1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: these people. 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: You've not got a free shot. 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: All these networks lying about the people, the people have 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: had a belly full of it. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: I know you don't like hearing that. 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: I know you've tried to do everything in the world 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. And where do people like that 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: go to share the big line? 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: Mega media? 13 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 4: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 14 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 4: these people had a conscience. 15 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country, this country 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 4: will be saved. Worm. 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: You use your host Stephen k Man. 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: There's the eighteen December year Verler twenty twenty five years 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: around for the second hour of the morning edition of 21 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: the Word Room. Sam tenen House going and join us 22 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: in a moment are discussion about the Bill Buckley and 23 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 2: his revolution. Gab Kaminski George right now from the Free 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: Press and just sent worked out. It came after this 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 2: print and after doctor Peter var n ej and Tony 26 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: so Gabe, one of the foundational elements of President Trump's 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: economic policy is full spectrum energy dominance. Right you just 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: heard Peter say, right there, there's all kind of issues 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: now with refineries all this. It turns out you've got 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: an exclusive report if we put it up on the 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: Free Press, that it turns out a lot of these 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: climate groups and do gooder groups are in association with 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: the Chinese Comanist Party and they are quite deep into 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: American energy policy. And now at the state level, people 35 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: are waking up to this. Can you walk us through 36 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 2: your exclusive investigative report, sir. 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me. That's according to what you 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 5: just said there. 39 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 6: That's according to twenty six Republican attorneys general. So we 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 6: had reported it the Free Press that these top law 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 6: enforcement officials sent a letter to the Department of Justice 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 6: this week requesting that Attorney General Pambondi investigate whether a 43 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 6: few different climate nonprofits in the United States focused on 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 6: climate change or environmental causes may have failed to register 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 6: under the Foreign Agents and Registration Act also known as 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 6: Farah on behalf of China, and so effectively, these top 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 6: law enforcement officials are accusing US nonprofits of acting as 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 6: foreign agents or sort of like secret lobbyists for the 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 6: Chinese Communist Party. And the basis for that, according to 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 6: these officials, is that, for example, one of these nonprofits, 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 6: it's called the Energy Foundation China. It's based in San Francisco, 52 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 6: but it also has an office in Beijing where it 53 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 6: employs a whole host of former Chinese government officials and 54 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 6: is supervised by China's government directly because it is registered 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 6: in Beijing with China's nonprofit agency and coupled with the 56 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 6: Energy Foundation China's advocacy in the United States related to 57 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 6: anti oil litigation or congressional related advocacy that is, against 58 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 6: fossil fuel and production of oil. The Attorney General think 59 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 6: that this group and others should have to register under Pharaoh. 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not just that their group and they're 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: taking money or mayor association. When you actually go after Pharaoh, 62 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: you're saying that their purpose right is to represent the 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: interest of another country, in this case the Chinese Companies Party. 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: How did it get because these things just didn't appear yesterday. 65 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: How long has this been going on? 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: And how have other DOJ officials and other state officials 67 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: looked the other way on this? 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 6: So the interesting thing about the Energy Foundation in China 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 6: is that this scrutiny is not new. This is a 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 6: charity that has been registered with the IRS since nineteen 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 6: ninety one, and over the past five years roughly, there 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 6: has been heightened scrutiny of them, particularly among Republicans who 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 6: are hawkish on China and believe that Beijing is indirectly 74 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 6: or directly propping up groups in the United States that 75 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 6: have this anti oil agenda that is aiming to boost China, 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 6: which is I mean China trade tensions have you know, 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 6: you said Peter Navarro and who was talking about trade tensions. 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 6: Trade tensions have continued to escalate between the United States 79 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 6: and China. Beijing has been continuing to import oil from adversary, 80 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 6: other adversaries of the United States like Venezuela, and so. 81 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 5: Coupled with that, and the other sort of leg of this. 82 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 6: Is that there has been heightened scrutiny in the United 83 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 6: States of climate related organizations engaged in disruptive sort of protests. 84 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 6: In Washington, DC, where I live, there the Congressional baseball 85 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 6: game every few years now there's climate protesters running on 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 6: the field. Around the world, there's been reporting about climate 87 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 6: protesters throwing paint at fine art or gluing themselves to 88 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 6: streets or cars, which has only led American officials to 89 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 6: believe this is a national security issue, a national security 90 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 6: issue paying too oil to energy, and so the funding 91 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 6: is aiming to, you know, look into that further. 92 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: No, I mean. 93 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: They're they're they're trying to, you know, stop refineries make 94 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: the cost of American energy because it makes us a 95 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: competitive This is a group. 96 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: The Chinese Commist Party. 97 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: Has a one trillion dollar trade surplus this year annually. 98 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: You know, folks think about that. You talk about adversaries. 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: Venezuela is bad enough. But I said this, you know, 100 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: even if you don't want to get in the middle 101 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: of the Israeli situation in the Middle East, I've been saying, 102 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: the Iranians, the mulas are in business for one reason. 103 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: They basically have a long term output deals with the 104 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: Chinese Companists Party. 