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Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: That next big job there, Cook Douffian, Bret Fer.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involvedle God,

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Speaker 4: here are.

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Speaker 1: Your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: That's all right. The show didn't get canceled, folks. The

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Speaker 5: show did not get canceled. It is Wednesday, August thirty,

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Speaker 5: first the year twenty twenty two. Good to have you

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Speaker 5: with us for episode three hundred and sixty three of

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Speaker 5: the Anak and Florian Podcast. First time that I can recall,

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Speaker 5: we've had a PPD postponed due to illness. In the

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Speaker 5: three hundred and sixty three episode history of the program,

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Speaker 5: Ken Flaw, how you feeling.

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Speaker 6: I feel a little better. Man.

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Speaker 3: Got hit with the got hit with the COVID the

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Speaker 3: second time got here with the COVID.

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Speaker 6: Took me for a loop, dude.

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Speaker 3: You know, a little underestimated a little bit, and I

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Speaker 3: had the worst sore throat that I've ever had, Like

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Speaker 3: it felt like I had stripped and I was swallowing

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Speaker 3: razor blades my voice. You know, I'm still a little

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Speaker 3: contested voice, a little scratch.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I imagine imagine being my wife having to hear this

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Speaker 3: every single day. So yeah, no, it's it's been rough man,

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Speaker 3: but I'm feeling one thousand percent better.

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Speaker 6: So here we are.

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Speaker 5: So Ken Fellow underestimated his opponent in this situation. He

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Speaker 5: underestimated COVID nineteen. This thing is going to kick my

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Speaker 5: ass whenever it comes. I miraculously have not contracted COVID

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Speaker 5: nineteen in two and a half years of being primarily

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Speaker 5: on the road. You know, twin, brother, wife, everybody else,

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Speaker 5: but neither me nor my children have had it the

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Speaker 5: operative word being yet. Today's episode of the Anecmploring Podcast

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Speaker 5: reporter Aaron Bronsteader at the end of the program. But

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Speaker 5: a couple of additions to UFC two seventy nine I

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Speaker 5: would like to get into. I would also like to

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Speaker 5: circle back on Leon Edwards and kamar Ousman. We're eleven

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Speaker 5: days removed from what Leon Edwards did and it really

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Speaker 5: is still resonating to a significant extent. And when Steve A.

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Speaker 5: Miachich broke through and won the UFC heavyweight title in

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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen, if memory serves, the UFC was dark the

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Speaker 5: next week, and that can really help. And Stepe's knockout

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Speaker 5: not as viral as Leon Edwards, is not as historic

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Speaker 5: per se. But you know, sometimes these UFC live events

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Speaker 5: just roll right into the next so I think being

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Speaker 5: dark allowed this one even more time to marinate. I'm

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Speaker 5: doing my fantasy football draft last night, Dude, all people

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Speaker 5: want to talk about Leon Edwards.

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Speaker 6: Well, listen.

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Speaker 3: It was just very dramatic the way it went down, right,

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Speaker 3: it looked like it was gonna be Uzman cruising to

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Speaker 3: another Uzman victory. It's just what he does, and then

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Speaker 3: and then you know the promo and the way you've

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Speaker 3: absolutely brilliant.

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Speaker 6: The dude's nickname is Rocky.

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Speaker 3: The way it went down, the way he surprised everybody

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Speaker 6: That's what I think makes people enamored with.

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Speaker 3: Leon Edwards here after this fight, and Leon wasn't that

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Speaker 6: But just for Leon Edwards and what he's accomplished, it's

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Speaker 5: And in terms of visualization, a lot of these athletes

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Speaker 5: Edwards's post fight interview, don't tell me he didn't think

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Speaker 5: You know, I mean that clip, I can't hear enough,

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Speaker 5: But that post fight interview resonated with people to such

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Speaker 5: an extent. We're doing this fantasy football draft last night

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Speaker 5: and one of my longtime friends, Craig Morrison, in the league.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's saying he just wasn't an Edwards fan,

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Speaker 5: The other side is kamar Usman. I don't know how

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Speaker 5: You maybe have seen some of the way kamar Usman

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Speaker 5: George Saint Pierre made the takedown a thing of beauty,

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Speaker 5: So when Domina Cruz was training for Marlon Cheito Vera,

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Speaker 5: Fucking gentle art jiu jitsu. But basically we had a

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Speaker 5: And oftentimes you hear me say it's a lost art

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Speaker 5: But I have to throw this your way because of

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Speaker 5: you're historically one of the better rear naked choke guys

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Speaker 5: Or is there something here in terms of meat on

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Speaker 5: I just oversimplifying?

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Speaker 3: Everybody has a certain weakness. Everyone has certain things that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta do it. I gotta get back in there.

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Speaker 6: Man, you got a lot of shit going on.

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Speaker 5: I feel I got plenty of excuses. If Jacob Montalvo

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Speaker 5: bad boy threads no less Raymond Peter Longo here for

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Speaker 8: What do we do? And what are we talking? What

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I don't know if you have anything to add to.

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Speaker 9: The conversation, but uh, I'd love to see your hair

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Speaker 9: if you could center yourself up a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you are son splash today, my man.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say Lucky.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, lucky.

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Speaker 4: I Lucky just had to be removed forcefully from the room.

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Speaker 5: So, uh, what's going on? I saw you cheated on

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Speaker 4: I had nothing to do as I had absolutely you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah did uh? Yeah? Ken Flow had COVID nineteen. He's

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Speaker 6: And it was good.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, it was it was great.

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Speaker 6: It was a good time. It was a little Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I I ended up sounding like remember like brave Heart

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Speaker 6: Coffee like that.

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Speaker 3: I was coughing my throat, felt like I was swallowing

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Speaker 5: So Ray, I don't know the last time you put

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Speaker 4: I mean I just was well listening to you guys

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Speaker 4: You know, when you start putting rules in, you take

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Speaker 4: It's a great art for everybody to learn. It's a

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Speaker 4: There's two ways you can end a fight, which is

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Speaker 8: You know what happened to end to fight? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: But you know, if you're a wrestler, you could certainly,

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Speaker 8: Right, I mean the same thing with a boxer.

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Speaker 4: You got good head movement, you don't have to be

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Speaker 5: All right, I don't have too much for you today,

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Speaker 5: and again we appreciate you pivoting here to Wednesday. There

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Speaker 5: Ferguson was knocked out rather graphically by Michael Chandler at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I think that's okay for now.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be in another tough fight here, but you know,

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Speaker 3: Tony's as tough as they come. It's hard to tell Tony, ah,

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Speaker 3: He goes in there and and gets a clean fight.

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Speaker 5: Ray Tony Ferguson was fighting pretty well against Michael Chandler

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Speaker 4: Look for me, the fifteen minute wars are certainly worse

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Speaker 8: So is it the right amount of time? I'll tell

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Speaker 4: But I think you're learning as they're going and that

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Leech is one of the more prolific

436
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 5: knockout artists up a division. He's a rank guy. He's

437
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 5: about a three to one favorite to beat Tony. But

438
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 5: I think it's a winnable fight for Ferguson. And again

439
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 5: I'm asking you guys, the experts, I don't have any

440
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 5: problem with the booking whatsoever. Certainly it's a shot in

441
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,959
Speaker 5: the arm for UFC two seventy nine. And you know,

442
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 5: Tony's a legend. Like that's my opinion, and if it

443
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 5: doesn't dovetail with the majority opinion, that's okay, right, Like

444
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 5: his lightweight winning streak deserves to be put on a

445
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 5: pedestal and if you go to UFC stats dot Com

446
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 5: you'll see it right there in terms of the longest

447
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 5: winning streaks in UFC history, and he did it one

448
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,959
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five pounds. So obviously, as a commentator

449
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 5: for me, I love seeing him on the card. Kevin

450
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 5: Holland and Daniel Rodriguez Ken Flow as well at a catch

451
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 5: weight of one hundred and eighty pounds, and clearly promotionally

452
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 5: they felt like the paper you needed a little bit

453
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 5: more ground beef, and they got it. You know.

454
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's another great fight as well.

455
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 3: But you know, to get back to Tony Ferguson, I

456
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 3: think another positive sign in a lot of ways is

457
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Speaker 3: the fact that he's not going to have to drain

458
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: himself to get down to one hundred and fifty five pounds.

459
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 3: He was a huge lightweight. He's very tall for that

460
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: weight class. He's a bigger guy. People don't realize that

461
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 3: when you see him in the off season, like he's

462
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Speaker 3: a big dude. But he is absolutely a legend, and

463
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Speaker 3: I think this will be a little bit easier for

464
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Speaker 3: him now. He doesn't necessarily have an easy fight here.

465
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Speaker 3: This is definitely a very difficult fight and a guy

466
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Speaker 3: who can knock out anybody at the welter weight weight class.

467
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Speaker 3: But at the very least, you know, he's not going

468
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 3: to be draining his body. When you drain your body,

469
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 3: you're depleting your body of water. Your brain needs water

470
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 3: that takes effect on your brain as well. So yeah,

471
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Speaker 3: I hope that this is going to take less of

472
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Speaker 3: a toll on him, and we could see it even better.

473
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 3: Tony Ferguson here and am more capable Tony Ferguson here,

474
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Speaker 3: who knows?

475
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 5: Ray? You look very serious and focused right now. You're

476
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 5: scaring me.

477
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 8: You're scaring me now listening. I'm just you know, all right, two.

478
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 5: More things before I let you go. Well, I don't

479
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 5: get it. I'm the third wheel. I mean, Ray, it

480
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 5: was got Ray.

481
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 6: What do you think about that?

482
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I you know what. I hope it works out

483
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 8: for him.

484
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to see a tragedy, which

485
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 4: is kind of what I'm feeling. But you know what,

486
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 4: that that that extra fifteen pounds is a big difference.

487
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 4: Kenny's right on the money. You can't keep killing your body.

488
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: And again, I think where I feel bad for Tony

489
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 4: is like he did have that wind streak, and at

490
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 4: the end of the day, he didn't get what everybody

491
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 4: else gets from that.

