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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury,

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Speaker 1: Todd Solecki. It is Wednesday, July tenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: We thought we would get together, fellows, because Bryce Harper

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Speaker 1: came back last night, Kyle Schwarber came back last night.

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Speaker 1: Seemed like a good time to get together and hash

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Speaker 1: things out. Kyle Schwarber said before the game, hopefully it's

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Speaker 1: the last little speed bump that we hit. And then

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Speaker 1: in the fifth inning, Zach Wheeler leaves with a back issue,

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Speaker 1: and then Johann Rojas gets plunked on the right forearm

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Speaker 1: in the seventh inning. Both of those guys leave the game.

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Speaker 1: Both of them talked after the game. Both of them

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Speaker 1: seem to think that they will be okay. But let's

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Speaker 1: start with the I don't know if he can say

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Speaker 1: bad news, but Zach Wheeler leaves the game in the

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Speaker 1: fifth inning with what the Phillies have called left lower

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Speaker 1: back tightness. Concerned.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that made last night great.

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Speaker 2: I know there were the two injuries that caused a

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Speaker 2: little bit of concern. I think very minor concern. I

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Speaker 2: don't think either were a big concern anyway. The atmosphere

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Speaker 2: was great. Forty three thousand, another sellout and Wheeler comes

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Speaker 2: right out ninety seven, ninety seven, ninety eight, strikes out

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Speaker 2: maybe the best player in baseball in Otani, and the

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Speaker 2: place grows crazy. I just thought Wheeler came out with

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Speaker 2: a chip on his shoulder, and I thought he came

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Speaker 2: out looking to make a statement against the shoe hey

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Speaker 2: O'tani and certainly did it. And he kind of like

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Speaker 2: the lit the wick on the M eighty that brought

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Speaker 2: that ballpark alive. But to your point, you could kind

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Speaker 2: of see him lose his release point in that in

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Speaker 2: that was it the fifth inning, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: he was up and into righties, was up and a

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Speaker 2: was up. Then you see sar AAnthony get up in

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Speaker 2: the bullpen and he's out of there. You don't know

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Speaker 2: if they're just conserving pitches with a big lead, and

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Speaker 2: he uh, you know, he lets on a little lower

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Speaker 2: back tightness and it's been bothered him a couple of starts,

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Speaker 2: but he said he intends to make his next But

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Speaker 2: I'm not real concerned. But if they opted to keep

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Speaker 2: him on a tight LEAs Sunday, a short lease Sunday,

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Speaker 2: or even opted to skip him, he doesn't think that's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen. I would be fine with it because it

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Speaker 2: has bothered him just a little bit these last couple starts.

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Speaker 2: But it's Sack Wheeler. He's hugely important to what you're

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Speaker 2: gonna do the rest of the way, hugely important to

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Speaker 2: you know, he's gonna get the ball game one, uh

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Speaker 2: in October. He's gonna probably get to you know, get

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Speaker 2: the ball maybe game one of every series if they

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Speaker 2: can line it up the right way. Such an important piece.

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Speaker 2: You want him one hundred percent healthy, not ninety nine

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Speaker 2: point nine nine nine. You want them one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: So whatever it takes to get him there, I think

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Speaker 2: they need to look at it. But I'm sure a

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Speaker 2: little bit of concern, but not not any worry, right,

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not uh, I'm not like the panic boy,

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Speaker 3: but but I do what concerns me a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I've learned from Pat Gillick. There are two things that

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Speaker 3: sort of bothered me a little bit with with pictures.

