1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: The planet. Charlomagne the God here to bring you a 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: brand new podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network with 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: the Holidays. Here the Breakfast Club is gonna take a 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: little break, but don't worry. I got you, Okay. These 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: are my old g's right here. The Gangster Chronicles Podcast 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: still Mob James and the Good Brother mca Man. They 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: got conversations with everybody from gangsters, leice officers, bank robbers, rappers, politicians, 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: former drug dealers, whatever they got it. They're just giving 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: you a glimpse into the world of those that live 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: their lives outside of societies normals. Make sure you listen 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: to the Gangster Chronicles podcast on the Black Effect or 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts worldwide. Why from the streets 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: to Thegether across the usc Compton watch Thank the La 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Come on the California Valley. I resent that call of County. 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: So if you're keeping it rail on your side of 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: your town, you tune into Gangster Chronicles. Goals. Were gonna 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: tell you how we go if I lie my notes 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: a birl like Pinocchio, We're gonna tell you the truth 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: and nothing but the truth than chronicals. This is not 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: your average show. You're now tuned into the Reil mc eight, 21 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: Big James and Fixed Fails the Streets. Hello from hood 22 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: to hood, our backyard to yours. We would like to 23 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: welcome you to another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: with James McDonald mc eight, myself Norm Steel. You can 25 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: listen to us on the iHeart Apple iPhone users go 26 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: to the Apple podcast app, subscribe, drop that five star 27 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: rating and leave a comment. We had the privilege of 28 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: having a pioneer in the building the night he stepped 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: on the scene in nineteen eighty three and has been 30 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: a fixture in the game since then. Were twin two 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: solo albums, nine platinum and gold plaques under this belt. 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: The respect of his pierced North, South, East and West. 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: He is arguably the most successful rapper of all time. 34 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah Bitch has definitely made him rich, with a fan 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: base that developed by slinging mixtapes to the Pence players 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: and hustlers in the streets to cocaine rich Oakland, California, 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: known as the City of Dope. His career took flight 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: when he linked up with Jerry Hodges, the younger brother 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: of Oaktown Ballertier Hodges, owner of seventy five Girls Records. 40 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: So Jerry basically was like, yeah, you know, my brother 41 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: owned a record label and everybody knew who his brother was. 42 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: His brother ride by it, sitting there every day, riding by. 43 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: It's nineteen eighty five nigga Zi by the nineteen eighty 44 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: five bins. You know what I'm saying, Come back down 45 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: the hill, the brand new catalac Last backed up in 46 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: a different colored catalec. We're like, okay, we know what 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: that nigga is. You know, he got the he got 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: the curl sometimes, you know, like ride around with the 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: colored rollers in his airy yeah, yeah, yeah, But sometimes 50 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: he just laid it down and he'd just be wavy 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: on you like that. That's that nigga. But he was 52 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: a lot of niggas that's big time you could connect 53 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: into something, you like. They that stay boys, that's what they. 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: He wasn't. He wasn't a nigga like that. The Dean 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: was a nigga who came up selling U. He made 56 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: all his little cousins road joints for him and he'd 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: get a big ass bag of we like Appolaw or 58 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: some nigga like twelve years old and make all his 59 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: little cousins road joints, and there was a joints they 60 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: sold joints after the projects. He turned that into a 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: motherfucking empire of his own ship. But the plug he 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: would fuck with, he wasn't really like the mob. He 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: just was a nigga who had clientele, like like his 64 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: clientele was like his clientele wasn't like you come to him, 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: you meet him where he said me meeting me. He 66 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: wasn't like running the organization, wasn't no staff and that, 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: and he was just a baller so and he only 68 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: sold like big shit. So Jerry take me up there 69 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: to meet his brother. You know, he kind of he 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: tried up to the left a little bit for a minute, 71 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: and then we doubled back again, like we never would 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: have got in if it wasn't for a little broth, 73 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: Like that's a little brother, same, I'm the same, daddy, 74 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: and Jerry get us up in there. That shit, just 75 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: that seventy five girls changed my old entire fucking life, 76 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: Like getting around Dean, getting around that hustle. He was 77 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: a real fucking player, player player, like like real player, 78 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: fucking this kind of nigga that, um, you find a 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: stack of pictures. It's like naked pictures of all the 80 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: bitches that you wish you had from all over the city, 81 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: like dang like, So that's that nigga. So he basically, um, 82 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: he really gave me that player game. He gave me 83 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: the game on how to make a record. He didn't 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: know how to make a beat that mother couldn't wrap 85 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: him and play instrument. But he he wouldn't made everybody 86 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: teaching the game. How to where you go to make 87 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: the record, who you get to mix it, where do 88 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: you go to get the artwork done in the in 89 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: the fucking album cover, where do you go to get 90 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: the sh master, who who manufactures it, who you take 91 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: it to, the ship it out, the distributor, the fucking 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: and then who you could take it too directly and 93 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: then he go back like a paper round, just pick 94 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: up all the money. And we did that ship for 95 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: two albums and the nigga let me ride side by side. 96 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: We used to we used to put that come down 97 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: in La and bust moves, pull up on niggas like 98 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: ice tea and ship like. He was really like Dean 99 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: was a real fucking player. And in the end it 100 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: was a beautiful thing. Because I come through his little brother. 101 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: His mama ended up being like my mom, and shit, 102 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: fucking it's a family thing. We never signed any contracts. 103 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: So when he it was like a hobby to him, 104 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: and he was like, man, I'm through with y'all. We 105 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: was in a cool position. He gave us the game 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: and let us walk just free, and we just did 107 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: the same thing. He did it all over again. That's 108 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: I saw Nigga in the game. We just duplicated where 109 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: he showed us. We started dangerous music. It's the same 110 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: fucking thing. And probably talked you at you some games, 111 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: I mean olds supposed to do with the youngsters coming up, 112 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: like literally we took like about ten racks man and 113 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: knocked that shit until about three hundred thousand over the summer, 114 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: fucking around with with the with the independent hustle. Yeah, 115 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: so why did you just say that he was doing? 116 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: Was he hot? Was something going on with him? So 117 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: Dan had did it like a little He did like 118 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: a little year in jail in like eighty six. We 119 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: started sucking around eighty five and eighty seven when we 120 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: shut it down, So he did like about a year. 121 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: He came home from the year, and uh, I felt like, man, like, 122 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: you know you're coming home, yo, yo, hustle kind of 123 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: get a set back a little bit, and you're thinking, 124 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: like ground level, I'm going to build this ship back up. 125 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: He still had all the same plugs. I just feel 126 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: like we was in the way. Man. He was like 127 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: about to get back on his grind and do his 128 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: thing and that music. Shit. We was real dependent, you 129 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: know what I mean. We was real like clinging and 130 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: shit and needed ship. And we all up in the 131 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: nigga house and nigga, let's a little brother and the honey, 132 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: and we came with a lot. I looked back then, 133 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: it was like, damn, bro, you're gonna you're gonna kick 134 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: us out of the game. But when we look back 135 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: on the nigga gave us the game. So yeah, he 136 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: figured he talked to you all. Y'all need to know. 137 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: He was about to get back on his housing. But yeah, yeah, 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: he got mad at me a little bro. I think 139 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: he faked the whole thing. I think he just facted 140 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: to fake like he was mad at us. Like, man, y'all, 141 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: nigga know, fuck out my shit. But were just free 142 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: to go. Man, that's cool. And that was a crucial 143 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: error back then. Man, that's where Oakland parally all that, 144 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: because both cities had major kingpins. Man, what did you 145 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: see as far as Oakland? Man? Whoopers? Did? What impact 146 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: that Craig had one the community up there? Like, well, 147 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm a high school class at eighty four, so I'm 148 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: right there. Eighty four is when somebody, you know, okay, 149 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: look go you got eighty two eighty three. It's a 150 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: whole lot of motherfucker's pulling up in their little bins 151 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: or something. You know, you see like the older niggas, 152 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: and he'd be like da man, niggas. Uh, they'be you know, 153 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: free basing and ship man. You know, motherfucker he can say, yeah, 154 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, me and my bitch we'd be smoking. Man. 155 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: I was I'm smuggling cup. Mother fucker was talking about 156 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: that shit like it was ballish it. So you're sitting 157 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: there going that. So you're looking at You're looking at you. 158 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: Nigga's saying free base and you're looking at free base 159 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: and it's like a fly thing in nineteen eighty two 160 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: eighty three. So one day in eighty four, somebody goes 161 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: on such and such block, they saw this ship. You 162 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: you can just get a piece of that ship in 163 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: free base for ten dollars. So that's how the ship 164 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: was like marketed at first, and motherfucker's flocked to that ship. 165 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: They ran so high school class at eighty four. Niggas 166 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: is like, if you got a few thousand, you're doing good. 167 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: You're doing good. You you're cool. You you got a 168 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: little car, you put some rams on your ship. You 169 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: got a little bit, and your ship you keep. You 170 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: keep a fucking rubber band with a hunting on top, 171 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: looking like somebody and shit. And you know, niggas respecting 172 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: that your hustle. You keep a few thousands and shoe 173 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: box on the bed. You're good. So that's that's that's 174 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: when that's so nigga. Right, you got a cool little car, 175 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: you spent like twenty five hundred, only puts some wheels on. 176 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: You gotta pay, you cool, got an earl shop, pain job, 177 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: whatever the fuck? You cool. Niggas like respecting your your 178 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: young hustle. Right after that, I remember just off one 179 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: block like ninety nine and Plymouth. So many niggas got 180 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: rich off that one block. And I'm not talking about 181 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: niggas making a few hundred. Thought the niggas got rich, 182 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: and then it just just everywhere there used to be 183 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: a they used to sell Harold when they used some 184 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: motherfucking sell weed. It was whatever. All them ships turned 185 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: out to be fucking cracked form. I member. Some niggas 186 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: opened up shopping an apartments when it start getting real. 187 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: That had the two apartments where you could just you know, 188 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: come into gaateness. It's only one, you know, one way in, 189 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: one way up sh They love that. Man. Niggas got 190 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: that ship popping. The other niggas showed up, not a 191 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: few niggas down. That's when the ship started. It's just 192 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: it just it was like give me your shit, y'all 193 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: ain't even tough en if they had to give me 194 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: your give me your apartments, like it just boosted every time. 195 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: Then I'm high high schools the money for yeah, cat 196 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: just hanging on the block. Man if I didn't go 197 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: to school, and shit, fuck school, n I really I'm 198 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: shulling due. That was the way to get it. But 199 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: that shit turned into like like before that, it was 200 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: like some put them up ship. Look you know, let's 201 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: sling it out or whatever. After that it was like 202 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: little niggas like this little nigga, you know, be a 203 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: little nigga like that nigga was a marketing high school. 