492
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 8: And that sucks to me, that really does.

493
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 4: And I think the problem with the wind streak is

494
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: in at least a handful of those fights he was

495
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 4: on ice skates. It's just caught up with him. It

496
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 4: just finally caught up with him. If you go again,

497
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 4: hindsight's twenty twenty and that's you know, sucks. But if

498
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 4: you go back and look, he was banged up in

499
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 4: a lot of those fights. He made it through. But

500
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 4: I don't you know he made it. It's like you're

501
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: winning the battle but losing the war because eventually it's

502
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: just going to catch up to you. And I think

503
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 4: that's what we're seeing, but I could be wrong. Hopefully,

504
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 4: the weight, you know, going up to the welt Away

505
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: is going to be a big thing. I hope it'll

506
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: definitely help him in not killing himself with the weight cut.

507
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 4: That's a big plus, and hopefully it transfers over into

508
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: the fight.

509
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 5: Yeah. That is UFC two seventy nine coming up on

510
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 5: September tenth. By the way, ESPN asked me for the

511
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 5: audio from episode forty four of the program on which

512
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 5: I made the now infamous tattoo bet because Nate is

513
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 5: competing here at UFC two seventy nine, so I think

514
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 5: they wanted to do some feature, but I think on

515
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 5: the internet right now it only goes back to like

516
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 5: episode one hundred and twenty two, So trying to find

517
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 5: the archives for uh, for when I made that bet.

518
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if I necessarily want that audio. No,

519
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 5: it's actually it actually makes the point for me that

520
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 5: I say, I'm probably gonna get the tattoo, whether he

521
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 5: wins or he loses, you know, but that is neither

522
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 5: here nor there. A couple more things with Ray Longo

523
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 5: before we get you on out of here, Chris Wyman,

524
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 5: any anything there?

525
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 11: Uh?

526
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 5: Have you recently?

527
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: Uh?

528
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 8: I haven't told through text messages I've told to him.

529
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody talks to anybody anymore. That's what I mean.

530
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 8: You know, these days, you just got to go and

531
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 8: do your thing. You get in, you get out. I'm

532
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 8: in a routine, man.

533
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: If I if I don't find time to make a

534
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: phone call, it's just I'm on to the next day.

535
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 5: But well, you got fifty two more sleeps till al

536
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 5: Jamain Sterling defends his belt in Abu Dabi. Does that

537
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 5: sound right?

538
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 8: That sounds about right?

539
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 6: Is your flight booked?

540
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 5: I got my flight, I'm flying, I'm flying through New York.

541
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 5: You'll fly together, baby.

542
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 4: Let's go tell me when you're I'm gonna go out

543
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: a week early, so hopefully Sunday to Sunday.

544
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 5: I'll see you when you get there.

545
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 8: Oh, you're out there before that.

546
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 5: No, I can't go for that long. I got a

547
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 5: lot of children.

548
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 8: You have kids.

549
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 5: You're not self sufficient like your daughter's yet. You know,

550
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 5: although for the first time, I went for a run

551
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 5: the other day and we left all three home alone,

552
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 5: and who.

553
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 8: Was the oldest? Who was the oldest?

554
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: Let me see, is eleven.

555
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 8: Protective by tomorrow morning? Kenny? Come on, we can't let

556
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 8: that happen before.

557
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 5: He's a little bit of a wild card. Comes home

558
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 5: from school yesterday with like a black eye, and I'm like, dude,

559
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: what's up? What happened to your And he's like nothing,

560
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 5: you know, still have no idea what happened. Wakes up today,

561
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 5: it looks even worse. You know, can't get any answers

562
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 5: out of the kid. You know, I like.

563
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 8: Him, He's not a rat. I like him already.

564
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 5: Well he did out he said, this guy hen is

565
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 5: bullying him? You know really well, Hunter has some some

566
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 5: eating issues.

567
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: You know.

568
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 5: I'm not not that people want to hear about the

569
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 5: thousands of dollars I've spent at the Pediatric Feeding Institute

570
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 5: of South Florida, but we've had a lot of issues

571
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 5: with him. So one of the things that he actually does.

572
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 5: Ingest of the three foods that he eats are these

573
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 5: little yogurt melts and it's basically baby food. So this dude,

574
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 5: hen is like, you're a baby. And you know, I'm

575
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 5: trying to tell Hunter, dude, just put him in a

576
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 5: rear naked show. Get the fuck out of here. You know,

577
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 5: I'll finish the fight, move on.

578
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 8: You know.

579
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 9: That's that's called kid, I know, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, Hey,

580
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 9: but hopeful. We got a we got a little uh,

581
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 9: we got an an doing jiu jitsu. It ain't me

582
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 9: all right, my man.

583
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 5: Well that's all I got for you today. I'm excited

584
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 5: to see an Abu Dhabi. I hope everything's going well

585
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 5: with Al Joe. Uh, you know, short and sweet, my man,

586
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 5: Short and fucking sweet. Set gon ty too EVASA main

587
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 5: event in Paris. That's a huge number on tie. How

588
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 5: do you not throw a little fucking scratch on ty

589
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 5: two Evasa by knockout this week and a plus six hundred.

590
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 8: No, no, what is he a plus six hundred?

591
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 5: Well, no, he's plus he's plus four thirty. But i'd

592
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 5: imagine by knockout probably plus four eighty plus five hundred

593
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 5: you know, I'll get a little sweeter for the knockout,

594
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 5: I'm sure, you know.

595
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: Like again, I think if this guy navigated with a

596
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: ghano throwing thse fucking haymakers at him, he's gonna be

597
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: able to navigate through this too. He's a smart fighter,

598
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 4: god yeah. And he's got to reach and the height

599
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 4: and everything else. So yeah, whatever, Oh wait, let me

600
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: just know I never answered the question. Whiteman's leg is

601
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: still banged up. That's what I was gonna say. The

602
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: text messages of him sending me videos he got an

603
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: infection now in his leg, of the doctor plucking out

604
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: the goree from the holes in his leg, that's what

605
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 4: he's sending me. So what, He's still not out of

606
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: the woods.

607
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 6: Damn man.

608
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 5: You know when you've seen guys come back from these

609
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 5: terrible leg fractures. But it's not a guarantee, you know.

610
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 5: I mean, what's Connor doing?

611
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: You know, It's just like Connor was after him, and

612
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: I don't think it was half as bad as well,

613
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: right if any I mean, Chris is a little you know,

614
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: if anybody could do with white Man could do it.

615
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you the videos he sends me why

616
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: even sending me that. I want to look at that

617
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: bloody gorze coming out of your lake, you know.

618
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 8: But uh yeah, he's not out of the woods for sure.

619
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 6: So how's he doing mentally right? Has he said anything

620
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 6: about No, I.

621
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: Mean the live I mean a couple I guess he

622
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: was here, what a month ago. I think he's coming

623
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: back in. But uh, you know, we went out to them.

624
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: We had a great time. He was in a great spot,

625
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: n ditch Wideman. It was awesome to see him. And

626
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: that was it, you know, nothing. We didn't really talk

627
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: a lot about fighting. We just really went out and

628
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: had a good time.

629
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, good Longo's always a good time. They appreciate your time.

630
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 5: We will talk to you next week in advance of

631
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: UFC two seventy nine. My brother.

632
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 8: All right, guys, I will see you. What day we

633
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 8: do in the podcast? They we do? We just do.

634
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 8: We throw seven days in the hat now just shake

635
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 8: them around.

636
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 5: There's a lot of my fault.

637
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 6: It's my fault.

638
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 5: Well, this coming Sunday, I'm going to be in Calabasas,

639
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 5: California for Brian Stan's weddings. So there's always some variable.

640
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 5: We're trying to coordinate five schedules. You know, uh, you

641
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: know what I mean. But yeah, I'm thinking it's probably

642
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 5: gonna be Monday night.

643
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 8: Does that Monday night?

644
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 5: Can you fucking wet your beak with Monday night.

645
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 8: I'm just happy. I'm just happy Kenny's alive and.

646
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, good, he's back to smiling and laughing, and that's

647
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: all that matters.

648
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 5: That's the truth. Lock at the Century is that he

649
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 5: outlives me. Get out of here, right, get out of here.

650
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 8: Take it easy. I'm feeling better.

651
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 6: Thank you, brother.

652
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: Oh he's got a good sense of that made good

653
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 5: fucking sense of you. Ray Longo met it every week

654
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 5: here on the Anic Imploring Podcast, dating to episode one.

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Speaker 5: All right, time for the pronunciation of the week, as

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Speaker 5: we call on our esteemed producer Cody Merrow. Hi, Cody.

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Speaker 12: Everything the race said is a legend, So just no

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Speaker 12: fake news, Like I just want to put the disclamer

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Speaker 12: on legend.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, some breakings.

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Speaker 6: A doctor, he's basically a doctor.

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Speaker 5: That's breaking news though on Chris Wiman and not of

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Speaker 5: the good variety, Ken Flow, that's not at all what

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Speaker 5: you want to hear. He had the complication initially, the

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Speaker 5: second surgery now sounds like maybe a tertiary procedure. Not good.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, and the Dragon fans, if you've been watching it,

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Speaker 12: like just put his leg in a bunch of maggots

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Speaker 12: and just let him eat like all of this stuff off,

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Speaker 12: you know, to bring back that like fourteen hundreds medicine.

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Speaker 12: You know what I'm saying. And updated on Connor. I

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Speaker 12: mean Connor, if you guys are watching social media, he's

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Speaker 12: ahead of the game. Wink wink, nutche nudge. If you

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Speaker 12: guys don't get it, then the fans will get it.

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Speaker 6: I I heard.

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Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what video talking to, but I

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Speaker 3: heard a little.

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Speaker 6: Bit about it.

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Speaker 5: I guess there will be no McGregor slander here.

