WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: "Hard Knocks" Review 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.880 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:18.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.680 Training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:33.760 Star in Frasco. It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.640 here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com for the final time, 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.680 live from training camp in Oxnard, California, as we continue 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.159 to break down Cowboys training camp here in twenty twenty one, 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:48.239 alongside Mickey's Bag Nolan Ron Phillips, I'm Kyle the Ooman's Where, gentlemen, 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.839 we have some television to talk about since we were 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.040 last on air, and I'm not talking about the Bachelorette finale. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.840 That's not what we're talking about. Sorry, Rob. I'll start 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:58.840 my own podcast for that one when me and Dave 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.480 can do that one. And you and Hellman have had 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.679 some bonding over the Bachelorette finales. But no. HBO's Hard 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.640 Knocks NFL Films on the Dallas Cowboys and an inside 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.640 look at Training Camp premiered last night. Make I know 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.240 you're a big TV watcher, carve out some time and 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.920 you're busy schedule to watch last night. I watched it twice. Yeah, 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.520 I watched it the first time, and then I took 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.600 some notes the second time, and uh, yeah, I thought 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.080 it was I thought it was really really good. Yeah. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.120 As a matter of fact, you know, we've been around 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.520 for the other two with the Cowboys, and for a 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:41.840 first episode and trying to capture not our attention, but 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.800 other people's attention that may not be following the Cowboys. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:47.960 I thought they did a heck of a job of 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:54.320 setting the emotion and coming and portraying the personalities of 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:59.520 Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott, Micah Parsons, a little bit more 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.840 of Mike McCarthy and Dan Quinn also. And I thought 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.000 they did a really good job of capturing it. And 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.519 you know, the video was real good too, by the way, 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.239 the audio was good too. And you say you watched 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.040 it twice and you missed a very key element of 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:20.680 that show, very key open. You know. After you told 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:25.280 me that, I remember thinking when the open did and 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:30.360 whatever was said, and I said, oh, the narrator, he 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.600 must have been looking at what I wrote or said, 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.640 because that sounds familiar. That's exactly what I'm saying. I 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.880 just passed it off. It was like, yeah, that that's 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.040 the narrator way, so you didn't notice. I did not. 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:45.360 I absolutely did not interesting and nobody. And I was 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.000 sitting next to Brad, and Brad didn't go, oh that's you. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.760 Sod's used to be in and those well I'd recognized 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.919 Brad's right, and I said, oh, yeah, they got Brad 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.119 and I kind of hit him on the side and said, 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.400 oh there, way to go. But I didn't recognize my 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.840 own voice. That was off of a Talking Cowboys podcast, right, 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.919 I believe clip that was our first one here. I 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.079 think that's what you said. Yeah, so do we get 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:14.119 like royalties off that from HBO? I didn't sign any release. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:20.160 you don't get royalties. You know when we with the 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.680 Zinger over here, when we when we when when samt 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.600 does the making of the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, and when 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.480 we're the judges and they kind of use that stuff. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.400 We got to resign a release, do you really? Yeah? 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.680 If that's because your face is on it, I wonder 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.240 if your voice doesn't count as much? Maybe? I think. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.960 I think when they signed the paperwork to be all access, 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.520 it included podcasts, it included anything we do about here. Yeah, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.320 probably I don't I don't think we have separate negotiations. Yeah, 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.720 I'm sure that that paper was probably signed for us 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.280 a lot further back than what checks it checks in 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.760 the mail, right. But yeah, you're listening to the world 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.800 famous Now Talking Cowboys podcast because they used the clip 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.240 of ours in the opening of the show. But Rob, 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.560 what were your thoughts on what you saw last night? 