204 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: That nigga was like a boss after that crack because 205 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: he got so much money and had a little army 206 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: and shit like that. Nigga. It's a boss now and 207 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: nigga get you hurt, you know, and it's still going 208 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: on today. Money gives some nigga certain courage. But it 209 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: was a long run of a lot of different roles before, 210 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, the fucking clips and the fullies and ship, 211 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: the whole different run of like street life that wasn't 212 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: crack crack, fuck up in the fuck up poor a 213 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: little liquor and roll something up. Still Chronicles, We'll be 214 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: right back where are you at? This is og Gangster 215 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: Granny and the Gangster Chronicles podcast is back in effect, 216 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: getting ready for some of that g ship and blaze up. 217 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: Some wanna marrow like everything. Let me ask you this, um, 218 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: and this is mostly for eight chances for you too too. 219 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: What's the difference? You think it hit each city different, 220 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: like you think it hit comp in the same way. James, 221 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: It's different, but you got the same results. It hit 222 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: everything was. Everything is gonna be different because the way 223 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: they got down in Oakland, the way you getting down 224 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: in Chicago is totally different. The way they wrap their ship, 225 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: the way they sell it. Um. Like in Compton, you 226 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: had thirty month fuckers like on the block, but they 227 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: was all homies. Everybody was like this at the beginning. 228 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: Let's get a year in, eight months in it. Now 229 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: everybody fell apart, and now we're fighting over that block 230 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: in that block. So and then you get the same 231 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: thing in Open you got the same fucking effect. Now 232 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: there's over territory. You know what I'm saying. But the 233 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: cold part is, you know some something got out of 234 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: it because they couldn't deal with it. Like you said, 235 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: the marketing at school. Now he got the money. Now 236 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: I needed to shot caller. You had a whole bunch 237 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: of them in the neighborhood. You know, them was the 238 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: good boys, and the good boys always made the motherfucking 239 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: money man. But you can't be mad at that motherfucker 240 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: because you got the game. Bangers ain't trying to do that. 241 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: They're trying to game back. They ain't focused like the 242 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: next nigga was. So it's it's all pretty much the 243 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: same way y'all have the conflict of interest in La 244 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: was the the legga fell the hood who got too rich. 245 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean you had your you had your 246 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: certain niggas, like you said, certain niggas was hustlers like 247 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: a motherfucker. Certain neighborhoods. Every it seemed like every hood, 248 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, Compton or whatever, watch La. Every hood had 249 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: a couple of niggas who just had the sack that 250 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: was just real, you know. And then you just had 251 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: a couple of niggas like you said, James, it was 252 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: a few of us. That was ten niggas on the 253 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: block trying to rush the same car this week week. Yeah, 254 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: so it just had it had the same hustle, the hustler. 255 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: I had a honey one who was doing it was 256 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: it was real big and he felt all the way 257 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: to fuck off. Just bad luck, bad luck, bad luck, 258 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: and the niggas like and he was like went the 259 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: trenches with the motherfucking hoodie and the dressing all black 260 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: and shit. Fuck now this nigga went buddy, got it. 261 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: Somebody giving the kilo nigga and so that ship he 262 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: sold a few kilos and all fucking rocks for until 263 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: he contill. He got money again. Nigga just went he 264 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: went back from being he dropped his whole baller status. 265 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: It would be a coner nigga again. But he did 266 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: it in a ball away instead of like building his 267 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: way up. He wouldn't got somebody front of the whole thing, 268 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: family member whatever, and he just chipped away and just 269 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: sit some of our some of our old gs. You 270 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: gotta get back. That came that mentality to stay low key. 271 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: You know, I've seen lots of dudes from my neighborhood 272 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: and then Compton whatever who didn't play that. You know, 273 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: you knew the niggas was ballers and the motherfucker, but 274 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: they kind of went low key with the floss. You 275 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying was talking about pocket change too. 276 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: Niggas is cool. Let me go set up the block 277 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: for two days and they're just pulling up and motherfucking 278 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: pintos and ship motherfucking work shirts on and shit like that. 279 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: That's even like the music buness. Like when when y'all 280 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: started rapping, you didn't see too many brothers in Compton 281 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: La juried out, and then when they started shitting, everybody 282 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: had to do. Yeah, definitely, you know, and that's all 283 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: it is. It's the fucking train. And everybody said, fucking like, 284 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: you see that motherfucker roll with the rims on this ship. Oh, 285 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: I got to go get that, but I'm gonna do 286 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: something different exactly. And that's how they was getting the biggest, 287 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: fattest motherfuckers had the baddest bitches. The niggas would not 288 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: do one thing that they should have did. And you 289 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: can't you know, hindsight whatever, but man, motherfuckers should have 290 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: watched that money up, and nobody wanted to do it. 291 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: I remember it being out there because it was so 292 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: much money out there, my fucker. I remember hearing the 293 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: talk motherfuckers like you can give your money to sell. 294 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: And so some clean cut motherfucker who had a plan 295 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: and he was like, give me your money and I'll 296 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: give you half your money back legitimately set up in 297 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: like businesses and ship in the bank, and niggas like, Nick, 298 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a mean, I was gonna give 299 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: me five hundy. Fuck you, Yeah, the nigga would have 300 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: did that. If you would have did that, you could 301 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: have been we we go to the shoe box with 302 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: the ship and say, but you could have played the 303 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: long version better any day. Exactly. The white boys, we didn't. 304 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: We wasn't taught a lot of that ship, you know, 305 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: the white boy game with the with the going there meet. 306 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: A lot of us was just taught to just stack 307 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: the bread, stacked the bread, stacked the bread, because it 308 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: was straight and only one way exactly. I think, like 309 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: shut said, it was a man who came to him 310 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: offer them the opportunity to wash their ship. And I 311 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: think sometimes man niggas just had they mean if collectively, 312 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: if all these cities in America that got ate up 313 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: by crack would have fucking infested the crack money back 314 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: in the community, which might have been the way we 315 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: see other ethnic groups take dirty in Oakland. Because let's 316 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: go back like seventy five girls, I'm talking about buying 317 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: up all the buildings on the main street. I'm talking 318 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: about buying all the houses on yo block. That type. 319 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: She was some people that did and I ain't gonna 320 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: say the dude's name. One brother did do it. They 321 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: still washed them. Because I've been back then. You gotta 322 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: figure out shit, everything was set up in design for 323 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: you to not succeed anyway as a black man. Whatever 324 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: your ship was, and you know how hard they came 325 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: down on niggas who were serving and ship. Motherfucker, they 326 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: get your ass A thousand years and ship so real. 327 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: It's about a brother still balked up. Yeah, let's go 328 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: this seventy five girls eres over with. Now you bump 329 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: up to another dude, Yeah, that's that's the next level. 330 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: So we come out the situation with Deans, me and 331 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: his little brother. We bring home his first cousin, Randy, 332 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: and we go looking around through West Oakland and East 333 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Oakland trying to find one of these big ballers because 334 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: now we got the Finland we like. It. Ain't like 335 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: when I pulled up on Dean, I didn't know shit, 336 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: and I'm learning shit. Now we know how to flip 337 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: this ship. All we need now is the money. So 338 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm pulling up on dudes that I've been selling tapes 339 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: to for years. Motherfucker's no I put a real record out. 340 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: They know you know it's next level. So I'm like, 341 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: bron this this shit It flipped real easy. But it's 342 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven and the numbers. I'm saying, when you're 343 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: telling the nigga, I can show you how we can 344 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: hit a quick one hundred thousand, quick two and thousand. 345 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: That's just sound like peanuts and them, and it's like 346 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: they're laughing at me and shit, like nigga, you know 347 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: how much I quick? I make two undred thousand and 348 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: they got I go flip that ship in tomorrow and 349 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, my nigga went, so I'm getting. I'm like, 350 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: it's like I'm going from bank to bank and niggas, 351 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: It's like, now I don't want to dude, I don't 352 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: want to do it like homies too, like motherfulies. I 353 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: consider homies is like like, nah, it's a game was 354 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: too new for him and Ship it's like that new product. 355 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: And show Ted had a he had one of his 356 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: dudes and his crew was named Ali and he was 357 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: like one of them loud motherfuckers, you know, just out 358 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: talking and out laugh for you and out how shit 359 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: talk you and just just one of them motherfuckers. And 360 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: he was like the hype man. And I wouldn't there 361 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: when it went down, but they said after how that 362 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: tied me and tied was real cool. Through the through 363 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: the tape hustle and ship and just you know, selling 364 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: customer tapes and you know what I'm saying he was 365 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: he was supporting the two short Freddie B movement and 366 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: then um um Chid was like, nah, I'm cool. And 367 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: then we left, and he said Ali went into his 368 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: the whole yelling and screaming ships like they that man's 369 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: too short or something. You know, if you knew him, 370 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: you know when I'm loud, motherfuckers to just be like 371 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: like fuck, you gotta do that shit, and talked him 372 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: into it. So you know, he came back and I 373 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: always say this that he agreed to spend like like 374 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: a few geez like just to get studio time and 375 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: get you know, get the ship going. And then at 376 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: some point there I don't know if the music or 377 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: the hustle or what it was, he just without saying 378 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: all right, man, I'm gonna spend teen or I'm gonna 379 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: spend fifteen or whatever, he just started taking care of 380 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: the movement. So you eighteen niggas moving every day, were 381 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: hustling and shit. But this nigga feeding all these niggas 382 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: his niggas. He like, we ain't feel to be riding 383 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: around fol deep in the car, so he pull out 384 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: four cars all for his car. You drive that we 385 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: got lights and drive albums. So we're riding around in 386 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: the caravan and the niggas like really making it look right. 