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Speaker 3: It's their back obviously, their shoulders. But beyond that, with athletes,

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Speaker 3: it's backs because they can be really tricky, you know,

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Speaker 3: becomes a little bit of concern. A guy like Bryce Harper,

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Speaker 3: he has to manage his back, you know. Cole Hamil's

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Speaker 3: had to manage his back, you know, for for for

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Speaker 3: of that. So they can be tricky and they can

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Speaker 3: that I think it was really, uh, cautionary. It was

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Speaker 3: a cautionary move for them to get him out of

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Speaker 3: the game. They I mean, if it was a game

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Speaker 3: on the line that was super important, he probably would

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Speaker 3: have stayed in there and gutted it out, I would think.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that he did mention it to them

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Speaker 3: and he did feel like he got tweaked, that concerns

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Speaker 3: me a little bit. That said, I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: a big deal. It just has to be managed. And

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Speaker 3: it will be very curious to see if he actually

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Speaker 3: but who knows. Kind of depends on you know. I

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Speaker 3: think the rest of these next maybe five games to

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Speaker 3: If they continue to play decent baseball, they win a

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Speaker 3: they might say, you know what, Skippy will just maybe'll

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Speaker 3: skip him and let him have his full rest and

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Speaker 3: start him fresh coming back from the All Star break.

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Speaker 2: I would offer you talk about backs and being tricky.

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Speaker 2: I don't for some wisdom that the philosopher Lenny Dykster

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Speaker 2: wants shared.

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Speaker 3: And he is a philosopher and he.

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Speaker 2: Had a bad back. He said, back's a tricky dude

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Speaker 3: And he's right, it's so right.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's he is indeed genius. I mean. The

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Speaker 1: other thing they can do, guys, is coming out of

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Speaker 1: extra day with him or two, you could you could

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Speaker 1: push him back. You know, you have him start on

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Speaker 1: felt like you needed more time. So they have some

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Speaker 1: wiggle room there to keep him safe. But but Jim,

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Speaker 1: you were right. That Otani at bat in the first inning,

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Speaker 1: that was really cool. That was the sixth hardest pitch

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question in my mind that that I

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Speaker 3: do believe that that Zach Wheeler has a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a chip on his shoulder because he didn't get

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Speaker 3: the cy Young. He should have won one and he

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Speaker 3: got screwed. There there's no question in my mind that

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Speaker 3: he got screwed. He should have been the cy Young

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Speaker 3: Award winner hands down. I think that, you know, he's

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Speaker 3: one of those guys that sort of feel semi disrespected.

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I think people now understand who he

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Speaker 3: right now, it's a little bit like Kurt Schilling back

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Speaker 3: in his when he was one of the best pitchers

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Speaker 3: in baseball. I would take that man and put him

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Speaker 3: on them out. And just because I've seen what he's

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Speaker 3: done under those circumstances, I know what his demeanors like.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just love the way he goes about it,

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Speaker 3: as he's built his as he's matured as a pitcher

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Speaker 3: now over the years instead of being a thrower. And

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Speaker 3: I think it started at the end of twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I've said it a million times. That second half of

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Speaker 3: wanted to show the world and set the tone like,

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Speaker 3: hey man, here I am, here, I am, and here

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Speaker 3: are the Phillies, and I'm setting the tone, and you know,

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Speaker 3: the Phillies just took it from there.

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Speaker 2: I also think, you know, he loves being healthy. Early

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Speaker 2: in his career, he was a number six pick in

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Speaker 2: I remember they were like dubbing it the billion dollar

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Speaker 3: And it should have been it should have been just electric.

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Speaker 2: It really just you can't do what you you know

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Speaker 2: I think he loves the fact that he's healthy and

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Speaker 2: he can be that that guy. Finally, he pitches with edge.

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Speaker 2: He's got a little ornery to him. You know, you

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Speaker 1: He's got a little Yeah, he's definitely salted. You know

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Speaker 1: what's funny is that Jeff Frankcour when he was on

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Speaker 1: last week, said if I have to pick one pitcher

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Speaker 1: I'm picking Zack Wheeler. I know, I was watching MLB

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Speaker 1: that respect. But it is cool that he's still got

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Speaker 1: that little chip on his shoulder of I want to

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Speaker 1: win a cy Young I don't maybe you know I'm

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Speaker 1: using that as fuel still. And again I'm going to

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Speaker 1: pretend to perceive that I'm being disrespected or not acknowledged