105 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: I think I think that, I think around or the. 106 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: Persians provide fifty or sixty percent of the of the 107 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: energy for the Chinese Communist Party. I mean, the Chinese 108 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: Counts Party has a total master plan geopolitic. Part of 109 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: it is to hurt the United States when it comes 110 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: to Trump's full spectrum energy dominance. Gabe, do you expect 111 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: action to be taken? You said, this has been reviewed 112 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: for a while, you get twenty six ags. Now it's 113 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: a Pambondi she swamped with so much. You know, we 114 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: got we're arguing the DJ's got to get up to 115 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: Brown University every day. We're banging on them. You know, 116 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: we'd love these folks, but there's just so much to do. 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: Are they going to have inside the group over there? 118 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Are they going to have the capacity to actually take 119 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: on the CCP. 120 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: I reached out to the Department of Justice. I did 121 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 5: not hear back. 122 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 6: If you Steve, if you hear anything from people a DOJ, 123 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 6: you know, let us all know. But generally, Farah has 124 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 6: long been a dormant office. In fact, for decades, from 125 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 6: about nineteen eighty eight to twenty sixteen, they were I 126 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 6: believe under or around ten Farah prosecutions as a whole, 127 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 6: which really shows how much of an obscure law. 128 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 5: It's been viewed that ramped up post twenty sixteen. 129 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 6: But right now, after Attorney General Pam Bondi issued a 130 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 6: memo or she joined the Trump administration that signaled to 131 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 6: law firms and lobbying firms in Washington that the DJ 132 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 6: was only focusing on the most serious what they determined 133 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 6: to be the most serious Farah offenses, what they determined 134 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 6: to be cases that are treason or espionage and so 135 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 6: on that basis, it's really not clear if the Department 136 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 6: of Justice would be able to would you know, put 137 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 6: the resources into focusing on this, But we have not 138 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 6: heard back from the DJ, and my understanding from the 139 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 6: state attorneys general is that they do. You know, it's 140 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 6: it's a significant amount of states that called for this 141 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 6: action and they do aim to have conversations with the 142 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 6: DOJ to force this issue. 143 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: Gabe, where do people get you? 144 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: Where they get your rings at Free Press, and where 145 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: they find your social media? 146 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 6: Sir, Yeah, you can read all of myne my colleagues 147 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 6: reporting at the FP dot com and follow me on xt. 148 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 5: Ge Kominski. 149 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 2: Brother, Thank you so much, Kski. It's fantastic, great report. 150 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: We're going to push it out and we'll check in 151 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: with the DOJ to make sure there's some action being taken. 152 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: Let us know, Sam Tan, Sam Tannan House, Marxism, Communism, 153 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: Bill Buckley with Whittaker Chambers and others fully supported McCarthy 154 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: because they realized after the defeated the fascist imperial Japan, 155 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: the Nazis and uh, the Italian fascists, that communism right, 156 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: and you know one of them was our ally, another 157 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: one really wasn't, that communism was going to be a massive, 158 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: massive problem and it's going to be a global conflict. 159 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: So uh, he wrote a book, was McCarthy and his Enemies. 160 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: But he did walk me through that because he's you know, 161 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: you see today, you know, we have Navara up here 162 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: about the trade deficit, you know, the trade surplus of 163 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: a trillion dollars by the CCP. You got Kaminski saying, hey, 164 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: they got people everywhere trying to do everything to bring 165 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: the United States down, including going after President Trump's energy policy. 166 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: Buckley was a devout Catholic in a hardcore anti communists. 167 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: Was he not just like Joe McCarthy. 168 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: He was, and he liked McCarthy. They met at Yale 169 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: when Bill Buckley was an undergraduate. Joe McCarthy came and 170 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: gave a talk there in nineteen forty eight. Buckley was 171 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: involved with a political union there campus grew the Republican Party. 172 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: The party of the right conservatives, and they always liked 173 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: to have big speakers come through in nineteen forty eight 174 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: important mid term elections. We know all about those, and 175 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: the only guy they could get was Joe McCarthy, who 176 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: wasn't famous yet, but he was getting onto this issue 177 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:40,479 Speaker 4: of anti communism, of how much the gatekeepers were withholding 178 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 4: about what they really knew. That's what McCarthy was about. 179 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 4: How many communists are there really? Who are the names? 180 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 4: Let's have them. And he was very aggressive about it, 181 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: and Buckley agreed with them. And in fact, his main mentor, 182 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: guy named Wilmore Kendall, brilliant political scientists, one of the 183 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: most talented thinkers of that era still read today. Steve 184 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 4: said to Buckley, watch this guy, McCarthy. He's stirring something. 185 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: He's stirring something. He's reaching the people with his argument, 186 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: not the elites. He's reaching the public. And another one 187 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: of Buckley's mentors, another intellectual giant, James Burnham, said the 188 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 4: same thing, and he said, keep your eye McCarthy. McCarthy 189 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: is not going to get everything right, but he's going 190 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: to ask the big questions. He's going to push it 191 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: out with a public and see it. So Buckley said, 192 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: I'm down with that, and he and his brother in 193 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: law Brent Bozell, very important figure in some ways as 194 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: important as Buckley as a thinker. They decide, what's happening 195 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 4: to McCarthy is that the opposition, the enemies as they 196 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: called him, is controlling the debate. They're saying, now, let's 197 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: not listen to what McCarthy says. Let's take McCarthy himself done. 198 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: Who is Joe McCarthy. He's getting X wrong, he's getting 199 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: why wrong, he's inventing stuff. He doesn't have the goods. Meanwhile, 200 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 4: McCarthy's getting documentation from the FBI Jack Groover. And they realized, 201 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: Buckley and Bozell, that the McCarthy himself was becoming the 202 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: object of attack, and they said, why is that happening. 203 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: It's because liberals control the media. That's how Buckley came 204 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 4: up with the idea of founding National Review. It will 205 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 4: be the beachhead, it will be the counter argument that'll 206 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 4: be airtight, super smart, really fun to read, that's going 207 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: to stand up against the liberal tide and make that 208 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 4: case for the anti communism. That's how it came to 209 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: be in it with the greatest publication, conservative publication of 210 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: its time. 211 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to National Review in a minute. This 212 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 2: is you say some of the book that really hit 213 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: me in the solar plexus. And it goes back to 214 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: last night. You said they couldn't figure out because he 215 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: had gone. And it was Claire booth Loose's wife of 216 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: Time magazine that he saw speak at one of the 217 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: Republican conventions. 