387 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't just it wasn't just like I'm gonna put 388 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: your in the studio. And he was making a nigga 389 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: look right like nigga when I own a Borning the 390 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: Mac album cover, Nigga like sitting in his car. Put 391 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: all this jury on nigga, let's sell it. So that's 392 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: what that was. And then we go to a show. 393 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: We're pulling up mob deep fly ass cars. You know, 394 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: niggas is singing that ship going all that shorten them. 395 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: So we set us, we set the standard to a 396 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: certain level and we kept it there and then you know, 397 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: it was it was just like that. The money start 398 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: coming in. We got more fly Ass cards and we 399 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: just we had that look. So you know, I put 400 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: that on Tid that he made the whole Born to Mac. 401 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: We got we got to deal with drive off, Boring 402 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: to Mac. He made that whole Born to Mac movement. 403 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: Like look, real fly and the niggas you know, at 404 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: the time coming out of like nineteen eighty five eighty six, 405 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: being around Dean Hodges and Dean's house. Dean was the 406 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of nigga who he got a big ass bank 407 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: roll on this sock. He got a bag of heroin 408 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: in this sock. He got some cocaine powder on this side. 409 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: He got some cocaine rocks in this sock. He given 410 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: everybody to come in the house what they want. He's 411 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: given all the bitches what they want, all the little 412 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: It's like ballplayers, professional ballplayers coming up. He got to 413 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, he he's sitting down. You get to hang 414 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: out with Dean. The bitches in the living room in 415 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: the panting. But the bitch come walking up the hallway. 416 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Titty's out. She's just walked back to the back of you, 417 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: like damn. You know, he's a nigga. But everything's there, 418 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: like soon as you come in, the cocaine is on 419 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: the everything free. It's a big ass box of weed 420 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: under the under the seat in the living room, under 421 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: the chair. It's just everything's just like just just grabbing 422 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: some papers, roll you're joining, put some powder up in 423 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: and take your line and walk back to the bank. 424 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: Was it was that in the studio the cocaine trade 425 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: sat on the board at all times. He kept these 426 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: old school musician niggas. They love that shit. This nigga 427 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: over there whipping his in a little jar, hitting the 428 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: fucking pipe in front of everybody. They this brought over 429 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: here snorting eighty five lines. And you know what I'm saying. 430 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: But how you working around? Now? I'm nineteen years old, nigga. 431 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: That shit was fun. I found myself in the movie. 432 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: I was. I was looking at the movie writing about it. Now. 433 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: In the Mother you see it, there was some ball 434 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: of ship. Back then, we wouldn't look see. We didn't 435 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: know the effects of crack until the fine brawls that 436 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: was walking down the street that you said used to 437 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: be and turning the monster. He turned the monsters. We 438 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: didn't know what the effects. It was just like some 439 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: baller ship because the ball is back in marked they 440 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: smoked premoles. Yeah, so we're doing that. We're crunching up 441 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: the little rocket and ship and playing around. So that's 442 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: how I was getting too. So two years of like 443 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: in that lifestyle. Then I get with ed Bohannan crew. 444 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: And then niggas is them niggas that go somewhere and 445 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: pick up like a thing. And then after they finished 446 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: putting it here and there, it's all this leftover shit 447 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: dusts everywhere, and that I'm like the ship that they 448 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: would these niggas will washed down the sink and some 449 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: ship that the other niggas will party on all night 450 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: and then niggas be like they've they've done. They got 451 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: the properties back that they thought all this shit down 452 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: the sink, just like they weren't that nigga they were 453 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: smoke weed, but they was like they wasn't getting too drunk. 454 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: They wouldn't. They wouldn't getting different mentality niggas if you 455 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: if you as a snorter or any of that shit, 456 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: they'd be like, but I don't even hang around us. 457 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: They didn't like that shit. They just they despised that 458 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: whole little usage of cocaine. So around them, I've seen 459 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be the eyeball or be like the 460 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: goofball nigga and just and be like I'm the user 461 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: in the crew. I'll just cut that shit out of 462 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: my life all the one on one and shouldn't let 463 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: it go fuck it. I remember I started sucking with 464 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: ten and then at eighty seven, and uh, I just 465 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: kind of like just shook all that ship because that 466 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: ain't how they rolled and then it was um one 467 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: nigga in his crew. My niggah was the only one 468 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: who was loud and clear in front of everybody. Blah 469 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: blah blah. He still he's tell storing the ship and 470 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: he lied with it and just everything. But the boss 471 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: he got money so he could do that. And then 472 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: I went to his house to watch the super Bowl 473 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight. I will never forget this fucking day. 474 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: A whole crew over there. We watched the super Bowl. 475 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: I Chris at his house. He was being a little 476 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: more loose with it, and he was a higher up 477 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: in the crew, so he wasn't really like being judged 478 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: by the rest of him. That was just his style. 479 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: So I like, I'm gonna hint this ship. I took 480 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: a one on one and ain't got the sweating. I ain't. 481 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: I ain't touched the ship probably like eight months or something. 482 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: I got the sweating. I ain't telling nobody what I 483 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: was going through. I went in the bathroom. Now, nigga 484 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: sweating buckets. I'm looking in the mirror like fuck like, like, nigga, 485 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: what the fuck does this do? Like now, Nigga, like 486 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: on the toilet with the toilet see clubs like, like, fuck, 487 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, didn't they gonna end up 488 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: in his motherfucker like you know that that prairie Like, God, 489 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: let me get through this shit. I'm thinking, I'm thinking 490 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: my heart going wrong, all kind of shit. I come 491 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: out that bathroom. You couldn't give me no cocaine for 492 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: fucking twenty years after that, I like, fuck all that 493 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: shit that was. That was my lesson learning I was 494 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: I was cool? Was one of them hot doses, man, 495 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: you know exactly. That was cure. I have no idea 496 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: but that that that was enough for me. Just getting 497 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: around and conditioning of some players and ballers. That was 498 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: that that look down on that lifestyle and then and 499 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: then hitting it back again and hell no like that. 500 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: That's see you're talking about some not only legendary deep boys, 501 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: but seeing Nicks wound up being the one that put 502 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: all yuck in them. Yeah, exactly, putting up down the 503 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: loom for everybody here. And I can see that. You know, 504 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: you say he was a little bit more outspoken. I'm saying, yeah, 505 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: Chris was loud while he had the long ass hair 506 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: and the like it was why yeah, man, So y'all 507 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: out there on smash pretty much. No, man, y'all got 508 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: the thing going because I know it didn't hit that 509 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: lake vrp ricords. They had to take everything because you 510 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: know I talk and that's what he talked about. You said, Man, 511 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: I remember short and I'm just to come on here 512 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: with a thowsand tapes, and we bought all thoughs and 513 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: the motherfuckers and he'd be up the road somewhere. Was 514 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: just trump like, like just you knew the people you 515 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: could drop them off with, come back and get it later. 516 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: You knew the people that would just buy them out right, 517 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: And then I knew the little one stops that are 518 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: shipping out to the other stories of people I didn't know. 519 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: We just knew that managed to literally brod I ain't 520 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: gonna life. I had nothing to go on on how 521 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: to run this business except drug dealing. So basically we 522 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: looked at everything like it was the cop you flipped 523 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: the ship. You make your profit, you save your real money, 524 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: you flipped the ship. That's how I didn't even know 525 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: how to think about the ship any other way. And 526 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: literally that's what we did. We we just was selling dope. 527 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: I haven't called the ship dopee music. It was that 528 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: that was this mentality because there was a lot of 529 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: dude who was out the trunk back and then even 530 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: down here. Yeah, I say the Todd and Spade and 531 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: all in. We had a few dudes no matter how much, 532 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: no matter how much motherfucking money I made off music 533 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: and I was getting it. I was never the nigga 534 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: in the crew, you know, the niggas with the money. 535 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: I would never got up where they was at. Never 536 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: they had too much shit that so man, so y'all 537 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: rolling up, Man, I want you to go back to 538 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: that exact moment, man, when we shot Rickards called, y'all 539 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: want to know how you know, how was you feeling? 540 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: Man like? Job wasn't really like. It wasn't like niggas 541 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: was jumping for joy and like happy because of the 542 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: label called It's nineteen eighty eight. When I got the 543 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: call from Job, we've been running this boy to Mac, 544 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm about I'm about to put another album together. I was. 545 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: I was about to put the life It's too Short 546 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: together and just keep doing what I do. And Chide 547 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: called and it wasn't It was never about the money 548 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: they was offering. It was it wasn't even about a 549 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: label deal. It was really like, I'm like, Okay, these 550 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: are the motherfuckers that put out Kumo D, Whodini who else? 551 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: They ahead at the time, because that was enough right 552 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: there for me though, because Kumo D was top dog, 553 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 1: that Kumodi was top dog and who then he got 554 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: a damn right when they signed me. They signed they 555 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: signed Bookie Down Productions, they signed me, they signed will Smith, 556 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: French Prince, and they was you know, they were just 557 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: into it. It was it was going there, you know. 558 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: So I'm like, and I think it was a good choice. 