1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome into a Wednesday edition of 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans A Radio studio. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter, 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: and it's so glad to be with you on by 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: off week. Whatever you want to say. If you got 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: an issue with saying bye week, then so be it. Whatever. 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: If you want to be particular about it, go on. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't care. It's an off week. It's a bye 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: week to Texas. Don't play on Sunday. However you call it, 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: that's what it is. So no pressers today, no players available, 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: but we will have players on the show, and we 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: will have a GM on the show. We'll have Nickossario 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: here in a little bit. But it's Wednesday, so that 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: means we do have Nickosserio. It also means Wednesdays are 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: where are they now? So this was probably about twelve 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: thirteen years ago. Vante Leach was the best fullback in 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the NFL and at the time, the Pro Bowl was 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: in Hawaii, and it just made a lot of sense Leech, 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: get Leech to the beach, get him to the Pro Bowl. 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Ivantae Leach eventually made that Pro Bowl as a text 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: and he would eventually make Pro Bowl as a raven 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: as well. But Drew Doordy had a chance to catch 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: up with Vante Leech and that was really fun. We 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: then will have a little deep slant action in our 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: second hour Deep He's gonna catch up with Chris Conley, 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: John Grenard and Brandon Cooks. And then on Friday we're 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: gonna have our Rookie show on Friday with Nico Collins, 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan, and Roy Lopez all deep slant style on Friday. 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: So we have got a lot to do on a Wednesday. 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: And it starts as always with some transactions actually, and 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: it's just one. But it came down yesterday and I 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: don't know if if DP and Mark. I'm sure dep 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Mark talked about it a little bit, but it's at 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: the running back spot where Sky Phillips unfortunately will go 35 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: on IR. And from my perch the other day against Miami, 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: I just happened to see a moving cart and I 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh man, where's oh gosh, and I saw 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: Scottie going off on that card. He then was put 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: on IR yesterday being brought in as Royce Freeman. Very 40 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: interesting piece. I'm very intrigued to see what Royce Freeman 41 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: has got. They brought in Jalen Samuel's kind of a 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: do it all sort of running back. The guy is 43 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: actually listed. Remember what I said during the game on Sunday, 44 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I hate the depth chart because as soon as you 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: put a position tag on a guy, everybody thinks he 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: should be that guy. Well, Jaylen Samuels. The guy was 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: talking about was Mike Kisiki. They'd say he's a tight end. 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: He's really receiver. But that's kind of that way for 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: Jaylen Samuels because he was at college and NC State. 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: They would say tight end, but he was like a fullback, 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: half back, and h back, sometimes a tight end, sometimes 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. He did a little bit everything. And 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: Jalen's on the practice squads. So you've got Jaylen Samuels 54 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: and Royce Freeman here now with this running back group. 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see what happens after the bye. 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: If by one of those two not both find a 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: way on the field to make an impact for this 58 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: Texans offense, they could use it. So that is your 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: one transaction for the day. So the man who makes 60 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: those transactions is Gmnick. Cassario, Mark and I had a 61 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: chance to catch up with him on bye bye week. 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: Joining us right now is Texans general manager Nick Cassario 63 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: here at the Honday Texans Radio studio. Nick, great to 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: have you with us. How's it going good to be here? 65 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: How you doing doing well? Bye week? So here we go. 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: Let's just review a little bit about Miami and what 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: happened against the Dolphins. Too many mistakes to win the game, 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: but you're right there with the Dolphins throughout the afternoon 69 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: head opportunities put ourselves into position making the one possession 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: game there in the fourth quarter. But when you go 71 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: through the league, you watch any game, including ours, there's 72 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: a certain plays, there's x number of game plays in 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: a game that are all thinking to determine which team wins, 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: which team loses. So in the end, Miami made more 75 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: plays than we did. You know, we just got to 76 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: do a better job of execution to Certainly, the turnovers 77 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: played a factor into the game. They scored fourteen points 78 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: off or turnovers. So when you go back and you 79 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: look at actually Tennessee watch a Tennessee Rams game scored 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: fourteen points on defense, So turnovers feel position. There's certain 81 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: elements that if you execute those plays, you give yourself 82 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: a chance to win. If you don't, and you know 83 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult, and you kind of made 84 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: it difficult in ourselves. Made some improvements in some areas, 85 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: but in the m's came up short upfront defensively, four sacks, 86 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: you get five turnovers. What you're seeing from that defensive 87 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: line that's working for you, guys, because it feels like 88 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys winning one on one matchups. 89 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: There's some schemed up things, but for the most part, 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: it's four guys going to win. What do you like 91 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: about the defensive line? Yet collectively as a group, they've 92 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: been fairly consistent from the beginning to where we are now. 93 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: So whoever has played, we've for the most part taken eight, 94 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: sometimes nine, but seven eight players to the game on 95 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: a regular basis. They all play about called thirty to 96 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: thirty five plays each snap. So when they're in there. 97 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: The good thing when you have players that you feel 98 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: comfortable with you put on the field, they go out 99 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: there and play as hard as they can, and then 100 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: you put the next group of players in there, and 101 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: fortunately they've been productive with those snaps. One thing just 102 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: to play a bunch of guys, but it's another thing 103 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: to play a number of players and have them have 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: production that's commensurate. So you know it's a good group. 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: BK has done a great job him and Allen I've 106 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: done a good job with that group. So hopefully their 107 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: performance can continue here as we move forward. Are you 108 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: surprised at all how they've gotten pressure without sending extra people. 109 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: A lot of times it's just four guys and they're 110 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback at a fairly consistent basis. Yeah, 111 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: it's a credit to them. So it goes back to 112 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: their skill set what they're asked to do, as long 113 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: as it's when the confines of the defense. There's a 114 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: few times that we lost a rush lanes or containing 115 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: a quarterback probably wasn't as clean as it needed to be, 116 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: and Jacoby was able to escape there a little bit. 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: But rushing the quarterback, there's a fine line of rushing 118 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: with discipline and kind of going to to quarterback, but 119 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: also maintaining the integrity of the rush lanes. You don't 120 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: give the quarterback the opportunity to step up. Had a 121 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: few times where we came free off the edge and 122 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: he was the escape around the corner. So it's one 123 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: thing to get pressure, but you want to do with 124 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: then to confine the defense. So it's kind of oxymoronic, 125 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: but it's a disciplined mindset, but being able to do 126 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: it at a high speed. Nick, you mentioned Tennessee, and 127 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: I know Tennessee is a couple of weeks away, but 128 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: I got me thinking about just different philosophies that you face. 129 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean throughout the league, thirty two different offenses, thirty 130 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: two different offensive philosophies. We saw one in Miami. Defensive 131 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: lines got to play a certain way, but all of 132 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, here's Tennessee with a whole different mindset and 133 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: how they attack you with or without Derrick Henry. Having 134 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity to look at Tennessee. Without Derek Henry, we're 135 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: kind of problems that they present, especially on the offensive 136 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: front and upfront. Yeah, the beauty of the league is 137 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: each team is constructed a certain way. So what you 138 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: have to do from our standpoint is understand the team 139 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: you're playing. Again, So it's a combination of scheme and 140 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: the personnel that goes along with the scheme. So I 141 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: would just say just in general, their program, and we're 142 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: actually I mean we're I mean between Tennessee. I've already 143 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: worked on Tennessee, working on the Jets, trying to stay 144 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: ahead here a little bit. But I mean what John 145 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: and Mike have done, they've kind of built their team 146 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: in their own image. I mean, Mike was as mentally 147 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: and physically tough as a player that we ever had 148 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: in New England, and they played to it. And John 149 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: is a great understanding of personnel and how to put 150 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: a team together. So they've put their stamp on and 151 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: they built a good program. They have a number of 152 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: good players, so they posed challenges on both sides of 153 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: the ball regardless of who they have on the field. 154 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: I would say they didn't necessarily change materially how they 155 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: played against the Rams. Without Derek, obviously there's a great player, 156 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: it makes a big difference. But they ran their offense 157 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: and they did some things maybe that they thought gave 158 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: them the best chance to win. What you have to 159 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: do each week. So they have good players and other 160 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: other spots and they'll just kind of plug in whether 161 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: the next player is. As a player was for Able 162 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: just always flapping his gums because he just always talking 163 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: all the time, and Mike had a lot of confidence 164 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: in himself. Mike was a very cerebral, a very smart player. 165 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, quick anecdote about Mike. So when he came 166 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: on in two thousand and one, was an outside linebacker 167 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: through four outside linebacker, and I forget what year, it 168 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: was like we needed help an inside linebacker. Mike didn't 169 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: play inside linebacker very much at all. But then he 170 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: actually he made transition from playing outside lineber againstide linebacker. 171 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: And it's not an easy thing to do. You can't 172 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: just move from the end of line of scrimmage da inside. 173 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: But it just spoke to his selflessness. It just spoke 174 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: to his team first mindset and I'd say his mental 175 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: toughness in his capacity. So that's who Mike was as 176 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: a player, and how Mike was as a player manifests 177 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: itself and how the Titans play. You definitely see that 178 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: in their style of play. Yeah, no question. Do you 179 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: think Ryan Tannehill's a pretty good tale of a player 180 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: who people might give up on. Some people might from 181 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: the outside looking in, And obviously he was available to 182 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: them and they made the acquisition and it wasn't like 183 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: he was bad in Miami. They had a playoff year. 184 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: They had some pretty decent years, but it didn't flourish 185 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: the way they wanted to. And now here he is 186 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: in Tennessee making all this. Hey, so what about that 187 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of thing with a player, could be a quarterback, 188 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: could be anybody, when people tend to give up on them. 189 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: It's a great point, and I think what happens sometimes. 190 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: In Ryan's case, he was drafted I want to say, 191 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: top ten, eighth pick overall, So there's always certain level 192 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: of expectation that goes along with it, and if you 193 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: don't play to a certain level or stand standard, people 194 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: get upset about it. And well it didn't work out, 195 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: and he put some undue pressure on yourself. I mean, 196 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: Ryan gave us problems in New England. He played and 197 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: some of the attributes that he possessed. You saw that 198 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: show up. What has happened the change of scenery, new team. 199 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: He kind of got a breath of fresh air, and 200 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: he's executed at a high level since he's been there. 201 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: He's accurate with the ball, he's athletic, he knows where 202 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: to go with the ball, he gets rid of the ball, 203 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: and he's operated in their offense very effectively. Regardless of 204 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: the personnel that they've had around him, and now they've 205 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: got some i would say, really good players around him. 206 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: So it sometimes a player just needs a change of scenery, 207 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: It just needs something a little bit different, and Ryan's 208 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: taking advantage an opportunity. I mean, there's multitude of players 209 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: that fall into that category. If it doesn't work one place, 210 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: whatever the rhyme or reason is, it doesn't necessarily mean 211 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: it can't work somewhere else. But there's always some factors 212 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: that usually go into it. And there's a guy that 213 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: we just talked about that felt to that situation sounds 214 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: Mike Rabel because with Pittsburgh it just wasn't happening. But 215 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: he goes to New England he ends up having a 216 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: tremendous career. Nick, you talked about getting your head, getting 217 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: the Titans, getting the Jets, and the self scout process. 218 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: We talked coach, call you that the other day and 219 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: it'll maybe different for you, But how does the self 220 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: scout process work for you? What's kind of that your 221 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: involvement in that for yourself and your department? Sure, no, 222 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: we actually talk through our personnel here a little bit 223 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: earlier this morning. You know, with the staff and just 224 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: kind of gone through some different players. Each game you 225 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: evaluate and you go through your personnel and evaluate the game. 226 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: What happened in the game. Here's some things that we 227 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: need to do better. Maybe it's a personnel change or 228 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: a schematic change. So we talk about those things. We're 229 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: looking at it, and I'm looking at it from our perspective, 230 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: but again it's within the context of the team perspective. 