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Speaker 2: This is Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's Friday. It's Morning Combat. It's back the

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Speaker 1: the Beige One. There's my co host, Luke Thomas. Friday,

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Speaker 1: March twenty fifth, twenty twenty two. Luke, you're under the

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Speaker 2: Takedowns average per fifteen minutes. And by the way, Chris

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it definitely seems to be one of those

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Speaker 2: Two things have kind of stood out with Curtis Blades

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Speaker 2: Here's the one knock on that take down accuracy not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's well said. You do have to

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. That's why this fight

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Speaker 2: is important. It will tell us the answer to that.

430
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: What I do think is, let's assume for a second

431
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: he's taking into this fight what we already know for

432
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 2: him to have, maybe not necessarily a whole lot new right,

433
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: here's another number I want to give you for Curtis Blades.

434
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: Curtis Blades only absorbs one point sixty five strikes per minute.

435
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 2: Why do I think that really attacking the level change?

436
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 2: If it leads to a takedown or attacking the you

437
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 2: know someone's on a single and he's moving you to

438
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 2: off balance, why do I like a lot of Yes,

439
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: you have to wrestle through that first, but if you

440
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: can find a safe or reasonably safe attacking position, you

441
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: have to go for it. It's not that I think

442
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: Curtis Blades is not tough. I think he's very tough.

443
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 2: But what I also think is he can be over

444
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: the course of a fight while he is relentless with

445
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Speaker 2: the takedown and he is very good at not taking damage.

446
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: If you can score damage on him. I think you

447
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 2: saw this in the Volkov fight too, it can deter

448
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: him for long periods of time from going relatively speaking,

449
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: from going back to that takedown. He can be a

450
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: little bit deterred by it, and he can second guess himself,

451
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: and I think that's going to be the priority. If

452
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: it's just Curtis Blades as we understand him against Chris

453
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: Dawcas as we understand him early on, that's a fight

454
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Speaker 2: Curtis Blades again, in theory, should not lose. But if

455
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: you can get him hurt a little bit, and now

456
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Speaker 2: he has to respect any kind of entry, any kind

457
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Speaker 2: of level change any kind of wrapping up scenario. Now

458
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: he begins, he'll do it a little bit less, and

459
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: he might do it a little bit more cautiously, meaning

460
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Speaker 2: to say that it's not set up quite as well,

461
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Speaker 2: or he doesn't get as deep every time. That I

462
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 2: think is a very winnable fight for Chris Dawcas. I

463
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 2: don't to your point, can he do that? I don't know.

464
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Speaker 2: We're going to have to see, but I think that

465
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Speaker 2: is what's really going to be necessary, because early on

466
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Speaker 2: before he's been deterred or affected, he is, and even

467
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 2: through the middle parts of a round too, he is.

468
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: He on the middle parts of a three round find anyway,

469
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 2: he's relentless, he is all over it. But he can

470
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Speaker 2: be deterred by some of the better guys who can

471
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Speaker 2: place good damage on him. It does affect him.

472
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Speaker 1: I think he's got to hope that in Daucas that

473
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Speaker 1: he can come out and his his hand game is

474
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Speaker 1: at another level than Blades's and and that's gonna have

475
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Speaker 1: to be a big part of this right How there

476
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Speaker 1: how each other's weaknesses matches up with the strengths of

477
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Speaker 1: the other one. And I think in theory it's always like, well,

478
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: how do you lure somebody into a standing fight or

479
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 1: maybe even a brawl in which you know you can

480
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Speaker 1: again argue in this matchup that Daucas will have those

481
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: same advantages. It's hurting him, of course, But Luke, do

482
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Speaker 1: you think Blades getting hurt early with punches leads it

483
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Speaker 1: leads to a fight or flight ending meaning stand in

484
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Speaker 1: and fight off the threat, or go even more desperate

485
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Speaker 1: in terms of takedown only approach to this.

486
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Speaker 2: That will that will depend on Chris Daucas. Right. Let's

487
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: say he can meaningfully stop a couple of takedowns. He

488
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Speaker 2: gets one, but he gets up right so that one

489
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Speaker 2: of them counts, and he's he's in there and he's

490
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Speaker 2: been he's competitive with it. Then he has to decide,

491
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Speaker 2: how do I want to pursue this, because just deterring

492
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Speaker 2: Curtis Blades is not gonna win you the fight because

493
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Speaker 2: it's not going to stop him. It will deter him

494
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 2: a little bit, but it won't alter prevent him from trying.

495
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: And if he's still got enough of a you know,

496
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Speaker 2: a good gas take and everything else, which also could

497
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Speaker 2: be someone a question here depending on how much he

498
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: has to work. But you get the idea that's not

499
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: gonna win the fight by itself. There has to be

500
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: another offensive component behind it. And that's where I think

501
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: he has to pressure Blades into making mistakes when he can.

502
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: Know how did Derek Lewis find that uppercuts? Because he

503
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: timed it. He timed it. He got timed because he

504
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: was shooting from way outside and he didn't set it

505
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: up properly. That is a thing that quite literally we

506
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: have seen works. It's hard to do and only the

507
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: better ones can really do it, but it does have

508
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 2: an effect. It's it's it's it's noteworthy. It's gonna be

509
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: up to him to do that now. Of course, of

510
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 2: course there should be noted. Derek Lewis did that on

511
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: the back foot a little bit not the same kind

512
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Speaker 2: of thing. I don't think Chris Dawcas is necessarily going

513
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Speaker 2: to be Like I would argue, Derek Lewis is probably

514
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot better of a counter puncher than

515
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 2: Chris dawcas is. He's a little bit more of a

516
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: trap setter kind of sneaking in that way. Chris Dawcas

517
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: is more of a come forward kind of heavyweight, and

518
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: so I think that's what he's gonna eventually have to

519
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: do the just think about like we under what can conditions?

520
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: Does Chris dawkas win? He has to bring that into

521
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 2: this fight. But I don't think you can do that

522
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: unless you have meaningfully put Curtis Blades on the mental

523
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: and physical backflip. We got to see him do that.

524
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: And then within the within his ground defense Dacas. It's

525
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: not just preventing the takedown, it's being able to, you know,

526
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: to your best effort, cancel out the ground and pound

527
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: attempts of of Blades and and make it a no

528
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: sum you know, situation, no win situation on these takedowns.

529
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a big part of it. As will

530
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: look that when you're making a jump like this, if

531
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Speaker 1: you're daucas, you're gonna have to potentially show the five

532
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: round cardio. You're gonna have to be able to know.

533
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: You have to show a lot. And that's why the

534
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: stakes are this high. Luke, the heavyweight Iceberg is clearly

535
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: broken into two in the past two months, and the

536
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: elite one is going that way and asking all the

537
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: time to a vasser on there and a guy like

538
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: Blades tends to jump back and forth off in between

539
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: the two. But if Chris Dawkas wants to join those

540
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: guys on that one. You gotta win this fight, and

541
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: this would be a monster win in his overall arc. Luke,

542
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: does he do it? What does this look like? Who wins?

543
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: And why?

544
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Curtis Blades again, I just feel like

545
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: I like Christaalkas's game. But that's a tough to fight

546
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: stretch that Derek Lewis back to back with Curtis Blades,

547
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: that's what that. You're asking a lot from a heavyweight

548
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: to do that. And so while I recognize that Curtis

549
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: Blades himself, you know, as he rebounded it when he

550
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: fought Rosenstrike, but you know, he is he he can

551
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 2: be beaten. He is not some unstoppable force in all ways,

552
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: but I think he's much more battle tested. He's beaten

553
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: much better guys than Chris Dawcas has. He's been around

554
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: a lot longer. He should win this kind. In fact,

555
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: it'd be you know, it'd be somewhat surprising. Obviously the

556
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: odds are what they are, but it'd be a little

557
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: bit surprising if Daucas won and Blades lost. This is

558
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: a fight Blades absolutely should win. So we'll see what happens.

559
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: But I like Curtis here, you're Dacas.

560
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: You gotta hope that things happen in threes and these

561
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: young heavyweights that are riding this momentum that he's going

562
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: to be a part of that. You nailed it perfectly.

563
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: Isla's capable of giving up this fight and losing it.

564
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: You're damn righty is unfortunately, But I don't think Doucas

565
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: is capable enough to make that happen. Will he eventually?

566
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: He's it's still young in the process, and there's a

567
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: lot from Chris daucas that I have loved, you know,

568
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: looke offensively, no doubt. I tend to believe there's a

569
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: fighter in there coming out of Philly. His brother's a

570
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: UFC fighter, like I tend to believe that intangible wise,

571
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: there's you know, he's got a ceiling to show us

572
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: a lot. It just may be wrong matchup at wrong time.

573
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: Now we've both been wrong on some on some picks lately,

574
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: and that's that's the game right there. I mean, you know,

575
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: if you're if you if you get it right all

576
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: the time, you're probably living in Vegas. But give me

577
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: Curtis blades on the ground, man, give me a fourth

578
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: round stoppage, Luke, He's gonna get He's gonna tan gas

579
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: on that tank. He's gonna pull the gas. He's gonna

580
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: siphon it out. He might steal the catalytic converter to Luke.

581
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: I think he might do the full job on him.

582
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: He might change the alternator. Yeah, I'm with you.

583
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: I we're on the change your oil, Yeah, change it.

584
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: But I will say this, if Chris Dawkas wins this fight, man,

585
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: and like when's a clean like the judges didn't do

586
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: some screw job or the ref didn't suck it up

587
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: or whatever, that's a big, big win for Chris Dawkas.

588
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: So a huge opportunity in front of him for sure.

589
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: Hey, this card's good, man. We said that on Wednesday.

590
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: I gotta say that again, Luke Coleman Event Women's flyweights

591
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: Joanne wood Nay Calder versus Alexa Grosso, who we talked

592
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, seems to have a nice home here in

593
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: the new division. She's still got to prove a little

594
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: bit more, but it's a short ladder to the top

595
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: for Valentina Chefchenko awaiting any viable contender Grosso with the

596
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: two straight wins over g Young Kim and then Macy

597
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: Barber being the big one there. She's won three of

598
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: her last four, that extensive to five of seven. She's

599
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: the fighter, certainly rising against what has become the old

600
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: battle axe here Luke and Joanne Wood. The odds, though,

601
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: have Grosso minus two fifty five under DraftKings is the

602
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: favorite plus two o five for Joanne Wood. Does this

603
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: go any differently than three competitive rounds? But thirty twenty

604
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: seven Grosso thanks to the boxing.

605
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, like, okay, My first thought is

606
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: and my last my last thought is this is a fight.

607
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. You may have said the odds. Did you

608
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: read the odds?

609
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: Yes?

610
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,239
Speaker 2: On this one? One more time for me if you could?

611
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: Hell yeah plus plus two oh five Joanne Wood minus

612
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: two fifty five Alexa Grosso.

613
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's about right. I actually think that's

614
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: much much more accurate. Here's the thing for me on

615
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: these two, they're pretty similar in some certain dimensions. There's

616
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: one height one inch difference in height with with with

617
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: Wood being a little bit like a little bit taller.

618
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: Grasso has a one inch reach advantage. But in that

619
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: sense they're basically the same height, same reach, so that's okay,

620
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: but they're both orthodox fighters. Here's what stands out to

621
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: me in all of this. Joanne Wood lands more at

622
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: six point seventy one strikes per minute, which is very high.