559 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of the good artists back then. 560 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: Jibe was it was the right type of label for 561 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: what I was doing because they wasn't really like Death 562 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: Jam was like no at all, Like I would have 563 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: went over to death Jam signed up and rust on 564 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: them would have probably been manipulating me to pushing me 565 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: in a certain direction and convince me because they know 566 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: more than me, like do this, do that, and they'd 567 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: have made a nigga like like be some kind of 568 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: superstar and some ship. And I was like, nah, nigga, 569 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm a nigga that to do a show for twenty 570 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: five thousand people and walk right the fuck off the 571 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: stage into the crowd. Now not back to the backstage, 572 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: right to the motherfuck crowd and start working with the 573 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: people in the crowd and don't give a fuck, Like 574 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: literally walked through the whole Damn Marina and death Jam 575 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't let me. They wouldn't let me do that thing. 576 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: Deaf Jam is like, you gotta have you gotta be 577 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: a superstar, you gotta be, can't be, you know, would 578 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: over project, They like, you want to be a pimp, 579 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna make you super pimp and some ship. But 580 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: I was stous and extras speaking of the pimp and left. 581 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: Apart from that, man, I got ask as I always 582 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, you were ever really a fucking 583 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: pen So the dream was, you know, your parents would 584 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: be like, I need you to go do something productive 585 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: in the world, and then you're rebelling with the hip 586 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: hop shit, nobody believing that the ship gonna work. So 587 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: my backup plan was always I think I could break 588 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: a home. I think I could do this shit, so 589 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: I never had to do it out of necessity. But 590 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: later in life, shit just start happening. Man, like my homies, 591 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: who really pimp and that I've been hanging around my 592 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: whole life. It's funny to them, and some of them 593 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: even would get mad at me for not taking advantage 594 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: because we'd be in a moment and some bit should 595 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: be star struck on too short, But then she's a 596 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: real hole and she'd be hitting like, nigga, what out 597 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: I would? I would, if you know what I'm saying, 598 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 1: And then I just kind of like shake it out. 599 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: They're like, Brad, you fucking up like you could be 600 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: the biggest pimp out here, and I'm like, look at 601 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: if I'm the biggest pimp out here and I'm making 602 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: two short records, I'm going to jail niggah incrimination instantly. 603 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: So I had a little thing that I would do. Man, 604 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: It's just like I just give my my feet wet 605 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. Like I felt like if I had 606 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: to tell a bitch to go Hope for me, then 607 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm doing too much. But if I Hope came to 608 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: me and said I fuck with you and just be 609 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: giving me money, then I'm like, I fucked with you too. 610 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: And I knew how to play the role, and I 611 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: purposely like all the bitches that that got down with 612 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: me for however long they got down. If if they 613 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: think back on it'd be like this motherfucker never did 614 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: used to ask me for the money like a pimp. 615 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: You'd be like, bitch, what you got. I would just 616 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: be like, you know, the moment we see each other, 617 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: you know what, you know what the transaction is. But 618 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna be like, oh that's all 619 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: you got, or I'm just I'm taking it like you 620 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: tell you. They're like, oh shit, break, but then you know, 621 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: I living it's a ten years man. It's it's it's 622 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: differently when when a bitches like a wild cat out there, 623 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: like really on the proud every day, six seven days 624 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: a week and she just getting working. That's that's that's 625 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: a job for you. It sounds like she's doing all 626 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: the work. But I promise you, I promise you. Uh, 627 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: if you had two bitches running routes every day, you 628 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: can't really do much else with your life except tending 629 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: them two bitches, because it's that much of a job 630 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: just keeping them on track. Uh. I mean, Luckily, in 631 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: some situations it's worth it because if you got if 632 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: each one of them brows is making fifteen twenty a 633 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: month and they're giving it all to you and just 634 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: just you and them two brows and phody. Jesus, it's 635 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: a nice, nice lifestyle, you know. So um, I just can't. 636 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: I can't deal with Like, Okay, I go do I 637 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: go do a weekend as concerts. I'm getting, you know, 638 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: ten racks for a club, fifteen twenty for these big 639 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: radio shows. Different ship, and I'm going out like every 640 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: weekend doing something. And then he'll go to bitch, she 641 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: running like five racks a week. But the bitches like 642 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: stressing me the fuck out, like like she got rights 643 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: in my life for what the fuck? Like, bitch, call 644 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: it phoning the money. What you're doing, I'm just sitting there. 645 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: Oh you're just sitting on your ass while I'm out 646 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: here running from the police, like bitch, fuck you. You 647 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like it gets to the 648 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: but she really wanted that. No, they'd be thinking more 649 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: than that. They'd be thinking like they'd be thinking other 650 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: shit too, Like they were like, I'm a whole for 651 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: two years and then this They're gonna marry me, I 652 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: have a family. They'd be thinking all kind of shit, 653 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: like it's always a it's always there's always a goal 654 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: at the end. You ain't even gonna get her a 655 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: whole right, If you don't get her a goal, there's 656 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: gotta be a goal. So I just learned that man 657 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: that that old fucking therapist shit, and then fucking four 658 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: in the morning call with a drunk, crazy bitch talking 659 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: shit ain't worth it ain't worth the bitch coming in 660 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: the door saying, look, I stole the rolex and then 661 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: hit a niggas safe for fifteen thousand. That should make 662 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: you feel good at the moment, but it ain't worth 663 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: it in the long run, when I'm sitting out here 664 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: fucking I got me a jod ass hustle and a 665 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: bitch getting mad and say, uh oh, I've been vice. 666 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: Would like to know what you really do, like bitch, 667 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: the bitch just pushing buttons. But at the same time, 668 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: what if the bitch did go down to the motherfucking's vice, 669 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: like make up some wild ass story. Goddamn change, very 670 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 1: pimp take though, So it was a chance I didn't 671 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: want to take. So like I said, Like I said, 672 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: Like I said, I avoided this shiit skillfully. I h 673 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: some niggas laughed it off, thought it was funny. Other 674 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: niggas was like, Nigga crazy for not indulgent. But I 675 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: think I made the right choice. It wasn't It wasn't 676 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do full time, so I couldn't 677 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: do it part time. At the end of the day, 678 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: you got all these records to what you're talking about, 679 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: you pimping and the broad hand of the vice. They 680 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: could say, oh, we got the mag of the motherfucker. 681 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: You know how they do that. Your story on the 682 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: motherfucking record right there. I was at the NBA All 683 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: Star and this just hole came up to me and 684 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: she was just talking and shit and which she was 685 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: a whole I guess, and she was talking to her 686 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: out of pocket whatever. But the bitch was saying something 687 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: to me about pimping and hoeing, and I just was, 688 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: you know, it's a flyassy fitters whatever. I'm like, I'm like, look, 689 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't you know, I'll be making records and shit, 690 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: I ain't really like out here pimping, no house. And 691 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: she said, what she's like, Nigga, I thought you was 692 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: a color She looked chick out something that lady, guess what, 693 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: this nigga a real pimp. So I went these gangster 694 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: as niggas and this bitch get to like like two 695 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: three sentences into some like disrespectful shit, and niggas is like, bra, 696 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this one time. Man, get that bitch. Man, 697 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: just get her. She was she was hurt, She was hurt, 698 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: her feelings was hurt. That the reality of of of 699 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: what they depict as you as an artist and what 700 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: they hear on the music, it confuses a lot when 701 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: everybody look at it like that, if I'm wrapping the ball, 702 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: killing and beating them up, puckers, this is what reception 703 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: of you is. They feel you live that life. So 704 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with with pimping, part time pimping, or 705 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: or just you know, stagnating in the pimping game. You know, 706 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm there, I got some bitches and it 707 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: is what it is. But I can't live like that. 708 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: The Spice One went on his first tour niggas like Nigga, 709 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: let me said, how gangs you are, honey? When DJ 710 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: Quick on his first two that Nigga had to fight 711 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: every crypt in America. Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's sometimes like 712 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: I said, sometimes the fans will test your motherfucking abilities 713 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: and ship when you I mean you do in certain ways. 714 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: But I could say when we went on tour Um, 715 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: we really didn't get fucked with that much by a 716 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: lot of cats. I mean, you know, whether it was 717 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: crips or bloods or niggas from a lot of different sections. 718 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: First time the NWA went to San Diego, it was 719 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: like a blood thirst. It's like it's nothing but blood's 720 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 1: out here. I mean, shit, the first time we went 721 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: to watch shit. First time I went to motherfucking a 722 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: flagstaff or Phoenix or something like that. Not Phoenix but 723 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: something else. Oh my god. They said, oh my god. 724 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: When I'm talking about nigga cave about the dressing room 725 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: and our asses come down there. We get those stage 726 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: curtain clothes, we got our blue head to toe and shit, 727 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: when I'm talking about they pulled that curtain back and 728 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: it was a motherfucking arena and all we saw was rich. 729 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about girls with red rag belts on and 730 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: borets and combs and everything. I was like, oh my god, God, damn, 731 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: he was paid, got paid everything. They it was cool 732 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: as they still want to bag. Oh they're gonna let 733 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: you perform, and I ain't just telling my blood. It's 734 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: crips to same situation. They're gonna let you perform, but 735 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: as soon as your motherfucking ass get through performing, believe it, 736 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: the niggas at the back door ready because they don't 737 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: want to know. Because you gotta remember this dog, you 738 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: gotta nigga that's sitting at home all day and he 739 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: don't took his bitch to the show with him, right, 740 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: She's sitting around all day talking about whoa but the 741 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: hell of a nigga you wheels, And so he'd go there. 742 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: He about to try to show all the front of 743 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: that bix, like to show you this niggame nigga, Like 744 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: me here rapped nigga, I'm a real nigga. So you know, 745 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: it's a whole bunch of situations like that, you know, 746 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: speaking a gangster ship short, we are called against the chronicles, man. 747 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: So you're going through this period man with these guys. 748 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: Things is going good, man, y'all out there're selling a 749 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: lot of records, man, and then and they selling a 750 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: lot of dope at the same time. A lot of 751 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: dope's being so the same time. So at some point 752 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: y'all have the separation and we were got a good uh, 753 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: we got a good five year run, like from we 754 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: ran from eighty seven to about ninety three. But we 755 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: got a good running and it just, you know, Minutes 756 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: to Society the movie started the end of our little 757 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: click that clicked with Ted bow Hand, and then it 758 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: was it was I don't know if it was just time, 759 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: but then it always we look back on these situations, 760 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: you go, this ship was so small compared to what 761 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: the big picture was. What but I do minutes Society. 