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Speaker 12: Cokey, No, no, it's not No, it's not slander. I

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Speaker 12: mean he's just allegedly, you know, having some intimate moments

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Speaker 12: with his wife that he put on his Instagram store.

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Speaker 3: Oh right, yea ahead, right, well uh oh.

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Speaker 5: I mean do you say I am so forty four

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Speaker 5: years old? I mean just right over my head, you know.

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Speaker 12: Well, and hey, like uh for hunto, you know, Mike

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Speaker 12: Perry's down there, wonn't just have him like trained with

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Speaker 12: Mike Perry scood? Did you just yeah, how about some

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Speaker 12: bar knuckle, you know, like nobody's fighting with Mike Perry's kid.

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Speaker 5: Dude, shout out to platinum Mike Perry, by the way,

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Speaker 5: you know, line in those pockets, And I agree, Mike,

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Speaker 5: you are the best fighter in the game right now.

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Speaker 5: So I agree in.

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Speaker 12: A big w on rem of the show too, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, thanks right, Yeah, he's one and one on Remember

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Speaker 5: the Show? He actually uh lost to me and his

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Speaker 5: Remember the Show debut. This fight a rally, all right,

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Speaker 5: we got some guests coming up. We got to start

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Speaker 5: to motor. Sorry to Brian Petrie and Aaron Bronstetter who

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Speaker 5: are probably sitting in the back, like, come on men.

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Speaker 5: Pronunciation of the week This Italian man faces Romankopolov, part

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Speaker 5: of the main cut on ESPN Plus this weekend. He

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Speaker 5: had a huge knockout of Walking Buckley in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: Otherwise though, he's lost four or five overall. Cody Marrow

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Speaker 5: of whom am I speaking?

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Speaker 12: So his name's gonna be on the screen for everyone

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Speaker 12: to take a guess. But alessio to Kurko.

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Speaker 5: Sounds pretty good, Cody, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Ah, let's shoe manzu.

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Speaker 2: He says it better than me.

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Speaker 3: Aless sho manzu ko.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's how we say it, takiriko, ken

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Speaker 5: Flow girriko yeah. I mean.

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Speaker 12: See, I was waiting for the Alessio. I was waiting

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Speaker 12: for Kenny to pop that on me. Always a stickler,

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Speaker 12: you don't want to be with Professor Flory.

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Speaker 7: You imagine how many.

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Speaker 12: Black belts have you ever given out, Kenny? I mean,

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Speaker 12: those things must be fucking impossible.

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Speaker 5: So there's pronunciation, there's diction, there's annunciation. All I know

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Speaker 5: is that Ken Flows saying these words in his non

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Speaker 5: native tongue sounds better than me and everybody else. That's

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Speaker 5: all I'm saying. I don't know if it's annunciation or

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Speaker 5: diction or whatever it is, you know, But so you're.

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Speaker 12: Saying, when the John Anick biography comes out, it's gonna

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Speaker 12: be narrated by Ken Flow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he'll certainly get the foreword. I don't

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Speaker 5: think I can write a book though, because all these

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Speaker 5: sensational stuff. You know, Cody, you know why I can't

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Speaker 5: write a book.

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Speaker 12: You know, you get the attention span of a gnat.

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Speaker 5: A lot of you know, Harry, are trying to determine

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Speaker 5: what percentage of Anak and Floria and LLC we're gonna

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Speaker 5: give to Cody and he's telling me of a fucking

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Speaker 5: nat All right, let us get to the main event challenge.

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Speaker 5: It is UFC Fight Night Gone versus twuy Vasa Paris, France,

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Speaker 5: live on ESPN plus Mattine here in the States. Let's

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Speaker 5: get to the main event challenge.

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Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge.

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Speaker 2: Time is.

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Speaker 1: How do you everything possible to win the main event Challenge?

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Speaker 1: John Hennick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 2: Let's Go Boy.

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Speaker 5: From the MMA Takes podcast. On social media, it is

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Speaker 5: Brian Petrie MMA. He's got a new backdrop. You can't

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Speaker 5: necessarily see it in All About Glory here, but certainly

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Speaker 5: on the MMA Takes Podcast's good, VP, it's been a while.

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Speaker 2: It's been a little bit. It's good every I want

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Speaker 2: to first shout out the Annick and Florian army.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Most of the people who enjoy my content have come

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Speaker 2: over to my social media as my grand passed away

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Speaker 2: and the condolences have been fantastic and it means a

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Speaker 2: lot to me. So thank you for every single one

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Speaker 2: of you guys out there. And that's it. Other than that,

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Speaker 2: I'm chilling man.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your great

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Speaker 5: thank you for that did not cross my wake on

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Speaker 5: social media. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I certainly uh sent you my condolences sounded thank you.

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Speaker 5: A pretty good man though, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was. He was when I first came on

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Speaker 2: the show, when I was on vacation. He lived in

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Speaker 2: a Womanto, North Carolina. That's where they retired at and

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Speaker 2: that's where I was visiting when I did the show

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Speaker 2: the very first time on vacation. So it's kind of cool.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was an incredible guy. I mean, he's just he's

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Speaker 2: just incredible, and he.

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Speaker 6: Was ready to go.

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Speaker 2: He was ninety five, lived a full life, so uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was amazing.

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Speaker 5: Was he a Cincinnati Bengals fan by chance or no? No,

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Speaker 5: he was.

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Speaker 2: So he's from Brooklyn, New York, so he was a

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Speaker 2: he didn't really like football, but he liked the Mets.

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Speaker 2: He was a Mets guy.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, a lot of Mets, these guys you long

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Speaker 5: Go doesn't like football.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I like for me the NFL. Right. I had my

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Speaker 5: first fantasy draft last night. Everything in my life is

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Speaker 5: better when football, Isa, I have a lot of mental

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Speaker 5: health issues when football is not in Yeah, right, all right,

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Speaker 5: let us get to some selections. We've got six of them.

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Speaker 5: I would love to get your thoughts on Leon Edwards,

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Speaker 5: but I feel like we're Jason mcclock, you know.

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Speaker 2: Geez, I mean heartbreaking. Who's was my guy? Heartbreaking?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: All right? First pick today for US is going to

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Speaker 5: be a middleweight, big fight here. It's going to happen

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Speaker 5: early on the card, on the preliminary portion. But I

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Speaker 5: wanted to see where you guys fell on it. Nasordini

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Speaker 5: Mavov modus two fifty Joaquin Buckley plus two ten. I mean,

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Speaker 5: can we put some respect on Joaquin Buckley's name? Please?

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Speaker 5: Imava born in Dagistan, trains the wonder fer nand Lopez

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Speaker 5: at the MMA factory in Paris. He's been pretty impressive

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Speaker 5: VP in the UFC thus far. Stopped Edmund Shabazi in

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Speaker 5: last November, then had to withdraw from a fight against

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Speaker 5: Kelvin Gastolin this past April. I believe that was because

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Speaker 5: of visa issues, and now he draws the show stopper,

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Speaker 5: the show stealer, Wokin Buckley. Brian Petri, your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you added this to our pick them

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Speaker 2: because I mean, it's you know, four fights in, it's

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Speaker 2: a lil low in the card. It's a great fight.

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Speaker 2: Imanov coming off two fights looking good. Two fights before.

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Speaker 2: I thought he looked a little average. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: a tall drink of water at middleweight at six y three,

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Speaker 2: kind of leaned out, has a unique striking. He's very fluid,

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Speaker 2: doesn't look like he can crack, but he can crack

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Speaker 2: pretty good on the ground. But Buckley is just a

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Speaker 2: powerful dude with dynamite in his hands. He's fast, explosive.

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Speaker 2: His last fight he showed that he was mean, and

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Speaker 2: I fucking love that. You know, he Durev and him

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Speaker 2: and had a lot of shit talking going back and forth.

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Speaker 2: Biggest knock on Buckley though three of his four losses

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Speaker 2: come by knockout. That chin is questionable. Boys, gotta be

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Speaker 2: careful with that. But Chin or not. Give me the

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Speaker 2: dog shot here. I think when you're dog hunting, you

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Speaker 2: look for the intangibles, and I think Joaquem Buckley has

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Speaker 2: an intangible in his hands. You got even off fighting

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Speaker 2: kind of at home, we talked about how that could

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Speaker 2: be a mixed bag. I know he's from dagas Dan,

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Speaker 2: but he represents France. So with that chunky number next

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Speaker 2: to his name, two I plus two ten, I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play that plus the prop by Buckley by

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Speaker 2: KO because I don't see him winning any other way.

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Speaker 2: So let's start the night off with the dog.

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Speaker 5: Boys nicely done. I love this fight, ken Flow. Joaquem

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Speaker 5: Buckley has won three straight, five of six. Your thoughts

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Speaker 5: on him here in the role of underdog against the

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Speaker 5: local nasordin I mavov.

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Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be a fantastic fight, actually,

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Speaker 3: but uh, you know, I I certainly see the value

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Speaker 3: here for Joaquin Buckley. I obviously a big, big puncher,

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Speaker 3: big striker. I thought his last performance was probably the

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Speaker 3: best of his career, and I think that's the way

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Speaker 3: he needs to fight moving forward. If that guy shows up, man,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a really tough fight for iov is

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Speaker 3: that we'll.

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Speaker 6: Ivov. Sorry, but I'm a big imv of fan.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: Even in his loss against Hawes, I thought that he

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Speaker 3: showed a toughness of resilience, uh and a skill level

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Speaker 3: I think that was far beyond his experience.

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Speaker 6: Level.

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Speaker 3: He has only gotten better, He's only getting more confident.

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Speaker 3: I think his size advantage is going to be significant

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Speaker 3: in this fight, So I'm going with the nazardine Imovov love.

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Speaker 5: It, love the enthusiasm boys, all right. Next up at featherweight,

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Speaker 5: the active schedule continues for Charles Jordaane Modus won thirty

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Speaker 5: here against Nathaniel Wood, who comes back plus one ten.