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.160 I really liked it too. I thought it like Mickey said, 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.440 I thought it did a good job of really hitting 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.560 the high points of this camp so far. And that's 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.880 kind of way this series goes. You know, the first 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.200 episode they're going to hit the stars, you know, the 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.960 major storylines, and I'm not going to give anything away, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.159 but you've got a pretty good idea of some of 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.560 you know, the camp hopefuls and other coaches that they 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.760 want to feature. You can kind of tell based on 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.720 where the cameras go out here, and you'll see that 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:37.039 as the series goes on, I'm sure. But yeah, starting 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.920 off with Dak and getting some more information about where 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.400 he came from with the injury to his ankle was 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.359 really good. I think the thing that stood out to 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:50.440 me the most was how they are being transparent with 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.600 his shoulder injury. You know, they took you through everything. 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.960 The micd up stuff at practice is unbelievable, and taking 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.440 you through exactly what happened, why he removed himself from practice, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.719 Why Mike McCarthy told him, Hey, go inside, let's get 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.240 this thing checked out. I think he was probably freaking 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.039 out a little bit. Well he was right, yeah, what 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.720 was it an oh my gosh or something like yeah? 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.679 And you know what, it was funny because Nick Eatman 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.800 and I were standing on the fence line right in 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:22.160 view of him and Jim Mauer, head trainer, and you 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.599 could he had sunglasses on, but you could see the 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.159 way he kind of tilted his head when Jim told 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.680 him something it didn't sound good to him. And to 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.160 hear that miked up was really good in terms of 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.000 just I mean, I think he's got to be thinking 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.480 the football gods are gonna screw me again, you know, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.680 in terms of my you know, starting quarterback, star player. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:46.640 And but again, I think from a transparency standpoint, everything 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.039 the Cowboys have told us the public about the injury 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.880 is what it is. It's a strained shoulder muscle that 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.679 they're trying to treat and manage and look and again, 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.920 based on this walkthrough we saw yesterday that was open. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.240 He's making progress, he's throwing, so that that was the 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.720 best stuff to me. That was definitely what stood out 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.919 to me was Okay, finally we can look at this 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.680 and say nobody's hiding anything because this is all access. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.120 I mean, the Cowboys do put everything out on the 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.839 table in those meetings. They're not censoring that for hard knocks. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.240 It's not a show from their point of view as 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.200 to catering to what HBO wants to show on theirs. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.480 I think that kind of put that to rest of Okay, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.080 Dak's ankle doing pretty solid. I mean, he looked good, 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.080 he was running good. You got to see a lot 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.240 of action prior to the actual throwing injury of him 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.640 running around on that ankle. And now everybody can kind 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.839 of see for himself in quality HD just how Dak 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.720 Prescott was looking from the lower body standpoint and then 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.960 from an upper body standpoint. Now you see that nothing 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:51.159 is being hidden. Well there was a perception there was, Yeah, definitely, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.680 I think fans when did I miss you see it 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:58.240 on Twitter? You see sire's the first problem. Well it's not. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:03.200 It's not a plot yeah, well it but it that's 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.720 the fans voice. It's a feel from the fans. It 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:11.200 is an atmosphere fans. Some fans creed. All right, Okay, 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.440 some guy got all over me on something. I looked 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.800 him up and he had two followers, and I said, 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.960 go tweak to your two followers, get off of mine. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.320 I saw that. I sent it to a couple of 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:24.120 people because it made me laugh out loud. Um two 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.680 followers look man like. Oh not just with the Cowboys. 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:32.119 With any sport, there's always skepticism about, oh, this player's fine, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:36.560 he'll be fine, and and maybe he's not. And so 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.440 fans naturally are skeptics about things. Well, they should listen 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.960 to us. A lot of people don't choose not to 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.280 do that though. Wow, that's that's their problem. Well, I know, 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.920 but we're we're we're educating them. We are. I'm just 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.760 I'm just saying. They did a nice job of showing 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.040 you're behind the scenes exactly what's going on, the fact 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.840 that you know, Jerry's on the phone with him and 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.840 they talked to the Texas Rangers. Hey, this is a 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.280 this is like a pitching injury. We're just gonna manage it. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.680 It was great stuff. And we saw Jerry and Joey's 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.640 breakfast after that. That was fun time. Yeah. Did you 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.960 do when you get a sausage biscuit that you salted 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.080 put salt on it? I think it's got enough salt 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.600 on it already, but it looked really good. It looked 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.200 good it's salted, or just the sandwich sandwich itself. I 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.040 could use one right now. Yeah, that would be nice. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:33.800 I could hear all the physicians your heart, your heart, um, Rob. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.480 You mentioned Dak Prescott and kind of his return from 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.000 injury and his progress with throwing. I was it was 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.720 a pleasant surprise yesterday out in the walkthrough. We weren't 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.640 expecting to see much. And I made a joke on 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.880 the fan of we may see Dek Prescott throw a 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.280 saftball around, kind of how we were talking about on 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.920 the podcast today prior. Well, he wasn't just throwing a 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.920 saftball around. He was lobbing the football for a little 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.320 bit with an equipment manager got in, did some walk 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.480 throughs through the football too wide receivers, and then went 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.640 to the far field and actually turned it up a 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.480 notch and was thrown it to a Marie Cooper who 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.839 was running routes. What did you see yesterday? Out of 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.880 kind of the limited work we saw from those two, 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.760 I saw that the ball never hit the ground. That's 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:18.200 good credit to not only him but Marie Cooper. Right, 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.280 he was cutting everything. So what they were doing is 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:26.120 he was taking a snap, dropping back. Cooper was running 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.240 different routes. They were running plays like different routes, and 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.920 he'd throw to them. And it started off kind of 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.240 short five yard toss, ten yard toss. I never saw 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.800 him throw more than twenty yards down field, but some 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.319 of the throws that were twenty yards were you know, 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.760 deep outs, and he was getting it there seventeen yard, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:49.360 was starting to chart at seventeen yards fifteen yards, and 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.679 he wasn't cutting it loose, but he was throwing it 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.200 what do you think fifty sixty percent at least sixty 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.120 feet somewhere in there. And then towards the end he 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.079 did throw maybe three quarters speed. Uh, and he ramped 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.920 it up. And you know, we'll see to date any 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.880 residual effect from throwing it that much, but he didn't 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.600 seem to have any problems throwing it. So I'm thinking 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:20.600 um at at at at the earliest maybe next week possibly, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:26.000 but possibly for that final preseason game. Yeah. And I 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.640 was just gonna say, based on some of those throws, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.199 it was more than just like Patton go lob it 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.880 up to somebody. Yeah, yep, those were those were throws 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.920 you gotta make in games. And and it was good 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.400 to have a Maria out there because activating him or 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.839 taking him off of active pup yesterday allows him to 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.439 do that, you know, during a walkthrough. So, uh, that's good. 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.559 That's a positive step for him. Although I don't think 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.880 he's gonna jump right into practice kind of like DeMarcus Lawrence. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.400 They're going to ramp him up. But yeah, no, that 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.400 was that was that was a visible positive step for 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.319 Dak Prescott that we had not seen it this point 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.880 because Mike had mentioned the day before or a couple 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.160 of days before light objects, you know, like he was 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.920 tossing a soft softball around more than those little yellow 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.040 things they were rolling out to the defensive guys recover 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.280 a fumble. Yeah, so yeah, I thought it was I 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.839 thought it was a great sign. And you know, from 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.520 I think what we had learned before we even saw that, 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.800 and you know, I think the trainers thought it was 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:27.640 a three to four week injury and so um, and 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.040 it looks like that's where they're at. And as you know, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.680 they captured Jim Miller saying, you know, we're being overly 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.959 cautious to protect him, to make sure this is not 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.880 a long term thing, that it's a short term thing. