WEBVTT - No More Speed Bumps 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:18.480 Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show. Hi, everybody, 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.680 Welcome to the Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.599 Todd Solecki. It is Wednesday, July tenth, twenty twenty four. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.560 We thought we would get together, fellows, because Bryce Harper 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.720 came back last night, Kyle Schwarber came back last night. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.320 Seemed like a good time to get together and hash 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:39.240 things out. Kyle Schwarber said before the game, hopefully it's 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.040 the last little speed bump that we hit. And then 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.080 in the fifth inning, Zach Wheeler leaves with a back issue, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:49.280 and then Johann Rojas gets plunked on the right forearm 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.400 in the seventh inning. Both of those guys leave the game. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:54.720 Both of them talked after the game. Both of them 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.960 seem to think that they will be okay. But let's 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.760 start with the I don't know if he can say 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.440 bad news, but Zach Wheeler leaves the game in the 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.480 fifth inning with what the Phillies have called left lower 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.559 back tightness. Concerned. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.800 Well, one of the things that made last night great. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:20.840 I know there were the two injuries that caused a 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:22.920 little bit of concern. I think very minor concern. I 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.040 don't think either were a big concern anyway. The atmosphere 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.720 was great. Forty three thousand, another sellout and Wheeler comes 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:33.680 right out ninety seven, ninety seven, ninety eight, strikes out 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.240 maybe the best player in baseball in Otani, and the 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.480 place grows crazy. I just thought Wheeler came out with 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.759 a chip on his shoulder, and I thought he came 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.840 out looking to make a statement against the shoe hey 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.480 O'tani and certainly did it. And he kind of like 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.559 the lit the wick on the M eighty that brought 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:54.440 that ballpark alive. But to your point, you could kind 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.360 of see him lose his release point in that in 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.960 that was it the fifth inning, and uh, you know, 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:03.880 he was up and into righties, was up and a 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.320 way to lefties, and you know, kind of something that 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.040 was up. Then you see sar AAnthony get up in 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:10.480 the bullpen and he's out of there. You don't know 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.920 if they're just conserving pitches with a big lead, and 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.160 he uh, you know, he lets on a little lower 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.760 back tightness and it's been bothered him a couple of starts, 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.239 but he said he intends to make his next But 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.960 I'm not real concerned. But if they opted to keep 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.480 him on a tight LEAs Sunday, a short lease Sunday, 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.639 or even opted to skip him, he doesn't think that's 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:34.480 gonna happen. I would be fine with it because it 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.919 has bothered him just a little bit these last couple starts. 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.359 But it's Sack Wheeler. He's hugely important to what you're 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.320 gonna do the rest of the way, hugely important to 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.800 you know, he's gonna get the ball game one, uh 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.079 in October. He's gonna probably get to you know, get 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.360 the ball maybe game one of every series if they 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.120 can line it up the right way. Such an important piece. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.600 You want him one hundred percent healthy, not ninety nine 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.000 point nine nine nine. You want them one hundred percent. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.000 So whatever it takes to get him there, I think 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.440 they need to look at it. But I'm sure a 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.320 little bit of concern, but not not any worry, right, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:09.079 I agree. 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.400 Yeah, I'm not uh, I'm not like the panic boy, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.440 but but I do what concerns me a little bit. 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.200 I've learned from Pat Gillick. There are two things that 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.880 sort of bothered me a little bit with with pictures. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:28.400 It's their back obviously, their shoulders. But beyond that, with athletes, 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:33.480 it's backs because they can be really tricky, you know, 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.040 becomes a little bit of concern. A guy like Bryce Harper, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.600 he has to manage his back, you know. Cole Hamil's 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.880 had to manage his back, you know, for for for 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.080 years and years and years, did a really good job 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.400 of that. So they can be tricky and they can 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.560 sort of pop up any time, and so that's a 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.160 little bit of a concern for me, and I think 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:58.320 that I think it was really, uh, cautionary. It was 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.880 a cautionary move for them to get him out of 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.440 the game. They I mean, if it was a game 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.960 on the line that was super important, he probably would 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.160 have stayed in there and gutted it out, I would think. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.839 But the fact that he did mention it to them 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.240 and he did feel like he got tweaked, that concerns 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.280 me a little bit. That said, I don't think it's 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.839 a big deal. It just has to be managed. And 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.800 it will be very curious to see if he actually 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.880 pitches on Sunday said he probably will and hopes he will, 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.880 but who knows. Kind of depends on you know. I 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.400 think the rest of these next maybe five games to 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.799 see kind of where they stand as they move forward. 