231 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: What do we feel is best for the Easton Texans 232 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: on a week to week basis, So sometimes there's always 233 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: the belief while you get to the buye week and 234 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: you take a break and you just kind of kind 235 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: of look at everything that's happened, Well, you're looking at 236 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: that on a week to week basis what you really 237 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: want to do during the bye, we can say, all right, 238 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: what are some things, maybe three or four things or 239 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: two or three things on each side of the ball 240 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: that we've identified. Maybe we can find a way to 241 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: improve those incrementally. And if we improve those incrementally, then 242 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: maybe I'll give ourselves a better chance comes Sunday, whoever 243 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: the opponent is, it's not necessarily about the opponent. It's 244 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: more about like what we need to do with our 245 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: team NIX. Somehow that meeting didn't show up on my calendar, 246 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: so I apologize for not being there, but I got 247 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: a wig in right now. What about Tyrod Taylor, It 248 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: was very uncharacteristic what happened against the Dolphins, because he's 249 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: a guy who protects the football. He looked really good 250 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: through a game and a half. Is it like a 251 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: picture not having his best staff or something like that? 252 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: What happened to him? And he just needs to get 253 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: back into the fold a little bit more practice wise 254 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: and rhythm wise. Yeah, any player, whenever you haven't played 255 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: in game situations, there's a certain assimilation that you have 256 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: to go through. And I would say it was a 257 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: combination of we didn't play well as a team and 258 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: there were some things that Miami did schematically that puts 259 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: some stress and pressure on us and they handled it 260 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: better than we did. So sometimes, not to oversimplify it, 261 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: but that's sometimes what goes on during the course of 262 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: the game. So practice is important. Practice is your best 263 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to prepare to play. But what goes on in 264 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: practice you can't simulate to you know, to the full extent, 265 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: what's actually going to go on in the game until 266 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: you're actually on the field. So regardless of how much 267 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: you played, regardless of how much experience you have the game, 268 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: experience is usually the thing that matters the most. I 269 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: know it's a singular person, but as a rookie, and 270 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: he was the guy snapping the ball Tyrod Taylor, and 271 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: that's Jimmy Morrissey. I think a lot of people didn't 272 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: even know who he was because he's obviously acquired near 273 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: on a few weeks ago was we're getting ready to 274 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: trade trade deadline, there were some other things that people 275 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: up there were talking about. Maybe not a lot of 276 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: people knew of Jimmy Morrissey. Would you think of how 277 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: he played against the Dolphins on Sunday? Yeah, the group overall, 278 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: they hung in there against a very strong stout front. 279 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: They present problems for a lot of different teams. Jimmy 280 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: had a lot of experiences, a four years start at 281 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: the University of Pittsburgh's play a lot of football, and 282 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: played quite a bit in the preseason with the Raiders. 283 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: So that's a player that falls into some of your 284 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: preseason scouting. As you're going through certain players maybe that 285 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: are drafted later or are free agents. They may or 286 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: may out make the roster. So in his case, he 287 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: was on a practice squad, you know, like davy On 288 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: Davis was on a practice squad. So there's multi multitude 289 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: of ways that you can acquire players and add them 290 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: to your team. Those are two young players that have 291 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: come in. They've worked hard. Jimmy took advantage of his opportunity. 292 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the way it worked out, we just thought 293 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: that was the best way to go. What that looks 294 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: like against Tennessee will kind of have to see who's healthy, 295 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: who's available, and just try to make the best decision 296 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: to put the best five out there. What is it 297 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: like for you personally to go to a stadium like 298 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, like Buffalo, and you've been there so many 299 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: times with another organization and now you're with this organization. 300 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: You're very familiar with the surroundings. Yet it's different because 301 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: now you're here. What is that like? It feels like 302 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: you're like, I've been in those stadiums like every year. 303 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's part of the process. So you're gonna play. 304 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean, whoever the teams are just so happens that 305 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: the AFC South crossed over with the AFC East this year. 306 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: So whether it was quintincidence or not, but same thing. 307 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: Going to the stadium, understand the surroundings, understand the environment, 308 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: you understand some of the things that go on on 309 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: that periphery. But again it comes down to your execution 310 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: and how the team plays in that particular But that 311 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: particular day, Nick, you brought up an interesting point you're 312 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: talking about Jimmy about the preseason process for players that 313 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: you might you and I know we've talked about this before, 314 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: about the fact that you look at everybody. I mean, 315 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: you got to keep tabs on everything that's going on. 316 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: But are there situations where during the draft, you know, 317 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: maybe there's a player you guys had your eye on, 318 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: potentially somebody takes him a few picks prior and you're like, hey, 319 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: we need to keep an eye on that guy just 320 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: in case. Is that kind of the thing that happens 321 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: sometimes And maybe that happened with Jimmy in the situation. 322 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: That's a fair characterization, kind of going behind the curtains. 323 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: We actually tried to sign Jimmy after the draft, so 324 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: that was a player that we had targeted kind of 325 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: as an undrafted free agent, and it didn't work. Out, 326 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: which I would say the post draft free agent process 327 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: of adding players to your team, that's probably another episode 328 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: in and of itself. So that was a player we 329 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: had kind of earmarked as we had won through the process, 330 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: so he was one of, however, many players so it 331 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: didn't work out, And it's a really a good example 332 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: if you never really know when you're gonna have an 333 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to add that player to the team, but the 334 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: work that you do. It illustrates the work that you 335 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: do in the draft, all everything that goes into it. 336 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: At some point it might come up and manifest itself. 337 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: I would say, going back, it was a very similar 338 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: situation with Cookie. When you know, we acquired Brandon in 339 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: New England, so drafted by the Saints in the first round. 340 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: I actually personally work Brandon out during the spring in March. 341 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: It was he and I and Corvallis in their indoor 342 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: facility with no lights and he ran routes, so that 343 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: experience and you're throwing, and you're throwing. We may have 344 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: had a quarterback there because I was trying to coach 345 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: him on the route. But it's a good example of 346 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: you really never know when that interaction is going to 347 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: make a difference, So you build up your inventory of information. 348 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: So when you go back to and say, hey, there's 349 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: an opportunity to acquire this player, Okay, what do we 350 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: think coming out, Well, here's what we thought in the workout. Okay, 351 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: here's what we thought of the player coming out. Here's 352 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: your information we had. Okay, this matches up and makes 353 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: some sense. So that's where regardless, it just speaks to 354 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: the work that goes into this college scouting process and 355 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: as soon as they go from college transition to the pros, 356 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,479 Speaker 1: you're tracking those players, but you're relying on the information 357 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: that you've accumulated at that point, which speaks to the 358 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: work that our area scouts and our college scouting staff 359 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: does and making sure that information is accurate and right 360 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: because you're going to refer back to that, So you 361 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: want to try to make a good decision based on 362 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: the right information. Nick, we talk about guy improving throughout 363 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: their NFL career, Well, there are a few games left 364 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: in the college season, and how many guys really change 365 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: your evaluation of them through these final two, three, four games, 366 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: whatever the amount may be. The bowl game, this has 367 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: to be really important for them because for some guys. 368 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: I would imagine the light goes on at some point 369 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: mid season where it matters the most, as if a 370 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: player maybe hasn't played as much early on in the 371 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: year because he's had the circumstance, whether it was another 372 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: player was playing ahead of him, he had an injury 373 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: that prohibited him from playing. There's a lot of work 374 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: that you're doing. You've done work as I'm either there's 375 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: a sophomore or junior, so you've seen X amount of games, 376 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: handful of games of what they did previously at the 377 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: beginning of the season. Some schools, I mean, they play 378 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of potter puffs, so you're really not going 379 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: to evaluate them against whatever that level of competition. It's 380 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: not disrespectful, it's just the reality of it. And then 381 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: when you get to the core of their conference play, 382 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: then you can kind of see him against a little 383 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: bit better competition because ultimately, what they're going to see 384 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday it's the best competition, so you want to 385 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: see him play against the best. So for the most part, 386 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: what you think of the player going into the spring 387 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: or the summer before that fall doesn't materially change. The 388 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: grade's not going to materially change. It might be some 389 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: position and that goes along with it. But it's just 390 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: another opportunity for GoF there and just verify maybe what 391 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: you thought, or you know what, this guy maybe played 392 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: a little bit better. Maybe there's some circumstances why so 393 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: we have to go back to the staff and say, okay, 394 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: where's the A delta? What happened? But you mentioned the 395 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: level of competition, and here we have Cecil Shorts who 396 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: helps us out with the arena stuff. Exactly exactly. I 397 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: saw Pierre Garsana interviewed recently and their Mountain Union guys 398 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: started to bring up the Mountain Union. We never beat 399 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: them the great programs, but Cecil was drafted and you know, 400 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: these guys show up. So how hard is it to 401 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: evaluate those kinds of players? No? Absolutely, And it's a 402 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: good illustration. And it really doesn't matter where you come from, 403 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Like if you have a certain level of physical skill 404 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: and acumen and people are gonna find you. That's what 405 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: our part of our job from a scouting perspective is 406 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: wherever the players art doesn't necessarily matter where they come from. 407 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: Now that statistics and percentage will tell you that it's 408 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: so much harder for those players to actually make it, 409 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: because it's just it's difficult to make that jump from 410 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: the level of competition. But with those particular players, it 411 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: just seeks to speak to their level of skill and performance, 412 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: and once they're given an opportunity, then everybody's on an 413 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: equal playing field. So it's about your improvement. It's about 414 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: can you take the coach and can you apply the 415 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: concepts that you're taught, and how do you actually perform 416 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: with those opportunities. So getting there is the hardest part, 417 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily matter where you come from. Maintaining and 418 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: staying there that's ultimately the hardest thing. But if you're 419 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: good enough, you have an opportunity to end up on 420 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: a roster at some point, and then your performance ultimately 421 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: dictate how how long that is? Nike, it feels like 422 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: there's so many different chapters that go into a prospects 423 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: novel if you will. Obviously, you know the college career 424 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: is four years long, that's the longest one. But then 425 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: you've got the postseason games. You know, Senior boyl you 426 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: got you Sweat Shrine, you have NFLPA, you got all 427 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: these different postseason games. How much difference can those games 428 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: make And that's one question, But the other one is 429 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't think you've ever been on a staff that 430 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: worked with players at the Senior Bowl. How important could 431 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: that be if you have that opportunity to spend a 432 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: full week with a group of players. We'll work backwards. 433 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: I would say if you simulate what you're going to 434 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: do on a weekly basis your staff and able to 435 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: see how that player response to that, then give you 436 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: some information about their overall process that they put themselves 437 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: through in their routine, how they handle information, how they 438 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: absorb the information. Can they take what happened one day, 439 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: make the correction apply it next So you can see 440 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: some things up close in terms of coaching technique. Are 441 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: they doing the things that you're asked to do. The 442 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: first part of the question John again was how important 443 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: are those postseason The novel almost written, that last chapter becomes, well, 444 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: the class chapter is a combine and all those things, 445 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: But you've got a chapter right there of the Senior Bowl. 446 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: When you've got all these years of film, how important 447 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: did those postseason bowls? You have to be really careful 448 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: of sort of making knee jerk reaction about what you 449 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: see kind of in a one on one drill, because 450 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: think about it, some players, if their season ends end 451 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: in November beginning of December, they could go six weeks 452 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: before they've actually done anything football related. So essentially they 453 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: maybe have been training and work in combine, they haven't 454 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: been practicing, they haven't been anything football, and then they 455 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: show up at the Senior Bowl. Okay, then they're in 456 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: one on one then or nine and seven in or 457 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: seven and seven. Then they're a team and they might 458 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: have some good days, they might have some bad days. Really, 459 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: the players that going back to like Mount Union and 460 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: Cecil and those guys, to see them against a better 461 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: level of competition, that certainly is going to help their evaluation. 462 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: But if you have a player that's been a three 463 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: year start at the University of Alabama and then he 464 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: shows up the Senior Bowl and then he struggles in 465 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: one on ones or doesn't do well in nine on seven, 466 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: are you going to penalize that player or you know, 467 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: so you have to understand the circumstances that are associated 468 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: with it. All right, Naked's bye week, Are you gonna 469 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: sit on the couch, big bag of cheetos or something? 