762 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: And we got a company together. We run Dangish Music. 763 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: We had a company from partners in the company and 764 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: he got a He got a pretty good return on 765 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: his money because the initial investment, you know, bought him 766 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: in as a partner, and we made a lot of 767 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: money as a company because we started signing other artists too, 768 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: and it was going real good. And we all did 769 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: our part. You know, even even though Ted was in 770 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: the streets, he was truly all the way into the label. 771 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: And we was we made all all decisions. We ran 772 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: this ship and I went to do Minutes to Society. 773 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: And then mind you, we fall out as a crew, 774 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: different members of the crew, we fall out. We whatever 775 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: we all get it back. That's my niggas now. It's 776 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: always been that way. And Chris came down to La. Yeah, 777 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 1: he came down. He uh, he came and sniffed around 778 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: the set and just you know, just pulled up on 779 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: the motherfucking shit and you know, we all good and 780 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: shit and Chris that MINS Society they paid me like 781 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: sixty racks or some shit something like that. And I remember, um, 782 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: I got the check and it was like thirty racks. 783 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: They just took the automatically took the shit out. I 784 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: got a I got a thirty thousand dollars check to 785 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: be in Mins Society. Wasn't really it was the movie. Look, 786 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: it wasn't took the money on. You know, this check 787 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: came to me. It's some shit. I went and did 788 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: as I'm not making music, it was. It was for 789 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: being in the movie. So I'm not making music. That's 790 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: not a part of my music thing. And nothing that 791 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: just went got a little side hustle and did the ship. 792 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: So Chris went back and said that they He told 793 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: Teddy he was like, you know, he did probably did 794 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 1: the hype voice. He didn't love something something and then 795 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: ted hits me up. It was like yeah, man, we 796 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 1: heard you. I got a hundred racks and you know, shit, 797 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: I mean you ain't doing the business right and blah blah. 798 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, that's we We got a music company. 799 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: Like if I if I was to go off and 800 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: be an actor or something, I'm not giving y'all percentages 801 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: that shit. This stop music. So so Ted's my nigga. 802 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: We loved once to this day. We had a long 803 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: fall out, but we loved once to this day. And 804 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: he said to me at some point he said, well, 805 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: fuck it, man, uh just just just send me my check. 806 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: Like like he kind of like tapped out, like I 807 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: don't fuck with y'all on and kind of like tack down. 808 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: It's like, just send me my money. So before I 809 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: could get into that, you know, I'm I got you know, 810 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: we got niggas, got cruis, We got different niggas you 811 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: fucked with all around the city. So I got some 812 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: of the wild bunch of niggas I'll run with who 813 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: I really hang out with, because telling them they was 814 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: always on the safe side of laid back. They didn't 815 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: really like club and a lot and all that. So 816 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: I had my little wild bunch that I run around 817 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: with and I'm like, I'm consulting in my niggas. I'm like, man, 818 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: niggas said, you know, just give him his money. And 819 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: then niggas just kind of fall back and don't really participants. 820 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: So we look at me, look at this shit like 821 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: that's like pimping to me. Like, Nigga, I'm gonna kick 822 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: back at home, go get my money and bring my 823 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: money back, bitch, so let me say. Let me when 824 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: you say give me my money to share the company 825 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: want to He was like, if you're gonna keep your 826 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: hunt down from the movie, which I told him, theiggata 827 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: say they gave me thirty it is my money. Whatever. 828 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: So he said, you're gonna keep the money, then Nigga, 829 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: I ain't fucking blah blah blah. And then I'm like, well, 830 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: damn Bronas always some good. I'm like, man, I can't, like, 831 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: I can't work and pay you a percentage and you're 832 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: not hustling with me. I just guy, can't do that. 833 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: So then the ship it got. It was one little 834 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: gangster moment and now the money at the same time 835 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: my niggas that I'm running with, it gets real complicated. 836 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 1: In like ninety three ninety ninety three. My niggas aren't 837 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: running with are now if involved in a murdered death killed, 838 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: all out war with niggas that's affiliated with tied, so 839 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: tarding them. They tell me one day they like, they like, 840 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: if we see them and you win them, we ain't 841 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: gonna try to miss you. That we all hanging out 842 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: eating eating something, chopping it up, smoking, we we music niggas, 843 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: and and the niggas say, if we see you with them, bron, 844 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: trying to miss it, ain't gonna be no special treatment. 845 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: So it shit start getting real political for me. So 846 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: then when that that part happened, so the party happened 847 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,919 Speaker 1: where he said we just give my money to shit 848 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: just started falling apart. So um E forty did this 849 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: uh yearly picnic out the way out there where they 850 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 1: from Fairfield valeout and we go to the E forty 851 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: picnic and we just happened to like you know, we 852 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: got we got mob d whatever whenever, whenever, whatever. But 853 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: on this day we go out there phone niggas in 854 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: one car and one pistol. So and the pistol was 855 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: my pistol. So I got the little strap on me 856 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 1: had like a little clock on them and then uh, 857 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: we pull up in the park. We weren't even tripping 858 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: on Like did you just always have a strap? We 859 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: wasn't tripping on that. Um we gotta have a strap. 860 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: It wasn't even have thought. But then we pull up 861 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: on a Ted and them at the picnic. It's it's 862 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: a big ass part. It's thousands of motherfuckers out here 863 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: like it's hat and we pull up on ten and 864 00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: them and they worked this little like this little maneuver 865 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: like uh, kind of spread out a little bit, and 866 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 1: these nigga like money niggas and shit, like you got 867 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: the little street niggas and shit, but it's like niggas 868 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: in like money more. We're going to the forty picnic. 869 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: We ain't really like coming to this motherfucker for a 870 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: fighting that knowledge shit. And uh, they start it kind 871 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: of like the approach and shit. They come over me 872 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: and here telling me the whole shit like kind of 873 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: like kind of kind of checking, you know what I mean. 874 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: And I was with one of the homies. Uh he 875 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: was like before we walked the phone and he was like, 876 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 1: give me that strap. So he plot plot and Ted 877 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit and he's like, man, we 878 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: ain't really trying to hear all this shit right now. Man, 879 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 1: nigga ain't gonna give you nothing, and it ain't gonna 880 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: be like that or whatever the fuck and niggas say 881 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: because they was like the niggas is like like up, 882 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: they got angles on it, all kind of shit. And 883 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: niggas say, you could tell these niggas to do anything 884 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: you want to hear. He said all put he showed 885 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,320 Speaker 1: him the strap. He's saying, He saying, all I know 886 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: is I go, fuck what they do of killing you 887 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: out here, and all the niggas stood down. Later we 888 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: went and enjoyed the picnic and nobody had no problem 889 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: with nobody. I think. Later on at the end of 890 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: the picnic, they tried to catch one of my rapper homies, Goldie, 891 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: and and sent him through some dramas and shit chased 892 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: him up out of there or something caught of walking 893 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: to his car. Chasing That's all that happened, and fucking 894 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: um from their own you know. I basically uh tied, 895 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,439 Speaker 1: kind of calmed down a little bit. We talked after 896 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: a while and it was like, you know, brother, it's 897 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: just uh, it's already in the in the contract. We 898 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: got together as partners that we just disaw the company 899 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: and you take your cut and keep it pushing. So 900 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: I had two partners back then, Randy that which was 901 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: Dean's cousin and tied. Jerry had fault. He fell out 902 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: way back, way down the line. We lost Jerry, the 903 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: little brother. We lost him. He didn't he didn't have 904 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: a house. He mad at me right now, love me 905 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: like a brother, but stay mad at me. But the politics. Brother. 906 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: So then I literally just it was probably when I 907 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta, I broke teed off something. You know, 908 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 1: this this the company. I brought Randy off, saving the company, 909 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: and I just changed the whole shit. And I ain't 910 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: looking back since. So it was, you know, it was 911 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: supposed to happen. Now, we could have liked Chris, the 912 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: whole ship, the politics, it could have been without that shit. Man. 913 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: But you know, so pretty much just the average nigga 914 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 1: till a nigga running back talking about some shit you 915 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,439 Speaker 1: don't know, telling somebody something kicked up, a whole bunch 916 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: of dis man. I made way more money. I made 917 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: way more money after that than I did before before 918 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: all that shit. If the best for jet to come. 919 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: They had no idea. I was when they're gonna run 920 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: and they jumped ship. So it's cool she didn't know 921 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: me happening. Carmos a motherfucker. I mean, you know, Nigga 922 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: could have fell off fact of that, or it could 923 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: have been you know whatever. James often we had them conversations, man, 924 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: because it all goes back and this is old step 925 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: and it all goes back to CNAs coming down pretty 926 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: much almost like would intend to just kicking up starting 927 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: some ship. But that kind of was his personality. We 928 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: just wasn't suposed to. It wasn't supposed to get that serious. 929 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: You know. I got on the phone and say, bra 930 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: I really got thirty racks explained to him as money 931 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: could have been like we's getting money from different shit, 932 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: Like it could have been like the thing is this, bro, 933 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: we got a podcast together. Right, If James go out 934 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: there tomorrow and they say, man, we want to book 935 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: you to play this part of the thing, he could 936 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: get the million dollars me and they can't coming him 937 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: like James, Man, what's up? We need to cut of that. 938 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: You know that don't make no sense that what I 939 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: tell you when you shared that if if if they 940 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,439 Speaker 1: take me, they don't take all three, they ain't. I'm 941 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: not talking about I'm saying that sh fuck that ship still. 942 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: If I can't get out of that part, the cold 943 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 1: part of about you. You have what we call clicks, 944 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: the homies kicking it. But then at the end of 945 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: the day, before we get rich, somebody fall off the motherfucker. 