218 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: And she was so magnificent. 219 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: She had wit, she had class, she knew how to 220 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: put the rapier in, she had everything as a speaker, 221 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: and he realized that McCarthy was exact opposite. But I 222 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: think somebody told him that the power McCarthy wasn't his rhetoric. 223 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: He wasn't a great speaker, but they had a power. 224 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: And his superpower was he said things that the working 225 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: class and middle class audience themselves were thinking, but wouldn't 226 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: say very much. A forerunner of Donald Trump, is he not? 227 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give you an example of that, Steve. Probably 228 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: the greatest intellectual in the Buckley orbit was his philosopher 229 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: and scholar James Burnham, whose booked The Manager or a Revolution. 230 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: I think we talked about this inspired George Orwell's nineteen 231 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: eighty four. Burnham did a thing every year. He was 232 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 4: very much an elite guy, top of his class at Princeton, 233 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 4: educated at Oxford, after that, professor at NYU Georgetown apartment. 234 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: He would take a trip. He'd take a road trip 235 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: for about six weeks, and he go out to the 236 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: country and he talked to regular people, and they would say, 237 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: the communism thing doesn't seem that hard to us. Why 238 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: don't we just get rid of them? Why are we 239 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 4: creating a talking shop about them? They're coming after us, 240 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: Why don't we go after them? In return? And Burnham says, 241 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 4: they're right, they're right. That, by the way, is the 242 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: origin of Buckley's really probably most famous comment, I'd rather 243 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: be governed by the first two thousand names in the 244 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 4: Boston Telephone Book by the faculty of Harvard University. It 245 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: began with that that if you listen Bucky, fantastic listener. 246 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: People remember how much style he had as a talker, 247 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: great listener. He's hearing something else coming out there from 248 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: the people. And he's also at his church, goes to 249 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 4: church every Sunday. Right, his mother was a daily communicant. 250 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: You know what that means? She went to Mass every 251 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: single day. Buckley's very close to he didn't go every 252 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: day on Sunday. You want to hear the old classic 253 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 4: Latin Mass. He's an altar boy. His fellow parishioners. They 254 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: are not rich guys in Connecticut. It's a working class 255 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: and middle class. Buckley actually has a lot more in 256 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: common with them than people realize, and so does Joe McCarthy. 257 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: I add one more name to this thing, Steven. It's interesting, 258 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: William Casey. Go ahead, go ahead, Hang. 259 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: On, Sam, We're gonna take a short commercial break. We 260 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: want to finish this entire story. 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Remember learn why gold has been 291 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: a hedge for I don't know three four five thousand 292 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: years of mankind's history. You learn that you will know 293 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: something quite important for your personal financial life. Sam Tannanhouse 294 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: continue on, sir. 295 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: Well so they realize McCarthy's the voice they need. But 296 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: you have to be careful because you have a large 297 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: media landscape, what we call an ecosystem. It's a lot 298 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: different back then. It's very easy to get cornered as 299 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: being extremist, militant and not permitted into the conversation. You know. 300 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: Buckley calls them the racket club rules, right, which is 301 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: great because he comes out of that background himself, and 302 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 4: that's the genius of it, so he can now we 303 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 4: call it, Steve, we call it code switching. Right. You 304 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 4: can talk to different groups of people in different ways, 305 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: but there was a genius at that again, because he's 306 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: a great listener. I want to say something, by the way, 307 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: about President Trump that I think gets missed up. He's 308 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 4: just telling a report of this. Trump is a is 309 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: a much better listener than people realize. Look how much 310 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: of that first campaign came out of the talk radio 311 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 4: he was absorbing. I mean, where do you think that 312 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 4: language comes from? You know, I wrote a piece you 313 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 4: may remember about Josh Green's book about you, You and 314 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, number one bestseller, and I mentioned how some 315 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: of the language the candidate Trump used about the border 316 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 4: came out of the language a border patrol people at 317 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: the time. Twenty fifteen sixteen, but was treated as this outrageous, 318 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 4: you know, kind of provocation. It's the and people heard 319 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: that language who were involved in border enforcement. This guy 320 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: actually sounds like us. That was part of Buckley's thing, right. 321 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 4: He's a great verbal guy. He's a word guy. He's 322 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: a listener, he's an excellent musician. He speaks all these languages. 323 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: Everything comes to them through his ears. He hears things 324 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 4: and then turns him around, figures out how to do 325 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 4: his own take on them. And McCarthy was the guy 326 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: who unlocked the mystery for how to get the public 327 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: to understand this threat. 328 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: And and going forward, he realized too something important and 329 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: something very important for us today. Alex Jones on the 330 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 2: show last night and ending his analysis of the of 331 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: the speech said, cry havoc and unleash the dogs of 332 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: information warfare. Buckley and Bozell and the rest realized in 333 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: McCarthy getting banged up that it wasn't that he didn't 334 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: have the facts. It's one't that he didn't have a 335 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: thing that people would rally around, but he had let 336 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 2: other people craft the narrative or put the architecture around 337 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: the narrative. And that's eventually what destroyed him, and they 338 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: were determined not to allow that to happen to the 339 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: conservative movement. 340 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: Is that generally true? 341 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you how Buckley knew this too, Steve. 