470 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: Just watch Tving do you even know what cheetos are. No, 471 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I've had a potato chip, and I 472 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: don't know how. I'm sorry to disappoint everybody out there. 473 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: Not gonna break routine. Not bad. And they got me 474 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: thinking with Mark's question, when's the last time? When is 475 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: the last time you just set in a couch should 476 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: watch something that wasn't football or CNBC or MS rom 477 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: Com or something like that. You just line in the 478 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: couch and just watched it, and that can't just differ. 479 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm too restless. When you have three girls and a dog, 480 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't enable you to do that. But they don't 481 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: force you to watch something. No, not at all. I 482 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: left frozen frozen Nick taking frozen with the girls. That 483 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: would be nice. No, I think you can still during 484 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: the BUBE. We can still be productive, but you can 485 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: still maximize your time with your family and those are 486 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: the most important people in your life. So my wife 487 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: is phenomenal, our girls are great, and I think it's 488 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: always everybody thinks, well, there's never time during the season. 489 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: I think you have to be purposeful about your relationship 490 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: if it's something that you care about. So this is 491 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity or at least you know at the end 492 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: of the week, like we don't have to get on 493 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: a plane, we don't have to be in a building, 494 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: we don't have to come to the stadium. So we'll 495 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: take advantage of the time we have together. I'm sure 496 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: there'll be enough work. You can always be productive with 497 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: your time. I think all of us would learned, and 498 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: with COVID and the pandemic, like wherever you are, you 499 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: can still be productive with your time and just stay 500 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: true to your process and just try to get as 501 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: much work done as you can, but maybe not at 502 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: a breakneck pace. Nick next, so much for being with us. 503 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: Good luck, Thanks guys, appreciate it. I remember the first 504 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: time we interviewed Nick Kissario and I just said something 505 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: sort of offhanded, like you know how I do. I 506 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: just throw something out there kind of like I did 507 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: right there at the end, and I just try and 508 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: get him to, you know, laugh a little bit. And 509 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: I always do that. Now It's become my goal every 510 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: time we talked, to say something to get him to laugh, 511 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: because I love seeing the smile. I love seeing he 512 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: just brightens up the room. He smiles and laughs and 513 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: kind of cackles at something. So of course I had 514 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: to ask him about that. On Sunday. I asked him 515 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: whether he was going to work on his tan and 516 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: he he didn't even be a bad an eye. I 517 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: don't even think he laughed. Actually, he's just like, I 518 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: got my visor. I'm good. John. He was like, all right, 519 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: we're good. Let's roll. Love having Nick on the air 520 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: with us. All right, Like I said, it's a Wednesday. 521 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Where are they now, It's time to go in the 522 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: way back Wednesday machine. To talk to a guy who 523 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: was a huge part of the success of the Texans 524 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the previous decade beginning of the 525 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: last decade. I don't know how to do all of that, 526 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: but seven thousand nine, Vante Leach was a big part 527 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: of what this team was doing, and then started in 528 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: twenty ten, two eleven on in that direction. He was 529 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: a focal point for this offense, for this organization. Leeched 530 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: the beach, Get leached to the Beach was such a 531 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: prominent promo and it worked. I was so happy for him. 532 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl fullback Vonte Leech joins your doherty next right 533 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: here on Texansol Access, Exansol Access exenso access. I know 534 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: I got some houscenaria teachers out there that are looking 535 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: for anything they can bring to their classroom to help 536 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: their little kiddos learn math in particular. Well, I got 537 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: one for you, Toros Matris, brought to you by Conico Phillips, Houston, 538 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: Texas dot com slash Toros Matris. It is the best 539 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: way that you're going to get third fourth graders to 540 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: learn math. You bring Toros mathrils into your room and 541 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: you apply them properly. I guarantee your are going to 542 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: learn matth Houston, Texas dot Com splash Toros Math Drills 543 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: presented by our friends at Conico Phillips. Now I know 544 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: two guys that were excellent at math are about to 545 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: join us once Drew Doherty, who he's okay with math, 546 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Vante Leech is excellent at math. They did a little 547 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: Where are they now? On this Wednesday? Here's Drew Doherty 548 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: with Vonte Leach. Well, boy, you better get ready because 549 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: we got the fullback. We got Vante Leech on Where 550 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: are they now? Vante? It's great to see you. We 551 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: always have fun when we get a chance to talk 552 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: with you. First things first, where are you these days? 553 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Man oh many. First of all, 554 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: thanks for having the Drews. I'm in Lumberton, North Carolina, 555 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: on back home one from him where I grew up 556 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: at right now, I'm actually on the local school board here. 557 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm an elected official. I got elect last year, so 558 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: I just finished my first term with the school boyd 559 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: with a school year and it's been a trying year 560 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: with COVID when everything else that we got going on, Yeah, 561 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: no doubt. Well, so it's we're shooting this on Tuesday, 562 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: and it's election day across the country. Are you up 563 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: for election right now? Are you just kind of I 564 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: got I got voted in last year, so it's a 565 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: four year term for your term. So you're sitting pretty 566 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: You're just you're chilling the day. I'm just chilling today. 567 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: You know, I have to do no poll work. I'm 568 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: going to polls. I'm running around today. That's fantastic stuff. 569 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: All Right. We're gonna talk a lot about your football 570 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: days and everything. But I want to stick with this 571 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: because I'm not surprised that you did this. But I 572 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: think there might be a lot of people out there 573 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: that think, Wow, this guy was a pro bowler, he 574 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: played football. What's he want to do on the school board. 575 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: How'd that all come about, Vante? That came about, Well, 576 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: you wanting to make a difference back in my community 577 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: where I grew up at, back in Robinson County, for 578 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: our school sis and for our kids. That's it. You know. 579 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: I felt like this is the way for me to 580 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: put a mark or you know, all my life after 581 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: football and I want to try to make our school 582 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: system better, or bi a voice for the voice list 583 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: and for some people that really don't have a voice, 584 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: and you know, to be a bridge builder, try to 585 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: help out anyway I can. That's fantastic. I'm betting you 586 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: learned a whole lot in the last year because you know, 587 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: a lot of times people get elected to a position 588 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: and they didn't really know exactly what went into that. 589 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm guessing you've you've picked up quite a bit and 590 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: been able to make some changes. Huh, pick it up 591 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: quite a bit to still learning. You know, you're learning 592 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: something different every day as far as the different funds, 593 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: how to allocate it, how you can spend them. Yeah, 594 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: sources come from and everything. But it's been it's been good. 595 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Did you always have that in the back of your mind? 596 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: That you might want to do that when you were 597 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: a player, or did this pop up right after you 598 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: finished or a few years after you finished. It really 599 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: popped up a few years that I finished. You know 600 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: you kind of you kind of want to know you 601 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: were kind of in the land bad what you want 602 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: to do? Well? You see yourself fit and then you know, 603 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: you try to put yourself back in society. I can 604 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: normal life or doing things, and it just came about, Hey, 605 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: you know this is where I can make my market, 606 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: make the biggest differ, the biggest change. I like it. Well. 607 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: Texans fans obviously know you has a text, and a 608 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: lot of folks know you has a great Baltimore raven. 609 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: You want to ring with them. Tell me about the 610 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: day you came to Houston or the day you found 611 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: out you would be coming to Houston. What was that like? Man? 612 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: You know the day it was really crazy. The day 613 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: I remember getting the story went like this. I remember 614 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: getting cut from the Saints. I remember getting cut from 615 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: the Saints and I had to work out with the 616 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: Houston text and that the next week and it was 617 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: actually the week I remember, like yesterday, it was the 618 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: week that they will play in Miami. I had a workout, 619 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, I had a workout with Houston, had a 620 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: great workout. Workout went well. They said they thought about 621 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: signing me. Actually at the time, Rick Smith the one 622 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: that worked me out. We had eight wide receivers, two 623 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and myself had a great workout, you know, and 624 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: they said they will think about side of every stuff 625 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: and maybe yeah, all day and then they sent me 626 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: back home. So I was at home a whole another week, 627 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: which was the Texans bye week. So I was at 628 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: home a whole another week, you know, and I was like, 629 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: you know, already gonna sign already, gonna pull the trigger. 630 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: And then you know, and they that sudden, I got 631 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: a call, you know, um that they're gonna fly me 632 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: up there. They're gonna pull the trigger, simon. So I 633 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: was happy to come up there in Houston, Texans and 634 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: get real nite, reunited with Mike Sherman. Mike Sherman was 635 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: the head coach in Green Bay when I was at 636 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay, and that's how I ended up getting in Houston. 637 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: What was that first chunk of the first year like 638 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: for you, Yeah, it was kind of it was kind 639 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: of you know, trying top I was just learning away. 640 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: I was actually just a specialty player and a bank 641 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: up to Jamil Cook two he got hurt. I started 642 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: my first game against Oakland and two thousand and six, 643 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: and then the rest is history. The rest is history. 644 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: You were part of an interesting time Nurse so six 645 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: first Gary Kubiak season, go six and ten, and then 646 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: the next two years for the first Tea Times of 647 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: Fancy History team gets to five hundred oh nine, you 648 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: take that next step and get to nine and seven. 649 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: What was it like being a part of that, you know, 650 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: on the rise up because you had played in Green 651 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: Bay where you had Gret Brett Farvin, they were a 652 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: perennial Super Bowl contender. What was it like going from 653 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: that and then seeing kind of you know, the rise 654 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: up by the Texas well well come coming coming from 655 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: a place like Green Bay where the story franchise in 656 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: the history of just about winning and winning the Super Bowl, 657 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: then coming to Houston where you know it was really 658 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: no no win. But what what they were putting together 659 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: was a good group of core guys. You know, if 660 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: you look at from O six ten, we had a 661 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: good nucleus of guys there that you know that we 662 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: were learning how to win, learn how to play together. 663 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I still think that this day, we 664 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: would have kept the nucleus, some more people, some more 665 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: pieces of our team that we let go, you know, together, 666 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: I think we would we would have had I better 667 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: run for this thing. Yeah, you know, you bring up 668 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: a good point there, because that offensive line your last 669 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: season with the Texans and then the next season when 670 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: you're in Baltimore. I don't think there's really any debate 671 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: that's the best offensive line a franchise has ever had. 672 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: You're a part of that by extension, you know, and 673 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: Owen Daniels, Joel Greeson a part of that by extension. 674 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: Because you guys were so so key in blocking, not 675 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: just in pass pro but also for the run game too. 676 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: What was it like the way you guys went about 677 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: your business, because it was it was fairly unique if 678 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: you looked at the you know, the whole landscape of 679 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: the NFL, the way y'all blocked for that that run game, 680 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: in that that passing game. You're right, I think the year, 681 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: the year you're talking about, we actually led the league 682 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: in Russia. We was the answer led the league in 683 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Russian two thousand and I think two thousand and nine, 684 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: two thousand team yes led the League of Russian and 685 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: a year before that, you know, people don't realized we 686 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: had like number three offense in the league. You know, 687 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: when you start talking about scoring, run off run offense 688 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: and a passing offense. So we put a lot of 689 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: points on the board. We took probably we had a 690 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: lot of guys had Chris Myriars, Waiste Meal Chest, the kids, uh, 691 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown, we had. We had some pieces that you know, 692 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna get out there. We took pride in that, 693 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: whether it was passing the ball over in the ball 694 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: he blocked for a few different backs. Steve Slayton was 695 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: one of them. And boy he had a monster rookie year. 696 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: What was he like? How much fun was it being 697 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: in front of him and being a part of that 698 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: offense that year that he exploded, Well, the year the 699 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: year that Steve Slaton came home, you know, it was 700 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: kind of like he came out of nowhere. I think 701 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: we had signed a mind Green the year before, we 702 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: had signed a mind Green and then a man you 703 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: know in the Houston taste. Then really see the situation 704 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: the drafted Steve and Steve came in, there were like 705 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: it was just a they thought he was just gonna 706 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: be a third down Bay. That he became the starter 707 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: and it was great. It was fun. You know, Steve's 708 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: every down Bay could do it all. Had a great years. 