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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, flowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, presented

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Speaker 1: by Wingstop. Where flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show's home day. Thank your way, stop

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Speaker 1: your flavor of the Dallas Cowboys. Where flavor gets it

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Speaker 1: it's wings. I had a big old fat meal from

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Speaker 1: weak Stop last night. I got that family combo, split

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Speaker 1: it with the wife, ate most of it by myself.

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Speaker 1: Got some in the fridge I'm gonna have for lunch

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Speaker 1: after the show. Thank yess WBC for sponsoring the living

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Speaker 1: room and welcome to the show. Nick new Jesse Holly,

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Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels, Chris Beam on the on the ones and two.

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Speaker 1: How are we feeling today? Fellas? We got two days?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Hey, how about if I put this Michael,

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Speaker 1: thanks for reminding me that, Chris um so now no, Shannon,

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Speaker 1: did you eat? Did you eat? The boneless wings? And

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Speaker 1: the woman who wears the pants in the house eat

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Speaker 1: the wings with the bone in up, stop, Jesse. Was

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Speaker 1: it ranch or was it blue cheese? I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: to see who wears the pants in the eyes. The

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Speaker 1: person who eats the chicken with the bone in it's

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Speaker 1: called a chicken wing who that's who wears the pants

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Speaker 1: in the house. So which one did you have? Shannon?

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Speaker 1: We both ate boneless, we both ate, but un right

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Speaker 1: quick before we get started. Was this an eighty eight

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Speaker 1: piece that you were eating? Because the way you explained it,

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Speaker 1: the wife. I hit it all by myself. I had

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Speaker 1: how many pieces was this? What all did you have?

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Speaker 1: Let me see? Let me let me look it up.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up. You guys, you gotta say

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Speaker 1: hi to each other. And number two, I want to

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Speaker 1: say once again, Jesse has brought it the wardrobe again today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jess. Good. Okay, here you special man. Here

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Speaker 1: Kurt got a lee Curtie kicking us to the curve. Man,

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Speaker 1: Well you look better than me, Kurt. So I need

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Speaker 1: to pick up my game. I need to pick up

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Speaker 1: my game, Jesse, I guess to Jordan Jordan. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you know he got eight hundred powers of Jordan's. Come on,

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Speaker 1: I used to more. Did Jordan influence your decision to

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Speaker 1: go to UNC or did you just go there because

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Speaker 1: that's the only offer you got. No, it was that

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Speaker 1: um that duffel bag that magically appeared outside of my

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Speaker 1: was waiting on his dad in a toughel bag. Showed

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Speaker 1: up dy No. One time I was on the porch waiting,

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Speaker 1: I was like, better than my dad's showing up. Showed up. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Here it is, Kurt Nate. It's the twenty four piece

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Speaker 1: family pack. It's got twenty four bonus or classic boneing

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Speaker 1: wings with up to three flavors, large fries, veggie sticks,

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Speaker 1: and three dips. That's not what I held. We had

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Speaker 1: a we had two. No, we had two wing, two

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Speaker 1: a little bit left in the fridge. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get to some football, fellas. Enough with the pleasant trees.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have beaten the Giant seven straight times. What does

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Speaker 1: that mean? Is every game a new game or there's

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Speaker 1: such things. Does that do when a team owned you

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Speaker 1: your Nate. You're Jesse, not jump in anytime? Pretty Jesse

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Speaker 1: is my Mica, Pretty dress, Jesse, whatever what you want,

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Speaker 1: We hear you, Shannon Um it's it's it gives you

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Speaker 1: and trying you're freezing Jesse can y'all hear him now

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Speaker 1: they can hear him online, but he was trying to say,

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Speaker 1: is it gives your confidence as a team that you're

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Speaker 1: going into Like the Cowboys, they have confidence. They've beaten

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Speaker 1: this team, They know this team. They play them twice

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Speaker 1: god knows win and now it's for a spot of

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a classic battle. You may you

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Speaker 1: Nate was saying, when you play a team two times

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Speaker 1: granted there's a new head coach, but the office, Courting

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a dog fight. You bet, you

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Speaker 1: bet your bottom dollar it's gonna be a dog fight.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a big dog fight. Players say this

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Speaker 1: Shannon know, Mexico Award. I mean, all those things are

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Speaker 1: And those guys lose the game. I'll tell you. Check

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Speaker 1: Jes up Froze, what is going on today? What were

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Speaker 1: can get things going all of a sudden. It's like

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Speaker 1: how to hit angles. He knows when to take off.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of times you see linebackers try

428
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Speaker 1: to run in but you'll see And I ain't gonna

429
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: bring the kid name up. Y'all know who I'm talking about,

430
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: trying to run through a hole and missed the tackle

431
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: all together with this dude know how to run through

432
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: a hole and make it hit you for a loss.