342 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: It's an episode in the book really important. After Edward R. Murrow, 343 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 4: you know, the great CBS broadcaster, went after McCarthy at 344 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: which he began to do, by the way, after McCarthy 345 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: had begun to slide right, he's very true of them. 346 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: In the spring of nineteen fifty four, he went after 347 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 4: McCarthy very hard. And Buckley had been writing this book 348 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: with Bozell. They're going through dossier's. If you look at 349 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 4: this book, it was a best seller, but one recent 350 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 4: people were surprised by. And McCarthy himself in trouble reading 351 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: him was so densely footnoted. You know, it's constructed out 352 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: of all these particular investigations of people's ideological histories, of 353 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: their possible compromises when they're working government, and all the rest. 354 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: And so Buckley at all the date is a young guy. 355 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 4: He's a great debater, probably the greatest debater of his time. 356 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: So Edward R. Murrow says to McCarthy, well, if you 357 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: don't like he said this on the air, how I've 358 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 4: been treated. You can come on and Rebutney, Well, McCarthy 359 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: is now barnstorming through Wisconsin elections coming out nineteen fifty four. 360 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: But McCarthy is the number one draw, by the way, 361 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: for the Republicans in the midterms. So Buckley says, McCarthy says, well, 362 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 4: I don't I don't have time to talk to you, 363 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: but I know a young guy who does, Bill Buckley, 364 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: will go on the air and refute you for thirty minutes. 365 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 4: Buckley told me he's sitting at home watching on TV, 366 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: the TV News, and McCarthy says it. He almost falls 367 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 4: off his chair. He says, so they're going to let 368 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: me go on the air and make the case for 369 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 4: McCarthy's crusade. And then what happens. Murrow sends a telegram 370 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 4: that says, this extension, Senator, this invitation, Senator McCarthy is 371 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: only for you. You can't have somebody else come on 372 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 4: and make the case instead. Because he knew very well 373 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: that if Buckley had that half hour he'd be able 374 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: to make a really strong case. He wanted nothing to 375 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 4: do with Buckley. That's when reason Buckley had to start 376 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 4: the magazine. If they're not going to platform him, as 377 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 4: we say in the mainstream media, where's he going to 378 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: make the case? Start your own magazine, just like nowadays 379 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 4: people start their own podcast, they go online. Buck there 380 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 4: was a pioneer of all that, if they won't let 381 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: you in into the club, start your own club. 382 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Nash Review gets started. 383 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: And then there's this issue I guess in the late 384 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: fifties or maybe early sixties, and it kind of is 385 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: not directly analogous, but it's some of the things that 386 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: are going on today where Tucker has somebody on his podcast, 387 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 2: Nick Fuentez or others, and people melt down about it. 388 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: McCarthy and walk us through how this happened. Because you 389 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: had many elements in this coalition, and he realized you 390 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: needed a coalition. But you had the John Birchers, which 391 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: I will say, if you look back over some of 392 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: the stuff before the Birchers maybe got a little too crazy. 393 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: A lot of the stuff that Birchers stood for it 394 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: turned out to be right. 395 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: You also had the objectivist on RAN. 396 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm not a libertarian, but it did have Alan Greenspan 397 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: in there, and you might say, hey, it was kind 398 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: of a weird cult, but they had some of the 399 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: biggest thinkers. In fact, a guy that was one of 400 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: the most powerful Federal Reserve chairs ever. 401 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: Buckley made a decision at some point in time that 402 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: they needed to go. 403 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: He needed to be He needed to have the platform 404 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: that determined who was in or who was out, who 405 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: actually got hurt and who didn't get hurt. 406 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: Can he walk us through that? 407 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's what happened. Steve Buckley knew Ein Rand. He'd 408 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: met her through anti communist circles in the fifties, and 409 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 4: he also knew Robert Welch, the founder of the John 410 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: Birch Society, Who's really begun in a secret meeting in 411 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: Indianapolis late nineteen fifty eight. Organizations start in nineteen fifty nine. 412 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 4: Buckley supported Robert Welch and the Birch Society for a 413 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: couple of years. He thought they were great. They're getting 414 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 4: the grassroots people out there. Who's going to knock on 415 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 4: the doors to get people to the balls in primary day, 416 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 4: Who's going to get them out to vote for conservative candidates. 417 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 4: Welch was doing this through his organization. I'm Rand. Buckley 418 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: was a little he was like, you, you know, he's 419 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: not sure. He loves the totally libertarian atheist argument. The 420 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 4: first time Buckley met I'm Rand, Buckley said this. She 421 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: said to him, mister Buckley, you're too intelligent to believe 422 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: in God. He said, I didn't love hearing that. You know, 423 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: he liked your first novel, The Fountain him. But then 424 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: when Atlas Shrugs came out, that's her magnum opus. Buckley 425 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 4: was uncomfortable with it because of the atheism, because he 426 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 4: thinks anti communism and you know, I Ran was a 427 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 4: Russian emigray, Jewish Russian emigray. He thinks it has to 428 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 4: be fought through a kind of moral religious crusade. So 429 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: he says, who's the best writer I've got who can 430 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 4: take down iin Ran? Oh? I know Whittaker Chambers, one 431 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 4: of the greatest writers alied. So he takes Imran down 432 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 4: in Nastra Review. Now that was in nineteen fifty seven. 433 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 4: The Birchers come next, and Buckley, if you look, and 434 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: I have this in the book, if you look at 435 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: the early issues of National Review, when the John Birsch 436 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: Society was founded, Buckley was all for it. He says, 437 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: this guy's organizing at the grassroots level. Buckley and his friends, Well, 438 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 4: you'll do the intellectual combat, right. Buckley would go to campus. 