709 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: Is when you his rookie ye bust on the scene, 710 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: I think that would think about eleven hundred yards and 711 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: he also was probably uh should have made the Pro 712 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: bo that year. What you did? I think Ronnie Brown 713 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: or somebody had nine hundred yards and they had to 714 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: win the records. So Steve, they go to the Pro Bowl. 715 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 1: And then the next year, you know, he had some 716 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: some injury problems, some fumbles there. It was him Moats, 717 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: Chris Brown and the very end, at the very end 718 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: of the season, we saw the glimpses of Arian When 719 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: did you know that he might be something? I mean 720 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: because he was an undrafted free dge. I'm glad you 721 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: brought that up. Air was undrafted free agent, you know, 722 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: and that Nate year after Steve Buston over, say, I 723 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: blot for all kind of running backs. I mean, I 724 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: think we put you a pass back there one time. 725 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: You you you had a couple of carriages back there, 726 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: but I got snapped in half. That's true, man, Come on, 727 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: the last game was the season, you know, we put 728 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: Aaron back there An had one hundred and something yards. 729 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: I mean he worked his way up. He worked his 730 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: way from the private from the priving squad home to 731 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: the out team. Everything in any I mean, hey, we've 732 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: seen the glimpses of their practices of what he could do. 733 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: Was it early? Was it training camp that you saw 734 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: that there might be there or was it Hey, he 735 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: had to kind of learn a few things and get 736 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: his feet wet as a pro, because I don't think 737 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: he was active until like November, and in his first 738 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: game he was a special teamer and then it was all, yeah, well, 739 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: well this is the thing though, and when it gets 740 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: all year long, and when it gets our number one defense, 741 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: I defense, first team defense during the seasons of stuff, 742 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, and I think a would have got drafted. 743 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: He didn't have no Yeah, so off the field, some 744 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: kind of off the field issues and not at the 745 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 1: field kind of counsel issues that tennessee and stuff. That's 746 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: the only reason why he didn't get drafted. Something attitude 747 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: or something that that's why he didn't get drafted, but 748 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: a was always pretty good and stuff. So it just 749 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: he took offends of the opportunity that was given to him. Yeah, 750 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: and so he comes on and O nine. But then 751 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: they draft Ben Tape and then the next year he 752 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: is a big year sixteen hundred plus rushing yards, six 753 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving. But you're a huge part of that, man. 754 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: You got finally the recognition. You finally you're an All 755 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: Pro and you finally they sent Leech to the b 756 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: each because the Pro Bowl was back in Hawaii back then. 757 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: What was that You're like for you man, because you're 758 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: a big part of that offensive suncess. There was other 759 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: stuff going on on the defensive side of the ball, 760 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: and it winds up with only six wins as a team. 761 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: But there was something in place there. It looked like 762 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: going forward, right, It was looked like we finally had 763 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: some stuff in place. You look at the opening opening 764 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: game in two thousand and ten and Foster to go 765 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: for two hundred and thirty if I'm not mistaken, two 766 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: dred and thirty two yards against the coach. Me and 767 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: him got players of the game. He got to play 768 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: the game. I got played the game. You know, and 769 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: through that year that was just the opening game, but 770 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: through that year I felt like it was real special 771 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: and we had something that we could build on. But 772 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: I also through that year, you know what, people didn't 773 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: realize the more the more air ran for, the more 774 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: a blot for him to hid, my price went up 775 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: as a full bag. So so it became evident and 776 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: kind of clear towards the end of the year that 777 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: this probably was going to be in my last time, 778 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, putting on the Texan uniform. Man, you're making 779 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: me tear up here. I don't want to hear this 780 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: and I don't want to talk too much about your 781 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: non Texans days. But we got it okay, because there's 782 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: there's a few more things I want to get into. 783 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: So you do wind up going to the Ravens, you 784 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: wind up going to two more Pro Bowls and two 785 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: more All Pro Honors, and you win a Super Bowl 786 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: ring in one of the great Super Bowls of all time. 787 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: That first time you played the Texans, though that next 788 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: October there was a back and forth game. Early they 789 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: get down, You guys get down in the red zone. 790 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 1: You're knocking on the door, and Hardball wanted to hook 791 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: you up against your old team, and I remember he 792 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: gave you the ball and I think Antonio got through 793 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: there stopped yet and I think there was a probably 794 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: about what sixteen personal follows by the Texans on that 795 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: What was that length facing your old team because you 796 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: never back down from a fight or a challenge one 797 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: single time in your career. Man, Well, you know it 798 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: was fun, you know, playing the games, are going up 799 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: for gas, and especially the first time we played against 800 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: former team. You know, it was a lot of emotions 801 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: and stuff, you know, but after all you wanted to 802 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: show them, you know, you know that you were still 803 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: you were worth every pity that you know, the Baltimore page, 804 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, had a lot of friends on that team. 805 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: You know. For the game, I talked tong doing game. 806 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: We talked then after the game, talk till again. But 807 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: it was it was good. It was good just to 808 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: go against my former team and just knocked some old 809 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: heads again, no doubt, you know, it was always fun 810 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: seeing you do your stuff on the field. But one 811 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: of the highlights in those days. I started in O 812 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: nine and you were doing this before I got there. 813 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: But a O nine and ten, there were some times 814 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: the Texans did okay, on the road, they won some 815 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: games on the road. And every time the Texans won 816 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: a road game, when we're taking off and when we're landing, 817 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: weren't hearing the flight attendant. You were hearing the co pilot, 818 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: Captain Leech. You would get on the enter come and 819 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: you would talk to the team and stuff. How did 820 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,479 Speaker 1: that all come about? How much fun was that because 821 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: that was one of the highlights of coming home on flights. Man, 822 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: it was you know what it was just for you know, 823 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: one of the things about the text for organization about 824 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: Gary Kuba, he just let me beat myself. There was 825 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: times when losers drivers to safe person just let me 826 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: beat myself, told me just go up there. You Then 827 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: I asked what we got it? We're gonna practice that 828 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: We're not gonna practice. So I get on the I 829 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: get on the microphone and let the guys know what 830 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna do and stuff. I had players enger me 831 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: own and all kinds of stuff. But those was those 832 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: were the biggest highlights, you know. And out of all 833 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: the women the Super Bowl, out of all my accomplishments 834 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: and stuff, honors and stuff, but one of my biggest 835 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: compligence ements is when your peers were stuff look up 836 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: to you and when it say good job and stuff 837 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 1: like that. And I also got to fly the airplane. 838 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: So when I told you guys that that was another 839 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: that was another fun time, all right, Just so the 840 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: FAA doesn't investigate. He actually did not fly here, but 841 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: he was on him like he was he was rocking 842 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: like And it was funny because the way that the 843 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: airplane was set up back then, the players were in 844 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: the back, people like me and support staff they were 845 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: in the middle, and then the coaches and the executives 846 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: were up in first class in the front. But everybody 847 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: was waiting. When the flight was going, everybody's like, what's 848 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: fantaking to stay next? And you would get on and 849 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: you can hear the thing click, and before you said anything, 850 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: you could hear lots of chirping from your teammates in 851 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: the background, lots of rats and lap They were getting 852 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: ready and they were excited too. It was almost like 853 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: a stand up routine. It was so much fun to 854 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: listen to oh Man the days man to get old days. 855 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: Another fun thing you also used to do, or you 856 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: did at least one time. I think the textings right 857 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: before they started that four game win streak to close 858 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: out O nine. They lost four in a row. It 859 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: was kind of rough you on a Friday practice, man, 860 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: I think you kind of broke things up, kept things light. 861 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: You didn't get things get things too down. You did 862 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: the entire Friday practice stressed up as Santa Claus. You 863 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: had to, you had had to stut it was. How 864 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: did that come about? Man? What would happened there? Actually? 865 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 1: You know I told him, you know, I tell them us. 866 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: So I think I made the better stuff with somebody 867 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: that I was gonna wear the Santa suit to the meetings. 868 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: So I would have said the suit to the meet 869 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: somebody say I think with dread Bante, you should go 870 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: to practice like that, and they say you want to 871 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: do it, you want to do it, So I wouldn't. 872 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: I would practice the whole practice, the Friday practice, and 873 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: the same outfit. The people die laugh but I mean 874 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: kobia everybody died laughing. Yeah, I mean it was fun, 875 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: great stuff there from our guys. Drew Doherty and Vante leads, 876 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: we are back. We'll go around the league right here 877 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: on Texas All Access TuS TuS. Going back to Wednesday, 878 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: the issue of Texans All Access from the Honday Texans 879 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: Radio Studio. I am John Harris, your host, glad to 880 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: be with you, and one of our big friends, great 881 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: friends over the years is Mattress Firm, And this this season, 882 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: Mattress Firm is giving away two tickets, custom jerseys, Trasco's 883 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: club passers and parking the two lucky fans each week 884 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: visit Houston Texans dot com slab Dream Big Experience Houston 885 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: Texas dot Com slash Dream Big Experience to enter to win. 886 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: That's a big deal from our friends over a Mattress Firm. 887 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: So a lot of thanks for what they have done 888 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: for all of our shows. For me, I know, they 889 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: sponsored a lot of segments that I've done over the years, 890 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: so I really appreciate them being here. All Right, some 891 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 1: news in the NFL Players of the Week from last week. 892 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: How about this one? And I bring this one up 893 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: because in the offseason there was so much talk about 894 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith going to Atlanta, Was he gonna love Matt Ryan, etc. 895 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: Well he's gonna he must be loving Matt Ryan. Matt 896 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: Ryan's been absolutely fantastic this year. He was named NFC 897 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: Player of the Week throwing for three hundred forty three 898 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns to beat the Saints. He completed 899 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: seventy seven percent of his passes had a one thirty 900 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: five point eight rating over the AFC. Now Ryan had 901 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty five victory over the AFC. This quarterback 902 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: led his team to a twenty seven twenty four victory 903 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: over the Philadelphia Eagles, and that would be charges quarterback 904 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. He cut. These numbers are sick. He had 905 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: three total touchdowns, two passing, one rushing. He completed thirty 906 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: two of thirty eight that's eighty four point two percent. 907 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: That's free throw shooting. I mean, that's crazy. He three 908 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: for three hundred and fifty six yards and a one 909 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: twenty three point two rating. I'm trying to I've never 910 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: understood rating. I really did a quarterback rating. It makes 911 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: no sense to me. Whatsoever. You complete eighty four percent 912 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: of your passes, two touchdowns, three hundred fifty six yards, 913 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: but your rating is lower than a guy who had 914 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: a lower completion percentage but had what. I don't understand 915 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: how the rating. This rating doesn't make sense. How Matt 916 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: Ryan gould have one thirty five point eight and Herbert 917 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: have a one twenty three point two. Neither one threw 918 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: a pick, a higher completion percentage, more yards, same number 919 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: of touchdowns. I don't get it. I don't get it. 920 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: Defense Player of the Week and the AFC went to 921 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who intercepted Josh Allen. Yeah, it was kind 922 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: of fun. People had fun with that all week. But 923 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: Jacksonviell Jaguars defense event. Josh Allen was outstanding. Eight tackles, 924 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: a sack, to tacks for lost interception in form of 925 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: recovery against Bills quarterback and potential MVP candidate. All though 926 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: the Bills, but are getting going that offense led by 927 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: the other Josh Allen in particular. All Right, we gotta 928 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: get to our buddy Chris Conley, who did a little 929 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: deep slant with Deep City. This is fun stuff. You're 930 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: here on the other side of Texans All Access. Welcome 931 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: back this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. We got 932 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: one hour down and one hour ago right here on 933 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: our flagship sports radio six ten, or if you're listening 934 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: to it on podcasts. Thank you very much for listening 935 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: on podcasts and then time. It's just a flat circle thing. 936 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: So to guy, I'm your host, John Harris Football out 937 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: of Sideline Reporter Glad to be with You, and the 938 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: second half of the show is going to be the 939 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: deep slant featuring our own dep City, and she had 940 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: a great deep slant with Chris connolly man. They hit 941 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: on so many different topics, and of course that is 942 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: if you know Chris Connley, we've got to know him 943 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, you understand that is just par for 944 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: the course. This guy is brilliant, He is unique, he 945 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: is innovative, he is all those things. He is very, 946 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: very fun. Some people might even call him a renaissance man. 947 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: If you will, I don't know, go with it. But 948 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: Chris Connley is a really cool dude, and cool dudes 949 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: they meet right here. Dep City Chris Connley, let's go 950 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: all right. So, one of the first things that I 951 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,919 Speaker 1: learned about you when you signed with the Texans went 952 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: I write this series called Get to Know And just 953 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: in a very cursor research of you, saw your film Retribution, 954 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: the Star Wars fan film that you made at Georgia. 