433
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 1: Blake Martinez is smart. He's a tackling machine. He's got

434
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: a one hundred and forty tackles right now, and I

435
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: bet you a bunch of missolos, and and he's not

436
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: eight yards down the field all of them. No, I'm

437
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: a I'm a huge Blake Martinez fan, simply because he

438
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Speaker 1: does everything right and he's not going to wile you

439
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: with speed or while you with power. He's going to

440
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: do everything right. He's gonna be at the point of attack,

441
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna shed blocks, he's gonna read his keys, he's

442
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: gonna make sure his angles is there's alignment, assignment is

443
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: going to be correct. And then at the end of

444
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: it all, at the end of it all, when it

445
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: comes to that last moment, right it comes to the

446
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: joe meeting the joe in the hole, whether that be

447
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: running back, quarterback, tight end, whoever it may be, when

448
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: it comes to the finishing product bringing the guy down

449
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: in a tackle, he doesn't miss many of them, if

450
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Speaker 1: any of them. He finishes the job. He lines up right,

451
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: he reads his keys, he gets downhill, and when he

452
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Speaker 1: gets the point of contact, nine point nine nine nine

453
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Speaker 1: percent the time you are coming down, you're he's not

454
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: gonna whiff, he's not gonna arm tackle. He's not gonna

455
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: close his eyes. And that's what I appreciate about a

456
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Speaker 1: guy like Blake Martinez is that he doesn't have the

457
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't look like Jayleen Smith and you

458
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: know who looks like he's been built in a lab. Right.

459
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: He's not gonna run the fastest, he's not gonna be

460
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: the all this, But when it comes down to him

461
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: doing what you need him to do, and that's making

462
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Speaker 1: the tackle at the line of scrimmage, behind the line

463
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, a little bit past the line of scrimmage.

464
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: Like they said, they ain't gonna be eight yards down

465
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Speaker 1: the field. He will be there and you will come down.

466
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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? The guards? Then they got to

467
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: get to that second level and get to him. Yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir,

468
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: see a guy like him. When I played against a

469
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: guy like Blake Martinez, I didn't play no games with him.

470
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Speaker 1: Whenever I got a chance to rustom him or to

471
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Speaker 1: maul him, I did because the way you be the

472
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: kid like that, you gotta literally physically beat him down.

473
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Speaker 1: You ain't never gonna mentally beat him down, but you

474
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: gotta just wear him down because if you don't laid

475
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: in the game. He'll make that play for that for

476
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: that one yard loss or that no game, and you'd

477
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: be like, wow, Blake Martin, you say you might not

478
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Speaker 1: Blake Martinez. You know it be that one guy. So

479
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: you got to maul him more like you just have

480
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: to do Sam Mills for new what he had to

481
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: maul this kid man because if you didn't, he was

482
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Speaker 1: gonna make the play. You got him in the middle,

483
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: and then on the line you've got Dexter Lawrence Is

484
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: sixty four three forty two, Daln thomplins In sixty three

485
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: three seventeen, Leonard Williams six five three or two. I mean,

486
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: did you just stick with the game plan and try

487
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: to pound it up the middle or you got to

488
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: work to the outside on these guys. Yeah. You when

489
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: you run into three four, it's built to make you

490
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: run everything up between the tackles. They want you up

491
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Speaker 1: in between the tackles, you know, because you don't. You know,

492
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: you got those linebackers outside set in the edge, so

493
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: you want to get them back up into the middle.

494
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: Leonard is playing nice. He got eight point five sacks.

495
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: It's hard to say, man, it's hard to say. It's

496
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: whatever the coaches see, Man, but they're gonna have to

497
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Speaker 1: run the ball effectively. You know, I'm talking about three

498
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: point four, three point five, so that coach coach color

499
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: Moore can have opportunities to call the pass plays he want.

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00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 1: I'm just believing Kurt that, and I'm believing it so much. Man,

501
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: and Jesse, you slow me down if I get out

502
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: of hand, which I do know I'm going to do

503
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: a lot of time. Can't nobody to stop our receiver's

504
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 1: home boy, and and and and our quarterback has been

505
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: on fire. He been He threw a little bit sometime

506
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: off kilter, but for the most far, our quarterback has

507
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: been on fire. Man, and the running back thing is

508
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: leveled out now. It's just no way the Giants should

509
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: be able to touch our receivers. They don't have enough

510
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: back there, my friend. And they pass rush is good,

511
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: but it ain't great. All they got thirty four sacks.