439 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 4: And I'm hearing now from people who say they you 440 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 4: might have Charlie Kirk go on campus, bring your best 441 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: debater on. I will take a month. But there are 442 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 4: other people who aren't on college campuses, and the John 443 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 4: burschh Society, through Robert Welch, is organizing them. In Captors 444 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: that it's actually modeled. Welch did not deny this. In fact, 445 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 4: he was proud of it. It's modeled on the American 446 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 4: Communist Party. We're gonna have small cells, We're going to 447 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: educate people in the community, and then we'll carry the fight. Hey, 448 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: you got some leftists on your school board there, do 449 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 4: we really want them? Let's have it. Let's have a campaign, 450 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 4: let's have a vote. So Buckley likes them. But then 451 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 4: what happens is and we know about this, your your right, Steve, 452 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 4: This is where the parallel comes in. In his own writings, 453 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 4: Welch was very conspiratorial minded. You know now, look, Vice 454 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 4: President Advance just told us, I believe in conspiracies that 455 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 4: are true. Well, Welch got involved in a conspiracy that 456 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 4: wasn't true. He was really convinced that Dwight Eisenhower was 457 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 4: a Communist agent. And Buckley at first said, so what 458 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 4: if that's what he thinks. He's allowed to think it. 459 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 4: The as they called them, the little old ladies and 460 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: tennis sneakers and the retired generals and businessmen in small 461 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 4: towns who are, by the way, the backbone of the 462 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: John Birch society. Right, he's a very upstanding citizens, right, 463 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 4: he said, they're not saying this stuff. Who cares what 464 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 4: Robert welt Well say? Advantage? 465 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, hangover a second. 466 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: I want to get to the punchline after a short break, 467 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: Sam tann in House, make sure you've got time to 468 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: give it as a Christmas gift. Buckley the life and 469 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: the revolution that changed America. You want to understand MAGA 470 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: and where MAGA. 471 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: Came from the roots. We've kind of gone in. 472 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: A different direction, but you've got to understand Buckley and 473 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: the Buckley Conservative Revolution. 474 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Sure commercial breaks, Sam tannan House, Next. 475 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: War Room, Hugh's your host. 476 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 4: Stephen k Back. 477 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 2: A citizen Kane over at Citizens Repressed by the Way. 478 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: That was ranked the fifteenth most powerful media operation by media. 479 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: I'd so a headtip to Caine. 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We'll never give you Choppoliver here. 526 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: The book just got nominated for one of the most 527 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: are the most prestigious award in biography. 528 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 4: What is it called, the National Book Critics Circle Award, 529 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: Steve it's critics across the country. So it's one of 530 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 4: ten books are all great books, obviously, but there it is, 531 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: and and the publisher told me about this the other day, 532 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 4: very pleased about it. So this is their long list. 533 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 4: Then they cut it down to another group and the winner, 534 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 4: you know, will be announced. Prices are nice. I mean, 535 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: I've been up for a few of even you know, one, 536 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 4: one or two, and it's great. But you know, it's 537 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 4: really about getting the book out there, so so readers 538 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: get at it. And so this is you know, it's 539 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 4: like a you know, a certification, a gold seal, you know. 540 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: So that's so very happy about that. But but let's 541 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 4: get on to the important stuff here, which is that 542 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 4: Buckley realizes that the John Birch Society is doing really 543 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: good work, and he's all for them. The problem is, 544 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 4: Welch has got these extreme theories and while the rank 545 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 4: and file don't pay attention to them, guests who does. 546 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: The media is all over it, and so they create 547 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: stories or publishing stories all the time. Good example, you know, 548 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 4: we think we're living in sort of extreme times now 549 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 4: in nineteen fifty nine, or a little late in nineteen 550 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 4: sixty sixty one, John Birch Society is now really big, 551 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 4: and it's you know, at the most, maybe it's forty 552 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 4: or fifty thousand members, could be less than that. Some 553 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: have said as many as one hundred thousand. But that's 554 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 4: enough if they're organized to make a difference in politics 555 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: and in communities, which is what they're all about. So 556 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: Robert Welch announces they're going to have a college competition 557 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 4: to see who can write the best essay saying the 558 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 4: Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Earl Warren, should be impeached, 559 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 4: and it's going to be an essay that makes the 560 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 4: constitutional or case for removing him. The New York Times 561 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 4: reported that on page one, as if it's an invasion 562 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 4: coming from Mars. It's an essay contest. But they managed 563 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 4: to scare people about it. And Welch himself doesn't get it. 564 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 4: He viewed himself as an educator. Right, oh, this is 565 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 4: in my book. So Buckley says, okay, now we have 566 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: a problem, the problem. 567 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: But hang on, hang on, I do I want to 568 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: bring up. 569 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: I want to bring because this is analogous to the 570 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: Trump movement, and people don't lose this. The two things 571 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: that Welch went after Eisenhower and there was really it 572 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: sounds crazy in the service, but he did have some 573 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: logic to internal logic. It made sense to him. Eisenhower 574 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: was a Republican president. Earl Warren was a Republican Chief 575 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: Justice of the Supreme Court. It's not like he's going 576 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: after He's going after people that they considered the established 577 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: order of the Republican and Conservative party. 578 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Correct. 579 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: Correct. Earl Warren was put on the Supreme Court in 580 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 4: art because he had been a pretty strong contender in 581 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty two to be president. He'd been on the 582 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: Republican ticket as a vice president in nineteen forty eight. 583 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 4: He's Republican establishment. One of his protege is a guy 584 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 4: named William Noland. Bill Noland was far to the right 585 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: of Nixon from California. It's the Republican establishment that the 586 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: Nasher Review on Buckley had their own term for it. 587 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: They called it the liberal establishment capital l capital. You 588 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 4: had to keep telling the editors that ran about, No, 589 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 4: you can't lower case it. It's the liberal establishment because 590 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 4: they saw it was going across both parties. You know 591 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 4: what kind of what we would call a blob or 592 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 4: something or deep state today that if you go in 593 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 4: the big kind of muddle middle, the two parties kind 594 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 4: of sound like each other. This is what Buckley's genius 595 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 4: was to lead an insurgent and see against it. You 596 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: wouldn't know anything about that, Steve. They didn't have a 597 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: conservative they didn't have conservatism inc. Back then, you know, 598 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 4: you and some other people came up with that term. 599 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: It didn't exist. It didn't exist. When I wrote my 600 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: little book on conservatism fifteen years ago on how the 601 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 4: establishment was coming apart, I didn't think. I didn't use 602 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 4: that term. It didn't exist. Well, Buckley and company see 603 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 4: the same thing Robert Welch, they realized is very effective. 