946 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: Because now we're thinking, damn, I see this nigga, count 947 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: this money. I went to the bathroom. I know he 948 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: puts him in his pocket. That's how we think right now, 949 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: we're thinking all fucked up. Now if she got I 950 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: wonder if he got more than I got, if he 951 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: got more than I watched that ship with with with 952 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: with Shugar and his company, with all these different motherfuckers 953 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: that was in it, how people was mad on how 954 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: much money they was making and what they wouldn't getting, 955 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: and it fused everything up. We can't work together. That's 956 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: why I tell him, Gangster Chronicle is gonna work together. Brian, 957 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: come to this motherfucker. Now, y'all ain't gotta pay me. 958 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm just working with y'all. But ship, we all fen 959 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: to get the check. We all gonna eat, and we 960 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: don't have to. But the ones that didn't want to 961 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 1: be there work their way out the situation definitely, and 962 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: and it's just like it's a cycle shutting down. So 963 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: when I look back on all this shit, though, I 964 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: go on like runs, like it's just run. We get 965 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: a run, I get a run in with a group 966 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: of people, and we get a bag, and we're on 967 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: that run, and it's gonna come to an end, and 968 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: some of us gonna stay friends for life, and some 969 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: of us gonna forget each other and we're gonna let 970 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: me see each other again, and just we gotta run. 971 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: I could have been it's been so long now. I 972 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: mean I could have been best friends with a motherfucker 973 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: for three years, and from ninety eighty nine to ninety 974 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 1: two we're best friends. I don't even remember that motherfucker 975 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: right now. It's been that. It's been that many places 976 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: and faces and set up shops, and you know what 977 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Real motherfuckers don't come and go like that. 978 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, when they fake and shit, they they they 979 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: gonna come and go. Real motherfuckers should be around. If 980 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: y'all got the same agenda, y'all trying to reach the 981 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: same motherfucking destination. But fake motherfuckers, they just want to 982 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 1: get in. At that point, John jump on a motherfucking 983 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: train and then jump off when there's another, when it's 984 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: a better situation. Let me ask you a question. Short, 985 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be message, we ain't want to 986 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: play the shows, but that situation wouldn't have enough to 987 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: do with the reason why I see you next. You 988 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 1: got the ass with water. See it's all related, but 989 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: it's all related. But what happened after that? So I 990 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta basically because niggas that I knew in 991 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: love was killing the funk out each other and it 992 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: wasn't coming to the end. It was like, really the 993 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: small ass city like just it's like probably like if 994 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: a war was going on in Compton that had nothing 995 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: to do in La and it's like a competent thing. 996 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: It's like a straight East Oakland thing and it's a 997 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,959 Speaker 1: fucking war. And the city is so small you can't 998 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: even really like get gash. You can't you can't use 999 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 1: a phone booth, you can't motherfucking stop by your auntie 1000 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: husse because never everybody know everything, know where the fuck 1001 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: you be. So niggas is getting it like a nigga 1002 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: who you know. You know, the niggas stay on the defense. 1003 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: But somebody walked up to his car and shot him. 1004 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: Who fucking walk up to your car shot you somebody? 1005 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: You fucking know you stay on the defense and niggas 1006 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: just walk up and shoot you in the car. That's 1007 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: somebody you fucking knew that. It started being like that, 1008 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: and it's like I just felt like, I'm like, man, 1009 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: the way this is going, I'm like, because niggas is 1010 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: like niggas in homicide fucking serial killer mode. This niggas 1011 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: out there is like I'm trying to get away with 1012 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: a lot of murders right now. I'm trying to kill 1013 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 1: everybody I don't like. And then they bunch of them 1014 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: niggas is rolling the streets and I'm like, damn, somebody 1015 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 1: I know it's probably gonna kill me, and it's just 1016 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna be like whatever reason, fuck you up because you 1017 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: hang out with them niggas or something. I'm like, man, 1018 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: I signed that land up. I'm like, man, I'm I'm 1019 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,959 Speaker 1: fucking about to go kicking where they're having the party 1020 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: they this ninety three having the freak nigga Jack the 1021 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: rapper Nigga. The police in Oakland is like, wearing me 1022 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 1: the fuck out. I ain't got no license. He nigga, 1023 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: stop me. Every time they see me. They handcuff me, 1024 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 1: searching me, arresting me, releasing me, just fucking with me 1025 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: and fucking I go to Atlanta, the police is like it, 1026 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: what's up, too short? I'm like, nigga killing as harassing 1027 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: as shit. I'm enjoy too. It's like when you go 1028 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: down there, man, it kind of makes you feel good 1029 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: because you go down there, you go to a restaurant, 1030 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: you see a black woman in the kitchen actually making 1031 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: your soul, getting my people. I love everybody, but this 1032 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: is just the soulfus. But it was it was a 1033 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: different look to see that in the nineties. It was 1034 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: just a different just to see everything just black and 1035 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: the police, everybody just just it was black love. So 1036 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: I get down to Atlanta. It's ninety four, the beginning 1037 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 1: that I'm moved to my house, like right at Christmas 1038 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: ninety three. So it's ninety four. I'm in Atlanta and 1039 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: the Looney's who pretty much all the ship that was 1040 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: going down musically either was was inspired by us or 1041 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, somehow you got the game that I the 1042 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: game that I got from Dean. I get a game 1043 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 1: to the whole fucking city. I gave everybody the game 1044 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: on how you fucking this is what you do. You 1045 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: gotta get your shit man, You gotta go get the 1046 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,800 Speaker 1: man faith. You gotta take it over here to sell it. 1047 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: I told everybody the game. If you can get you 1048 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: a rapper, if you can find a deep way with 1049 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 1: some money, I'll show y'all how to do it. Chris 1050 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,240 Speaker 1: did the fucking formula. They all did the fucking formula. 1051 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 1: A whole bunch of niggas. And Chris had brought the 1052 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,760 Speaker 1: looneys around a while ago. Drew Down, his first album 1053 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: was made in my studio by Ant Banks. So I'm like, 1054 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 1: I never got a dime off drew Down album. I 1055 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: never got a dime from a banks for that. I 1056 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 1: never got a dime from studio time. That was the homie. 1057 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: You know you know what I'm saying. That's it was Chris. 1058 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: Artists use the studio ahead. Yeah, banks paid banks and 1059 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: look it up. So the looneys come out with this 1060 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 1: fucking song called player Hater, and the song says it's 1061 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 1: somehow shit about some hater asked motherfucker and be like 1062 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: and it's all I said, that's why the town got 1063 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: rid of short And I'm like, these the little homies. 1064 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all niggas can't say that. And the radio 1065 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: station played it a lot, they put it in rotation. 1066 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: So I had a song I dropped called Cocktails, and 1067 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: Cocktails was getting a lot of love. The video was dope. 1068 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: It was getting love everywhere. All the cities that was 1069 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 1: loving me, Detroit, Chicago, they wouldn't play it. The Bay 1070 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: radio station wouldn't play Cocktails. And I cornered them. I'm like, 1071 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, so, what's the reason why you want to 1072 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: spending They're like, well, you know, we're more into supporting 1073 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 1: the local artists, which was some bullshit there was. I 1074 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: don't know why they turned on me, but it was like, 1075 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,720 Speaker 1: we're more supporting the local artists. And you moved Atlanta, 1076 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 1: so it's kind of like you out of sight, you 1077 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 1: out of mind, and you know it's nothing personal, but 1078 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: we just we just promote the local scene. So that 1079 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: was that was the beginning ninety five. So the Summer 1080 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: Jam ninety five, I'm mad now because they didn't they 1081 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: didn't support my record. The radio station used to call 1082 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: us when they needed some a good look in the community. 1083 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: They call us. They called niggas like me and be like, 1084 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: can you be a part of this event, so the community, 1085 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're down. It's a radio station. Came me 1086 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,799 Speaker 1: on one of six, but they used to be a 1087 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: rock station in the eighties. So when they started doing 1088 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 1: hip hop and ship people, was like still on the 1089 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: other station, cass Oil, and they had to kind of 1090 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: like do some things that win them over. So people 1091 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 1: like me showing up to the events helped them start 1092 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: getting listeners, helped them just get a you know, certified 1093 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: in the hood. So I was mad at they played 1094 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: the song. Then I was mad that they didn't play 1095 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 1: my song. So I pull up to the Summer Jam 1096 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: and fucking um, I just pull up there, you know, 1097 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: and no credentials, nothing, and they like, I performed at 1098 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 1: the previous two summer jams, so they like, we'll give 1099 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: them some passes. They gave me four passes if they 1100 00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 1: fucked around the game. Stick on passes. Every time we 1101 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 1: walked in there, phone niggas every time we walked in there. 1102 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 1: One of the homies went out with the with the 1103 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 1: fall passes and came back in with three new niggas. 1104 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: We did that ship. We got like fifty niggas up 1105 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 1: in there by the time. By the time they realized 1106 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: what we had done that they wanted starting negotiating and 1107 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: ask us we all cool, y'all, like, nigga, we ain't 1108 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 1: leaving back out, like you know what, what what's up? Ain'tyone? 