623
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: She takes a lot at nearly four and a half,

624
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: actually higher than four and a half Alexa Grasso deals

625
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: at almost five strikes per minute, which is a lot,

626
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: and only absorbs three point six one, so she's a

627
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: little bit more efficient with that. But the biggest, biggest,

628
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: biggest difference to me that stands out is one joint.

629
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: Would I keep my brain keeps saying calder would she

630
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 2: might go for the takedown a little bit more. She

631
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: does mix that in. She has one point five to

632
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: seven per fifteen minutes, Grasso just point to eight. So

633
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: that could be something that shows up, especially if Grasso

634
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: is pumping that jab and it's landing and it's working

635
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: and Wood can't find a way to counteract it. Would

636
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: a little bit more we should be noted a little

637
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 2: more of kickbox three and then Grasso a little bit

638
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: more pure boxing. Again, that's all relatively speaking, But the

639
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: other part that stands out to MEBC and this is

640
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: the one I think will really matter in the end.

641
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: Grasso or excuse me, would striking defense fifty two percent?

642
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: It's about normal something like that. Grasso sixty four percent, dude,

643
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: that is very high. That's actually, like I rarely do

644
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: I see someone have defense that high. I think she's

645
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: gonna be. I don't know how active she's gonna be

646
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: relative to what Wood does, because she can be active herself.

647
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: But I think over time that a bit of a

648
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: pace might get put on her that could deter her,

649
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: and that if Wood can't find those counters, right, if

650
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: that sixty four percent holds up, that's going to deny her.

651
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: And I think that will then push her to the takedown.

652
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: And if she can't get the takedown, that's when the

653
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: wheels might might start coming off the bus a little bit.

654
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, it's not only that Calderwoods or sorry,

655
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: Wood is thirty four and has lost three or four.

656
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: But I haven't seen a lot of life from her.

657
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: Luke next level potential, you know, during some of these runs,

658
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: even when she's fought the you know, the more elite

659
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: foes available to her. If she does get the takedowns,

660
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: I just don't see her being offensive enough to make

661
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: that a difference, Luke, I think this fight will be

662
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: on the feet longer than it'll be on the ground.

663
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: And when it's on the feet, Rosso's footwork in combinations.

664
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: She knows what she's doing there, Luke, It's gonna take

665
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: a different type of fighter to stop her momentum at

666
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: this moment. So give me Grosso by decision that that's

667
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: my lead pipe lock, rock solid, rock hard with emotion,

668
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: like Jake Hagar pick of the week, Luke, three rounds

669
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: your phone right there. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to establish that, Luke.

670
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: There's so many other fights to care about, But storyline wise,

671
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: this one looks like it's getting bumped up pretty high.

672
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: Forty one year old Matt Brown coming home here to

673
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: Ohio and he'll be taking on Brian Barberina, certainly, Luke

674
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: in a fight that screams, you know, fun and sloppy

675
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: action and all that good stuff. But dude, Matt Brown

676
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: forty one, as I'm just mentioned, he may not be

677
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: getting enough of this sort of Jim Miller victory tour

678
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: that he's going on, the sort of like you know,

679
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: guy who had his day. But look at the longevity,

680
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: look at the toughness, look at the track record, and

681
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: now you've got Matt Brown saying in interviews this week,

682
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: I'd like to sign a five fight deal after this

683
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: one with the UFC and fight until I'm forty six

684
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: and try to become the oldest fighter in the history

685
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: to both win and and appear. Luke, this a little

686
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: bit improbable this second half turned for Matt Brown. Not

687
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: that it's been super like. It's not that this is

688
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's impressive. It's not crazy impressive, right, but

689
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: it's impressive to extend your career longer than we think

690
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: you would or should or could. But don't you remember

691
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: there were times where you're like, yeah, he should probably

692
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: go away now, Like Action Star bending through the wars,

693
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: he just never stopped. I don't even want to say evolving, Luke.

694
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: Are you seeing a Matt Brown that's evolved or just

695
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: a guy that hasn't hasn't let himself fall off yet

696
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: because he's so damn tough.

697
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: No, I think you misdiagnose it here a little bit. Actually, yeah,

698
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: tell me. Is it is true that as you get older,

699
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: improvement becomes more and more difficult, in part because you

700
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: already know a lot and in part because your body

701
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: won't let you and there's just a lot of difficulties

702
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: that you know, it's if you get to if you're

703
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 2: a peak bodybuilder, just imagine this. You know, it's easy

704
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: to build the first twenty pounds of muscle, but like

705
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: whatever your you know, Olympia peak is to get the

706
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: last few pounds of that muscle, it takes a year,

707
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: in years and years to get the very end. It's

708
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: much harder to develop gains when you're at your genetic

709
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: peak and potential than otherwise than if you're at the

710
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: beginning of it. Right, That's why beginners can put on

711
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: muscle like that. The point I'm trying to make here

712
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 2: about Matt Brown though, and Matt Brown's a little bit different.

713
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: People talk about his toughness and his cowboy grittiness and

714
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: things like that, and they should because they all stand

715
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 2: out to you. He gets he's did you ever watch

716
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: his season of The Enforcer Matt or The Adultsment Fighter?

717
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: Matt Brown was like an enforcer on that season where

718
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: they wanted Matt Brown to fight all the people in

719
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: the house that they hated because there's like, oh, you

720
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: fight Matt Brown. He's gonna fuck you up, man. Like.

721
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: They didn't necessarily present him to be like the best fighter,

722
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: but they kind of presented him as the one, like

723
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: the boogeyman like you. You know, if you're a reject

724
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: on the show, you don't want to fight Matt Brown,

725
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: Matt Brown will really hurt you. And that's been the

726
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: reputation that followed. But I would humbly submit to everyone

727
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: if you really watch the tape on Matt Brown through

728
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: the course of his career, here's what stands out to

729
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: me more than most fighters. He is a dedicated student

730
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: of the game. He has remained extremely humble about his

731
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: journey and has constantly invested in learning, learning, learning, learning.

732
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: He is a wealth of knowledge if you talk to him.

733
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: By the way, that's true as it relates to his

734
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 2: You know, I should bring it up. But Louis Simmons,

735
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: who is an icon in the strength sports world. He

736
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: was the guy from this famous gym that's out in Ohio.

737
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: He invented this thing called a reverse hyper I have

738
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: one Matt Brown studied under him. If you talk to

739
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: Matt Brown about the conjugate periitization methods and all that

740
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, which you know Louis Simmons had a

741
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: big hand in creating you know, you'll learn that like

742
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: this dude is invested in the academics of it. Quite frankly,

743
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: he is. He is always trying to refine technique and

744
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: what are all the dimensions of my game that I

745
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: can get better? And he does it in ways and

746
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: a lot of fighters don't. That's why I think he's

747
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: still out here doing that. On top of the fact

748
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: that he is a savage and he wants to compete

749
00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: in stove.

750
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a savage and and I didn't mean to,

751
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, under to underscore, no to overscore, middle, medium score, medium,

752
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: nog the the the argument here of how he's done this,

753
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: I just don't. I mean, you know, it's not like

754
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: he was a striker, and then I just meant it

755
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: was not like he to save face, he became a

756
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: wrestler just to just to linger, right right, Obviously, he's

757
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: he's it's there's so many veteran tools and tricks, and

758
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: he's not. He hasn't stopped learning. But you know, you

759
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: do remember when he got head kick Ko by Cowboy

760
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: Seroni in twenty sixteen. That was five losses in six

761
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: fights at the elite and you know, sub elite level,

762
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: still fighting one tough guy after another. It looked over

763
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: at that point and he's three and two cents. And

764
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: that knockout of Diego Sanchez from a few years ago

765
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: is among you know, with the lead down driving elbow

766
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: forarm is among the among the nastiest. We talk about

767
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: the nastiest finishes the most like angry, like Dan Henderson

768
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: over Hector Lombard, just just nasty finishes. Luke, that was

769
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: certainly one of them. But do you think he can

770
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: pull this off? The idea of you know, I'm gonna

771
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: he's already in win some lose some mode. That's what

772
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: you're like when you're veteran gatekeeper who's in there to

773
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: test people. But you know what, you're still gonna win

774
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: some of them. Can't he pull off another five fights,

775
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: another another five years of this?

776
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: Look? Well, it's funny, you know. The Jim Miller thing

777
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: is the right is the right comparison because he also

778
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: is a huge, big time student of the game, constantly

779
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: working on stuff. There's a few guys that the UFC

780
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: will let age gracefully. Have you noticed that there's not

781
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: they don't do it for everyone, but they you know,

782
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: when they realize, Okay, Jim Miller can't beat the best

783
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: lightweights in the world right now, you know, he can't

784
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: do it. It wouldn't work. And Matt Brown can't beat

785
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: the best what is he welter weight at this point.

786
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: It can't beat the best welterweights out there. It's not

787
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: really in the cards, but fans like them. They are

788
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: competitive with other people who have you know, who are

789
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 2: under contract. And you know, Brian Barbarina is up and down,

790
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: but he's experienced. This is not his first rodeo against

791
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: those type and you know, and these are somewhat still

792
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: relevant fights in a sense about where people are coming

793
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: or going, right, because Jim Miller just fought a guy

794
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: making his UFC debut that was a huge fight, right

795
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: for his opponent. Matt Brown is in this stage where

796
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: he's still able to have these like really you know,

797
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: not super important fights, but he's able to have this

798
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: old man tour and it's because people love him. He

799
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 2: is a hometown hero here, but also because he has

800
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: kind of accepted, Okay, if I can't fight the best,

801
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get out of the game. I

802
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: still want to compete, and I want to keep getting

803
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: better in sort of smaller ways. Maybe the UFC will

804
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: let me do that. And for him, and for Jim

805
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: Miller and maybe a few other ones, they have agreed

806
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: to that it kind of works in limited circumstances. This

807
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: is one of them.

808
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: And you know that does happen in other sports. Guys

809
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: who for a season were you know, the all star

810
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: level or just short of that, but then figure out

811
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: how to get a role, you know, whether it's basketball

812
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: or whatever, and can play that role. We just don't

813
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: see that a lot in fighting. We don't see the

814
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: old age Gracey and keep getting better. What or Latsky's doing,

815
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: What even what Diego Sanchez had done his last little

816
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: run there in the UFC, What Jim Miller's doing. I mean,

817
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm very impressed with this when you really look at

818
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: what it takes to keep evolving and need to be

819
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: that student with the physical grind, with the inevitable stretches

820
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: of losing, Like you know, I talk about that stretch

821
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: where Brown lost a bunch. I don't want people to

822
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: forget and only think of him as either an action

823
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: fighter or a fun tough old guy and remember that

824
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: his actual run, Luke, when he won seven in a

825
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: row and got as high as that Robbie Lawler fight

826
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: that you know right there. He's a fucking good fighter,

827
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: and he was nasty and he was dangerous, and it

828
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: was like that run he got into a decision, went

829
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: over wonder boy in that stretch. But that was four

830
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: straight finishes Mike Swick, Jordan Mean, Mike Pyle, and Eric

831
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: Silva leading into the Lawler title eliminator defeat Luke. Don't

832
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: forget that that guy could play in this league at

833
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: that level.

834
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. I mean you've seen guys who maybe were

835
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: you know, once on one of the starting lineups in

836
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: football sometimes kind of just finish out their career in

837
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: special teams or you know, sort of role players, and

838
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: that's the way that it goes. I mean, here's the thing.