604 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: But they also know that establishment is going to do 605 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: what you always do with a movement, is you go 606 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 4: to the person at the top. Buckley first wrote a 607 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 4: brilliant defense of Robert Wells defense in Nash Review nineteen 608 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: sixty one, and he says, listen, what liberals like even 609 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 4: less than a weak conservative movement is a strong conservative movement. 610 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: That's their fear and Welch is making it stronger. But 611 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 4: once Welch himself became super vulnerable because he can't stop himself. 612 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 4: He goes on television and he starts repeating this stuff 613 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 4: about Eisenhower, and Buckley and others are saying, this is 614 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: not gonna work. So Steve Here's who got together in 615 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 4: a private hotel room in interesting way for it Palm 616 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 4: Beach to figure out what to do about it. Bill 617 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 4: Buckley was one, the great conservative writer and thinker. Russell 618 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 4: Kirk was another, and a senator who is kind of 619 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: making waves from Arizona who comes in dressed like a 620 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 4: cowboy named Barry Goldwater. Buckley wrote a great account of it, 621 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: a reminiscence through the end of his life, and he 622 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 4: said Barry Goldwater had a briefcase, but if he ever 623 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 4: opened it that entire meeting at the Breakers, I never 624 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 4: saw him do it. They're there and they agreed Welch 625 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 4: is the problem, not the Butchers, Welch himself. So Buckley 626 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 4: even warned him because he liked Welch but kind of 627 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 4: liked everybody. And he says, look, you're going to see 628 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: coming after you. I am not coming after the organization. 629 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: But I'm saying, we have a problem with you. So 630 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 4: they organized. Buckley wrote the great attack on him in 631 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 4: National Review. Russell Kirk, who was super respected in the 632 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 4: intellectual world, wrote articles in America Liberal, Jesuit Catholic magazine 633 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 4: going after Welch, and Goldwater told reporters. He told journalists, 634 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 4: we need to get rid of this guy. What are 635 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 4: the reporters in the mainstream press do they leave it 636 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 4: out on their stories? In Goldwater they want to still 637 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 4: pin the butchers on him. Goldwater couldn't believe it. He said, 638 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 4: I talked to this guy from the New York Times 639 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 4: and I told him we're getting rid of Welch, and 640 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 4: he wouldn't report it. So you think this stuff happens 641 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 4: in later times, it was happening even more back then. 642 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 4: So Buckley realized, we're in it alone. We're going to 643 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 4: have to make the case in a way that will 644 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 4: finally get some props from the establishment. So Buckley wrote 645 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 4: this brilliant, like five or six page, you know, analysis 646 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 4: of all the holes in Welch's arguments, and he finally 647 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 4: starts to get some credit from really the most important 648 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 4: columnist of the time, James Resting at the New York 649 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 4: Times says Buckley has written a brilliant dismantling. So here's 650 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 4: a lesson they all learned, Steve, which I found when 651 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 4: I was an editor. I was an op editor editor 652 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 4: at the New York Times, and I would call conservatives 653 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 4: and they would say, I just fall off the chair. 654 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 4: I can't believe they are I hear two and the reasons. 655 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 4: They thought they would only get approach to write about 656 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 4: something when they went after their wrong side. And so 657 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 4: I would say, no, we want to hear other things 658 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 4: you have to say too, But things that opened up. 659 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 4: This is like the nineties. You know, we're still a 660 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 4: long time ago, but not back in the sixties. So 661 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 4: Buckley saw they had to push Welch out. That brought 662 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 4: in twelve hundred angry letters from subscribers, and it really 663 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 4: damaged National Review for a while. But then the publisher 664 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 4: Bill Rusher, who supported Welch and thought Buckley was making 665 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 4: a mistake, he tried to broke retruce with Welch. Many 666 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 4: years later, not long before he died, Bill Rusher told 667 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 4: me I was wrong. Buckley was right. We had to 668 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 4: make that move. And I looked closely at Buckley's writing 669 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 4: at the time, because he would send letters out to 670 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 4: everybody saying, what are you doing? Why are you coming 671 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 4: after this guy who's on our side? And Buckley said, 672 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 4: if the people in the middle think the leadership of 673 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 4: our movement or one faction of it is controlled by 674 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 4: someone who's on the fringe, that will damage us. Doesn't matter. 675 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 4: Everybody knows you have all kinds of people in your 676 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 4: ground troops, right. Pap Buchanan was great with it with 677 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 4: his pitch for a crusade. Yeah, you bring everybody in, 678 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 4: but the leadership has to pass a certain test, and 679 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 4: Welch wasn't doing it, so Buckley pushed him out with regret. 680 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 4: But when he had to be, Buckley could be very isolate, pragmatic, 681 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 4: and that's what he did, and very tough. 682 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: Fascinating. 683 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 2: We're going to continue this over the holidays, Sam. 684 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: Where do people go. 685 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 2: To get the book? The book is number one in 686 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of categories. Now the War Impossibly loves. I 687 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 2: got tremendous feedback, A great gift, particularly for someone maybe 688 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: younger on your list, on your Christmas list, that maybe 689 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 2: doesn't have the background, the historical background of the country, 690 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,479 Speaker 2: the conservative movement, and particularly a giant like a Bill 691 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 2: A Buckley. Of course, we don't hold against some of 692 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: what the national reviews turned into. We're going to get 693 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 2: into that as. 694 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 4: That's another story. Well, as you know, because of our 695 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 4: first broadcast, Random House reprinted and it takes a while 696 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 4: to do that. They are in Amazon. You can in 697 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 4: Amazon and you'll see whatevery number is left in stock, 698 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 4: but you can order them. Anybody who wants to get 699 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 4: in touch with me, and I'm hearing from some great listeners. 