1109 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm calming them down. We ain't here 1110 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: to do nothing. Man, all you gotta do is you 1111 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: got the whole bay area out there. You got to 1112 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 1: walk me and the Loonies out there and tell the 1113 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: motherfucking bay that ain't no motherfucking beef because they turned 1114 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 1: the ship into like like the Loonies was so young 1115 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: and gangster that they literally pulled up on me. Was like, no, 1116 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,919 Speaker 1: you gotta move by to Oakland, nigga like that. That's 1117 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 1: what the That's what the word went that. I was like, 1118 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna fight whatever your rumor is. I'm just 1119 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 1: just standing up and tell the bay that a number 1120 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 1: love between the Loonies and me. Because immediately after the 1121 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 1: ship came out, they was like, man, we was just 1122 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 1: mad and it wasn't even like that because you we 1123 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: thought you was gonna sign us. Or or the day 1124 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: when it was over the rapping one of my little 1125 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: rappers one day and we all hiped it like like 1126 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: the Looney's Loss and rap around in one it was 1127 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: feelings hurt. It was like a lot of shit. So 1128 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: that's the story Chris was saying the day at the 1129 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: summer Jam, he was trying to explain it to us, 1130 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: the story about about how they looked up to me 1131 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: and I heard they feelings and they made the song 1132 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: because it was you know, they was mad. But then 1133 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: one of my homies was in the room that we 1134 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: chopping up, chopping it up with and a lot of 1135 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: niggas don't know that the backstory, but the homie and 1136 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: Chris was fucking the same broad at some point in time, 1137 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 1: and the broad told the broad told the other homie, 1138 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: not Chris. She told the other homie that Chris said, 1139 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, I don't even know why you fuck with 1140 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: them broadcast niggas, or why you're sucking that broadcast nigga, 1141 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, like like he got more money than the 1142 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: nigga pillow talking, which is always be checking some ship 1143 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,919 Speaker 1: when you're sitting there telling the bitch while you're laying 1144 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: sideways something bad about the next nigga. Somehow the ship 1145 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: always get back to the nigga. So so the homie 1146 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: was like Christ's just talking story. We kind of like 1147 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 1: we was trying to work out the thing where we 1148 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: could walk on stage and shit, and the homies just 1149 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: sitting there twitching and ship looking at Chris Child's fucking 1150 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 1: story about the loonies, uh being Phyllis, hurt and ship. 1151 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 1: And then he just yelled out, they ain't about all 1152 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: that fucking shit Chris and just two pieces in the 1153 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: ship and kicked him in. They turned the story and 1154 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: then we jumped him in some ship. But really it 1155 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: was all emotional. The nigga was all he was only 1156 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 1: mad about the bitch and with the bitch said he 1157 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: had been mad about that ship. And I liked the 1158 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: other version of the story because they go out a 1159 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: lot and make it seem so gangious, like we wrote 1160 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: him to the concert, Vintide dragged the nigga, beat him down, 1161 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: and shit did not happen. It didn't have. The radio 1162 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: station tried to um to do a slander campaign on 1163 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 1: me after after the concert, and they tried to say 1164 00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: they put the story out there. We did all this shit, 1165 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: like we came up like like like start a ride, 1166 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 1: and they shut the showdown early. It was supposed to 1167 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 1: be like two more groups that went on. E forty 1168 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: didn't didn't get to go on that night. They tried 1169 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: to start some ship between me and forty. All this shit, 1170 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: all this shit came from the whole. It's all like 1171 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 1: a domino effect. Like literally the reason why me and 1172 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: E forty make a million songs right now to this 1173 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 1: day is because of that concert and that incident and 1174 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: the fact that the radio station tried to turn us 1175 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: against each other. And we've been homing to some motherfucking alone. 1176 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: E forty and his brother and my nigga P and 1177 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: all the niggas from Oakland, the LAO niggas. Oakland niggas 1178 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 1: just all sell dope together and have been family and 1179 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: friends blown before the radio station tried to turn me 1180 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 1: and E forty against each other. They're like a radio 1181 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 1: station tried to try to get into like like the 1182 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,439 Speaker 1: whole other side of like get involved in some street 1183 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: shit and like and canceled me out of some shit 1184 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: they thought they was gonna turn forty on me, and 1185 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,919 Speaker 1: then Forty and his crew they big inside of something. 1186 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 1: They just gonna smash me. I don't know what the 1187 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: fuck they thought. I don't know. And then they thought 1188 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 1: that they was gonna tell people because they the radio 1189 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: station to stop supporting Too Short. But I'm like, I'm like, Nigga, 1190 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 1: even though y'all ain't playing my record, the whole damn 1191 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: Bay Area bought the fucking record and everybody loving the 1192 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: fun album like you can't you can't take a street 1193 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: artist like I don't like ninety two point three to be, 1194 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: couldn't take a street artist and say, la, don't listen 1195 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 1: to this artist no more, like we don't listen to 1196 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 1: this thing because he on a radio, you know what 1197 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I was like, I was like, yo, 1198 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 1: I made songs about that ship on my next album. 1199 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: It's called That's Why the Town Got Rid of Short. 1200 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 1: That's the name of the song. And they tell you 1201 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: the whole fucking story, and I and the story. I 1202 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: told the fucking truth. And literally I put the album 1203 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: out that was was that the fucking getting an album? 1204 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 1: I put the song out of Everybody shut up, nobody 1205 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: starts talking, nobody talking about it no more. It could 1206 01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: nobody dispeat what I said in the story. I put 1207 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 1: everybody's fucking name, and I told the whole goddamn story 1208 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: about the thirty thousand, the movie. It's all in the 1209 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 1: the song, and to this day, nobody can dispute what 1210 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: the fuck happened, like there is no other version of 1211 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 1: the story. And let me ask you this man, And 1212 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: we could wrap it up in a minute, but we're 1213 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 1: sitting there with too short. This is about ask Yeah, 1214 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: you do your research, you go back to shit. I 1215 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: don't even know, you know, because this is against the chronicles. Man. 1216 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: So we got to talk about some stuff that's going 1217 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 1: on now the streets. Man. What do you feel about 1218 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: the political climate now? Man? What's going on with black 1219 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 1: American man? Just in general? All right, well, well he 1220 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: probably not the interrupt, but he kind of spoke on 1221 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier when he said ship the 1222 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 1: police was always fuller, the nigga over and all that. So, 1223 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to kind of elaborate on that 1224 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: shit of how it really ain't nothing changed. But you know, 1225 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: the thing that we're dealing with now is you gotta realize, right, 1226 01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 1: now that from the intro a crack. When you found 1227 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 1: out how Freeway, Freeway Rick was all in that circle 1228 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: of the ship with the fucking war they was funding 1229 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: and the CIA was was letting the dope land in La. 1230 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: You think about that ship, and um, you think about 1231 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: the Dave Ronald Reagan said I declare war on drugs, 1232 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 1: and they came with to just say no. And it 1233 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 1: was like this whole scare tactic campaign about the you know, 1234 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: the scary criminals in the inner cities and shit. So 1235 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 1: then then we got the crack. Now, I know, in 1236 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: nineteen whatever, the fun eighty whatever, when they fucking start 1237 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: free basing cocaine. What, no motherfucking nigga went and spent 1238 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars on some powder and said, she I'm 1239 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 1: a poort this shit into a bottle of water and 1240 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 1: let's set it on fire and make it into a rock. 1241 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: That shit is some chemistry ship. That ship is some 1242 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 1: science ship. And when the crack was economically broken down 1243 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 1: to be affordable in the ghetto, and the ship was 1244 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: given to people like Freeway Rick just you know, like 1245 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 1: just here you free to select man. All that ship 1246 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 1: was one big fucking setup bron The ship was a 1247 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 1: setup to where you know, you know, the gangs I 1248 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: don't even know where wrapped the gags would have winning. 1249 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 1: If it wasn't for crack, they wouldn't they wouldn't have 1250 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 1: turned into crack gangs. Gangs would have been they probably wouldn't, 1251 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I'm saying, They wouldn't 1252 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 1: have been with it what it is, and then bring 1253 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 1: it out so that all of a sudden we like 1254 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 1: eighty four eighty five is crack. Thing is jumping off 1255 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: and a couple of years into that ship, now if 1256 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: you got a rock and a fucking gun, they really 1257 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 1: put you away for a hell along, you know what 1258 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then then they you know, the whole 1259 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: ship with the powder and ship and they you know, 1260 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: the white waves, it's just song out of powder and ship, 1261 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: and they like ain't really stressing them out at all. 1262 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 1: But you can get caught with a gun. It's some 1263 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,919 Speaker 1: powder and you don't get eight thousand years in jail. 1264 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: But if you got a fucking rocking again, your asses out. 1265 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: And and then not only so, so not only was 1266 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: setting all these these situations up for you to get 1267 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 1: fucked off they was purposely pressing the line in the hood. 1268 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: So only mostly like on our side, Mexicans and niggas 1269 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 1: got it, you know what I'm saying. On the other side, 1270 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans and niggas got you know what I'm saying. 1271 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't They wasn't pressing the line to bust people 1272 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: in the suburbs. It was only fucking with the hood. 1273 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 1: But the city like Oakland, was signed up for the 1274 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 1: program on the War on crime. So if you if 1275 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 1: you bust so many people and convict so many people, 1276 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 1: we'll send you more weapons, We'll send you more budget, 1277 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: we'll send you more cars. Like you know what I'm saying. 1278 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: So they had incentive policing to get the numbers up 1279 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 1: because they want the good numbers for the war on crime. 1280 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 1: So now they're setting up all these fucking laws. We're 1281 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,479 Speaker 1: in a fucking trap fighting over the hood. We ain't 1282 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: buying the hood. We're killing each other over the block. 1283 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 1: And niggas is just like just we ushered in a 1284 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: whole new era of slavery, modern day slavery, the mass incarceration. 1285 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 1: They locked us the fuck up. They locked all our 1286 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: homies up. Nigga, if your homie got a cold case. 1287 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: He wasn't too much different than the homie that got murdered. 1288 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 1: You're like, damn, I ain't finn to see the homie 1289 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 1: no mog gon. And in nineteen eighty the stats or 1290 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 1: something like well, Ronald Reagan said war on Crime, it 1291 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 1: was probably like five hundred thousand people in American jails prisons. 1292 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 1: Now it's like over two millions. And all the motherfuckers 1293 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 1: came from the hood, a whole bunch of blacks and Hispanics, 1294 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: and basically they just like they just they just out 1295 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 1: tricked us. Bro. We run around here talking a thug 1296 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 1: life and shit, and we could have been we could 1297 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 1: have been like the Italian mafia trying our damn this 1298 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 1: to be drug dealers and pretend not to be cleaning 1299 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 1: that shut up and around. You know what I'm saying. 1300 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: We just we We wrote it out and fucking I 1301 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 1: want the young homies to know right now that if 1302 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 1: you're calling it the spot where you sell dope, the 1303 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 1: trap nigga, just listen to the word. It's a fucking trap. 1304 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 1: Like I've seen too many niggas, too many motherfuckers die 1305 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 1: or get all their youth taken away for that trap 1306 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: and you're sitting there going on there, I mean the trap. 1307 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 1: You're ragging about the trap like we some of us 1308 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 1: got out exactly, we didn't get the motherfucking twenty years sitties. 1309 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: If you ask me, it was all just designed. It's 1310 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: a setup, That's all I'm saying right now. It's a setup. 