839
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: Is there a meaningful difference? And I think there is,

840
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you this, is there a

841
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: meaningful difference? To me, what Jim Miller and and Matt

842
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: Brown are doing is very similar. Arlovsky is also doing

843
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: something similar to that, But it seems like the UFC

844
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: uses Arlovsky as much more of a dedicated, like you know,

845
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: measuring opportunity for his opponents, whereas maybe Jim Miller's last

846
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: fight was like that. But I don't feel like Miller

847
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: and Brown have quite the same utility in that in

848
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: the in their respective divisions.

849
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: True, true, No, that's true. It's different circumstances, yet all

850
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: falls under the same halo. And you know what, Luke,

851
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: if you go on a run, a little mini run

852
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: with wins, they'll give you the step opportunity, step up

853
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: opportunity that you're still looking for. You know, they'll love me,

854
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: that's right with although affecting you in the other ways

855
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: of matchman. Let's not forget Clay Gweed's kind of in

856
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: that category as well, Luke, another guy never would have guessed,

857
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: never would have guessed.

858
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. And and you know, and again,

859
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: what what do all those people have in common? What

860
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: do all of them have in common? Super crafty, especially Miller,

861
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: especially Orlovski, and especially Brown. They're they're they're they're not

862
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: just veterans in the sense they've done a lot and

863
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: that entitles them to some measure of respect. Although that's

864
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: true as well, But dude, they've got a lot of

865
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: tricks up their sleeve. And that's why they're still doing

866
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: relevant mma.

867
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: Uh Draftking says Brown and Barberina both even here at

868
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: minus one ten, So it's a pick them at the

869
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: end of the day, Luke. Barberina younger, but you can

870
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: get him hurt, Luke, and he's got some mileage on him.

871
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: So I know you could be feeling that Matt Brown

872
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: win here. I know it because I heard you say

873
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: it this week.

874
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: I your audio cut out for the last sentence. What

875
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 2: did you say?

876
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: I said Matt Brown could win a knockout here, And

877
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: I know that's a pick you like, Luke.

878
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian Barbarina takes a lot of punishment. Now here's

879
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: the thing Barbarina has got. I'm gonna say he's got

880
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: pretty good cardio, you know. And Matt Brown has I'm

881
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: sure trained his ass off, but at his age. I

882
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: have noticed he and Jim Miller, you know, it's fair

883
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: to say that they're probably not the same kind of

884
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: physical force that they once were in terms of their

885
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: own overall cardiovascular push. So there might be an opportunity

886
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: for Barbarina to do something a little bit later in

887
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: this fight, if he can stay alive and keep moving

888
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: and make Matt Brown work, but you know, skill for skill,

889
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: Matt Brown is way more skilled, I think than Brian Barberina.

890
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: And uh, I gotta tell you, I like I like

891
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: his chances of winning here a lot, especially in this hometown,

892
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: which you know, we talked about this all the time,

893
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: how a lot of guys don't get to fight ever

894
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: in front of their home cities. And of course Matt

895
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: Brown's not headlining here, but when it rarely happens, we shill,

896
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: we should still call it out. Good for Matt Brown

897
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: that he gets an opportunity like this to fight in

898
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: front of his own home city.

899
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: I remember he fought Eric Silva on that last fight

900
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: of his of his you know, prime run wind Streak,

901
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: and that was in I think Cincinnati. It was a

902
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: Sunday night UFC Fight Night card and the crow went

903
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: ape shit. Look when he got that finish, it was

904
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: it was great to see, all right, Luke, we got

905
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: to speed it up here. But this might be the

906
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: best fight of the card and it comes in the

907
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: flyweight division and maybe a potential title shot at stake.

908
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: As Askar Askarov and your boy Kaikar France from from

909
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: the CKB Life, Luke, who is rising following that stoppage

910
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: of Cody Garbrandt. Luke minus four twenty five, Askarov is

911
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: your favorite plus three twenty Now, Luke, there are you?

912
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: Know you? You labeled me as a beat super fan,

913
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you're damn right. I love me

914
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: some Ascar Askarov and you know that. But I would

915
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: roll the dice on a plus three twenty KK France

916
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: every single day of this week. Luke, What's what are

917
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: we doing there? Luke?

918
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I mean, this isn't this isn't quite

919
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: like the main event. I don't think that's fair because

920
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: I think Askarov can strike a lot more competitively with

921
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: France or car France than what we've seen from what

922
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: Blades might be able to show Christalkers. I guess we'll

923
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: have to see. But this is the one that I

924
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 2: think will define the entire fight. So in this sense,

925
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: this is what binds them right. Takedown average per fifteen

926
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: minutes for Askarov two point seventy five. That is high.

927
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: He's nearly good for a takedown around and that means

928
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: he's going to be trying for a lot more than that,

929
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: since his takedown accuracy is only twenty eight percent. So

930
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: think about that for a second. He fails on seventy

931
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: two percent of his takedown attempts and still ends up

932
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: at two point seventy five takedowns per fifteen minutes. That

933
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: tells you he is on you like a dog on

934
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 2: a bone. And that doesn't mean he's going to get

935
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: every takedown, far from it, but you are going to

936
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: have to fight this fucker off constantly, constantly. Kaykr France

937
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: is a much better striker than Askarov, although I think

938
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: Askarov can strike respectably quite well, especially if you can

939
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: mix in that takedown threat right, well, that might actually

940
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: end up.

941
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: Let me just say this about Askarov, whether you look

942
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: at him as a like one punch finisher or not,

943
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: and he's not. His strikes are his jabs, his body shots.

944
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: Like he he bites down on that man, he.

945
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: Goes after me hundred percent, hundred percent. I'm just saying

946
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: to you what really makes him come alive. And you

947
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: saw this in a lot of his fights. He can

948
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: scramble well, he doesn't get tired. To your point, he

949
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: actually has some power in his strikes and when he

950
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: can strike through scrambles and he can obviously, you know

951
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: he's good at taking the back. He's good at, you know,

952
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: maintaining top position at times. He just is a workhorse

953
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: through many more dimensions of the game. K car France.

954
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying if it's strike he can't win, that's

955
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: not true. But it's gonna be a lot truer for

956
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: him that if he's not striking BC, that's gonna be

957
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: a way harder fight for him to win. And when

958
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: I say striking, I just mean at range.

959
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: That's a lot of our listeners always reach out after

960
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: we talk about ascrob and say, how come you guys

961
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: don't shout him off for being deaf? So? Is he

962
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: partially deaf? Luke completely deaf? I know that. Can you

963
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: hear me?

964
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: Hold on, BC, I can't hear you. I don't know

965
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: if that's is ascarof fully deaf like Matt Hamill deaf?

966
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: I think so? I think so yeah, yeah, BC zoom

967
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: is messed up. So let me just give you some

968
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 2: relevant information about this contest while we wait for BC

969
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: to return, Kai car France, this is kind of interesting.

970
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: Five strikes landed per minute pretty high strikes absorb three

971
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: point seventy nine that's also a little on the high

972
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: end Askarov doesn't take nearly as much damage. It doesn't

973
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: dish as much out three point three seven landed, but

974
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: just two point sixty five absorbed. So a big key

975
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: component of kai Car France is not merely going to

976
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: be avoiding scrambles and avoiding takedowns really creating separation, but

977
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: you know, finding ways to get accurate strikes off, which,

978
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: by the way, this is why he doesn't take a

979
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: lot of damage in part because he can deal a

980
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: little bit on the feet as well, but he puts

981
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: his opponents in positions where they're constantly having to i

982
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: think throw strikes in suboptimal situations, and because they're suboptimal,

983
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: they're not going to be nearly as act and he

984
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 2: might be able to have some decent defense. In fact,

985
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: to striking defense fifty six percent, which is which which

986
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: is a little above average, it's pretty good. I will

987
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: say kai Kr France is striking defense sixty five percent.

988
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: Now that is very high. So again on the feet,

989
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: if you're askaroff here, it's it's not at all unwinnable,

990
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: but that probably isn't the path of least resistance, right,

991
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: It's probably not that the grappling is going to be

992
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: the key here. Take down average, as I mentioned, two

993
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: point seventy five for Askar Askrov justz point five to

994
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: one for Kai Car France, not really a threat in

995
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: that way. Takedown accuracy is low twenty eight percent, But

996
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: when you just think about that, that means there's seventy

997
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: percent of those unaccounted for. Obviously he didn't score them,

998
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: but they were all attempts either to set up strikes,

999
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 2: cheat the distance, cut an angle, faint, fake the whole nine.

1000
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: While it wouldn't be a fake in that case, not

1001
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: a faint, but you get the idea. You get the idea.

1002
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: Takedown defense sixty four percent for askaroff because I do

1003
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: think he's a little bit susceptible and open due to

1004
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: the summ somewhat open nature of how he competes. He's

1005
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: not a shut down grappler type. He's more of an

1006
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: out hustle scrambler kind of top position guy. That's a

1007
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: little bit more where he is. And by the way, Marie,

1008
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: my producer, says, Askarov was born deaf and through his

1009
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: hearing through life, I guess his hearing has improved. He

1010
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: can only hear approximately twenty percent of the sounds most

1011
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: people can. By the way, it should also be noted

1012
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 2: I can hear zero percent of the sounds that Brian

1013
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: Campbell makes, especially when his zoom shits the bed. Getting

1014
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: back to the numbers here a little bit. As I mentioned,

1015
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: take down defense for Askarov sixty four percent, pretty decent

1016
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: for Kai Kara France eighty seven percent. Neither is a

1017
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 2: big submission threat. Both at zero point zero per fifteen minutes.

1018
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: Would be interesting to see if that somehow gets weaved

1019
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: in here. Does one of them go a little bit

1020
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: outside of their comfort zone, a little bit outside of

1021
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 2: their previous sort of territory of what they consider high

1022
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: percentage attacks for them, and and and really kind of

1023
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: throw in a wild card here with a submission attempt.

1024
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: If if one is there at guillotine or maybe something

1025
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: from the back or whatever, that could be kind of interesting.

1026
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: All right, I can hear b C. Now do we

1027
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: have him? I'm here, I'm here, let's up.

1028
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yeah, nobody wants to hear why

1029
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: I had tech issues, but I had him, Luke, it

1030
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: was my fault. I'm back at it. Luke, is is

1031
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: Askarov deaf? Did I get that right?

1032
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? He's he's he's got twenty he can hear twenty

1033
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: percent of the sounds most people can.

1034
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: So that's that's incredible. I mean, shout out to Matt Hamill,

1035
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: who had a very respectable career with the same stepback there, Luke,

1036
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're at in this preview, but

1037
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. The best flyweight in the

1038
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: world is in this fight, Luke. And his name is

1039
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: Ascar Askarov, and uh, he's gonna win this one and

1040
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: then then the next one, and and you know he's

1041
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna end up your flyway champion.

1042
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: Luke.

1043
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: I think he's the most well run threat. He's tough

1044
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: as nails, and everything that you said good about him,

1045
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: you're damn right. This is a great test. I think

1046
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: he already deserved the title shot, but he's got a

1047
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: historic rivalry now above him in Brandon Marino and in

1048
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: the new champion, the old champion, same as the old

1049
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: boss there with Devison Figuredo. But Luke, I just can't see.