700 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 4: It's my website, Samtownenhouse dot com. Just send me an 701 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 4: email and we'll have a conversation. But it's in bookstores still. 702 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 4: I'd be doing talks and at clubs and their private 703 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 4: clubs are able to get the book through bookstores. But 704 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 4: Amazon is still a good place and they'll be more 705 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 4: available there. 706 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 2: I'm told, what about your people? Tell me the Winter 707 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: Cored Chambers book is sold out? Are they going to 708 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: restock the Winter Core Chambers. 709 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 4: I have to ask them at Random House because I 710 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 4: discovered that too. Yeah, they're out of stock. Now you 711 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 4: can get it on kindle, but some people just like 712 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 4: to have the you know, the book got to help, 713 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 4: and so I would ask them about that. Yeah, they 714 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 4: they ran out. Thanks to you. Thanks for our conversations. 715 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 2: This weighs in it over one thousand pages. People got 716 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: to get this. This is this is a prestige book. 717 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 7: Sam. 718 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: It's so great to have you on here, and thank 719 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: you for taking time with your schedule is really busy, 720 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 2: but thank you taking taking your time and joining us 721 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 2: here in the ward room. 722 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: It's been a pleasure stave anytime. 723 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,959 Speaker 1: Really, thank you, sir. 724 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 2: See how many the Birchers the Libertarians forced out? 725 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: The stories are all in there. They're amazing. 726 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,479 Speaker 2: The personalities you'll see Reagan, Young, Reagan, Nixon, gold Water, 727 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 2: all of them. And Bill Buckley, the intellectual, the public 728 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 2: intellectual giant of it all. We're going to take a 729 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: short commercial break and music that leaves us out is 730 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 2: Takedown the Chinese Communist Party. Isn't it interesting that back 731 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: from nineteen forty nine, all I remember McCarthy was really 732 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 2: about who lost China? So was Henry Lucid, Time Magazine, 733 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 2: who lost China? Who lost it? The State Department that 734 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: was riddled with Communists. Short commercial break back in. 735 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: The warm in a moment, we will fight God. We originalstic. 736 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 3: War room. Hugh's your host Stephen kb. 737 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 2: Okay, we're all over the Ella Cook situation at Brown 738 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 2: and also the situation down in Savannah with the asset attack. 739 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: More than that throughout that, we putting stuff up on 740 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 2: together all day, Grayson Moe, they're going to get up 741 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 2: before we do to infest. We're going out there and 742 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 2: shifting the flag. Afternoon show, we'll be out there, hosted 743 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 2: by a collection of folks. I'll be out there a 744 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 2: little later today and we're going to have a great weekend. 745 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: And security out there supposed to be fantastic. So we've 746 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 2: got to make sure that security around the country for 747 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 2: the rest of the Ella Cooks is beyond solid. And 748 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: that's when we need the FBI to step in right 749 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: now and take over that investigation and tell us about 750 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 2: Ella Cook. 751 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: We need to know about her. 752 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: Cameron Kinsey, former White House official staffer over there, you 753 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 2: know Scott Bess is now in charge of IRS. The 754 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: Great Citizen Kane, who, by the way, mediate says the 755 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: fifteenth most powerful site out there, put up this analysis 756 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 2: that show in a couple of years ago be spending 757 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: two trillion dollars a year in interest payments. 758 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: On the debt right and the desk going to be out. 759 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: Of control by then, So the I R S and 760 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 2: Scott Besson has told the President, Hey, everything that we're 761 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: rightfully owed, we're going to get. 762 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: Now. 763 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: The gap is between what they feel they're owed and what, 764 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 2: you know, what the citizen feels are owed. And that 765 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 2: is where in the middle of that is where Tax 766 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 2: Network USA come in. 767 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: Take it away, ma'am. 768 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 8: Yes, well, thank you so much for having me, Steven, 769 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 8: and you're exactly right, and no matter who's in office, 770 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 8: we are going to continue to fight for hardworking Americans. 771 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 9: Tax Network USA. 772 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 8: If people don't know, we're one of America's leading tax firms. 773 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 8: We specialize in helping individuals, small business owners really just 774 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 8: take on the IRS and whether that's audience, whether that's 775 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 8: back taxes, wage garnishment, unfiled returns. We have a team 776 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 8: of licensed CPAs, enrolled agents, experience tax attorneys, even former 777 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 8: IRS stagents who just know the tax code inside and out. 778 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 9: They know how the IRS operates and they know how. 779 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 4: To push back effectively. Steve. 780 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 8: And you know the truth is the IRS sometimes doesn't 781 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 8: care who's in charge politically, and you know this, they've 782 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 8: stayed aggressive and so our job is just to protect 783 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 8: hard working Americans. But we're not just here to file 784 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 8: your taxes. We are truly here to fight for you. 785 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 8: And that's really the difference between us and another company 786 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 8: who may just give cookie cutter advice and vanish when 787 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 8: things get tough. We've i mean again, we've helped eliminate 788 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 8: a billion dollars in tax debt. We approach every single 789 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 8: case strategically and personally, Steve, because. 790 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 9: We share the same values of the people watching this show. 791 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 8: We want limited government, we want less bureaucratic nonsense, and 792 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 8: we're protecting people from these weaponized institutions that we've seen 793 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 8: in the past. So that's really just how we approach 794 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 8: every single case. We try to make it as simple 795 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 8: and strategic as possible. It starts with a direct consultation 796 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 8: with one of our team members. A lot of people 797 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 8: called in previously during the Black Friday sale to get 798 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 8: that free discovery call, but really our initial free consultation 799 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 8: is just to dive into your picture a little bit deeper. 