955 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: So I learned very quickly that you're a big Star 956 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 1: Wars buff. So I watched it. It's twenty six minutes. 957 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: It feels like a short feature film. It's pretty intense. 958 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 1: You've got stormtroopers, you've got battle scenes, you've got special effects, 959 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: you've got cameos, you've got extras. How long did something 960 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: like that take for you to put together? You wrote it, 961 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: directed it, and started it right too long? It took 962 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: me too long. I think that the whole the idea 963 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: gathering process for that probably took me a month and 964 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 1: a half. At that point, I didn't know anything about 965 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: writing scripts, and so it was really just an outline 966 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: of what I wanted to happen. Then after that it 967 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: was more of like the idea of Okay, I wanted 968 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: to have the sort of choreographed fights that were in it, 969 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: and so then that took Finding the people who would 970 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,280 Speaker 1: be involved in that took me another month, and choreographing 971 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: and practicing those fights took another month, and then putting 972 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: together gathering these groups of people and finding the people 973 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: who had the knowledge that I didn't have at the 974 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: time to make something like that happen. So all in all, 975 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: all that process probably took six to eight months, and 976 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,959 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from it. You know, they'd say, 977 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: if you don't look back at your earlier films and cringe. 978 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: Then you didn't. You didn't do it right. But I 979 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: I that's like the number one thing that people when 980 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: they talk about my love for like storytelling or filmmaking, 981 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: that's the number one thing that they bring up because 982 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: obviously that was my first one. And it's also it 983 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: kind of went viral back then. But I just it 984 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: makes me cringe. What makes you cringe about I thought 985 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: it was I thought that was for a college student 986 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 1: to put something like that together. I expected far less, 987 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: to be honest, because it was a college production, but 988 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,439 Speaker 1: it seemed pretty high quality. It's I mean, I don't 989 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: know how much money you had and how much time 990 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 1: you had to do it, But what makes you cringe 991 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: about it? None? Really, But it's the fact that what 992 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: I know now about storytelling and being efficient with the 993 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: time that you have a viewer. Obviously it's twenty six 994 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: minutes long. I didn't know anything about what a short 995 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: film is. You want to keep a short film under 996 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: fifteen it a mini feature? Oh yeah, it's definitely. I've 997 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: I crossed the ball. I crossed the line big time. 998 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: But there were so many ideas that I had that 999 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: I put all of my ideas into the film. And 1000 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: one of the things that you learn as you mature 1001 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: as a writer and as a creator. And there's a 1002 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 1: saying and they say, it's like killing your little babies, 1003 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 1: and it's like all the little all the little things 1004 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: that you love, all the little ideas that you think 1005 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: are so cool, when it comes to a project, you 1006 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: have to learn how to get rid of them. You 1007 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: have to learn how to cut them out. You have 1008 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: to cut all the excess and the fat off the 1009 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: bone and really just leave the meat there and get 1010 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 1: to the point and grab a viewer's attention, keep that attention, 1011 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: convey and tell a short story in as short time 1012 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: as possible and then get out. And so that's that's 1013 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: really what good filmmaking is. Good filmmaking can tell great 1014 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: filmmaking can tell so many storylines in a short amount 1015 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: of time, in a concise amount of space. And that's 1016 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: really what I've been working on and learning. And when 1017 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: I watch that, it's just it's just idea vomit, and 1018 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 1: it's just all maybe you needed an editor, you needed 1019 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: someone with, you know, an objective point of view. I 1020 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: had an editor. I didn't edit that video at that 1021 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 1: babies too, I take it, yeah, put everything in there. 1022 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: At that point, I didn't know how to operate a 1023 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: camera myself. At that point, I didn't know how to 1024 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: I could use basic editing software. I didn't know anything 1025 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: about tempo or anything like that. So editing and color 1026 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: grading work something that I did. So I had other 1027 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,720 Speaker 1: people doing all of that, and when I saw things 1028 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: at the end, I just had, you know, some basic 1029 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't really like how long this is 1030 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: or how long, but it wasn't really in depth. Now, 1031 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: when I when I do a film, I'd either like 1032 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 1: to get sent every single draft that comes from an editor, 1033 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: or I'd like to be in the room with them 1034 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: as they're editing. And because really your vision has to 1035 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: be it has to be as close to that original 1036 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: vision that you wrote as possible. And then also like 1037 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: you have to be the person to when it comes 1038 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,919 Speaker 1: down to it, is willing to cut things short and say, 1039 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 1: hey we're going over here, Hey we're lingering too long 1040 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: on this moment, or in the rare chance that there 1041 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 1: is an artistic moment that really happens that shines through 1042 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: on set, let it breathe a little bit. And I 1043 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: feel like that is something that as a director for 1044 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,919 Speaker 1: your vision. You have to be there to say because 1045 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: an editor might have a completely different sense of what's 1046 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: going on on the screen, and a small edit can 1047 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 1: completely change the tone of a piece. These feel like 1048 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: nuanced These feel like very small, nuanced things that you 1049 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 1: just gather over time. But it sounds to me like 1050 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: you want to direct again. I want to make another 1051 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: movie again sometime in the future. Yeah, is that what 1052 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: you're you think that you might do it again. I've 1053 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: made I've done something creative every offseason that I've been 1054 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: in the league, whether that's shooting a short film, producing 1055 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: like the mini series that we did here with The 1056 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: Command Cravings, I've done something. I've probably shot at this point, 1057 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: I think I've shot five or six short films since Retribution, 1058 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: and every single time trying to tackle another hurdle. In 1059 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 1: the filmmaking world, there's a lot of problems that arise 1060 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: when you're trying to tell a story. There's so many 1061 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: things that come up, and there's a lot of dues 1062 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: and don'ts, and I like to try to tackle the 1063 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: don't so that I can understand why it's a don't, 1064 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: and so I know, you know, if there comes a 1065 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: time where I need to use that technique or need 1066 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: to be in this situation. I've done it before and 1067 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: I can tackle it. You know, things like show, don't Tell. 1068 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 1: I've done like entire short films that have no audio. 1069 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: I've done a short film where I had no crew, 1070 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: where I did it as a running gun one man. 1071 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: I set the camera, I pulled the focus. I was 1072 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: in it, I edited it, I colored it. I did everything. 1073 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: I've done short film where I used anamorphix, big heavy, 1074 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: expensive lenses that add to your you know, your time 1075 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: on set in the preparation, and I've I've tried to 1076 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: really like push myself to learn more about even roles 1077 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: that I might not be in charge of on set. 1078 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: On a lot of my larger project projects, I'm just directing. 1079 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm just the writer director. I don't have to pull focus. 1080 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't have to I'm not the gaffer. I don't 1081 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: have to light things. But I did all of that 1082 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: just so that I would have a greater knowledge base 1083 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: for the next time that I'm on set, so I 1084 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: can be maybe a little more technical when I'm talking 1085 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: to my crew, I can be a little more sensitive 1086 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 1: when I'm talking to my actors and coaching them through 1087 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: a scene and trying to get their best performance. I 1088 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: feel like, well, when I was watching Retribution, you had 1089 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, he had a cameo, and you had your 1090 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: coach in there, and it only it makes me wonder 1091 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,399 Speaker 1: if you did a film now, a Star Wars sort 1092 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: of a film with your current Texans teammates, who would 1093 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: you cast and in what role would you cast them? 1094 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: I feel like you've got some potential there in the 1095 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: locker room. There's a lot of potential. There's there's tons. 1096 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: I I don't think I would do it again per se, 1097 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: but I'll because for the reason everyone says that they 1098 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: want to be in a film until they realize what 1099 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: the call time is. You know, obviously Retribution was my 1100 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: first project. I was in college. I had nothing else 1101 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 1: to do. I could literally be out on campus shooting 1102 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 1: all day and not eat and it'd be fine. And 1103 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: college students had no problem with that. Now, but now, 1104 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: when you have like actual crews, you have limits. You 1105 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: got you got salaries, you got you know this, and 1106 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: there's rules. So that's the reason call times are so early. 1107 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: So everybody goes, oh, I want to be I want 1108 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 1: to be in your next film. And you tell them, okay, 1109 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: the call time for extras is four thirty or five am, 1110 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 1: and none of them show up. And you're not getting 1111 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: paid either because you're not getting you're not getting paid. 1112 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: I have to pick. There's certain people I have to 1113 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,439 Speaker 1: pay that have to be there. You're not getting paid. 1114 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: But um, who would I cast? Yeah, let's just say, 1115 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: let's just say that they're all going, they're all really 1116 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 1: willing to just show up at four in the morning 1117 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: for call time. You don't have to pay them. They're 1118 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: gonna happily do it. Who would who would you cast? 1119 00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 1: Who would be your your leading protagonist, leading villain, your stress? 1120 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 1: How would you star Wars characters? Let filin, let's put 1121 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: your let's put your teammates and staring. I'm going sith 1122 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 1: Lord is uh? The fifth Lord is definitely Tyrod, not 1123 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: because he's a bad guy, but because he just has 1124 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: the hair for it, right. He has very very dramatic 1125 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 1: I call him Frederick Douglass all the time because he 1126 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: takes out his braids. He's got the Frederick Douglas do 1127 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,359 Speaker 1: going on. And I can just I can already see 1128 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: at what I don't want makeup to do with his 1129 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: eyebrows and his you know, his beard and stuff. I 1130 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: can make Tyrod look like a menace, Okay, And so 1131 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: I would definitely have him as you know, like the 1132 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,959 Speaker 1: old sith Lord, pulling the strings and things like that. 1133 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: I guess you know I could do. Uh, man, this 1134 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: is there's there's so many there's so many, so many 1135 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: options and things that you could do. You need your 1136 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: you need your gun slinger, your your young gun. Uh 1137 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, we could put we can make Han Solo, 1138 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: could be Davis. Davis could be the Hunt okay character. 1139 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: He doesn't talk enough for that though, so you got 1140 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: to know the personalities a guy. Yeah, Davis doesn't talk 1141 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: a lot. He's not the smooth the smooth talker. We'll go. 1142 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: We could go Justin Reid. Yeah, we can do. We're 1143 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: just swapping him out. Yeah, Justin will swap him out. 1144 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: He's got to be the silent the silent type. Yeah, Pharaoh. 1145 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: Pharaoh could be Chewbacca because they're the same size technically. 1146 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a lot of there's a lot 1147 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: of Luke ways. You can go at that. Luke Skywalker, man, 1148 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: that's tough. Luke Darth Vader, You've got some that is tough. 1149 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, so I am one percent a fan of originality. 1150 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: If you're going to make even a fan film of 1151 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: an established IP such as Star Wars, you shouldn't use 1152 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: established characters. The universe is so big that you do 1153 00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: it a disservice by recasting an icon instead of telling 1154 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: a new story. Oh okay, of someone. Just create new stories, 1155 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: creating news stories, create new characters. That's what I'm hoping 1156 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: that they're going to do with the you know, the 1157 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: company that actually owns the IP, because there's there's so 1158 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: many great things that could happen, and I think the 1159 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,760 Speaker 1: best way to respect it and to respect Star Wars 1160 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: fans is to tell new stories. And I'd think that 1161 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: you know, what you've seen from these Disney Plus shows, 1162 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, the Mandalorian and things have really really shown that. 1163 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 1: And that's my that's my serious Star Wars fan talking. 1164 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: Then well, okay, so I have a serious Star Wars 1165 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: question for you. So when you go for people that 1166 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 1: haven't watched any of it, there's always this discussion of 1167 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: what order, what's the order do you watch it in? 1168 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I have my opinion, and I'm sure you 1169 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: have yours. You watch it in chronological order, as in 1170 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 1: how the series of events actually happened, or do you 1171 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: watch it in the order of release. Do you watch 1172 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: all the movies first and then watch the shows, or 1173 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,240 Speaker 1: do you intersperse the TV shows into the movies into 1174 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: some sort of timeline there. So I'll put it this way. 1175 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,720 Speaker 1: The shows always need to come after the movies because 1176 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: shows can introduce things and concepts that you don't understand 1177 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: at all. Now, the only exception to that is the Mandalorian. 1178 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: It can kind of stand alone on its own. It 1179 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: is a space western, it is a gun slingers show, 1180 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: So you can watch it all on its own and 1181 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 1: know nothing about stars. Right, You're just watching a Western. 