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Speaker 1: as much as I should be acknowledged. But I just

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Speaker 1: So if the Wheeler thing is especially important because Tyler

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Speaker 1: A's Michael Mercato, Robert Thompson explained that Brian Kaplan, their

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Speaker 1: mind leagues, they were already going to move Mercado back

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Speaker 1: minor league pitching depth and in Triple A right now,

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Speaker 1: So that's another reason why you want to keep Zach

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Speaker 1: that dipping into that starting pitching depth. So something to

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Speaker 2: So they're looking to improve the bullpen. It looks like

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Speaker 2: I think we all think they will do something in

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Speaker 2: the bullpen at the deadline. They're throwing Mercado's name in

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Speaker 2: there as a potential option for bullpen help in the

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Speaker 2: second half. That's what it appears to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think there's any question about that. And also,

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Speaker 3: you know, all you got to do is look at

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Speaker 3: I believe between the Phillies and the Dodgers. Now, the Dodgers,

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Speaker 3: I think as a whole offensively, at least with the

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Speaker 3: sort of even things out. Maybe the Phillies are even

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Speaker 3: a little bit better. I think the rankings sort of

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Speaker 3: proved that out right now, that the Dodgers are a

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Speaker 3: come back and start getting into their legs again. Think

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Speaker 3: pretty much even. But the real separator is the Phillies

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Speaker 2: Well, the explosion of that sprint confirmed he's one hundred

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Speaker 3: Pushing well, those guys seven for nine with like seven

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Speaker 2: Just wait until the end of the All Star ring.

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Speaker 2: He's too important. Let him really get his feeter. It's

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Speaker 2: I think. I think he's two days shy of a month.

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Speaker 2: So if he goes to the end of the All

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Speaker 1: We didn't really get into Kyle. Kyle Schwarber had a

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Speaker 1: great game to last night, getting him back in the

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Speaker 1: Grand Slam for Trade Turner. It's you know, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: You get Schwarbe back and Harper back. That lineup looks

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Speaker 2: He tried to he tried to take Kiki Hernandez to

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I don't think Schreber was too happy that he

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Speaker 1: popped up there. He's telling you he missed he missed one,

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Speaker 3: No, but he got a huge two out, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and base it. And and that's the beauty of what

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Speaker 3: Kyle Schwarber. It's a perfect example instead of a microcosm

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Speaker 3: of this season because he's not necessarily trying to drive

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Speaker 3: And that was a perfect example. He just drove that

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Speaker 3: field and right through the infield.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into this maybe some other time, but sounds

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Speaker 1: like the rehab assignment is dead.

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Speaker 3: No doornail, it's.

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Speaker 1: Deader than a doornail. If you're a veteran, was some

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Speaker 1: big league time, I I ain't gone on. No rehab

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Speaker 1: assignment ain't happening.

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Speaker 3: They could try to, They could try to simulate as

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Speaker 3: much as possible that those boys aren't going down there.

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Speaker 3: They're not buying any steak dinners for the boys anymore.

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Speaker 1: They almost should just send some. They almost should despuy

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Speaker 1: a spread for old times, like just say, I'm not

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Speaker 1: down there, guys, but I am thinking of you, thinking of.

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Speaker 3: Your wedding and uh, you know in wedding and Lehigh Valley. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll take care of you guys, exactly. Well, a couple

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Speaker 3: of big steak dinners.

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Speaker 1: Sent with love. Trey Turner, Kyle Schwore, Brett Starber. You know,

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Speaker 1: so I want to wrap this up. This episode is

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Speaker 3: And now I'm wondering.

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Speaker 1: When are we going to.

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Speaker 3: Happily get on board.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, we can't miss.

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Speaker 1: Let's can't miss, can't miss? All right, guys, Well, thanks

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Speaker 1: a lot. That was fun. We will be back again

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Speaker 1: later this week to wrap up the Dodger series and

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Speaker 1: preview this city series, this former city series as Phillies.

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