800 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 8: We want to see the full financial picture, see how 801 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 8: we can help, and if. 802 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 9: You decide you want to move forward. 803 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 8: After that free call, we flat every deduction, we fix 804 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 8: any error that we may see. We make sure that 805 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 8: your filings are clean and accurate and audit proof. 806 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 4: So even though we've. 807 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 8: Seen those deadlines pass, you know, if you've gotten those 808 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 8: irless or IRS letters in the mail, do not wait. 809 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 9: A lot of people want to stuff those in a drawer. 810 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 8: They get really scared to take on the IRS. They 811 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 8: don't even know where to start. And I'm here to 812 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,959 Speaker 8: tell you the average American does not know the tax 813 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 8: code inside and out. 814 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 9: I can tell you right now. 815 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 8: I am not a text expert myself, but we have 816 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 8: experts in your corner, and that's why it is so 817 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 8: important to have help on your side. And so if 818 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 8: you do want to get started, we do just recommend 819 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 8: like bring your W two's, bring the IRS letters, bring 820 00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 8: the financial records, anything that shows proof of hardship, medical bills, 821 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 8: proof of income loss. But don't worry if you don't 822 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 8: have it all organized either. That's really just a part 823 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 8: of what we do as well, So don't panic if 824 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 8: it's not all gathered. If documents are missing, our team 825 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 8: can actually assist with that as well. Steve obtain copies 826 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 8: from the IRS or other sources. So we're just focused 827 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 8: on building a robust case for our clients, and it's 828 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 8: very easy to get started with us. 829 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,240 Speaker 9: I'll give you that number. 830 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 8: It's one eight hundred nine five eight one thousand, and 831 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 8: we take extra care of our war room posse. 832 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 9: We love you guys so much. 833 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 8: And you can go to TNUSA dot com slash Bannon 834 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 8: as well. You can fill out a quick form and 835 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 8: one of our team members will reach out to you 836 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 8: as soon as possible. 837 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: The end of the year is the best time to 838 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: do this. 839 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,280 Speaker 2: Get the aks, give yourself a gift for the holidays, 840 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 2: take away the inks, take away the worry. 841 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: Go to text network. You say eight. 842 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 2: Hundred ninety five eight one thousand. They've heard it all before. 843 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 2: They've settled a billion dollars of this. You're not going 844 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 2: to tell them anything new. Get there, get a safe 845 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: air hands Cameron, Merry Christmas, ma'am. 846 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: Love working with you this year. Fantastic work. 847 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 9: It's fantastic much Steve appreciates you. 848 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 4: Got plant you. 849 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 2: That's Magi right there, Cameron Kinsey, Mike Lindell, I am 850 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 2: so so proud of you brother, the way you're running 851 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 2: this campaign. 852 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: But that's a topic for a different day. 853 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 2: We're closing in on Christmas, brother, and everybody's telling me 854 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: they want to give the gift of my Pillow to 855 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 2: support the causes that you fight for, sir. 856 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: Where do they go, what do they do? And what 857 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: do you got? 858 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 7: Well, the news is everybody, this is the last few 859 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 7: hours you need to get your ordering, So get them now. 860 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 7: This is it we put Remember we put our five 861 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 7: flagship products on sale for the war arm posse and exclusive. 862 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 4: There you got the. 863 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 7: My Pillow six piece tell says half price thirty nine 864 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 7: ninety eight. All the slippers the best gift ever for 865 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 7: Christmas gifts. So the slippers the best slippers ever, thirty 866 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 7: nine ninety eight. These are dream sheets, you guys. We 867 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 7: have all the size. Everything's available as low as twenty 868 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 7: as low as twenty nine ninety eight. Then you have 869 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 7: the MyPillow premiums and the MyPillow Mattress topper. And so 870 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 7: if you go to my pillow dot com forward slash 871 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 7: war Room, everybody you go to the website, there's just 872 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 7: a few of the crosses left. There's like twenty some 873 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 7: of the crosses left, and get those you can still, 874 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 7: Like I say, this is the last four hours where 875 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 7: you can you get to take that Christmas Delivery Guarantee, 876 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 7: Christmas Delivery option Promo Code Warroom. Now as you go down, 877 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 7: you guys, there's over two hundred and fifty items there, gifts, 878 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 7: there's all the stuff for the kitchen. Those are we 879 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 7: put everything on sale for these last few hours. So 880 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 7: you guys do your shopping there. And I want to 881 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 7: tell you mystore dot com to you guys. 882 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 4: There. 883 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 7: You see that square you can use Promo Code Warroom. There, 884 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 7: that's over one thousand entrepreneurs made in the USA. They 885 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 7: need support at this time of year. And then you 886 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 7: call eight hundred. There's made in the USA. They need 887 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 7: support at this time of year. And then you call 888 00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 7: eight hundred eight seventy three oneserill six too. My operators downstairs. 889 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 7: You know this is the last sport. Three four hours left, 890 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 7: you guys, who gets your orders in Promo Code war Room. 891 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 7: Everything's on sale for Christmas and Merry Christmas. 892 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 4: This is it. 893 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 7: Everybody give your items now, the best Christmas gifts in history. 894 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 2: Go back to work now, Mike Lindell, we'll see at 895 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 2: five o'clock thanks to hardest. 896 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: Working man is showbiz right there. 897 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 2: I want to thank Sam Tannehouse once again I want 898 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 2: to thank the team arrived last night, tremendous coverage from proach, 899 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 2: from speech and afterwards. This great Charlie Kirk's Show is 900 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 2: next with Andrew Covet. 901 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 1: Posto's Up, you got Gruber, you got bowling. 902 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 2: There'll actually I think already at Amfest. We're going to 903 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 2: have our crew out there. I will see you later 904 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 2: tonight and tomorrow and over the weekend. 905 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: Make sure you stick around. 906 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 2: The Charlie Kirk Show is next and they're going to 907 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 2: be rocking it out in Phoenix Sea Layer