1182 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: But all the other TV shows you need to have 1183 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of contacts with those contacts with those. Now, 1184 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: when it comes to the films, I always break it 1185 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 1: down this way. If you are a person who appreciates 1186 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: the art and the history of the film industry, I'd 1187 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: say watch them in the order that they came out, 1188 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: because each of the movies were absolutely groundbreaking and revolutionary 1189 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 1: for their time. It came to the effects, when it 1190 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: came to storytelling, everything, the visuals, the music, it was 1191 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: all it was all so ahead of its time, and 1192 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: it connected with a whole generation. So if you appreciate 1193 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 1: the art of film, watch them in the order that 1194 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: they were made, and you'll learn a lot about where 1195 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,399 Speaker 1: certain techniques came from. You'll learn a lot about where 1196 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: other influences in sci fi and action in drama where 1197 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 1: they were gleaned from Star Wars, which gleaned from doone okay, side, Well, 1198 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: I agree with you because I think that there's certain 1199 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 1: surprises that when the movies came out, the fans were 1200 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: shocked and surprised, and I think if you watch it 1201 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 1: out of order, you won't have that same reaction that 1202 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: some of us have when we watched the This is 1203 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: the only caveat though, if you're not someone who respects 1204 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: the art and the history of film, I would say 1205 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: watch them in the order that they happen, which is 1206 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: watching the episode one, two, three, because I feel like 1207 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 1: some people don't give it the time to get into 1208 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: the story. If they're watching an old movie and they 1209 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: don't appreciate old movies for what they are, They go, 1210 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 1: why am I watching this? Like I don't even understand 1211 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: what's happening. Get to the action and really, those movies 1212 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,320 Speaker 1: weren't about the action. They did have ground baking action, 1213 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,320 Speaker 1: they did have industrial lighte magic, did have these groundbreaking 1214 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, V effects scenes and all of these things, 1215 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: but like, it wasn't about that. It was about the story. 1216 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: It was about the characters and their development. And so 1217 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: if you don't appreciate that, definitely watch the new ones 1218 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: because they will grab you with the action and you 1219 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: will be able to glean a little bit from the story. 1220 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: And maybe after watching those three then you'll be interested 1221 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: enough to say, Okay, well let's see what happens after that, 1222 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, and then they'll stay they'll stay connected. But really, 1223 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: like the getting into the Star Wars fandom for a 1224 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: lot of people is about being at the impressionable age 1225 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: where those movies could take you somewhere far from here 1226 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: and you can learn things about morality. You can learn 1227 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 1: things about the struggle between good and evil. You can 1228 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 1: learn things about being enough in a world that sometimes 1229 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: doesn't think that or from the outside wild say that 1230 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 1: you're not, you know, and that that right there next 1231 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: with a lot of people. That's deep stuff, Chris, that's 1232 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 1: really such a fandom around it, all right, You all 1233 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: You've always been into sci fi and science. And I 1234 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: read somewhere that you when you were in third grade 1235 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: one a science science for a competition. Do you remember 1236 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: what your project was? Yeah, so it was for a 1237 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 1: science fair. And I was one of the kids who 1238 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: really hated science fair. Really I didn't. I didn't want 1239 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: to spend a week of my life preparing. You know, 1240 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: they had those cardboard fold out yeah, yeah, yeah, things. 1241 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go home. That's it's not a 1242 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 1: project and do something, make a presentation about something that 1243 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: one hundred kids before me had done. And so I 1244 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: was looking for any loophole I could find, not to 1245 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 1: make a presentation about something that everyone already knew about, okay, 1246 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: And one of the loopholes I found was in the 1247 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: fine print it said or an invention. You know, so 1248 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: you invented something it was about, Yeah, it was about 1249 00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 1: a process or and it said or invention. They really 1250 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: didn't want you doing inventions. Most people were making, you know, 1251 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: volcanoes or talking about But I basically took the part 1252 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: where it said an invention, and I looked for a 1253 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: problem in our world to solve it. And that was 1254 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: at the time where Razors scooters where the biggest thing 1255 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem that long ago. Okay, you were in 1256 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: third grade when that happened. Everyone was riding razors scooters, 1257 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: those metal scooters that when they hit you in the 1258 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: shin you got a big knight and hurt. Yeah, everybody 1259 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: was riding those. And I noticed that everyone in my 1260 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 1: col de sac, all the kids had them, even if 1261 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 1: they had like you know, the off brand, the cheap ones. 1262 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: Everybody had a scooter. And that was just the mode 1263 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: of transportation. I'm going to Jimmy's house, I'm taking my scooters. 1264 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 1: And they could literally walk across the lawn to Jimmy's house, 1265 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 1: but they rode the scooters. When they would get there, 1266 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: they would just drop the scooter on the ground and 1267 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: go into his garage or something. So there were scooters 1268 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: all over the lawns, and I was like, you know what, 1269 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: they need scooter racks, just like they have bike racks. Oh, 1270 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 1: and so I may it was a really primitive you know, 1271 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: obviously I was no carpenter or builder. I made a 1272 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 1: primitive scooter act that you could slide your scooter in, 1273 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, with your handlebars, and it would just go 1274 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: in here and it would stay upright. Oh, I thought 1275 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna say you invented a kickstand for the scooter. 1276 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 1: But that's even better, so that one you the science fair, Well, 1277 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't a science fair that I want. It actually 1278 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: was submitted by one of the teachers at my school 1279 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 1: to the National Young Inventors Program petition every year where 1280 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: they take inventions across the country and they basically try 1281 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: to identify young innovators and basically support them, give them 1282 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity to continue to devote their idea and basically 1283 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: and they get a small scholarship and basically say hey, 1284 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: don't stop inventing. This is how you know our country 1285 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 1: basically moves industries forward. So I won that. I was 1286 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 1: the Craftsman NSTA Young Inventors Program, and I was one 1287 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: of eight finalists. This makes so much more sense because 1288 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 1: I read the prize, which was very very randomous form 1289 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 1: of things to me because I thought it was a 1290 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: science for It was a five thousand dollars savings bond, 1291 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 1: a trip to the Nationals to Chicago with your family, 1292 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: and then a visit with Bob Vila. Yeah of this 1293 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: old house, which I think as a third grader did 1294 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: you know who Bob Vila because Bob Vila was in 1295 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: all the Craftsman commercials back well, yeah, every single Craftsman 1296 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: tool commercial and building this and that. So that's I 1297 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 1: knew who Bob Vila was. Were you super excited to meet? 1298 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: But do you remember meeting Bobula was? But I remember 1299 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: thinking like, man, my idea is okay, I'm not really 1300 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: sure what these other kids were. And boy was I 1301 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 1: right when I got there. These other kids inventions. Like 1302 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: I told you, I made like this little primitive It 1303 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: was like a little block of wood and I had 1304 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: these like angled, you know, pieces of metal that were 1305 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 1: drilled into it so that it was just wide enough 1306 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: for a scooter. And it was like, oh, like that's cute. 1307 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 1: And I'm watching like these other kids. This one kid 1308 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: like invented like a way to like a machine to 1309 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 1: automatic lee. I think it was like to water crops 1310 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: or something like that. And I'm like, you're in the 1311 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 1: same age as me. I was like, oh yeah, I'm not. 1312 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm in a room full of savants. And I just 1313 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: was like, they're not going to be Razor scooters on 1314 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: your cul de sac anymore. So that was a huge 1315 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 1: problem at the time. Yeah, well, you know, the scooters 1316 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 1: aren't as big of a thing anymore, but I still 1317 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 1: do see. You know, these these Bird and Lime scooters 1318 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: all over the ground. They were everywhere. They could have 1319 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 1: installed scooter rex all the way back then. We could 1320 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: still be using them all right, So are you in 1321 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 1: a squid game? You know? I watched the first episode 1322 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 1: was it first episode of first two episodes last week? 1323 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: And I am intrigued. Now the problem with that is 1324 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 1: is I want to binge watch it, but no, which 1325 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 1: I watched the first episode with my wife and she 1326 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 1: just had a kid. It's not really timing up with 1327 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 1: the ability to binge watch it, and I know she's 1328 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 1: going to be upset if I watch it. Oh, you 1329 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 1: can't watch it cause I started with it. If I 1330 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 1: would have started it without her, I'd be already done 1331 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: right now. So you're a fan? I am you? Okay, yeah, 1332 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 1: I am. I I think it's I think it's great. 1333 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: I think some people don't like watching foreign shows and 1334 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: films and they don't like subtitles and they don't like Well, 1335 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 1: I didn't think that was I thought the issue was 1336 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: Squid Game wasn't so much the subtitles as it was 1337 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 1: the gore from what I understand, just from what I've 1338 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: heard about it, I don't mind it. Don't mind it. 1339 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: The premise is interest. Like for people that don't know, 1340 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 1: it's it's basically a childhood game that you play and 1341 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 1: if you if you fail, if you fail, you die. 1342 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: It's pretty easy. So what what what? What would be 1343 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 1: your squid game of choice? What would be your game 1344 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: of a childhood game of choice? I don't know. I 1345 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: haven't watched the whole I haven't watched the whole first 1346 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 1: season yet, so I don't really if you have a 1347 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: game from your childhood that you think that you would 1348 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 1: bet on yourself that you would win that game, I mean, 1349 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 1: I think that the whole idea of childhood games is 1350 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 1: just and I think this is where the show really succeeds, 1351 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 1: is the whole idea of the fact that when you 1352 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 1: when you play childhood games as a kid, you didn't 1353 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 1: really fear anything. You know, when you were a kid, 1354 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: you thought you were invincible. You jumped off the jungle gym, 1355 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, playing the floor's lava. You know, you you 1356 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 1: would climb across the highest part because the floor was lava, 1357 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: but you were literally fearless and really playing with the 1358 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 1: idea of something that we relate to in such a 1359 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 1: such an area of comfort and then flipping it on 1360 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 1: its head and making it dangerous. I think that's one 1361 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: of the psychological bits of that show that just makes 1362 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 1: it so intriguing to everyone. But I feel like, if 1363 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: I had to pick, oh, that's scary, I loved I 1364 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 1: love playing dodgeball. I feel like, if you're playing squid 1365 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 1: game dodgeball, you're gonna die. Well, you're a professional football player, 1366 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 1: so you do have a leg up on your competition. 1367 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,919 Speaker 1: You know. I'm in my mind when I think about 1368 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 1: playing dodgeball, I think about playing with dodgeball with other 1369 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 1: people like me, and that's that's a tough game dodgeball. 1370 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about playing. I'm pretty sure that you're 1371 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 1: you're all ten others. Yeah, that is not a bet 1372 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 1: I want to take. Or if I'm playing dodgeball in 1373 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: squid Game with the guys in this locker room and 1374 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: it's not just the lineman, I'm not taking that bet. Yeah, 1375 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 1: just people are too athletic at this point. That makes 1376 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: sense to me. I'm thinking in society, you'd probably you'd 1377 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 1: probably do pretty well with squid Game Dodgeball. I had 1378 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: to guess, Hey, when your life's on the line, all right, Chris, Well, 1379 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: you mentioned the baby, so I have to ask you 1380 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: what's surprised you most. I know it's early on, but 1381 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 1: anything could really stand out to you or surprised you 1382 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: about being a dad so far. I think I would 1383 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: say the fact that she's very attentive. She's very like 1384 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 1: I get, I get the best I tell people, I 1385 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 1: get the best parts of the baby because when I 1386 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:50,440 Speaker 1: come home, she's just awake, eyes open, uh, not crying, 1387 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: not screaming, nothing. She just wants to sit there and 1388 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 1: hang out. But I have help, you know, my my 1389 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 1: sister was here, my mother in law was here, and 1390 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 1: they have been watching the baby during the night. So 1391 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: I've been able to sleep at night and you know, 1392 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: do my recovery and get ready for practice. But I 1393 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 1: definitely was not expecting her to have such a like 1394 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: one eighty change. You know. She goes from being like 1395 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 1: so cool, calm and everything's fine with dad, and then I, 1396 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, get downstairs in the morning as I'm leaving 1397 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, how did you sleep? It's like 1398 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 1: she did it, you know, really, I've never seen her 1399 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,439 Speaker 1: do that. She's just really so happy when I'm around. 1400 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if she doesn't, like if she cries 1401 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 1: around me, it's for like just like a couple of 1402 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: minutes and then just then it's just cool. She's just chilling. Wow. Yeah. 1403 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,040 Speaker 1: But then like she's apparently she's up all night. Well, 1404 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: you're sleeping, so you wouldn't You just have to take 1405 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: everyone else's word for it that she was Yeah, good 1406 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 1: for you for getting some sleep though. No, she's but 1407 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: she's been, she's been great. She's wide eyed and h 1408 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 1: and beautiful. All right, Well, congratulations, and you know what, 1409 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to hit you up again when some 1410 01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: of these Star Wars, these prequels and sequels come out 1411 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 1: and get your thoughts on him. I know I'm terrified, 1412 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 1: but I hope, I'm I'm such a fan that I'm 1413 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: actually I'm hopeful with you know, with the leadership that 1414 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: they've kind of allowed to do their thing now, letting 1415 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 1: directors tell their stories instead of telling a director what 1416 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 1: story to tell, you know, I think that's a good 1417 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 1: model for filmmaking. I hope that they continue to do that. 1418 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 1: Let people tell the stories you know you brought him 1419 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: in to tell a story. Let him tell it. I 1420 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,439 Speaker 1: like it. He's very hopeful and optimistic about Star Wars. Yeah, 1421 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 1: good to know. All right, Thanks Chris, thank you so 1422 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 1: much for the time, No problem, Thanks for having me 1423 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 1: as the father of a daughter who is in acting. Yes, 1424 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: let them tell their stories, absolutely, all right. When we 1425 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: get back, how about the Texans sack leader John Grenard 1426 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 1: doing a little deep slant with Deepcity. That's next, the 1427 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 1: Texans Axis, Exo Texans, Axis, Exo Texans, Axis, Exo Texans. 