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Speaker 5: So Jordaane competing for the fifth time inside a calendar

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Speaker 5: year and just six or seven weeks removed from that

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Speaker 5: majority decision lost to Shane Burgos. Would on the other side,

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Speaker 5: won his divisional debut here against Charles Ross, so that

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Speaker 5: was just last month, so relatively quick term bride for

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Speaker 5: both guys. What do you think about Nathaniel Wood here

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Speaker 5: against Charle Air Jordaane, Yeah, I like the.

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Speaker 2: Move up for Wood to forty five because I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's not the biggest guy in the Vision. But you

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Speaker 2: saw the picture of him at thirty five. He had

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Speaker 2: veins in the stomach. I don't even know stomach ad veins.

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Speaker 2: I just don't have him. So it's nice for him

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Speaker 2: to go up forty five. He can compete. This is

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Speaker 2: why he can take this fight on short notice. This

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Speaker 2: is why, you know, because the way cuts and he

869
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: can show us all skills. You know, I'm I'm borderline

870
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: with the way cuss up. But my guy, Jordaane's got

871
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: that dog in his test. And we all saw the

872
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: Jane Bergos fight incredible before that, he took Landovernada's neck

873
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: home before that. You know Canadians are all nice, right well,

874
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: he wasn't nice to Andre Yule. He's fucking three hundred

875
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: kicking him across the cage. Guy's got a little meme

876
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: streak at him. I think he's really skilled and he's

877
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: young too, which I like the active schedule with the

878
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: young guy. And I think he has the edge everywhere

879
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: beside speed. I think speed's gonna be on woods side.

880
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 2: Wood's got good leg kicks. He pieced up Charles Rose

881
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: the last time out, but this isn't Charles Rosa. I

882
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 2: think Jordiane's got to use his movement and I got

883
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: he's gotta use his timing to beat the speed. And

884
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: I think size is gonna play a different matter factor

885
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: in here too, because I do think Daniel then when

886
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: he us five six, little bit compact, and I think

887
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: Jordan's gonna kind of play bully ball with him a

888
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: little bit. Gonna be a fun fight. Both guys like

889
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: to stand up in banks. I'm going Jordane by decision,

890
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: kem Full.

891
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 5: What do you think about this one, Charles. Jordaane I

892
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: think was set up well there by Brie just in

893
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 5: terms of the unquestionable heart and the mean streak, the size.

894
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 5: I thought he'd be a little bit of bigger favorite

895
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 5: here against Nathaniel Wood. What are your thoughts on this one?

896
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I agree with BP here. I think it's

897
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 3: gonna be a fun fight for sure. I just think

898
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 3: the physical advantages here for Jordaane are gonna be a

899
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: little bit too much. I think Nathaniel Wood has a

900
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: lot of potential. I think he's a solid fighter, no

901
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: question about that. I just think Jordain has that extra

902
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: bit of nasty and I also think his propensity for

903
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: finishing fights and fighting in that manner is going to

904
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: be the difference.

905
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 6: So I like the Canadian as well, all right.

906
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 5: Next up at lightweight, nas Rat Hack parass minus two

907
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 5: to ten against John Macdesi, who is plus one eighty.

908
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 5: Hack Parasque has had a lot of personal and professional

909
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: adversity of late dropped his last two against Dan Hooker

910
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 5: and most recently Bobby Green. Macdessi still win in fights.

911
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: Making his nineteenth UFC appearance, He's won four of five.

912
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 5: Brian Petrie, your thoughts.

913
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm so sick of being on the wrong side of

914
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: John mcdessy. This guy burns me more than the time.

915
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: He fights once a year for the past five years.

916
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: That's just his schedule, and sometimes I forget about him.

917
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: So then I load up on the greatest name in

918
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: MMA and ostile ball mondays Ah a very close fight.

919
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: You know, he's got these veteran striking tricks. You know

920
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: it's different in there, his timing, and you know he's

921
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: not the fast guy in the world, but everything's just

922
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: very perfect to what he does. You got Nasrod, who

923
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: was supposed to be the next guy up. I mean,

924
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: this guy was a minus three fifty favorite ever Judeober

925
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: not too long ago he was. But next guy. He's

926
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: got good cardio, got good boxing, and you know, I

927
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: just don't know if he's putting it together. He definitely

928
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: doesn't have a signature winning the UFC yet, and I

929
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: think the spark that he had might be burning on.

930
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 2: I know he's coming off on a nasty hand injury

931
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: over Bobby Green, but throw another dog on the board

932
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: for obp here. I can't go against Medesti and get

933
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: burn again. I'm not going to allow him to do it.

934
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: I think this fight is way closer than the line

935
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: suggests as well. I mean plus one nighty fear a

936
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: bet like mcdessey, who is essentially gonna be full capacity.

937
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: We haven't fought this year yet, so give me mcdesse.

938
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 5: And he always shows up in shape. Mcdessey has eleven

939
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 5: UFC wins can flow, the last of which came against

940
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 5: the aforementioned Ignacio Batamundez all the way back in April

941
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty one.

942
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: Your thoughts every time, you know, we had sparring on

943
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: Saturday morning slash afternoons over at tri Star. Out of

944
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: my five rounds, mcdesty, he was probably at least one

945
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: of them.

946
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 6: Every single time. So I know him very well.

947
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: I know he's a very hard worker, and I also

948
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 3: know that he when he's fighting at his best, he

949
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: does a great job of winning rounds and doing just

950
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: enough to win rounds. He has a ton of experience,

951
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: He's had some very tough fights, and for Nazrat, you know,

952
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: I think I expected a lot more.

953
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 6: He's clearly talented, there's no question about that.

954
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 3: But where I question some of the stuff that he's

955
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: done is during the fight, some of the decisions he makes,

956
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: some of the times that I see him kind of

957
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: get tunnel vision during a fight, and he lacks that

958
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: ability to adapt as much as I think he should.

959
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: And that's worrisome because against a guy like John mcdesi,

960
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: he's very good at making you fight his fight, and

961
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: if you don't know how to adapt and switch things up,

962
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough. Now, I assume at a certain point,

963
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: I know mcdessey, you know, hops around, but you know,

964
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 3: I assume at some point they have sparred each other

965
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 3: so that he'll they'll know each other's styles. That could

966
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: be in an advantage for mcdessi more than Nasrat, But

967
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think this is a very interesting fight.

968
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a very technical fight.

969
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 3: But I like mcdessi here as well. I think BPS

970
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: on with this one, and I do agree mcdesky's one

971
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: of those guys who is very difficult to bet. Either

972
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: four or against but I think he'll have the right

973
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 3: recipe here for this one.

974
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 5: Those are the odds on DraftKings sportsbook right now, and

975
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 5: I bet that you guys will move that number to

976
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 5: whatever degree since you're both on the dog. MACDESSI all

977
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 5: right at midweight feature about here, Alessio to Kiriko minus

978
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 5: one to fifteen, Roman Koppolav minus one oh five. Very

979
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 5: close on the number, Brian, which way you going here?

980
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: So I got a min something I think one of

981
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: my talents, if you want to call it that as

982
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: a kappas, I like the spot. I think I can

983
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: spot talent right, and I capped a couple oft before

984
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: he came in the UFC against Carl Rosen, I was

985
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: all over him. I was giving this guy out at

986
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: gas stations like hey, romankop love as we got, you know,

987
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: and he's like, who the fuck is this guy?

988
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 8: Uh?

989
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: Seven of his eight wins are finished, is outside the UFC,

990
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: and all his opponents have over five hundred records. It's

991
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: it's good. And then he gets dog walked in the UFC.

992
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: But you know, Durev and Robinson. My problem to de Chicio, Kirko,

993
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: excuse me, Cody is inconsistency. He does have some solid

994
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: wins and close fights, and he's got a head kick

995
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: win knock out over Walking Buckley, but he's coming off

996
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: or devastating head kick knockout himself, So that's interesting to

997
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: see how that's gonna play out. This line's very close.

998
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: There's not really value on either side. It's kind of

999
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: a pick him right now. But you know, basically, I

1000
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: don't want to admit that I was wrong on copalo Off.

1001
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: Yet he's ozing two, so I'm gonna go ahead and

1002
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: ride that horse into the fucking ground. So give me

1003
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: copol Off. I think, you know, he's a good striker,

1004
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: so I think he can maybe get him out of there.

1005
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: But realistically it is probably gonna be my decision.

1006
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 5: Camp Flokopolo and two. In the UFC, as Brian alluded

1007
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 5: to their thought, he fought pretty valiantly and a loss

1008
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 5: to Albert Dureyev. That was last October. He's had several

1009
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 5: fights canceled in the UFC, so hasn't been able to

1010
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 5: put that proverbial best foot forward. Any thoughts on this

1011
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: one here.

1012
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: I think this is an interesting because the potential for

1013
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: one of these guys to no longer be with the

1014
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: UFC after a loss. I think is very real, and

1015
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's kind of the back of both of

1016
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: their minds.

1017
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 6: Potentially.

1018
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: I think Kopolov has the speed advantage here, but he

1019
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: makes a lot of mistakes, like you know, a lot

1020
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 3: of his blitzes, he keeps his chin up super high,

1021
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: tends to rely mainly from what I've seen on his

1022
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: boxing uh. And definitely again that speed advantage is It's

1023
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 3: great to watch, but a lot of it I see

1024
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: kind of arm punches. Sometimes he'll sacrifice the power for speed,

1025
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: which you see some other guys do.

1026
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 6: Uh, and that could pose some problems.

1027
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he can't knock out Dakitiko, but I

1028
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: do think Diakitoko is more of a well rounded fighter.

1029
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: I also think that he's a little bit more dangerous.

1030
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 3: I think he might have his size weight advantage here

1031
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 3: on fight night, So I like uh, I like Dakiniko here.

1032
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: Actually I think it should be close. But I think

1033
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: Takidiko's of versatility here and ability to kind of put

1034
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: together more weapons I think will be the difference.

1035
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 6: And yeah, let's go with the Italian dude.