1311 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 1: And we the motherfuckers. If you're from the eighties, you're 1312 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: the motherfucking generation that got set the fuck up the 1313 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: guinea pigs the first one. But how long is you 1314 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 1: gonna keep falling for the fact that, uh, you know, 1315 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 1: the ship that's gonna get you all that time in jail. 1316 01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: You know. Let me ask you this because I always 1317 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: to me James talk about voting. James has a certain 1318 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 1: feeling of both votes. Do you feel like this a 1319 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 1: voice of time? I feel that shit too, dog? What 1320 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 1: does it do? I mean, if you really look at 1321 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: vote or not, I can't paign for the cause and 1322 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: I support certain ship when I'm like, if I'm like 1323 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 1: not feeling a certain thing a certain candidate, support the 1324 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:29,519 Speaker 1: other motherfucker and by doing benefit performances or or a 1325 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 1: fucking path. What do you feel about this presidential but 1326 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, you can even you can't 1327 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 1: even include Obama's to two terms. I'm feeling like, man, 1328 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 1: my whole life, I ain't. I ain't seen nothing from 1329 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:52,759 Speaker 1: the presidents except the same exact thing. But it's democratic Republican, 1330 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,639 Speaker 1: it's not. It ain't nobody coming through with the campaign 1331 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: premises and making shit fucking happen. So motherfuckers need to 1332 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 1: stop ripping off of who the fucking president is and 1333 01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,960 Speaker 1: start worrying about who the motherfucker's creating the laws that 1334 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 1: fuck with a lot of us. That's what the sent 1335 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:13,600 Speaker 1: is important. Local politics exactly, like the local politics and 1336 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 1: the Senate really the ship that impact us. What do 1337 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 1: you think James to be inquired? And I'm looking because 1338 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm listening to Jo, but I mean, like I said, 1339 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 1: everything was a design. He goes way way before the 1340 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 1: eighties with us, we put ourselves in a situation because 1341 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 1: the police couldn't infiltrate in this. They had one of 1342 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 1: us in there to do it. And we got a 1343 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 1: lot of brothers that sold brothers out back in those days. 1344 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,880 Speaker 1: But it's short for the little money that they did give. 1345 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,679 Speaker 1: And then they create a program, they create programs should 1346 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 1: keep you where you at, stagnate you just like with us, 1347 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,439 Speaker 1: like when you say, ain't no prither in the house, 1348 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: It shouldn't have really mattered if you had the daddy 1349 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,640 Speaker 1: in the house or whatever. With all the ship that 1350 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,559 Speaker 1: was going on, we set back and watched half of 1351 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 1: the ship crack off go the way it went. You 1352 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that now we're fighting and killing 1353 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 1: each other over the same ship. These motherfuckers put it here, 1354 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you said, the trap, 1355 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 1: that's all that shit was. We shit, and we're sitting 1356 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: and there getting drunk, ain't paying attention and passing ship 1357 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 1: through the windows, through the doors, the whole nine. We 1358 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 1: didn't giving the fuck. But this is what they showed 1359 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 1: us where we was at, and we we fucked with that. 1360 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 1: That's what we rolled with and we're still doing it 1361 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: right now today. So I mean, yeah, man, you you 1362 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 1: catch a cold case, you in your young twenties, late teens, 1363 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 1: and you catch a cold case, you come home at 1364 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 1: thirty eight, forty years old, and basically they spend all 1365 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 1: them years working in there for fucking free, for free, 1366 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 1: free labor. Thirty five how many people you lose to them. 1367 01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 1: Cold motherfucker man. There's so many there's so many brothers 1368 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,760 Speaker 1: in prison. That's because we don't know the law. And 1369 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 1: when they get in there and get to spend the 1370 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,840 Speaker 1: law to you, thinking they've been to helpy, but then 1371 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day they stretch answer. Know 1372 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I don't know how to tell 1373 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:16,000 Speaker 1: the young homies how to preach and be like Brad 1374 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 1: go straight whatever. I wouldn't listening to nobody when I 1375 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 1: was young. I'm just like, get your motherfucking money. But 1376 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,679 Speaker 1: it's a lot of shit out here, like it's gonna 1377 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: benefit you more without the fucking penitentiary chances. That's all 1378 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,759 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And do what the fuck you gotta do, whatever, 1379 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 1: but stay the fuck out that prison, bro, And and 1380 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,519 Speaker 1: I just in the law. I say, it's the same. 1381 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Think back to when you was a youngster, and the 1382 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: niggas who rode the hardest, the niggas who rode the hardest, 1383 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 1: and the niggasue them little nerd niggas that would never 1384 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: join the fucking game. The niggasu would never come around 1385 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,720 Speaker 1: the block. The niggas you come home at thirty eight 1386 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 1: years old and that little nigga got a fine ass wife, 1387 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 1: beautiful family. Nigga got nice ass cars and ship. You're like, 1388 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 1: you're like that podcast nigga like you like they nigga 1389 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:13,639 Speaker 1: ben balling, and we ain't too far from you know from, 1390 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 1: because niggas got that that rich dream right now. They 1391 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 1: see the just wrap shit, the hip hop shit, this 1392 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 1: ball player shit, and they got that that million they're dream. 1393 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 1: But you ain't. You ain't gonna achieve that unless you 1394 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 1: apply yourself to something. You gotta put your ten thousand 1395 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 1: dollars in. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta get some 1396 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 1: work in. You gotta become an expert at something and 1397 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 1: and be good at that ship what we say, You 1398 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,880 Speaker 1: just gotta pay your dudes and put in your work 1399 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 1: and then shit shit eventually, if you get the right 1400 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, the right foundation behind you on the right 1401 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 1: cuple of group of niggas that can steer you on 1402 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: the right path. Like I said, Old Geez used to 1403 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,320 Speaker 1: be set up to try to steer niggas on the 1404 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,439 Speaker 1: right path. For letting niggas stay out. Yeah, keep your kick, 1405 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 1: keep him out of the games, keep him in sports. 1406 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: You know, that's what we need, you know. But other 1407 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,360 Speaker 1: than that, man, you just nothing else matters. Man. You 1408 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Shit been flipping the same way 1409 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 1: for generations. You know what I'm saying. I can say, 1410 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 1: back to when I started running around, shit ain't changed. 1411 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 1: Like James say, you can vote for whatever, take your choice, Democrat, Republican. 1412 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, start start peeping 1413 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,440 Speaker 1: out what's going on in your own section, in your neighborhood, 1414 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,240 Speaker 1: your city. Start peeping out the local government, Start peeping 1415 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,320 Speaker 1: out what's happening in the Senate and the people who 1416 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 1: make the laws, because that's that's what counts. Yeah, I think. 1417 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 1: I think. What I'm trying to say, though, is a 1418 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,640 Speaker 1: it's almost gangster, it's almost real gangster, not to be 1419 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,640 Speaker 1: gangster in the long run, In the long run, you 1420 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 1: know what, man, it is. And you know when I 1421 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 1: hear James talk about that, man when here talking to 1422 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 1: your brothers and out here in the streets. Man, that's 1423 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,280 Speaker 1: what he tells him. He says, Man, it ain't no 1424 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,640 Speaker 1: benefits to it, ain't no pinsion in it. It's just 1425 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 1: you better off. He's doing the right thing. And at 1426 01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 1: this point nobody can remember, like you really go around 1427 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 1: and just ask motherfuckers like like nigga, who who's your enemy? 1428 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 1: And be like why and then gonna tell you like 1429 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 1: they kill I'll not be fought at, Like why don't 1430 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 1: y'all why is y'all hoods enemies? Niggas don't even know 1431 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 1: why half the wards started. They don't even know. They 1432 01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: don't even concern. They just like nigga block that like 1433 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,760 Speaker 1: that Chicago ship. They're like, Nigga, we can't even negotiate. 1434 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 1: They're keeping a tally on bodies. They're like, we can't 1435 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 1: even negotiate the truths until we like got the same 1436 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,240 Speaker 1: amount of bodies and knocking each other down. Man, it's 1437 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,439 Speaker 1: like man, and like we y'all got it. Y'all up 1438 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 1: on a sixteen to fourteen nigga, So give me to 1439 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 1: two bodies and we can talk about the truths. Then, well, 1440 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,479 Speaker 1: you know the thing, man, one of the things we 1441 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,040 Speaker 1: always talk about man, you know, black lives matter. Man. 1442 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,040 Speaker 1: If a police officers do something to somebody, we go 1443 01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 1: to these cities with marks. But now if we're did 1444 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,360 Speaker 1: to each other, why not we why we should have 1445 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 1: that same energy? Man for one of them, somebody ride 1446 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,680 Speaker 1: through the hood and knocked down little Tommy. Somebody go 1447 01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 1: up there, knockdown little Lisa. You feel what I'm saying. 1448 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 1: We need to have justified. We are used to killing 1449 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 1: each other. That's just like like I know you, I'm 1450 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna fight. I'm gonna argue with you. We far gonna 1451 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 1: argue with these motherfuckers. I don't know. We used to. 1452 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 1: This is what we learned growing up, you know what 1453 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's a big difference. We rather fight 1454 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 1: in the house than go out and fight. These white 1455 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 1: boys just talking about killing us and they home they 1456 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 1: own mother every platform talking about y'all, wait, we're coming. 1457 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a war if Trump lose, We're gonna 1458 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 1: were coming at You're real interested to see what happens 1459 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 1: to this lecture, man, because I don't think old Boy 1460 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,920 Speaker 1: could be the office. I don't think there's enough militia 1461 01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 1: out there to beat up together. That's y'all to be surprised, man, 1462 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,760 Speaker 1: y'all to be surprised with these motherfucker's got if a 1463 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: motherfucker motherfuckers, they they they got some shit. Yeah, I 1464 01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: have to order in the city. Everybody in the city 1465 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 1: standing by, stand down. And stand by the fun man. 1466 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 1: But you see what he's doing. The the what's the councilman? 1467 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 1: Chick that the white boys was kidnapping. Yeah, man, they 1468 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 1: tell out kidnapping and kill him on fuckers because if 1469 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 1: you ain't, if you ain't on board with rump Man, 1470 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 1: you're in trouble. But I don't even follow up politics. 1471 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 1: I wish it. What happened one I could have never 1472 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 1: had in a million years, could have predicted twenty twenty. 1473 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: So shit Insten is crazy. Man. It's almost like the 1474 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,600 Speaker 1: apocalypse of Sun but fucking ninety nine years old. So 1475 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,599 Speaker 1: I ain't never seen no ship like this. Man. Sure, man, 1476 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 1: you know what. Man, I appreciate you. Man happening as 1477 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,560 Speaker 1: so Man to your beautiful compound. Man giving us a 1478 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 1: dope interview. Man, Man, you guys, Man, we think y'all 1479 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 1: for coming in. Man tuning into another episode a Gangster Chronicles. Man, 1480 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe. Man, go down, alottle. I heard 1481 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:58,600 Speaker 1: a man visit our website www. Dot Gangster Chronicles podcast 1482 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 1: dot com. Man mca up online, hit big James up 1483 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 1: he online. He hollered back. I'm on line. Most of 1484 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 1: us will hit the home too short. Man, Damn short man. 1485 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,639 Speaker 1: You know what, Man, can you give him one before 1486 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 1: we go? Man, I just want I just want here 1487 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:19,599 Speaker 1: one time. But I gotta say bit right there, appreciate you. Man. 1488 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 1: We out here one still. I got to hear man 1489 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 1: like a like the he's brushing by that podcasting that 1490 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:29,640 Speaker 1: was