1428 01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 1: I am going off on adventure after the show tonight, 1429 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 1: and I can promise you'll be driving back a late 1430 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 1: ish And the way that I go home, I pass 1431 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 1: of Freddy's and it just sucks me in all the time. 1432 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 1: Every time I see it, I just all right, I 1433 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 1: gotta go in. I gotta get the concrete. I gotta 1434 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,839 Speaker 1: get cheese curds. I gotta get you know, steakburgers, Freddy's 1435 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Frozen Custer and steakburgers. Is all about the good in 1436 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 1: creating more of it, More drive through celebrations, more road 1437 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: trips around the block, more family dinners and lunches, more 1438 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 1: car picnics and desserts, maybe even more second desserts. Yeah, 1439 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 1: you gotta do that more. Being together as much as 1440 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 1: we can. With seventeen area locations in the Houston area, 1441 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Freddy's keeps the good going with the taste that brings 1442 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,679 Speaker 1: you back. Now, I know our next guest probably doesn't 1443 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 1: hit of Freddie's. Maybe the offseason as a cheat meal, 1444 01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: maybe the same. Maybe that our buddy John Grewnd would 1445 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 1: hop over to Freddy's. He should because it's excellent, there's 1446 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: no doubt. But I know how football players are NFL players. 1447 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 1: They got to keep their body in mind and all that. 1448 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 1: And you know, the stuff at Freddie's is fantastic, but 1449 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,600 Speaker 1: it's not gonna help you waistline. I'll tell you that. 1450 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 1: I'll just be honest with you. But it's fantastic. But 1451 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 1: John Grenard will definitely hit some chiefs courage in a 1452 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,479 Speaker 1: turtle concrete with me. I know that. Well, he didn't 1453 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 1: have those two things, but he did have Deep City 1454 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: and they did a little deep slant John Grenard a 1455 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: deep city right here. Jonathan Grenard bright spot, as head 1456 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 1: coach David Culley describes him, how has it been for 1457 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 1: you in year two? Just healthy, getting back on the field, 1458 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,680 Speaker 1: getting some plays out there. It's fun. I think just 1459 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,639 Speaker 1: with a new field of everything, you know, with new 1460 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: coaching staff, new players as well. I think overall would 1461 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 1: just kind of have that that new field and I 1462 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 1: think we're all hungry. I think we all kind of 1463 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,640 Speaker 1: got us clean slate here, and I think just all 1464 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 1: of us jumping together, all having that same mindset. You know, 1465 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 1: some guys are on one year deals and stuff like that. 1466 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 1: They're just trying to put their best foot forward. And 1467 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 1: I think when you have that all in the room 1468 01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 1: in general, not just on the defensive side, but on 1469 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 1: the other side as well, on all aspects, it helps 1470 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,719 Speaker 1: everybody just say, one thing, you don't have to worry about, 1471 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: this effort, and I think that one thing keeps driving 1472 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 1: us to make the plays and stuff like that. All right, 1473 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: speaking of effort, you've had multi sack back to back games. 1474 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: So two sacks and back to back games. It seems 1475 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: like you're really getting to the quarterback. It's something different 1476 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 1: for you this year. What's what's been your secret to 1477 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 1: really getting after these quarterbacks. Yeah, I think last year 1478 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 1: just getting my feet weight a little bit, understanding how 1479 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 1: the game goes helped me out a lot in those aspects, 1480 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 1: just to get a feel for it, but definitely just 1481 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: to continue just to keep playing. Like I said, with 1482 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 1: us with this new staff, new system, and a new 1483 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 1: scheme we run, it's just lets people play. Lets the 1484 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,080 Speaker 1: guys just go. You know, getting your gap gives you 1485 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 1: assignment and not to think that much and just go 1486 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 1: make plays. So I think once the thinking aspect was 1487 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,600 Speaker 1: taken out of it, especially coming from last year with 1488 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,600 Speaker 1: a different defense, I was just able to go. And 1489 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 1: I think that's what we're saying now, just me just 1490 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 1: continues to be relentless and effort just so that I 1491 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 1: can try to make the most plays with the team. 1492 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 1: You're also getting after the running backs. I don't want 1493 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 1: to just say you're getting after the quarterbacks. The year 1494 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 1: one to year to jump. That's something that we hear 1495 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 1: a lot about. You're still really young, you're early in 1496 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,640 Speaker 1: your career. But how different are you now than you 1497 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 1: were a year ago. Yeah, I'm just more confident, and 1498 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 1: I think overall, just like I said, having that year 1499 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 1: in the league, understanding that you know, it's it's still 1500 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 1: football at end of the day. Most people can say that, 1501 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 1: but actually knowing that when you're on the field is 1502 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 1: a totally different thing. And I think when I just 1503 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 1: put that to the side and understand, okay, it's football, 1504 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: end the day, these guys put this stuff on the 1505 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 1: same way, and the stuff that you work on the 1506 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: off season use it. I mean, these are things that 1507 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, you don't work on it for nothing, and 1508 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 1: these are things that guys probably haven't seen you ask 1509 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 1: some new tea repertoire. So I think the successions comes 1510 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 1: for that. Now. I work really hard in the off 1511 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: season and even still to this want, I still work 1512 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,680 Speaker 1: hard to keep my body right so that way I 1513 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 1: can't make these plays on a weekend and week out. 1514 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: So I'm excited. I mean, this is just the beginning 1515 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 1: for me. I'm still excited for where this team goes. 1516 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a lot in the tank. I 1517 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,880 Speaker 1: think we just got to now just put it on tape, 1518 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: just finish it out so that we can get the 1519 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 1: result we want to get. Yeah, obviously not the result 1520 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,600 Speaker 1: that you guys want so far. Levi Smith said, you know, 1521 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 1: we think the sack numbers are really high for you. 1522 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,040 Speaker 1: But Levie Smith said that you probably that you still 1523 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 1: left some sacks on the field. Do you feel that 1524 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 1: in game? Do you feel like, oh that was that 1525 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:00,840 Speaker 1: was a missed opportunity or something that you go back 1526 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: and you watch the film and you see it. It's 1527 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of both. But majority of times I 1528 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: see it or I feel it, like as soon as 1529 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 1: the play happens, I come to the sideline like I 1530 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,840 Speaker 1: should have had that one, Like I just know that, 1531 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,439 Speaker 1: you know, in the closing and I got tripped up. 1532 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:12,600 Speaker 1: I knew I should have had that one. Or a 1533 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: holding call. You just see that, you know, whether you 1534 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 1: cleared his hand or that's that goes back to your training, 1535 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, clearing those hands so that where they can't 1536 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 1: hold you, so that where you don't not get the sacks, 1537 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 1: all those little small details that you have to hone 1538 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 1: in on. And I, as d Linman or anybody knows 1539 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 1: when you when you missed the play because of a 1540 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,960 Speaker 1: technique thing, you know instantly. Okay, so I've read that 1541 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 1: you actually started playing football. It was a funny story. 1542 01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 1: You were at four years old and somebody approached your 1543 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 1: mom about whether or not you played football. Yeah, it 1544 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,320 Speaker 1: was funny, she says it to this day. And I 1545 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,200 Speaker 1: remember the day, but I just don't remember the way 1546 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:46,559 Speaker 1: she explains it. So, I mean, I was just a 1547 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 1: kid out there playing football having fun. And you know, 1548 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 1: my coach at the time, it was like he just 1549 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,920 Speaker 1: conn't play football, and I never knew anything about it. 1550 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,639 Speaker 1: So when they brought my mom and my dad brought 1551 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 1: it to us, me and my brother, he was he 1552 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,560 Speaker 1: was bigger than I was, so you knew he was 1553 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,519 Speaker 1: playing offensive line. But I was going to play running back. 1554 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 1: But I started off as alignment as well, and it 1555 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 1: took for me to take a handoff as a nose guard. 1556 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 1: I ended up running through the line taking a hand 1557 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 1: off back literally out of the quarterback's hand. It was like, okay, 1558 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,040 Speaker 1: well this kid's playing running back. And I honestly play 1559 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,479 Speaker 1: running back all the way up until like my nine 1560 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 1: tenth grade the year of high school. So and then 1561 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:17,880 Speaker 1: they moved me to I made the transition to the the 1562 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 1: tight end receiver in D line. So those dreams of 1563 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 1: those days over once I hit a gross spurt, so 1564 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,679 Speaker 1: I couldn't play running back anymore. You're on the defensive 1565 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 1: though you could still you could still get the ball 1566 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,680 Speaker 1: in your hands, but it didn't have to be a 1567 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 1: major play for that to happen. All right. You said 1568 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 1: something once in an interview that really intrigued me. You said, 1569 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,439 Speaker 1: we never knew as kids what we were going through 1570 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 1: until we were older and realized what was going on. 1571 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: At that time, you said your mom made it seem 1572 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,760 Speaker 1: like you were living in high fashion. Yeah, for sure. 1573 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 1: So how did your mom make you feel that you 1574 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 1: were living a big life when you were Yeah, I 1575 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,680 Speaker 1: just got to know her. I mean it's I can 1576 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 1: explain it, but she has this energy sometimes or we 1577 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 1: didn't realize it back then, but I mean she just 1578 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,639 Speaker 1: makes she's how to keep everything calm. I mean, she's 1579 01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 1: been through so much of her life to know, you know, 1580 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 1: how whether any storm. Honestly, it's so many stories we 1581 01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 1: have grown up, me, my brother, and my sister of us. 1582 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,240 Speaker 1: Just like I said, we thought we were living lavash. 1583 01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,840 Speaker 1: But I mean we look back now and it's like, okay, 1584 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 1: well we did. We struggled a little bit. I mean, 1585 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,519 Speaker 1: like everybody has their stories. We had tough times, but 1586 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,479 Speaker 1: you would never know under the under that roof. I 1587 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,720 Speaker 1: mean were times where it was money was sight, with 1588 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 1: food was sight. But we had a meal somehow, whether 1589 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: it was scrapped together or not. We we ate, so 1590 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 1: that's all I knew. My stomach was full, I had 1591 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,200 Speaker 1: closed my back, shoes on my feet, and the roof 1592 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 1: over my head, and that's all that. That's all that mattered. 1593 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 1: And then she didn't. She didn't put that on us. 1594 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 1: She didn't cast the stress of words on us. And 1595 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 1: you never seen it on her face. She will come 1596 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,760 Speaker 1: into the house, Hey, how are you doing, babe? Get 1597 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 1: us kids and all that, and she straighten the cooking 1598 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 1: every week, I mean every day. I mean it's just 1599 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 1: like a routine for her. So that hats off to 1600 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 1: I love that later to death, and those are things 1601 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 1: that you know, you take pride in and you chair 1602 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,880 Speaker 1: those moments because of the struggle that she not only 1603 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 1: where we going through, but to think about what she 1604 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 1: had to mask all of that. And and my sister, 1605 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,680 Speaker 1: she was older than all the She's ten years older 1606 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,000 Speaker 1: than me, so at the time she kind of knew 1607 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 1: what was going on. But obviously hats off to her 1608 01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 1: as well. She never let that be known with us 1609 01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 1: as me and me and my brother being the youngest, 1610 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 1: we didn't know any of that was going on. They 1611 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 1: were letting you guys, have just a normal, care free 1612 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 1: childhood out At what point did you realize that things 1613 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: were tougher than she let on. I think it was 1614 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 1: when I was mister story as well, when we were 1615 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 1: in the recruiting process. I was a senior in high 1616 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 1: school or going into my senior year, and we went 1617 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 1: for a visit of the UK for a camp University Kentucky, 1618 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,640 Speaker 1: and we went up there, and obviously things and go 1619 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,960 Speaker 1: as planning, and we had to make a transition down 1620 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 1: to Louisville. But at the time, we only had our 1621 01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,160 Speaker 1: plans to go to UK at the time money wise, 1622 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,759 Speaker 1: but we ended up having to scrap something, some stuff together, 1623 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,639 Speaker 1: some coins together, and end up calling people to send 1624 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,519 Speaker 1: money so that we were able to go to Louisville 1625 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 1: and hell even make it back home so from Kentucky, 1626 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 1: which it wasn't which is like I said, Louisville to Georgia, 1627 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 1: that's about five and a half hours. Ye, so, um, 1628 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,519 Speaker 1: gas ain't cheap. So when when when those situations arose? 