512
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: Just I was gonna ask you that with this offense

513
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: playing different than they played the first time the Giants,

514
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: you know, Dalton's got it looks like he's got to

515
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: go on the offensive lines gel and playing a lot better.

516
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: The running game is different than the first time they

517
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: met the receivers or the receivers. Does that give the

518
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys an advantage over the Giants because they've seen kind

519
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: of the same look from the Giants on defense, but

520
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: the Giants haven't seen this version of the offense. Does

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00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: that give you a little bit of an edge if

522
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys. I think the Cowboys just personnel wise,

523
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: have an edge. But this is the game where we

524
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: talk about Kellen Moore and his inexperience. You don't get

525
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: cute like, this isn't the game for you to get cute.

526
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: This isn't the game for you to come in here

527
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden say, hey, we're gonna trick

528
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: him and we're gonna be something completely different. No, if

529
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: my guy is gonna beat his guy, let's just go

530
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: ahead and beat him. And you don't have to get

531
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: in these situations. You gotta go ahead and put in

532
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: a game plan that's going to be conducive and productive

533
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Speaker 1: for you. One of the things that I do love

534
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys have done with their offense, and in

535
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: particular with Andy Dalton, is his ability to get the

536
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: ball out of his hands quicker. Earlier in the year,

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00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: you saw him hold the ball a lot. He's notoriously

538
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: been known for holding the ball, babe, just a little

539
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: bit too long, And so getting those shorter routes out,

540
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: the slants, the hitches so that the ball is out

541
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: of his hands, so that you're not taking the hits

542
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: and the ball is and you're not being sacked, and

543
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: the ball is not being deflected, and now your offensive

544
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: lineman has a chance to kind of get on their blocks,

545
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: get their blocks finished, and the ball is gone before

546
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: excuse me, guys like Leonard Williams and and and guys

547
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: like that are collapsed in that pocket. That's one thing

548
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: that they've done really well in the last couple of games.

549
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: That's led to them having success in the passing game.

550
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: So I think you have to kind of still be

551
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: alone those lines and in that vein of hey, we

552
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: gotta get the ball out quicker to our playmakers. We

553
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: gotta get the ball out of the quarterback's hands because

554
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: we don't want to have this offensive line, which is okay,

555
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: it's a decent offensive line. Not great. They improved from

556
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: being trash um, but oh my god, they did they

557
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: really they did that. They were having you would bringing

558
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: the heat osfit to go amen, and Glori Jesse, No,

559
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: you can still do that. You can still do that.

560
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: For you to do that, there's still a lot of

561
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: room for you to do that. But what it is,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to. I don't want to

563
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: ruin that confidence that. I don't want to ruin that

564
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: by now giving them a game plan that's gonna lead

565
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: to them being less successful. And that's five and seven

566
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 1: step drops. And Kelly Moore, I mean that, Keller more

567
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: excuse me, Andy Dalton holding the football longer than we

568
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: want him to hold it, because trying to hold up

569
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: against those front like you said, six six guys are

570
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: three hundred plus pounds and these are athletes. These are

571
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: as an athlete, an athlete. These guys are big, strong, physical,

572
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: fast athletes. So I want to be able to get

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Speaker 1: the ball out before those guys get their rhythm and

574
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: get going. I want them frustrated. I want them being like, God, dang,

575
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: I was, I'm almost just there, but the ball was

576
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: going so quick that they didn't have a time to

577
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Speaker 1: get there. You start doing all these seven step drops,

578
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, a long majority of the game, and you'll

579
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: see a different outcome from your quarterback. Because he'll be

580
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: getting hit, his arm will be getting hit, the pocket

581
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: will be getting pushed, and it'll be collapsing. So continue

582
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: on that trend that you've been going on getting the

583
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: ball out quickly to your receivers, and you know, Andy

584
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: Dalton advantaged there. Andy Dalton even addressed that after the

585
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: game is postgame press conference this week, he mentioned getting

586
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: the ball out quicker was a key to the game.

587
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about it when he first became

588
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback after the first couple of games. Get it

589
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: out faster, find a way to do like what they

590
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: did with Eli New York. Hit that back foot and

591
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: the ball comes out. So it's a great point, Jesse.