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.920 What did you think about his reaction to the whole 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.599 that the holding back in the initial parts of the 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.640 show where he was upset about the rep count that 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:55.640 he had that they talked about. I sad enough, I 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.360 kind of like that from my quarterback specific tell Dell 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.440 and Double I didn't ask you to take this rep 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.480 f right. Yeah, I kind of love Double G. That's 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.640 that's what we've been called him out here. That's that's 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.280 a side of Deck we don't we don't see, and 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.200 it's not a bad side. That just shows how freaking 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.079 competitive he is. You kind of feel that when you're 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.160 around him. But yeah, to actually hear it from him 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.640 that that's like, don't be taking me out of no reps. 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.360 I got this right, And that's him. That's how competitive 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.000 he is. And you know, and they established it when 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.439 he did the interview about the injury. You know, him 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.480 pointing out. He goes, I was trying to put it 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.360 in place. I was trying to fix it. And we 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.240 and we we assume that when we saw him trying 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.560 to straighten out his ankle, athletes are wired differently. Man. Yeah, 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.200 I would be passed out at that point. Yeah. Thanks, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.839 Just when you saw it, yes, not David the page, right, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.000 but when you saw it, and and and so yeah, 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:57.280 you you you gotta you gotta understanding of what he 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.880 thought at that time. And and yeah, and so now 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.000 he's getting to play and it's like, well, don't be 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.520 holding me back, and you know, and and he had 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.040 been throwing. That's why I think there was this perception 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.640 that it was overthrowing caused the injury, and it wasn't. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.200 It was one throw, a weird throw, and it caused 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:21.480 the muscle to strain underneath his armpit. So um, yeah, 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:25.160 so now everybody can just rest assure that it's not 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:30.079 an ac joint. You know, he doesn't need Tommy John's surgery. Um, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.000 you know, he just needs rest. And that's the way 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.640 they're you know, they're gonna treat it now. Yeah, thank 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.880 goodness for that. And I did like to see the 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:42.559 competitive side with him. I loved the the Zeken in 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.319 Dak Prescott segment as well. I thought that was a 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.319 funny little thing that whenever he opened the door and 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.240 Dak was standing right there, he goes, what's doing? I mean, 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.520 that was one of the funny I was a little 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:58.640 skeptical that it was a little Hollywood license. Still thought 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.719 coincidence was I mean, if you think about it, what 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.960 are the coincidence that that was going to happen? Right? 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.319 I feel like it's not that he didn't hear any 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.160 from it felt like a producer moment. He didn't hear 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.079 anything from Dak, like saying, hey, wait, wait, wait, you 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.880 shut the door on me, right, what's up? No? I 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.320 think the reason why he knocked on his doors because 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.040 I was looking at Hard Knocks that day and they 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.360 had like these big lights outside of Zeke's windows. So 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:27.360 they had like this whole production outside his window. Stage. Well, no, 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.320 because he's wrapping the present, right, So then he put 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.280 lights in the room. Yeah, so they had the lights 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:35.400 outside the window, right. Yeah. Okay, Hard Knocks and they're 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.840 interviewing Zeke because he knew his room, let me go 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.600 knocks on the door. Okay, so you're saying, you don't 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.080 think it was stage. You think it was Daks seeing something. 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.040 He probably walked by his room and saw the lights 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.800 at the window because totally by that. They light at 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.800 the windows so they can like get more light in 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.680 the room because you know the rooms are a little dark. Yeah, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.280 they anes with you, so that's what they did. So 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.280 he probably walked by and like, okay, they're doing something 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.360 with Zeke in his room. I'm gonna knock on the door. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:05.240 He goes, what are you doing? And Zeke's reaction was legit. Yea. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.960 He didn't seemed like somebody faking surprise men. Yeah. Yeah, 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.680 well I don't think Zeke was part of it. I 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.720 think they told to go knock on the door. Okay, 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.400 so how old were you when you wrapped your first president? 