1629 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,639 Speaker 1: I think that was my time And I said, okay, 1630 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 1: well I see how it is now. I understand that 1631 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, money doesn't grow on trees. I mean, this 1632 01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: is money is not just a thing that we don't 1633 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,880 Speaker 1: have to worry about, it's the thing that we My 1634 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: mom definitely makes it a priority for us. So when 1635 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 1: I seen that happen, I instantly I said, well, at 1636 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 1: this point, now, I gotta make it. I gotta be 1637 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,560 Speaker 1: to this point where she does never had to be 1638 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 1: in a situation we had to ask anybody for money 1639 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,800 Speaker 1: or anything that monetary, whatever physical, whatever has to be. 1640 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,320 Speaker 1: She would never have to worry about that again. And 1641 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: I think from that point on, I took it on 1642 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: my shoulder and I said, Okay, I'm gonna get I'm 1643 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 1: gonna take care of Is that the biggest motivation for 1644 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 1: you as far as playing football and why you want 1645 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,040 Speaker 1: to be successful in the NFL? For sure? I think 1646 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 1: not just her, but just my family in general. We just, 1647 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: like I said, it was me and my brother and 1648 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,840 Speaker 1: my sister and my mom pretty much and obviously with 1649 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 1: my father at the time, but it was just basically 1650 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,599 Speaker 1: us pretty much our whole life. So and I think 1651 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,600 Speaker 1: that's why we stick together so much now. I just 1652 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 1: want to take care of them. I mean, they are 1653 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,759 Speaker 1: ones who pretty much, you know, I cried on their shoulders, 1654 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,680 Speaker 1: they cried on my shoulders. We all stuck together, and 1655 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 1: it's not that many of us we got a small 1656 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,960 Speaker 1: circles of family. But just to see the joy in 1657 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,680 Speaker 1: their faces when things when when they have one less 1658 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 1: thing to worry about it that just makes my joy. 1659 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't have to have anything else. But as long 1660 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 1: as they straight, I'm good. Oh that sounds that's really nice. 1661 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 1: You're just so so close to your family. Were you 1662 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,800 Speaker 1: promoting your mom's book recently on social media? Yeah? Go 1663 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,720 Speaker 1: get that my mom. Your mom wrote a book. My 1664 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,200 Speaker 1: mom has a book. Man, it's it's not her life story, 1665 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 1: and I think I really want you all to read it. 1666 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,200 Speaker 1: All right, what's the book called? What's your Mom? Give 1667 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,799 Speaker 1: your mom's name and give the book Miss Carmen Grenard Varnum. 1668 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 1: Her book is By His Grace I'm here. I mean, 1669 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,080 Speaker 1: it's it's literally what the title is. And she's been 1670 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 1: through so much. Her story, her growing up in the 1671 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 1: foster care system to now able to raise three children 1672 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:21,840 Speaker 1: on her own, and then then and obviously with the 1673 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,880 Speaker 1: help of my stepfather, my my father, but but at 1674 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 1: the time, most time she was with my sister by 1675 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,759 Speaker 1: herself when she was young, I mean her her upbringing 1676 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,640 Speaker 1: was really really tough for her to be sane or 1677 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,559 Speaker 1: the same woman with it so much energy. It's amazing. 1678 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 1: Once you read the book and understand the background of 1679 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 1: where she came from, it touched me. I haven't read 1680 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,640 Speaker 1: it yet. I mean, I've not read many books in 1681 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,880 Speaker 1: my life. You're gonna read this one. It's gonna be 1682 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,760 Speaker 1: a book that I pretty much is gonna read from 1683 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 1: talk about him. It's gonna lead some tears. It's gonna 1684 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 1: have tears. You're gonna have. Do you know, do you 1685 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,960 Speaker 1: know your mom's whole story? I know you I know 1686 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 1: majorit of the story. Some stuff she's she's not told 1687 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 1: me all the way, just because she knows how most 1688 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 1: time about her she knows. She knows that certain things 1689 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,720 Speaker 1: that kind of not not I won't. I never would 1690 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,360 Speaker 1: look at her sideways or a different way, but it's 1691 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 1: just to be like, wow, you really went through that. 1692 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,240 Speaker 1: You were You're still here to this day, you know, 1693 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 1: on two feet saying and healthy, which with children looking beautiful. 1694 01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean at fifty four, she just had a birthday. 1695 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,720 Speaker 1: Birthday that actually was on the twenty fourth, So happy birthday, 1696 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 1: shout out to my dude. But yeah, man, I think 1697 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,519 Speaker 1: the book for her she's been talking about She's been 1698 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 1: in the works of it for about a couple of 1699 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 1: years now, a couple of years so from now. Actually 1700 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,080 Speaker 1: to get the story out there published and actually with 1701 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,680 Speaker 1: a book cover with her picture on it. Everything, the 1702 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 1: whole process is a whole process. But every time we 1703 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,200 Speaker 1: talk about the book, I mean she's been writing. I 1704 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,439 Speaker 1: remember she just right chapters just to be writing them 1705 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 1: down and literally in the middle of her writing and 1706 01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 1: she's just breasting out in tears just because of the 1707 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,719 Speaker 1: emotions of going back to the past and stuff like that. 1708 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,599 Speaker 1: But that's why, like I said, her energy, her her 1709 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,720 Speaker 1: drive for determination. I get that from her. I mean, 1710 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,240 Speaker 1: I don't put up with none. She's gonna put up 1711 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 1: on ne either. And I just got that grinding mentality 1712 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 1: she gonna get it some type of way. One thing 1713 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,280 Speaker 1: about my mama hustle. She gonna get it the type 1714 01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,639 Speaker 1: of way. And that's that's why we're in this situation 1715 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 1: we are now because of how she's just poured that 1716 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 1: into me. And I'm bringing that up to they are 1717 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 1: you in the book too? You think you're in the book? 1718 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 1: So I think I know I'm in the book, but 1719 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 1: I think I'll probably come a little bit later on because, 1720 01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,000 Speaker 1: like I think, I mean, so much stuff happened before 1721 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,639 Speaker 1: I was even born. I mean, me and my sister 1722 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 1: were ten years apart, so you gotta think from the 1723 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,160 Speaker 1: ten year point from when my sister was born, and 1724 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 1: obviously my brother were four years apart, and even in 1725 01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 1: those times, I mean, just everything that's transparred between that 1726 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,800 Speaker 1: point in time you'll see and it's like, wow, she's 1727 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,639 Speaker 1: even sane enough to even have two more children after 1728 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,880 Speaker 1: my sister. So it's crazy. My mom. She's a fighter man, 1729 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,840 Speaker 1: She's a warrior. I think when people really get to 1730 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 1: know her and understand her, they will really understand why 1731 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 1: her energy and why she's so loving. My mom has 1732 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 1: no enemies. I mean, if you have an enemy, if 1733 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 1: you're a enemy, and my mom, you gotta check yourself 1734 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 1: to be it's just because I mean, she has always 1735 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,519 Speaker 1: don't get wrong, obviously everybody does, but I think her 1736 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,240 Speaker 1: passion for wanting to you know, many relationships or be 1737 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 1: the person that you can cry on or you know, 1738 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 1: just somebody to the vent too. She wants to be 1739 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,760 Speaker 1: that person and you'll understand why within her book. So 1740 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:10,920 Speaker 1: for y'all out there, Definitely go check out the book. 1741 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 1: It's definitely hitting the stores. She has her books on 1742 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 1: the fourteenth of November. I'll be traveling back for that 1743 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 1: to see that as well. And I'm just happy for her. 1744 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,559 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of her. I mean, that is huge, huge, 1745 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,280 Speaker 1: and it's called by His Grace, By His Grace. It's 1746 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,680 Speaker 1: when I tell you that, that's how it could not 1747 01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,880 Speaker 1: be more fitting than any other title. So she took 1748 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,120 Speaker 1: her time with this one, um, and I think nobody 1749 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 1: will be disappointed. All right. So you talk about her drive, 1750 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,679 Speaker 1: but your drive, you're eighteen credit hours away from getting 1751 01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 1: your mbaye. Have you chipped away to any of that 1752 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 1: or what's your plans for that? With COVID changed everything up. 1753 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,960 Speaker 1: I definitely do anticipate to finish it within this next year, 1754 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 1: really hopefully within the season. Well, the season's got to 1755 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,679 Speaker 1: get through first and then um that offseason. Like I said, really, 1756 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 1: eighteen credit hours is just a full year, to be honest, 1757 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,040 Speaker 1: So I think I can if I have it in 1758 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 1: the tank. I just want to get it out the 1759 01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 1: way while I still have college on my mind. Yeah, 1760 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 1: you're not too far removed from it. Yet I think 1761 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,680 Speaker 1: when I when I get to that point, I know 1762 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 1: I need to get a move on it. But I 1763 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 1: still got a good relationship with the director there at 1764 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,760 Speaker 1: the program um with Parker and guys like that is 1765 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 1: that Florida, So yeah, I sall have a good relationship 1766 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 1: with them. So I pretty much just when I get 1767 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,000 Speaker 1: the time before it, I'm gonna finish it up. That's 1768 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:16,880 Speaker 1: that's something I got to finish out I started it. 1769 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 1: I gotta finish. Are you a good student? Like? How 1770 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:20,719 Speaker 1: are you in the classroom out here in the meeting? 1771 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,719 Speaker 1: It's crazy so high school, I was not the greatest student, 1772 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a matter of me not knowing the information. 1773 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,160 Speaker 1: I just I didn't apply myself. So um, once I 1774 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,080 Speaker 1: actually applied myself and realize, okay, well this work is 1775 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,760 Speaker 1: not hard. It's just once you put your mind to 1776 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 1: it and knock it out, you'll be like, okay, you 1777 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,760 Speaker 1: have to take them the small lessons out of it. 1778 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 1: And then obviously we know that GPAs Like I say 1779 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 1: this to everybody, GPA is not a matter of how 1780 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,200 Speaker 1: smart you are, just about how discipline you are. Sure, 1781 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 1: once I got over that hump of like, okay, these 1782 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,280 Speaker 1: people really just think that I'm done well. I don't know. 1783 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,760 Speaker 1: This information really is like, look, no, we're setting you 1784 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 1: up for these lessons in life. And I think overall, 1785 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,200 Speaker 1: once I mastered that that lesson from it, um, I 1786 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,680 Speaker 1: was a better student in the classroom and in the 1787 01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,240 Speaker 1: football field too, So it helped out all right. So Love, 1788 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 1: He says that you're still coming into your own He 1789 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 1: says that you still have your best football ahead of you. 1790 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,040 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that and how do you 1791 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:07,840 Speaker 1: think you're going to get better here throughout the rest 1792 01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, I think the same thing I've been. 1793 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,799 Speaker 1: I'm a guy who I'm my worst own critic. I literally, 1794 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,680 Speaker 1: if you can say I had a good game, I 1795 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,479 Speaker 1: don't think I may have a good game just because 1796 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:18,840 Speaker 1: of maybe it's a couple of players in there that 1797 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I wasn't perfect on my technique. I 1798 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,840 Speaker 1: try to be perfectionist. This game is about trying to 1799 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,920 Speaker 1: be perfect, trying to find the next step to the 1800 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,400 Speaker 1: hands your game to where you're beating your opponent at 1801 01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,080 Speaker 1: the snap of the finger. So I think, overall, yeah, 1802 01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,439 Speaker 1: I'm definitely on that same boat as he is, just 1803 01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 1: because of the things I know I'm capable of, as 1804 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 1: far as it's getting healthier, making sure the body feels right, 1805 01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,559 Speaker 1: making sure my mind is right, you know, just making 1806 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,439 Speaker 1: sure technique everything is cleaned up. Today I can be 1807 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,840 Speaker 1: a more efficient player. Great stuff there from the man 1808 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 1: John Grenard. All right, we're gonna close it down with 1809 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,839 Speaker 1: our buddy Brandy. Cook's next right here in Texas to Access, 1810 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 1: to TOOXSS, to toss. We got one final segment of 1811 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,760 Speaker 1: this Wedesday issue of Texans All Access, and it's brought 1812 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,200 Speaker 1: to you by our good friends at Schlumberge. He sign 1813 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 1: up at Uston Texas dot com to take the Lumberge 1814 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,000 Speaker 1: Stats Challenge. Now a guy that has completely dominated the 1815 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,840 Speaker 1: stats and everything else is our own branding Cooks you 1816 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:12,160 Speaker 1: cut up with Deep. We used to watch practice and 1817 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer, who does the play by play, whenever he'd 1818 01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,120 Speaker 1: see you make a catch, he would say a bubble 1819 01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,160 Speaker 1: rap because he just did not want to see any 1820 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:20,280 Speaker 1: more of you. He's like, I don't want him to 1821 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:21,840 Speaker 1: get hurt, Just bubble wrap him and put them away. 1822 01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,080 Speaker 1: But you were out there every single day in camp, 1823 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,920 Speaker 1: and then I actually noticed, like a lot of times 1824 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 1: on drives and between plays you'd kind of come over 1825 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,680 Speaker 1: to the side, you look at the iPad, you'd be 1826 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,960 Speaker 1: talking to Tyrode. You guys would be just going over 1827 01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,360 Speaker 1: the meticulous details. And I always thought, it's just like 1828 01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:40,400 Speaker 1: one catch of one training camp practice of many days. 1829 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 1: Is that how you build that trust? I mean that's 1830 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,400 Speaker 1: is that why you do that on every single play? 1831 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,759 Speaker 1: You know, I think that's once time you get ahead 1832 01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,400 Speaker 1: of the game. Obviously you look at film after practice, 1833 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 1: but if you can sneak in a couple of reps 1834 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,720 Speaker 1: on film, you know during practice, that's always gonna be 1835 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 1: used because you could talk about it. It's just in 1836 01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 1: case it comes up, and practicing in that day you 1837 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 1: can get it fixed right then and there. You've played 1838 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,479 Speaker 1: with a lot of quarterbacks over the years, you know, 1839 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 1: what's what are some of your tricks for developing that chemistry? 1840 01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Because I've heard that sometimes quarterbacks and receivers they hang 1841 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,800 Speaker 1: out outside of football, they get on the same page, like, 1842 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 1: what are some of the things you can do? I 1843 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,679 Speaker 1: think my thing is, you know, throwing in the off season, 1844 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, with my quarterbacks back at the same time, 1845 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,559 Speaker 1: figuring out what they like and trying to mold my 1846 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: game to that because obviously the quarterbacks is making decisions. Yeah, 1847 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 1: you gotta be comfortable. So I gotta figure out what 1848 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,559 Speaker 1: my quarterback likes h and make sure I do that 1849 01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 1: and then at the end of the day, you know, 1850 01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,680 Speaker 1: put my signature on it as well. All right. So 1851 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,799 Speaker 1: David Culley says that you play like a really big receiver. 1852 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,680 Speaker 1: You play like a big receiver, you go for those 1853 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,799 Speaker 1: contested catches. How does one play bigger than their size. 1854 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, it's just 1855 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: all about heart and you know, for me, that's what 1856 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 1: it's always been. And then at the end of the day, 1857 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,960 Speaker 1: just leverage. You know, this game is about leverage. You know, 1858 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 1: you think about defensive tackles and offensive on If I 1859 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,160 Speaker 1: can get underneath the guy no matter how big I am, 1860 01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:57,880 Speaker 1: you know I got a chance. And so I'll take 1861 01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 1: that same type of mentality when I'm playing as a 1862 01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,960 Speaker 1: There you have it, big Thanks to Brandy Cook's dep Sinew, 1863 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:08,720 Speaker 1: John Grenard, Chris Connolly, Drudordy, Vante Leitch, Nicks, Saria, Mark 1864 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,559 Speaker 1: Vandimir and all of you for listening. Thank you so much. 1865 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time, and as always, go Texans,