being private. There's something really special

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Speaker 2: and sacred about it. She was talking to us Weekly.

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Speaker 2: She was engaged from off the show, and then she

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Speaker 2: was with Jason Tartik. They got engaged in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: confirmed their split a couple of years later. She said, Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I've had two very publical writs public relationships, and I'm

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Speaker 2: an over share and an open book, and it's very

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Speaker 2: hard to not share certain things in my life. But

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Speaker 2: it feels so right relationships from Bachelor franchise or people online,

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Speaker 2: like it starts to feel a bit performative at times,

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Speaker 2: and I feel like that was where it was going

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Speaker 2: for me last time, and it did not feel good.

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Speaker 2: I can one hundred percent see why she wanted to

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Speaker 2: be private because I really believe that I don't want

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Speaker 2: to like, how do I say this?

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: He wanted you know, he's got he started his podcast,

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Speaker 2: which aad great like do the things that he wants

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Speaker 2: to do too. But when two people are fighting for

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Speaker 2: the not fighting for the spotlight, but having that online persona,

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Speaker 2: it can be difficult maybe for one of the people

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Speaker 2: in the relationship. So I could understand why she would

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Speaker 2: want the nexturallyationship or the relationship that she's in right

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Speaker 2: now to be to be private. I mean, we kept

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Speaker 2: our relationships, I mean somewhat private for a minute. But

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Speaker 2: you're definitely more of a private person I am. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're not posting stories all the time about our life

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Speaker 2: and at times, you know, and I wouldn't I wouldn't care,

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Speaker 2: you know, But that's it's also like not who you are,

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Speaker 2: which is why I've probably posted less because trying I'm

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Speaker 2: to you know, make a living off of social media.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's I think privacy is as powerful

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Speaker 4: bost and foremost because then you can you're in control

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Speaker 4: of what you share, rather than if you're in the spotlight.

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Speaker 4: Then you don't have as much control over what you

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Speaker 4: can what you can and can't share. There's also the

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Speaker 4: fact that is what you used to I'm going to

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Speaker 4: imagine Caitlin and the other guys used to sharing the

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Speaker 4: is it more difficult to go from being someone who

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Speaker 4: has constantly shared the life and becoming private? Is it

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Speaker 4: more difficult to be a private person and then share

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Speaker 4: parts of the life. I can vouch for the like

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Speaker 4: being the more private person and then being in a

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Speaker 4: scenario where I share more of my life now. But

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Speaker 4: I still think I've got control over it. I think

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Speaker 4: that's the main thing. It's difficult, But can you still

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Speaker 4: maintain a certain amount of control over what you share

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Speaker 4: and what gets out there so that the privacy somewhat

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Speaker 2: I think for me, I was so excited to share,

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Speaker 2: Like there was definitely some people that I didn't obviously

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Speaker 2: share because I didn't you know, I wasn't one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent certain about the relationship and no, no, like people

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Speaker 2: Like you can't just be posting your dates with people.

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Speaker 2: You have to be obviously private about things, right, and

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Speaker 2: and so it's I love showing that piece of it

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Speaker 2: because I had shared so much sadness and marriage falling apart,

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Speaker 2: like sharing. When I say about the social media thing,

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Speaker 2: it's because I can't just always be posting ads and

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Speaker 2: Amazon stuff. It's like, I like sharing my life. I

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Speaker 2: think I've gotten a little bit more private. But I also,

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Speaker 2: you know, I want to show people that you know,

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Speaker 2: you can you can go for devastation to happiness and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you can still inspire people, and which

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Speaker 4: you the look at the amount of messages that you

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Speaker 4: get from people saying how inspiring you are in the

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Speaker 4: life that you've built, and so I think it's I

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Speaker 4: think that's importance to it. But again I think as

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Speaker 4: long as you can stay in control of and maintain

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Speaker 4: some privacy, then you remain powerful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of times too with the

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Speaker 2: privacy thing is like I was more private because I

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Speaker 2: didn't want to be embarrassed again or have the comments.

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Speaker 2: And so I think that's why I like being private

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Speaker 2: on certain things and then other things, or why maybe

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Speaker 2: I don't didn't share certain things because I didn't want

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Speaker 2: I didn't want the comments of things. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I can understand maybe her waiting to until she's one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent certain because if not, imagine, I mean, I like,

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Speaker 2: this is really kind of embarrassing to admit. But like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I had posted about someone after getting divorced,

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Speaker 2: and then I had found something out and I would

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Speaker 2: have if I would have not posted, I would have

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Speaker 2: broken up with them. But because I'm like, I can't,

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Speaker 2: I just posted about them on Instagram. I like, I can't,

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Speaker 2: How could I I'm gonna be so embarrassed, Like how

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Speaker 2: out for myself.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's messed.