1036
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 5: All right, comane event speaking of Italian dudes, two of

1037
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 5: the best middleweights in the world here Marvin Vittori, the

1038
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 5: plus one ninety five underdog, taken on the former champ,

1039
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 5: Robert Whittaker, who is the minus two to thirty betting favorite.

1040
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 5: Butrri has won six of seven that includes a main

1041
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 5: event went over Paolo Costa in his last appearance that

1042
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 5: was October twenty twenty one, and as you guys know,

1043
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 5: the only man to beat Robert Whittaker dating to twenty

1044
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: fourteen one Israelato Sonia, who got him for a second

1045
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 5: time this past February. Brian Peatrie comane event Whittaker. Butori,

1046
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: on which side do you fall?

1047
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: Bobby Knuckles is back, Babe. You know, I love this guy.

1048
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: I love the way he fights. I wish this fight

1049
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: was five rounds. It'd be interesting. These both guys I

1050
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: think were five round fighters. And you know, I just

1051
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 2: think he's he's the second best mitalweight in the world

1052
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: right now behind islasni Is. He wasn't there, he'd be

1053
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: champion in my opinion. The Tori, you know, Kim Yuos

1054
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: is a striker, but he tends that he's MMA guy.

1055
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: He likes to take guys down. He likes to use

1056
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: his big body get on top of guys. Robert Ricker

1057
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: is eighty three eighty three percent take down the fence

1058
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: and Victoria onlylands forty three percent of his. He's not

1059
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: snaffing a take down on Robert Whittaker. He's athletic, he's moving.

1060
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm not bearing the lead. I'm all over Whittaker. I

1061
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: think Whittaker's faster, moves better, has dynamic kicks. His the

1062
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: blitzing that can he talk about kol fluff. Uh, Whittaker

1063
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: has that too, but he does it really well. It's fluid,

1064
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: it's great, it's fast, it's devastating. I think this fight's

1065
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 2: gonna look a lot like the Jeri Kin Near fight

1066
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 2: where Ridaker, which is, you know, the faster guy moving

1067
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: and were three rounds. Robert rick can do that all there.

1068
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: I know he got caught in that third round, but

1069
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: you know, uh, and people go, why.

1070
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 6: Does victory win?

1071
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: Why you're short changing victory? And I think I am

1072
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 2: a little bit of be honest with you, But Torri,

1073
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: how does he win? He's just there, he doesn't go away.

1074
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: How does he win? He's just there? He doesn't go

1075
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: get finished twelve UFC fights, though two submission wins. Not

1076
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: the big prolific finisher that you know he is. And

1077
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: I tell you minus two thirty doesn't scare me a bit.

1078
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: I bet this at five thirty Whittaker, I'm all over him.

1079
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna finish Vory because Victory has

1080
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: a center block for a head. But thirty twenty seven

1081
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 2: across some wards, give me Bobby Knucks cam flone.

1082
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: Nobody sold more tickets to UFC two seventy five and

1083
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 5: Singapore than Robert Whittaker. This fight was to go down

1084
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 5: back in June, a little bit of a delay, and

1085
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 5: Singapore's loss is now France's gain. Your thoughts on Whittaker

1086
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 5: returning here against Marvin Vattori, Yeah.

1087
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 6: Listen, y'all.

1088
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: I'll go into a little bit of how Victory can

1089
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: win this fight, you know, And like BP said, he's

1090
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: gonna he's gotta be right in front of Whittaker. He's

1091
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: got to chase him down. But I think his best

1092
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: shot is with that pressure and with takedowns, just take

1093
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: him down, you know, obviously not being a submission threat,

1094
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: but just being there getting positioned, grinding away on those

1095
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: you know, decisions, you know, and just kind of winning

1096
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: the round just by you know, grinding it out, landing

1097
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: some ground and pound and doing enough.

1098
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 6: Can he do that against someone like Robert Whitaker. No,

1099
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 6: I don't think he can.

1100
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna be able to take him

1101
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: down with consistency anyway, And I don't think he's going

1102
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: to have the ability to hold Whittaker down. Whittaker, I

1103
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: think and under A big aspect of his game that

1104
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 3: is very much underestimated is his wrestling game.

1105
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 6: I think he's very good at stopping takedowns.

1106
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: I think his speed advantage is going to be significant

1107
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 3: in this fight. I think that's going to be very

1108
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: apparent at the beginning of this fight. I think he'll

1109
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: be able to expose victory there. I do think he

1110
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 3: could potentially get a finish. It's more likely that he

1111
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: wins by decision, as BP says, But I think this

1112
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: is a good fight for Whittaker to look good and

1113
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: show that he's still around and still one of the.

1114
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 6: Best in that division.

1115
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 5: Sounds like you guys think he should be closer to

1116
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 5: minus three hundred than minus two thirty. All right, we're

1117
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 5: going to get to the main event prediction here. Aaron

1118
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: Bronstead is waiting in the wings. I do have the

1119
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 5: Seattle Gone pronunciation that I would like to play to

1120
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 5: the masses here, just to try to get ahead of

1121
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 5: it before the broadcast this weekend. Cody, can you play

1122
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 5: the file for the former UFC Interim heavyweight champion please?

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00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 6: Cel Gun.

1124
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 5: All right, so we all know it's gone, see del

1125
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 5: see itle very difficult, right. I remember when seed deel

1126
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 5: Ask used to fight in the UFC. I mean that

1127
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 5: Cereal is a huge fucking ceial diabat back in the day.

1128
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 5: I mean, you could definitely argue that we mispronounce and

1129
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 5: we focus on the wrong syllable in Seedeel. But you

1130
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: know what, I'm not calling the fight. So Seedle Gone

1131
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 5: a whopping minus five sixty favorite here against ty two Ivasa.

1132
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 5: The latter ken Flow can be had at plus four thirty.

1133
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 5: We will lead with the former three time UFC title

1134
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 5: challenger Kenny Florian as Gon gets back on the horse

1135
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 5: for the first time since losing to Francis and Ghana.

1136
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 5: Your thoughts on him here, I would say prohibitively favored

1137
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 5: against ty T. What do you think Ken Flow?

1138
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen.

1139
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: I think Twoy Vasa is an interesting underdog here. He

1140
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: has the capability of knocking out anybody in that division.

1141
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 3: Hits very hard, another guy who's not gonna go away easy.

1142
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 3: He's gonna fight to the end. But I do see

1143
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: a big advantage here for Gone and that he's going

1144
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 3: to be significantly faster. He's going to be larger here,

1145
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: and he's very patient and he's very smart. Those are

1146
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: two key ingredients that he's going to need against someone

1147
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 3: like Taitu i Vasa. So yeah, again, I was just very,

1148
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 3: very surprised by some of the decision making he made

1149
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: in that fight against Francis and Ganu, but hopefully he

1150
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 3: has learned from some of that.

1151
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 6: I think he has a ton of talent and.

1152
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: I think we'll see him back at his best, you know,

1153
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: fighting in Paris, France, and you know, having those fans

1154
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: behind him. You know, it could go the other way,

1155
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: but I think that we'll see a very composed and

1156
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: a composed guy, and we'll see a guy who's going

1157
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 3: to execute at the highest level.

1158
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 6: So I like Seril god here as well.

1159
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 5: A lot of people don't know what prohibitive they means, right,

1160
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 5: I am saying he's a prohibitive favorite, meaning that I

1161
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 5: am prohibited from betting on him at minus five sixty

1162
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 5: because five hundred and sixty dollars to pay one hundred

1163
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 5: just seems out of whack to me. Given the role

1164
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 5: that Tuivasa is on, I understand the matchup, but tie

1165
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 5: Briy goes from nine to zero to nine and three,

1166
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 5: people kind of bury him. Now fourteen and three, he's

1167
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 5: won five in a row, brutal knockout of Derrek Lewis

1168
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 5: back in February at UFC two seventy one. He's got momentum.

1169
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 5: He certainly has confidence. The work ethic seems to be

1170
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 5: aligning with some of the obvious talent. You give Tye

1171
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 5: any chance going in here? Plus four thirty against Seedle

1172
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 5: Gone or what I mean?

1173
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: Of course I do? I mean you you asked Ray

1174
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: earlier what the knockout number was? Is plus six fifty

1175
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: for Tit to win by knockout on DraftKings six to

1176
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: one is sexy, baby, I mean, that's a nice little number.

1177
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: Plus four twenty five is nice two. But if you're

1178
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: on the Gone side, you're prop shopping. I mean, that's

1179
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: just mean. He's very high. This is a heavyweight fight.

1180
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 2: Regardless of how we compare levels or whatever. You got

1181
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 2: prop shot for this guy. And what I like about

1182
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: Cyril Gun is he's a kickboxer that came on to

1183
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: the man. He's got two submission wins in the UFC.

1184
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: He was going for submissions on the ground. I don't

1185
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: know if they were sloppy or not. But against Francis Ganya,

1186
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 2: he's rolling for legs. He's doing something and tie. I'm

1187
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: starting to really turn the corner on this guy. Wasn't

1188
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 2: the biggest things. I think the shoeies are kind of gross.

1189
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: In one of the MMA fans, it's like.

1190
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 8: Don't spit in it.

1191
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: But the guy's lovable, he sells tickets, he's a needle mover,

1192
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: he's hilarious. And coming off three losses, two of them

1193
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: by finish, and then rallying off five wins, all by finish,

1194
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: it's just a testament how tough this guy is up

1195
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: here and obviously making the training camp about himself and

1196
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: really sticking with his guns, going I'm gonna have to

1197
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: go all in on this, and that's what he's done.

1198
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: Problem is I think gone just a bad matchup for him.

1199
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: I really do. I think Gone in and out movement,

1200
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: his size and moves like a welterweight. I think he

1201
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: can take this fight anywhere. To be honestly, I think

1202
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 2: ty tooobossa. The question mark is still on the ground

1203
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: because Tye fights with zero fux given hoole bang with

1204
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: anybody stood up with Derek Lewis.

1205
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 6: But I think with.