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.560 If they continue to play decent baseball, they win a 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.080 couple of games, they win this series in LA, then 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:49.040 they might say, you know what, Skippy will just maybe'll 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.880 skip him and let him have his full rest and 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.520 start him fresh coming back from the All Star break. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:59.719 I would offer you talk about backs and being tricky. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.680 I don't for some wisdom that the philosopher Lenny Dykster 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.400 wants shared. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.920 And he is a philosopher and he. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.080 Had a bad back. He said, back's a tricky dude 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:12.839 because they're connected to everything. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.120 And he's right, it's so right. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:21.359 You know, he's he is indeed genius. I mean. The 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.200 other thing they can do, guys, is coming out of 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.599 the break is if they feel like they need an 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.440 extra day with him or two, you could you could 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.599 push him back. You know, you have him start on 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.360 Sunday coming out of the break. You gave him start 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.360 Monday coming out of the break in Minnesota if you 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:33.880 felt like you needed more time. So they have some 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.680 wiggle room there to keep him safe. But but Jim, 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.159 you were right. That Otani at bat in the first inning, 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.560 that was really cool. That was the sixth hardest pitch 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.880 that strikeout pitch to Otani, So he definitely reared back 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:47.280 and gave him a little bit. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.520 Yeah, there's no question in my mind that that I 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.040 do believe that that Zach Wheeler has a little bit 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.280 of a chip on his shoulder because he didn't get 0:05:56.279 --> 0:06:01.039 the cy Young. He should have won one and he 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.880 got screwed. There there's no question in my mind that 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.080 he got screwed. He should have been the cy Young 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:12.240 Award winner hands down. I think that, you know, he's 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:16.159 one of those guys that sort of feel semi disrespected. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.400 I don't think. I think people now understand who he 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.800 is and how he can what kind of impact he 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.440 has as a pitcher. I think that if I was 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.760 going to take one picture to pitch a baseball game 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.600 right now, it's a little bit like Kurt Schilling back 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.560 in his when he was one of the best pitchers 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.720 in baseball. I would take that man and put him 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.279 on them out. And just because I've seen what he's 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.359 done under those circumstances, I know what his demeanors like. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.920 I mean, I just love the way he goes about it, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.320 and I have a great deal of respect for him 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:52.640 as he's built his as he's matured as a pitcher 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.800 now over the years instead of being a thrower. And 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.960 I think it started at the end of twenty eighteen. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.599 I've said it a million times. That second half of 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.200 that season he was remarkable, and I think it put 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.000 him on this path. And I do think that he 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.080 wanted to show the world and set the tone like, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.840 hey man, here I am, here, I am, and here 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.760 are the Phillies, and I'm setting the tone, and you know, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.200 the Phillies just took it from there. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.200 I also think, you know, he loves being healthy. Early 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.400 in his career, he was a number six pick in 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.239 the country, he was a huge draft pick, first rounder 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.000 by the Giants. Ends up with the Mets, loaded with potential. 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.920 I remember they were like dubbing it the billion dollar 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:38.280 rotation up in New York with all those guys Gron Wheeler, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:45.640 Matt Harvey and Matts. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.880 And it should have been it should have been just electric. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.160 It really just you can't do what you you know 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.320 you need to do when you when you're not healthy. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.920 I think he loves the fact that he's healthy and 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:58.680 he can be that that guy. Finally, he pitches with edge. 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.520 He's got a little ornery to him. You know, you 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.040 got you gotta love that edge. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.960 He's got a little Yeah, he's definitely salted. You know 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.360 what's funny is that Jeff Frankcour when he was on 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.040 last week, said if I have to pick one pitcher 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.960 in all Major League Baseball, I'm picking to start a game. 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.040 I'm picking Zack Wheeler. I know, I was watching MLB 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.280 Network the other day and they had some panel on 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.520 saying we had to pick one guy to start a 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.360 big game, I'm picking Zack Wheeler. So nationally he's getting 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.800 that respect. But it is cool that he's still got 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.000 that little chip on his shoulder of I want to 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.079 win a cy Young I don't maybe you know I'm 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.480 using that as fuel still. And again I'm going to 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:40.479 pretend to perceive that I'm being disrespected or not acknowledged 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.720 as much as I should be acknowledged. But I just 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.600 want to mention this and then we'll we'll move on. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:50.679 So if the Wheeler thing is especially important because Tyler 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.000 Phillips is now going to start on Saturday against the 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.600 A's Michael Mercato, Robert Thompson explained that Brian Kaplan, their 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.839 assistant pitching coach, pitcher director of pitching development in the 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.760 mind leagues, they were already going to move Mercado back 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.560 into the bullpen and Triple A if he had not 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.520 been brought up, so they're going to make so they're 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.240 going to start that transition now. Tyler Phillips is going 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:13.480 to start on Saturday. So with Taiwan Walker on the 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.959 injured list, with Spencer Turnbull on the injured list, now 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.719 you start really getting into the depths of your your 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.040 minor league pitching depth and in Triple A right now, 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:25.360 your next man up probably be Kobe Allard who's on 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.160 the forty men, Max Castillo who just came back. He's 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.720 pitched okay since he came back from from clear Water, 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.560 and Davy Buchanan who's now in the forty men. Mickabele, 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.120 as we know we've talked about it, has not had 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.040 a good year. It's not really an option at this point. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.880 So that's another reason why you want to keep Zach 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.880 Wheeler healthy because you don't want to keep dipping into 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.800 that dipping into that starting pitching depth. So something to 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.040 keep an eye on going forward. If Zach doesn't start 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.280 on Saturday. This back issue keeps flaring up. 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.800 So they're looking to improve the bullpen. It looks like 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.920 I think we all think they will do something in 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:04.400 the bullpen at the deadline. They're throwing Mercado's name in 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.760 there as a potential option for bullpen help in the 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.520 second half. That's what it appears to be. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.040 Yeah, yeah, I think there's any question about that. And also, 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.040 you know, all you got to do is look at 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.640 the Los Angeles Dodgers to talk about, you know, pitching 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.440 depth and where they stand, because that's really a separator 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.880 I believe between the Phillies and the Dodgers. Now, the Dodgers, 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.080 I think as a whole offensively, at least with the 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:35.000 other guys, when Harper was out and Schwarber was out, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.880 JT's out, I think the Los Angeles Dodgers had the 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.079 edge offensively. I do think that those guys back it 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.600 sort of even things out. Maybe the Phillies are even 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.760 a little bit better. I think the rankings sort of 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.719 proved that out right now, that the Dodgers are a 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.320 little bit better offensively at this very moment. But I 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.080 think that will change as those guys get healthier and 0:10:55.240 --> 0:11:00.160 come back and start getting into their legs again. Think 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.360 they're the La Dodgers bullpens just a touch better than 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:08.680 than than the Phillies right now, not much, but pretty 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.760 pretty much even. But the real separator is the Phillies 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.840 over the Dodgers as far as the rotation is concerned, 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.160 and the Dodgers have a real issue there. I mean, 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.120 the kid who's gonna throw tonight in Stone, he's really 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.719 stepped forward and he's pitching very, very well. He's a 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.480 little bit like Christopher Sanchez in that regard. For the Phillies, 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.800 it's gonna be a great match up today. But but 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:31.920 you started looking at the guys. You know, the kid 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.160 that through yesterday had a great year last year, but 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.240 he's bouncing back from injury. Uh, they lost your eyes 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:44.160 because he did his thing. They don't have Walker Bueller. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.679 He's really kind of struggling to get back off of 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:49.679 Tommy John spent a couple of years now, it hasn't 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.880 really become the guy I think he's now. He's got 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.079 some kind of shoulder thing or something. You know, they 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:59.600 don't they don't have young Moi though he got him down, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.840 they got her Shaw down. Well, you started. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.480 Lost yesterday, they lost class now he's not going to 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.719 pitch on Thursday. Strike out leader in the league. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.840 Right, So you start and Glass now is a guy 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:10.520 that you know, they put a lot of money into him, 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.160 but the man hadn't pitched more than one hundred and 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.560 twenty five innings in his whole career before they gave 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.440 him that big number. So listen, they have talent, but 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.680 they also have to stay healthy. And that's why I 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.920 think it's so important to have pitching depth number one, 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.760 and also to really take care of your starters because 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:33.360 they're the most important part, especially when you get down 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:38.119 to the playoffs. You need people who can win baseball 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.400 games and keep your ball your ball club in the game. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.360 And you know, the Phillies have some really really good 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.760 ones in Suarez and Nola and Wheeler, and you don't 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.839 the guys who've done it, you know, and you got 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.400 to keep those guys healthy. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.720 Before the game, Bryce Harper comes out and talks and Ruben, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.199 I don't know if you caught this. So Bryce is 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.960 out there and says, yeah, I feel fine, but I'm not. 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:04.240 I'm not. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.000 I'm gonna play it safe. I'm playing I'm playing it safe. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.120 And then I think it was Matt Gelb said, well, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:11.600 what do you mean by play it safe. He's like, 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.720 you know, not throwing the cloak on, not throwing the 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.320 cloak on, not going to be like, you're not going 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.320 to be your superhero whoever, your caped Crusader of Choices, 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.520 Superman or Batman or whatever. He's not going to do that. 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.000 I think maybe he was referring to the invisible cloak. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:27.599 Did he know, oh that that could be. 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:28.920 Yeah, maybe that's what that is. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:30.120 Maybe that's what that is. 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:35.760 Yeah. But then so then in the first inning, he 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.959 hits this line drive shot to Freddy Freeman. Freddy misses it, 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.400 clangs off his glove, and Bryce books it down the line. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:48.240 That's the fastest clocked time he has had all season. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.760 That is the fastest sprint speed he has had since 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.040 July fifteenth of twenty twenty three, twenty nine point one 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:59.559 feet per second. So I guess he put the cloak 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.160 on there that one time. I bet you just knew 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:06.640 that that's impossible for him. He's he just can't. If 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.760 the moment arises he thinks he can beat out of play, 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.440 he's gonna do it. It's tough for him to dial 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:13.480 it back one hundred percent. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.920 I wonder what he doesn't he doesn't do he does 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.760 not dial it back. I mean that that's that's the danger, 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.560 and that's why you have to be careful. Like when 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.520 he gets on the field, he's going to go if 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.080 he needs to stretch a single into or double, or 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.200 he needs to you know, die for a ground ball 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.480 or whatever it is. I mean, he's instinctively going to 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.960 do that. It's tough to have players back off. It's 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.640 like taking your nine iron and saying, okay, listen, I 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.760 can hit this one hundred and forty yards, but it's 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.040 one hundred and thirty yards shot, and I'm going to 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:46.520 back off a little bit, and then you end up 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.400 shanking it, you know, to the other to the other fairway. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.560 I think it's really I think it's that's why it's 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.520 so important. And Rob Thompson talked about a little bit 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.840 last night. You know that's why that's why you gotta be 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.280 careful because when they get on the field. I think 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.960 a guy like Trey Turner may may not And you 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.480 saw him when he was first came back. He was 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.600 sort of cruising around the base paths. But a guy 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.280 like Bryce Harper is a little bit like Aaron Rowan 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.080 or you know, they're I don't know how any other 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:18.920 way to say it. They're sort of balls out when 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.960 it's time to be balls out, and so they're going 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:25.560 to go play. And and so that's why you have 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.800 to be pretty careful about certain guys when they when 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.080 they decide that they're ready to go. 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:35.280 Well, the explosion of that sprint confirmed he's one hundred 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:36.920 percent and there was a lot of hand ring. Oh, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.040 they're bringing him back too early. I if I saw 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:41.840 him on the field or he was activated, I knew 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.320 he was one hundred percent healthy. Because there is no 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:50.320 way Bryce Harper, Rob Thompson, Dave Nebraski, Sam Falls, Paul Bokheit, 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.640 Steve Collin, the Phillies Baseball offs people and their medical people. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.320 We're going to sign off on that, including Bryce if 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.640 he was If he was not, one had time on 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.800 their side and the standings on their side. If he 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.440 needed another day or two, they were going to give 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.080 it to him. But like you said the other day, Todd, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:12.880 he slid aggressively into home play in Atlanta during his 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.040 practice session the other day during a workout. I mean, 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.760 come on, you know, he the guy is really good 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.680 at messaging. I mean that was kind of his little 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.720 message to everybody that I am healthy, I am ready. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.440 Death, no debt, no doubt. Hey, can we talk a 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.600 little bit about the bottom of the lineup yesterday? And 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.640 and Raffi Marshaan because I think that he. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.120 Is seven hits by he's. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.600 Pushing well, those guys seven for nine with like seven 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.520 runs scored or something like that. But yeah, and I 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.080 love the depth that it's created by having those guys 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.000 back in the lineup. There's no question about that. But 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.560 the thing that really makes me sort of wonder what's 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.600 what the next step is is Rafael Mashan As far 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.720 as the short as far as the catching situation is concerned, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.200 is JT's coming back. And JT may be coming back 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.600 for the next series. I think he's really close. They 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.479 may push him to the to the end of it. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.040 I know they're talked. That's what they've talked about and 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.880 waiting for the All Star Game and that this one 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:17.879 of the reasons they might do that is because Marshawn's 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.200 played so well. But the question is who gets sent out? 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:26.080 Because I think maybe we talked about this, Stubbs does 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.080 have an option left and I didn't realize that he did. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:33.840 And so it's gonna be one of those balancing acts 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.119 I think, you know, do you take the best player, 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.040 because right now I think the best players are off 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.040 al Marshawn. If you look at the totality of what 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:47.080 he brings to the table, and or do you really 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:51.359 worry about it changing the clubhouse in some way, shape 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.600 or form, because he's a big part, you know, Stubbs 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:59.280 is a very big part of that clubhouse. It's going 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.959 to be an interesting It's a great problem to have, 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.480 but it will be interesting to see how it goes well. 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.920 You know, I think the variables are when JT comes back, 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.000 I mean, you know, are you going to cut back 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.800 on his time? Would marsh on? Would the backup be 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.879 getting more time? Or is it going to be, you know, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.560 business as usual for JT's going to catch you know, 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.159 the vast majority, and the backup is going to get 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.480 maybe a day day game after a night game. I 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.240 and we said this, I said this to I lean 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:33.199 towards sending him to Triple A. Who if JT has 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.400 to go down again for ten days or a couple 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.960 of weeks, I'm bringing march On back, and I'm installing 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.080 him as the regular or the bulk of the playing 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:43.840 time guy, and I want to keep him sharp and 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.440 I want to keep him ready. And I'm telling him 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.280 that that you know, you you're our number one backup catcher, 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.159 but you just happen to be sixty miles up the 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.359 road staying sharp. And I do think Stubbs has a 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.080 real benefit in the clubhouse. So you know, that's the 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.720 way I would go right now. But all bets are off. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.400 If they're going to really ease jt in and he's 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.200 only going to catch maybe fifty percent of the time 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.800 for two weeks or three weeks, at that point, I'm 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:13.200 probably going to keep march On. And they haven't revealed 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.359 their plan, nor would they. They keep that stuff really 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.240 close to the vest. But you're right, Marchrono was so impressive, 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.520 Rubert Todd. He I mean, he attacked two balls, He 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.160 pulled two balls down down the right field line where 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.520 he just attacked the ball, and that just shows so 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.720 much confidence. And then there was another time he kind 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.919 of fills one down the left field line. He's on 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.080 base all night, He's using the whole field. You know, 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.639 he's catching a really good game with Zach Wheeler, and 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:43.919 it appears it's not easy to win Zach Wheeler's trust, 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:45.600 but it appears he has. 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:46.280 Yeah, he has. 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.040 It was Garrett Stubbs that since the end of May 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.880 he's batt in two seventy six. I know he's really 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:56.520 struggled earlier this season. So if they do bring JT 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.920 back and he does get the bulk of the playing town, 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.240 I also think they would keep Stubbs, send Marshan down, 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.040 and Rob is great at that messaging. He told Cody 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.320 Clemens the same thing. He had a great message to 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.080 Cody Clemens and why they sent him down as opposed 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.879 to maybe keeping him up and having some easily listen, 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:15.440 not enough playing time for you. We want you to go 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.399 down there. You're going to play outfield every three or 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.800 four days or every four day or four days a 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.240 week and just really try to pump him up and 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.000 make him feel good and making him feel like he's 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:25.480 going to come back. I feel like, you know, Rob, 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.479 if they do send Marshan down, he would give him 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.200 a similar message where it's like, listen, you're our guy, 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.159 don't worry, and you'll be back at some point. If 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.080