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Speaker 3: Up, it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Next one, Dad confesses this is a funny one dad

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Speaker 4: confesses to fake because.

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Speaker 1: You do it.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm getting, I'm getting God, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Parents in Confession of the Week, the Sleeping Beauty betrayal

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Speaker 4: confession that dad confesses he fakes sleep so their child

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Speaker 4: goes to the mother being in sleep as I want off.

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Speaker 4: Maybe harmless and something we all probably do in our

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Speaker 4: moments of desperation, but if you're habitually relying on deception

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Speaker 4: to get your partners to do more of the childcare,

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Speaker 4: as a deeper problem, Essentially, this guy is baking sleep

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Speaker 4: so that the baby goes to the mother or the

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Speaker 4: baby is making noise. That's just called laziness, pure an

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Speaker 4: utter laziness and selfishness.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever pretended to fake sleep?

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Speaker 3: Not once? No, not once?

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Speaker 2: And I know that because you ninety nine point nine

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Speaker 2: percent of the time when Romin was a baby was

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Speaker 2: the one that was getting up.

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Speaker 1: If anything, I probably.

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Speaker 3: Think from a sea sex, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I know, but like month two he's like, stay in bed,

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Speaker 2: I've got him, and he's like you're recovering, and I'm like, Alan,

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Speaker 2: it's been two months since the sea section.

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Speaker 4: But also like where's I think there needs to be

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Speaker 4: and it mentions it You're like, so when you fake sleep,

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Speaker 4: the kid goes to the mother, then the mother suffers

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Speaker 4: some deep sleep deprivation and becomes.

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Speaker 1: All the time on the day.

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Speaker 2: So defin back files, this is an interesting question though.

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Speaker 2: What if one of the older kids wakes up, Alan,

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Speaker 2: will you handle them in the middle of the night

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Speaker 2: or do they want Jana, They want you, I know,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's one of those things too where

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Speaker 2: it's I'm like, can you also be the one to

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Speaker 2: get up because it's it? Of course I they're my

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Speaker 2: kids when they're sick, like I will be there for them.

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Speaker 3: I think I've cleaned vomit during.

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Speaker 2: The night, and that's because I've been like, can you

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Speaker 2: I'll make laid up the vomit, Like why is this

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Speaker 2: just on me? But I mean you've obviously there is

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Speaker 2: a different amount of because there are technically my kids.

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Speaker 2: I mean there are you know, your step kids, but

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Speaker 2: there is there is that. I don't think there's a

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Speaker 2: good enough balance there where as opposed to if it

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Speaker 4: I think it's yeah, I think it's not great. Yea,

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Speaker 4: but I also think that when I go to sleep,

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Speaker 4: my empathy goes to sleep.

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Speaker 1: A lot of things go to sleep.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, and my sleep's disrupted time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, when the when the big kids got up,

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Speaker 4: you tend, they tend to go to you, which wakes

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Speaker 3: She just woke her up. She's up now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it would be nice.

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Speaker 4: Don't don't give me that face like I don't contribute

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Speaker 4: when it comes to that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the only time that you did was because

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Speaker 2: I was like yelling at you because I'm like, can

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Speaker 2: you help me clean up vomit? I cannot do vomit.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say that I don't. I cannot do it.

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Speaker 2: If they are coming.

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Speaker 1: Down saying they just threw up yelled at me.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't yell at you, but I'm

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Speaker 2: just like, it wasn't just me, no, no, no, because

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Speaker 2: I was like, are you gonna help me? And you

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Speaker 2: said no, and I was like, why is this just

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't go well, I'm not saying my response was

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Speaker 4: at that point.

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Speaker 2: And I think the last time they threw up, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't think it's I think it's ever

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Speaker 4: been a point where I've pretended to sleep. No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: think I've ever pretend to sleep for any situation.

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Speaker 3: You pretend to stay asleep?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Probably really? Yeah, I need my sleep. Yeah, so women

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Speaker 2: need it more than men and putting it on record and.

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Speaker 3: Talking about sleep deppreviation. The snoring is better than it

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Speaker 3: because of those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm very happy about.

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Speaker 3: That last night, though.

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Speaker 1: Ye, I don't think it was high enough. Anyways, no

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Speaker 1: fake sleep was in here.

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Speaker 2: Next week we'll find some more parenting confessions. Done Dune done,

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Speaker 2: thanks for always changing his pooy dipper in the morning.

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Speaker 2: You're the best love you

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