1050
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't see those odds are they're tempting

1051
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: because I can see kai Kara Frantz win this. Does

1052
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: he have the firepower to win this? Luke does he

1053
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: have enough firepower?

1054
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: Yes, he does. He does. You know, the firepower by

1055
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: itself is not enough to win. I think he would

1056
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: need a few other things in conjunction with it. But

1057
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: you're asking, does he have you know, the kind of

1058
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: like round or fight altering power and accuracy to to

1059
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: really hurt askro off here? Yeah, sure he does.

1060
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: I love this fight. Give me askarv Okay, Luke there,

1061
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: it is all right, that's what's happening.

1062
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: Luke. Did you pick?

1063
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: Did you do you care?

1064
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: You don't care? I will pick, Yes, I'll pick Askarov.

1065
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: I know you think I was gonna pick Kaykr France

1066
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: because he trains in New Zealand. But I have respect

1067
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: for him. But I think this might be a bridge

1068
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: too far.

1069
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: I had respect for you by not mentioning that at all.

1070
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: Luke.

1071
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I kind of like this, this sloppy fight that

1072
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna give us, Luke as Alexiolenik and Beefy Latifi

1073
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: touched down here at heavyweight. It's it's largely gross in

1074
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: us and unnecessary, Luke. But uh, your quick thoughts very

1075
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: quick on heavyweight Latifi very quick.

1076
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yes, great, I mean I don't have anything

1077
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: bad to say about it, But I don't, I don't,

1078
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: you know, it's not like a big editorial priority for

1079
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: me and there and there, and the producers are begging

1080
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: us to move on.

1081
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, it is what it is,

1082
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: Luke Marc Cha Casey also against Vlachslav Borschev to open

1083
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: what could end up being a six fight main card,

1084
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: Luke Dona Dov Is there any fight you are loving

1085
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: on the prelim card as much as I have love

1086
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: for Jennifer Maya replacing Jessica I against maynod Ferroh, Luke,

1087
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: this is a tough ass matchup for your woman of

1088
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: French kickboxing renowned.

1089
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, tough fight obviously. We know Jennifer Mayo well

1090
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: rounded and again herself experienced in this division, great on

1091
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: the ground, menal fro O, great on the feet, or

1092
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: at least you know has been mostly pretty good on

1093
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: the feet. So this fight, this card has a few

1094
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: of these sort of got these ladies or guys with

1095
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: very different ways in which they win, and we're gonna

1096
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: have to negotiate that and see which one comes out.

1097
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 2: It's a it's an interesting kind of coincidence. Also, Chris

1098
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: Gutierrez taking on Dinah or back Guarrel Donah, who I

1099
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: think trains with Brandon Gibson over at Jackson Wink so

1100
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: another and Chris Gutiers I think is out of not

1101
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: elevation but factory acts and Mark Montoya, so you know,

1102
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: two elite teams, elite coaches. That should be another fun

1103
00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: one as well.

1104
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and Neil Magni Max Payne Griffin could end

1105
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: up being the featured preliminary about forty one year old

1106
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: Sarah McMahon returning for the first time since that finished

1107
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: loss to Juliana Panach. She'll take on Carol ROSA few

1108
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: storylines there, Luke, few fights that all be interesting, so

1109
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: I'll be checking that out. Luke. Let's keep this train

1110
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: wreck rolling here and go back into the police Blotterer

1111
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: of all things UFC and a couple headlines that we

1112
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: keep making, Luke. Wednesday's top story was certainly Hore Masvidal

1113
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: two piece and a fractured tooth on Colby Covington out

1114
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: of Miami Steakhouse. We're all through that, Luke, We're mostly

1115
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: through the moral conundrum and all of that. But news

1116
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: has changed a bit since then, with Covington now pressing charges,

1117
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: telling police that his ninety thousand dollars Rolex suffered fifteen

1118
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in damage. So, Luke, he's going full on

1119
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: with this. And we do know that this, uh what

1120
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: Mosbitol has been charged with can become a felony if

1121
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: fully convicted there, so you know there's no shortage of

1122
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: stakes here. But did we rightfully or wrongfully receive some

1123
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: criticism from our viewers for going you know, I mean,

1124
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: his unfortunate situation all around, but now on, you know,

1125
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: Jorge kind of announce it well in advance. That's his style,

1126
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: that's what he does in Colby. May or may not

1127
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: have had it coming. I'm seeing a lot more regular

1128
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: life response to that from fans going nah fit at

1129
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's assault brother the guy.

1130
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: You know, he had his chance in the cage. Yes,

1131
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: maybe because I look at the fight game as so

1132
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: not pro wrestling necessarily, but just an alternate universe. Sometimes

1133
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: the life these guys live to me is just like

1134
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: this weird game Ultimate Universe, try to create fights out

1135
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: of beefs and all that. That. Yeah, our fans reaction

1136
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: of holy shit, that's some shitty shit done by horree

1137
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: maz vital is one hundred percent damn right, and Colby

1138
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: is the victim in this case. You know, we never

1139
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, argue that, but you've seen a wide reaction

1140
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: from fighters that seems to differ from the reaction from

1141
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: the fans.

1142
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: And what in supporting Jorge.

1143
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: Yes, there's a lot of Joge support.

1144
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: Well, dude, I mean this is one of these situations

1145
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: where it's a little bit unique, and I haven't noticed.

1146
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: I have noticed that the fans have very much taken

1147
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: Colby side. Listen. I said this yesterday and I'll say

1148
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: it again here. Dude, if like, what would you think

1149
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: if Colby sued him? Nothing, dude, whoever punched him and

1150
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: jogees of course alleged to have punched him, but whoever

1151
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: the assailant is made a very clear choice about what

1152
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: they wanted for their future, right you and you accepted

1153
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: all of the things that came with it. Colby Covington

1154
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: is entitled to legal remedy. He absolutely is the victim

1155
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: legal remedy through their criminal justice system as well as

1156
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: any kind of civil suit that made be launched consequently.

1157
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't judge him for it even a little bit.

1158
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: He is absolutely entitled to all of that. My only

1159
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: point can be is, again, if you were trying to

1160
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 2: explain to an innocent bystander how this could have possibly happened,

1161
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: it's not especially confusing. What the law is and what

1162
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: we should tolerate in society, of course, is one conversation,

1163
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: and then a separate one is that has nothing to

1164
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: do with whether or not it will. There is just

1165
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: very It is absolutely true. It is absolutely true Colby

1166
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: coming in as a victim, full stop, no argument about it, period.

1167
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: That is the full nature of what happened on that

1168
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: night in Miami. It is also true that he agitated

1169
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: and provoked and showed incredibly poor risk management through an

1170
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: act designed for self aggrandizement. Well, dude, the bill came

1171
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 2: due on that. He cannot act surprised by that. Even

1172
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: if I fully grant that what happened to him one

1173
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: makes him like.

1174
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: As stupid as my explanation for that is in theory.

1175
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 1: It's true. It becomes this alternate world when you play

1176
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: this character publicly, that this is some of the price

1177
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: you pay. Just like Luke, I like to live in

1178
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: a safe, daily world that has the kind of rules

1179
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: that if somebody runs up with a mask and does

1180
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: this type of premeditated attack, that yes, like you said

1181
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: about Colby, I or you or anybody would have every

1182
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: right to sue for damages and press full charges and

1183
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: all of that. But you enter that weird world. Just

1184
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: like Luke, we all live under the same rules, but

1185
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: go into certain neighborhoods I'm sure in Washington, DC, or Hartford,

1186
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: Connecticut or anywhere, and then you got as different set

1187
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: of rules. Luke, Okay, they do. It's just this. There's

1188
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: no freaking questioning that. So I didn't never set any

1189
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: of that to glorify mosvital I do seem to be

1190
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: the only one that it thinks it's premeditated to a

1191
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: degree in hopes of getting bigger fights. But even that aside, Luke,

1192
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: it's shitty though, But is it not shitty under street

1193
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: rules because mos Vidal has long stood by that being

1194
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: his style and his way to way to survive. I mean,

1195
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: that's a stupid question, Luke.

1196
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: You know it's sure you're asking the wrong guy about

1197
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: what the proper etiquette is with So.

1198
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: Is that why all the fighters are backing him or

1199
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: are they only backing him because they hate Colby more?

1200
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: Is that definitely? Well, for sure, they hate Colby. For sure,

1201
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: they hate Colby. So that's a big part of it.

1202
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: You know. The other part is that, you know, I

1203
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: don't know. I can't speak for the fighters. I do

1204
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: think though it bears one thing repeating here. Listen, this

1205
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: is what Colby I think thought that the risk management

1206
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 2: side was a big of a bit of a game,

1207
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: and it hadn't really cost him in person yet up

1208
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: until this incident, so he probably thought it just wasn't

1209
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: gonna happen, right, you know how how what was the

1210
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: likelihood of him being attacked? He probably thought it was

1211
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: much lower than it actually was. But the thing I

1212
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: want to point about Jorge is it's like, Okay, here's

1213
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 2: what Colby got wrong about all of that. He went

1214
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: to Oregon State, and you know, I don't realized he

1215
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: went to colleges before that, but he was a two

1216
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: time All American, Like, he went through this kind of

1217
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: process that a lot of you know, middle income Americans

1218
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: get to do. You go to college and you graduate

1219
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: and you could do things after that. He chose an

1220
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: unusual career path afterwards, but he had a you know,

1221
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: relatively normal ish upbringing in terms of that kind of experience.

1222
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: Hora Maswital. Did he even make it to the ninth grade?

1223
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: He dropped out. I don't know what, if any kind

1224
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: of post secondary education he has. I don't judge him

1225
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: for it. Everyone has a completely different life circumstance. In fact,

1226
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: he made great work of himself coming from the place

1227
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: where you know, you're dropping out of high school or whatever,

1228
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: and then you're competing in the backyards with Kimbo Slice

1229
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: and now you're headlining UFC cards and you know you're

1230
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: a multi millionaire. This is the only point about Jhoge

1231
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: that I feel like has needs to be set as well.

1232
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: It's like, it's like, dude, isn't the point of getting

1233
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: to a place where you're making this money and you're

1234
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: headlining these cards and your life is a lot more

1235
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: comfortable than it ever was before. Isn't the point of

1236
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: getting to that place so that you can leave the

1237
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: street shit behind? Right? One is supposed to be the

1238
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: graduated departure from the other life that you didn't like

1239
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: for yourself, and you didn't want for yourself. You wanted

1240
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: something more, and he did it and he earned it,

1241
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: every inch, every dollar he earned. You cannot take any

1242
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: of that away from Jorge. But I just don't understand

1243
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,439
Speaker 2: the mentality where you finally get a chance to leave

1244
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 2: that and then you bring it back against a rival

1245
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: in a career path, where you get to fucking fistfight

1246
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: each other and you just did a few it. It's

1247
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: just that, just.

1248
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: So's I guess that's why I'm so firmly in the

1249
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: idea of like no guys Masvidal like, although I do

1250
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: believe he stands for this. That's why again, if there

1251
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: was no idea at all of a second fighter pay

1252
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: per view, you know, bonus for having done this, you know,

1253
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: is he still wired like that? Yeah, yeah, of course

1254
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: I believe that. But I have to believe that this

1255
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: was at least financially motivated for the future of getting

1256
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: a fight, only because if it's not, Luke, why the

1257
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: hell are you going to this leg think to prove

1258
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: out tough you are when again, you just had twenty

1259
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: five minutes against him, and now you've got a strong

1260
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: army of people Luke on replying to our tweets and

1261
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: adding us in the comments and all that saying hey

1262
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: Luke and Brian, how are you not mentioning that Colby

1263
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: actually never said anything about his kids, and because that's irrelevant.