1206
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: Tie on his back, it gives me a little pause.

1207
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: Not saying Seial Gone is this world class jiu jitsu guy,

1208
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: but he does have some skills down there. Head an

1209
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: arm joke is is one of his go tos. But

1210
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: you know, I'm good to go with Gone, and I'm

1211
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: probably gonna play by Ko or maybe even sub if

1212
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: that's juicy as well. But of course there's I mean,

1213
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: I'm a value by at heart. There's value on time here.

1214
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: But my pick is going to be Gone, all right.

1215
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 5: Both guys like Siddle Gone to get it done in

1216
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 5: the main event. If you want more content from Brian

1217
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 5: Petrie at Brian Petrie Mma. He is the host of

1218
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 5: the MMA Takes podcast and it looks like he has

1219
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 5: a new studio, so you should checkay BP. Good to

1220
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 5: see after the idle week last Sunday and we'll talk

1221
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 5: to you probably Monday night in a paper view next week.

1222
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 6: All right, brother, I'm excited already.

1223
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: Boys. Let's go. It's next boys.

1224
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 5: There he is Brian Petrie with us for the main

1225
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 5: event Challenge and we are now going to bounce it

1226
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 5: right back to the guest line and joining us for

1227
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 5: his monthly spot, the Great MMA Reporter for TSN, Aaron Bronstetter.

1228
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 5: I noticed in the Twitter bio no longer content editor.

1229
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 5: So I don't know if there's it's been an evolution

1230
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 5: of your role or if I'm just reading way too

1231
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 5: deeply into things, but it's good to see you. Nonetheless, well,

1232
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 5: I am.

1233
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Speaker 11: The department for the most part, so whatever role in

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00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 11: the MMA department of TSN there is, it's most likely

1235
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 11: me that that's behind it. But yeah, I have content editor, reporter,

1236
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 11: mostly reporter at this point and done.

1237
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 5: So, I opened the show sort of talking about Leon Edwards,

1238
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 5: and for the second straight week we began the show

1239
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 5: talking about Leon Edwards, and that is in part because

1240
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 5: the UFC was dark last weekend and I sort of

1241
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 5: softly suggested that when Steve Bay broke through and beat

1242
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 5: Fabricio Overdoom to win the heavyweight title in twenty sixteen.

1243
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 5: I thought he benefited from the fact that the UFC

1244
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 5: was dark the following week for one of only, you know,

1245
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 5: nine weekends all year. That may not even be a

1246
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 5: factor as to why this swin has reverberated to such

1247
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 5: an extent, but I guess I just wanted your two

1248
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 5: cents on Leon Edwards sort of taking over the welterweight

1249
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 5: world just eleven days ago.

1250
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 7: I think it's how it's done and who has done

1251
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 7: against right.

1252
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 11: I mean, the extra week off just gives it a

1253
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 11: little bit more momentum until we have that next big event,

1254
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 11: which is this coming weekend in Paris.

1255
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 7: I think that you see how he did it.

1256
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 11: It's still resonating with a lot of people, right, I mean,

1257
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 11: the only thing that really has taken anything away from

1258
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 11: Leon in terms of headlines, I guess as Demetrius Johnson

1259
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 11: this past weekend, there's this whole Jake, Paul Anders and

1260
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 11: Silva thing.

1261
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 7: That's starting to creep in.

1262
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 11: But I think people are still feeling the after effects

1263
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 11: of seeing the number one pound for pound fighter in

1264
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 11: the sport lose in that kind of a fashion against

1265
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 11: Leon Edwards and talking about the possibilities going forward.

1266
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 5: Certainly we could have led the show with Demetrius Johnson.

1267
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 5: You're not going to have us lead with Jake Paul

1268
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 5: and Anderson Silva, But I guess I agree we could probably.

1269
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 5: I'm sure Cody was probably going to bring that up

1270
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 5: on the back end. Did you notice all the fence

1271
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 5: grabbing and glove grabbing in that Edwards Zusman fight. At

1272
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 5: one point, even during the telecast, I said, you know,

1273
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 5: Herb Dean is not trying to sort of make himself

1274
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 5: or inject himself into the center of this fight. But

1275
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 5: a lot of weird things happened in that fight. There

1276
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 5: was the Clint separation with about two and a half

1277
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 5: minutes to go. I just thought it was weird, and

1278
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 5: I think all things cons I think Herb handled the

1279
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 5: fight as judiciously and as well as he could have,

1280
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 5: but there's a lot of shit going on ap Yeah.

1281
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 11: Well, you know, these are infractions that rarely get point deductions.

1282
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 11: I mean, if you see somebody try to stop a

1283
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 11: takedown by grabbing the fence, sometimes they can get position

1284
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 11: out of the deal. But you don't see even if

1285
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 11: it's you know, if it's repeated cage grabs with repeated warnings.

1286
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 11: That's when the referee will step in and try to

1287
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 11: take a point away. You know, it's rare because of

1288
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Speaker 11: the point system, the ten point must system. I actually

1289
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 11: think it takes a lot of power away from the

1290
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Speaker 11: officials in terms of deducting a point because it can

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Speaker 11: be so devastating to the prospects of one of the fighters.

1292
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 11: To lose a full point, you basically have lost around.

1293
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 11: Unless you're going to get a ten eight round, you

1294
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 11: basically now have seeded around. You know, on the judges' scorecards,

1295
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Speaker 11: the judges don't deduct the points themselves. They write down

1296
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Speaker 11: ten to nine and then after the fact they'll take

1297
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 11: the point away right when the commission looks at it.

1298
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 11: But I mean it's still something that has to be

1299
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Speaker 11: taken into consideration. I mean, looking back at the Woodson fight,

1300
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 11: was that on the last card? I think it was

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Speaker 11: in the pay per view with celt Yeah Woodson. I

1302
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 11: was surprised that wasn't a nine eight round. I mean

1303
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 11: basically he was basically kod in that round, right, I mean,

1304
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 11: that was given a nine to nine round, and I

1305
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 11: think because of the illegal strike. I don't know why

1306
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 11: the judges didn't make it a nine eight round. Maybe

1307
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 11: they felt that that strike shouldn't be rewarded by giving

1308
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 11: Saldania that round. But I just think that when you

1309
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 11: see KG grabs, you see glove gods, those are the

1310
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 11: kind of things the referees will warn about. And a

1311
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 11: lot of people criticize referees for not taking a point,

1312
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 11: but I think it's more the system. If there was

1313
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 11: a half point must system, which is something that I've

1314
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 11: talked about on MASS, then I think you can see

1315
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 11: more point deduction because you could half a point instead

1316
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 11: of a full point, and I think that would be

1317
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 11: a lot more fair to those that are committing the infractions.

1318
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Speaker 5: All Right, I want to get your thoughts on some

1319
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 5: of the things coming up this weekend. I know Ken

1320
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 5: Flow is going to chime in, but last thing, as

1321
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 5: we spit it forward with Leon Edwards and Jamar Usman

1322
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 5: for this trilogy fight, you know, Camorrow has sort of suggested,

1323
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 5: I think maybe to Dana White, that he's liberated in

1324
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 5: some part by this loss because now as the long

1325
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 5: standing champion, he doesn't have that type of pressure. I

1326
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 5: would argue it's still going to be more pressure on

1327
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 5: him than Leon in that third meeting. But to what

1328
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 5: extent do you buy into that that for Kamorrow, some

1329
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 5: of the pressure is off in terms of the winning

1330
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 5: streak and the accolades and the records and everything else.

1331
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 7: I buy at one hundred percent. Yeah, I think, you know.

1332
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 11: He he mentions the quote heavy is the crown, and

1333
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 11: then there's also you know how lonely it is at

1334
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 11: the top. Being a champion is very difficult because it's

1335
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 11: not just about depending the title. It's about promotional obligations,

1336
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 11: a fight week, all of these different things that are

1337
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 11: thrown at you.

1338
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 7: You know, it's funny.

1339
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 11: I spoke to Robert Whitaker about an hour ago and

1340
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 11: I mentioned to him in so many words, I said,

1341
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 11: you know, when you were champion, you were pretty dreadful

1342
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 11: to talk to, Like you barely said anything. Your interviews

1343
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 11: were incredibly dry. I used to lament speaking with you,

1344
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 11: and now talking to you, it's like talking to a

1345
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 11: whole different guy. He's got this piece of mind about him,

1346
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 11: he's happy, he doesn't have as many commitments that the

1347
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 11: weight of being champion has loofted off of him.

1348
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 7: I think that's a real thing in MMA.

1349
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think there's definitely some thing to that.

1350
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 5: And you're right about Whittaker too. There have been times

1351
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 5: throughout his career, especially as champion, where he was a

1352
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 5: little bit ornery, and now you see his comedic sense

1353
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 5: and his humor shot. Like, dude, he's hilarious. I did

1354
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 5: a Q and A with him in Singapore with him

1355
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 5: and Jan Behovich. I mean, Whittaker just had the whole

1356
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 5: crowd eating out of his hand, you know. So, Uh,

1357
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 5: that's interesting that we had the same takeaway there.

1358
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 6: All right?

1359
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 5: This weekend, ty tyvasa Seattle Gone. You heard the back

1360
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 5: end from our guys. They both like Seattle Gone. I'm

1361
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 5: gonna ask you who has a better chance to spring

1362
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 5: the upset. Is it tied to Ivasa against seatle Gon

1363
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 5: or is it Nate Diaz plus eight hundred against kamzat

1364
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 5: Chimaya two weeks from now?

1365
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 7: I thinks he's it's heavyweights.

1366
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 11: I mean, the volatility level in heavyweight is so much

1367
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 11: higher because all the taste is won. I mean, if

1368
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 11: thes connects on a great strike Againstmayah, maybe he drops him.