592
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: Something else that was said in the postgame press conference

593
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper a quote from him, we all have the

594
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: potential to go out there and just dominate a game

595
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: when you're a receiver, and Jesse, you know, you know,

596
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: between CD, Amari and Michael Gallop, one of you has

597
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: the potential to go off for one hundred and fifty

598
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: two hundred yards three touchdowns at any given moment. Does

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00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: that give you confidence as a as a receiving group

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00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: and what does that do for just the offense in general.

601
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: When you know you've got three studs that could all

602
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: be number one somewhere else that can just man match

603
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: up man to man and wherever the mismatches, that's where

604
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: you go because anybody can beat you. Absolutely, you get

605
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: super excited about that because you now know might be

606
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: your day team. That team, no matter what they do,

607
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: they don't have three good enough corners to match our

608
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: three good enough wide receivers. I don't care who they are.

609
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: They don't. You don't. You don't have three. You know

610
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: Gilmore's on your team. You don't have three Tyran Matthews

611
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: on your team. You don't have three whatever corner that

612
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: you want to name, Jalen Ramsey's on your team. You

613
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: may have one, okay cool, and he may go with

614
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: a Maori. Okay, fine, they leave more than with a Maori.

615
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Now I got potentially, I got a one A, A

616
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: one B and a one C against your one A.

617
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: You gotta be and you gotta see. So I like

618
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: my chances on finding a match up throughout the game

619
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: that we can exploit. And so because they all have

620
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: that ability, Michael Gallup, Amari Cooper and Ceede Lamb Hall

621
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: all have that they have that a one ability. No

622
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: team has three corners that's going to be able to

623
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: stay with these guys the entire game. It all comes

624
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: down to what game plan are we using to get

625
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: them the football? You don't there's a reason why you

626
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: see those guys. They're like, hey, he missed practice, he

627
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: miss practice. No, when guys know I got a chance

628
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: to go out there and eat, I want to be

629
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: at practice. I want to be in the number. I

630
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: want to be in these reps because I do not

631
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: want to get forgotten about when Sunday comes, because I

632
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: know the likelihood of me having a mismatch is very

633
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: very high, whether it be in the slot, whether we

634
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: be a bunch, whether we be in two by two,

635
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: three by one, however you want to however you want

636
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: to break it down, and we've seen it at a

637
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: number of times throughout the season where this guy went

638
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: off on one fifty, that guy went off on one

639
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: to fifty. We had two guys go off four hundred.

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Speaker 1: it's a different game. A different game gets off early.

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Speaker 1: Here's why they because nine times out of ten a

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Speaker 1: turn this thing over to Kurt, I want to give

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Speaker 1: us the last I guess week or so, send us

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Speaker 1: a few different tweets, And yesterday he said, Jesse, you

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Speaker 1: are a motivator. You know the game. At your age,

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Speaker 1: all right, and so is Kurt Hurt. You got six

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Speaker 1: minutes taken away. You gotta put minute two. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about that. I do have one first question for

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Speaker 1: has been racking up the turnovers lately for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: they're on fire. The Giants actually have only one turnover

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Speaker 1: in their last three games, so they're on a dry spell.

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Speaker 1: Is that Can Dallas take advantage of that in any way?

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Speaker 1: Can they say, oh we can, We can maybe try

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Speaker 1: a little be a little riskier, or try this or that.

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Speaker 1: Because just because they're not coming up with turnovers right now,

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Speaker 1: an't talk about joan No, don't don't play no games. No, don't, no,

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Speaker 1: don't don't don't do that. Because if this was a

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Speaker 1: is a Dallas team, I say no, don't go out

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Speaker 1: what you do. I mean, because we just we just

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Speaker 1: a small ways away from failure, a small ways away.

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Speaker 1: And I hate to say that and be negative because

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Speaker 1: But do not play. This is a delicate recipe. It

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Speaker 1: they need to play it safe. Then Dalton, no, just

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Speaker 1: do do what you've been doing, and Callum has been doing,

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Speaker 1: calling some nice plays I mean he's been aggressive, he's

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Speaker 1: been going forward with all of his plays. We have

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Speaker 1: to do what you continue to build on this um,

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Speaker 1: on this confidence that you've given these players, defensive players

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Speaker 1: you got all every week it's already get turnals. We

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Speaker 1: continue to tackle will and bring people down. You know,

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Speaker 1: don't don't think, okay, oh no, we're just gonna go

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Speaker 1: and go eighty five yards. You got to continue to

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Speaker 1: play hard and try to play smart because we have

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Speaker 1: a stop nobody defensive. You just don't got some turnos.

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Speaker 1: You talked about Kellamar Jesse's was pretty critical of this

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Speaker 1: in the last game. He's more, the offense has done

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Speaker 1: great overall, but they still struggle in the red zone. UM.