1264
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: It's irrelevant.

1265
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: Colby said a lot of other shit about deadbeat wives

1266
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: and all that, right, I mean our dead beat being

1267
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: a Colby went deep enough where where that's you.

1268
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: Know, it's like you have to be a third grader

1269
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: to think that that is some kind of meaningful difference.

1270
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: It doesn't. Yes, would that have been even worse if

1271
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: he had really gone out and be like this kid

1272
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: and that kid is this and that? Yes, that would

1273
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: have been completely awful. Dude, Please everyone out there stop

1274
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: it with this nonsense that in the end it was

1275
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: just harmless talk. Yes, I agree that if you live

1276
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: in a dignity society, it doesn't matter what anyone says,

1277
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: it shouldn't affect you. But a lot of people don't

1278
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: live in that kind of headspace. And so the question

1279
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: you have to ask yourself is did Colby sufficiently agitate

1280
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 2: enough people that over time someone decided to sock him

1281
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: in the face for it. Whether or not he brought

1282
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: up a kid, that's the argument, Not like, well, in

1283
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: my playground, you could talk about the older kid if

1284
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: he's a team, but you can't talk about the little

1285
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: one if it is a girl or over it's five,

1286
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: but if it's three, you can kind of like these

1287
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: stupid ass rules that only a simpleton would consider as

1288
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: like the meaningful difference. No, the dude agitated violent people

1289
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: and they reacted, period. That's the argument.

1290
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: I lean more toward that, knowing there's a price to

1291
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: pay when playing a shtick like that, and that's what

1292
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: it is at the end. Luke quickly here, but UFC

1293
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: has not really responded, and I don't expect them to.

1294
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: UFC's track record, Luke, obviously very controversial at times, is

1295
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: just to oh, we'll let the law handle it. But

1296
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: I think in this case, and look, maybe it's the

1297
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: same case with abib Connor. We just felt like the

1298
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: dolly with the window and the Hibibe Connor was different.

1299
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's different, Luke, but it's it's close, but

1300
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: it's different. But with that said, it's kind of like

1301
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: hockey in the NHL in a way where it's like,

1302
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: of course, I think UFC's got to like this. I

1303
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: know you could tell me be she you're crazy. It's

1304
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: a bad look. These are pro athletes represented on you know,

1305
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: Disney owned ESPN and blah blah blah. I think they

1306
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: kind of like this, Luke.

1307
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: I do that part you might be, I mean like it.

1308
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think they would rather wouldn't prefer it,

1309
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't prefer it, wouldn't prefer it.

1310
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: Yes, but like they're not cracking down saying, you guys

1311
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: need to show up in suits on your way to

1312
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: the arena. You need to act something.

1313
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: I mean, here, here's what. Here's how you know that

1314
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: they don't care that much. I mean, I'm sure they're

1315
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 2: not like happy about it, but here's they didn't cut

1316
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: anybody right, Like if it really bothered them, if it

1317
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: was like, no, fuck this guy, we cannot do business

1318
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: with him anymore. Forget it, You're done, go live your life.

1319
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: This is not how we're going to you know, proceed. Yeah,

1320
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: that would tell you that they probably had enough. No,

1321
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: they didn't business as usual.

1322
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: It was it was the you know, former head of

1323
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: the nWo Eazye there on a pro wrestling side here, Luke,

1324
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: that Eric Bischoff who said, you know, controversy creates cash.

1325
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: Luke. Okay, So.

1326
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: The end of the day, Luke Jor is gonna have

1327
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: to pay a lot of cash, and he's got to

1328
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: hope everything goes his way legally. But they're both gonna

1329
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: they're both gonna benefit from this as well their employer.

1330
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: More news at eleven. Luke, Uh, he wasn't the only one.

1331
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: Oh sorry? Quickly is Habib about align with this response?

1332
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: I think we have the tweet to throw to some

1333
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: people argue, you know, Habib's never tweeted, and this could

1334
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: be Ali. You know, you could go a lot of

1335
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: ways with this, but here was the response of Habib

1336
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: of this incident. If you are stronger than someone inside

1337
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: the octagon, it does not mean that you can insult

1338
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: his children. No one has the right to insult someone's family.

1339
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: Once you have gone down this path, then be ready

1340
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: to back up your words. You were attacked by a

1341
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: profighter the same as you are your own size, and

1342
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: you go press charges against him to the police. I

1343
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: think all Walter Way should refuse to fight Colby. Just

1344
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: don't accept fights with him. Let him sit without a fight.

1345
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: It will probably significantly affect him. In all fighters we

1346
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: even think of insulting families. Who is provoking the fighters

1347
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 1: to look for someone in restaurants to deal with him, Luke,

1348
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: we did see a lot of tweets from fighters going, hey,

1349
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: I didn't see Leon Edwards. You know, get the get

1350
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 1: the authorities involved. I'm not here to debate that, Luke.

1351
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm here to hear you debate Habib's take.

1352
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: I don't agree. I don't agree at all. Like dude,

1353
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to live in a world where people

1354
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: think that because I or anyone else said something that

1355
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: another person doesn't lack, another person can go and sock

1356
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: him in the face for it. I think we can

1357
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 2: all agree that. You know, certainly, at a bare minimum,

1358
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: Colby made a dedicated effort to be as indecent as

1359
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: you know a person probably could. Again, I suppose other

1360
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: limits he could have gone to, but you know, he

1361
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: was trying to fuck with people pretty hardcore, and so

1362
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: I understand that. You know that's going to agitate people

1363
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: if you do that. So I understand that, But that

1364
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I then secondarily follow that up with, well,

1365
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: I guess we just yeah, we should live in a rule,

1366
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: live in a world where you know, if someone doesn't

1367
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: like something you say, they can fucking punch you in

1368
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: the face for it. No, that's that's barbaric, and I

1369
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: don't agree at all.

1370
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: The fans backed Kobe though the fans backed Kobe Big

1371
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: in this uh debate.

1372
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: Dude, he is the victim. I'm sorry, like what he is?

1373
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: Just I ask yourself, what did Colby says as awful

1374
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: as it he said many awful things? What did he

1375
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: say that was legally actionable?

1376
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: Nothing Like again, in regular life, I'm not supporting any

1377
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: of this. This ain't regular life to me. It's a

1378
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: little different. Like you know, like look when I get

1379
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: into you know, dust ups on the basketball court, I

1380
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: always think, you just you leave it in that court. Though,

1381
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, as long as I didn't cross the line

1382
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: with my mouth, we leave it in that court, right right?

1383
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: I understand that. But again it also just bears repeating

1384
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 2: like people like, yes, this is what I mean, Like

1385
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: people who speak out on principal stances and then bad

1386
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: things happen to him. You know that that's one thing,

1387
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: But like you're knowingly agitating against people for self aggrandizement

1388
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: and doing it in very questionable ways. Even if you

1389
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: may or may not have said anything specifically about the children,

1390
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: it seems what somewhat irrelevant. You also have to weigh

1391
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: the pros and cons of that, because, dude, tons of

1392
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: people we should say this, tons of people have agitated

1393
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 2: and haven't had the record of having people run up

1394
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: on him like Colby has. I think people should reflect

1395
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 2: on why that has happened or not, Luke.

1396
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: If I went through with it, or maybe it's more

1397
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: like when I go through with it and in a

1398
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: temph of rear naked choke to force you in that

1399
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: same you know, tap or nap beach moment, and I do,

1400
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: because of your stubbornness, put you to sleep when you

1401
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: wake up, would you assume me.

1402
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: When you wake up from that dream that you're having,

1403
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: you let me know.

1404
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, you know I wonder that sometimes, Luke.

1405
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: I do wonder that you know you should leave it there,

1406
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: You should leave it as a thunder.

1407
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I am wondering, Luke. Your buddy Connor McGregor

1408
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: arrested again, this time in My Best Problem We all

1409
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: the time, pulled over and his vehicle was seized, charged

1410
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: with dangerous driving charges. Luke, he was driving a Bentley

1411
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: Continental worth one hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars. If

1412
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: convicted here, it's a hefty financial penalty and up to

1413
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: six months in prison. Luke, is this a wake up

1414
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 1: call or is this just you know, the price of

1415
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,480
Speaker 1: being famous.

1416
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 2: Luke, that'suprocessed to being famous. They actually have video of us.

1417
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 2: Like two guys were driving in Ireland on the highway.

1418
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: They spot McGregor who had the top down on his

1419
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: car looked like it anyway, and they kept saying up

1420
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: the mac, you know, like big upstom or whatever, and

1421
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: he was shouting back at him. So he was loving it.

1422
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I don't know if he

1423
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: would have done something before that or he was doing

1424
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 2: something during in the middle of that. But then the

1425
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 2: cops flag him, you know, I mean, listen, I said

1426
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: he passed sobriety test, which frankly to me is the

1427
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: more important infringement. But you know, we'll also say this.

1428
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: We got Aerospince Junior coming back and he had the

1429
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: retina surgery which is what prevented the Pacquiao fight and

1430
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: everything else. But before that, he had his Porsche or

1431
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: whatever it was being flung into the air because he

1432
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 2: just wasn't reacting or you know, he wasn't he just

1433
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: wasn't being a good driver and there was more to

1434
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: the story than that, obviously, I'm just saying, yeah, you know,

1435
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 2: was just the biggest scandal. No, but I would prefer

1436
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: him to not being getting pulled over and arrested for

1437
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: driving like a mania.

1438
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: While Connor has had too many arrests, you know, in

1439
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: the last four or five years, and there's always controversy

1440
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: swirling around him, this doesn't scream, as you know, scari

1441
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: or ridiculous. In twenty seventeen, he got he paid a

1442
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: four hundred and forty dollars fine for speeding. And then

1443
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, Luke he had his license revoked and

1444
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: he faced a huge fine when he got pulled over

1445
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: doing one fifty four kilometers in a one hundred. So,

1446
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, when you're a risk taking pro athlete like

1447
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, did you expect Lawrence Taylor to do anything

1448
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: for the style he played on the field for the Giants?

1449
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: Could he be anything than what he was off of it?

1450
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: Luke just a full on just you know, get after

1451
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: it in the in the personal life and the nightclub.

1452
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: Seeing Luke driving sports cars at ridiculous speeds. I mean,

1453
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: our us, our favorite rock stars, our favorite action heroes,

1454
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: we almost expect that. I ain't saying it's a safe

1455
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: thing though.

1456
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: Look, okay, no it's not. You know, in Florida, they

1457
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: don't make anyone who's driving a motorcycle or a Vestmo

1458
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: wear a helmet. Boy, they don't give a fuck down there. Huh.

1459
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: Well, they don't want they don't want to be told, Luke.

1460
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: I see that. Yeah, it's just like, hey, you know,

1461
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: we just don't mind dying, like it's just a thing

1462
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: that we do every day more than most. It's great.