1369
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 11: But at heavyweight, you can't recover if you get hit

1370
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 11: by right in such a way. Right, And that's That's

1371
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 11: the only reason why I say y Touibasa has a

1372
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 11: better shot is because he's got a bigger shot, right like,

1373
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 11: in terms of the weaponry that he possesses. If you

1374
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 11: hit like look at how how him and Derek Lewis went,

1375
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 11: Like Derek Luis was hitting him with bombs and he

1376
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 11: was able to stay in the fight, and then all

1377
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 11: it took was like one big elbow to drop him

1378
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 11: and that's it. Lights out. That's the way the fights

1379
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 11: go at heavyweights. So I think Tyit Bass has a

1380
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 11: much better chance just strictly because of weight class.

1381
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: I think the Diaz Chimayah fight is getting more interesting

1382
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: for me because you know, obviously you see Chimaya and

1383
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 3: his ground and pound, his wrestling skills and all that stuff.

1384
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 3: There were times where he stopped taking down Gilbert Burns,

1385
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 3: and I wonder because Nathiez and his ability to submit guys,

1386
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 3: I wonder what the approach is gonna be for Tremaiah.

1387
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 3: Does he stand up And if he does stand up

1388
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 3: with Nate Diez, do you think he could stand up

1389
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: for twenty five minutes and and keep that pace, you know,

1390
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 3: consistent throughout throughout every round.

1391
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 6: If he needs to.

1392
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 3: Maybe he gets him out of it early. Obviously that's

1393
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 3: a possibility, but what do you think about that.

1394
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 11: Eric, Well, that's got to be his path, I would

1395
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 11: think is to try to get him out there, you know,

1396
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 11: out of there early. The longer you go on with Diaz,

1397
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 11: and we saw this in the Leon Edwards fight, the

1398
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 11: more of a chance you give him to get back

1399
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 11: into the fight. And I mean even the Connor fight.

1400
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 11: Connor was in the first in the first DS fight,

1401
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 11: was throwing bombs and hitting him. But Diaz isn't the

1402
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 11: type of guy. I mean, we saw that Josh Thompson

1403
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 11: headcake way back when, but he's not the top type

1404
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 11: of guy that goes down from these big shots and

1405
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 11: stays down. So when Connor was hitting him with the bombs,

1406
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 11: you saw that, you know, little by little, the power

1407
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 11: started to wane, and that's when Diaz is able to

1408
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 11: just take fights over. I think Smaiava is going to

1409
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 11: put his foot on the gas early on in this

1410
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 11: fight and try to get Nate out by any means necessary,

1411
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 11: because I think the longer the fight goes on. Yeah,

1412
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 11: like you mentioned, Kenny, I think that that plays into

1413
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 11: Diaz's hand.

1414
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 5: So we got this Canadian flavor on this Parish show

1415
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 5: a little bit, right, Charles Jordaane John macdessy. I mean,

1416
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 5: how does your coverage change for athletes that are of

1417
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 5: Canadian to say, versus how you cover the pay per

1418
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 5: views in the big shows?

1419
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I always want to shine a spotlight on

1420
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 11: the Canadian athletes. You know, we had Alex Morgan unfortunately

1421
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 11: fall short yesterday and Contender series. But Charles Jordan, I

1422
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 11: think has become a real kind of full hero in

1423
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 11: terms of how he fights, you know, the way that

1424
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 11: he presents himself in the cage.

1425
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 7: There has not been a boring Charles Jordan fight.

1426
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 11: I mean the cool about fight maybe you could say

1427
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 11: what wasn't as exciting as the other ones.

1428
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 7: But a fight against Nathaniel Would, I think is an

1429
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 7: interesting one. You know.

1430
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 11: It's funny with Charles Rodan. He's told me in the

1431
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 11: past that his favorite thing about an opponent is one

1432
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 11: that keeps him up at night, that scares him. And

1433
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 11: he says, Shane Burgos was that guy. And he goes,

1434
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 11: now that I've been in there with Shane Burgos, I

1435
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 11: don't know how many more guys there are in the

1436
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 11: division that are going to give me those kind of feelings.

1437
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 11: He actually named three. I think it was Max Holloway

1438
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 11: was one of them, Barbozo was one of them. I

1439
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 11: can't remember who the third was, but he was saying

1440
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 11: that he's not really that scared anymore. So now he's

1441
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 11: channeled his fear of opponents, his fear of not performing.

1442
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 11: He's made that his fear instead of a particular opponent.

1443
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 11: I aske him about Nathaniel Wegg. Are you scared of Nathanda?

1444
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 7: Who he goes?

1445
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 11: I just saw this guy in the lobby. He's tiny,

1446
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 11: and I mean he's got small arms and I don't

1447
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 11: know what like he's like. I'm not scared of him

1448
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 11: at all. And he has to kind of change his

1449
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 11: approach because he likes being scared of opponents. He's a

1450
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 11: really interesting guy, a very cerebral guy. I always love

1451
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 11: covering Charles because he gives me great interviews. He's a

1452
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 11: very thoughtful individual. I haven't had a chance to interview

1453
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 11: Macdeski just yet, but yeah, I often try to shine

1454
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 11: a light on the Canadians. And next weekend at two

1455
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 11: seventy nine, we got Calgary's own Hakim Dawadoo and Chad

1456
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 11: and Helliger they trained together, so nice to have both

1457
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 11: of those gentlemen on the card.

1458
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 5: Jordaane, I share a lot of your sentiments. I've had

1459
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 5: a chance to call I think his last two or

1460
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 5: three fights, and we've sat down with him both times.

1461
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 5: We don't always get back to backfighter meetings with these guys,

1462
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 5: and so he shared a lot of those same feelings

1463
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 5: with us. And yeah, I just think he's an interesting guy,

1464
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 5: both as a fighter and just as a thoughtful man.

1465
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 5: And you know, this scared schedule is breakneck. I mean

1466
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 5: this is five fights inside a calendar year for him,

1467
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 5: and he would have it no other way. So very

1468
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 5: interesting stuff, all right, my man, Aaron Bronstetter. You can

1469
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 5: find him on social media at Aaron Bronstet or appreciate

1470
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 5: you carving out a few minutes for us and holding

1471
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 5: out hope we will see you on the road in

1472
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 5: the not too distant future, but you will not be

1473
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 5: in Vegas or are you coming?

1474
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 11: No, I'll be in Vegas. I'll have to see you

1475
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 11: there next week. Maybe we can we can get in

1476
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 11: some top golf or something.

1477
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 7: And I know, I know you're you're very available to week.

1478
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 7: You don't have much going on.

1479
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 5: Hey, Top Golf, I'm in, you know, maybe we'll bring

1480
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 5: Daniel Cormier and we'll film the whole thing and we'll

1481
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 5: see how it all goes.

1482
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 6: I've been proud.

1483
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 11: Oh I will fare terribly because I don't play golf,

1484
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 11: but I enjoy going to Top Golf. So last time

1485
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 11: I was there, Jamie Foxx was golfing next to me.

1486
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 7: That was a good time.

1487
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 5: Oh wow. Hey, so Brian Petree like called you out

1488
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 5: publicly to go on remember the show for you guys

1489
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 5: to go head to head on Balao Muhammad's game show.

1490
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 5: You're both exceedingly capable in that world. You both would

1491
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 5: dust meet to pieces on that show. Whatever happened with that.

1492
01:07:58,920 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1493
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 11: I never got a call from Balala from your brother.

1494
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 11: I mean, that's what I'm not anybody.

1495
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know if like Bronsteader had you know,

1496
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 5: his sight set on like UFC fighter. All right, so

1497
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 5: now all right, now the foundation.

1498
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 11: Has I want to remember the show. I smoked those

1499
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 11: two guys on the show, and they never called me again.

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01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 11: Your brother and Ballah never I talked to your brother

1501
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 11: and Balla all the time, and they never extend the entertated.

1502
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 11: They must think I'm a busy guy. I've got I

1503
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 11: got buy, I gotta know where to be. I mean,

1504
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 11: I'm in my basement right now. I do remember the show.

1505
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 5: Oh my twin brother is a huge fan of yours.

1506
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 7: But no, maybe he's maybe he's intimidated by me. But that,

1507
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 7: you know, probably tell Jason not to worry about it.

1508
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 5: I'm intimidating by you, certainly in that setting. Like some

1509
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 5: people said, oh, and versus Bronzetter, it's like, just because

1510
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 5: I can pronounce names doesn't mean that I would go

1511
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 5: head to head with this guy in mma trivia. And

1512
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 5: let's also say, for the record, Aaron Bronstetter was the

1513
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 5: one who without a qu card said israel oata Sonia's

1514
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 5: full name with the three or four or five different

1515
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 5: middle names, without so much as a flub on camera.

1516
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 5: And I give you credit for that. And people have said,

1517
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 5: oh that I need to try that. No, I think

1518
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 5: we're good.

1519
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 7: You mean Israel mabolog temy Tyo, Donyo. That's right.

1520
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 5: And he did it even better with is he standing

1521
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 5: next to him.

1522
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 7: So no, this was it was better this time than

1523
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 7: I missed one of them. I missed one of the names.

1524
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 6: Oh did you all right?

1525
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 7: So I want do that again?

1526
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 5: All right, Well, we hope to see you on Remember

1527
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 5: the Show one of the upcoming Thursdays, maybe even as

1528
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 5: soon as tomorrow. But gracious of you to spend some

1529
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 5: time with us. And uh, I will see you in

1530
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 5: Vegas for two seventy nine.

1531
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 6: My brother.

1532
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 7: You know what, I'm also looking forward to seeing me

1533
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 7: and Remember of the show.

1534
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 5: He'll tell Jason, I would like me anytime message sent.

1535
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 7: All right, I'll see in Vegas next week.

1536
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 5: Buddy car tsn mm A reporter Aaron Brown setter with

1537
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 5: us here on the Anak and Florian podcast, And that

1538
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 5: means we have one thing left to do. It is

1539
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 5: the Marrow seconds And assuredly Cody was going to talk

1540
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 5: to us about Jake Paul and Anderson Silva. I mean,

1541
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 5: can I get my hopes up? Can I I get

1542
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 5: my hopes up that Anderson Silva and Jake Paul are

1543
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 5: actually gonna gonna fight because you know it might be at.