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Speaker 1: Last week they're only two to five scoring in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. They're twenty ninth in the NFL this year.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I mean, you're going in the last game,

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Speaker 1: maybe playoffs is it is what it is? I mean,

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Speaker 1: So you got to school points. I mean you have

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Speaker 1: down to be very very simple. And when you're getting

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Speaker 1: when you get down on the two yard line, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to roll I don't know,

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Speaker 1: roll out the slow white guy. I'm sorry. I don't

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Speaker 1: and we don't have an offense, like Nate was saying

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Speaker 1: this case, Yeah, they may miss the opportunity in the

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Speaker 1: We don't get there that very often. So when we

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Speaker 1: that we did. Right, It's one thing if they do

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Speaker 1: something to stop us, but it's something that we do,

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Speaker 1: or some trickery type stuff. Don't, don't, don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't. Don't get down there and all of a

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Speaker 1: with him and then't That's what I'm saying, like, like,

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Speaker 1: why am I putting Blake Bell and any Dalton in

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Speaker 1: that situation. Let's not do that. Let's let's let's not

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Speaker 1: put this this very rare, imprecious red zone opportunity on

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Speaker 1: that we feel pretty confident in. Let's put this on

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Speaker 1: the shoulders to Zeke, Hell, Tony Polo or Mark something

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Speaker 1: like that. I don't want to put it on Blake

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Speaker 1: Bell in a situation where we don't get to the

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Speaker 1: I don't want to trick it up with Blake Bell

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Speaker 1: and Andy Dalton rolling out to the flats trying to

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Speaker 1: do whatever they were trying to do. So so Kellen's

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Speaker 1: thinking is everybody's focusing on Zeke. I'm gonna trick it up,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, we're gonna win or lose with our

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Speaker 1: best guys. That's it, especially down here on the two

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Speaker 1: tell you right, Nate, So simple, Kurt, trick it up

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Speaker 1: to just win with our best guys. Yeah, the one

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Speaker 1: that's nothing, but probably it's not. We We ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Ain't much field out here. It's two yards between you

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Speaker 1: and pay dirt. I'm just going, like Nate, we're saying earlier,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna dog you. I'm gonna dog you and drive

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Speaker 1: you intoday. I'm gonna drive you into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Because if I drive you into the end zone, but

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Speaker 1: that means all the running back gotta do is come

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Speaker 1: up my butt and he's in the end zone for

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. I ain't gonna do all that. It ain't

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Speaker 1: It ain't fancy down there. Ain't nothing fancy down there

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Speaker 1: in the trenches in the red zone. It is. It

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Speaker 1: is big, sloppy, greasy friction. Get it on, Get it on, baby,

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Speaker 1: get it on, get it on. That's it. You know

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Speaker 1: what you're Tommy john zone and get greasy. We will

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Speaker 1: leave you today with those words of wisdom by Jesse Holly,

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Speaker 1: all that running back gotta do is come up my butt,

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Speaker 1: and he's I was hoping that set up well all

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Speaker 1: of us. We'll leave you on that note and we

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Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow with a very special So if

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Speaker 1: you are running back, all you gotta do is put

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Speaker 1: your face in the in the offensive linement. But and

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Speaker 1: just following riding style. That is a recipe for success

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Speaker 1: right there. So we will not be doing any of

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Speaker 1: that on this show. No matter how successful it would

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Speaker 1: make this show. We run would do it for money.

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Speaker 1: We will not be running up anybody's butt on this show.

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Speaker 1: So all right, Kurt, Nate, Jesse, Tomorrow a very special

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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve show. Let's don the Miller Light sweaters

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Speaker 1: one last time. Okay, let's send twenty twenty out with

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Speaker 1: a very thank you for being here, but we're glad

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Speaker 1: to see you go. Bring on twenty twenty one, Bring

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Speaker 1: on the Giant, Let's bring on that team in Washington.

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Speaker 1: Let the Eagles smash them on Sunday. We are going

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Speaker 1: to bring it to you tomorrow. We need to do

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Speaker 1: something special. I don't know what it is, but we'll

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Speaker 1: do something crazy, tomorrow. Chris Beam, thank us something awesome

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Speaker 1: we can do tomorrow because we're there's no talent on

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Speaker 1: this show without you, so get us something good tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tune in tomorrow to see what Chris Beam

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Speaker 1: has in store for us fellas. It's been real, Jesse, Nate, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam, see you guys tomorrow. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: another episode of Hanging with the Boys. This has been

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Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas

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