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:22.000 Can I just say, okay, that's another thing that's that's legit, too, 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.040 leg because we all know that's him. A bunch of 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.480 us watched it together because we wrote. Dave wrote off 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:31.120 of it last night and somebody said, oh, that's that's fake. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.920 They're just look, dude, I'm forty years old and I 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.000 put gifts in bags with paper over you because I 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.000 can't wrap a gift to save me. I probably went 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.200 out about the wrapping paper for Zeke because they're like, hey, 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.120 you're gonna get Dak a president. He's like, yeah, you know, 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.480 he got me one, so obviously that he had to 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.840 order it because sure, right, So they probably said you 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.720 got to wrap it. He's like, no, just give it 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:55.320 to him. I got a bag. He's like, no, expensive bag. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.240 You can't get to put a president in. Sweet. The 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.160 fact that he had to go to YouTube and find 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.280 a video to try to figure out how to wrap 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.280 a present, because I'll guarantee you what he was doing, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.240 that's my rapping today. No, you know, it comes up 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.720 short and let's all just put this patch here, yeah, right, 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.080 and patch it over the top, tape it and and 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:22.680 but see his personality, he's childlike, right, And I guarantee 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.320 you he never had to wrap a present before. I'll 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.640 guarantee you he didn't. Yeah, I definitely see that. I 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.920 guarantee you. You know, Christmas time Mom wrapped Dad's present 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.880 and you know, and finally, you know, they told me 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:36.760 I had to wrap a present. It's like, well, how 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.320 do you do this? You know? And and and how 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.880 many times did you try to put the wrapping paper 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:43.960 there and you came up short and it was like, okay, 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.520 you crumble that up and start again, or you start 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.600 ripping off little pieces and trying to tape him on 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:52.280 top of which is what he did, right, yeah? 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Hey, we're going to 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:55.200 Phoenix first, which it's probably gonna be one oh nine 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.840 yesterday in Phoenix. Yes, yeah, it's gonna feel bombing by 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.240 the time we get home. It's going to be fantastic, yell. 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.400 But at least we're indoors and there's a roof. Right 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.879 for the game, it'll be closed. Yeah, not when we 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:08.920 get on the buses and get off the plane and 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.600 do that kind of stuff. That'll be a little different 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:16.639 to run five miles. Speak for yourself, Mickey, all right, 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:22.960 see you get off. The one thing I've said the 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.920 other day, and we kind of mentioned it very briefly 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.920 on this show was the availability of Ezekiel Elliott and 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.320 what he would see in the preseason if he should 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.920 see playing time. I was of the mindset he would 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.800 probably see a series or two one one maybe this 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.800 week against Arizona most likely though against the Texans in 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.840 that dress rehearsal game, and I think Hard Knocks kind 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.399 of shot that down for me. Yesterday it was a 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:52.240 conversation between Mike McCarthy and Stephen Jones saying, I think 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.960 we should protect Zeek throughout the entirety of this camp, 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.800 basically saying, let's not run him at all and let's 0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:59.920 try and make sure he's healthy for Week one against 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:03.080 Tampa Bay. I'm not against that mindset, but it did 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.640 show that, hey, we can learn things along the way 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.760 from watching HBO's Hard Knocks that premiered last night. Were 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.680 there any other things along with that one that you 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.560 guys learned yesterday Rob about this team and how things 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.520 were being handled that you maybe didn't know previously. Um, 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.800 that that Micah was quarterbacking the defense when he was 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.359 out there and in week one of preseason, that he 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.399 was taking the calls from Dan Quinn up in the 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.840 booth and and and running that pre snap and that 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.200 you know, that's that's a responsibility that that's that's a 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:36.520 big one. And you know, whether he's going to do 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.199 that all the time, I don't know, but I think 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.120 that was good to see him do that, and um, 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.119 you know, he that was a lot of fun just 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:46.520 having him miked up and hearing was cool hear him 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.040