1463
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great, Luke. We've got Nate Diaz making a

1464
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: lot of noise about both Connor McGregor and Jorge mos

1465
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: Vital and then Dustin Pourier jumping in. We have some

1466
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: tweets to throw to you. I don't expect you to

1467
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: care necessarily that he's john back and forth with Connor

1468
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: of who submitted who and and who should play who

1469
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: in a movie because Jared Leto got involved and said

1470
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: he'd love to play McGregor. But again, I ask you,

1471
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: as we run through these and look at it, why

1472
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: the hell is Nate Diaz versus Dustin Poorrier? And I've

1473
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: been freaking booked already, Like what the Luke I can

1474
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: only conspiracy, you know, web together a lot of ideas

1475
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: because why the hell is this not happening?

1476
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: He ain't capable now or this year? Okay, incapable ass

1477
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: been trying to fight for seven months. UFC. Let's fucking go.

1478
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: Don't forget that. Nate tweeted about wanting to fight for

1479
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: Belatur on the Hawaii card. Luke as well.

1480
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 2: Yes, all UFC fires need to stop getting arrested for

1481
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 2: stupid shit. You're acting like animals, irresponsible little kids. Get

1482
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: your ship together, drive safe, please and act right, bah.

1483
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: Luke. Would you've survived being raised in Stockton? Do you

1484
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: think you could have? I mean, you did the marine thing.

1485
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: You know, survive maybe happily, Not that I've not that

1486
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 2: I've known what that's like at all throughout forty two

1487
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: years of life, but probably whatever I have experiences even less.

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Speaker 1: Okay, should we be concerned about this daz foury a

1489
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: thing or is it you just think they're kind of

1490
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: waiting and plugging it in it plugging it in on

1491
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: a large card in the fall or something.

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01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're trying to figure out their calendar

1493
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: and then they haven't done that yet. That's what I

1494
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 2: think is because they're very meticulous about their planning. How

1495
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: many shows, where are they going to be, who's going

1496
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: to be on them, what if what belts need to

1497
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: be in rotation with who?

1498
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: You know?

1499
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 2: They're very good about that, So I tend to think

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01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 2: that's probably what the hold up is.

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01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I think I'm reading potential quick hitters here, Luke,

1502
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: off the wrong list. I think I copy and pasted

1503
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 1: on my list.

1504
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're so dialed in for today's show as

1505
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 2: host that we don't great, we don't have these problems.

1506
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: So maybe I'll talk about that other thing later, all right, Luke.

1507
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: Topic three is one Championship is gonna have their anniversary

1508
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: card called one X signifying ten years making rap tunes. Luke.

1509
01:12:55,080 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: Ever since Honey's was wearing sassoon for Chatri Sidyong Tong

1510
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,560
Speaker 1: and company. Luke, it's a big celebration. There would be

1511
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 1: a it's almost like three cards in one across multi

1512
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: different of course disciplines, MMA, kickboxing, Muay Thai, all that, Luke.

1513
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: But the main reason for US us MMA fans to

1514
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 1: be pumped up is that comin event when Demetrius Johnson

1515
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: does the multi rules mixed rules fight against the kickboxing

1516
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 1: sensation Rod Tang road tongue Rod is it Rodan Luke?

1517
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: He's a savage, He's an action fighter. This is creative,

1518
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 1: this is fun. We nailed all that already. What the

1519
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: hell does this actually look like? And how much does DJ?

1520
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: After that loss? Luke re examined, you know where what

1521
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: which direction in his career He's going, Luke, I gave

1522
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: you all.

1523
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is this is one of those

1524
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 2: fights where you know, what does the result mean? You

1525
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: never really know because if DJ goes out there during

1526
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 2: the MMA round and chokes the mouth, then who cares?

1527
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 2: Or maybe that doesn't happen, he gets knocked out, or

1528
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't happen, but then he's actually like pretty competitive

1529
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: on the feet or whatever. You know, who does what

1530
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: the it'll look like you It's like it's like when

1531
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: you have the you know two, like when a boxer

1532
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: fights an MMA fighter, it's like, well, whatever, you know,

1533
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 2: whatever round that happens and is the likeliest outcome. Now

1534
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: it is true that who was it? I forget the

1535
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: guy's name. It was a Japanese guy who fought Shinya

1536
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: Aoki was a kickboxer Janso I forget Yamaguchi was his

1537
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: name or something like that anyway, and he survived on

1538
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: the ground and then need Shinya Aoki in the stand

1539
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: up round, which you know, again sort of is one

1540
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 2: of the more plausible outcomes you're going to get. I

1541
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: tend to think that what this fight signifies that it's fun,

1542
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,440
Speaker 2: could be kind of interesting. One guy might outperform expectations

1543
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: in the side of the game that they're not in

1544
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: their best, but in general, like, however it goes, you'll

1545
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: probably be like, oh right, it was always going to go.

1546
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: You know, in one of these likely scenarios.

1547
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: Are they fighting until a stoppage or I know there's

1548
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: two rounds that are MMA, two that are uh, what

1549
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: is it muytier kickboxing?

1550
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 2: I think I think muy thai, I'm not sure.

1551
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: And then do they go to a fifth if it's

1552
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: deemed a draw. There there's probably something funky in there.

1553
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: It'll be fun to watch. Luke just the same the

1554
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: guy that did beat Dimitris Johnson to defend his one

1555
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: Flyway titles. Also on this card, Adriano Marais she'll be

1556
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 1: taking on Gudya Wakamatsu. Luke that main event, as a

1557
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 1: lot of people talking even Stateside, about Angela Lee defending

1558
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 1: her ADAM weight title against stamp Fair techs. Are we

1559
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: sleeping a bit on Angela Lee when we rightfully criticize

1560
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 1: one for its you know, financial claims and all that

1561
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: ratings claims.

1562
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: What do you mean you mean like she doesn't deserve praise?

1563
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: Should we be talking about her more? And we don't

1564
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: because one's got you know, a little stigma on it.

1565
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: Well, the other part is that she doesn't have a

1566
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: ton of fights. She has lost two of her last three,

1567
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: so I think that might be part of it as well.

1568
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: And she was going out of her wasn't she daring

1569
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: to be great in a way?

1570
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: Yes? And so two things. Once she got the revenge

1571
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 2: in one of the fights. The other one was Michelle Nicolini,

1572
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 2: who was, like Michelle Nicolini scored the most gruesome arm

1573
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 2: bar I've ever seen of all arm bars anywhere. It

1574
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 2: was when she took I forget who she did it against.

1575
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: Maybe it was Mikey Mussamechi's sister and she'd pull the

1576
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 2: arm and it wasn't this. It is that she took

1577
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: this arm and bent it all the way across her

1578
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: own back. I'd never even seen anything like that, and

1579
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: it was the most gruesome thing ever. So losing to

1580
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: her is not the biggest deal in the world. But

1581
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 2: to the point, I think that has somewhat dimmed the

1582
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: relevant North American media from covering her more.

1583
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. She'll be main essentially main eventing this

1584
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: whole event, which is going to have a seven fight

1585
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: main card called the Grand Finale that kicks off eight

1586
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: am Eastern on Saturday morning, Luke, or is it Sunday morning.

1587
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure. I think it's Saturday morning. But

1588
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 1: Shinya Ioki gonna have a funnel guy fight with Sexy

1589
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: Yama and Ed Furlong. Luke is gonna have from Terminator two,

1590
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: is gonna take on John Way, parr in Amoy Thai

1591
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: about and plenty of kickboxing champions who I could never

1592
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: pronounce their names, but one is gonna have its moment

1593
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: with one ex Luke, Look, you got you gotta check

1594
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 1: it out Mighty Mouse in this weird fight. You gotta

1595
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,799
Speaker 1: check it out, all right, Luke. Quickly boxing this weekend,

1596
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: we went hard at Wednesday on Timzu's Showtime debut US debut.

1597
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: Both will take place in Minneapolis at the Armory Saturday night.

1598
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: Terrell go Shay the opponent for Tim Zu, and this

1599
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: is the first of the spring summer schedule for Showtime Luke,

1600
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: and it's a good tripleheader. We talked about son of

1601
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer and all that stuff. Let's talk

1602
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: turkey in the ring. Timzu has shown a lot, Luke,

1603
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: but it's been on the domestic level. This is the

1604
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: perfect step up in my eyes against Goshe who can

1605
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 1: counterfeight effectively, great technique and is coming off a big

1606
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: knockout second round stoppage of Jamonte Clark, which offsets the

1607
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: critics you normally hear from Gastet are surrounding him. Of

1608
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 1: he's skilled, but he's a little too passive, doesn't let

1609
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: his hands go enough. I think he's trying to resurrect that, Luke.

1610
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: Is this a fool's goal fight? I mean a trap

1611
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: fight here for tim zw Is he walking into something, Luke?

1612
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: Or are we going to see the next the next

1613
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: at one point fifty four, take that one step closer.

1614
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what to expect from him. I know

1615
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 2: you've been high. I watched the Jeff Horn fight he

1616
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: looked pretty good in that one. To your point, like,

1617
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 2: he actually looked really good in that fight. I tend

1618
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 2: to think he should beat Terrell Goshe, who I think

1619
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 2: is a good, if flawed fighter, right. I think it's

1620
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: maybe a fairish way to put it. Here's what I

1621
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 2: want to ask you, though, I have noticed that when

1622
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 2: you say to me, and I don't find it all

1623
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: that controversial, but when you say to me like, oh,

1624
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: he did a lot of stuff domestically, but now he's

1625
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 2: in the big leagues, a lot of the people in

1626
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 2: Australia are like, hey, fuck off, bro like or mate,

1627
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: because what he did here was actually pretty important, not

1628
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 2: just from the box office perspective because he's been on

1629
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 2: pay per view there for a while, but he actually

1630
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 2: beat some good names in here and show its great ability.

1631
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: And it's you fucking assholes who didn't recognize George camp

1632
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: Boss was any good because y'all are some haters in

1633
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: North America. What about that?

1634
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 1: Okay? So what that means is in shout out to

1635
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, down, you shout out to Australian boxing, just

1636
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: like we're shouting out the explosively ridiculous rise in the

1637
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,839
Speaker 1: UK and Ireland at the moment is now y'all finally

1638
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: got a good you know, you know, amateur system and

1639
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: feeding system to create this type of run. Now have

1640
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: things changed for good in boxing in that regard that

1641
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,759
Speaker 1: that they're consistently putting out world class fighters? Not completely,

1642
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: but there's momentum right now. So I get that nobody

1643
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: wants to be insulted, but as things have gone in

1644
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: the modern time in boxing, you gotta you got to

1645
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: prove it in Las Vegas on the pay per view level,

1646
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, against the American champion of the moment, or

1647
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: the champion from Europe, you know, or fighting in America, whoever.

1648
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: You get my point. But this is a this is

1649
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: a big one though. This guy has potential to be

1650
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: the best boxer in this country's you know history, Luke,

1651
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 1: and this this country's had had a few you know,

1652
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 1: legends for sure, But he's coming on, Luke. And if

1653
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: you look at the odds here, and we've talked about

1654
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: why he's so good and why goshe is a tough test.