1544
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 12: I was assuredly not going to bring that up, but yeah,

1545
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 12: here we are.

1546
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 5: How about how about DJ though Ken Flow? I mean,

1547
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 5: I I failed to mention Demetrius Johnson off the top

1548
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 5: of the show, but uh, yeah.

1549
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 3: Dude, it's amazing again, you know, to see what he's

1550
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 3: doing at this stage of his career. You know, dealt

1551
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 3: with some adversity early in that fight, found a way

1552
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: to kind of come back, uh, and then just put

1553
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 3: on a masterclass of how to adapt and how to

1554
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 3: approach Uh, this particular kind of fighter.

1555
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 6: In Marius, and I was just I was blown away

1556
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 6: his level of skill.

1557
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 3: This is the this is the benefit of having so

1558
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 3: many damn different tools and being an intelligent fighters, you

1559
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 3: have many more ways to win. Demitrius Johnson is just phenomenal, dude.

1560
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 3: Still at this age, he continues to get better, and

1561
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 3: I just love seeing it.

1562
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 6: Man.

1563
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 3: And you look at the size of his opponent. He

1564
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 3: looked twice as big. And that's always been the guy.

1565
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 3: The guy who can move well and the guy who

1566
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 3: is longer, taller, ranger. Those are the guys that can

1567
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 3: give Dimitrius Johnson trouble.

1568
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 6: Not anymore.

1569
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: Demetrius knew exactly what he needed to do to close

1570
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 3: the distance. He's learning, He's still getting better. What a

1571
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 3: martial artist, dud, What a fighter, What a performance.

1572
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 5: He has so many belts right when they used to

1573
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 5: hand out belts for every time you defended the title,

1574
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 5: which I think they should do. Although I like the

1575
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 5: ruby touch. That's a nice touch, Cody. Our time is short.

1576
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 5: What do you have my brother?

1577
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 12: Well, did you see what he said about those belts

1578
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 12: on a recent interview that so he brought them for

1579
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 12: that ESPN shoot where he did like all them laid out,

1580
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 12: and then the UFC was like yeah, like you know,

1581
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 12: they were too heavy for him to take on the plane,

1582
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 12: so like, yeah, we'll just ship into Vegas and ship

1583
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 12: them back to you.

1584
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 6: Never ship them back to him.

1585
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 12: No, So they're holding DJ's belts hostage in some warehouse

1586
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 12: so no, yeah.

1587
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 6: What but yeah, I mean that's not cool.

1588
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 5: Daniel Cormier has eight UFC title belts at home, so

1589
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 5: maybe the UFC will knock on his door too.

1590
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 12: Well him out too to who was he trying to

1591
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 12: prove wrong on social media? He like laid them all

1592
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 12: out and he's like, oh, here you go. I was like, well,

1593
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 12: but interesting thing about DJ's kind of like like, you know,

1594
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 12: we don't talk about other promotions or anything like that.

1595
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 12: But his last fight was against Rod Tang one of

1596
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 12: the best muy Thai fighters in all of the world,

1597
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 12: and he beat him in a mixed rules fight and

1598
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 12: on that one Amazon Prime card. Something that I did

1599
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 12: want to bring up, not the MMA, but the moy

1600
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 12: Thai and four ounce gloves. I mean, sick, that's amazing,

1601
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 12: Like that is some of the funnest shit to watch

1602
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 12: that I've ever seen in combat sports. So if you

1603
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 12: didn't see the pumpayak Ko, I thought that was incredible.

1604
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,839
Speaker 12: And then Nongo had a leg kick Ko. His opponent

1605
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 12: literally couldn't get up, so it's moy Thai. They have

1606
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 12: a ten second count. He was literally just sitting there

1607
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 12: with his hands up like I can't move my leg.

1608
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 12: So you want to see some damage, you go see

1609
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 12: those highlights.

1610
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 5: It was a great show.

1611
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 12: Kind of jumping around here. Stricklandver's cannoneers off. Strickland suffered

1612
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 12: a finger injury and infected, so that fight they're scrapping it.

1613
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 12: I thought it was a little quick for Strickland to

1614
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 12: be coming back anyway off of a devastating Ko, you know,

1615
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 12: to be fighting what two and a half months later, uh,

1616
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 12: I mean, even for a tough guy like him, I

1617
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 12: thought that was a little much. But he's been training

1618
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 12: with Chamaia van till so I doubt that they have

1619
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 12: any uh soft days over there.

1620
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1621
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 5: I wonder if they'll rebook cannon Ear in the main

1622
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 5: event or if they'll just scrap it all together. I

1623
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 5: guess we'll find out.

1624
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 12: I mean, who would he fight.

1625
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 5: I'm not a fucking matchmaker. I'm a commentator on my

1626
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 5: notes in front of me. But you know, Jack Romanson,

1627
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 5: they already.

1628
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 12: Singing and dancing Jack er Manson. Alex Paeda posted on

1629
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 12: social media that he's two hundred and twenty six pounds

1630
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 12: at nine and a half percent body fat nine point

1631
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 12: eight percent. Sorry, Yeah, that's insane. He's seventy three days

1632
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 12: out from a title fight. Kenny, how big did you

1633
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 12: ever get out? Away from your weight?

1634
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 3: So the biggest was I was one eighty seven and

1635
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 3: I had to cut down one hundred and forty five pounds.

1636
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 5: Interesting, that's that's good for yo.

1637
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 12: Liberally, I just heard your livery.

1638
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 3: Except I'm not body fat at one and eighty seven. Yeah,

1639
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, dude, what did in that? Wasn't

1640
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 3: there a picture of Pereira standing next to someone else?

1641
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 3: And he like made that two oh five, look small?

1642
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 6: Who was he standing next to again?

1643
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1644
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 6: You remember?

1645
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 12: Anyways I could find it, but yeah he did, and

1646
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 12: then people are shopping him to be you know, three

1647
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 12: times as size of me.

1648
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 6: You know he's massive. Yeah.

1649
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 12: Ben Askron posted that he would only come back for

1650
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 12: a rematch against Jorge Mazatal. Is there any interest from

1651
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 12: you guys from that? Would you guys watch that fight?

1652
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 5: Yes? To me, that's the most interesting fight for Joorge.

1653
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 5: I mean unless it's Kobe, but like that fights that

1654
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 5: that would interest me a lot. Yes, yeah, because I

1655
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 5: was so excited to see that fight. And obviously it

1656
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 5: was a five second fight.

1657
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 12: Oh you almost missed it, you said on the other show,

1658
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 12: so you almost missed the entire fight. So as we

1659
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 12: look ahead here, as John said, football season's kicking off here,

1660
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 12: I know everyone's ready to fade my against the spread

1661
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 12: picks at the end of the show.

1662
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, DK sports page futures.

1663
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 12: Be catching fades. If I go and visit John, I

1664
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 12: guess NFL football futures for the championship bills plus five

1665
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 12: fifty bucks plus seven hundred packers plus one thousand Chiefs

1666
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 12: plus one thousand any interest, any any wet in your

1667
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 12: beak on those.

1668
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I played Buffalo. I got them as

1669
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 5: high as plus six twenty. I have four tickets on Buffalo.

1670
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 5: But I'm looking at more of the conference futures than

1671
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 5: actually to win the super Bowl. I do like the

1672
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 5: Rams five to one to get back to the super Bowl.

1673
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 5: So that's just a ticket on the Rams to win

1674
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 5: the NFC, and I have the Raiders at twenty three

1675
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 5: to one to win the AFC. It's come down to

1676
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 5: sixteen to one. So I know a lot of people

1677
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 5: like the Chiefs, and no, there's no homersm. I don't

1678
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 5: like the Raiders, nor root for them. I don't root

1679
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 5: for Josh McDaniels per se. That depth chart's absurd though

1680
01:15:58,640 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 5: I like the team. I like the roster.

1681
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 12: You know, yeah, I'm rooting for Bruce to get us

1682
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 12: on field seats for the December Raiders.

1683
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, working on so yeah, we gota.

1684
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 12: We gotta keep reminding him of that. But speaking of Patriots,

1685
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 12: so the over eight and a half minus one twenty five,

1686
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 12: I'm not a big fan of that. I'm gonna be

1687
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 12: completely honest. I think the Patriots could go under this year.

1688
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 12: So under is plus one oh five what do you think?

1689
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 6: What do you think?

1690
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 12: Eight and a half?

1691
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they go eight to nine or nine

1692
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 5: and eight. I think they'll be a middling outfit. You know,

1693
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 5: but I'm an optimistic sports fan. You and my twin bro,

1694
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 5: these guys are so fucking pessimistic.

1695
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 12: You know.

1696
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick is still on the sidelines.

1697
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 6: Let's go.

1698
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 12: And I've been out on the Red Sox since like

1699
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 12: May so yeah, but good so. Oh another thing I

1700
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 12: did see it was funny. Well, so we dropped our

1701
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 12: show the last time we dropped it, and it was

1702
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 12: a little late, and I was like, ah, crap, like let.

1703
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 5: Me drop it.

1704
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 12: And I thought that we had like podcast cucked Bisping's

1705
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 12: podcast because usually theirs goes out at like midnight on

1706
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 12: a Tuesday or whatever. So I was like, I put

1707
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 12: it out and then someone was I tweeted. I was

1708
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 12: like a podcast from which other pods are not, or

1709
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 12: you know something play on words with what you had

1710
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 12: said in a month, you know, fresh enough to remember it.

1711
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 12: And Mike Harrington from Bisping's podcast was like, oh, like

1712
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 12: they're trying to go out us blah blah blah, like

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Speaker 12: Cody fight me. I was like Harrington. I was like,

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Speaker 12: if you can come down to one fifty five, like,

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Speaker 12: two hundred. I'm like, bro, I haven't been above one

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Speaker 12: seventy in like three years, so there's no way. So

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Speaker 12: if you want to, if you want a Harrington, you

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