1655
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: But unless Gaste really lets his hands go and gets

1656
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: to another level, it's certainly a passable test. Uh. The

1657
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: betting odds though Luke, which tend to be wider in

1658
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: these big boxing fights than the MMA ones minus eleven

1659
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: hundred Tim Zoo on DraftKings your favorite plus six point

1660
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: fifty goat se uh So they're the you know, Vegas

1661
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: giving giving young Zoo a ton of respect. But Luke,

1662
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: how's he gonna do it. It's gonna be behind that

1663
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 1: big jab Yep. It's gonna be a consistent body attack

1664
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: because that's what he does. But I think if Terrell

1665
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: goshe gets too reckless or too offensive, Zoo's two schooled,

1666
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 1: poised and can time him, and I think you can

1667
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: get him out of there. So there's gonna have to

1668
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: be a dance Grostet is gonna have to do, meaning

1669
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to really control the terms in pace

1670
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: of the fight, Luke. But he's gonna have to be

1671
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 1: offensive enough to take you know, to take the shift

1672
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: there away from Zoo. I don't know if he can

1673
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: do that. That's the real question for me, because not

1674
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: to be more offensive, you're gonna have to take over

1675
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: the terms of this fight.

1676
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 2: That's right. Ericson Lubin is showing you here a little

1677
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 2: bit of what I expect from Tim Zoo not so

1678
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: much the center of the ring. I think Tim Zuo

1679
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 2: is gonna push him back with that big job as

1680
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: you mentioned, and really begin to go, you know, probably

1681
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: do more volume I would say, I would say, I

1682
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: don't know if Gashet is the bigger slickster. I think

1683
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 2: Goshet is gonna try to be the bigger slickster in

1684
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: this one. And I think the guy with the better

1685
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 2: fundamentals and the better punching power, which I think is Zoo,

1686
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: is gonna get it done. But the point I'm trying

1687
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 2: to make here is BC I think behind that job,

1688
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna see a lot, and I think you're gonna

1689
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 2: see Goshet. How soon I don't know, but eventually I

1690
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 2: think that stop it is gonna happen. Along the ropes.

1691
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 2: I think Timzu is gonna really press physically into him

1692
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: and make him fight along the rope, the ropes itself

1693
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 2: and then the rope line, and I think he's gonna

1694
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 2: get picked off from there. So does it get stopped?

1695
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm expecting big damage.

1696
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: If Zu is as good as we think he is.

1697
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: These are the type of these are the only types

1698
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: of fighters that kshe really loses to so you know,

1699
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: he lost ericson lub and he lost to Arislandi Laara

1700
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: and a title bout a draw with Austin Trout. That's

1701
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: the type of level. So I think Zoo will do it.

1702
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,799
Speaker 1: And this is a look. If he can get a stopage,

1703
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: it's a statement. It's a statement.

1704
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 2: You know.

1705
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can get the winner of

1706
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: Castanyo Charlo too right away, but you know, let's watch

1707
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 1: his rise if he can win this one and continue

1708
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: on in the States and Showtime. And yes, I got

1709
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: the test, I got the time limit coming here, Luke,

1710
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel. We're gonna get through this

1711
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: in time. But this is a triple header Saturday night

1712
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: for Showtime and this co main event. I don't want

1713
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: anybody to sleep on Michelle Rivera's and I'm beating lightweight

1714
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: who is putting something nicely together there. We don't talk

1715
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: about him with all those young lightweights, maybe as much

1716
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: as we should. He fashions himself a young cashiers, play

1717
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: in models and dresses, just like a young Muhammad Ali.

1718
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: His game isn't nearly as good, no disrespect, Luke, but

1719
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,560
Speaker 1: he is a talented guy. On the come up. What

1720
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: I love is what this test is Mooseph Adorno Luke,

1721
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: just two three fights ago, was an unbeaten top rank

1722
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: prospect from Puerto Rico, a puncher, a guy who goes

1723
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: after it, and then he said he he has back

1724
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: to back draws that were somewhat disappointing. Now it seems

1725
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: like he's on the open market, and it's a tough

1726
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: out for Michelle Rivera. They know each other, they've sparred

1727
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 1: in the past. So I'm really hoping people will circle

1728
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 1: on this co main event, Luke, because Rivera has looked special,

1729
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a tough fight.

1730
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 2: I will take you at your word. I frankically would

1731
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 2: be lying if I said I knew a lot about

1732
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 2: either fighter. But certainly, to just remind the folks at home,

1733
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 2: Tim Zuo and Torollgochet is the main event for a reason,

1734
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 2: but it's certainly not the only event.

1735
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: Yep, so that triple header Elvis Rodriguez returns as well,

1736
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: Luke Quickly. ESPN is gonna give us Miguel Burchell against

1737
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Nakatilla. And here's why this is interesting. Burchell has

1738
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: not fall.

1739
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: Love this fight.

1740
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 1: I do, because Burchell was the boogeyman at one thirty

1741
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: until Oscar Valdez moved up and knocked him out in

1742
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: that sensational fight you know, over a year ago. Burchell

1743
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: is now finally making his comeback. He's moving up to

1744
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: one thirty five and he's taken on Nakatilla, who lost

1745
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: to Shaquerz Stevenson in his biggest step up. But he

1746
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: has legit power and he made Stevenson to be fair.

1747
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: Luke circle away from that power pretty much the entire

1748
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: second half of that. This is a good test to

1749
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: see where Burchell is. He's got a new trainer, he's

1750
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: got a new outlook, he took a legitimate break off.

1751
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: If he wins this, Luke, he's a fun B side,

1752
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: but he's a fun out at one thirty five with

1753
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 1: all these other big names there, I mean, he can

1754
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: make some big fun fights.

1755
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 2: What's the biggest one. Let's say he gets the spectacular win.

1756
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: What do you think is a likely big fight that

1757
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 2: could potentially materialize this year for him?

1758
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,799
Speaker 1: Politics plays a big part because you know he fights

1759
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,560
Speaker 1: for top rank there on ESPN. But you know, we

1760
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:52,600
Speaker 1: do have look to chequer Stevenson's fighting Oscar Valdes in

1761
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: a freaking amazing fight. Could the winner of that be

1762
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: a great fight at one thirty five against Burchell, Yes,

1763
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: it looks like Tao Fimo's moving out so up to

1764
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: one forty, so that isn't a laine eron Engele right

1765
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: now for him. But Lomachenko's gonna need an opponent when

1766
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: he does come back. These are the type of fights

1767
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: that would be great. Everyone wanted Lomachenko versus Burchell at

1768
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: one thirty and never happened. Luke, this would be great

1769
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: to see those two against each other, so uh, check

1770
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: out that one. De Zone's also gonna give us a

1771
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: very interesting rematch. Kiko Martinez, the thirty five year old

1772
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: who had the upset knockout win to become champion late

1773
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: in his career, is gonna take on Josh Warrington a

1774
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: second time from their decision back in twenty seventeen. And Luke,

1775
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: Eric Morales and Orlando Soledo, the two old Mexican legends retired,

1776
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: are going to do a six round exhibition bout from

1777
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: somewhere in Texas and it's gonna air on Fight TV.

1778
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one hundred and fifty four pounds and

1779
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 1: I love both of these two action heroes, and they're

1780
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: probably gonna end up thinking it's real and go after it,

1781
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: and so that could be fun. But Luke should be

1782
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: worried that James Vick is gonna be boxing on that

1783
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 1: undercard at one hundred and sixty eight pounds against Simon

1784
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: Alejandro Heredia Cortes, who is a thirty eight year old

1785
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: with a zero zero in one professional record.

1786
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 2: No. See, here's the thing. If James Vick was like

1787
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,560
Speaker 2: really trying to go, like, you know, make something of

1788
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 2: himself in boxing, which I think would be very difficult

1789
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: to do given the circumstances, that'd be one thing. But

1790
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: it sounds like he just wants to compete and test

1791
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 2: himself a little bit. I'll, uh, you know, not quite

1792
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: as nimbly as Jim Miller or Matt Brown. But you know,

1793
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 2: if you're finding a guy who's zero and one thirty eight,

1794
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: how much are you really risking? It's not you know,

1795
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: for for a professional fighter, it's not that risky all

1796
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: things considered. Every you know, you don't want to diminish

1797
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 2: the threat per se. But I don't have a big

1798
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 2: problem with that at all. I think a guy should

1799
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 2: be allowed to do something like that.

1800
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 1: All right, all right, quickly here, Luke to get out.

1801
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: We got a couple of quick hitters. Page van Zana

1802
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: is gonna be back in the BKFC cage or ring

1803
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,560
Speaker 1: or however you want to call it. But it's bkfc's

1804
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: first moved to London July ninth, no opponent announced, but

1805
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: it's going to take place at Alexandra Palace. Luke would

1806
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: look like she was going the the pro wrestling room

1807
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: she signed with AW. Then she's telling everyone she's going

1808
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: to be an MMA before you know it. This is

1809
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of a surprise. I don't think you care, though.

1810
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 2: I do agree that it's surprising. I wonder where this

1811
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 2: ultimately will head to AW Bellator, PFL. I don't really

1812
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: know what it all means, but yes, I agree with

1813
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: you that's something worth paying attention to because it does

1814
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 2: seem like there's something there. I just I still wonder

1815
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: if BKFC is the best fit. But maybe they're paying

1816
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: her a ton and maybe it is.

1817
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: Gable Stevens Stevenson excuse me after his sect Steveson Steveson

1818
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: after his second straight NCAA championship. There at was he

1819
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: at super heavyweight or heavyweight? Luke? Is there such a

1820
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: thing in college?

1821
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: Do the heavyweight up to two eighty five is what

1822
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 2: they have?

1823
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: He talked with Ariel Luke, and he's really not as

1824
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: much as he's headed right to WrestleMania. He says, you know,

1825
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: expect to see him on the broadcast coming up and

1826
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: then expects to go full on into that world. He's

1827
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 1: not ruling out the MMA thing, Luke. It's one thing

1828
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: to tease it though, but he sounds hungry like he's

1829
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 1: gonna take that bite. So could he be one of

1830
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 1: these sort of freak celebrities who are like, I just

1831
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: want to come in for one big fun fight. Whoever's

1832
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: the biggest bidder?

1833
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? He could he dude, that kid. He should be

1834
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: able to until he's thirty at least, he should be

1835
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 2: able to be calling a lot of shots, a lot

1836
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 2: of them. Freak athlete, amazing wrestler, dynamic personality, loves to

1837
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: be a showman and is good at it. He should

1838
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 2: not be under anyone's onerous contract right that. If he

1839
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: can't get a good deal for himself in this world,

1840
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,520
Speaker 2: nobody can, you know, That's just the reality.

1841
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to see Daniel Cormier.

1842
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: This week.

1843
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: On his DCNRC show, Luke said that he thinks if

1844
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 1: only if Gable went full time, that he could become

1845
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: a you know, heavyweight champion in this game, like he

1846
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,520
Speaker 1: sees it in him. We all see a lot of criticism,

1847
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: and I know that brock Lessner like was crazy congratulatory

1848
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 1: after Gable won the NCAAA is Luke, and you have

1849
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 1: to think they're gonna I know it's not enough to

1850
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: get you back in like Stone Cold coming back at

1851
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: this WrestleMania for that skit thing they're gonna do. Luke.

1852
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that's enough to get you back in.

1853
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: Could I get you in for Gable versus Brock doing

1854
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 1: like a WrestleMania program?

1855
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 2: No, why would I care about pro wrestling?

1856
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know your limits, Luke. Okay, I

1857
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: know your personal limits. I've been there, Luke, Okay.

1858
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 2: Let my limits are. Oh is there pro wrestling on

1859
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: the screen? Please change it?

1860
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: That's my Yeah, you want this American Gladiators Gladiators? Yeah?

1861
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I mean or you know you can put

1862
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: on violent pornography something that's got some redeeming value. But

1863
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 2: that's not for me about that on this show.

1864
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 1: Uh luke real quick, here a couple of that belaitor news.

1865
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: Benson Henderson resigns with the promotion and he's going to

1866
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 1: be in a headlining role on an upcoming doubling card

1867
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:52,839
Speaker 1: against Peter Queeley.

1868
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good fight for him. Actually, I like that, dude.

1869
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: These guys who are a little bit older, they got

1870
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 2: a little bit of name left, they got a little

1871
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: bit of ability left. Not trying to like deny them.

1872
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 2: So if I can go and beat the best, please stop.

1873
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 2: No you can't, but that doesn't mean you can't beat

1874
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, some good, respectable name opposition, especially in Ireland.

1875
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 2: You know where he comes out. It's one of the

1876
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 2: best walkouts in all of MMA, that one he had

1877
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: with Zombie and the Cranberriers. It was fucking unbelievable. So

1878
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 2: uh yeah, great, love it, Glad to hear it. Good.

1879
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: The other bit of Bellator news, in addition to what

1880
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 1: we had already talked about with Sergio Pettis the champion

1881
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: pulling out of the Grand Prix. Now we have an

1882
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: interim title fight with with Rafeon Statts in the former

1883
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: champ Archiletta, but Luke James Gallaher unfortunately out as well.

1884
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: I know you are part of reacting to that breaking

1885
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 1: news on CBS Sports HQ yesterday. It looks like the

1886
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: result from Bellator's Instead of announcing one alternate or two

1887
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: alternates to fill these two holes, we're gonna get what

1888
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 1: is it three or or is it two or four

1889
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: playing matches to produce the four fighters.

1890
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: So four fighters, two fights. On one side, it's uh,

1891
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 2: Jordello Lugo, excuse Jordallo Lugo taking on a Sabatello. Winner

1892
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: of that I believe will fight Leandro Ego. On the

1893
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 2: other side, it's Enrique Barzola taken on Josh Hill. Now,

1894
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,879
Speaker 2: Josh Hill was originally named as the only tournament replacement,

1895
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 2: but I guess the problem was when you lose a

1896
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: couple of your folks, including the champion for crying out loud,

1897
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 2: you have to kind of play with this a little bit,

1898
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: so he will take on you. It would be Hill

1899
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 2: in Barzola, which by the way, is a great fight.

1900
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you that Lugo Sabatello fight, Dude,

1901
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 2: Sabatello is a fucking Hammer, and I think that's an

1902
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 2: att Sanford att versus Sandford fight as well. I think

1903
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 2: Sabatello just beat who's the kid out of Wales who's

1904
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 2: in the UFC, Brett Johns. I believe he beat him,

1905
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 2: and dude, he's good.

1906
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: I like he might go.

1907
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 2: He might, he might, he might get some big fights.

1908
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: I like the stakes that it adds to a couple

1909
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: extra fights that you may not have paid attention to

1910
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: with that level of focus now because we got these

1911
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: playing opportunities. I don't know if I love it for

1912
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs, Luke. You know, we'll have to get

1913
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: We'll have to experience that a few years and see

1914
01:31:59,600 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: if it hit.

1915
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Speaker 2: So they do it in big time European soccer, they

1916
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,759
Speaker 2: might do in MLS. I don't really watch that much MLS,

1917
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 2: but like they have, you know, the FA Cup in

1918
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 2: the Premier League, right, so it's this little tournament within

1919
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,560
Speaker 2: the season in soccer. It works just fine for me,

1920
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 2: but we'll see how the NBA fans take to it.

1921
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: Louke quickly to close on the quick hitters. PFL is

1922
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 1: going to kick off their new season April twentieth. It's

1923
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Speaker 1: a Wednesday night on ESPN main event the one fifty

1924
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Speaker 1: five champ rosch Manfio taking on Don Mage or Madge,

1925
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 1: Anti Pettis sick fight, yeah, and Anthony Pettison. The Colemane

1926
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 1: is going to take on Miles Price nicknamed Magic, who's

1927
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 1: a Irish kid from making his PFL debut that some

1928
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:43,799
Speaker 1: people have said can do some things. Luke Screwface Junior

1929
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,879
Speaker 1: there against Delan Monte and Clay Collared against Jeremy Stevens

1930
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Speaker 1: to kick that card off.

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Speaker 2: What a great I like it that is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1933
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 2: By the way, that that rausch men Field guy. I

1934
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 2: believe he won the whole season, but he certainly beat

1935
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Pettis and Don Madge. Man, I've been talking about

1936
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 2: Don Madge. This guy went undefeated in the UFC. I

1937
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 2: guess there must have been some visa issues. I don't

1938
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 2: know why they let him go or what happened there.

1939
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: He never lost in the UFC. I think he had

1940
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 2: two fights and he won them both pretty spectacularly. Dude,

1941
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 2: he's from South Africa. That fucking kid is good, very good,

1942
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 2: especially on the feet. Now he's got a difficult opponent

1943
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 2: in front of him. But like everybody should be keeping

1944
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 2: an eye corner of your eye, keep an eye out

1945
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 2: for Don Madge. That guy can fight.

1946
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that first card, so PFL won. They

1947
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: won me last year, Luke. I like a Wednesday Night

1948
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 1: card here too. I don't hate that at all.

1949
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: F I love the Wednesday Night cards.

1950
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love them all right, Luke, that's right, But

1951
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: some things we say in the microphone each week are

1952
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 1: not only wrong, Luke, Morning Coombat at gmail dot com

1953
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: allows the people that tell us whether we were actually

1954
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: dead wrong. So let's take a chance on these. L's

1955
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 1: see if we'll squat for him. This one's called dead wrong, Okay.

1956
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: On Friday's March eighteenth show, Brian talked about how John Jones'

1957
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 1: first event in the UFC came against the janitor of

1958
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: Vladimir Mattashenko. He's dead wrong, though John's first main event

1959
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: actually came against Brandon Vera in the fight before that.

1960
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,600
Speaker 1: Loved the show, listen to every episode. Only episode I

1961
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: couldn't finish was Luke's live chat a few weeks ago

1962
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: in the new spot.

1963
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it had some issues, but I was gonna say,

1964
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 2: uh that Vera fight was big because Vera was the

1965
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 2: first guy who was like, I'm gonna win two titles

1966
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 2: and light heavyweight and heavyweight. Yeah, he had had some

1967
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 2: great success, had had a little bit of trouble and

1968
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 2: then John absolutely buried that idea. If there ever had

1969
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 2: any life left.

1970
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: Didn't they screw Vera on the cards against Randy Couture

1971
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 1: as well?

1972
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 2: Luke, it was a close one. I don't know if

1973
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 2: they screwed him, but it was definitely pretty close.

1974
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,759
Speaker 1: It was pretty close, all right, Dead wrong number two. Hey, donks,

1975
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: this is Eloy. During Monday's show, you were discussing where

1976
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: this past weekend's card UFC London ranked among all fight nights.

1977
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: Luke brought up the first Fox card with Jdsko ing

1978
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: Velasquez and also said that Benson Anderson thought, yes, you're

1979
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,799
Speaker 1: dead wrong because Bendo fuck Clay Gweeda.

1980
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 2: Yes, someone wrote me in the middle of the week

1981
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 2: being like, you're gonna get dead wrong on Friday. Fair enough?

1982
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 2: Fair enough.

1983
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 1: Also, what did those Argentinians say at the pool that

1984
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 1: made you think we are racist?

1985
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 2: Say, I'll tell you what they said. I'll tell you

1986
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: what they said. And people in South America look the

1987
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 2: other way on this, but to me, it's fucked up.

1988
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 2: And I don't give a ship what the culture is.

1989
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 2: They summoned him over to him to get them drinks

1990
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 2: by referencing his skin color. That's what they said to him,

1991
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: which I thought was and people excuse this ship down there.

1992
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, they'll be like, that's just how we

1993
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 2: talked down here. Fuck that, that's how y'all talk down there,

1994
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 2: because when you're fucking racist, you do not summon a

1995
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 2: working class person over to you to get you drinks

1996
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: by referring to his skin color. Fuck off. I don't

1997
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 2: want to hear that better.

1998
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm not endorsing that at all.

1999
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Speaker 2: Don't, dude. I'm telling you, I bring it up. I

2000
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 2: bring it up to other people who are here who

2001
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 2: are from South America, and they're always like, well, that's

2002
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 2: kind of how we talk. We don't mean it the

2003
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 2: same way. Get the fuck out of here. I don't

2004
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 2: believe that for two seconds.

2005
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: This is from Jordan, who lives in Hawaii. On episode

2006
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: two seventy nine, in discussing Dan Hooker's previous losses, LT

2007
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: mentions Mahachev, Alan Felder, and Puawewei. Not sure if I

2008
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: misunderstood Luke. He may have been referencing the battles that

2009
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: Hooker has fought as opposed to the losses. But he

2010
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 1: seems to think that Dan Hooker lost to Paul Felder,

2011
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 1: when in fact it was a decision win.

2012
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 2: Although although it was a controversial split decision, let's put

2013
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 2: it that way.

2014
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Speaker 1: Mahalo for all of the awesome content. Thank you.

2015
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 2: Jordan's you think they call.

2016
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:32,799
Speaker 1: Him the air Jordan?

2017
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 2: Luke and I don't know. I don't know.

2018
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 1: Finally, Luke, because I'm about to get a uti if

2019
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't find a restroom. Shortly on Wednesday's episode, when

2020
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: Luke and Brian were discussing the Zoo Goche fight, Brian

2021
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: referred to episode one of Star Wars and measuring levels,

2022
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 1: which Luke referred to mitochondria levels. I think what you're

2023
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: referring to is Middichlorian.

2024
01:36:55,479 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 2: Mid Clorian Minchandria is real, which are intelligent in my

2025
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 2: powerhouse of the cell. Right, don't you remember that from

2026
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 2: ninth grade biology?

2027
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mitochandria, as you may remember from biology, are the

2028
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: powerhouse of the cell.

2029
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, there you go, all right.

2030
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Speaker 1: I gotta pee my pants. Thank you fans. Uh. It

2031
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: was a terrible show today, you know, I mean it

2032
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: was low T, but I don't know about terrible terrible, Luke,

2033
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: really terrible.

2034
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't great. It was not our best effort.

2035
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we could just come off last

2036
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: week the maybe the best shows we've ever done, Luke.

2037
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 2: So uh. Also, I've got some combo of ebola and

2038
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 2: AID starts coursing through my veins right now, so.

2039
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably true. All right. Thank you to Athletic Greens,

2040
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Speaker 1: an a g one Luke. Okay, so that's what I'm talking.

2044
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take some right after the show, the.

2045
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Speaker 1: One, the free one year supply of immune supporting Vitamin

2046
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2047
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 1: Tell the bccent you, okay, Luke. Showtime dot com thirty

2048
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 1: days people know that shit as well. Morningcombat dot Store

2049
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 1: like and subscribe. Yeah that's about all I got, Luke,

2050
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: Can you take him out of here?

2051
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 2: Thank you for Malca, CBS Sports, the Big beij one himself.

2052
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas. I'll see y' all on Monday, and

2053
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Speaker 2: until then, may all of your gains be loyal